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SYSK Selects: How Condoms Work · Stuff You Should Know

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's me Josh and for this week's S
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Speaker 1: Y s K Select, I've chosen How Condoms Work, which
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Speaker 1: we released back in December of two thousand twelve. Thrill
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Speaker 1: to the number of times we use the word penis
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Speaker 1: and squirm and titter at the number of innuendows that
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Speaker 1: we unintentionally make and walk right past. It's a good
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Speaker 1: episode all around. I think you'll enjoy it. So here
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Speaker 1: we go. Welcome to Stuff you should Know from House
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Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.
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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark with me as always a Charles W.
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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant. Uh, you put us together, rub Us and lube,
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Speaker 1: you got yourself stuff you should know. You have a
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Speaker 1: lawsuit on your hands from you right, yeah, yeah, I'm
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Speaker 1: seeing somebody. How you doing? Man? Oh, I gotta speeding
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Speaker 1: ticket on the way here. I'm piste off. Well, everything
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Speaker 1: of the last fifteen minutes before we started recording is
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Speaker 1: now explained. No, we talked about regular stuff that didn't
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Speaker 1: influence my my feelings about this. No, but you're still
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Speaker 1: like you had to burn your bonnet well for that
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Speaker 1: cop man. This state patrol, they don't mess around, No,
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Speaker 1: they don't. There's no like, there's no small talk, there's
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Speaker 1: no nothing. It's give me your license and then here's
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Speaker 1: your ticket. I was like, but get what anyone who
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Speaker 1: refers to you and what the second person is citizen?
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Speaker 1: They're they're pretty serious people. Yeah, I'm gonna go to
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Speaker 1: court though, why not? Good for you, man? You know,
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Speaker 1: we don't we don't work. You never know. You might
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Speaker 1: get out of it. Yeah, we'll give it a shot. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So aside from that, I had my condom on, so
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Speaker 1: I was safe driving. That's good. Yeah. You always wear one, right,
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Speaker 1: you can't be too careful. How often do you change it? Gross? May?
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Speaker 1: That is so gross? All right? Uh, let's talk about
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Speaker 1: Measure B. Have you heard a Measure B H. It
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Speaker 1: is a referendum that Los Angeles County floated in this
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Speaker 1: last election that passed of the vote. Um. It said,
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Speaker 1: if you're in the porn industry and you're filming, you
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Speaker 1: have to wear a condom. Good. Well, it depends on
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Speaker 1: who you are. If you are a citizen, yeah, you
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Speaker 1: probably think it's good, especially if you voted in favor
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Speaker 1: of it. If you're in the porn industry, though, you're like,
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Speaker 1: people don't want to see that, And um, they're actually
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Speaker 1: talking about moving from Los Angeles, which is a big deal. People,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see a condom in their porn movies.
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Speaker 1: I guess I don't want to see any of that stuff.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see what's attached to the condom either. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so you wouldn't care, Uh no, yeah, I guess so
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see any that stuff. Apparently there's
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Speaker 1: a longstanding thing in the porn industry that's like, you
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Speaker 1: just don't show condoms and just it reflects the unnatural
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Speaker 1: nous maybe of of what you're seeing, Um, what you're like, well,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's probably not the pizza guy after all,
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Speaker 1: you know. So, um, it blows the illusion that that's
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Speaker 1: real stuff. Yeah, so they're talking about, um about moving
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Speaker 1: from Los Angeles, which is huge Los Angeles because apparently
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Speaker 1: in just Los Angeles County porn it's a billion dollar industry.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, in the valley, just in one county.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine that. So there's a big kerfuffle going
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Speaker 1: on right now over condom usage in the porn industry.
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Speaker 1: Did ever tell you about the time I scouted the
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Speaker 1: porn stage for a video shoot. No. Was this did
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Speaker 1: key for Sutherlands Driver take you there? No, But I
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Speaker 1: was working as a p A and we couldn't afford
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Speaker 1: like a real stage, so they sent me out to
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Speaker 1: the valley of this porn stage to go videotape it
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Speaker 1: and see what it looked like. And uh, it's like
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Speaker 1: a boardroom with a bed in the corner, and a
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Speaker 1: candy shop with a bed, and a gymnasium locker room
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Speaker 1: with a bed. It was really gross and I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to touch anything. And uh, as I was leaving,
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Speaker 1: a bunch of big muscly men came in to get
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Speaker 1: their shoot on. Is that right? Yeah? It was a
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Speaker 1: gay porn I had that afternoon. It was Oh, so
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Speaker 1: it's just like whatever it like, it's a it's a
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Speaker 1: sound stage. Yeah, they take all comers, you know. And
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Speaker 1: so these two dudes walked in and I walked out,
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Speaker 1: and I don't think we ended up using the stage,
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Speaker 1: but it was funny. In the conference room set there
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Speaker 1: was a framed like Oland Mills or I was a
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Speaker 1: painting of Burt Reynolds and Lonnie Anderson like at the
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Speaker 1: head of the conference room. No way, yep, sort of God. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's one thing about porn and stream moguls. They seemed
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Speaker 1: to always have like a great sense of humor. I
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Speaker 1: think this is before Boogie Nights, even because I didn't
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Speaker 1: make that connection. It was just Burt Reynolds that was
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Speaker 1: definitely before Boogie Nights. But I mean, think about Larry Flint,
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Speaker 1: He's he has a great sense of humor. Um, Hugh Hefner.
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Speaker 1: Maybe I think the less hardcore you get, the less away,
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Speaker 1: the further away from hardcore you get, the less the
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Speaker 1: less of a sense of humor the publisher has. I
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Speaker 1: bet there's some mathematical formula in there. Serious. Maybe we'll
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Speaker 1: see it one day. Alrighty, so condoms is what we're
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Speaker 1: talking about. Um, we should say, if you're young, you
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Speaker 1: might want to ask your parents if you should listen
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Speaker 1: to this. Oh man, you know that is a good
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Speaker 1: c o A like. I think it's up to parents
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Speaker 1: how they educate their children with this stuff. So we
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Speaker 1: have you have been forewarned. Go put your little pot
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Speaker 1: uh player down glass, Mom and dad? Should I be
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Speaker 1: listening to this. We're gonna be very clinical here, but
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Speaker 1: it's about sex and reproduction, so you can't be too careful.
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Speaker 1: I wonder how many kids just like pull the cheeks
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Speaker 1: over what do you think? I don't know, vast majority. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so um, let's try this again. We're talking condom um
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Speaker 1: and apparently they what we think of condom usage normal, widespread.
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Speaker 1: It's talked about, there's billboards, whatever. Is actually a fairly
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Speaker 1: recent phenomenon. The billboards and things. Yeah, and just the
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Speaker 1: idea of like using condoms like that, that's pretty recent
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Speaker 1: um from the eighties. And actually it was HIV that
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Speaker 1: kind of um spurred this condom age that we live
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Speaker 1: in now. But there have been like another golden age
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Speaker 1: of condoms shortly after the Great War, right, that's right. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Venarial diseases were pretty easy to get if you were
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Speaker 1: a sailor on leave in Europe, and so they encouraged
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Speaker 1: troops to use use condoms and distributed them in the
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Speaker 1: in the ranks, among the ranks, and when they came
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Speaker 1: back home they kept using. My guess they hit a
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Speaker 1: big boom here in the in the nineteen what I
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Speaker 1: guess forties. Post war era died down in the sixties
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Speaker 1: because the pill and then picked back up again in
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Speaker 1: the eighties because of HI be Yeah, because we we
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Speaker 1: figured out things too clever, things like penicillin and all
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Speaker 1: that stuff. Um that most of the STDs that condoms
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Speaker 1: were preventing at the time, you could just treat with antibiotics,
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Speaker 1: so people weren't too concerned with that kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: And then the pill came along and I was like,
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Speaker 1: we have no need for condoms whatsoever. But then AIDS
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Speaker 1: hit and then condom usade started to go through the roof,
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Speaker 1: which is good. Yeah, um, but apparently condoms are an
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Speaker 1: extremely old idea. At the very least, putting something on
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Speaker 1: the over your penis, whether for recreational purposes or whatever,
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Speaker 1: is at least fifteen thousand years old, right, Yeah. I
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Speaker 1: think Tray Tracy of pop Stuff wrote this article. We
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Speaker 1: should point out she's responsible for the most comprehensive podcasts
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Speaker 1: we've done. Yeah. I never even think twice when I
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Speaker 1: look in and see her name in the biline, like, oh,
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Speaker 1: well we should totally do this. Um. Yeah. She points
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Speaker 1: out that fifteen thousand years ago we have found cave
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Speaker 1: paintings that show images of a sheath penis. Yes, so
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Speaker 1: it's unclear whether or not these garments and decorations and
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Speaker 1: sheaths on the penises of Egypt and Greece and India
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Speaker 1: and Japan were for uh contraception as a barrier method
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Speaker 1: or adornment. I guarantee they weren't probably thinking of the
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Speaker 1: woman's comfort, no, especially with all the Yeah, the Japanese
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Speaker 1: version of the penis sheath or condom was made of
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Speaker 1: horn or tortoiseshell. They didn't care about the lady's pleasure.
