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- 1:35Speaker 1: And now, from April twenty six, nineteen fifty one, here
- 1:40Speaker 1: is the Big Saint.
- 1:50Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true. Under
- 1:53Speaker 2: the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
- 2:04Speaker 2: a detective sergeant. You're assigned to auto theft detail, A
- 2:08Speaker 2: well organized ring of car thieves begins operations in your sitting.
- 2:13Speaker 2: It's one of the most puzzling cases you've ever encountered.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Your job break it.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Drag met the document a drama of an actual crime.
- 2:31Speaker 3: While the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los
- 2:33Speaker 3: Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on
- 2:37Speaker 3: the side of the law through an actual case transcribed
- 2:39Speaker 3: from official police files, from beginning to end, from crime
- 2:44Speaker 3: to punishment. Dragnet is the story of your police force
- 2:47Speaker 3: in action.
- 2:52Speaker 4: It was Monday, Mail eleventh. It was fair in Los Angeles.
- 2:56Speaker 4: We were working a day watch out of auto theft detail.
- 2:58Speaker 4: My partner's Ben ramerils Captain Stilson, my name is Friday.
- 3:02Speaker 4: Was eight thirty five am when I got to Room forty,
- 3:05Speaker 4: Auto Theft Division Captain's office.
- 3:07Speaker 5: Morning Friday, Rory, Ahi, Joe, Ben, Let's sit down, thank you.
- 3:12Speaker 5: I was just telling Ramara here and briefing all the
- 3:14Speaker 5: men in the bureau on this thing. That's the reason
- 3:16Speaker 5: I called you two in. Yeah, I get some figures here.
- 3:18Speaker 5: I want to go over with you acause you know
- 3:22Speaker 5: all the percentage of all auto theft recoveries is ninety
- 3:24Speaker 5: six to ninety eight percent on the average, that's normally. Yeah,
- 3:27Speaker 5: and checking the monthly averages the past four months, that
- 3:29Speaker 5: percentages dropped to the low eighties. Quite a drum corner
- 3:33Speaker 5: pocket thinks so too. They want some action on it.
- 3:35Speaker 6: Well, we've been working on it.
- 3:36Speaker 5: Absolutely no pattern to the theft, time, location, the method makes
- 3:40Speaker 5: it impossible to stake out on it. Yeah, those are
- 3:42Speaker 5: some of the reasons our percentage is taking such a dive.
- 3:45Speaker 5: I know the problems, we all do, but we got
- 3:46Speaker 5: to break this thing soon.
- 3:48Speaker 4: A lot of figures were dealing with a well organized bunch.
- 3:50Speaker 4: They know what they're doing.
- 3:52Speaker 5: And cross checking all the reports. It seems to boil
- 3:54Speaker 5: down to this. In general here is that all the
- 3:56Speaker 5: outstanding thefts are GM cars, Cads, Ponty Acts, Chevy, these oldsmobiles,
- 4:01Speaker 5: all late models, all seem to be in good condition,
- 4:03Speaker 5: low mileage cars.
- 4:05Speaker 4: In addition to the regular broadcast and teletypes, we got
- 4:07Speaker 4: out a special bullet.
- 4:08Speaker 5: Ones that's right, all the that'ts realisted license, make, model,
- 4:12Speaker 5: and color been sent to all major cities and border
- 4:14Speaker 5: patrol stations.
- 4:15Speaker 6: Nothing so far.
- 4:16Speaker 5: I was checking through the salvage reports, salvage buys. Do
- 4:19Speaker 5: you have the last two months escape in March and April? Yeah,
- 4:22Speaker 5: right here. I know it's the same thing that I've
- 4:24Speaker 5: fit down on San Peterro Street.
- 4:26Speaker 6: Yeah, let me see.
- 4:29Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this is a composite on the reports for
- 4:32Speaker 5: the past two months.
- 4:33Speaker 6: That's right.
- 4:34Speaker 5: This one here Herman Salvage twenty seven to sixteen West
- 4:37Speaker 5: San Pedro. They seem to deal a little heavy on
- 4:40Speaker 5: General Motors card, don't they. Yeah, they do have been
- 4:42Speaker 5: watching the buyers on this place for the past few weeks.
- 4:44Speaker 4: Now.
- 4:44Speaker 6: I wanted to make sure it wasn't coincidence.
- 4:46Speaker 4: It looks like a good place to run down anyway,
- 4:48Speaker 4: you too want to check it out, all right?
- 4:49Speaker 6: Fine, twenty seven to sixteen West San Pedro. That's it.
- 4:52Speaker 6: If it appears to be okay, it never been out
- 4:54Speaker 6: of line.
- 4:55Speaker 5: Seems funny they should deal with the top AVY and
- 4:57Speaker 5: GM cars, doesn't it right when our recovery percentage takes
- 5:00Speaker 5: a diet?
- 5:00Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 5:01Speaker 5: Do you have the last salvage report there, Kevin? Yeah,
- 5:03Speaker 5: the last week here you are, thank you.
- 5:10Speaker 4: Yeah, here's one for Herman's nineteen forty nine Cadillac. A
- 5:15Speaker 4: little further down Herman's again forty seven. Ole's Yeah, there's
- 5:21Speaker 4: five GM buys on the list. Herman got four out
- 5:25Speaker 4: of five of them.
- 5:25Speaker 6: Let's find out why.
