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Episode 165: Justin Herbert You Are A MOUSE!! · Play 4 Keeps Podcast

• Greg: He's solid. He's a solid quarterback. He's not top ten. Jax: He has potential, Greg: when does potential stop? at some point, this is year seven. we giving him more grace than niggas doing Jordan Love, he was in that same draft class and he had to sit behind Aaron Rodgers for two and a half seasons. This is really his third and fourth season for real. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Where are these fans coming from? Jax: y'all are fans of Justin Herbert, not the Chargers. Like, Greg: I don't see y'all niggas at the game. They keep showing that same Asian lady in the fucking booth. Y'all know what I'm talking about? LA Charger fans. I'm not buying it. You've been hearing that the Forty Niners are hesitant of putting Nick Bosa on IR? Jax: yeah, 'cause they ran out of they don't got no spots on injured reserve. Greg: They damn near ran out of fucking I was like, damn. Jax: I didn't know that was possible. Greg: Literally. And then I saw that long ass list. I was like, do all of them need to be on IR? You can cut some of these niggas. For Nick Bosa? Move move one of these niggers. Jax: I mean, can you though? Cause you cut you cut. I mean you cut one of them and then boom, now somebody else get hurt. And maybe he would maybe the guy you cut was supposed to come back from the injury now. Like I don't know. They I don't know if they have enough bodies to just cut people, even if they're hurt. Cause they just keep I don't Greg: Damn. Jax: know what it is. They just keep dying. Which if I was Kowsh, Greg: It's tough. Jax: if I n if I was the own well, the owner got bigger fish to fry right now, but if I if he didn't have bigger fish to fry, I would have been fired the the athletic trainer and stuff like that. 'Cause it's just year after year after year. Nothing's changing. Greg: But if I'm the athletic trainer or whatever the fuck, my counter argument is Like how how do you want me to compete with this substack station, my nigga? Like I I'm I can only do so much. Jax: I mean valid, but shit, let's find the athletic train. We need we need some new ideas. We need some new ideas in the building. Greg: Niggas say we a and we say we need a new voice in the locker room. Jax: Literally Literally. That's that's what these people need, bro. Greg: Hell da. I get it, but I don't what I do. I mean Honestly, yeah, send honestly send that nigga to New Orleans. I wanna see how bad he is. Jax: And you know the funny thing is, like the New Orleans Saints and the Pelicans, they're owned by the same people and they like share like the same medical staff and blah blah blah. But you Greg: Yeah. Jax: know what you hear about the like Saints players do get hurt, yes. But you don't hear about them as much as like Pelicans players being hurt and stuff. You don't hear about Saints player injury woes like that, which is very weird considering it's football, but I don't know. Greg: Which is cra maybe that that shows maybe that tells me that they are more focused in in football. They're more focused on doing their jobs. They just get overworked once they gotta add the Pelicans. Jax: Honestly. Yeah, honestly 'cause if I yeah, if was the own whoever owned I don't remember who owns the Saints, but I was them, I would focus more on football too, actually. Greg: Yeah, 'cause obviously football's gonna bring you in more money. Football is king. You know what I mean? And then the Pelicans, look, y'all not even making proper Jax: And the Pelicans ain't never been. Pelicans ain't never been shit for real. Greg: moves for me to even feel like I need to do my job right now. Jax: I don't know what the hell the Pelicans are doing. And it pisses me off every single time I think about it. Cause blow just blow it up, bro. Like it's not gonna work. Blow it up. Start over. And they refuse to do that. And they have all these players that would flourish on other teams. Players that team like teams would kill for Herb Jones. Like the Lakers, they have no defense. They would love to have Herb Jones on their roster right now. Like Trey Murphy is a borderline all-star type player. Like people would love to have him on their team. Even Zion, who is never really healthy, but some somebody would take Zion. He's still Zion. I don't get I don't understand what they're doing. It's it's frustrating to think about. Greg: Yeah, but as a you know, as a owner, like that's like telling me to get rid of my bad bitch. Like your bad bitch would be happier without you. Man, I can fix I can change her. That's how niggas is moving right now. Jax: No, you you clearly can't. You clearly can't. Cause she she's cheating. She wearing wearing less, going out more, all that. She's doing all that crazy stuff, bro. And you just know I Greg: She's stepping out on you. Jax: can I can fix her. I can change her. Like, no, you you clearly can't. You clearly can't. She don't want to be there no more. Greg: And on top of that, she's not being vocal about leaving. That's the problem. Somebody gotta be vocal. Jax: Like you Greg: Zion ain't been like, Well, I I I gotta leave this. I gotta request. I'm disgruntled. Jax: Ain't that? Zion Zion's a bad bitch in this equation? Zion's a bad bitch in this equation? Greg: Well, any of them. Jax: Okay. Greg: He d he he d he he the power forward, I'll tell you that. But this this niggas Nah, whoever hey, pick your poison, whoever it if you wanna say Jeremiah Fears, Trey Murphy, whoever. Jax: Like I'm like I'm the people I'll keep Jerma obviously Jer I think Jeremiah Fears is good. So I'm keeping him Derrick Greg: Yeah. Jax: Queen. I'm keeping him 'cause he's young and pop maybe Derek Queen could improve on defense. Like if he can do that just a little bit so he's not like a net negative, then like okay, I can rock with him. But I don't know, bro. Greg: Everybody else is up for grabs. Jax: Duncan just pissed me off. Yeah. Yeah. Greg: I w I I would make some type of deal with Milwaukee or something. I don't know, bro. Do something. You not even make a small trade. Jax: They just keep acquiring. Like, didn't they just add Buddy Healed, right? Like what the fuck are we doing? Wait, no. They got somebody. What's it Buddy Healed? I don't know. Cause Buddy Heal went to Greg: They got buddy. Jax: somebody. Greg: Buddy Hill did go to somebody. I'm not sure where he went. Jax: They did something. I gotta f now I gotta figure this out. Greg: Somebody did no, I think it went to Charlotte. I think he went to Charlotte, I think. Somebody with the Charlotte. Jax: Okay, I'm tripping. The Pelican signed Julian Angel Reese's brother, Julian Reese. And Jordan Poole. Jordan Poole's already on the team, never Greg: Wasn't he already no, he was a he was in Washington. Jax: Yeah. Greg: so another power for. Jax: What are we doing here? Like what are we doing here, bro? Greg: And that nigga get and and that nigga get the boards. He's gonna earn this cube. That's crazy. Jax: If you could like c combine Julian Reese with like with like Jaron Jackson Junior, you'd have an amazing player. Greg: W NBA player? What you want? Jax: I said an amazing but if you combine Julian Reese with Jaron Jackson Junior, he'd be great. Greg: I thought you it was it was choppy on my end. I thought you said Julian Jax: Okay. Greg: Reese that Julian Reese with Jaron Jaron Jackson shooting. I was like, you want and I was just like you Jax: Yeah, that's it. Greg: want a dubb I was like you want a W NBA that's why I said you want a W NBA player? Jax: my god. Well, let's start the show. Greg: You say you want you want Angel Reese with a jumper. Jax: She's starting she's starting to shoot now. She's starting to shoot now. Greg: No, that is, for sure. You want Julia he want Angel Reese with a with a hezzy pull? That sounds dangerous. Jax: Exactly. Exactly. Greg: Hell no, what's w Where's my shit at? I'm losing losing recipes. What'd a gun at? Man, welcome back to another episode of the Play for Keats podcast, the only podcast where we do something different every single day. Not an hour, not an episode. This is a daily thing. New York City is underwater. Please stand up. There's underwater. I'm tr Jax: It's like that up there. Greg: I'm telling you right now. I if I I'll probably show you a video later. But they had them niggas canoeing d I'm seeing niggas canoe in the street like like it's Hurricane Harvey. I did not know it was that bad. Jax: I did not know it was like I know someone like that. Greg: I'm safe for now. These other Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: these other niggas. We pray for But I like that I knew it was bad when niggas was telling me, hey, you wanna to stay home. I was like, I'm off today, but thanks for telling me. And I was ghost Hey, Jax: I w I was gonna do that anyway, but thanks for the heads up. Greg: I was gonna stay safe regardless. And and I'm thinking it's gonna be like some, you know, consistent rain or whatever. I'm looking at New York Jax: Yeah. Greg: City, I'm like, didn't. I didn't even know some of you niggas owe canoes. Jax: Why do you y why do you have one in yeah, why do you have a canoe in New York? Why do you why do you have that? Greg: A paddle. I didn't know that was a thing for you. I mean, I guess we are Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: by I I guess we are by the shore. Like if you drive you drive far enough to the right, you'll get to the to the ocean at some point, I guess, but still, the city? Jax: I think it is. Greg: The city, nigga. but this is a podcast for casuals. If you are a casual, this is the show for you. get through the donations donations donations here comes a month Here comes the money. Man. Y'all like, comment, share. The link is down below for those who want to partake and doing your part, like Dejaon Lowe said. we got things to talk about. But before we go into the things we care about, we gotta go to the things. We do not care. We just do not care about. First thing up on the things we do not, shall not. Will not care about first. Kawhi gets another bag. Think he signed a two year extension? Clap it up. Jax: Congratulations. He just he keeps he keeps getting away with it. He keeps getting away with it. Greg: This is like a is is this like Kirk Cousins level? Of bag of bag chaser. Jax: It's it's more than Kirk Cus is it's more than Kirk Cousins because well we don't know I I'm beyond I seen the Kirk Cut the what when he was on the what Netflix shows and quarterback, he don't seem like he was the type to take money under the table. So I don't think I think he's more of a bag chaser than Kirk Cousins, to be honest with you. And he's ran up a much bigger bag