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Speaker 1: That's just mind bogglingly painful sounding, I know, no kidding. Um,
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Speaker 1: So we know people started using condoms as a means
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Speaker 1: to prevent pregnancy by the Roman era, I think, of course, yeah,
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Speaker 1: anytime it's sexy time stuff. They were leading the way totally.
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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, anybody seemed Calligula can tell you that. Um.
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Speaker 1: But then by the time Shakespeare rolls round, condoms are
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Speaker 1: pretty common. Yeah, if you count you know, wrapping linen
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Speaker 1: around the penis and tying it in a little bow
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Speaker 1: with a ribbon at the bottom. That's a condom back then,
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Speaker 1: or stuffing something into the urethra and using a draw
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Speaker 1: string um ribbon to jump it on. It's another way
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Speaker 1: that they did things. I should post um photos of
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Speaker 1: your face, patures of your face that I'm taking like
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Speaker 1: throughout this episode. Um and well, by the time Shakespeare's age, Uh,
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Speaker 1: people are using condoms pretty frequently, and one of the
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Speaker 1: things they're using it, probably the main thing they're using
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Speaker 1: it for, is to prevent syphilis, because just like in
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Speaker 1: World War Two, sailors to the New World came and
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Speaker 1: contracted this new disease that was found only in North
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Speaker 1: America at the time, um, and or I should say
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Speaker 1: the Western hemisphere. Uh, and uh, they brought it back
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Speaker 1: and they figured out after a little while, like, well,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, I think it has to do with sex.
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Speaker 1: So they started using condoms for disease prevention through that.
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Speaker 1: So this is a pretty big point here, right, like
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Speaker 1: by the the Age of Exploration. Yeah, people understand that
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Speaker 1: you can cover the penis to prevent pregnancy and to
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Speaker 1: prevent disease. Yeah, that's a huge advancement in society. I guess,
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Speaker 1: oh totally. They were. They were on it. They still
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Speaker 1: like rolled in their own feces and like you ever
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Speaker 1: washed their hands or took a bath, but they knew
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Speaker 1: how to prevent syphilis with a little something in the
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Speaker 1: urethro with a draw stream attached to that's right by
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Speaker 1: the mid seventeen hundreds, Tracy points out they were starting
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Speaker 1: to use um condoms made from animal membranes, animal guts basically,
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Speaker 1: which if you they still have these today, if you
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Speaker 1: use something called cheap skin. It is not cheap skin,
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Speaker 1: but it is you know, cheap guts and testine lining. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you could still buy those. I think they were
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Speaker 1: about what like one percent of the total sales these days.
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Speaker 1: And they recommend those only if you are like a
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Speaker 1: monogamous bowl that's disease free and you're just using it
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Speaker 1: to like not get pregnant, right because it's very thin. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but it's not. It's it's porous, I believe enough for
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Speaker 1: pathogens to pass through. Like, you don't want to use
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Speaker 1: that if to prevent getting HIV? No, not smart? No, Um,
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Speaker 1: well you want to use is a rubber condom? That's right.
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Speaker 1: Thank you Charles Goodyear, Yeah, who gave us not only
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Speaker 1: rubber condoms, but um tires, uh, rubber hoses, rubber belts,
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Speaker 1: pretty much anything that they made of rubber. You can
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Speaker 1: thank Charles Goodyear for because of his process of vulcanization,
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Speaker 1: which is he added um sulfur and lead oxide to
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Speaker 1: rubber from the Heavia braziliensis tree, yeah, which they had
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Speaker 1: been tapping that tree for a while to get this.
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Speaker 1: You know, latex is liquid rubber, but um, yeah, vulcanization
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Speaker 1: is where it became a thing that you could mask,
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Speaker 1: you know, produce and it was safe and it was
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Speaker 1: uh stronger and uh more elastic, so you know, less
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Speaker 1: likely to break. But it was also thicker and rougher.
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Speaker 1: And you had to go to your doctor to be
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Speaker 1: fitted for one of these condoms. The good the good
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Speaker 1: part is you could wash and reuse it. It was
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Speaker 1: basically like your your your condom. You probably have your
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Speaker 1: name on it. I imagine if you got fitted though,
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Speaker 1: in the doctor's office, that would have to be with
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Speaker 1: an erection, right, yeah, you remember the little reflex hammer? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do. What does that have to do this? That's
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Speaker 1: how they did it, all right, So I guess back
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Speaker 1: in the day, you would go to your doctor and
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Speaker 1: get an direction and he would fit you with a
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Speaker 1: condom right made from vulcanized rubber. Probably a bit of
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Speaker 1: a uh investment at this time as a man, so
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Speaker 1: I doubt if a lot of people were wearing them still.
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Speaker 1: So again, imagine this is what I imagine it basically
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Speaker 1: probably looked a lot like um, a the nipple of
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Speaker 1: a baby bottle. Yeah, sure, you know. I'll bet you
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Speaker 1: there's somebody who collects old time e condoms, some rich
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Speaker 1: dude who has like an old time e condom collection. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: of course, Um, there's someone who collects everything old. Uh.
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Speaker 1: So by apparently people were using this. This is eighteen
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Speaker 1: thirty nine when Charles could with volcanization. So we're talking
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Speaker 1: like the mid to late nineteenth century. People are using
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Speaker 1: these rubber condoms from usable robber condoms. And then everybody
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Speaker 1: padded on the back a guy named Frederick Killian, Killian's
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Speaker 1: Red Beer inventor. Maybe no, it's possible. Um. He's more
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Speaker 1: famously known, however, for um creating a process of making
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Speaker 1: condoms directly from latex, which again is the sap of
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Speaker 1: the rubber tree found in Brazil, West Africa now Southeast Asia.
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Speaker 1: Now um, and he would take these glass molds that
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Speaker 1: where you could argue fallack in nature, you know, and
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Speaker 1: that he would dip it directly into latex. I don't
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Speaker 1: think he did it with his hand like that. I'm
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Speaker 1: just just like maybe initially he did. So he would
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Speaker 1: dip these these molds or um forms, right, what they're
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Speaker 1: called formers? Yeah, just into latex and uh he would
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Speaker 1: then vulcanize that, and what you had was a thinner,
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Speaker 1: stronger um better I guess condom. Yeah, thinner and stronger,
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Speaker 1: which is like, that's what you want out of a
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Speaker 1: condom because you want to have the sensation intact, but
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Speaker 1: you want to be safe and also had a longer
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Speaker 1: shelf life, and all of a sudden, Latex was the
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Speaker 1: way to go. Yeah. Now it's all condoms worldwide are latex. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and that's a lot of condoms as we'll see. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: some numbers. Should we should we talk about nicknames or not?
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Speaker 1: This seems all silly to me. I thought it was
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Speaker 1: silly too. Well, let's skip it then, Okay, maybe we
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Speaker 1: should just drop them indicasion lye. Okay, you know, so
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Speaker 1: people know because it's in here, so it's legit, right,
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Speaker 1: Instead of condoms, will say jimmy hat. Okay, Frederick Killian
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Speaker 1: came up with the latext Jimmy hat. That's right. Uh.
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Speaker 1: I guess if you don't know what a condom is
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Speaker 1: at all, we should go ahead and say it is
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Speaker 1: h a tube, it's a bag like tube that the
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Speaker 1: male penis fits in, open on one end obviously and
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Speaker 1: closed on the other. There's a little reservoir tip to
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Speaker 1: collect the semen um, supposedly, and um, it's got a
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Speaker 1: little ring around the open end, a thin rim that
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Speaker 1: you uh that you roll down upon the penis, and
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Speaker 1: that is a condom and it it basically it blocks
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Speaker 1: fluids from touching each other, which is how you get
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Speaker 1: pregnant and how you get disease. Keeps all those fluids
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Speaker 1: separate right the the form of this, the basic concept
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Speaker 1: of the condom hasn't changed much over the eons, but
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Speaker 1: just these little advances and technology like making them latex.
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Speaker 1: Late tex is not porous, yes, Um, the only way
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Speaker 1: something's going to get through is if there's some sort
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Speaker 1: of damage to it or something like that. Um, the
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Speaker 1: condoms the same what you just described as generally been
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Speaker 1: in use for hundreds or thousands of years. Right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's a barrier method. Um, these days there are I
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Speaker 1: don't think we should talk about all those standards because
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Speaker 1: my eyes started to water a little bit when I
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Speaker 1: was reading all those with the length of within the thickness. No, no,
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Speaker 1: we should talk about that. But later on all those
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Speaker 1: standards when it was just like really yeah, international codes.