- 5:32Speaker 4: From the time an automobile is first manufactured and sold
- 5:36Speaker 4: a constant and the complete record is maintained on that automobile.
- 5:39Speaker 4: His certificate of ownership the pink slip in the state
- 5:41Speaker 4: of California. His certificate of registration a white slip. These
- 5:45Speaker 4: two slips of paper contained the information necessary for the
- 5:48Speaker 4: positive identification of your car. Fact that every motorist knows.
- 5:53Speaker 4: There are many agencies that work for the protection and
- 5:55Speaker 4: security of your automobile. One of these is the National
- 5:58Speaker 4: Auto Theft Bureau of nationwide clearinghouse. Acting upon information supplied
- 6:03Speaker 4: by the various insurance companies and other allied agencies, this
- 6:07Speaker 4: Bureau forwards all facts and figures concerning the disposition of
- 6:10Speaker 4: motor vehicles on a nationwide basis. Reports are made available
- 6:14Speaker 4: to all law enforcement agencies. One of the pieces of
- 6:17Speaker 4: information put out by the National Auto Theft Bureau is
- 6:20Speaker 4: the Salvage Report, listing all sales and purchases of automobiles that,
- 6:24Speaker 4: for one reason or another may have been relegated to
- 6:27Speaker 4: the junkyard or to the salvage company, a fact that
- 6:30Speaker 4: many motorists may not know. Nine four am Ben and
- 6:33Speaker 4: I checked through the Police Commission and found that the
- 6:36Speaker 4: owner of Hermann Salvage was a Herman Lester. He had
- 6:39Speaker 4: been in business at the same location for six years
- 6:41Speaker 4: and appeared to be a reputable businessman. We drove down
- 6:44Speaker 4: to twenty seven to sixteen West sand Pedro to check
- 6:46Speaker 4: it out. Was an average looking garage with a connecting
- 6:49Speaker 4: salvage yard filled with several hundred smashed up cars of
- 6:52Speaker 4: all makes and models. It was nine thirty two am
- 6:55Speaker 4: when we walked into the garage.
- 6:59Speaker 5: As a fellow then of shirt, Yeah, I see him.
- 7:02Speaker 4: Can I help you?
- 7:03Speaker 7: Gentlemen? Yes?
- 7:04Speaker 6: Or police officers auto theft detail?
- 7:06Speaker 7: Oh yes, don't believe I know you fellas. My name
- 7:09Speaker 7: is Lester.
- 7:09Speaker 6: This is Sergeant Friday. My name is from Merril.
- 7:12Speaker 4: How I do How are you? Are you the owner here?
- 7:14Speaker 7: Yeah? That's right.
- 7:16Speaker 8: Whatever happened to Mac and Donovan used to drop in
- 7:18Speaker 8: once twice a month.
- 7:19Speaker 6: I haven't seen him for two three weeks now while.
- 7:21Speaker 4: They're a little busy on a special assignment.
- 7:23Speaker 7: Oh I see all right?
- 7:24Speaker 8: If we look around here, Oh you bet make yourselves
- 7:27Speaker 8: right at home. Anything special, No, just looking Okay, Notice
- 7:32Speaker 8: you've been pretty busy. Huh yeah, I had a pretty
- 7:34Speaker 8: good month. Salvage racket's gonna get sour again. Looks like
- 7:37Speaker 8: with the Korean War and all.
- 7:38Speaker 6: The cutbacks, doesn't seem to have hit you so far.
- 7:42Speaker 7: Well, no, not so far. Looks like you may tighten
- 7:44Speaker 7: up anytime.
- 7:46Speaker 5: I noticed from our salvage reports you've been doing a
- 7:48Speaker 5: big business in GM merchandise.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Yeah, we have.
- 7:51Speaker 8: You know they're starting to build tanks back there now.
- 7:53Speaker 8: We wanted to make sure we wouldn't run short on parts.
- 7:55Speaker 6: You get a lot of call for GM parts.
- 7:57Speaker 7: Do you, Oh? Yeah, we sure do.
- 8:00Speaker 8: In town knows if they need something for a Caddy
- 8:02Speaker 8: or a Buick or any of those cars, that's the
- 8:03Speaker 8: place to come. We kind of built up a reputation
- 8:06Speaker 8: specializing in GMU's park.
- 8:08Speaker 5: I say, line, if we check your last few buys, fine,
- 8:14Speaker 5: you have a forty nine Cadillac, forty seven old body
- 8:19Speaker 5: Act forty eight, nineteen forty nine Chevrolet.
- 8:22Speaker 7: Wonder if we might see those, yes.
- 8:24Speaker 8: Sir, right out in the yard back this way. All
- 8:29Speaker 8: four of them are really beat bad shape. Just breaks
- 8:32Speaker 8: your heart to see beautiful merchandise like that, all smashed up.
- 8:35Speaker 7: I know what people are thinking of the way they drive.
- 8:38Speaker 6: Yeah, and you take.
- 8:39Speaker 8: A new Caddy, one of those new convertibles, really beautiful merchandise.
- 8:43Speaker 7: Somebody takes one out, rolls it. We pick it up
- 8:45Speaker 7: and tow it down. Here, beautiful car like that, all
- 8:48Speaker 7: rolled up in a ball.
- 8:49Speaker 6: Georgia Street receiving at probably picked up the red Yeah,
- 8:53Speaker 6: really shamed.