and he keeps getting an insane hundred million dollar bag. So I say he's this this over I don't know if we've seen a bag chaser like this. Only maybe only Michael Jordan. Probably Mike and the Greg: What I come. Jax: Mike and Kawhi up there. Greg: Okay. Yeah, nigga did go nigga did go across the country to go get a bag. Not a lot of people can say they did that. So fairs. So faris. So fares, real quick. We do not care. Next thing up. A B, the real A B, gets a plea deal. I'm I'm trying to figure out who the other A B you was talking about. I'm gonna be honest with you. Jax: the other A B, the the the drunk one that be fighting and stuff, that's the fake A B. The real Antonio Brown, the real A B. I mean Greg: Call that nigga. I I call that nigga Adrian Broner. I don't never call that nigga. Jax: I seen people start when people start calling him A B, I was like, and that's not like that's not Antonio Brown, but I was like, okay, I guess people can call him that. But yeah, but Antonio Brown, he took a plea deal in a attempted murder charge. I forget where he was exactly, but it was. Greg: Ooh, should Jax: He was hosting, fight broke out. He was fighting with some guy. Dude ran. He took a security guard's gun, started shooting at him. Missed the guy. I think he they say he grades the dude's neck, but other than that, he didn't really hit him. yeah, he he got they say he they offered him a a deal he could not refuse. So he or they gave him an offer he could not refuse. So he took that deal. So I think he only has to do like probation or something like that. we'll see when the full sentencing comes out. But CTE, man. C T E. Crazy. Greg: Bigger than C T, but it started with C T. Jax: Yeah, you like. Greg: Definitely started with CTE. We do not care. Next thing we do not care about. Jalen Durin. Jax: We've talked about him at length. he keeps making decisions that make us disappoint in him. He recently turned down a was it five year, two hundred million dollar offer. It was either five or four. I can't remember the exact years, but he was supposed to get a Greg: Five yeah, five years, two hundred mil, for sure. Jax: five year okay, yeah. He turned but yeah, he turned down a five year, two hundred million dollar. Like, you're not getting that anywhere else. They say he's gonna take the qualifying offer I cannot remember what the qualifying offer was, but it's Greg: Nine point eight. Jax: okay, nine point eight. So they say that's what it's looking like he's gonna end up taking. So going from 200 million dollars to nine point eight, I don't know why you do that. I guess you don't wanna be with the Pistons, blah, blah, blah. But still get the money and then make it weird and force a trade. Like that's how that's how you're supposed to do that. Like, I don't understand. Greg: Yeah, well you're not gonna get he's not gonna get like this told me that it it's not about the money. He just wants to be out of there. Because even if he was to leave, the max he could make, whatever that max whoever whoever's team that is, whatever team that he goes to, the max he can get is like one one ninety-eight mil for five years, which is right around what you're gonna make with this current offer here. Five years, Jax: Yeah. Greg: two hundred. and that's if you're in a forgiving state, God forbid you want to go to Sacramento, which is where everybody says you wanna be. You're not getting Jax: Which is Greg: that four one ninety eight, my brother. Luca Luca's pissed right now. Jax: Yeah. And also like, with all due respect, like you better hope you have a great season too. Like that's really the main like hope you have a good season. Hope you have a healthy season and hope 'cause y'all are more than likely gonna make the playoffs. Hope you actually hoop in the play 'cause that was really the main issue with this whole thing. You were you were a mouse in the playoffs. You didn't do nothing in the playoffs. You were a detriment to your team in the playoffs. So you better hope you can good season, healthy season, and good in the playoffs. And then, you know, you might get that one ninety eight. You might get that. So Jen I don't know why Greg: And Jax: you made this decision, but whatever, dude. Greg: And you better hope not only that your team is good, because he's at a position where the offense doesn't go through him. So Jax: Yeah. Greg: he benefits when the team benefits. So you better hope the team is still good and you better hope and pray that everybody is healthy on your team, your main core people. Cause if God forbid any one of them star players go down, they're Jax: Yeah. Greg: gonna take it out on you too. Like you not gon' flourish the way you need to be flourishing. And then when it's time to shut down, yeah, you getting shut down too, nigga. Because now you're a protected asset if we just gotta punt the season. So Jax: And you also better hope you make an all NBA team. Cause like you made one cause you did do grid in the regular season this year. He made an all NBA team. But like it was only third team All NBA. So you almost didn't make the all NBA team. I'm not saying like I'm saying I'm not acting like he was ass or anything, but like you were a third team All NBA player. Greg: Nigga, you this nigga was a Giannis and Jokic away from not even getting the the third All NBA at this moment. Jax: Yeah, like if if them other if them other players just played more games, you probably wouldn't have made it. I mean not even you wouldn't have made it, period. Yeah, so Greg: Yeah, and then what and then what we talk and then what we talking about. All because your max technically cap is at two hundred and eighty seven million. Jax: Yeah. Greg: And ja yeah, and and I w I won't I won't spend too much time on it. But when we're talking about favorite ops, politically, John Kennedy is is up there with me. Like when it comes to a favorite op. I be listening to this nigga and I don't like where he stands in in in a nation of politics, but this nigga is fucking hilarious when he talks. And that nigga said I remember that nigga saying one thing. He was just like stupidity is just like pornography. And he was just like, it's kind of it's kind of hard to explain it, but you know it when you see it. Jax: What the fuck? Greg: This is stupidity. That is an actual quote that nigga said. I'm dying laughing when this nigga says it. But I feel like this relates to J Jalen Durant. Nigga, I know what stupidity looks like. I d I can't I don't have to describe it in words. I don't have to give you a clear definition. I can point to something and this is stupid. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Use your common sense. Fuck out of here. Crazy. We do not care. Jax: I don't I don't I don't know the end goal, but whatever dude. Greg: I don't think he knows. I don't think he knows they didn't go. Hell no. next we have Steph Curry being blind the whole time and it leading to an extension on this deal. Jax: Yeah, so Steph, well Steph he did sign he just signed a two year, hundred sixty million dollar deal with the Warriors. He said he wants to be there for the rest of his career, just probably make sure he is. he's left in the Mac so they still have a little bit of room. But he's really on this we do not care because he was giving like a story to People magazine and he said during the dynasty run, I it was twenty seventeen, he was actually having like blurred vision the whole time and like a couple of the coaching staff and the GM, they like saw him on the bench and he'd be like squinting and everything, and they're like, Is something wrong with you? And he was like, No, I don't think so. But he was actually diagnosed with a progressive eye condition that deteriorates his vision over time called. Karato Kunis. Karatokunis. I'm not sure how to pronounce it. But yeah, he's had this debilitating eye condition this entire time. And he said he gets his eyes checked every you know six months and everything like that. But no, Steph Curry's low keeping blind this whole time while also being the greatest shooter ever. So who would have thought? That's that's how you know it's just God given. That's how you know it's just God given, bro. Greg: Literally. I remember cause I I do remember some years ago that nigga had I don't know if he had LASIK, there was something that happened where there was like, yeah, he had to like correct his eyes or something in the off season. And niggas Jax: Yeah, I do act yeah, I remember that now. I didn't say that. Greg: were just like, This nigga was shooting like this blunt. I was like, Yeah, this nigga's fucking nuts. Imagine if Jax: Okay. Greg: this nigga had real vision. Jax: Shooting fifty percent from three. Well shoot, he damn near sue fifty percent for three already. Greg: He damn near there. Hey, this nigga might be on some seventy-five percent, ninety-eight percent true shooting. Jax: Steph is not Steph not an Steph's not a regular human being. Greg: Yeah, yeah, he might yeah, he might be a clear vision. He might surpass Brown but clear vision. He came to the league with clear vision, we might have some uncomfortable conversation. Cause that's crazy. Hell Jax: Yeah. Yeah yeah. Greg: no. but you know, shout out to him for for getting that bag, getting that bag. And speaking of people that make me think of Vladimir Putin, we do not care. Vladdy, Vladdy Jr., MLB. had some things to say as he was not performing well during his During his recent contract stint with the Blue Jays. Let me share my screen real quick. And came out with this quote: they didn't pay me to hit forty every year. They paid me for what I already did. Jax: Unfortunately that is a bar. I'm not even necessarily saying I agree with it, but I'm also not saying I don't agree with it. Like, I don't know how I feel about it. I'm not gonna lie to you. Greg: it's it's a bar, a selfish bar, though. It's a selfish bar, understanding bad teammate, Jax: Yes. Bad teammate. Bad teammate. Greg: but you're not not even a bad just a bad teammate. You're a bad MLB team player, understanding that we're entering a lockout. We're entering a Jax: Ha ha Greg: lockout, and this is the things you are saying. In the monst owners that are white men with egos. And you think they just not gonna dig their heels in these negotiations after hearing some shit like this? Because hey, there's a lot of things that white owners will let slide, obviously. One thing they not gonna let slide or not gonna be fond with is a nigga that's a darker shade than them, letting the public know how much they finessed. The, you know, like and and just and low-key gloating about it. Hey, yo, look. And and to put it in perspective, to put it in perspective, the way he's performing, it is really bad. But