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Speaker 1: There are international codes governing how they're made. Well, which
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Speaker 1: is good. I'm not knocking that, sure, it's just not exciting. Um.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, these days the length they are at least
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Speaker 1: six point three inches hundred and sixty millimeter. Uh well
16:53
Speaker 1: you did the conversion. Well I think you kind of
16:55
Speaker 1: have to say an inchest, don't you? But have you
16:57
Speaker 1: noticed that how stuff works? Articles have gone my trick. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: now it's metric. The meat one, the lab ground meat one,
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Speaker 1: both in in metric. All right, Well, I don't know
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Speaker 1: what to say about that. What about the width? What
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Speaker 1: is the width of econom when lead flat fifty two
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Speaker 1: millimeters which I did not convert to inches, the thickness
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Speaker 1: is point zero seven millimeters. That's that's very thin, which,
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Speaker 1: like we said, that's what you want out of a condom.
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Speaker 1: You want something strong, but you don't want to ruin
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Speaker 1: the sexual experience by wearing a rubber glove. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, ubber glove to and keep the rubber
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Speaker 1: gloves on your hands. That's right. They powder these things
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Speaker 1: with things like silica and corn starch and magnesium carbonate
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Speaker 1: to keep the latex from sticking to itself in packaging,
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Speaker 1: or they can come loubed up with either regular lube
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Speaker 1: or made from silicone, or spermicidal lube, which this is
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Speaker 1: good to note now that I'm married, but I was
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Speaker 1: shown it on this back then. Apparently the spermocidal lubricants
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Speaker 1: can make things worse, specifically non oxidal nine. Yeah. It
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Speaker 1: says that they found that when used with a condom,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't really do much to kill sperm, and even worse,
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Speaker 1: it can cause vaginal irritation, which can lead to easier
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Speaker 1: disease transmission. Yeah, so that's apparently not a good thing
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Speaker 1: to use non oxid A nine on your condoms. Very
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Speaker 1: good to know. And that's not knocking in nine because
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Speaker 1: I think that's what's also you use outside of a condom,
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Speaker 1: right as as spermocidal right, so it's more effective there.
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Speaker 1: I guess, how about manufacturing on them? Chuck about it all.
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Speaker 1: It all starts um either in the forests of Brazil,
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Speaker 1: Southeast Asia, or West Africa, which is where you'll find
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Speaker 1: the rubber tree, which is still to this date where
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Speaker 1: latex comes from, unless it's synthetic latex of course, but
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Speaker 1: Let's say you're you're going the natural route, and um,
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Speaker 1: you go to Brazil and get you some SAP, which
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Speaker 1: again sap from uh latex or rubber tree is latex. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so you get that, you take it back to your factory, right,
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Speaker 1: that's right. Maybe in Brazil, maybe in Thailand, who knows?
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Speaker 1: Is that what they make these? Sure? Okay, I think
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Speaker 1: they make them pretty close to the rubber plantations. All
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Speaker 1: the pictures in this article are in like Thailand or
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Speaker 1: Brazil or whatever, and that's where you're gonna find rubber trees. Okay. Um, well,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't only contain latex. You're gonna probably have some
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Speaker 1: other ingredients in your bucket there of sap, well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you added along the way. Yeah, antifungal and antibacterial compounds.
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Speaker 1: You want to keep the things clean. Zinc oxide, which
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Speaker 1: is accelerates the vulcanization process. UH, stabilizers like potassium laurate,
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Speaker 1: UM sulfur maybe which is another vulcanizing agent, ammonia anti coagulant.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, it keeps things from coagulating really,
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Speaker 1: and UH other pigments and preservatives too, you know, because
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Speaker 1: you wanted to have that lovely fleshy look in strawberry flavoring. Well,
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Speaker 1: we'll get to that too. Um. So these add to
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Speaker 1: the shelf life. Um. They make it harder to break
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Speaker 1: down because rubbers biodegradable naturally, and you don't want it
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Speaker 1: to break down. That's what happened the old days, when
20:43
Speaker 1: the easiest lubes, the natural rubber, would just break down.
20:46
Speaker 1: Your condom wasn't worth much for long, right, um, and
20:48
Speaker 1: Tracy points that this is a good reason why you
20:51
Speaker 1: never want to throw a condom used or otherwise in
20:54
Speaker 1: a toilet. That's not how you throw a condom away,
20:56
Speaker 1: because it doesn't break down. It's just gonna gum things up.
21:00
Speaker 1: It's gonna catch all the hair and toilet paper and
21:04
Speaker 1: all that stuff and grow bigger and bigger and just
21:07
Speaker 1: basically become this big giant condom damn in your sewer pipe.
21:10
Speaker 1: That's right. So what do you do? Uh? You um,
21:15
Speaker 1: wrap it in tissue paper, She suggests, wrap that tissue
21:19
Speaker 1: paper in foil, put the foil in a five millimeter
21:23
Speaker 1: thick black garbage bag, and bury it in your yard.
21:27
Speaker 1: That's how you properly dispose of a used contom. That's
21:29
Speaker 1: not true, but she does recommend the tissue and the
21:32
Speaker 1: waste basket. Yeah, just not the toilet, or if you're
21:35
Speaker 1: in New York City, just on the street or sidewalk,
21:38
Speaker 1: just fine, in the back of your cab. Have you
21:41
Speaker 1: ever noticed all the condoms on this There's a lot
21:42
Speaker 1: of them out there. It's just it's a thing. It's
21:44
Speaker 1: definitely a thing. If you live in New York you
21:46
Speaker 1: know about it, or you can bet the tiles or something.
21:49
Speaker 1: I just don't get it, Like, are these people having
21:51
Speaker 1: sex in the street they throw them out of the apartment.
21:54
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's what they're doing. That's gross, I know.
22:00
Speaker 1: Could you imagine walking down the sidewalk after a nice dinner? Okay, alright,
22:04
Speaker 1: So you've got the liquid latex goes in the vats,
22:08
Speaker 1: and then you've got the formers, which have been around
22:11
Speaker 1: for a while, and they are glass or ceramic molds
22:14
Speaker 1: of a penis, and they're on a conveyor belt. Dip
22:18
Speaker 1: it into the bat, get it, turn it and circle
22:21
Speaker 1: to get a nice even coating and dry it out,
22:24
Speaker 1: and then maybe a second or third dip to make
22:26
Speaker 1: sure it's thick enough right, and then it's into the
22:29
Speaker 1: tunnel oven for vulcanization. It has all of those, um,
22:34
Speaker 1: those the zinc oxide and the sulfur in it to
22:36
Speaker 1: help it vulcanize, so when it's exposed to heat, it
22:39
Speaker 1: becomes stronger, that's right, right. Um. And then after that
22:43
Speaker 1: I found this a little unsettling, Yeah, because I just
22:45
Speaker 1: always thought of condoms is like untouched. It's like a
22:48
Speaker 1: brand new newspaper, like you could deliver a baby with it,
22:50
Speaker 1: you know. Um. But apparently after vulcanizing, the condoms are
22:55
Speaker 1: taken off of the formers, right, um, and they are washed. Yeah,
23:01
Speaker 1: you're so the condom you're you're you're using has been
23:03
Speaker 1: washed before. I just to find the odd I guess
23:06
Speaker 1: probably mechanically washed, right Yeah. It says a washing machine, um,
23:10
Speaker 1: and invest to remove odor, pathogens and allergen. So it's
23:13
Speaker 1: good that they're doing this, But I agree with you.
23:15
Speaker 1: I kind of thought it was just like, you know,
23:18
Speaker 1: it was made and packaged immediately, and then it goes
23:22
Speaker 1: on your body, right exactly, Not quite so you you
23:25
Speaker 1: wash it. And then there's quality testing, which is a
23:29
Speaker 1: lot of pretty cool stuff. There's some there's some cool
23:32
Speaker 1: quality tests. If you ask me, well, let's get into it.
23:36
Speaker 1: Then well, there's a standard called zipping, popping, rolling, and
23:39
Speaker 1: other condom testing. Yeah, what you're testing for is you
23:42
Speaker 1: want to prevent three things that make a condom uh ineffective.