- 8:55Speaker 7: Here we go. There's a Caddy.
- 8:58Speaker 6: Oh yeah, uh, let's see see uh.
- 9:03Speaker 7: Old's and the pontiacar on that road there, you see him? Yeah?
- 9:07Speaker 7: Huh And Chevrolet, wasn't.
- 9:10Speaker 6: It, yes, sir, nineteen forty nine? Yeah, oh yeah, there
- 9:14Speaker 6: she is over there?
- 9:15Speaker 7: Uh?
- 9:15Speaker 6: Third card?
- 9:16Speaker 7: Uh? Maroon?
- 9:18Speaker 6: Yeah, Marion one?
- 9:19Speaker 4: Yeah down there.
- 9:20Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 9:21Speaker 6: It's like a graveyard, doesn't sure it does. What do
- 9:24Speaker 6: you do with all these cars? Sprip 'em down for parts?
- 9:27Speaker 7: Well at least uh four you checking now? Yeah, they're
- 9:30Speaker 7: all total wrecks.
- 9:31Speaker 6: Nothing much can be done with them except for parts.
- 9:35Speaker 4: How about that Cadillac down there to Sedan? Uhuh that
- 9:38Speaker 4: one over there? Can't you fix that one up? That
- 9:40Speaker 4: doesn't look beyond repair from here?
- 9:42Speaker 8: Oh, step around the other side here. You can't see
- 9:44Speaker 8: from where you're standing here. The right side's all stoven.
- 9:49Speaker 8: By the time you figure replaced those side panels and fenders, tram,
- 9:53Speaker 8: we couldn't come out on it.
- 9:54Speaker 4: Yeah, I see now, well I don't know too much
- 9:56Speaker 4: about it, but it'll look good from over there.
- 9:58Speaker 7: Yeah. That's where we get all the time.
- 9:59Speaker 8: People want us to pay top prices or stuff we
- 10:01Speaker 8: can't get our money out of. If we could repair them,
- 10:04Speaker 8: fix them up, and re sell them as a complete
- 10:05Speaker 8: autumn and bill would be a lot of money in
- 10:07Speaker 8: this business.
- 10:07Speaker 6: We do that with some of them, don't you.
- 10:09Speaker 7: Oh, very few of them.
- 10:10Speaker 6: I'll tell you.
- 10:11Speaker 7: That's all we look for. But we don't always get lucky.
- 10:14Speaker 8: I see, say, hund you boys like to see some
- 10:17Speaker 8: really beautiful merchandise.
- 10:18Speaker 6: What's that?
- 10:19Speaker 7: Well, come on back in the shop, all right.
- 10:22Speaker 6: Kind of a hobby of mine.
- 10:28Speaker 7: Here's what keeps us busy.
- 10:31Speaker 8: Plates and pink slips on they we to Sacramento for cancelation.
- 10:34Speaker 4: H Over this way.
- 10:41Speaker 7: Here we are.
- 10:42Speaker 9: Take a look at this baby.
- 10:43Speaker 7: Yeah, hot rod? Huh oh, not exactly. We don't go
- 10:47Speaker 7: in for that. Kids racing around town.
- 10:49Speaker 4: Well sure looks like one.
- 10:51Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's a little better and most of the
- 10:52Speaker 7: kids can throw together. What dot it do?
- 10:54Speaker 8: We clocked her up at me Rock at one hundred
- 10:56Speaker 8: and twelve last weekend. You know they were coming in
- 10:59Speaker 8: here from all over time.
- 11:00Speaker 7: I want to see this car, that's all. Yeah. You
- 11:02Speaker 7: ever get up to Murock Dry Lake.
- 11:04Speaker 4: No, I never do, but that's the place for it.
- 11:06Speaker 4: Running around town and those things can cause a lot
- 11:08Speaker 4: of accidents.
- 11:09Speaker 7: Those drag races the kids have. Yeah, we don't go
- 11:11Speaker 7: in for that stuff.
- 11:12Speaker 6: This is strictly scientific as far as I'm concerned.
- 11:15Speaker 7: I like to build them up. See what we can
- 11:16Speaker 7: make them do.
- 11:17Speaker 8: Cost a lot of money, don't They got fifty four
- 11:19Speaker 8: hundred dollars in this one right now? I'm putting more
- 11:21Speaker 8: into it. My reignition milled heads, twin Wakefields. Let me
- 11:25Speaker 8: start it up for you.
- 11:26Speaker 7: Okay, hundred twenty horses under there. Yeah sounds good. That's
- 11:40Speaker 7: what at that?
- 11:41Speaker 8: You want to Yeah, a lot of power in here ahead.
- 11:53Speaker 7: You want to see it up in the lake?
- 11:55Speaker 4: You really go al bat.
- 12:00Speaker 6: It's all made up on a salvage car, every bit
- 12:02Speaker 6: of it.
- 12:03Speaker 7: Buy a few things new, but most.
- 12:05Speaker 6: Of it's right out of wrecks like those outside.
- 12:07Speaker 4: There takes a lot of talent to build up something
- 12:09Speaker 4: like this and scrapped, don't it.
- 12:11Speaker 8: No, not really, After you've been at it long as
- 12:13Speaker 8: I have, it's not too tough.
- 12:15Speaker 6: The trick is to get more speed out of them,
- 12:17Speaker 6: and anyone else can't.
- 12:18Speaker 7: Yeah, we did a good job on this car.