I don't think people understand how bad it is from a basketball, not even basketball, because we have somebody perfect for the football. For football. Just imagine if Deshaun Watson playing like he's playing, said this publicly and said, hey, look, the Browns. didn't give me 230 guaranteed for what I can do in the future. They're telling they they did that for what I have already done. Mind you, what you've already done was in another jersey. Same thing with Vladdy. They paid this nigga after having a good season, great seasons at other places. And then when it came to this stop right here, you had one little decent season. They gave you a boatload of money, fourteen years, five hundred million dollars, they gave this man, Jax: That's crazy. Greg: and you are playing just like the baseball equivalent to a Deshaun Watson. One my ass, why was you even why are we giving out fourteen year deals to begin with? Is what Jax: That's the cra 14 is crazy. So you s like granted they're probably if he keep being cheap, they're gonna make some move, trade him, et cetera. But like fourteen years isn't like what the heck? Fourteen is crazy. Fourteen is Greg: Obviously they want more Bobby Bonilla's in this world because Jax: crazy. Greg: I don't think he's gonna be playing for fourteen fucking years. Jax: No, I don't think Vladdy's old, isn't he? I think he's might Greg: But I don't think he that goddamn young either. Jax: I think he might be like twenty seven, maybe. Let me see, actually. Vladdy Jr. is. Yeah, he's twenty seven. I mean so he could, I guess, play fourteen more years, but like Yeah, no, he's not. Like you what I mean, it's like he's not. Like Greg: Which is why niggas on the ownership side is saying, Hey, when will enough be enough? We need a fucking cap. and if you're on Jax: That's so. Greg: the side of the players, you're not looking at Vladdy and like Vladdy's not helping your situation right now, nigga. He's not. And he keeps doubling down. He keeps saying, I I say what I said. Hey, he don't he don't care. Jax: I mean he the the check already in his the the money already in his bank account. He can say what he wants. Like nobody can Greg: He can. Jax: stop you can't stop him from getting that money. The money's already he already got the money. It's fully guaranteed. You can't you can't do nothing to stop him from saying anything now. He won. Greg: He won at what cost? yeah, I bet he sleeps. Jax: Five five hundred million, that's the cost. Greg: Real quick, real quick, We do not care. A quote, another John Kennedy quote. He was like, somebody asked me how's how well I sleep at night knowing that so many people dislike me. He said, What the fan on? What the fan on? I hate when Republicans make me chuckle, nigga. I'm not gonna lie to you, but listen. Jax: I I don't get how people can listen to RFK's voice and just 'cause I hate his voice. I don't get how people can even listen to him, bro. It I don't understand. I don't understand. Greg: Don't get it either. I promise. I promise I don't. But now that we've got that out the way, let's get into the main topics, starting with Protecting college sports. Are we really protecting college sports, Jax? Jax: The answer is no. I don't even know or I guess I know why they're doing it 'cause the NCAA's not doing their job 'cause they suck at everything. But you know, they've been going back and forth and forth and back with this whole Protect College Sports Act. That will Put a cap on what college players can earn, add regulations for NIL and agents, add regulations for eligibility and transfers and blah, blah, blah. It's one of those type of things. And recently, I believe I can look at the data. I don't care. I think it was the 23rd. Senator Corey Booker and Chris Murphy, they filed an amendment to the Protect College Sports Act to cap college coaching salaries at $5 million a year. They're saying of the 35-plus amendments filed, most of them have little chance of being. accepted and there's been a whole lot of backlash to this amendment in particular because a lot of people for whatever reason just love defending the establishment and they're like my gosh you can't you can't cap what coaches make that's unfair five million dollars a year what and there like there's been a whole lot of backlash about that on the internet and it's just like very hypocritical because you're trying to cap what the players can make what the people who are actually on the field putting their lives and bodies on the line can make You want to cap what they can make, but not what the coaches can make. And these coaches are making a shoot, I can't even tell you how much money they're making, because they're making a whole lot. Whether it be Lane Kiffin, whether it be Nick Saban in his prime, cause he was making a disgusting bag. Dabo Sweeney's making crazy money. And they all have like insane, like $100 million buyouts, etc. Greg: Right. Jax: So it's just like, what are we doing here? Like why even like w that's really just my main quote. Like what what are we doing here? If you wanna get mad for, you know, capping coat salaries, but not get mad at the like how do you how do you just not see the hypocrisy? That's really what's bothered me about this whole thing. How do you not see the hypocrisy? Greg: They don't give a fuck about the hypocrisy. That's the problem. They they could care less that it's hypocrisy. They just, hey. Hell no. What don't don't don't put us into in in in this situation. But look. Hey, what's good for the goose needs to be good for the gander. I think that I think this matriculates down to the NFL as well or up to the NFL as well. Because I think at some point if you don't regulate it, you're getting salaries that are getting too close to what the average deals are in the NFL. And it's gonna look crazy if you having college players make more, like significantly more than like the starters. Like it's one thing for the p it's it's one thing for you to like be making more than like the practice squad niggas. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Or the backups. But I do remember when B. John Robinson was making more college NIL money than the average, like starting running back that was already in the league, which would make the NFL have no choice but to raise everything up for them. And owners already being stingy. They not trying to raise it. So they're like, hey, yo, fix this. So that we don't have to address our own problems. I do think that there there is some pressure from NFL people to kind of get this NCAA thing under control as well. Cause I I I think it's gonna hurt them if they continue to let it be the wild, wild west and just allow people to just however much money we can give a nigga, go give it, you know. Jax: I don't know. I don't know necessarily if I agree with that completely. I do think that the NFL wants, you know, college sports to get their stuff together. So, 'cause they don't want, you know, the contracts getting too high in the colleges and blah blah blah. But I st I don't think it's gonna I don't think the average college star or whatever's gonna end up making that much 'cause like, you know, like people like my homes and stuff like that is making like their the college contracts will never be able to touch that type of money. So I don't necessarily know if I agree. All that much mm. Greg: Yeah, I mean, I I feel like nobody's gonna touch quarterback, buddy. But these skill Jax: Okay, okay. Greg: positions will get too the it is it's very obtainable for some of these niggas, especially at the skill position, to start making Jax: Okay, yeah then. Greg: comfortable money unless you're a superstar like Pastor Tan or or the edge rushers. Jax: Okay, yeah, I Greg: But like but you know, you know how you know how like low how lowly they treat the running back position. Like that's that's gonna be Jax: That's true. That is very true. Greg: easy for a For other college, especially if you a star running back for Alabama or Texas or Tennessee, Jax: Yeah, they'll sh they'll love you. They'll love you. Greg: they'll hey they they will lap. They will lap. Hey, because it w all I gotta do is just pay him this for like four years. Three years if he's that nice. Jax: Not even three yeah, three, not even for three years. Greg: Yeah, they'll gladly just throw away the money. That's fine. Versus an owner, it's like, yo, this is coming out of my pocket, type shit. All right, nigga. Now they're more lenient. Now they want to put you on a on a franchise tag. Nah, they'll treat a running back like King in college. Jax: Yeah. That's a r that's really that's really running back prime years in college 'cause in the NFL that body just be breaking down. Unless Greg: Yeah. Jax: unless you're Derek Henry, 'cause he's he's inevitable. He's not breaking down for for anything. But other than him, yeah. Greg: That is that is like the largest outlier I've ever seen with my own two eyes. Cause they ran that they ran that nigga de Jax: Like he was getting like two thousand carries in high school. Greg: They n they ran that nigga down in high school. Jax: And then they ran him down in college. And then they ran him down in the and and he's still going. So I don't I don't understand Derek. Derrick Henry's not a real person either. He's not a real person. Greg: This nigga Kryptonite is just holding on to the football as an older age. Like his body not breaking down. He just don't have the same type of grip on the football. That's crazy. What the fuck? Jax: Like his wrist must just be getting weaker or something like that. Like that's that's that's the only thing like I guess. Greg: Some minute detail in his thumb. Get the fuck out of here. No. Jax: But nah, this whole this whole college sports acting like I don't I really don't think it's gonna get passed, to be honest. Like I know a lot of people, you know, especially like people like Nick Saban and all the people on the all the all the people on the ESPN college game day, they want it to be passed. But I really don't think it will. I don't think it w they're going to try their damnedest, but I don't think it will. But I mean we we will see. We will see. Greg: yeah, we'll see. I'm I'm kind of 50-50 on it, on like well, I I a hundred percent disagree with the the college at like what they have in place right now, like what they're trying to promote or thing. Jax: Of course yeah, it's yeah. Greg: But I am 50-50 on if it's gonna go through or not. Like some days I'm like, okay, like this might end up going through, or every once in a while I'll hear a take, or I'll hear somebody on television. I'm like, Maybe it won't. I I can't it's kinda hard for me. It depends on how how it gets voted. But right now, if you was