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Ep. 108 : Postseason & Japanese Star Card Stashes · Cards & Categories

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome everybody to episode one oh eight of
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  Speaker 1: Cards and Categories. I'm my kool Aid from ras Ball,
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  Speaker 1: joined as always by my very good friend Jeremy Burer,
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  Speaker 1: also from ras Ball. How are you doing tonight, Buddy,
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  Speaker 1: doing well?
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  Speaker 2: Excited to talk. I felt like last week we were
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  Speaker 2: talking about how like all the fun news and call
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  Speaker 2: ups were done and things like that, and it's still happening,
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  Speaker 2: so like even a few weeks left, not even a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks, week and a half left, so it's still
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  Speaker 2: some excitement and the playoff races are getting tighter thanks
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  Speaker 2: to least one team. Thank you Mets for making at
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  Speaker 2: least somewhat interesting for us.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's lots of interest going on out there.
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  Speaker 1: We are recording this on September seventeenth, just so that
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I mean last night we saw the
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  Speaker 1: culmination of cal Raley finally chasing down that switch hitting
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  Speaker 1: home run record. On top of it, somebody on Etsy
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  Speaker 1: bought the witch like positive witch hecks for the Seattle Mariners,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what they've been on their run winning for.
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  Speaker 1: So I think they're down right now as we're speaking.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's a cole Reagan's Bryce Miller kind of battle
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  Speaker 1: of ineptitude. But last night we saw Raleigh jack two homers,
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  Speaker 1: including the first ones just like an all time Titanic
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  Speaker 1: fifty fifth homer off of Michael Waka looks like a
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  Speaker 1: big old Joey Gallows swing from cal Raley. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we've said plenty about Raley. We had him in our
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  Speaker 1: mock first round draft last week when we did that pod.
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  Speaker 1: So if you want I think more thoughts of him
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  Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty six, certainly check that out. But
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  Speaker 1: this is just one of the most incredible seasons you've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen, right Like we've seen Otani fifty to fifty,
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  Speaker 1: We've seen some of these Aaron Judge years, and I
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  Speaker 1: mean this cal Raley season goes right up there with
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  Speaker 1: them and the pantheon.
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  Speaker 2: For me, yeah, absolutely. I think it's there's something to
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  Speaker 2: be said for the catcher and switch hitter, Like there's
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  Speaker 2: something to be said about that. And we've talked about
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  Speaker 2: how Seattle's not necessarily the easiest place to hit, and
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  Speaker 2: like he has just made that like a laughing stock
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  Speaker 2: at this point. And so I've I've thought for long
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  Speaker 2: there's no way he keep this up. No, he keep
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  Speaker 2: this up and he just keeps delivering and it is
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  Speaker 2: incredibly impressive. Like I am, I am hoping hoping somehow
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  Speaker 2: he makes it to sixty. I just think that would
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  Speaker 2: be incredible and like that will be a season for
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  Speaker 2: the Ages. And I don't see how he's not in
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  Speaker 2: that MVP conversation, Like he has to be there. He
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  Speaker 2: has done things for that position that I've never been
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  Speaker 2: done before. So this has been really really fun to watch.
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  Speaker 2: There really wasn't much of a Homer Derby Champion hangover
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  Speaker 2: after all? Was there? There was a slight one and
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  Speaker 2: then he's come back with a fervor, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I mean the Mariners have and all
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  Speaker 1: the way to first place as we're speaking, their half
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  Speaker 1: game up in the AL West, and they are just
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  Speaker 1: they look so hot that you wonder how much they
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  Speaker 1: can even ride this all the way into October. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's almost the classic conversation of are they peaking a
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  Speaker 1: little too early? But if they look up right now,
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  Speaker 1: they're right behind Detroit for that two seed in the AL.
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  Speaker 1: So lots of great fun I think on that Mariners team.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I was trying to shoehorn them in with
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  Speaker 1: our topic for today, which is we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about card stashes to put together one for the postseason.
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  Speaker 1: We were looking back and reflecting on how Tommy Edmund
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  Speaker 1: kind of made that run out of nowhere last year
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and his card prices shot through the roof,
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  Speaker 1: and so I'm trying to find maybe some players with
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  Speaker 1: you where we can find. You know, these guys are
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  Speaker 1: low priced out in the market relatively to what they
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  Speaker 1: could do if they have a Tommy Edmund like run. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: there's not one of those on the Mariners, because, like
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners are pretty well valued in the baseball card
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  Speaker 1: market overall, and you know, those guys are very much
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  Speaker 1: in demand because it's a hot market too for Mariners cards.
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  Speaker 1: I think between people collecting Griffy's back in the nineties
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  Speaker 1: and just it being the favorite team of so many
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  Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest. We won't have any Mariners investments
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  Speaker 1: to talk about, but we will have some Japanese Stars
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  Speaker 1: investments too, so maybe they'll cross over eventually with the Mariners.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see, but I think it's an exciting pod. You're
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to it. I'll looking toward to it.
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  Speaker 2: I somehow love the fact that you brought that together.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know where you were going, and I like
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  Speaker 2: that you brought this Seattle Japanese connection together because I
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  Speaker 2: am really excited. I'm a nerd, you know this, and
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  Speaker 2: I love to talk and look at the weird angles
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  Speaker 2: of the card collecting hobby and Japanese players, getting the posting,
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  Speaker 2: getting bringing over is just a fun little niche that
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  Speaker 2: I've loved to play in. And let's get let's get
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  Speaker 2: a chance to dig into it because there's some big
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  Speaker 2: names that might become in this winner.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think there. I mean there's one that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a one.
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  Speaker 2: There's a big one. There's a big one coming. So
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  Speaker 2: you thought was fine, we got another one for it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Or yea momoto. Even so, we're going to discuss some
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  Speaker 1: news and notes first from MLB that are affecting the
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  Speaker 1: fantasy games out there for the last week and a
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  Speaker 1: half of you. As you said, we can have twoish weeks.
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  Speaker 1: The season ends on the twenty eighth, so we're right
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  Speaker 1: in between the window of like what you would call
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  Speaker 1: two weeks, ten days, one and a half weeks. We're
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  Speaker 1: not going to focus on that. Let's get into these
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  Speaker 1: news and notes. We're going to start off with two
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  Speaker 1: pretty big promotions out there that happened just these past
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  Speaker 1: couple of days. First one we have, we're going north
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  Speaker 1: of the border to Toronto. The Blue Jays called up
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  Speaker 1: trey Ya Savage to make his MLB debut after he
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  Speaker 1: just lit up a couple of leagues and the miners
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  Speaker 1: blitzed through them. Was picked just last year in the
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  Speaker 1: first round as the twentieth overall pick to the Blue
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  Speaker 1: Jays and is already making his MLB debut, and what
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  Speaker 1: a debut it was. Generated nine strikeouts for his to
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  Speaker 1: set a new Toronto Blue Jays record there for a debut,
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  Speaker 1: and generated sixteen whiffs I believe, out of sixty nine
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  Speaker 1: total pitches. So like, that's an insane whift ratio. You
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  Speaker 1: look at his chasing swinging strike rate right now on
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  Speaker 1: fangrafts and it is at forty six point four percent,
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  Speaker 1: So like it's nasty stuff. He throws it out of
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  Speaker 1: a really really over the top slot. It's not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: the highest velocity, but it does sit mid to upper
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  Speaker 1: nineties and he just absolutely destroyed the rays of that outing.
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  Speaker 1: Is this a guy that you're bumping to the top
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  Speaker 1: of all these other arms that have been coming up
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  Speaker 1: lately that we've talked about between Brandon Sprote, Jonah Tong,
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  Speaker 1: Peyton totally kindly early. Is Trey a Savage at the
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  Speaker 1: top of that mountain?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's at the top of that
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  Speaker 2: mountain right now, but that mountain is very crowded, is
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  Speaker 2: the way to look at like it. I almost change
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  Speaker 2: my opinion in daily on on who's the top of that?
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  Speaker 2: But you call some things out there is that he
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  Speaker 2: does have a really unique delivery, which I think is
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  Speaker 2: gonna take some adjustment, but I do think major league
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  Speaker 2: ktitchers can adjust to it. You know, he he's a
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  Speaker 2: strikeout machine. That's absolutely who he is. You know, he's
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  Speaker 2: been like a career sixteen kper nine guy in the miners.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I get that this, you know, low A
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  Speaker 2: things like that boost that, but still like in a
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  Speaker 2: Triple A this season, in Double A he was thirteen
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  Speaker 2: to fourteen k per nine. Like, it's just insane strikeout numbers.
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  Speaker 2: The walks have been a little all over the place,
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  Speaker 2: So I think the controls a little bit suspected that
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  Speaker 2: we have to keep keep an eye on what that
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna look like. And so I think that's really
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  Speaker 2: what's gonna determine, you know, how far how far he goes.
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  Speaker 2: But he's gonna be a big strikeout guy. That's there's
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  Speaker 2: no question about that. He does have some nasty stuff
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  Speaker 2: and coming out of that angle, it's gonna be it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be hard to touch. So I think he's towards
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  Speaker 2: the top of that list. Is he the guy I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna look at for my ratios, not necessarily, Is he
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  Speaker 2: the guy gonna look at for strikeouts? Absolutely. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's really where he kind of fits it at this point.