- 12:21Speaker 8: Oh, if you put your mind to it, you can
- 12:22Speaker 8: do a lot with a wreck car.
- 12:27Speaker 4: Before we left Herman Salvage, we checked all four of
- 12:29Speaker 4: the GM cars that were listed on the salvage report.
- 12:32Speaker 6: We made a careful check on all of.
- 12:34Speaker 4: The cars in the yard and in the garage, paying
- 12:36Speaker 4: special attention to the few cars that were in the
- 12:38Speaker 4: process of being rebuilt by Herman Lester's mechanics. We went
- 12:42Speaker 4: over his records, carefully checking the disposition of all of
- 12:45Speaker 4: his buys for the past several months. Everything was in
- 12:48Speaker 4: the perfect order. We found that in the past three
- 12:50Speaker 4: weeks Lester had taken in ten cars, Eight of them
- 12:54Speaker 4: had been stripped down for parts, and two of them
- 12:57Speaker 4: had been rebuilt and resold. The investigation showed that four
- 13:00Speaker 4: of those cars were GM cars and the two that
- 13:03Speaker 4: were resold were both General Motors. Eleven twenty eight am.
- 13:07Speaker 4: Ben and I drove back to the office and asked
- 13:09Speaker 4: mc and donovan if they'd checked through the two resale
- 13:11Speaker 4: cars to make sure everything was in order as the
- 13:14Speaker 4: reports indicated. We checked through on the remaining eight cars
- 13:17Speaker 4: that were listed by Herman. Lester is broken down for parts.
- 13:20Speaker 4: According to DMV, all plates and pink slips have been
- 13:23Speaker 4: returned to them for cancelation.
- 13:25Speaker 5: Eleven fifty Am. Well that's it, Joe, Yeah, eight of
- 13:29Speaker 5: the cars check out. Two of those were GMS.
- 13:31Speaker 4: You know, well that leaves just the two that mcindonovan
- 13:34Speaker 4: are checking.
- 13:34Speaker 6: Uh. I don't know.
- 13:35Speaker 5: Everything done there? Looked all right, says Saints Leicester. Wasn't
- 13:38Speaker 5: holding back anything. Well as I could tell cooperative everything
- 13:42Speaker 5: in order. If those two that mcindonovan are working on checkout,
- 13:45Speaker 5: I get it, I'd say, well, it seems to me.
- 13:47Speaker 5: Lester told us everything everything we ask him. Anyway, I
- 13:51Speaker 5: don't think you don't there.
- 13:53Speaker 4: If you did, I got an ID who might be
- 13:54Speaker 4: able to tell us. Somebody's been left out in the
- 13:56Speaker 4: cold here.
- 13:57Speaker 6: What are you getting there?
- 13:58Speaker 7: Well?
- 13:58Speaker 4: No, if Herman's been able to buy up all GM cars,
- 14:00Speaker 4: what are the other salvage dealers been doing about it
- 14:03Speaker 4: that it's all.
- 14:04Speaker 6: Let's check his competition.
- 14:08Speaker 4: Twelve forty pm we drove back down to West.
- 14:11Speaker 6: San Pedro Street.
- 14:12Speaker 4: We picked out a group of salvage companies in the
- 14:14Speaker 4: immediate neighborhood close to Herman's thirty two over nine West
- 14:17Speaker 4: San Pedro John's wrecking Yard.
- 14:20Speaker 6: We introduced ourselves and started to talk with the owner
- 14:22Speaker 6: of John Bacon.
- 14:24Speaker 4: A routine check was made of his establishment, and as
- 14:26Speaker 4: far as we could tell, everything appeared to be okay.
- 14:28Speaker 6: And that's all you made, just that won by that's it.
- 14:31Speaker 6: Nineteen forty six Ford, we're dying a slow death.
- 14:35Speaker 10: Business pretty bad, huh. I've never seen it worse, at
- 14:37Speaker 10: least as far as we're concerned. How do you account
- 14:39Speaker 10: for that, mister Bacon?
- 14:40Speaker 7: Oh?
- 14:41Speaker 10: Everything, I guess. Business is bad all over at the moment.
- 14:44Speaker 10: Scrap metal situations in the state of flux the present time.
- 14:47Speaker 5: And looking around mister began, we noticed you don't have
- 14:49Speaker 5: much in the way a General Motors die. Is that
- 14:51Speaker 5: because of GM going into war production, any cutback would
- 14:54Speaker 5: eventually affect you, fellas, wouldn't they?
- 14:56Speaker 6: No, No, not at all.
- 14:57Speaker 10: Cutback would sure, But there's no tremendous cartoon one right
- 15:00Speaker 10: at the present time. Just still turn out a lot
- 15:02Speaker 10: of automobiles back there.
- 15:04Speaker 6: Well, then, what's your problem?
- 15:05Speaker 10: We're being out bid right up and down the line
- 15:08Speaker 10: by the same outfit.
- 15:09Speaker 6: Who's that company by the name of Herman.
- 15:11Speaker 10: Salvage just up the street there, go out to buy
- 15:13Speaker 10: a piece of merchandise there, boys just won't let's get
- 15:16Speaker 10: near it.
- 15:16Speaker 6: They paying more than you do, huh, more than.
- 15:18Speaker 10: We can the sergeant, I unestly don't see how they're
- 15:21Speaker 10: coming out on some of their deals.