to ask me today, I I I I I see it getting passed. I don't know. Jax: But as we move on, could you hear that siren in the background? Greg: no, I didn't hear any sound. Jax: Okay, there's a siren in the background. I was like, this is very this very fitting because we gotta talk about all these all these injuries in the NFL because it's it's been weeks Greg: God damn. Yeah, he's right. Jax: it's only week two, and we talked a little bit earlier about the forty niners and all their injuries, but they're just perpetually injured, so are we surprised? No. But You got it. Greg: All right, we good 'cause my my my shit was about to die. Hold on. We good though. Jax: But like I said, that's iron the siren was fitting though, because we gotta talk about these injuries in the NFL. I don't under like it's only week two, and yeah, we talked a little about the 49ers, but they're always injured, so that's what what's new with that. But I don't know, it feels like everybody just died last week. Starting with like the Caleb Williams thing, that was funny because I mean it's not funny that he got hurt. It was funny that people It's not funny that he got hurt, but it's funny that people were making jokes about his injury and it just turned out he, you know, they card him off and everything and he was crying and blah, blah, blah. But it just turned out he just pulled like his hamstring or whatever. So he's he's weak to weak. So we can laugh at that. It's not the memes are funny, but Greg: Yeah, they've been tur they turn everything into a me. Jax: Yeah, but everybody else though. Everybody else was dying. let's see. Who got hurt? Just to run down a couple names real fast. like I said, Caleb Williams, he got hurt with the hamstring. Jackson Dart. They he got hurt. They wanted to say it was they didn't think it was serious at first, but it turns out he's gonna be out for the season. I think it was he might have tore his MCL, I believe. It wasn't the ACL. So he Greg: Yes. Yeah, MCL. Jax: tore his MCL. Jaden Daniels, his elbow fell out of place again when he fell and he tried to brace his fall, then his elbow just fell out on the ground. Everybody was like, my gosh, Tom Brady said shit on national television. Then he apologized. who else got hurt? I think Tucker Kraft got hurt. what were you gonna say? Greg: Believe Man, who else? I mean, we already talked about we already talked about Miles Garrett already. I feel like there was somebody else that I was missing. Mm, Michael Pennings finally came back. Jax: Yeah, Michael Penny's came back. But there we go. But Jackson Dark got hurt. Jane Jan is K Lou and Saquon, he got hurt. I don't know what his injury was, but he played a little bit and then he went out and then he tried to come back and he just didn't really wasn't effective. Alec Pierce, he hurt his heel, which was the same heel. He had surgery on in the offseason. Jaden Reed got hurt, Dallas Goddard got hurt, DJ Moore. I think DJ Moore got hurt like real bad, low key. Greg: Yeah, it was b it was pretty bad. Jax: And then Mike Evans, he's low-key old to like you well, Mike Evans, you sort of expect him to get hurt. And he's also with the 49ers. But still, nigga, it's like everybody and their mama got hurt, bro. I don't know what's going on. But it's like, do you think like, Greg: Yeah, bro. Jax: why do you think stuff like this is happening? Do you think it's happening more often, or is just now we have social media and everything is more visible and blah, blah, blah. Greg: I mean, you already know where I'm going with it. You know? I feel like, I feel like shit start upticking when we start, when we start taking preseason seriously. That's how I be feeling about it. It just, every time we start a decrease of preseason, all of a sudden we having freak injuries. And people want to people always want to like not correlate it, but it's just like, I'm not saying that these professional athletes. Or not doing what it needs to, you know, doing what it needs to take to like be prepared or be ready. And I'm not trying to compare them to like the average person. But like even when the average person just jumps out and tries to go do something athletic, if they're if they're not prepared enough, if I just go out right now, yeah, now Jax: If their body's not ready. Greg: you're gonna pull something. I go play basketball right now and don't stretch at my age. Yeah, nigga, we gonna have some issues, bitch. I remember Jax asked me, when's the last time I dunked? I was like, man, it's been a minute. I'm gonna have to count on one more than one more than one hand when that shit happened. But I know I can do it. It would just have to take extreme amount of stretching. I'm not finna just go up with all my might right now. I'm finna lose mad shit in my hamstrings and calves. And I will obliterate something right now, trying to do some shit like that. So if that's how it is for me, yeah, I I can see plenty of people in the NFL, you know, not using the preseason to just further warm themselves up, further get themselves used to the to the physical because they not they we not pra we're not practicing like we used to. We're not out here hitting hard. Jax: Sure. Greg: We're not we doing all the precautions necessary to make sure, especially with quarterbacks, don't hit the quarterback, don't hit the red jersey, don't hit X, Y, and Z. And now you gotta wait until week one and everybody is on 10. Everybody is all hamped up. It's the start of the season. Everybody feels like they have a chance to do something the in on the first week. And then come week two, now everybody shit falling off the bone. Now everybody shit is just not used to what's going on. I s I I feel the same way with basketball. any any sport that doesn't take shit seriously. Like I I and I get I get why. I get why we have the precautions that we have for football, because we know the long-lasting effects of what can happen when you just continue to put your body in in in danger. So I I'm not trying to sit here and act like I don't understand, but I feel like that that's the side effects of of precaution. Like saving your life or extending your life an additional 10 years because we want to preserve your body will give us bad football and injuries. on the front end of the na the right here and right now. So that's that's kinda how I feel about it. Jax: And then one one injury I also forgot to mention was the Bears backup quarterback, Tyson Bajan. He has a concussion. So this means that Greg: well. Jax: this upcoming week it will be Case Keenum as this Bears starting quarterback. I didn't even I thought Case had retired, so I didn't even know. Greg: Damn, he's still out here. I did not know he was still out here. Boy, if yeah, if that nigga don't start going into the University Houston booth and and and doing some TV analyst gigs, nigga. Why is he still doing this? Jax: mean, because people keep giving him a bag, so why not? But Greg: You are right. Jax: talking about some of the injuries just a little bit more before we move on. Jaden Daniels, we saw his injury. It was honestly people are like, my gosh, it was so horrific. I didn't think like it was it was bad, but it was like horrific and all that. But anyways, that's the second time his same elbow is on his non-throwing arm, it popped out of place on some like completely casual type stuff. Jay or Jane Daniels, he said that he doesn't want to get a surgery on it that could, you know, just make sure it doesn't happen again. he said he's not really down with that. What are your how do you feel about that? Greg: there was something said in our group chat that I can't say on here. said by Steven. But I agree with what Steven said. I can't say it out loud, and you replied Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: to it. You replied to it with invisible ink, so you know exactly what I'm talking about. And I absolutely agree Jax: Exactly. Greg: one thousand percent with what that nigga said. unfortunately for our audience, I won't I won't dispose. I can't, I can't. But on on all Jax: Okay. Greg: seriousness in all seriousness, I can understand why he feels that way because you're all you're starting to build a track record for these niggas to use against you. And this was supposed to be a big year for you to kind of like a back and and and credit to him. Jax: And I think he's listed as like week to week or whatever. I think he's still listed. Greg: Yeah, like and credit to him, like that first half of that game, nigga was hooping. Like that that nigga looked great. Jax: you know, that if he if he didn't get hurt, they was gonna win. Greg: I ain't gonna lie. I didn't want to say it, but nigga, yeah. It was gonna be a a shootout for sure. No defense was getting played on either side of the football. Jax: Yeah. Listen. Greg: And I'm just scared that I don't want it to turn into an RG3 situation. That's all. And I know it's the I know it's not the I know an elbow is different from a knee. I get all that stuff. But just I don't want him to rush back. I want him to make, I want to make sure, hey, whenever he's ready, he like he's comfortable with being ready instead of the pressures of, he need to, he need get back next week or nah I I need to toughen this out. Man, no. We didn't, especially with this organization, we didn't seen it before. And Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: you are one more bad injury away from. Somebody in that organization saying, Hey, maybe we need to learn Trinidad Chambers. Jax: I'm like, I'm that's low key what I'm already starting to think. Like if he if he got if he suffers one granted, like this is non-throwing elbow, but if he suffers like one more, like his elbow trip, Greg: Come on now. Exactly, bro. Jax: I think they're gonna be like, you know what? We're gonna especially if Greg: Or or you can be able to at least cause it is is you're at that pivotal moment where okay, we can still sell a little high on Jax: Yeah. Greg: Jaden Daniels. He still has great value. If we keep him and commit to him, once we get to a point in overturn, now we're talking about, damn, now I gotta give this nigga now. I gotta attach a pick to him to get him get him off the books or whatever, or what whatever the case may be. Or now he has the injury-prone label and I had to pay that tax. If he gets injured one more time. Yo, move. Move him, man. Move him. And that's a tough pill to swallow. Jax: I just know. Cause he's cause he's not he's not bad. He just Greg: He's good. Jax: he just cannot for whatever reason he's just not very healthy. But I just know when he comes back, he if he's not wearing a brace, move off of him. He just need to at least come back. When you come back, he need to be he need to