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  Speaker 2: And you know him and Early and you know Nolan
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  Speaker 2: McLain's been amazing, Like tall and like those are the
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  Speaker 2: guys that I think are gonna be really really interesting
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  Speaker 2: and hard to position next year going to the draft,
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  Speaker 2: because we're gonna get to see two or three start
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  Speaker 2: for most of these guys, and that's a hard projection,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of them looked pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it will be something where the postseason will
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  Speaker 1: have a role here I think going forward for Gay
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  Speaker 1: Savage and those Mets players and those Red Sox players,
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  Speaker 1: plus some spring training stuff too. This is the type
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  Speaker 1: of like bulk of players where spring training might really
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  Speaker 1: pull the hairs apart to be able to separate them
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  Speaker 1: depending on how they're looking. Okay, let's move on to
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  Speaker 1: the next promotion, as we're gonna go to San Francisco
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  Speaker 1: where they've called up their number one overall prospect, Bryce Eldridge.
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  Speaker 1: He's a twenty year old six foot seven, two forty
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  Speaker 1: left handed bat that was drafted back in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: three in the first round. It was a pretty solid
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  Speaker 1: triple A set for him as a twenty year old.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty tough, you know. Uh, it's a pretty high
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  Speaker 1: level league. You know, even in when you're twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: you're a little bit underage there, So keep that in
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  Speaker 1: mind as he put together two forty nine, three, twenty two, five,
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  Speaker 1: fourteen there in triple A for the Giants, eighteen homers
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  Speaker 1: in sixty six games, making the debut for San Francisco
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  Speaker 1: because Dominic Smith is hitting the il with an injury.
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  Speaker 1: Is this a type of player, Eldridge where I mean
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  Speaker 1: you will bark up this tree desperate for power at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the season, Because it does look like
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  Speaker 1: Eldridge is going to play down the stretch in mostly
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  Speaker 1: a DH role probably, But are you going to go
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  Speaker 1: his way in case you need a little extra power
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  Speaker 1: down the stretch for these last two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I think he's a great choice
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  Speaker 2: for that. I think it's it could be feast for famine,
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  Speaker 2: that's for sure. With with the youth, With the ballpark
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  Speaker 2: that he's in, Oracle Parks not necessarily the place you
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  Speaker 2: go to hit homers, he could absolutely go running. If
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  Speaker 2: I'm a betting man, I'd probably say it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a little of growing pains. He is prone to strikeouts,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, Kavani's ballpark, but there's probably not a
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  Speaker 2: lot of options out there right now. So I think
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  Speaker 2: that if you're if you're scratching the free agent wire here,
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  Speaker 2: Eldrich is really a great option for that power. But
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  Speaker 2: it's it's really going to be hit or miss in
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  Speaker 2: the scenario that he's in. But he should with Tom
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  Speaker 2: Smith going down, he should have that full, full run
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  Speaker 2: and you know they're giving them a chance to kind
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  Speaker 2: of settle into that role for for good for next year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think that's a great point,
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  Speaker 1: is that if he can especially ascend to that starting
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  Speaker 1: role for twenty twenty six. I love him going forward
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  Speaker 1: for that because just long term, I think that is
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  Speaker 1: like bat where it might take him a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years for it to click, but I think when it clicks,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna really be next level.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree. I think he's got a guy that
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  Speaker 2: might get a little hype next year that might be
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  Speaker 2: a little tuober premature just because he doesn't have a
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  Speaker 2: full round game. He's not gonna be a high average guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's not gonna get the steals things like that, so
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to rely on the big power tool,
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  Speaker 2: which he does have. It just might take a little
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  Speaker 2: bit to grow into that and get used to the majors.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair. Okay, Well, with those promotions
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  Speaker 1: out of the way, let's move on to some injuries
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  Speaker 1: here that I mean, most of these guys except for
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  Speaker 1: the first one. I think you're talking about rest the
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  Speaker 1: season being out so you can totally drop any of
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  Speaker 1: these players for fantasy reasons. I think what we'll probably
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  Speaker 1: focus on is either capstoning these players as seasons from
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five or kind of projecting them going to
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. So here's the one that caveated. The
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  Speaker 1: first one is an injury, but not an injury as
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  Speaker 1: Treaks Scooble from the Detroit Tigers. His latest start, he
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  Speaker 1: left early because he was grab an ass side said
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  Speaker 1: that his it looked like a classic left oblique strain.
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  Speaker 1: Shelve them keep him out for the playoffs. Never hear
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  Speaker 1: from him again until twenty twenty six. Probably really scared
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  Speaker 1: the Bejesus out of a lot of Tigers fans, but
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  Speaker 1: they checked him out, said he's okay, he's ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: What is your your deaf con here in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the deaf Con scale on concern about tweeks google going
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  Speaker 1: forward not only for this oblique injury, but because of
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  Speaker 1: maybe some of the cascading effects that compensating for a
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  Speaker 1: slight injury as a power pitcher might yield. I will
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  Speaker 1: also remind you, contrary to what most people think, deaf
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  Speaker 1: Con scale one is the highest. So you've got one
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  Speaker 1: through five. What's your deaf cone scale? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably would have got that wrong, That's that's
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  Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah, I'm gonna give it a two right now?
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  Speaker 2: Is where when he give it is just because.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, two or course two is really high. Oh sorry
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  Speaker 1: for see I already screwed up.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Two is defined as near nuclear war.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it depends where you want to look at it.
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  Speaker 2: But like that's why I feel like when you're going
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  Speaker 2: to face schooble from HITTINGE perspectives, Okay, we're gonna give
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  Speaker 2: it the four. What's the four defined it? What's what's
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  Speaker 2: that definition?
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  Speaker 1: Intel Watch increased security measures strengthened. So okay, I think
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  Speaker 1: Condo America after nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's that's fair. So I think that's where
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  Speaker 2: Schoogle fits in that four category. Is like if this,
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  Speaker 2: if the the Tigers were not in it, his season's over,
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  Speaker 2: We're not hearing about it. He's kind of recovering, and
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  Speaker 2: then he's back full full steam next year. The reason
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  Speaker 2: it's not a five a man, the skills messing me up.
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  Speaker 2: But the reason it's not a five is like they
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  Speaker 2: need this guy, like he is the ace. He is
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  Speaker 2: their guy, and if they're gonna do some damage throughout
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  Speaker 2: the postseason, it's him. It's he is absolutely relying on
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  Speaker 2: and they're gonna ride that horse. Like the Tigers winning
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  Speaker 2: window is not like it's not like it's just beginning
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  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be this thing like they they've they've
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  Speaker 2: got everything out of that team that they could this year.
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  Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong with her good team, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not like you're like, oh, this is anas buddy dynasty,
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  Speaker 2: Like it still got some cracks in the in the
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  Speaker 2: in the in the roster here. So they're gonna ride
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  Speaker 2: that arm and I think they're they're gonna like make
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna give another start, make sure he's good, and
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  Speaker 2: then they're going to grind in the postseason. So that's
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  Speaker 2: why why it's got a little bit more of watch
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  Speaker 2: for me, because it's that little bit of an injury
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  Speaker 2: and then you push becomes a big injury. That's where
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  Speaker 2: the risk is here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I totally agree, and I mean I
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  Speaker 1: think it certainly makes me scared if you have schooble
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  Speaker 1: rostered and you sort of keeper dynasty situation because you're
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  Speaker 1: just one bad toss, one bad tweak from this really
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  Speaker 1: going sideways. This is a guy who battled elbow injuries
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  Speaker 1: coming through the miners, which is we talked about this
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  Speaker 1: a little bit last week, where if I had to
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  Speaker 1: take a picture in the first round. I'd go with
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  Speaker 1: Skemes just because of that little blip of the former
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  Speaker 1: injury history for schoobl So it'll be I think fascinating
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  Speaker 1: to watch him going forward, because, like you said, this
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  Speaker 1: Tigers team is going as deep as Treek Schooble can
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  Speaker 1: carry them through the playoffs. Okay, let's move on to
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  Speaker 1: the next injury where I mean this guy. It's a
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  Speaker 1: totally lost season for Jordan Alvarez, who sprained his ankle
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  Speaker 1: pretty significantly is what they're calling it, when he was
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  Speaker 1: just crossing home plate the other night, just twisted the ankle,
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  Speaker 1: and I think when you read between the lines, I
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  Speaker 1: think he probably tore some sort of tendon or something
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  Speaker 1: in there. Will probably also likely be setting himself up
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  Speaker 1: for classic Kirk Gibson Freddie Freeman situation in these playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean that is if he plays at all,
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  Speaker 1: because Houston's being very, very cautious about what they're saying
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  Speaker 1: for Alvarez going forward. Wraps up a pretty garbage season
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  Speaker 1: from him that, considering you probably used a first or
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  Speaker 1: second round pick on him, put up a two seventy three,
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  Speaker 1: three sixty seven, four to thirty slash line. That's his
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  Speaker 1: career worst slug percentage only forty eight games, six homers,
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  Speaker 1: seventeen runs, twenty seven stone or twenty seven RBIs one
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  Speaker 1: stone base. So you did get the one stolen base.
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  Speaker 1: But what are you doing with Yourdan going forward? We've
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  Speaker 1: talked about this here and there, and it was more
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  Speaker 1: so in the in the realm of that hand injury.