- 15:23Speaker 6: It's that much out of line now, it certainly is.
- 15:26Speaker 10: You know, whenever there's anything available, all the salvage companies
- 15:28Speaker 10: get their bid in.
- 15:30Speaker 6: Well, Herman simply out bids all of us. Yeah, it
- 15:32Speaker 6: makes it kind of rough.
- 15:33Speaker 10: I'm not the only one Pete larking up the street,
- 15:35Speaker 10: old man, huh, Henry next door all of us. I
- 15:38Speaker 10: don't know what we can do about it. Herman seems
- 15:41Speaker 10: to be doing all right, no matter what he pays
- 15:42Speaker 10: for his cars. Anemost can figure it out. Just judge
- 15:47Speaker 10: him from the number of cars he out bids us
- 15:48Speaker 10: on the number he rebuilds. I just can't see how
- 15:51Speaker 10: he's coming out. But he is uh figure, he's laying
- 15:54Speaker 10: odds on a big shortage. That's what all of us think.
- 15:56Speaker 10: He's laying in the stock files at the ENDEA sure
- 15:59Speaker 10: what else could have think?
- 16:03Speaker 4: We continued our check on all salvage dealers, both in
- 16:06Speaker 4: the neighborhood of Herman Lester's place and throughout the city.
- 16:10Speaker 4: Seemed to be a fact well known to most dealers
- 16:12Speaker 4: that Herman was outbidding all of them on any and
- 16:14Speaker 4: all GM automobiles. The only possible explanation was that he
- 16:18Speaker 4: must be trying to lay in a large stockpile of
- 16:20Speaker 4: this particular make of car. Three point thirty five PM,
- 16:23Speaker 4: we received word from Sergeants Mack and Donovan that they
- 16:26Speaker 4: had checked out the two remaining cars listed in Herman's books.
- 16:29Speaker 4: The resales ben was right. They checked out with no discrepancy.
- 16:34Speaker 4: During the next ten days, the investigation continued. The theft
- 16:37Speaker 4: of late model GM cars continued, with few recoveries. Suspects
- 16:41Speaker 4: were arrested. In question, we could find no connection that
- 16:44Speaker 4: might lead us to an organized ring of car thieves
- 16:46Speaker 4: that might be responsible for the lack of GM car recoveries.
- 16:50Speaker 4: The salvag's reports showed no change in Herman's buying technique.
- 16:54Speaker 4: Apparently he was still dealing heavy on the one particular
- 16:57Speaker 4: make of car. Thursday, May twenty fifth, we received a
- 17:00Speaker 4: teletype from DMV listing all the salvage by transfers, and
- 17:05Speaker 4: making our usual daily check of this teletype, we noticed
- 17:07Speaker 4: a nineteen forty nine Cadillac engine number five nine eight
- 17:11Speaker 4: seven seven four one five. It had been resold from
- 17:15Speaker 4: salvage to a used car lot.
- 17:19Speaker 5: That's the place right up the block. Yeah, I say,
- 17:23Speaker 5: same cad we saw in Herman salvage.
- 17:25Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny, isn't it the one in particular that
- 17:27Speaker 4: I asked him about? You remember, Yeah, I remember you
- 17:29Speaker 4: thought it could be fixed up. He said, No, it's
- 17:31Speaker 4: only been a little over two weeks ago, hadn't it.
- 17:33Speaker 4: Yeah right, Well, still doesn't prove anything.
- 17:37Speaker 6: Here we are, Jakes. This is the place. Yeah, there's
- 17:40Speaker 6: a cad in the front line right down there. Huh.
- 17:44Speaker 6: I don't see anyone around you? No, I don't. Well,
- 17:48Speaker 6: I guess it's hard to check the engine number anyway.
- 17:50Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll get the hood really right.
- 18:04Speaker 6: Yeah, there we go.
- 18:06Speaker 4: Yeah, engines had a good steam clean let's say five.
- 18:13Speaker 7: Nine eight.
- 18:15Speaker 4: Seven seven four one five.
- 18:20Speaker 6: That's it. I'man sure did a nice job, only didn't Yeah,
- 18:25Speaker 6: almost looks too good. It just a minute.
- 18:27Speaker 5: Yeah, body cereal doesn't match, doesn't correspond with the engine model.
- 18:33Speaker 4: It's a forty nine. Body could be a late forty nine.
- 18:37Speaker 4: But it's a definite switch in there.
- 18:39Speaker 6: I'm sure it is. That's funny.
- 18:40Speaker 4: Yeah, look at this right side here.
- 18:45Speaker 6: This was the bad side, wasn't it. Yeah?
- 18:47Speaker 4: Try it looks like it's been rolled out to you.
- 18:51Speaker 6: No, there's no feathering, no orange peel. Either.
- 18:56Speaker 5: That's the best repaying job I've ever seen. Or it's
- 18:58Speaker 5: never been in an accident.
- 19:00Speaker 6: We'll take a look underneath. Want to move your feet there?
- 19:04Speaker 7: All right?
- 19:08Speaker 6: Anything?
- 19:12Speaker 4: No? Nothing, There's not a seam or a joint under there,
- 19:15Speaker 4: no welding marks of any kind. This car has never
- 19:18Speaker 4: been in a smashup. The engine number checks, the body doesn't.
- 19:22Speaker 4: And this is the one herman couldn't fix up.