have an arm brace on at the at the bare minimum. At the bare minimum. Greg: And and respectfully, respectfully, respectfully, when it comes to the quarterback or any position in football, but I I don't need my quarterbacks built slim like KD playing football. Exactly, which is why I wouldn't draft him. I would not draft niggas Jax: That's something you can't really do nothing about. Like sometimes people just do it. Fair enough. Greg: that are built a certain way. I don't know if he had any injury history in college like that. I don't I don't know. I've kind of forgot. Jax: I don't think he he might Greg: I don't remember. Jax: have had I don't think he had like elbow injured. I think he might have had an ACL. I could be wrong about that, but I do know he was always like he was always getting smacked like a Looney Tunes character. I know that. Greg: That nigga yeah, that nigga was putting his body on the line and this nigga looked like he was just getting Jax: Yeah. Greg: tossed left and right. That nigga was like do a jump. He would jump into somebody and just get hammered by the defense. I'm like, nigga, why first of all, why did you Jax: Like you c you could you could g sorta get away with that in car and he did get away with that in car. This is the NFL now. These niggas will kill you. Greg: I'm saying you can't do that. What the fuck you what you mean? Lower your stout shoulder, nigga. What are you talking about? Yeah, so not not to say that this shit is concerning. I mean, it is concerning, but like I said, we're one more injury away this season. from from Yeah, you gotta Jax: Yeah. If if he gets hurt again this season, you gotta you gotta do something. Greg: you gotta do something, bro. And I think he knows that too. Jax: But we're having this conversation. I remember I texted you about it, but I wanna bring it here real fast because we move on to this next topic. But would you rather have a Jaden Daniels elbow or Michael Penix knee? Greg: Yeah. Jax: Just because Michael Penix, he came back for the Falcons. We had or I'll just We picked me and Greg, we already exchanged sex messages about the pick and everything because the game already happened. And I chose the, I chose the Packers. He chose the Falcons. The Falcons put Belt to ass on the Packers. It was absolutely insane. Michael Penix, he looked great out there. But, you know, he's had, you know, three knee surgeries, et cetera. But would you what would you rather have? You know, a Michael Penix knee or a Jaden Daniels elk? Greg: Now, after having a back and forth text message with you, are you saying as a athlete, what would I rather have, or as the common nigga, what would I rather have? Jax: Both. Greg: Okay, as an athlete, give me give me the Jaden Daniels elbow. I feel like I'm out a lot more control of that. as the common nigga, give me the elbow. I have more control over what the fuck I can do. You got me fucked up, nigga. I like my knees, nigga. Fuck no. Fuck no, nigga. I don't care. Jax: I didn't say knees, I just said one knee. Just one knee. Greg: Yeah, I like either or. Can leave them bitches alone. Jax: Alright man, it was it would just be slipping out randomly, bro. Like what do you what do you need? Greg: I feel like I can hold it together with some brace and and a duck and some and some duct tape something, nigga. Jax: That's what Michael Phoenix doing. He his knee together with the brace and he hooped out. He went crazy. Greg: Yeah, but you not thinking about later down the road in life, like when in his fifties or sixties. I wanna be able to still play with my w with one with my kids and shit. Bend down, crawl, all this other stuff. With the elbow Jax: How you get you with one arm you can't it's a little bit more difficult. And then I already told you Kurt wasn't not Kurt, but Kurt Warner, his wife was talking about like, man, yeah, you you play without a brace or whatever. You tried to do this, that, and the third with your elbow when you played, and now you can't do certain stuff. I don't I don't know what the certain stuff she was implying, but that's what she said. I was like, Okay. I y'all get down a certain way, I guess. We I don't necessarily know exactly. Greg: Couldn't do certain stuff. Shorty. Shorty, shorty, tweaking. Jax: I don't necessarily know exactly what you're implying, Mrs. Warner, but that's between you and him. That's between you and him. Greg: Mrs. Warner was fed up. She was sick. She was like, You can't you can't do this. Nah, I think I think I think when it comes to when it comes to the elbow, well, granted, no matter what, I'm not moving like Kurt Warner because I'm putting something on whatever body part is fucked up. You ain't got to worry about me. I'm gonna make sure shit is healed. But Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: nah, I just think it's still at the end of the day with the Jaden Daniels thing. It's the non-throwing hand. It's the non-domin which means for my in my opinion, it's the non-dominant hand. It's one thing if you're saying, Hey, I'm eating a bowl of soup and my elbow just Then I might be on you. But if it's one that I'm not using as it's not like as important, it's the off, it's the off arm. I think I can survive. Cause God forbid I'm driving. Jax: I'm bitching. Greg: That shit. Now I'm cooked. Now I'm cooked. I but I see where you're coming from though. That nobody understands how important an elbow or anybody part is until you lose that bitch. Or it just start fucking with you. Jax: That was very yeah. Greg: What w w where were you going with it though? Jax: As somebody who already has a micropennyx knee and is moving around relatively fine, I think I don't know, man. You know, so I already got the knee. I'll take the I'll take the elbow. I don't I don't need another knee messed up. I don't need I don't need two messed up knees. Greg: Okay, I see where you're coming from. If you get a if you get a Michael Pendix knee, they're just gonna attack the good knee. That's just fucked up. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: That's not even fair. That's for though. Yeah, bro. Jax: But we sort of brushed by Michael Phoenix hooping going crazy and shout out to him. So I want to, you know, get off of that topic and go to another, another quarterback topic because the Chargers are playing like ass right now. They're 0-2 and they played the Raiders and the Cardinals. Both those teams seem to be better than we initially expected coming to the season. But still, y'all are the charges. We expect y'all to be much better. And there's been discourse going around, started by ESPN's own Dan Orlovsky. And I'm just playing the clip right here. You can see my screen, right? Greg: Yeah, I can see it. Jax: Big and replay. In this conversation, they were talking about they're comparing they're talking about how Dan Rolofsky talks about quarterbacks and how he values Justin Herbert so much higher over someone like Jalen Hurts, even though Jalen Hurts has objectively had more success than Justin Herbert in the NFL and has looked better than Justin Herbert at the highest stage. Granted, like Hurts is sort of his Q rating and his PRs went down since the Super Bowl. But like in those Super Bowl runs, he went absolutely nuclear. He even in the one they lost, he damn near outplayed Mahomes. They just, you know, got unlucky and lost that game. But you know, you have Greg: Right. Jax: analysts like Dan Olofsky just saying, you know, with Justin Herbert, even though he has his struggles, it just it looks the right way. And a lot of people have been like, What do you mean Greg: Mm-hmm. Jax: by that, Dan? Because honestly, what what do you mean by that, Dan Orlovski? What what do you mean it looks it look that's how it's supposed to look? I don't I Greg: Don't get hey, don't get caught up, Dan. Don't get caught up, nigga. Jax: Cause I'm gonna be honest. People have people have been describing like, Dan, he's racist and brother. I don't necessarily think I don't think Dan Olofsky racist. I just think he has horrible takes. And this is one of them. Granted, I do think Justin Herbert is more talented than Jalen Hurts, but at some point, like the Chargers, like we said, they're 0-2. Their team looks bad. Justin Herbert has made some good plays, some good throws, because he's talented. That's what he's going to do. But like, my nigga, like, this is, you know. New offense with Mike McDaniel, who's supposed to be the quarterback guru. He's the one who made Tua look amazing at quarterback. He's the one who got Tua like that what $250 million deal or whatever. And now you get Justin Herbert who's, you know, the most talented quarterback ever, people are saying. You know, he got the big, strong arm, he's tall, he's fast, he can do this, that, and everything. And y'all are Playing like cheeks right now. He threw two picks to the Raiders last week. I think to the same nigga who's a rookie. So maybe that rookie's just cold, but you know, neither here nor there. But it's just like, what's going on here? Justin Herbert, are you really good? Is it a you thing? Is it a Mike McDaniel thing? Is it the Jim Hartraw thing? Is it the Charger thing? What is the thing that's going on? Greg: It's a him thing, bro. It's a him thing. I think people are too afraid to say that it's a him thing because he has great highlights. I don't like quoting Emmanuel Acho, but they really Jax: Yeah. Greg: did attack that nigga when he said Justin Herbert is a social media quarterback. Niggas gave that nigga mad hate. every time that nigga hoops, I start to agree with that sentiment sometimes. Now, is everything his fault? No, of course. Everything is not his fault. Jax: It's never everybody's fault. Is it like this but this is not how things work? Greg: But it's never everybody's fault. Yeah. Did some of those interceptions get tipped and get recovered by the defense? Yes, they did. But that didn't stop y'all from saying the same egregious takes that y'all had for Dak Prescott when it happened to him. at some point, Jax: that's it Greg: at some point, niggas overcome. If you really are that nigga, you overcome. Certain obstacles, or is to the point where it's just like we know how great you are. Like when it came to Aaron Rodgers, when that nigga won a Super Bowl and didn't win it any other anywhere anytime else, at some point once he left, they were like, Man, we we really we failed Aaron Rodgers because we saw Jax: Yeah. Greg: what you could get out of this nigga. as much as niggas want to talk about Jalen Hurts, Jalen Hurts. And Justin Herbert are in the same draft class. But if you ask niggas about Justin Herbert, you would think this is his third or fourth year in the league. Okay. When just our I remember what it I remember