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  Speaker 1: But you know he's got the knee issues. He can't
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  Speaker 1: apparently run across home plate without just totally jacking up
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  Speaker 1: his ankle.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be like, how do you trip on
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  Speaker 2: home plate? Like that's what I want to know. Like,
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  Speaker 2: but like like even if you watch it, like it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't like he's slid. It's just like somehow he put
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  Speaker 2: his foot down and it completely rolled in the opposite
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: direction where he's going, Like this is reminiscent of Freddie
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Freeman in the World Series last year. And but he
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: was like turning the corner like you'd almost running straight
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: in his ankle into the side, Like not logical, not
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: what you asked either, But I do think I am
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I am out, I am out on your going forward,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Like feel bad for anybody that has them in like
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: leagues in the playoffs eros this year because they didn't
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: put him on the il and just because they're like
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Jordan can still probably mash and they're looking at like
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: the Freddie Freemans scenario from last year, where like, give
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: him a few days at least, if the guy can stand,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: he's probably still a lethal bat at the plate, right,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: he could still do some damage. And so your Kirk
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Gibson scenario is actually really really astute, but it's gonna
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: just cause fantasy owners' nightmares and then I look forward
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: to next year, it is like, my goodness, this guy
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: just can't stand on the field. And it's not just
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: it's not just one thing, it's not just two things.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: It's like multiple, it's like three four, Like literally everything's
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: falling apart on Jorddan Alfroz at this point. So unless
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: like it's not like they can't protect him by putt
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: him a dhl's what he is.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think it's also gonna maybe start following
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: like the Marcelo Zuna route, where it's like, I mean,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Ozuna fell and drafts for other reasons, but like there's
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a similar sort of vibe where the injury risk is
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: there and if he hits, he hits, but like, do
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you really want it considering he's also really killing you
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: in stolen bases?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's also only one position. Like he from
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: a draft perspective, he clogs up the utility positions, so
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: you get stuck because you have to spend the heighth
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: of draft back and then yeah, man, if he drops
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: those Zulik draft capital this like how do you pass
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: on him? But like, man, it hurts, it hurts to
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: pick them. It sure does.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, next injury we have is to the All Star
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Will Smith from the Dodgers catcher there who has really
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it wasn't for cal Raley putting up
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the crazy season, this is the guy who probably would
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: have topped the list of is the best fantasy catcher
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: out there? Gonna end the season for him, it's a
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: hand contusion at two ninety six four or four four
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: ninety seven. So that's a great slash line there was
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: really found, just found a groove in terms of the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: walk rate really shot up for Will Smith. The plate
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: discipline really kind of kicked in. It is his let
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: me count it out to sixth. It was his seventh
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: year in the league, so I do wonder do you
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: think there is something to that in terms of catchers overall,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: where especially ones like this, if they can stay on
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the field, play in a great organization like the Dodgers,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: will Smith is kind of rounding into maybe that catcher
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: too behind cal Rally or where are you playing him
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: kind of on your fantasy board?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right, that's kind of where he
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: is the only downside with will Smith at this point
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: is he doesn't have what cal Rally and a number
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: of other catchers do in that kind of emerging catcher landscape,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: which is he doesn't have the other positions available. That's
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: really what's gonna hurt him. So he's not gonna be
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the guy that gets one hundred and fifty hundred and
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: sixty games worth of bats when he hasn't often he's off,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: and I think that's the thing that's gonna maybe pull
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: him back. Like I don't disagree that he looks like
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: that number two behind Rally, but it's a distant two.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: And when you're in like more weekly leagues, that might
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: kind of take him down even more because you're just
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: not confident you're going to always get those at bats
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: every time. But there is this thing about Catcher's which
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it seems that you know, historically they've taken time to develop,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: become you know, defensive first and then really grow into
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the bat Now I feel like I'm speaking of both
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: sides of my mouth this year with your you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Drake Baldwin's, Augustin Ramirez, you know a number of guys
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that are just coming up and just mashing, which is
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: kind of changed the landscape. So like, Ketcher's just in
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: a enigma this year, and I'm just so interested to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: see what it looks like next year. But Will Smith
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: absolutely in the top conversation, Kyle Rally wins the top,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and then then there's everybody else. I think Will Smith's
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: leading that charge.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think I'm there with you. It's the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: batting average, I think too, where he's a really really
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: sharp hitter. Now, So yeah, I think that that's spot
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: on for Will Smith. Let's stay in California for our
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: next injury. As we've got Zach Netto hitting the IL
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: with a handstrain. That's going to wrap up his season
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: for the Angels and another great season out of him.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I was really worried about that shoulder coming into twenty
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: two for Neto, I was dead wrong. Put up another
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty five season with twenty six homers
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and stolen bases. Apiece eighty two runs a little light
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: in the RBI is sixty two. Because he plays the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Angels two fifty seven batting average. You'll lift with it,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: but in one hundred and twenty eight games, So you
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: kind of paste that out. You can add one quarter.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: You're looking at somebody who is going to be pushing
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: thirty thirty on those paces next year. So is Neto
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: pushing his way into the second round conversation for you?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Or is there still just too much injury risk for
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you to push him that far up the board.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I think there's too much injury risk and just too
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: much overall. Like let's say bad as ball risks. Like
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: his profile under of the covers just isn't great, Like
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: he doesn't walk, he strikes out a decent amount out
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: like it is a volatile profile, and I don't know
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: what it is. But like zech Netto just doesn't like
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: ring like our speed bat. To me, he reads like
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: crafty middle dfield, like poking the ball around kind of guy.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: That's just what he feels like, I mean, the guy's
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: five eleven eighty five, Like that was like me at
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: one of my my playing days, and I just I
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: wasn't crushing bombs like like he is. And so like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I I think that he's one of those guys is
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: gonna have a really wide draft range next year because
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: he's gone twenty twenty and back to back seasons. But
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: when you look at the like savant numbers, you look
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: under the covers, like it's just not the prettiest version
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: of doing it, and like there's this weird stigma of
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: playing for the Angels that like you can't be that good,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: can you? It just doesn't play. So I think he's
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: gonna be he like he's gonna sneak into like I'm
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: gonna say, third round is probably where it's start being
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: in that conversation for me. But I think he's gonna
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: go all the way back to like the sixth or seventh,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Like there's gonna be a huge, huge array on him,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: just because I I don't know that you can fully
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: buy into it when you look under the covers, just
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: like how's he continue continues to do this and there's
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: not like a you can't look and there's a lot
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: like this luck metric. His home run for fly ball
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: is a little high, like for for a little guy,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: it's like eighteen percent, which is that's that's up there,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: but he's he's done it consistently. So I'm having trouble
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: buying in here. But yeah, it's hard to argue getst results.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly. I think it's a little bit
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: of like one of those classic dudes where the I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: mean Trevor's story is a little bit like this too,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: where the actual results on the field like sabermetrically very
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: meh across the board for zac Nato and now you
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: see it, it's back to back one fifteen WRC pluses
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: too because he doesn't walk. It's a six percent walk
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: right like pretty consistently, but like in a fantasy element,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: he really gets elevated. And I think there's always this
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: is the type of guy who there's always one believer
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: in every draft, so I don't end up with him,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: but you look up and it's always like you're like, man,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: why did I not keep up pace with this team?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And it's because I've got somebody like a zach Natto
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: where the the bottom can fall out of it. But
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: as it's working, it's working.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of Lane Thomas Like this, this is
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the Lane Thomas h conundrum of like I don't see it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I don't see it. It keeps happening, and then at
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: one point you're right like and it just fun like
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's like I finally getta buy
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: in because he's done it four years, agow, he's got
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty, he's one all these things. And then you
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: buy in and like nothing happens. You're like, well, okay,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: that's by fault, like I shouldn't have coupt believeing it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Like that's what I feel like with Neta, right, I
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: was like, I feel like the finally the year I
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: say yes, it's gonna completely fall flat so that I
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: probably won't own him just because like I just I
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: feel like I feel like the the cliff is coming. Yeah.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I mean as a word of warning, that was me
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: with jord On this year. So like I hate crow
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and TGFBI with that. So that's for sure. Uh okay, Well,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I mean that's going to kick off shortstop corner here
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: for us, because let's stick with another injury there at
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the six. But we're going back across the country to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: New York where we've got Anthony Volpi, where they haven't
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: placed him on the il. He's just kind of really
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: playing in a limited role for them right now. But
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: it was disclosed that he had been playing with a
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: laborum tear in his shoulder down the stretch throughout the season,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and so I mean, you can't fully fault him for
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the stat line. But then at the end of the day,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: it's pretty much about the spot on career stat line
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: of Anthony Volpi where this season one hundred and forty
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: three games, nineteen homers, sixteen stolen bases, a two oh
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: eight average, and it went with a twenty five percent
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: strikeout weight rate, seven and a half percent walk rate.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, the difference here compared to Neto is Vulpi
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: has a ten point two percent barrel rate, so he
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: hits at the correct angles, whiffs a little bit too much.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: What are you doing with Anthony Volpe going for it?
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Because this is a very confounding guy too, And it's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: just so confounding. I've just steered clear and tried to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't need a player like this every
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: year and so why roster him and deal with the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: headache when I can just find different options out there?