23:48
Speaker 1: Breaking the condom not good, slipping off definitely not good,
23:53
Speaker 1: and leaking. None of these are good because they are
23:56
Speaker 1: uh you know, they're not preventing the one thing or
23:59
Speaker 1: two things that you're trying to do, which is either
24:01
Speaker 1: pregnancy or some sort of socially transmitted infection. Not You
24:08
Speaker 1: notice that she's not STD anymore. It's s T I right,
24:11
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. When did that happen? Maybe she
24:14
Speaker 1: just made the change herself, you think, No, I think
24:17
Speaker 1: I think it's I don't know because it maybe disease
24:22
Speaker 1: doesn't quite scientifically capture all. I'm sure that's it. So yeah,
24:25
Speaker 1: I don't know when that happened, but I'll bet it
24:27
Speaker 1: was fairly recent. Um. So one of the two tests
24:32
Speaker 1: that they're really looking at is you don't want it
24:35
Speaker 1: to break and you don't want it to leak. Right, Yeah,
24:37
Speaker 1: So they test the condoms tensile strength. Basically, they just
24:40
Speaker 1: get a bunch of third graders in there and blow
24:42
Speaker 1: the condoms up and see how much volume it holds
24:45
Speaker 1: until it breaks. Right. Yeah, they're not third graders, but
24:47
Speaker 1: that's pretty much the long and short of it. They
24:49
Speaker 1: inflate them, they stretch them, um, they fill them with
24:54
Speaker 1: water and hang them up. Yeah, I guess these are
24:57
Speaker 1: they're testing um, either whole bad ches or selected condoms
25:01
Speaker 1: from the batch. And yeah, they hold fill the water
25:05
Speaker 1: and look at it. That's the that's the utter test.
25:07
Speaker 1: Is that what it's called. Okay, I just made it up,
25:10
Speaker 1: but I think it's good. I bet you. That's what
25:12
Speaker 1: they call it on the line, and they're literally look
25:14
Speaker 1: at it. Or else, if they want to be slightly
25:16
Speaker 1: more scientific, they'll roll it along like water absorbent paper
25:19
Speaker 1: and see if there's any water um and there shouldn't be.
25:22
Speaker 1: Remember again, late text condoms don't have any kind of
25:26
Speaker 1: pores um. And then there's another leaked test, which is
25:29
Speaker 1: a lot more scientific or at least it's probably fun
25:33
Speaker 1: or to do. I wonder how many factories use this
25:36
Speaker 1: method if it's such supermodern or or what and it's
25:40
Speaker 1: sartisfactories soon this there's also like third party companies that
25:43
Speaker 1: like make their money by testing condoms for factories or
25:47
Speaker 1: maybe as watched all groups. That's true. So how does
25:50
Speaker 1: the electricity work? So there's a couple of different ones.
25:52
Speaker 1: There's one where they take condoms and they they they
25:58
Speaker 1: put them a top metal rods that have been dipped
26:00
Speaker 1: in conductive solution, and then they run a current through
26:04
Speaker 1: these metal rods and the the condoms being rubber, shouldn't
26:09
Speaker 1: be conductive. But if there's holes or tears or anything,
26:13
Speaker 1: and I'm like, the current will run through the condom
26:15
Speaker 1: and then they have a computer watch to see, you know,
26:18
Speaker 1: if any had a current run through. Then the other
26:22
Speaker 1: one is where they turn the voltage up dry. Yeah,
26:26
Speaker 1: this is a dry test um and they basically like
26:29
Speaker 1: run a current again through a bunch of condoms and
26:32
Speaker 1: if there's any holes or whatever, those condoms will like
26:35
Speaker 1: burn or melt. It stinks, yeah, burn, Rubber doesn't smell good. Um.
26:41
Speaker 1: So those are the main ways that they will test
26:44
Speaker 1: condoms to make sure that you're all good to go
26:46
Speaker 1: when it's go time. You know what I'm saying. Uh. Slippage, however,
26:51
Speaker 1: something they cannot test for because slippage, my friend, is
26:55
Speaker 1: up to you. How you properly or improperly used the
27:00
Speaker 1: condom slippages user error. Yeah, and I'm ashamed to say that.
27:04
Speaker 1: And we're about to go over the tin steps and
27:06
Speaker 1: how to properly use a condom. I didn't know about
27:10
Speaker 1: one of them, the circumcised step. Not well, I didn't
27:14
Speaker 1: know about that. Well, what is it? Well, we'll get
27:16
Speaker 1: to it. Um. So, Tracy says, a storage is where
27:20
Speaker 1: it starts. You got up to store it properly. So, uh,
27:23
Speaker 1: heat and light is not good. Wallets, pockets and glove compartments.
27:28
Speaker 1: In other words, everywhere teenage boys forced to store their
27:30
Speaker 1: condoms is not where you should store condom. You know,
27:34
Speaker 1: it's all bad. You want to keep it in a
27:37
Speaker 1: dry um just sort of room temperature like atmosphere, and
27:44
Speaker 1: not at the roller rink. Look at number two. You
27:46
Speaker 1: look at the package, make sure it's all you know, intact,
27:50
Speaker 1: it's not opened, and it has the expiration date. You
27:52
Speaker 1: know you're within that range. Yeah, and when you do
27:55
Speaker 1: open it, you want to open it carefully. You want
27:58
Speaker 1: to tear along the one side. Sometimes it's a notch.
28:01
Speaker 1: Tracy points out that you don't want to open it
28:03
Speaker 1: with your teeth or pointy fingernails. Yeah, you don't wanna
28:06
Speaker 1: open your teeth for a couple of reasons, but one
28:08
Speaker 1: of them is you don't want to break it right, Um,
28:11
Speaker 1: you want to make sure the condom is right side up.
28:13
Speaker 1: This is the one I didn't know. I didn't know
28:16
Speaker 1: there was the right side sure, I didn't know that.
28:18
Speaker 1: Oh well, Um, I saw almost forty two years old,
28:22
Speaker 1: and I had no idea that there was an up
28:24
Speaker 1: and a down. I know you're talking about, but there
28:26
Speaker 1: is a way to tell, um what's up and what's down,
28:29
Speaker 1: and the tip the reservoir should be pointing up unimpeded.
28:34
Speaker 1: I had no idea that's the that's the top, right.
28:39
Speaker 1: I'm just learning this. So you take that reservoir right
28:43
Speaker 1: and you um, squeeze the air out of it, hold
28:46
Speaker 1: it shut, class bit shot with your fingers, and put
28:49
Speaker 1: it over the tip of the penis. We're doing this.
28:52
Speaker 1: You realize this. We've suddenly become a sex side podcast.
28:55
Speaker 1: Yeah you you miss though. If you are uncircumcised, you
28:57
Speaker 1: want to gently pull your foreskin back to really of
29:00
Speaker 1: the glands, right, okay, which is the tip of the penis.
29:03
Speaker 1: Right okay, So you put the tip of the put
29:05
Speaker 1: the condom over the tip of the penis. With the
29:06
Speaker 1: reservoir squeezed shut and then you start to unroll it.
29:10
Speaker 1: Take a chuck. That's number six. Um. She also pointed
29:15
Speaker 1: out if you don't have it right side up, it
29:17
Speaker 1: won't unroll correctly. That's why there is a top side
29:19
Speaker 1: and the downside, which now explains a lot um unroll
29:24
Speaker 1: the condom down. The length of the penis all the
29:26
Speaker 1: way to the base. You gotta take it to the base.
29:29
Speaker 1: You want it. You want full protection here. Um. Otherwise
29:32
Speaker 1: because if you look, if you use a condom perfectly,
29:36
Speaker 1: then we'll find out your chances of disease and pregnancy
29:39
Speaker 1: are virtually nil. Yeah. Problems arises when you you know
29:42
Speaker 1: you may be not roll it all the way down
29:44
Speaker 1: or will accidentally get a testicle caught in there. Um.
29:50
Speaker 1: If you need lube, UM, use a water based lube.
29:52
Speaker 1: You don't want to make the mistake of using like vassiline.
29:57
Speaker 1: I guess I should say petroleum jelly or baby oil
30:01
Speaker 1: or lotions or anything like that, anything that could have patrol. Yeah,
30:04
Speaker 1: that's all oil based and that's gonna not do you
30:06
Speaker 1: any favors in the reliability department. Right, you want it
30:10
Speaker 1: to be water based. Lubricant. That's right, But she also
30:13
Speaker 1: points out that you using extra lubricant is effective in
30:19
Speaker 1: preventing breakage during um anal penetration, but in vaginal penetration
30:24
Speaker 1: it can actually increase the likelihood of breakage of the condom.
30:29
Speaker 1: I did not know that. I did not know that either.
30:31
Speaker 1: So we're learning right along with you people. Yeah, I'm
30:34
Speaker 1: so glad to want to you sees anymore? Being married
30:36
Speaker 1: is great. Uh So after the male ejaculates, this is
30:42
Speaker 1: post coital ejaculation, you hope. Yeah, that's true. Um, you
30:48
Speaker 1: want to hold the rim of the condom to keep
30:50
Speaker 1: it from slipping off when you um exit the vagina
30:54
Speaker 1: and withdraw the penis. Uh And and before the erection
30:59
Speaker 1: is law Right, you don't want to have the condom
31:03
Speaker 1: on lose your erection while you're still in mid penetration. Uh.