what it was like seeing Jalen Hurts get drafted in the second round. Niggas in the niggas is in his own fan base booed him because they they still weren't off the Carson Wentz thing. Once they moved off of Carson Wentz, he became the starter. Unequivocally. That nigga Jalen Hurts had worse weapons than Justin Herbert. They had Greg Ward Jr. as the leading receiver for two seasons. Jax: Yeah. Greg: That was a real thing. That nigga Jalen Hurts is the real if-man to be. Because if you would Jax: Ha ha. Greg: have given that nigga weapons, if you would have given him an old line, if you would have gave now you see what happens. Yeah, he takes you to two Super Bowls and he wins one. He shows you what happens if. You playing around this nigga. Instead, I gotta go to Justin Herbert. there's niggas right now that won't even stand on the flag of okay, if we remove Jalen Hurts out of the situation and put Justin Herbert in that Eagle situation right here and right now, does he does he go does he perform better or does he get more accolades than Jalen Hurts? There are some niggas that are like, I mean, you know, so much, so many things have to happen. Answer the question. You not even you trying to have hypotheticals and more ifs in a better situation. And y'all keep telling me that Jalen Hurts is not, you know, he he's not this, he's not this guy. Like, look, at some point, this is year seven. At some Jax: Yeah. Greg: point, we gotta say, we giving him more grace than niggas doing Jordan Love, who's only bit he was in that same draft class and he had to sit behind Aaron Rodgers for two and a half seasons. This is really his third and fourth season for real. This is really his Jax: Yeah. Greg: fourth season. They out here talking about, you know, Jordan Love regressed this year. They're not looking good. We and nobody's giving nobody pushback about Jordan Love right now. No, about Jordan Love criticism. But Justin Herbert, it's my God, like. And where are these fans? Where are these fans coming from? Y'all don't have real fans. Jax: And why aren't y'all why yeah, y'all are fan y'all are fans of Justin Herbert, not the Chargers. Like, people are supporting him. Go go to the games. Greg: Exactly. That's what it that's what it is. I'm like, I don't see y'all niggas at the game. They keep showing that same Asian lady in the fucking booth. Y'all know what I'm talking about? Where the fuck these Charger fans come from for real? LA Charger fans. I'm not buying it. It gets to a point. If he was that nice, w we would see it. He's solid. He's a solid quarterback. He's not top ten. Jax: He has potential, but you know, we can't keep talking about him like that because you're seven, like we said. Greg: When does when does pot yeah, when does potential stop? Jax: Yeah. Greg: Did we ever have a did we ever have the the NFL version of how we feel about b basketball niggas? I don't know twenty four was our cutoff year for for basketball niggas. Did we ever get one for Jax: No we c Greg: for NFL? Jax: wasn't it wasn't it twenty four for both of right? Greg: shit. If it is, shit. Good. I thought we gave more I thought no, I think no, I think we gave more grace because they they start later. Yeah, they're in college longer. Jax: Wait, no, no, no. Cause the cause you're in college longer. We did what's the age we said. Do we say age? Greg: I think after the age of twenty seven you are what you are as a quarterback. Jax: for sure, twenty for sure. Greg: I borderline wanna say twenty five or twenty six, but like Jax: I was thinking 26. Cause if like if by 26 you ain't shown like if you haven't shown flashes by 26, you probably won't be good just in general. But and then you're probably like solidified as who you are by 27. So like we need flashes by 26, but like you are who you are by 27. Cause like, come on. Greg: Yeah. 'Cause nobody's having like a career resurgence like in like nobody's like turning into like a superstar at at thirty two, thirty three. That's not happening. That's not Jax: Exactly. Like even somebody like Matthew Stafford who on the back end of his career now is, you know, winning V Ps and Super Bowls and blah blah blah. But we yeah, we saw we saw this fascinating. Yeah, so Greg: You saw those flashes. You saw those flashes, you saw with everything. A n an another real F mean. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: How how there how are there better ifmans than j than the original if men? We have so many more examples of of niggas not starting with the best situation ever. And then when stuff gets added, you see the improvement. And we're not gonna sit here and act like the Chargers never add anything. They all they do is add and then they blame the shit that gets added and say it wasn't that good to begin with, or downplay how big niggas wanna hype up. Niggas was so hype about the McDaniels thing. Niggas was so hype about Jax: hasn't worked done. Greg: removing Brandon Staley. Niggas was so hype about giving this nigga a wide receiver or having Keenan Allen. You think Jalen Hurst would have loved Keenan Allen his first year? Crazy, nigga. Jax: Yeah. And like we said, you saw what when you finally got Jalen Hurd's weapons, you saw what happened. Greg: Joe Joe Burrow was in that same draft class. And hey, I talk about this nigga, nigga's injury, but hey, I remember the first thing nigga said, hey, if this nigga has a decent all-line after he had got injured this rookie year, hey, he's gonna be special. Next year, they beefed up the offensive line. They went to the Super Bowl. We saw flashes. We saw what we needed to see. Jax: In this charges off and they have like their O line has had struggles, but like now they got Rashawn Greg: Come on in. Jax: Tlater back, who is a I think he was a first team all pro before we got Joe Alt, who's back, and he was a top ten draft pick. They drafted him over Malik Neighbors. And people weren't like it's sort of like and it wasn't necessarily a bad choice because he's still Greg: Yeah, man. Jax: good, but so I don't know. Greg: And you losing to the Cardinals and the Raiders. I just don't think I just don't think other quarterbacks in this draft class outside of Tua are losing to the Cardinals or the Raiders. That's just my opinion. Jax: And you try to start an O and two. Most teams that go, they start the year on two, they don't make the playoffs. So we'll see how that goes. Greg: I've been I've been told you it's over 0 2 And they got the Bills Jax: You think they're gonna fight. They have have you seen their sched their upcoming schedule actually before we move up? Greg: Absolutely. Yeah, that's why I that's why I feel like they're not making the playoffs. They have they playing the Bills this Sunday. They're about to they're gonna play the Rams, the Texans, the Seahawks. They playing they playing some niggas. They're like on a seven street. Jax: Yeah, bro, so shoot. You think they're gonna You think they're gonna fire Harbaugh, 'cause they've done all the they still they ain't really done shit in the playoffs ever since that nigga been the coach. Like people love Jim Harbaugh, Greg: I would f I would fire Jax: but like Greg: I would fire some I would fire somebody. It's kinda hard to fire anybody offensively because Mike McDaniels just got there. Literally Jax: They just they just got here. Yeah. Greg: just got here. That's that's a you gotta let that nigga finish the season. But at the same time, you fire Jim Harbaugh. I don't see a world where you just what you gonna do? Upgrade Mike McDaniel. Upgrade Mike McDaniel, nigga. Jax: That is fair. Who y who are you gonna get? Greg: Like you might as well just let that shit play he d he doesn't seem like a mid season fire. 'Cause I don't think they have they don't yeah, but I don't Jax: Yeah, I was I was saying mid season. I was saying mid season. Greg: think he makes it the next year. I think they they move in another direction. Something has to change. Jax: Yeah. Greg: It's it's fucking insane over there. Jax: But speaking of changes, let's go ahead and shift into basketball real fast because Greg: Sorry. Jax: a change might be coming. I don't know. We'll see. But Carl Anthony Towns and the New York Knicks are very far apart in contract negotiations. I was gonna play this Shams thing, but I don't feel like playing the whole thing because I don't want to. Greg: That's real. Jax: but As you know, like I said, as people reported, the Knicks are asking Kat to take a discount for his max. They're really close to second apron already. And Jalen Brunson, he took a discount and now he's eligible for an extension. He wants he wants all his money back. Like hint, like he can Jalen Brunson can say the same, can say the thing that Vladdy has said. We're talking about, they're paying me for what I did. Because like Jalen Brunson can get away with that. Vladdy, you can't, Greg: Absolutely. Jax: but back to basketball. Jalen Brunson, he took a discount already, now he's coming for his He's coming for everything that they owe him. So they want Kat to take a discount, but Kat seems unwilling to do that. Greg: this is a newly married man. and when new stuff starts happening, man, I I I'm starting to see certain things about Kat. He's really starting to like take ownership into himself and like he starts to be a lot more vocal these days. I I think I think he's at that point where he he's kind of now sticking up for himself where he's just like, okay, I'm not finna just allow people of course, of course Cat will do it. Of course this will. Nah nigga. Jax: Ha ha. Greg: Nah, hold on, nigga. Like I I done let too many niggas get that line off because of however you may feel about my voice or whatever the case may be. Nah, nigga. I just got married, gag. Like, I I I'm moving different. I'm assuming he's trying to have a family. He's he's trying to he's trying to have a backbone. And I can respect, I can respect that. Jax: Don't have don't have quince. Greg: I don't think they have kids yet. Jax: Why does he have kids? fair enough, but regardless. Greg: No, I don't think so. I think so. But I I shit. If it hasn't happened, it's gonna it's happening soon. Relatively soon. Jax: Relatively soon, 'cause we just got married. Greg: but yeah, in his mind, he's like, you better go ask Mikhail Bridges or somebody else, make that shit work. That some nigga, cause in his mind, he's like, Okay, look, we can run it back Jax: I said the Deuce McBride. Greg: with the same squad we got going on. Fuck a second apron. Like, and that's probably his mentality of like. Okay, like we won. I feel confident my ab abilities. I got traded, so I already lost money already because I was Jax: Yeah, for source. Greg: I didn't I had no intentions on leaving Minnesota