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Are you in that boat? Are are you maybe believing
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: in this going forward and saying, hey, you know what,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Anthony Volpe pretty young, twenty four years old. He would
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: have been taking it off if it wasn't for this
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: slabrom tear.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I'm a little in the second boat in that and
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I've been there for like two years now, and so
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: like it's starting to wait on me, because if you
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: look at this under the covers, like he's not lighting
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: up like all the metrics, he does chase a little
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: and makes a little too much contact. He doesn't, but
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: like you just go through the way he approaches the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: game and everything looks good. He hits the ball all
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: parts of the field, he has relatively decent patients of
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the plate. He's not overly aggressive, he's not overly chasing things.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: He's barreling the ball a good amount of time. He's
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: hitting it hard, like all these little things, like he
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: walks a little bit more, he doesn't strike out as much,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: and like it feels like he should be hitting two
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: fifty and going twenty twenty, and he's going twenty twenty
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and two to eight, and like, I think that's the piece.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And even like his underneath his ex batting of respect
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: bad Vers is always like almost two forty and so
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: it's you look at what he did last year and
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: he hit twelve homers and twenty eight steels two forty three,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and you're sitting here going, well, the power is just
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: he's he's maturing into that because he's he's again a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: smaller guy. He's five ten, one ninety seven, but he
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: knows how to use that ballpark. So like I just
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: keep looking at him, like how is he not doing better?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Is the part I'm really struggling with Bullpay because everything
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: looks good. I've consistently ranked him in like the top
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: one hundred like every year to start, and then like
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: he ends up dropping out because I'm like an idiot
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: as I finally realized that he's just gonna hit two hundred.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: So I'm really really torn. I think he's the guy
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I'm gonn I'm gonna continue to own like in that
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: middle endfield because if I can get a twenty twenty
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: bat that just seems like he can't quite figure out
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: the batting average. I think it's risk worth taking because
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I do think he's gonna figure it out at some
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: point here and the injuries to blame all these kind
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: of things, and the Yankees just stuck with him for
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: three years, Like you know, he does all these other
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: things so well, So like I think that it's gonna
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: at some point happen. It's just a matter can you
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Can you take the penalty until it does?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally I hear you. Yeah, it's tough. It
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: is tough because I think there is a very well
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: rounded skill set and it shows up on Savant and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: it's a tough call to make. But I guess it
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: will be very price based too, because you still came
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: into drafts this year if Wolpi was not very cheap,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If he does fall to
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: where he's a very back end and my option going
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: into twenty twenty six, then I might find myself fine
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: rostering him a little bit more. But that it doesn't
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: happen a lot with Yankees players.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: It does feel like what you almost want next year
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: to be is the Trevor Story situation. Right where he's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: at the back in the drafts. Everybody knows he's got
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the talent, everybody knows it, but there's these wars you
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: just I can't, I can't do it, and then you
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: take the gamble and all of a sudden, it just
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: keeps happening the whole year. You just keep looking like, Okay,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: when's the cliff, when's the clips? It keeps getting better
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and better, Like I feel like that's what's gonna happen.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I just don't know what you year that it's gonna be.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that totally makes sense. Okay, well,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: let's round out shot shortstop corner with the third player here.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: We're talking twenty three year old Mason Win who is
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: down for the season undergoing knee surgery and he's been playing.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I think they don't really spell it out. I'm trying
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to look through the story on this, but I don't
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: think they've ever kind of make a defensive line win
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Win Win started dealing with this knee injury. It is
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a minisc gets issued, but you have to think that
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: it probably happened sometime in August because month by month,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: the WRC plus is like they're kind of well, maybe
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: not WRC plus is the one to look at, but
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: batting average, you know, it's two sixty two, eighty nine,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: two forty three, two ninety two is where it peaks
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: in July two hundred, in August one ninety in September, So,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: especially as I was watching Mason Win play, you could
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: tell there was something just off, because before this he
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: was starting to kind of round into a player where
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I think he was probably going to start being like
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a breakout pick going into next year. You can see it.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: He's just kind of incrementally improved. And this is the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: type of player in Win where I've talked about. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: really love where they play for a couple of years
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: because of the defense learned, the game learned, the strike zone,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and win at shortstop for the Cardinals has really started
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: to develop like what I would say in A and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a B swing. Even though he is another one of
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: these tiny guys, he can unload on a pitch when
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: he wants to and is ready for it. The contact
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: rate has been increasing each year. I still believe in
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: him going forward, but if anything, maybe this kind of
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: dampers the price because he didn't ever reach double digit
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: homers and steals this year. Are you there with me?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Or you still a little more cautious on Win because
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: like I just did say he's five nine, one eight five.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: He's a little guy defense first, great ballplayer, gonna be
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a three to four win player every year in fangrafts
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: war but not for use in fantasy. Which boat are
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: you on here?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I think I'm in the boat that there is value here.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I just I think it is capped. Like I think
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be a guy that he needs to hit
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: the batting average, So that's what he needs to be
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: able to do. Because he's not He's probably never gonna
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: be much more than a fifteen to fifteen guy. And
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I think that's the kind of the downfall here. He
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: doesn't get on base enough to make it take advantage
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: of those those skill sets. So I think if he can,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: if he can stay healthy, hit eighty to ninety, then
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: he's a really, really valuable middle infielder. He's gonna score
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of runs. He's be the top that lineup,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: and so I think there's an value there. But I
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: just don't think it's ever getting to the point that
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: you're like, like, yes, I'm gonna plug this guy in.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: He's gonna continue to be the guy end of drafts
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: that you kind of say Okay, Well, at least I
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: know I'm not taking a zero in any category. He's
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: not gonna completely tank me. He's kind of replacement levels
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: plus in the fantasy game, which is fine. There's a
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: lot of value to that. Like they're having guys with upside,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: but I think he's gonna continuously be one of those.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Is a better real world ballplayer and great having the team,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: clubhouse guy, all these things, and then from a fantasy perspective,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: we're like, yeah, it's I had Mason Wynn. I didn't
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: win the league. I didn't lose the league, Like he
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: was just part of the cog that led me to
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the end of the season.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, So I think, yeah, we're kind of
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I'm a little more positive, but where it's gonna be
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: somewhere in that shade. But I do think it's a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: player where there are outcomes where he does make it
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: more to like eighteen eighteen three hundred, and then you're
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: talking something that's a little bit more dynamic. So last
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: injury we have, we're going to a prospect pitcher in
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the national system. It is not Travis Secora.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: This time.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: We're talking Harley and Susana, who was one of the
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: players that came back for Juan Soto had been down
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: for part of this season because of a ucl sprain.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Now is undergoing like a major injury in his latch shoulder,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: like it's just not really adding up and looking great.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: He was fantastic when he was out there pitching. Susana
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: really showed what he had been promised. And I mean,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: this is a guy who some people thought he would
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: make it to the majors this year when he was
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: in DOUBLEA, put up a three to six to one
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: RA with a fifteen point zero two K nine over
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: forty seven and a third inning, so it was electric stuff.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately, this is a lot of injury. This is
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: kind of starting to smell a little bit like Daniel
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Espino to me, where I don't know if the arm
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: can handle the talent. What are you gonna do with
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Susana in spots where you might have had him, especially
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: because he was certainly probably scooped back up in a
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: lot of places where he might have been fringy because
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the Double A statistics were so out of the world.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: They Yeah, this is a guy. It's very clear for
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: me what I'm doing with him if I have him.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting until he's in rehabbing getting happy reports and
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: he is leaving my team because I not just the injuries,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: but the profile, Like combined, it's like a pounding effect here.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have the control and he is destined for
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: a bullpen roll because of that. And like it's like
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: we're talking about he had a lot surgery. This is
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: a guy that missed two and a half months within
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the UCL injury and didn't have Tommy John as a
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: result of it. Like it it just seems like it's compounding,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: and I do I almost feel like there's something in
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the NATS system that they really seem to struggle to
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: take care of arms. I don't know if that's fair
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: or not. Maybe it's just Sikora. It's here that his
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: fate is causing me this this concernation, But it seems
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: like you get through reports it's kind of Ricky Teeman
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: esque as well. That's like he's great, he's gonna be okay,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: it he's gonna be okay. It's he'n be okay. No,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: he went under the knife. Like it feels a little
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: bit like that for both of these guys, and it's
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: it's concerning because you know, he he's not pitched that
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: much at the high level. He has forty seven innings
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: at double A and he's walked six guys per nine there,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: so like the stuff was electric, but electric, uh you know,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Ricky Vaughn had electric stuff, and that it's it's not
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: always the most successful. So I'm I'm out. I'm out
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: on Susana at this point.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. And I think, like I said,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I'm getting Daniel spino vibes here too, where it's like
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: once so talented, Yeah, once you're starting to compound some
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: like major injuries and a little bit like Tetaman too,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: where it's like shoulder, elbow, shoulder, uh me me elbow,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: like not great stuff. So I think I'm in the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: same boat where if you do have Harlene's Susana, try
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to capitalize on what value you can salvage from him,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: because the types of injuries he's going through are not
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: ones that tend to turn out very well. Okay, Well,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: with that we are at the end of our news
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and notes. We do just have one quick calendar update
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: on the baseball card releases, where well, first we will
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: be talking Bowman Chrome twenty twenty five next week, so
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: that releases on September twenty fourth. Come back here next week.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: We will do the overview of the checklist and get
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: into all the ins and outs of the rookie cards
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and chase cards and so on and so forth. Otherwise