31:09
Speaker 1: And then you want to run outdoors to begin the
31:12
Speaker 1: disposal process, which, as we said, ends in the yard. Right.
31:16
Speaker 1: That's right. Remove the condom, wrap it in a tissue,
31:19
Speaker 1: put it in a garbage can, and don't reuse it.
31:21
Speaker 1: No matter what your friend says, don't reuse it and
31:23
Speaker 1: don't wear two of them. Yeah, a lot of people
31:27
Speaker 1: have latex allergies, and of late condoms are latex. So
31:32
Speaker 1: some people say, well, late text works the best. I'll
31:34
Speaker 1: just use um a sheep skin membrane condom over my
31:39
Speaker 1: penis and then put a latex one over that. Apparently
31:42
Speaker 1: that is basically just really upping the risk of breakage
31:45
Speaker 1: of both. Yeah. Or if you think you know two
31:48
Speaker 1: is better than one, I don't know where this person
31:51
Speaker 1: has been. That's just not smart. You should probably not
31:54
Speaker 1: be with that person. If you're thinking about were two condoms,
31:57
Speaker 1: just block away from the bowling alley and go home
32:00
Speaker 1: or the roller rink again. Uh. And Tracy also points
32:04
Speaker 1: out for our younger listeners, condoms break more often if
32:08
Speaker 1: they're blown up or filled with water before use, So
32:12
Speaker 1: don't use it as a toy and then use it
32:14
Speaker 1: as a you know, disease preventer, right and if it breaks,
32:20
Speaker 1: stop what you're doing, get a new one. Yeah. Yeah,
32:24
Speaker 1: that's a that's a big one, because you don't want
32:26
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, well I went through the first
32:28
Speaker 1: couple of steps doing it. It was fine. Yeah, And
32:32
Speaker 1: you know, if you're serious about this, then what you're
32:35
Speaker 1: trying to do is prevent pregnancy or infection. You're gonna
32:38
Speaker 1: want to replace it like it's worth if you used
32:40
Speaker 1: it in the first place, then you might as well
32:42
Speaker 1: stop for a second shot another one. All right, Um,
32:45
Speaker 1: don't be a jerk, I guess is what you're saying. Seriously,
32:48
Speaker 1: you're trying to prevent, like you said, pregnancy. Most people
32:51
Speaker 1: are when they use condoms or um more than thirty
32:55
Speaker 1: types of viruses or bacterial infections or parasites. Right, Yeah,
33:01
Speaker 1: sex is dirty business. It certainly can be. I think
33:04
Speaker 1: this proves that, um, there is a god. All right.
33:10
Speaker 1: So you know all those diseases in bacteria for the
33:13
Speaker 1: most part, do we need to go over those? Sure? Chlamydia, UH,
33:17
Speaker 1: genital herpes, genital warts, gnarrhea, hepatitis B, HIV of course,
33:22
Speaker 1: pubic lice, um, syphilis, trick omniasis. Yeah, yeast infections, these
33:30
Speaker 1: and many more can all be yours if you don't
33:33
Speaker 1: use a condom and you sleep with somebody who has
33:36
Speaker 1: any of them. Yes, and genital warts and herpes and
33:39
Speaker 1: pubic lice and a few other s. T i s
33:42
Speaker 1: can still be yours even if you do use a condom,
33:44
Speaker 1: because they are not passed through the fluids. They are
33:48
Speaker 1: passed through skin and hair and other stuff down there
33:51
Speaker 1: in that area. Um, so chuck, how effective our condoms,
33:57
Speaker 1: like you said, when when you use them correctly, they work,
34:02
Speaker 1: like they've been proven to work. Like we have come
34:06
Speaker 1: to the pinnacle of mail um prophylaxis with the latex condom,
34:14
Speaker 1: Like it totally works. If you use it correctly and
34:16
Speaker 1: you use it every time, you're going to be fine. Uh.
34:19
Speaker 1: And they know this by um by doing studies of
34:24
Speaker 1: specifically sero discordant um couples, which means one couple as
34:29
Speaker 1: HIV and weren't one person in the couple as HIV
34:33
Speaker 1: the other partner doesn't. And they found that people who
34:36
Speaker 1: used the condom correctly every time they had sex had
34:40
Speaker 1: pretty much a nil chance or z chance of UM
34:45
Speaker 1: contracting HIV by the end of this study. Yeah, that's
34:48
Speaker 1: a two year period of these couples, so that there's
34:50
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of sex going on. It wasn't
34:52
Speaker 1: just like hey, you had sex one time and you
34:54
Speaker 1: didn't get HIV. That's great, right, So good good study
34:57
Speaker 1: from UNAIDS or un AIDS, right, which that makes sense. UNAIDS,
35:02
Speaker 1: like they're fighting AIDS, they should be called un AIDS
35:04
Speaker 1: is this United nation though, Um. And they found though
35:08
Speaker 1: that couples that that didn't use them all the time,
35:11
Speaker 1: just kind of here, they're at a fourteen to twenty
35:14
Speaker 1: one percent chance of um contracting HIV during the study. Yeah,
35:18
Speaker 1: and pregnancy prevention is pretty similar, um, over the course
35:22
Speaker 1: of the year. And of course I don't see any
35:23
Speaker 1: ages or anything like that, yere, It just says a woman.
35:27
Speaker 1: But a woman using a condom over the course of
35:29
Speaker 1: a year, who uses it perfectly for every act of
35:31
Speaker 1: sexual intercourse with a man has only a three percent
35:34
Speaker 1: chance of becoming pregnant. So nine effective. That's pretty good. Sure. Um,
35:41
Speaker 1: if you use a condom typically, which is apparently not
35:46
Speaker 1: that great, not that well, Um, and you're a woman,
35:50
Speaker 1: you have twelve percent chance of an unplanned pregnancy. But
35:54
Speaker 1: both of those beat not using anything at all, which
35:58
Speaker 1: leads to an eight percent chance of getting pregnant over
36:00
Speaker 1: the course of a year just by having sex. And
36:03
Speaker 1: you mean, it doesn't say how many men or anything
36:06
Speaker 1: like that, not many trips to the roller rink this entails,
36:10
Speaker 1: So what year is it? So there's a lot of
36:14
Speaker 1: roller rink sex going on. What got me started was
36:16
Speaker 1: the idea of like a condom like in your pocket,
36:19
Speaker 1: remember the condom ring in the genes or in your
36:22
Speaker 1: wallet or whatever. Just associate that with the roller rink
36:26
Speaker 1: and like kids with like half mustaches and like mullets
36:29
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So that's that's where the roller
36:32
Speaker 1: rink reference came from. All right. So, um, some folks
36:36
Speaker 1: say that, you know what, if you make condoms available
36:39
Speaker 1: to my teenager, it's going to encourage them to have sex.
36:43
Speaker 1: Um studies suggests that that is not the case. Um.
36:46
Speaker 1: This one study observed over four thousand teenagers over an
36:50
Speaker 1: eight year period, which is a pretty good study if
36:53
Speaker 1: you ask me. By the end of the study, all
36:56
Speaker 1: of the participants were sexually active, and the teenager who
37:00
Speaker 1: use condoms during their first sexual encounter were not more
37:03
Speaker 1: likely to have more partners than those who did not.
37:07
Speaker 1: But the condom using teens were less likely to have
37:10
Speaker 1: been diagnosed with gnorette or chlamydia. So this study at
37:15
Speaker 1: least points out that it's not gonna encourage promiscuity, but
37:18
Speaker 1: it will keep you from getting pregnant in disease. I think, um,
37:23
Speaker 1: being in your teens encourages promiscuity. Yeah, you know, yeah,
37:28
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the whole argument. It's like, are
37:30
Speaker 1: they going to do it anyway? And if they are,
37:32
Speaker 1: then make sure they have plenty of condoms. And other
37:35
Speaker 1: people say, well, now they're not gonna do it anyway,
37:37
Speaker 1: they just need to abstain, and condoms are like the
37:39
Speaker 1: devil's temptation. I'm ready for for humanity to evolve more
37:43
Speaker 1: in that realm. Like it made sense for for eighteen
37:48
Speaker 1: year old males to be at like their peak of
37:49
Speaker 1: sexual prowess and girls being able to get pregnant when
37:54
Speaker 1: they were fourteen, you know, three years ago, when we
37:57
Speaker 1: were living to thirty years old, it made sense. These days,
38:00
Speaker 1: it's just like a cruel joke. Well, you know what's
38:02
Speaker 1: interesting is we're actually going the other direction, like puberty
38:05
Speaker 1: coming younger and younger. The average boy enters puberty and
38:11
Speaker 1: I don't that this doesn't mean sexual maturation, but begins
38:14
Speaker 1: puberty at like age seven or eight. Now that's crazy.