- 19:24Speaker 6: That's what he said. Maybe he changed his mind or
- 19:26Speaker 6: he lied.
- 19:39Speaker 7: You are listening to Dragnet from beginning to end.
- 19:43Speaker 3: Dragnet is the authentic story of your police force and action.
- 19:55Speaker 4: Nineteen forty nine Cadillac engine number five nine eight seven
- 19:58Speaker 4: seven four one and checking out this automobile, Ben and
- 20:02Speaker 4: I had found that the engine number corresponded with the
- 20:04Speaker 4: salvage report.
- 20:05Speaker 6: Concerning Herman Lester's place.
- 20:07Speaker 4: The one big item that did not jibe was the
- 20:09Speaker 4: fact that the engine was now mounted in a different
- 20:11Speaker 4: body than when the car left the factory, a fact
- 20:14Speaker 4: that had to be accounted for in complete detail. When
- 20:17Speaker 4: we had checked this automobile on the eleventh of May
- 20:19Speaker 4: at Herman Salvage yard, both engine and body numbers corresponded.
- 20:24Speaker 4: In taking a close look at the car, it was
- 20:26Speaker 4: obvious that the body had not been repaired in any way.
- 20:29Speaker 4: It was clear that this particular car had not been
- 20:31Speaker 4: in any kind of collision. We went back to the
- 20:34Speaker 4: rear of the lot and asked one of the salesmen
- 20:36Speaker 4: not to sell the car without informing us. When we
- 20:39Speaker 4: got back to the office, we started rechecking all of
- 20:41Speaker 4: the auto theft reports. We found five stolen Cadillacts, but
- 20:45Speaker 4: all the body styles and models were different, with the
- 20:47Speaker 4: exception of one, a nineteen forty nine Cadillac sedan reported
- 20:51Speaker 4: stolen on May fourteenth. It was registered in the name
- 20:54Speaker 4: of William Brown l. We checked his home and found
- 20:57Speaker 4: that he was at work. It was a superintendent for
- 20:59Speaker 4: the northm Manya and Van lines. We drove over and
- 21:01Speaker 4: picked him up and took him to Jac's carl out
- 21:04Speaker 4: on Vermont Avenue.
- 21:08Speaker 5: This is the car, mister Brown. Now, well, it's just
- 21:14Speaker 5: like mine, but I don't think it's the one. Are
- 21:16Speaker 5: you're sure?
- 21:16Speaker 4: For one?
- 21:17Speaker 6: Thing is a different color? My car was maroon. You
- 21:20Speaker 6: wanna step over here, mister Brownew sure you know, if
- 21:26Speaker 6: you'll look very closely here on the door edging and
- 21:28Speaker 6: on the gym uh huh right here.
- 21:30Speaker 4: See this is the one place sometimes they miss with
- 21:33Speaker 4: a spray gun if they're gonna repaint.
- 21:35Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there's a faint trace of red under the
- 21:37Speaker 6: blue paint. There. Looks like it could be maroon, doesn't he?
- 21:40Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 21:40Speaker 6: It does it that this car has been repainted. It
- 21:44Speaker 6: was maroon.
- 21:46Speaker 5: Well, mine didn't have these kind of seat covers. Let's see,
- 21:53Speaker 5: same kind of upholstery I had though underneath there.
- 21:58Speaker 6: I don't know, mister Brown.
- 21:59Speaker 4: Now there might be something other than the color and
- 22:01Speaker 4: the upholstery that you'd know your own car buy never
- 22:04Speaker 4: gave it much thought. Well, there's usually some little identifying
- 22:07Speaker 4: markt some kind I know that on my car the
- 22:10Speaker 4: limbs and the right headlight got broken and I had
- 22:12Speaker 4: to replace it with one that didn't match.
- 22:14Speaker 6: Something like that. You see Could I look inside them? Minute? Sure?
- 22:22Speaker 5: All right here on it the speedometer, there was a
- 22:24Speaker 5: thumbprint pressed in at the factory.
- 22:26Speaker 6: It was pretty deep. No, it's not there now.
- 22:30Speaker 4: I don't forget that the car has been repainted. It
- 22:32Speaker 4: might have been covered up.
- 22:33Speaker 5: Oh, this was clear down of the metal apparently when
- 22:36Speaker 5: they were installing the instruments at the factory.
- 22:37Speaker 6: Of the panel wasn't dry yet.
- 22:40Speaker 5: Not there now, They couldn't have covered it up unless
- 22:42Speaker 5: they made a special point of it.
- 22:43Speaker 4: Well, sometimes that's done. Car thieves are kind of clever.
- 22:47Speaker 6: I'm sorry, gentlemen. I don't think this is my car.
- 22:50Speaker 6: I don't think. I don't wish it was, but it's not.
- 22:53Speaker 5: Can you think of just one other thing? Maybe just
- 22:55Speaker 5: one mark of identifications?
- 22:57Speaker 6: All we need? Oh, even these tires aren't. Man.
- 23:00Speaker 5: I had whiteside walls who could have been switched. They
- 23:03Speaker 5: were pretty new. Wait a minute, I think I remember something.
- 23:10Speaker 5: There's no rip up there.
- 23:11Speaker 6: What's that, sir? I just thought of something.