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: we had Panini three and two push back another week.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: They just kind of Panini gets the short end of
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: the stick on their releases, and I've noticed this summer
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: they will shuffle those around forever because I mean, sorry
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: for the one person out there who Panini three and
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: two is your favorite product, but you're gonna have to
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: wait another couple of weeks. With that, we're going to
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: wrap up and we will take a short break. We're
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: going to be back on the other end to talk
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: about stashes from baseball card perspectives for both the playoffs
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and Japanese stars that might be arriving in the off season.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: So stick around, all right, Welcome back everybody. So what
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about for our main segment, here
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: are cards of players who we are looking to maybe
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: pick up in lou Of, well not in lou Of,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: but in advance of the postseason, just being right around
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the corner and really the postseason is one of the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: times of the year where the values of cards can
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: really spike, or they can just kind of really find
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: different echelons than they have throughout the season because everybody's
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: watching just a few baseball games. You see some big
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: moments they really go down in baseball history, and you
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: want to go out there and commemorate it by picking
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: up a card if it's one of your favorite teams
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and favorite players, or if you're just a big time
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: card collector like guys will put together you know, binders
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: of you know, alcs, MVPs and lcsmvps, World Series MVPs,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: lots and lots of different lists that you can get
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: on and then that creates something to be collectible. So
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: really what this was inspired by, if you go back
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: to the end of last year's postseason, we noted that
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the Tommy Edmund market just went through the roof when
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: he had that crazy World Series won the MVP. Oh no, no,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I'm mistaken. Freddy Freeman won the NLCS MVP went to
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Tommy Edmund, But when he had a couple of big
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: hits in the World Series two became a legend for
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the Dodger had a pretty small card market because just
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: not very many releases given the way it came through
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: that cardinal system and classics supply and demand economics kicked in.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: So we've looked at the teams out there they're going
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to the postseason and tried to identify some players where
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, a similar phenomenon could happen. So
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: you've got a couple of weeks to pick up in
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: some Nationals cards or it's a shout out too where
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: some of these guys are probably buried in really cheap
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: like ten for a dollar boxes or even your commons
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: if you're a big time collector and ripper and you
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: just kind of have a stack of rookie cards the
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: way I do. Sometimes these just base cards will go
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: up to five bucks and you can you can turn
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit of money on eBay pretty quickly. So
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: with that intro, is there any magic formula you put
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: together brew or is this a little bit of like
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: a hunt and peck and feel in terms of the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: art of trying to figure out which players you want
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: to pursue.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe a little bit of are, but
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: definitely I went with a little size here and the
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: theory I went with, was I want decent sized markets
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: for the players. I'm picking them because when we've seen
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: this in the past, it's been the Dodgers guy. It's
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: gonna be somebody that like just lights up the stage
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: and has been from a market that traditionally buys cards
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: at a decent rate, which is gonna be able to
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: give enough demand to translate. Also looking for guys that generally,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: to your point, don't have a robust card market or
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: availability in the card market, so having them is not
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: necessarily the easiest thing to do, and so they're gonna
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: kind of pop and that the supply is gonna be low.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: But also guys that like have made a name for them,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: just haven't been a name on the national stage. And
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for the role players. I'm looking for those
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: middle guys because all these guys that have seemed to
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: pop in the past, it hasn't been Gough Tanis, it
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: hasn't been Judges, it hasn't been those stars, because everybody
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: already knew they were stars. Everyone is already collective of that. Sure,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: their market jumped up a little bit, but your point,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I think Tommy Edmon was a great example last year,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Like going into the playoffs, you could have bought a
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Tommy Edmund autograph rookie card for thirty dollars. I'm thinking
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: like a Stadium Club chrome auto, which, by the way,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: if you haven't seen a fantastic card used to own it,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: don't anymore. Because the playoffs last year and that card,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I want to say five x and price overnight. When
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: he just went off and then got that MVP, his
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: card market was unbelievable. And that came because he's that
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: role player he did wasn't the biggest name for that
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: that team. So that's kind of the method that I
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: used as I looked at the looked at guys. So
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: with that, without further ado, first guy I'm going with
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: is Addison Barger for the Blue Jays, And with that
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: description all applied to Barger, blue Jays market actually is
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: pretty decent because their Canada's team and so it's a
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: little sneaky card market there, but they do buy pretty
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: gosh darn well people support there's a wide, wide breadth
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: of collectors in the Canadian market. This is the guy
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: that's hit well this year, one to eleven RC plus
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: hit twenty bombs. He's seventy two RBIs over undred twenty
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: four games. He has been like he's the cleanup hitter
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: there for the Blue Jays, but he's buried behind like
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Vlad Guerrero, Boba, Schett, Dalton, Varshow, George Spring or all
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: these other bigger names. And I don't think ads In Barger,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: for a non fantasy baseball playing card collector, has like
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: really hit mainstream. And if you go look at his
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: like available cards of the market, I don't think he
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: has a tops auto out there at all. You're really
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: talking don Ross Prism, you know, maybe even select autos,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Elite extra Panini stuff like it is. It's it's thin
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: what he actually has out there. So he's gonna if
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: he's the kind of guy that gets absolutely the talent
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: to go off and like I could just see it now.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: We're like the Alcs and Adison Barger takes out the
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Yankees or something like that, and oh my goodness, that
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: market is through the roof. Is absolutely can happen. So
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: he's the first guy I've got a little little target
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: out here for because nobody's nobody's really thinking about the
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Adison Barger card market right now.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so well, there also isn't much
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: of one because there's just not too many cards. Like
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: you said, there's he's never signed he must not have
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: ever signed a contract with Bowman Slash Tops because he
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a Bowman Auto either, has never been in
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: a Bowman set. Just showed up in Top's Chrome update
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and Holiday last year with a couple of Top couple
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: of Tops now releases, So it's a very limited set
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: of cards for Addison Barger, which makes it tough. Like
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: if you're a Blue Jays fan, he's one of your favorites.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: It also if he does have an iconic moment in
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, there's gonna be no as a
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Barge rookie cards available anymore because the Blue Jays do
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: have a pretty robust collecting market overall, like you've noticed.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: So it's like a it's a tough choice because it's
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: already inflated. Like you could see, the prices on Barger
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: cards are pretty high already, but it's gonna go higher
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: if something happens with him in the postseason, and so
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: do you pay that price if he's one of your players.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: It's like one of the ultimate conundrums in collecting.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Absolutely This is the kind of guy that if you're
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: like a card show and you're going through the dollar
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Ben you find like a rash of his colored rookies
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: or something like that, they're much more valuably think and
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: that's the stuff to pick up. So it might be
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a little too late now, but you got a few
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: weeks to still grab a few of these of as
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: some barger cards. So anyway, where'd you go? What's your philosophy?
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Is there anything specific that you're looking at as you're
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: digging for these guys?
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think you nailed most of the hallmarks. Maybe,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: like the one additional kind of consideration I like to
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: try to think about is just larger picture implications in
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: terms of is this dude on some sort of trajectory
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: where you could make an argument that in five years
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: we start talking about him being a Hall of Fame
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: track or something where it really kind of takes that
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: next level of just endearing itself into the hobby, either
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: because it's a player that has that extra flare and
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: flash that everybody remembers, or like I said, it's it's
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: something where you become one of the all time greats.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: So the first one I kind of picked with that
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: in mind is Hunter Brown from the Houston Astros. We've
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: talked about him recently just because he won that Picture
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of the Month and he's got a pretty nice set
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: of cards out there because of like we put like
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the All Aces card into our PC for when he
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: came up for a Picture of the Month, but lots
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: of fun sets that he's been in over the past
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: few years, and it's all realtectively affordable. I'm going on
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: eBay right now just looking for like a base Tops
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Chrome auto for Hunter Brown, who again reached it first
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: All Star Game this year. But you're looking at a
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: price where it's like twenty five to fifty bucks. That's
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: not too bad for a Tops Chrome first or Rookie
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: auto for a player of this caliber. When you're looking
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: at somebody who you know over the past two seasons
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: now has put together to a two eighty eight ERA
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: eight and a half war over the two seasons. I'm
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: looking at Baseball Reference, so that tells you just how
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: great he's been, and he's really turned himself into one
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: of the elite arms of the league overall. If the
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Astros girl on a deep run here, Hunter Brown has
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: a Hallmark game. In the playoffs, I think you're going
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: to see a lot of these prices take a little
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: bit of a tick up. And he is only twenty six,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: So right now he's amidst a six war season per
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Baseball Reference War that's pretty elite stuff in today's game.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: And so eventually they're gonna have to put some pictures
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame, you know what I mean.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: And he's got three straight seasons of double digit wins
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: only twenty six. You could see where, you know, Hunter Brown,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: if he keeps doing this for another ten years, it's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the precipice.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think this is a great call. Like Hunter Brown,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: like I steered away from pictures for the most part
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: here because most of your pictures in the postseason like
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be relied upon their big names, and for
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: whatever reason, Hunter Brown just does not seem to like
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: hit the upper echelon from a notoriety perspective. He just
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: continues to be unbelievable but not get enough credit for
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: it on the national stage. So I think that you
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: have a good point there because, like I've looked many times,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: I've got a number of his cards and like, I
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: just like, oh, this market's gotta be way better. And
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's a picture thing, right, generally pictures. It's yeah,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Pitcher's Astros just doesn't play it well, but he absolutely
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: could you know, win a series for the Astros, go
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: deep into a game, do something unbelievable, and that's that's
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: people are gonna recognize what that means. So I think
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: this is this is a good call.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, who is your next pick?