38:18
Speaker 1: And see nowadays people are getting I'm not everyone, but
38:21
Speaker 1: people are waiting longer in general to get married and
38:24
Speaker 1: have a family, and it's getting harder and harder, uh,
38:27
Speaker 1: for older people to get pregnant much less the man
38:30
Speaker 1: who was, you know, starts the decline after eighteen years old.
38:34
Speaker 1: You get married in your mid thirties, it's like, sorry,
38:37
Speaker 1: you know, my best days were We're wasted right well,
38:41
Speaker 1: which is ironic because by that time you can grow
38:43
Speaker 1: a decent mustache, I know, you know, all right, So, um,
38:49
Speaker 1: there's this whole thing associated with condoms. They are a
38:53
Speaker 1: unique breed of product. You know, if you look at
38:56
Speaker 1: them as a commodity, as a retail product, uh, then
39:00
Speaker 1: they should be the same as candy or a toy
39:04
Speaker 1: or you know, what have you. But something that these um,
39:08
Speaker 1: these other products lack is what's called social marketing, which
39:11
Speaker 1: is what makes condoms virtually unique. There is a there's
39:15
Speaker 1: a great public interest in condoms being purchased and distributed
39:20
Speaker 1: and easily gotten by everybody in the world, whether it's
39:24
Speaker 1: for population control which is pretty sinister sounding um or
39:31
Speaker 1: through disease prevention. But governments around the world invest heavily
39:36
Speaker 1: in condoms, and by doing that, they basically just buy
39:40
Speaker 1: a bunch of condoms and turn around and selimented discount. Yeah,
39:42
Speaker 1: it's called social marketing. And the ideas that if they
39:46
Speaker 1: don't want to make them free, although you know there
39:48
Speaker 1: are plenty of places that give out condoms, um, but
39:51
Speaker 1: they want to make them very cheap for those who
39:53
Speaker 1: can't afford them, because the idea is that if you
39:55
Speaker 1: pay for something, you're more likely to use it. Uh,
39:59
Speaker 1: sort of like the co ed model. These kids who
40:02
Speaker 1: pay for their textbooks instead of just giving them textbooks,
40:05
Speaker 1: they're more likely to ease it. So I don't know
40:07
Speaker 1: why I made that connection, but the same thing, well
40:09
Speaker 1: it is, it's the exact same principle. You, Um, you
40:12
Speaker 1: have some sort of ownership over something you've paid for. Yeah.
40:14
Speaker 1: And Tracy said the rule of thumb is that a
40:16
Speaker 1: year supply of condoms should cost no more than one
40:18
Speaker 1: percent of the target countries per capita gross national product.
40:23
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's just Tracy saying that either. Well,
40:25
Speaker 1: now she didn't make that up. So um, there's uh,
40:29
Speaker 1: the other aspect of it. There's buy part of one
40:31
Speaker 1: part of social marketing is buying condoms and distributing them
40:34
Speaker 1: for cheap um. And this is like federal government, national
40:38
Speaker 1: government level stuff. Uh. And then the other side of
40:41
Speaker 1: it is educating the public. Yeah, you got to wear them, yeah,
40:46
Speaker 1: and you have to know how to wear them. We
40:48
Speaker 1: could probably get some federal funding for this episode. If
40:50
Speaker 1: you ask about little kickback. You have to know how
40:53
Speaker 1: to wear them, You have to know what they do,
40:55
Speaker 1: you have to know why to wear it, why you
40:56
Speaker 1: should wear them. Um, you should be able to explain
40:59
Speaker 1: it in plain simple terms to anybody who who who
41:02
Speaker 1: is riding a bus that if they don't wear a condom,
41:05
Speaker 1: they can die, or their junk can fall off, or
41:07
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of terrible stuff that can happen to
41:09
Speaker 1: you if you don't wear a condom. Right, Yeah, And
41:13
Speaker 1: it's been pretty successful in countries like Thailand where they
41:15
Speaker 1: have a big commercial sex industry. UM. In nineteen eighty
41:21
Speaker 1: nine they started a campaign for commercial sex workers to
41:24
Speaker 1: use condoms of the time, always use them and pretty
41:29
Speaker 1: amazing results. UM. In nineteen eighty nine, before the campaign,
41:33
Speaker 1: fourteen percent of the sex workers had consistently used condoms.
41:38
Speaker 1: By just five years later used condoms and uh not. Coincidentally, UM,
41:46
Speaker 1: s t I cases diagnosed among sex workers fell from
41:50
Speaker 1: four over four hundred thousand per year to just under
41:53
Speaker 1: thirty thousand per year. That's a huge, huge drop off. Yeah,
41:57
Speaker 1: just use the condom. That's all you gotta do. And
41:59
Speaker 1: the rest of the world watched Thailand, their jaws fell open,
42:04
Speaker 1: so they started buying condoms like crazy. So like in
42:06
Speaker 1: two thousand, for example, UM, South Africa bought two d
42:10
Speaker 1: and fifty million condoms to million condoms Botswana perchas twelve million,
42:18
Speaker 1: UM four hundred and fifty million condoms in India. UM.
42:48
Speaker 1: So this is um, this is a ton of condoms
42:52
Speaker 1: we're talking about. That was just two thousand, right, many
42:54
Speaker 1: tons of condoms. Right. Apparently the condom industry, which is
42:59
Speaker 1: just love and this social marketing stuff UM, is producing
43:04
Speaker 1: between eight and twelve billion condoms a year, right, Apparently
43:08
Speaker 1: we would need fifteen billion to effectively cover everybody for
43:13
Speaker 1: a year. Yea, every everybody is sexually active, you would
43:17
Speaker 1: need fifteen billion condoms. So they're close but not close enough. Right.
43:22
Speaker 1: That means everybody in the world does it more than
43:28
Speaker 1: twice a year, because there's like six billion people on
43:32
Speaker 1: the planet. Right. Uh well yeah, I mean if you
43:34
Speaker 1: want to average out like that, right, I think a
43:36
Speaker 1: lot of people aren't a lot of people are doing
43:38
Speaker 1: it more, right, but sure if you want to throw
43:39
Speaker 1: an average on it. Um. The thing is is, so
43:43
Speaker 1: we're we're short of condoms, which is mind boggling. There's
43:46
Speaker 1: only sixty factories on the planet making condoms for the
43:48
Speaker 1: whole world, So when you look at it like that,
43:50
Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive. But apparently the condom industry is stepping
43:54
Speaker 1: up the call and by is projected to have to
43:58
Speaker 1: produce twenty five billion condoms. There you go. Uh, first,
44:03
Speaker 1: that's a six billion dollar industry. That's good, But what's crazy?
44:06
Speaker 1: That's a six billion dollar industry. Los Angeles County from
44:08
Speaker 1: porn makes one six of the equivalent of the entire
44:13
Speaker 1: condom industries money in porn, in just porn. Yeah, in
44:17
Speaker 1: just that one county. Yeah. See how everything is connected?
44:22
Speaker 1: I do. Uh. So here in the United States, Uh,
44:25
Speaker 1: the f d A controls something called good manufacturing practices,
44:30
Speaker 1: uh rules and standards for making drugs and things like condoms.
44:35
Speaker 1: So the f d A is is has standards. There
44:39
Speaker 1: are also international standards, the International Organization for Standardization. UM,
44:45
Speaker 1: they have their own standards that covered these medical devices,
44:48
Speaker 1: and they have silly numbers attached to them, but that
44:51
Speaker 1: really means nothing to anyone, does it. Well, In case
44:54
Speaker 1: you ever wanted to know, I s O four oh
44:56
Speaker 1: seven four colon two zero zero two is the international
45:00
Speaker 1: standard for condom manufacture and distribution. That's right, And we're
45:05
Speaker 1: talking about standards. We're talking about acceptable levels of condoms
45:10
Speaker 1: that are defective per batch UM credit. I would imagine
45:15
Speaker 1: the average consumers like zero. That'd be nice um accreditation.
45:19
Speaker 1: For labs that test these procedures material shelf life stability,
45:25
Speaker 1: they're just making sure all that is up to snuff UM.
45:28
Speaker 1: And again, as we said, they're the the standards are
45:32
Speaker 1: in this manual called zapping, popping, rolling, and other condom
45:35
Speaker 1: testing tools that bear repeating um. Condoms used to be
45:42
Speaker 1: they're a little more acceptable to buy these days. Shouldn't
45:45
Speaker 1: be embarrassed to walk into your grocery store by condoms,
45:48
Speaker 1: said the forty one year old, exactly. But it's not
45:51
Speaker 1: in that way for everyone. It's not in that way
45:53
Speaker 1: for every group because they are taboo UM. In some
45:57
Speaker 1: religions UM. Catholicism uh fame Slee does not allow the
46:01
Speaker 1: use of contraception. Orthodox Judaism, apparently Islam does allow it
46:07
Speaker 1: if you are married heterosexuals, hed heterosexuals, and you have
46:15
Speaker 1: reason to prevent pregnancy, and then UM. Conservative Christian groups
46:20
Speaker 1: have long promoted abstinence rather than the use of condoms,
46:24
Speaker 1: and sometimes even fought the education and distribution of condoms
46:29
Speaker 1: for reasons we said earlier, like they think it makes
46:31
Speaker 1: their children promiscuous and they will want to have sex
46:35
Speaker 1: because they now have this condom. That is the key
46:38
Speaker 1: to them wanting to have sex. And it's not to
46:40
Speaker 1: the government to carry out population control exactly. UM In
46:48
Speaker 1: Nevada has been mandatory to use condoms if you are
46:51
Speaker 1: in a brothel, so highly regulated UM sex industry there, Nevada, Nevada, Nevada.