and I was probably gonna retire a Minnesota Timberwolf and get a s a crazy whatever supermax was gonna be there. That shit basically got cut in half, and now I'm with y'all. I can't cut again. I can't I can't cut twice. If I was homegrown, Jax: No. Greg: you might have been able to kind of finesse like kind of been able to I probably been able to budge. But nah, man. I I'm gonna need my I'm gonna eat my bread and we won something for the city. I'm being honest, like Jax: We want something for my city, the city I'm from. Or w yeah, he's from New York. Greg: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's from yeah, I think he's from Jersey. Like basic they're all close. Like this all the same shit. It's the same thing, basically. Jax: Man, same thing. It's not the same thing, but it's the same thing, bro. I don't care. Greg: But it's just like if I'm New York, hey, you're gonna have to eat that second apron cost, my nigga. Like they did something for the city that hasn't happened in 50 years. Mind you, the city's underwater right now. Just pay these niggas back, cause you don't know, like, come on, bro. Like, come on. You you was I remember what what what pin and pinching looked like in 2014 for you niggas. In Jax: Yeah. Greg: 2017 for you niggas. Just pay these niggas, bro. Pay. Yeah. I think everybody that's contributed, because Cat for sure contributed. Anybody in that starting five, plus Jose Alvarado, because that nigga's from the city. Hey, he gotta stay. Those. Jax: Yeah, Jose gotta say. Jose's going to say. Jose will take a discount. Let tell Jose to take a discount. Greg: No I'm saying he could take it yeah, he'll take a discount. That nigga love the city. That nigga Jax: Yeah. Greg: love the city. So I'm just like, if if I I would make this like a this would be such such a nothing burger for me. Because the vibes in the city went insanely high after that. Bro, just give them Jax: And if they if they break up any main member of that core, whether it be like Kat, Jalen Brunson, Mikhail, Josh Hart, if they if any of them go, vibes are down so much, so fast. Greg: So like vibes is extremely down. So just Jax: Yeah. Greg: just pay like I don't I don't see an issue in just hitting this second apron right here, at least for one year. And then reassess and then reassess after like what happens in the east. Because niggas talking crazy about Philly. Hey, that's that's just a year and a half, two year sample size, and then LeBron is done. Philly, Philly is not gonna be as strong as it is. For six years. Jax: And also who knows how strong it will be in general, because they're like, are you depending on the health of LeBron James and Joel and B and well the playstyles miss and all this other stuff, like Greg: Yeah. And then in in Boston, we still need to and in Boston, we gotta see what Jason Tatum unhampered looks like. Jax: Look like we're forced in the same. Greg: And we just gotta pr you know, you gotta pray that Paul George can do something at that age. Jax: Exactly. Greg: And we gotta see how well and how healthy Kawhi Leonard. Like, there's a lot of injury things going on in the East. Like, yeah, the East got better, but it's injury niggas. Jax: It's a this is a if man conference. Greg: Therese Halliburton. Yeah, Therese Halliburton is coming off of injury. You know what I mean? These these are teams that are coming off of injury. Detroit don't know what the fuck is going on with their fucking big man. Jax: Listen. Shit, Lake let Kat go to Detroit while y'all playing. Greg: Shit, why y'all fucking playing? Like all the people with the exception of like maybe the Cavs. The Cavs seem pretty healthy. Outside of the Cavs, everybody gotta prove themselves. Everybody Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: gotta prove themselves in the East. So if in my mind, New York is still the best team in the conference. Just pay the money. What are you really saving Jax: I'm just Greg: by keeping it under the second April? Who were you who were you adding? Who were you gonna go add? Nobody. Jax: Nobody. They're just gonna pay these players, but I don't know. Me just say just thinking about it right now, just a cat on the cat on the pistons would work, if we're being honest. Cat on the pistons would for sure. Greg: It would fit seamlessly. Them niggas would win a chip. Them niggas would win a fucking chip. Jax: 'Cause all they really needed was more offense. And that's what cat can do. That's really what cat can do. And and shooting, so the spacing is much better as well, man. Greg: Bro. Yes. And he played he he played he can play better defense than Jalen Duran. He can grab more boards Jax: Shit man. Greg: than Jalen Durin. Jax: Cause Kat he started he started to lock up in the playoffs a little bit. He started he was Greg: Yes. Jax: like, you know what, I'm I'm a man, not a mouse. Man Greg: Yeah, he he showed you. He showed you the grit that he has. He wasn't just settling. Jax: New York keep messing around. Jalen Duran keep messing around. Y'all gonna get y'all it man. Greg: Ya go gas what? Jax: Y'all gonna get swapped out. The piss is gonna be happy and New York them fans are going to hate you, Jalen Dern. Because if you don't play good in the playoff, Greg: Jalen Durr Jalen Burren. Jax: they're going to wanna murder you. Greg: Yeah, because if they find out Jose Alvarado's out hustling you, nigga. Yeah. He not built for it. He's not built for it. Jax: Yeah, no, I'm just just thinking about that. Yeah, nah. No, no, he is not. No, he is not. But I do think it's about that time. Greg: Luggy for you. I'm prepared. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: NFL picks are back. And let's go ahead and give y'all finally the updated version Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: of our records. Jax's record, seven and five. My record. Trust me. Trust Jax: That'll be worse. That'll be worse. Greg: me. Your week one was fucking horrendous. You kind of made it back up. Jax: Exactly. Greg: You made it back up in week two. my record also seven and five. Had a great first week. Second week, I was on bullshit in the primetime picks. I was I was picking the opposite Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: of you. but got it back in blood with the Atlanta Falcons pick that just happened on Thursday. But we move on to week three of NFL picks, primetime picks Sunday night, Los Angeles Rams versus the Denver Broncos, Jacks. I know where you're going, but I just want you to say it out loud. Who are you picking for this night matchup? Jax: It sucks because I have the Broncos defense in fantasy, but So that hurts, but I'm still I'm going Rams, I'm going Rams. Greg: Okay. You're going Rams. I will be going Broncos. Jax: Just Matthew Stafford, just throw a couple picks, please. Throw a couple picks. Throw a couple Greg: I will be I Jax: picks and win the game seven to zero. And I'll be happy. Greg: I will be picking the Broncos. The Broncos is my pick. Next up, Eagles versus Bears. Humbly I am picking Philadelphia. Jax: Yeah, we I gotta go Eagles 'cause as much as I, you know, love Case Keenum, it's Case Keenum, bro, I can't I'm sorry. Greg: Yeah. You light my fire? That's fair. Jax: That song the fire bend the song is over. Like how old actually I'm I gotta look at that. How old is Case Keen? Greg: Case Keaton sounds like a 36-ass nigga. He's probably older though. 38. Jax: Thirty-eight. Thirty-eight. Nigga, stop playing. You're a backup. Greg: But Phillip Rivers, man, stop. I'm not trying to hear that. Jax: Phil like Philip Ears came out of retirement, bro. And then like Joe Flacco, he's old, but he was a star he was a starter at one point in time. So like that makes it can have been a career backup, bro. Greg: Real Hooper. Jax: And Joe Flagg lost a 41, so there's that. But still, bro. And K's Keenum is small. He's a small human being. He's not or he's small relative to NFL players. Cause he's six feet, two twenty. Like he's not a big player. So stop. But whatever, man. Greg: Yeah, it is what it is. All right. Jax, who was your lock of the week? Jax: Alright, my lock of the week. I am taking. Greg: Damn, I feel like you're gonna still who I'm gonna pick. Jax: Where's Steve's? That's these buttons not coming out. It's horrible. But I'm gonna take the Titans over the Giants. Cause I n Cam Ward, Greg: That's a lot. Jax: brother, I need you to win. I don't care. I don't care if it's a lock. It's it's going to be my lock of the week. I don't care if it's a lock. It's They're talking to Cam Ward crazy. They're acting like he's ass now. I don't think he's a bad quarterback. I just I need the Titans to cause they like last week they should have beat the Eagles, but you know the Eagles made that you know two-minute drive and won the game. Greg: Yeah. Jax: But I need the Titans to get a win, bro. So I'm going Titans over Giants. Greg: man. Yeah. I h I hope he can I hope he can do that. Jax: I do too, man. Greg: my lock gotta keep it on the safe side. Give me Seattle over the commanders. Jax: For sure. All Greg: and Jax, what's your upset? Jax: right. My upset. It's going to the same principles, bro. Jets, I need you to beat the Lions. Like I like the Lions, but I have agendas to put. I need Aaron Glenn to win. I need him to be successful. So give me the Jets over the Lions. Greg: Hmm. Jax: Really I should have said the Cardinals over the Niners. 'Cause actually no, I'm gonna go Cardinals over the Niners. Wait. Who win is more important to me? Greg: Jets. Jax: In like the grand in the grand scheme of things. Greg: Just. Jax: yeah. yeah, I'll never I'll I'll k I'll keep with the Jets then. Jets over Lions. 