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I went with I took a stretch on this one.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna own it before I say it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: And I went with Auto Kemp for the Phillies because
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: we've talked about him before here and he's just got
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: this really steaky electric skill set that I just don't
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: understand why he's not getting more playing time with the Phillies.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: And he's been called up recently with some injuries and
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: he's been playing really, really well. And I think he's
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: the kind of guy that, like, no, he's very unassuming,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: nobody's really thinking about him, and he could absolutely, you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: win a few games. He could, he could have some
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: amazing defense, he could he could make a name for
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: himself and really summoned himself as like that third base
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: in the future for the Phillies in this postseason. I
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: absolutely think that that can happen. And then you look
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: at his cards. He has almost nothing. He has like
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a tops Now call up card, And then I was,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I was, you know, he has a number of those
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: minor league cards that you and I love, And I've
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: actually seen a few like auto of his minor league
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: cards in person, autos going already for like fifty or
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: sixty dollars because there's nothing out there. And I think
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: this is one of those ones where, like the top
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Now call up cards, if you have a few numbered
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: of those cards something like that, that you're probably paying
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: maybe ten fifteen dollars like that right now he goes off,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: those things are going to go through the roof because
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: it's all that's out there. And so I think that
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: the price of injury is really low here, and at
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's not a big penalty
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: because he doesn't have much on the card market and
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: still still some of his first cards. Again, he doesn't
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: have a bowman, doesn't have anything like that. And I
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: just think that this profile like screams like streaky breakout
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs at the end of the day. So
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Kemp, even though the supply is
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: really really thin. I think that's going to actually play
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: to his advantage if he does anything in the postseason.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just going to be a few minor cards really,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: so it.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Is like just just sneak like and nobody's thinking about it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Just sneak a few of those on your in your
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: collection right now and they could pay up off handsomely.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think that's a great call
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: because I don't think that Alec Bomas later come back
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: anytime soon with that system his shoulder. So Kemp should
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: have third base all to himself, and this Phillies team
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: is built for this playoff run.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that is a market there, That is
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: a card market. Philly's Phillies fans like to buy their cards.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean I'm sticking in Philly for my next
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: pick because I think this is honestly, this is the
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Tommy Edmund played to a t. So it's a little
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: bit maybe of cheating because I'm going with Harrison Bader,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: who first, have you seen what he's been doing with
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Phillies since he arrived from.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: And I saw it early because like I've I feel
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: like Baterer's dumb this, like this saved discussion like three
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: or four times. He just hasn't fully done it, Like
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: he like wherever he goes all of a sudden, because
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: he's an amazing person at he's a great defender, and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, like he hits for like
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: a month and everybody's like, oh my god, this is
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: the guy. And I feel like he's just keeps playing
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: that on repeat. He just hasn't done it in the
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: postseason and so yeah, like he's just again doing great
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: things for the Phillies and like people just love them,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: just love them. So I've tried to sell his cards
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: like seventeen times now because being a four cardinal, I've
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: got quite a few of them sitting around and Mark
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: doesn't quite get there, but he pikes. He spikes every
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: once in a while. Yeah.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: So, so far with Philly since arriving at the trade deadline,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: in forty games, he's put up four homers, twenty six runs,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: score at fifteen RBI, three point thirty three three ninety
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: two five oh seven slash line. That's a one fifty WRC.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Plus he's put up one point four war fangrafts war
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: in those forty games, so that's you know, you're looking
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: at just about a six and a half war pace.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do think he has found something in
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: his game where he started to settle out for a
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: little bit more. You can see it's a career hard
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: hit rate that is the best of his career. Between
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Minnesota this year also has been really posting
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: a great barrel rate across both locations. Actually it was
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: higher in Minnesota, an eleven and a half percent barrel
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: rate in Minnesota compared to ten and a half with
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the Phillies. But you can see this already in the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: market where I was scrolling back, you can see the
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: tail end of like right the tail end of his
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Minnesota time where you can pick up one of his
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: base tops chrome autos for five to ten dollars. You
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: can pick up actually I'm looking right now, there's a
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: green sapphire of fifty that went back at the end
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: of June for fifteen bucks. It's starting to tick up
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: because the base autos now are around fifteen ish. There's
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: something that will go ten some fifteen some twenty and
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: the Bowman Chrome models are starting to come out of
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the woodworks too, So this is the market's already picking
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: up here on Harrison Bader, and I think once everybody
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: kind of tunes in and sees how just fun he
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: can be when he's having a great time playing baseball,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: this beata market's about to shoot through the roof. So
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I think we also have a decent crossover of like
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Cardinals baseball card collectors that listen to this show, go
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: through those boxes, dig out your Harrison Beader rookie cards.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: They were back in twenty sixteen for Bowman Chrome first
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: or Bowman First and twenty eighteen for rookie cards. Because
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you there are Harrison Bader autos buried in
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: dollar boxes all across the country. So dig them out,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: flip them for an easy twenty bucks on eBay, and
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: enjoy your life.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's a great call. I still love me
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: some Harrison Bader. All right, Well with that, we are going.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: We've got one more pick apiece for the postseason before
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: you get into those Japanese guys, who's their last guy
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: for postseason pickups?
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to go to probably the biggest
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: card market, and there's two guesses. If you don't know
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: what that is, that's either New York or LA, and
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: it is LA. I don't think there's really any question
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: about that if you do sell a card here there.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to go with Andy Pahes. He is
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: absolutely killing things in the LA lineup. He's he's really
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: made a name for himself out there, but he is
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: buried at the end of the day. He is buried
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: behind so many guys that nobody really is talking about
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: what he has been able to do this this year.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: So I think he's the kind of guy that, so
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: look at this year's line He's played one hundred and
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: forty five games, twenty five homers, thirteen steels, two seventy
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: seven averages, is a one sixteen WRC plus, Like he
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: has been absolutely valuable, but he's just so buried under
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: that depth chart that people don't think about him as
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: the guy that drives drives that team forward. And so
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I think he has the talent to just go off
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: for a series here and just absolutely shoot his values
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: through the roof. And we talked about guys that have
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: cards out there, he doesn't have a whole lot like
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: early miners or things like that. There's just not a lot.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: But in the last year or so, he's gotten a
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: lot of cards out there, signed a lot of autos,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: things like that, and they're still relatively affordable, Like they're
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: eight to twenty dollars cards like autos for him, and
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: they're relatively accessible. Is twenty twenty four tops was his
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: rookie auto year, and so those are out there, like
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: a refractor you can pick up for maybe forty bucks,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: a base for maybe twenty And there's just a lot
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: to say there for a guy that plays in this
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: huge market that he can absolutely go off. And so
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's like a guy that we don't know.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I just don't think he's hit the card collecting community
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: because he hasn't had the moment, and I think this
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: postseason absolutely can give him that moment when you know
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: when Freeman No Tanyir fallen off, MOOKI hasn't done the
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: thing hes to do. Andy Payes is gonna come in
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: and just go like three homewer game or something crazy,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: and I think he has the skill set to do it.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: So he's the guy that I'm I'm keeping an eye
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: out in the biggest market, I had to get somebody
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: from the Dodgers.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is also a great call because
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit in the Hunter Brown vein too,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: where Andy Pyees is only twenty four years old, he
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: is not a free agent, and the Dodgers have no
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: reason really to move him until twenty thirty one. And
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: so you look at the timeframe where he's with the
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Dodgers here, they're gonna be the perennial World Series favorites,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: you know, for the next maybe every year. Twenty thirty
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: one might be the perennial favorites. So if this is
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: a guy who can rack up three, four or five
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: rings with the Dodgers, he enters that team level pantheon
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: of where like the card collecting market could really boost
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: it because of who it is and the team and
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: what it means that team. So really, I think an
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: important kind of thing to consider as you're looking at
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: those Andy Payes prices out there.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: All right, close us up. Who's the last guy that
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: you are keeping an eye on as we hit the
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: playoffs here that could make a big name for himself.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean, I don't actually know I didn't
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: put him in as a kind of playoff guy initially
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: because you know this, actually I was when we were
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: brought up this topic, guys thinking a little bit long
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: term two in terms of off season pickups to pair
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: with your Japanese players and guys who I could just
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: see the market kind of taking off. But then in
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: the meantime, the Guardians have also entered their way into
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the wild card conversation, so it could work that. I'm
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: looking at Kyle man Ziro's market right now. It is
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: extremely affordable. You're looking at Bowman first autos of the
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Chrome and Tops Chrome autos when he was well, those
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Bowman ones were going to be with the Rays, so
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: that's going to change that market a little bit. But THEO,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: but the Tops Chrome rookie card autos for Manzardo are
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: going to be in that Cleveland Guardians uniform, which will help.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: But I mean can be had for ten to twenty
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: bucks for most of them, Parallels go pretty cheap forty
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: bucks in under. This is a guy who I think
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: is going to be on a lot of kind of
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: like hype breakout lists going into next year's season and
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: fantasy draft. And I mean there's every reason for him
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: to be because have you been aware of the second
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: half of KYLEL. Manzardo so far? It's gotten a little
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: absurd here as we again we're speaking here on September seventeenth,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: So since the All Star Break, forty eight games, two
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: eighty average, eleven homers, seventeen runs, thirty RBI, and especially,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is why they shipped Carlo Santana out
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: of town, is because Kyle Manzardo has really rounded into
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: that player that we've been looking for, where I mean,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: this is a thirty five to home forty home or
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: bat just kind of waiting to happen, only twenty five
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: years old, and you just kind of put that mix
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: of ingredients together. You can see this guy maybe putting
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: up even like pushing something like forty to fifty homers
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: maybe next year if he unlocks another level. If you're
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: looking for somebody who can go kind of cal Raley
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty six, and we saw what happened
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: to cal Raley's market. It's insane. It's absolutely insane. I
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: just moved a bunch of cal Raley just base tops
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: chrome rookies for five bucks a pop. They are overprinted
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: out the wazoo, just the way these Manzardo ones are,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: But you can pick up a lot pretty cheap. I
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: think for Manzardo, stash them away and hope that he
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: does attain that fifty homer mark going into next year
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: in the future. So what do you think about Manzardo here?