- 23:14Speaker 5: The boys down in the office gave me a Saint
- 23:16Speaker 5: Christopher metal you know, the large metal kind you're supposed
- 23:19Speaker 5: to bolt to your dashboard. Yes, I didn't want to
- 23:21Speaker 5: put it on, so I carried it around with me
- 23:22Speaker 5: in the car. There was a rip up there and
- 23:25Speaker 5: the inner lining of the top, but she there's no
- 23:27Speaker 5: rep in this. Let me see, how about it?
- 23:31Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I can feel it. Does it feel like
- 23:34Speaker 6: a metal can get my pocket knife on it? What
- 23:37Speaker 6: do you think they replaced the cloth up there? I
- 23:39Speaker 6: don't know. Yeah, yeah, here, Eh does this sit mister Brodow?
- 23:47Speaker 6: That's it.
- 23:48Speaker 5: Look on the back there, my name's engraved on it.
- 23:50Speaker 5: You see, Yes, sir, well, I sure didn't think this
- 23:54Speaker 5: was my car. I never would have known it.
- 23:55Speaker 4: That's what the guys figured who stole it. The nineteen
- 24:02Speaker 4: forty nine Cadillac was taken to the police garage and
- 24:04Speaker 4: a complete and thorough check was made. The car, with
- 24:07Speaker 4: the exception of the engine, was positively identified as the
- 24:09Speaker 4: property of William Brown l. This definitely implicated Herman Lester
- 24:13Speaker 4: and showed his salvage operations to be illegitimate. He had
- 24:16Speaker 4: obviously been buying one particular make of salvage automobile outbidding
- 24:20Speaker 4: all his competitors to do so. When he would buy
- 24:22Speaker 4: a piece of wrecked equipment, an exact duplicate would be
- 24:25Speaker 4: stolen to match it. He would then dispose of the
- 24:27Speaker 4: engine from the stolen vehicle and replace it with a
- 24:30Speaker 4: Salvage engine. With this system of operation, Herman Salvage had
- 24:34Speaker 4: been enjoying a lucrative business which accounted for a great
- 24:37Speaker 4: percentage of the stolen cars that we hadn't been able
- 24:39Speaker 4: to recover. Seven to twenty five pm May twenty fifth,
- 24:43Speaker 4: we drove out to pick up Herman Lesker. His home
- 24:45Speaker 4: address was listed as eighty six twenty five Wonderland Drive.
- 24:48Speaker 4: It was up in the Law Canyon District, a heavily
- 24:51Speaker 4: wooded section of Los Angeles.
- 24:55Speaker 5: Pretty nice place up in there, which you can see
- 24:58Speaker 5: of it through the trees.
- 24:59Speaker 6: Let's go.
- 25:05Speaker 5: Look at that, Joe Ye looks like a fifty olds
- 25:08Speaker 5: everything there but the engine, no plates.
- 25:12Speaker 6: I didn't notice that from the street. Did You never
- 25:14Speaker 6: could have seen it from down there.
- 25:18Speaker 5: It looks like a garage back up in there. Done there,
- 25:21Speaker 5: perfect spot. You can't see any of this from the
- 25:23Speaker 5: street with all those trees. Butt He fancy layout for
- 25:27Speaker 5: a home garage, good side.
- 25:29Speaker 6: You know somebody's working up in there.
- 25:33Speaker 9: Yeah, come on, hi, there brings your fellows right up here.
- 25:41Speaker 9: Won't have a little talk with you.
- 25:43Speaker 6: Well, you're bet come on in the house, have a
- 25:45Speaker 6: cold beer. Huh No, this would be all right, Joe.
- 25:48Speaker 6: Uh you got a hot sheet?
- 25:50Speaker 5: Yeah right here, kind of call me by surprise you're
- 25:53Speaker 5: working out in the garage. Yeah, that figures lest year
- 25:56Speaker 5: at these plates are from a stolen car.
- 25:58Speaker 6: You sure that's why you remember?
- 26:00Speaker 4: A forty nine Cadillac We looked at down at your
- 26:02Speaker 4: place a couple of weeks ago. Not sure, forty nine cat,
- 26:05Speaker 4: that's right? Whatever became of that car?
- 26:07Speaker 6: Oh? No, I remember? Yeah?
- 26:09Speaker 5: I sold that car to Jake's O Run Vermont. Thought
- 26:11Speaker 5: you told us you couldn't fix it up.
- 26:13Speaker 7: I don't remember. You're sure you don't mean some other.
- 26:15Speaker 4: Car now, No, it's the same one, you know, the
- 26:17Speaker 4: one we mean?
- 26:17Speaker 6: How about it?
- 26:18Speaker 7: How about what?
- 26:19Speaker 6: That was a stolen car?
- 26:20Speaker 5: Lester and you, knowing not the stolen car out there
- 26:22Speaker 5: in the yard, didn't what's that hoistander?
- 26:25Speaker 4: They go?
- 26:26Speaker 7: Joe?
- 26:26Speaker 6: All right, lest you're holding done?
- 26:28Speaker 4: Get stop it.
- 26:39Speaker 7: All right?
- 26:40Speaker 6: I get I don't get the cuff, Joe.
- 26:43Speaker 4: Come on, get up on your feet, all right, Come
- 26:46Speaker 4: on on your feet, stand still rough one.
- 26:50Speaker 5: Huh yeah, come on, Lester, let's go.
- 26:55Speaker 7: Did you find out who took you off?
- 26:57Speaker 6: Saint Christopher?
- 27:05Speaker 2: The story you just heard was true, only the names
- 27:08Speaker 2: were changed to protect the innocent.