46:57
Speaker 1: Excuse me, so Josh who uses condoms? Uh, everybody who
47:03
Speaker 1: can get their hands on them apparently uses condoms. Um.
47:06
Speaker 1: The u N says that two thirds of the world
47:10
Speaker 1: has already and available access ready and easy access to condoms, right,
47:15
Speaker 1: and they actually created a definition. You have to I'd
47:18
Speaker 1: love the u N. You know, ready and easy access
47:20
Speaker 1: to condoms mean you have to spend less than two
47:24
Speaker 1: hours a month buying condoms. So I guess like taking
47:27
Speaker 1: a bus in a town or something like that. If
47:30
Speaker 1: you live in the middle of nowhere and Africa, it
47:32
Speaker 1: might take a while to get a condom. So this
47:34
Speaker 1: distribution net of condoms needs to be pretty uh, pretty wide,
47:39
Speaker 1: pretty um woven well woven. Yeah, and then UM, you
47:45
Speaker 1: also don't want to pay more than one percent of
47:49
Speaker 1: a person's monthly take home pay wherever they live. That's right.
47:53
Speaker 1: So when the U n is in the world is
47:55
Speaker 1: trying to distribute these and make them available, those are
47:58
Speaker 1: the criteria they look for, or as far as like
48:00
Speaker 1: what they're going to charge people maybe in one of
48:03
Speaker 1: these less developed countries, right, Um, And they we found
48:07
Speaker 1: that because of efforts like this, condom use around the
48:10
Speaker 1: world has increased. Apparently, prior to the eighties, UM, evaluations
48:17
Speaker 1: of condom usage has just been like married couples. I
48:21
Speaker 1: don't understand why. Um, Apparently things were there was maybe
48:25
Speaker 1: tawdry or something, who knows, but Um. The Brits went
48:29
Speaker 1: ahead and did a survey in nineteen fifty and found
48:32
Speaker 1: that UM for their first sexual encounter of men and
48:36
Speaker 1: women used a condom by about sixty did right, So
48:43
Speaker 1: there's definite increasing condoms condom usage. Um. They found that
48:47
Speaker 1: people who live with their partners typically use condoms less
48:52
Speaker 1: Um people who makes sense. I guess the older you are,
48:55
Speaker 1: the less you would be, the less likely you would
48:58
Speaker 1: be to use condoms, probably because you're in a long
49:01
Speaker 1: term monogamous relationship, right. Uh. And then um, people with
49:05
Speaker 1: latex allergies tend to not use condoms. Yeah. And these
49:10
Speaker 1: were studies from Europe mainly, but I imagine it's pretty
49:14
Speaker 1: similar in other parts of the world. Yeah, but hearteningly
49:16
Speaker 1: people UM in Netherlands, France, Belgium, and Britain. They found
49:21
Speaker 1: that the more partners of person had, the more likely
49:24
Speaker 1: they were to use condoms. To use a Jimmy hat
49:27
Speaker 1: a French letter, French letter. I don't even know if
49:30
Speaker 1: that one is all right. There are female condoms um
49:33
Speaker 1: that are fairly new, um when when they come around Switzerland,
49:42
Speaker 1: approved here in the United States. And and uh it
49:46
Speaker 1: is a um paul yourthane sheath sort of like the
49:50
Speaker 1: male condom, except it's just it's got two rings, one
49:53
Speaker 1: on either end, one a little smaller on one end,
49:56
Speaker 1: and that it fits in the woman's vagina, and it
50:00
Speaker 1: sort of is just like a reverse of what the
50:02
Speaker 1: male condom is. Um. They some of the benefits as
50:06
Speaker 1: a woman can put this in um beforehand, whereas a
50:10
Speaker 1: man obviously has has to be go time, has to
50:13
Speaker 1: have the erect penis, right exactly like the woman can
50:15
Speaker 1: insert this anytime anytime. UM. Well, I'm sure they are,
50:20
Speaker 1: you know, recommendations for how long that you use this
50:23
Speaker 1: thing as well. Um. But it is another barrier method
50:27
Speaker 1: that protects against HIV and pregnancy and they tend to
50:31
Speaker 1: be reusable yep. Because it's poly erethane, you can use
50:35
Speaker 1: oil based lubricants. Yep. Um. And also in places where
50:39
Speaker 1: it's difficult or impossible because of social norms for a
50:43
Speaker 1: woman to insist that the guy wear a condom. Um,
50:48
Speaker 1: this is very useful because it's it's given control of
50:52
Speaker 1: who uses the condom win to the woman. Um. It
50:57
Speaker 1: is more expensive, which is one of the disadvantages and
51:01
Speaker 1: um that could lead some people in developing nations to
51:04
Speaker 1: wash it and reuse it, which is not recommended. Um.
51:07
Speaker 1: And apparently in in trials clinical trials, it's slightly less
51:11
Speaker 1: effective at preventing pregnancy and s t i S than
51:15
Speaker 1: male condoms. But it's way way, way better than nothing obviously. Um.
51:21
Speaker 1: What else do we have? We have? Uh, spray on condoms? Yeah,
51:26
Speaker 1: sort of, not yet, they're in they're still being toyed
51:30
Speaker 1: with apparently. Yeah. This guy named I can't remember his
51:36
Speaker 1: first name. His last name is Kraus. He's a sex
51:38
Speaker 1: educator from Germany. Um and he apparently had trouble finding
51:43
Speaker 1: condoms that fit him when he was younger, a younger man.
51:47
Speaker 1: He's thirty. Now, I get the idea that he was small. Oh,
51:50
Speaker 1: I got the idea the opposite idea. I don't know,
51:54
Speaker 1: because later in the article he talked about being small
51:57
Speaker 1: and like, I want to make condoms for smaller guy?
52:00
Speaker 1: Is because oh I missed that part. Yeah, um, well,
52:03
Speaker 1: it's funny new ideas to have a range of sizes,
52:06
Speaker 1: like six sizes. The markets wide open for small condoms.
52:09
Speaker 1: Apparently traj And tried it a few years ago and
52:12
Speaker 1: like this continued him almost immediately because they didn't sell
52:15
Speaker 1: any condoms for the smaller man or something. Right, Yeah,
52:18
Speaker 1: although magnum condoms like have seventent of the market share,
52:22
Speaker 1: they're like fifteen percent bigger than normal condoms. Yeah, and
52:25
Speaker 1: and Cross's uh, his theory is that guys that are
52:29
Speaker 1: smaller don't want to walk into a store and buy
52:32
Speaker 1: the small condoms, so he wants to. I mean, he's
52:35
Speaker 1: he's working on the spray on condom, but he's also
52:37
Speaker 1: working on different sizes that I think are a little
52:39
Speaker 1: more Um, the packaging is a little less obvious, you know,
52:44
Speaker 1: it's not like you don't walk up and by like
52:46
Speaker 1: the teeny leany Well, he originally, you know, I think
52:50
Speaker 1: he wants to make it a little more clandestine. He
52:53
Speaker 1: originally set up this website, which is pretty cool, um,
52:56
Speaker 1: where you can download this measuring tape that you print
52:59
Speaker 1: out news and then you enter in your dimensions in
53:03
Speaker 1: the website and it brings up all of the condoms
53:07
Speaker 1: for sail in Germany that are likeliest to fit you best.
53:10
Speaker 1: This is pretty cool. Yeah. But now he's created the
53:13
Speaker 1: spray on condom. Yeah, here's how this thing works. You
53:17
Speaker 1: put your penis in a tube and its sprays from
53:21
Speaker 1: many different directions the condom latex onto your penis, your
53:26
Speaker 1: erect penis and um. Then it has to dry, which
53:30
Speaker 1: is one of the problems that it hisses when it sprays,
53:33
Speaker 1: So some dudes are worried that might ruin the mood. Um.
53:37
Speaker 1: Some guys were a little worried about putting their penis
53:39
Speaker 1: in this tube. Period and then um liquid latex takes
53:43
Speaker 1: about two to three minutes to vulcanize and in order
53:47
Speaker 1: for people to buy these things. He thinks it's gonna
53:50
Speaker 1: have to be ready in like five to ten seconds.