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a ton of potential here. You're right,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: like we've always thought he's got a ton of talent,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: and it does seem like things are coming together and
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: there's not like there's not very much luck in the profile,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: like for that second half looks like it looks pretty
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: much legitimate. What I think is actually intriguing is that
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: you made the comment the gardens are not out of
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: the place off race. This is the kind of guy
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: that could like carry them to it and then through it,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: and that would just like put them into a different
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: echelon for the card market. I think that would be
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: really really fun to see. So I'm not ruling them
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: out for this year, but I think you had a
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: good point, like this is a good stash for next
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: year and especially as when we can do the off season.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: You know, we talked to this before buying baseball cards
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: in November and December and January and things like that.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: That market is low. It is low, people are not
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: thinking about it. That's the time to buy these things.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Kind of guys up and look for the next season,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: because it's all gonna take is you know, hot spring
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: or hot hot month, start the season and there's a
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: value there and you know they can maybe they go
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: all cal rally on you and their cards go through
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: the roof like ten x what they can be. So
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: there's a lot worse buys than Kyle Manzardo. So I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: think it's a good pick. All right.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Well, that wraps up the kind of like postseason guys
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: that we're looking at. So you have become the foremost
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: rasball expert on the Japanese card market. So I figured
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: this is a good time to consult you because now
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: is the time to start tucking away some of these
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Japanese superstars. You know, the past two years, we've seen
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Yoshinobo Yamamoto come over, We've seen Roki Sasaki come over,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: and I mean one factor I guess we should probably
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: think about it is maybe tariffs in the US in
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: terms of this going forward. I do know that like
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: it's made a little bit of the shipping chaotic, I
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: would say for eBay, as you know, those have been
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: implemented across the board, and it used to be pretty
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: easy to be able to tap into the Japanese baseball
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: card market through eBay, get a ship load of actual
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: like Sasaki and Yamamoto cards, bring them over a little
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: bit early, and then kind of be the first to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: the market. You know, if you can ship them out
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: when they're signed to their play to their new teams
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: from a US location versus a Japanese location, that gives
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: you your leg up. Plus if you maybe are at
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: shows great trade bait as well as being able to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: slap them down live in front of people instead of
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: you know, the theoretical eBay listing that might be in
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Japan to show them what you got. So, like I said,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: it might be a little more chaotic, but if anything,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: that gives you even all the more reason to get
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: in on trying to get these players early. So there
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: are different types of cards over in Japan. You know,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: there are Tops cards, but there's also BBM is a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: really big brand over there, and so you can find
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: all sorts of cards in English and Japanese. Rookie cards autos, patches.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Everything that it's in the American market in the North
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: American market is over there in Japan too. So with
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: all that said, Brew, I know that you've been really
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: great at playing this market with Yamamodo and Sasaki the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: last few years. What players are you targeting here going
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty five offseason that you think could
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: be posted pretty soon and have similar types of hype.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's there's a three pack here, and
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I think there's one that I would be shocked if
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: he was not posted, like it just makes all the
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: sense in the world. And then there's another two that
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: I think, uh definitely have the potential U for that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: that to happen. So let's start with the big name here,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: and that is twenty five year old Munataka Murakami. He
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: is an absolute beast. If you want to talk about
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: like pure stars of leagues like Murakami in Japan right
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: now is basically like how I want to say, is
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: your cal Rally, is your Aaron Judge? Like it is
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: like one of the top players. We're gonna go back
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: to his his kind of what put him on the
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: map as a twenty two year old in twenty twenty two,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: the guy hit three eighteen with fifty six homers, one
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty four RBIs and twelve steals well nearly
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: walking as many times as he struck out. That was
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: a wr R plus two twenty five over a full season. Unbelievable.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: And then and then so the last few years he's
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: had down seasons where he's averaged like thirty homers, hit
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: more like two fifty, and he's he's batted a little
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: bit of injury here and there, strike ups have jumped up,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: and so it's cooled a little bit on him. And
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: I think this is very similar to kind of the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: road that Sasaki took, which is like he came up
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: really hot and then kind of tailed a little bit.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: But this year he was coming off of injury and
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: so he missed a good part of the season. Through
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: forty four games, he's hit nineteen homers, he has uh
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: got thirty nine RBIs for good for a two to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: eleven WRC plus. He is peaking at the right time
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: and really really gonna be an intriguing bat to come over.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: He's also a pretty decent uh you know fielder, maybe
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: not the best. He's he's gonna probably end up being
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: more of a first baseman. He plays mostly third over
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: over the pond right now, and so I think that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: that might be a little bit drawback at the end
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: of the day. But like this, this guy is an
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: absolute beast, and so Murkamie's market is a little bit
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: harder to buy into right now because he is such
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: a star over there that even that market is hot,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: and so you're trying to buy, you know, a good
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: relic for communists, like forty fifty bucks. You're trying to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: They don't really do autos too much. There are some,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: but they're very very rare over there. They do fasimile autos,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: they do gold and silver ones, and so those you're
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: going to probably pay ten fifteen dollars like that. And
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: then they have some amazing, amazing inserts, especially that BBM
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: set that I have really seen guys like Roki and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Young Moto like as they come over there. Just beautiful cards.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: They make great card art that you want to plan.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: The other thing i'd call out for a lot of
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: these guys. Tops Chrome started producing cards in the Japanese
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: market in twenty twenty one, and so a lot of
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: people look at those as they're like quote unquote rookie
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: cards like they have them in BBM two, but hard
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: to get their expensive because everybody knows is the rookie card,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: but a lot of collectors look at their first TOPS
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: card also as one of those that you would look
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: to buy. So murk Comy he's out there. I've personally
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: been buying Mura Comi for over a year because there
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: was a very slight chance that he could come come
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: over last year. But his prices are starting to go
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: up just because of how unbelievable he's been this year,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: and so if you're looking to buy like his twenty
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: twenty one top scroll, like I said, that was considered
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: like his kind of rookie from a TOPS perspective, The
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: goldruf factor of fifty just sold for about two hundred
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: and forty dollars, and so it is jumping up there,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: but you're still seeing a lot of the inserts in
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: the five dollars range. The bas is still that five
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: to ten dollars range. But he does have a very
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: robust Japanese card market at this point, so there's a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: lot a lot out there. But I think he's going
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: to be a guy that gets called over the vast
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: majority of these players that come over get posted go
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: to big market teams. And there's two selling points. There's
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: the second they get posted because all of a sudden,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: everybody knows who this guy is and they hope their
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: team gets them, and they want to buy the card
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: to have it. And then there's when they sign, and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: so you want to be ready for both of those.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: So I'll take a breath here. I love Love Murakami.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: You can probably tell. What do you think about Munataka Murakami.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think One thing I want to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: add is he's got World Baseball Classic cards too that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: have sold in America, so those will also I think,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: shoot through the roof too when he signs. So look
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: for those cards. They should be much more easy to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: get your hands on if you don't want to go
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: to the Japanese route. Not only the World Baseball Classic
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: set that kind of came out for the last one,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: but also the tops Now set. He's got cars and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: all of them, as he was on that team that
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: won the title with Shoho Tani there. The other thing, too,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: is like I can't emphasize enough that this dude is
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: coming over. This offseason, he absolutely is. He plays for
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: the Yakult Swallows, who are the worst team in the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Central League in NPB. There's no glory to play for
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: on that team, and I think that like it's gonna
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: be like the Sasaki situation where he's not ready to
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: be posted technically to hit that like free agency wall
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: or whatever they have over there. But I think he's
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: going to force his way out because the other factor
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: here is, I mean, it's kind of rote, but the
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: odds on favorite it has got to be the Dodgers.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: And look what corner infield spot opens up this offseason
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: because Max Mountsey has a team option and can tell
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: you they're not going to pick that up. Because I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: think the Dodgers are probably gonna turn that corner spot
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: that they've dedicated to Max Munsey the past few years
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: into mura taki, mura taki, mura taka murakami. Sorry, that's
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a lot, it's a mouth bowl, especially
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: when we've been podcasting here for an hour and twenty
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: minutes or so. But this dude's gonna be a super star.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be huge. It's eighty great power from Fangrafts too.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: They've already put him in like the prospects spranking, so
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: you can see that the hockey stick is already starting.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: And so if you want to get in on any
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Murakami cards, you gotta do it now. So, yep, this
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: is the great pick. This is the big guy that
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I knew that we wanted to talk about. But there's
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: still two more that are really big stars and waiting.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: So tell us about the next one that you have
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: started to tuck away.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the next guy.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go to the pitching side of things here, and.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna just level set this guy between
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: shoto I Managa and Yoshiniba Yamamoto as far as like
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: where where you should be looking at him from like
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: a coming over hype perspective. He's not Yamamo, but he's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: he's something and this has taught to you Imai, and
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: he's would be looking to come over from the I
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: think Sebu Lions. There's a little bit of question there.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: He's actually gonna be a true free agent after the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty sixth season, so this is their last chance
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: to post him. That said, they've already agreed to post
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: their other ace Kona Takashi, and that would be posted
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: like it's like going like the Dodger saying, you know what,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: I just can't do it, and I'm gonna say I'm
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: gonna take my two best pitchers and just send them elsewhere.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Because Sevil Lions are also a pretty decent team, so
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: like that would be really really hard for them in
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: their fan base. But that's this is the last chance
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: for them to get something out of him. But Imai
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: is going to be twenty eight going into next season,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: and he's a little bit different than a lot of