- 27:10Speaker 3: On August fifteenth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department
- 27:14Speaker 3: eighty two, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.
- 27:16Speaker 3: In a moment the results of that trial, Hermann W.
- 27:27Speaker 3: Lester was tried and convicted on three counts of grand
- 27:30Speaker 3: theft auto and two counts of grand theft money, all
- 27:33Speaker 3: sentences to run consecutively. Grand theft auto was punishable by
- 27:37Speaker 3: imprisonment for a term of one to five years, grand
- 27:40Speaker 3: theft money by a term of one to ten years.
- 27:42Speaker 3: The suspect was also filed on by federal authorities for
- 27:45Speaker 3: violation of the Diary Act. You have just heard Dragnet
- 27:51Speaker 3: a series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice
- 27:55Speaker 3: comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker,
- 27:57Speaker 3: Los Angeles Police Department.
- 27:59Speaker 2: For rot your Dragon questions transcribe for Los Angeles, Stay
- 28:03Speaker 2: tuned for Conversty and next over many NBC stations.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is a reason I love revisiting Dragnet.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Now there are those episodes which are all time great
- 28:25Speaker 1: episodes that you remember, but then there are those quirky,
- 28:30Speaker 1: interesting programs that you kind of forget. Because there were
- 28:35Speaker 1: more than three hundred original broadcast of Dragnet, and this
- 28:39Speaker 1: is one of those, and there's so much alike about this.
- 28:42Speaker 1: We get a different type of crime in this sort
- 28:46Speaker 1: of auto theft mixing with a junkyard, and there are
- 28:50Speaker 1: some really interesting details in the investigation and how they
- 28:54Speaker 1: solve this. I also want to say, from a technical standpoint,
- 28:59Speaker 1: I love the sound effects work on that engine at
- 29:03Speaker 1: the junkyard. They must have brought in a special engine
- 29:06Speaker 1: or special piece of equipment to record that and make
- 29:11Speaker 1: that come alive through the sound effect. Probably not quite
- 29:14Speaker 1: the same as a car engine of the same sort,
- 29:17Speaker 1: because I have to imagine that it would have been
- 29:20Speaker 1: way too loud to even hear any of the dialogue
- 29:24Speaker 1: or to sound good over radio. This one was surprising too,
- 29:28Speaker 1: because of all the episodes to end with a suspect
- 29:33Speaker 1: violently resisting, you would not have thought this one. But
- 29:36Speaker 1: again it shows that while violent confrontations and arrest are
- 29:41Speaker 1: not nearly as typical as many other programs would lead
- 29:44Speaker 1: you to believe. It still does happen, and it can
- 29:49Speaker 1: happen unexpectedly because a lot of people just do not
- 29:52Speaker 1: want to go to jail. And another nice thing about
- 29:56Speaker 1: Dragnet is that because it uses real locations, it just
- 30:01Speaker 1: adds another dimension to the series. I found myself curious
- 30:06Speaker 1: about Laurel Kenyon and the way, of course it's described
- 30:09Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty one, and I was curious how it
- 30:13Speaker 1: looks today, and I was pleasantly surprised to find that
- 30:18Speaker 1: it's still a very nice and quiet neighborhood, but with
- 30:22Speaker 1: a lot of history in the entertainment industry. And according
- 30:26Speaker 1: to some of the articles I read, you still do
- 30:29Speaker 1: see some wildlife in the neighborhood. While there had been
- 30:33Speaker 1: a lot of developments of big, new expensive homes, there's
- 30:37Speaker 1: a lot of history with the entertainment industry, and you
- 30:41Speaker 1: still will find, you know, ramshackle cabins and tutor homes
- 30:46Speaker 1: up in that area. And I think, actually, if there
- 30:49Speaker 1: were a play, I'm not a person who dreams of
- 30:53Speaker 1: moving to la and I don't think that would be
- 30:56Speaker 1: the best thing in the world. For me, but if
- 30:58Speaker 1: I had to move to LA, I think I would
- 31:01Speaker 1: want to move to the Laurel Canyon area because looking
- 31:04Speaker 1: at the pictures reminded me of a lot of places
- 31:08Speaker 1: and neighborhoods I've seen around Idaho and very similar. I
- 31:12Speaker 1: think probably the main difference is about six or seven
- 31:16Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars per house. Regardless, it was fun to
- 31:20Speaker 1: look into and if you want to see some of
- 31:25Speaker 1: the endscape, you can do a Google Images search. For me,
- 31:28Speaker 1: it's probably as close as I'll get to living in La.
- 31:32Speaker 1: Now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day,
- 31:35Speaker 1: and I want to go ahead and thank Laura, Patreon
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- 32:08Speaker 1: Dragnet will return a week from next Thursday. Coming in
- 32:13Speaker 1: two weeks, we will be cross posting the series Cloak
- 32:18Speaker 1: and Dagger from the new podcast series The Great Adventurers
- 32:23Speaker 1: of Old Time Radio. And you can hear the premiere
- 32:28Speaker 1: of the Great Adventurers of Old Time Radio one week
- 32:33Speaker 1: from Sunday. And we have a fantastic week of encore
- 32:38Speaker 1: presentations for your listening pleasure, ready to roll starting tomorrow,
- 32:44Speaker 1: but from Boise, Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham.
- 32:48Speaker 1: Sign and off.