53:53
Speaker 1: So because it's like you better learn how to juggle
53:56
Speaker 1: or something to like keep the interest going for those
53:59
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Is that what does it juggling? Juggling
54:02
Speaker 1: or I don't know, maybe making an omelet. And then
54:05
Speaker 1: there are the anti rape condoms, which are controversial to
54:09
Speaker 1: say the least. A South African doctor came up with these,
54:13
Speaker 1: and they are like the female condom, but it's also like, um,
54:18
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but like the closest analogy
54:19
Speaker 1: is like a Chinese finger trap. Yeah, like that, once
54:23
Speaker 1: the totalist goes in, there's these plastic teeth that hold
54:27
Speaker 1: it in place, and only a doctor can remove this
54:32
Speaker 1: basically giant female condom that's now attached to your penis.
54:36
Speaker 1: And the reason she came up with this was because
54:38
Speaker 1: rape in South Africa is um out of control. Some
54:43
Speaker 1: survey from two thousand nine found that one in four
54:45
Speaker 1: South African men admit to raping a woman and that
54:49
Speaker 1: they think possibly one point four million women are raped
54:52
Speaker 1: in South Africa every year. That's the population of Phoenix.
54:55
Speaker 1: So this woman came up with this. It's basically like
54:57
Speaker 1: the female condom that will immediately inflict pain on the rapist.
55:04
Speaker 1: The woman can, I guess, get away, but the man
55:07
Speaker 1: stuck with this on right, and he has to go
55:09
Speaker 1: to the emergency room where hopefully the police will be
55:12
Speaker 1: there to arrest him. Well, the woman doesn't necessarily get away,
55:16
Speaker 1: which is one of the pitfalls that she admits to.
55:19
Speaker 1: It could encourage a violence against the woman in the
55:22
Speaker 1: moment um and another person from the c D c
55:28
Speaker 1: UH says that it's also a form of enslavement. It's
55:32
Speaker 1: um a constant reminder of a woman's vulnerability, um, and
55:37
Speaker 1: it gives them also a false sense of security. But
55:41
Speaker 1: the psychological trauma of the rape is still there. But
55:43
Speaker 1: at least you're going to catch the guy. Is just
55:46
Speaker 1: their rationale. And um, when people say that have told
55:49
Speaker 1: her this is a medieval thing that you're coming up with,
55:53
Speaker 1: she says, so is rape. So put that in your
55:56
Speaker 1: pipe and smoke it. Yeah, and that thing is called
55:59
Speaker 1: the rape act. Are a p hyphen a x E.
56:02
Speaker 1: And I believe it's right backs dot com maybe or
56:05
Speaker 1: something that takes you to the website. But if you
56:08
Speaker 1: type in rate backs into your search browser. That's gonna
56:12
Speaker 1: bring that up. Great, what else, Chuck, I don't have
56:15
Speaker 1: anything else. You don't want to talk about the goat condom?
56:19
Speaker 1: That's population control man, all right, let's talk about it
56:22
Speaker 1: like we are goats. To some people. There's a something
56:27
Speaker 1: called an oh lore that. Um it's basically this impediment
56:30
Speaker 1: that hangs from the abdomen of a male goat that
56:33
Speaker 1: keeps him from um, it's a barrier to prevent him
56:36
Speaker 1: from penetrating the female during intercourse, right, And they use
56:41
Speaker 1: this to control goat populations so that they don't starve.
56:44
Speaker 1: And it's not a you know, it's not something that
56:46
Speaker 1: goes on the penis. I think it's just a physical barrier,
56:51
Speaker 1: right that just like a male goat chastity belt that
56:56
Speaker 1: the goat knocks into called an olar. So thanks, thank
57:01
Speaker 1: God for that. Yeah, it's good though I'm crack wise,
57:05
Speaker 1: but better than starving goats. That is condoms. Well done,
57:11
Speaker 1: well done to YouTube, not much giggling. I wonder how
57:14
Speaker 1: many times we said penis paenis a bunch more than
57:21
Speaker 1: we ever have in a conversation. I would say I
57:24
Speaker 1: would say that's probably fairly accurate. I wonder if we
57:26
Speaker 1: topped that Sara Lives gets use of penis remember at
57:29
Speaker 1: the Nudist Camp. Oh yeah, with Kevin Nelon and Mike Myers.
57:33
Speaker 1: And that's great. Uh, let's see. If you want to
57:37
Speaker 1: know more about condoms, you can find this very thorough
57:40
Speaker 1: comprehensive article on the subject. By typing condom into the
57:44
Speaker 1: search bar how stuff works dot Com. You can also
57:47
Speaker 1: type in sex and reproduction and it'll bring up a
57:49
Speaker 1: lot of really good, well written, well researched articles that
57:54
Speaker 1: will probably answer a lot of questions you might have
57:56
Speaker 1: about that kind of thing. Yeah, I think we should
57:58
Speaker 1: start peppering these throughout. Do a little more sex ed
58:00
Speaker 1: here and there. Okay, it's good. Um you well, since
58:05
Speaker 1: we said sex said, since Chuck said sex said, you
58:08
Speaker 1: know what that means. You know what that means. It's
58:09
Speaker 1: time for listener mail. All right. UM, I'm gonna call
58:13
Speaker 1: this music experiment. Um, you guys are awesome. Been listening
58:17
Speaker 1: since about two thousand ten. Just listen to why does
58:20
Speaker 1: music provoke emotion? I thought I would share an experiment
58:23
Speaker 1: that I did a few years ago. I came up
58:25
Speaker 1: with the idea of listening to my music in sequential
58:28
Speaker 1: order by year of release. Remember this guy, Yeah, it's
58:30
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I don't have his name now I feel awful. Um.
58:33
Speaker 1: I started dividing it up by five years, and each
58:35
Speaker 1: five year period took about one and a half to
58:38
Speaker 1: two weeks. So he's basically only listening to that era
58:42
Speaker 1: in order, one at a time. So like the fifth
58:47
Speaker 1: week of September ninety two, which never existed like that,
58:54
Speaker 1: you well, just in order, like I'm listening to the
58:57
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties music for this week. So the whole thing,
59:01
Speaker 1: uh ended up taking about three and a half months,
59:03
Speaker 1: which is much longer than I planned. I'm a big
59:05
Speaker 1: music guy, and I started at around pre nineteen fifties.
59:09
Speaker 1: I should note that while I did this, I did
59:10
Speaker 1: my best to isolate myself musically. What is listening to
59:13
Speaker 1: anything else that wasn't from that period that I was
59:16
Speaker 1: in that week? It's kind of cool. I ended up
59:18
Speaker 1: being one of the most rewarding experience I've had in
59:20
Speaker 1: a long time. Aside from noticing many new things and
59:22
Speaker 1: songs that I had listened to countless times before, I
59:25
Speaker 1: feel like I began forming a connection with the time
59:28
Speaker 1: period of the music I was listening to. Even when
59:30
Speaker 1: I was wearing right now. At times, I could almost
59:35
Speaker 1: feel the angst or even excitement of events long past,
59:39
Speaker 1: as if I had lived them, events that weren't necessarily
59:41
Speaker 1: mentioned or addressed in the songs themselves. By the time
59:44
Speaker 1: I was done, I felt like I had traveled through time.
59:49
Speaker 1: I had a strange connection with events I had never experienced,
59:51
Speaker 1: except through the music that was popular at the time
59:54
Speaker 1: of those events. Many things that didn't make much sense
59:56
Speaker 1: to me musically, all of a sudden had a different significance.
1:00:00
Speaker 1: So thanks for the work guys. Definitely makes my drive
1:00:03
Speaker 1: to work a much more enjoyable. Thanks again, And I
1:00:06
Speaker 1: wish I had your name. Well, we'll read it if
1:00:08
Speaker 1: you send it in nice Okay, Yeah, so sorry Gary
1:00:11
Speaker 1: or Billy or Johnny or fred cole cole Um. Let's see,
1:00:16
Speaker 1: we don't want people's condom stories too, Yeah do we?
1:00:20
Speaker 1: Of course we do. It seems like a bad idea.
1:00:22
Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. Well then you guys
1:00:24
Speaker 1: for guys, we want your condom stories. Ladies, we want
1:00:27
Speaker 1: your condom stories. Okay, if you live in New York
1:00:30
Speaker 1: City and you can explain that's a good one of
1:00:32
Speaker 1: the condoms on the street inside walk, Although what's there
1:00:35
Speaker 1: to explain really well, I mean where they come from.
1:00:38
Speaker 1: Maybe they're coming up from the sewer when Oh, that's
1:00:40
Speaker 1: a good idea. Maybe they are, or or maybe they're
1:00:43
Speaker 1: being tossed out of cabs. Maybe they're from the roller rink. Anyway,
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