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: the pictures over in in Japan, And this is what
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: I actually really really like. He's a power pitcher. You
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: think a lot a lot of these guys coming over
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: they're not full power pitchers. They've got an arsenal, they've got,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of different pitches. He's a guy
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: that can bring it ninety nine. He can absolutely do that.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: He's you know, he was he was up in the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: professional ranks as a twenty year old. So he's now
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: got eight seasons under his belt at this point. So
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: there there's definitely some some innings on it. But in
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, one hundred and forty five innings. He
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: has struck out ten per nine, walked two point four
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: per nine, grand ball ry of forty nine ERA of
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: one point six seven. Guy has been basically unhittable, and
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: that's after three straight years of eras in the two
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: threes or two fours, and it is backed up by
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: all the all the peripheral numbers. So this is a
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: guy that absolutely, like he honestly could be the highest
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: paid starting pitcher free agent this year because he is
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: still young. He's still going to be just twenty eight eight,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a weaker free agent classroom starting
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: pitching perspective, So there's just wouldn't be a shock to
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: see him just reel in an absolute deal looking at
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: other pictures that will be twenty eight you know, we're
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: talking like Michael Soroka, like you want to dream on
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: this guy here, And then I think as you look
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: at the card market side of things, like he's pretty cheap,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: like because it's a picture, and like he's you know,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: he's not Murra Comi. He's not like he's the top
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: guy over there, and you can absolutely buy you know,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: a number of his cards for reasonable prices, like you're
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: you're looking at, you know, inserts in the two to
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: three dollars range, the similar autos and maybe the ten
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: fifteen range, maybe some of the golds a little bit
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: higher than that. And you know his rookie cards maybe
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: sixty bucks, things like that, and there's just again really
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: really beautiful cards and not a huge, huge market yet.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: People just don't know who he is. Where More Comedy
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: was talking about last year in the US, this nobody's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: really talking about my He's also kind of like the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: second fiddle, even on his own team from a posting perspective.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: And so this is a guy I'm picking up now
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: because if he's not posted this year, he is gonna
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: be here next year. He's like, because he's gonna be
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: a free Asian next year. He's guaranteed. And so I'm
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: picking this guy up left and right because I think
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have a robust market. People are gonna get
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: really excited about him when he comes over. So anyway,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: you can't let me talk about the Japanese players on here,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: I will go on forever. What do you think? Am
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: I crazy? Do I love email a little too much? No?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I mean I think this is also the guy, the
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: type of guy we're talking about where I think he
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know too much about him personally, but just
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: from the pictures, this dude's got flow. He's got some letuce.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: It's like somewhere between Chota Yamanaga and ten Linsecam where
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: just like flows out the back of his cap. And
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's currently rocking being blonde, but
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: he has gone blonde in the past and looks amazing.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: So I think that there's something to Emi here where
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: it's got a little bit that flare, where Imaniga has
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: had this too, where you know Yamamoto has not, I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: would say where Yamamoto is kind of a boring dude overall,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: there's not much personality. It seems to me like Imai
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: has more of the Imaniga personality, which I think can
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: make him more fascinating from a card market perspective. So
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is a guy who probably
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't end up on the Dodgers, but the Cubs are
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: probably going to be right there, the Yankees, the Mets,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a big market team that signs a
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: MI So I think this is a great investment and
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: fun trivia question. Who do you know who leads the
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Sabu Lions in home runs this year?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's gonna be Eric Tames or somehow,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: but like, who is it?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: It's Tyler Nevin, which is great. It's a great cut
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: because I remember writing about him last year when he
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: got hot for like two weeks if you remember that.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: So that's great.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Waiver wire guys always coming through.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Always, Yeah, they show up everywhere. All right, you've got
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: one more player that you're stashing for those Japanese cards
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: coming over this offseason.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Who is it? Yep? So this is another one that's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: not a guarantee to come over this this winter. It
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: is from the Ya Murray Giants, Kazuma Akamoto. The reason
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: I say now guarantee is the Giants do not like
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: to post their players. But he is a guy that,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: like I think again, gonna be a free agent soon.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: I believe it's after after next year as well, because
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: he has been in MPB for eight years as well.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: He was twenty two when he got come up, and
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: he has literally hit every single year phenomenally. He did
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: deal with some injuries this year and so that's kind
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: of helped him back. But like this is like Albert
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Poole's esque start to a career. He has six seasons
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: to start his career with thirty or more home runs
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: and then he hit twenty seven last year. And it's
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: just unbelievable control of the bat, like you just don't
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: see in our in our game over here. It makes
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: me thinking maybe kind of like an Alex Bregman kind
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: kind of guy who has really good bat control. This year,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: fifty eight games, eleven homers, three nineteen average, He's walked
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: almost eleven percent of the time, struck out twelve percent
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: of the time. He as a WRC plus of one
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: ninety six. He is a pretty good defender as well.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: He's probably you know, gonna, you know, might end up
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: over at first base long term because I think, you know,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: the defense is a little bit different when you when
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: you get over. But again, there's just a ton of
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: ton of power in this bat, and it's just a very,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: very mature a hitter. So I think, you know, the
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: concern with him is is he gonna be able to
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: hit the fast balls you'll be able to take up
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: because there is kind of a difference as he comes over.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: But like with the power he has, Yeah, the average
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: was going to drop down a little bit. But that's
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: what we're buying these cards for. We're buying the cards
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: for when he gets posted and when he gets signed.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: And if you like, this is the kind of guy
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: you can sell all day. Just look at those numbers
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: that he's put up over his career, and you're you're
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: gonna be absolutely thrilled if you're if your team signs him,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Like he's his career home run in in PB two
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: hundred and forty four already and he's in a age
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: twenty nine season, So I don't know, this guy is
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: is exciting as well. Of all three of these guys,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: this guy has the lowest card market because he's done
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: it very consistently, but I don't think people expect him
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: to fully be posted. I've been picking up for like
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: refractors of his base in PB from twenty twenty one
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: for like a dollar or two, Like they're just they're
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: incredibly cheap and incredibly available, so they're like, that's what
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: I love about this. There's some low, low risk, high
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: reward because again I think these guys, these guys, all
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: three will make it to the US and as a
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: matter of time and they're going to sign some decent
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: sized contracts.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think this is a great quality with
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Okamoto and also just a great player because I'm pretty
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: sure I have the card from the tops Chrome NPB
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one when some of that made it stateside,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: and I think especially lots of folks will probably have
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: it because those packs are in tons of the blister
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: packs that are sold at like Walgreens and CBS's. And
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: if you're a degenerate card ripper and collector the way
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: you are we are, you know exactly what cards I'm
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: talking about, because they're in these little blister packs that
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Walgreens for like eight bucks for a couple of hobby packs.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: And if you've got those base cards, or if you
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: pulled a refractor of Okamoto and then you've just got
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: to lying around, go dig it out, because like brew
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: just said, might be able to turn a couple bucks
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: off of it as he gets signed and people actually
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: recognize who it is where you know, probably ended up
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: in plenty of comments piles, and something that will just
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: kind of tick up from being just above worthless to actually, like,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: you know, a couple bucks in your pocket. You can't
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: beat that for card collecting.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say, just if you play this game,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: it is a little bit of a tricky game. The
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: one thing I would I would warn is don't wait
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: until the season actually starts. Rokie is a great example.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: His market was never higher than the moment he was
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: announced coming over and then the moment he signed, and
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: actually probably a little lower than he signed because everybody
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: knew where he was going to sign the entire time,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: and so that market was incredible. Like you, I remember selling.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: They have what they call is Kira inserts in the
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: BBM sets, which if you think about tops chrome, that
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: would be like a Prism refractor. And I remember signing
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: a Roki one for like fifty when he was posted
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: just just it's an insert. And then I had another one.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: I got it graded. I got a PSA ten, and
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: like it was going for like twenty bucks when the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: season hit, because he was he was scuffling things like that.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a second, I sold the ungraded the
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: card for one of the you know, two and a
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: half times what I did for the PSA ten. So like,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: you know, that market will cool if the performance doesn't come.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: On the other side, there's Alos the Otani version like
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: that that can happen as well. So there's a lot
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: of fun that can be had in this marketplace and
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: it's just a different way to look at the hobby.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Oh right, Yeah, I think that's gonna wrap us up
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: for this week. So I think that's great suggestions across
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: the board in terms of different levels of investments you
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: can be making on postseason players and Japanese stars. So
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: if you've got anybody that you're thinking about out there,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: certainly reach out to us. You can connect with us
• 1:20:49
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• 1:20:52
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• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: Let everybody know where they can reach out to you
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: and contact you if they would like.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Yep, find me on Twitter x, blue Sky, Jabrewer one
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: seven ras Bull on the weekends doing our hitter profiles.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm still hired for the rest
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: of the season. We are closing things out here, so
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: come inter act if you want to talk with us,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: you can always go back in the archives and find
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: us Slayer as well. Coolly what about you?
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, you can find me on Blue Sky at m
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: cool seven and you can find me I've got my
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: final piece this weekend, because yeah, you don't need like
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: a two day waiver piece, so it'll be rounding out
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: the season on Saturday, getting in those last pickups for
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: matchups there specific so certainly come check that out. We're
• 1:21:37
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• 1:21:39
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• 1:21:43
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• 1:21:45
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• 1:21:50
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• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: and with that, we're gonna wrap it up for this week.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: We will be back next week talking twenty twenty five
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: BOWM and Chrome, so we'll see you then. Take care
• 1:22:01
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