'Cause Jacoby Burset, he's won multiple games before. Like he doesn't his Greg: Yeah. Jax: legacy is isn't changing. I need I need this for Aaron Glenn, so give me Greg: Yeah, Aaron yeah, Aaron Gwen, every every day is a test for that night. Literally. He's not. Mmm, Jax: Yeah. I don't think he's a bad coach. I don't. I don't. Greg: who is Who w who was an upset that I actually believe in? Mmm. I hate doing stuff like that, so I won't. Honestly. Can't do cardinals. You know what? I'ma check temperature. Give me Raiders over Saints. They got the Saints winning that bitch. The Raiders starting three and no sounds crazy. So I will I will go there. Jax: But low-key, both of them teams are better than anybody expected. So that's actually Greg: Absolutely. I agree. Jax: like a good I don't know who's gonna win that game. So that's a good, good matchup. Greg: I that's that's a real that's a real coin flip. I don't like you I don't like betting on my own team and I Jax: Yeah, I was never gonna do. Greg: don't the Chargers bills felt too enti like it it was enticing, I'm not gonna lie, like to just have the Chargers win. But like I said, I have agendas to push. I can't. I Jax: Yeah. Greg: can't. But with that being said, I think it is that that real time. My hot takes. the hot takes of the week, Jax. What is your hot take of the week? Jax: All right, my hot take. All you niggas are not autistic. All you niggas are not autistic. Greg: my god, what the fuck? Jax: People there's been a whole I don't even know like a a Greg: to go. Jax: surge in people wanting to be autistic, a surge in people thinking everything is auto what show was I watched. It was The Drop you Snowfall, you've seen Snowfall, right? They're Greg: Yeah yeah yeah for sure. Jax: making like a sequel to it or whatever called The Drop. And it's pretty good. I've seen a couple episodes. But one Greg: Yeah. Jax: character, he's just like the main character, his name's like Lamar or something like that. Greg: Mm-hmm. Jax: People just been calling him autistic, like, he's so autistic and blah, blah, blah. And cause he did this. And I'm like, there's nothing in this story that ever implied, ever said he was autistic. Y'all are just putting this on this character for no reason. And it just made me be like, everybody wants everything to be autistic. Everybody wants everything to be this, that, and it's just like, no, bro. Sometimes people are just a little bit weird. That doesn't make them autistic. I understand that it's a spectrum. And some people are higher on said spectrum, some people are lower on said spectrum. But I'm just saying, like. All you niggas are not autistic. All you niggas are not sexualistic. I've actually like Greg: I'm tired I'm tired of that fuck ass spectrum. Jax: interacted with autistic people and stuff. Like, cause my mom used to do foster care and stuff. So I've actually seen like autistic children like in the home. I understand how they operate and like all you niggas are not autistic. You niggas are you niggas thinking some like bads of being special and it makes you just cause you're a little quirky and this, that, and the third, like, no, stop it. Just stop it. I don't know what I don't know what exact like social media movement or what exact event happened that made everybody want to be this way or everyb made everybody think that everybody is this way, but like it's it's not, bro. All y'all are not autistic. Just stop it, bro. Just just quit it. That's my hot say. Greg: Once niggas once once niggas started saying autistic niggas are like some of the most intelligent people on this earth, all of a sudden niggas started wearing it like it's a badge honor. Jax: Everybody starts jumping. me like, no, nigga. And you niggas are not intelligent. Y'all are stupid too. Like, stop it. Like, really, stop it. Greg: You autistic, but you still relying on women's intuition. I'm trying to hear that shit right now, man. Please. Please, man. Do niggas brag about like do men brag about being autistic like this? I only see women do this. Men do this shit too? Jax: Yes. No, I see I I yes. Greg: Man, that's crazy. For what? You not getting extra hoes for that? Jax: Because they think it they think that they think it they think 'cause they're a little bit weird or a little bit quirky that they're off like, no, that's not how that works. But it is what it is, man. Greg: You just a weird nigga. Autism didn't make you run like Naruto, man. I promise he didn't. Jax: She just Greg: You was a weird nigga. Damn, you're right. Damn, yeah. We gotta we gotta put a stop to this. Hey man, that's where we gotta protect the Second Amendment. I won't further explain that. Anyway. My hot take is If you go out your way to order a meatball marinara sub, you are one sick ass nigga. Jax: What? Greg: Hey, the concept of buying a meatball sub is actually sick, nigga, nigga. That's like that's that was always overrated as subway. I don't know why niggas was gassing that shit that hard to begin with. That is not a good sub, nigga. That's not a good set. Nigga, just make spaghetti bitch ass, nigga. The only reason why I'm thinking about this is because, you know, in the quarterback realm, when niggas throw interceptions, niggas throw picks, everybody keeps saying, you know, turkey sub. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Slider meatball sub. And the more I started hearing niggas talk about meatball sub, I had to ask myself who is eating meatball subs on a rain forever. It was not that good. Jax: Well, I haven't had one in forever, but like I don't think it was like horrible. Greg: It wasn't horrible, but it was like that's like an egregious sandwich, nigga. Like just meatball marinara and some Jax: The con the Greg: cheese. Jax: the concept of the sandwich is very crazy when you think about it though. So I I Greg: Meatballs on some bread. Nigga, you could you could have just got garlic bread, some noodles, and made some spaghetti with them same meatballs. Jax: Like why also why the meat ball? Like Greg: Yeah, you could have just had something else, like specifically the meatballs. Jax: Yeah, it's still like made of the same self, like yeah, I don't Greg: And I remember in middle school, somebody gassed it up because I had my own sandwich that I had like when I was in school. And they was like, yeah, meatball sub. And I tried that shit one time. I was like, this is what y'all gassing up. And on top of that, I couldn't even finish the sand. I'm like, man, this not it's cool, but like, this what y'all gassing up. This shit just feels it just feels Jax: Yeah. You you know you lied about that. Greg: like circular meatloaf, nigga. Like from a subway standpoint. Like it wasn't like this shit was crap. Who is eating meat? And who else? What other sandwich place is giving out meatball subs? Outside the subway. Who is giving out meatball subs like that? Jax: That yeah, that feel like that feel like like a like a restaurant. Like no fast food place should be giving you meatballs. Greg: That shit sounds like a I'm a Italian like restaurant and they have like a a grinder there or something. Jax: Yeah, like that's some if it's at a re like a meatball set up at a restaurant is probably like crazy. But Greg: Yeah, it might be crazy. But at a fast a fast food establishment, you're sick. You Jax: Yeah, no, you you Greg: are a sick nigga if you go to a fast food establishment and ask for that beatball sub. I put that in the same Jax: You both. Greg: I put the I put that in the same realm as niggas going to Taco Bill asking for wings. What are we doing? Jax: You know they got Long John Silver's wings too now? Greg: I could have gone my whole life not knowing that. Didn't know that was a thing. That was crazy. Jax: Yeah, I seen it. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not going to partake, but like I'm not against it. But I'm not gonna do it. But I'm not against Greg: 'Cause it's a fish place in your frying chicken. Jax: And the ch the chicken at Long John Silver, the Long John Silvers is not long silvers is good. I don't care what nobody say. The chicken at Long John Silvers is also good. Greg: It's been so long since I've had Long John Silvers, I kinda forgot what it tastes like. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna disrupt. Jax: No, bro. I've always like like I haven't been along circles in forever, but like when I have had it, it's always been good. It's always slapped so Greg: Niggas be getting a meatball sub, but draw the line at a fish sandwich from Wendy's. I'm trying to like get the fuck out of here, nigga. Like there is no moral high ground with you anymore. Like you can't you there's just certain things that once I find out you partake in, you can't turn your nose up at other things in the fast food community. Jax: I'm trying I feel like this the the fist sandwich at Wendy's on the same level as me balls up, bro. Greg: It is on the same level that which means you can't turn your nose up on it. Jax: Fair, fair, fair. Greg: Like you you just have to take it with, like, okay, that's just that's just not my preference. But you can't say, nigga, that's what you do. You eat a meatball sub as a fast food right now. No. I'm not trying to hear it. You don't even know what's in me. Jax: That's fair, that's fair. Greg: You don't know what's in that mystery meet, nigga. You just hope and pray that it is FDA approved, nigga. Fuck outta here. That's crazy, yeah, man. Jax: And it won't be it won't. 'Cause they FDA they don't improve nothing, bro. Actually their their approval process is terrible now. They let us eat anything, bro. They don't care. Greg: They letting everything slide. That's why there's so many recalls. Crazy, bro. But yeah, that's that's my that's my hot take. And granted, all of this can be said, all of this can be put to bed if you just simply do what I do, and that's cook at home. Cook real meals. Get in that kitchen. Move the malbows that God graced you with. Jax: Unless you're JK, yes. Greg: I was trying my best not to go. I promise you. I thought it. Jax: Then get a brace. Greg: I thought it I just I didn't commit. I'm glad you I'm glad you laid it up. but I think that's I think that's where we're at, man. I think that's it, man. Jax, any last words? Jax: go outside, go touch some grass, love your family. That's about it, man. Greg: Man, yeah. Like he said, touch the touch the grass. Let the grass touch you. unless you are in the East Coast, you need to stay inside. There is no grass to touch. It l it looks I'm I'm not even exaggerating. It do look like Hurricane RV out there. Crazy. It and I'm I they don't even get like and it's not even from like a hurricane, it's just excessive rain, bad rain, Jax: Is it bad rain for real? Greg: like just a bad rain and wind. Like all the things that encompass a hurricane. All everything Jax: I was like, that sounds like a hurricane. Greg: that encompasses a hurricane, but it's not it's not a hurricane. Like if this same storm would have went to Houston, well, Houston's a bad example because they flood over any and everything. But y'all wouldn't y'all wouldn't even categorize this as like a tropical storm. It's like right under it. But they're not used to having this kind of thing happen up here. So any small thing. It's just like Houston with snow. We're not we're not prepared for snow. So when a little drop lip shit happen, all hell break loose. That's that's basically Jax: It's over. Yeah, it's over. Greg: the equivalent. That's the best way I can describe it. Cause I'm looking at it like, damn, that the city fucked up over this. I really wanna go outside, but I'ma I'ma stop. I'ma I'm gonna not jinx it. But with that being said, make sure y'all like, subscribe. Comment down below, donate, all those things. We appreciate y'all. And we'll catch y'all niggas next week.