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10-6: Firing Squad Approved For Fort Hood Terrorist. Should We Televise It? · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: Well, it's not every day that a two-word phrase dominates
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  Speaker 1: the headlines, and this is a top-trending story and topic
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  Speaker 1: in the country right now, and it's this. Firing squad.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. After Pete Exit, Secretary of War, more
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  Speaker 1: on him in a second, and President Trump now have
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  Speaker 1: signed and approved the death penalty by firing squad for
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  Speaker 1: the Fort Hood Army Base shooter. It happened in 2009.
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  Speaker 1: Which leads us to only one question. Should we televise it? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you think I'm being like extreme and it's hyperbole and
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  Speaker 1: just doing that for clicks and attention. No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Because beside that trending topic and that number one news story,
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  Speaker 1: Firing Squad, which is back and is only going to
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  Speaker 1: dominate the conversation even more from here on out, the
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  Speaker 1: follow-up question that everyone has is, let's live stream it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's televise it. I want to see video. I want
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  Speaker 1: to see this. I want to see that. And just because,
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  Speaker 1: now I do this because you don't have to. I
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  Speaker 1: went into the CNN story last night on X and
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  Speaker 1: I read the comments. About 100, 120 of them. Scrolling
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  Speaker 1: down real quick. Again, I do this so you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to. Looking to see what the average CNN audience
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  Speaker 1: and viewer and news consumer would feel about this issue.
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  Speaker 1: And the majority of the comments were people saying exactly that.
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  Speaker 1: Love that. The words justice, finally justice. and televise this thing.
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  Speaker 1: This is a different world. But the reaction to this
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  Speaker 1: thing is going to be fascinating to watch. Look from
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  Speaker 1: now on, because this story broke late yesterday afternoon in
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  Speaker 1: the news cycle. Look to see who's against it and
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  Speaker 1: who's defending the Fort Hood shooter. More on that dirtbag
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  Speaker 1: in a second. But thanks for finding me. Wow, this
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  Speaker 1: is a fascinating story. So many angles to this thing.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for finding the Wicked Radio livestream. Appreciate you, as always,
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  Speaker 1: so much. Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. ish, Eastern Time
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  Speaker 1: on X and YouTube and Facebook. The replay is always
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  Speaker 1: podcast of the complete episode, the complete show, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: uploaded to your favorite podcast audio platforms. Let's go back
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  Speaker 1: in time here for a little second. And it's a terrible, horrific,
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  Speaker 1: horrifying story. And I'll never forget, there are certain times
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  Speaker 1: in 2009. So I was still in the information business,
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  Speaker 1: but this in a music radio format. This is how
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  Speaker 1: long ago this was. I remember breaking this story and
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  Speaker 1: talking about it and could not understand, like most people
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  Speaker 1: in the country did, how this kind of thing happens.
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  Speaker 1: Because you hear, you know, again, remember what 2009 was.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have, we had phones. We didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: instant information like we do right now and instant reaction
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  Speaker 1: and instant details. You might not remember this, but sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it took many hours and then sometimes days before you
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  Speaker 1: got the true story of what's going on. That's different today.
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  Speaker 1: This is 2009 now we're talking about. I remember hearing
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  Speaker 1: Fort Hood shooting. That's horrific. Some sort of maybe, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: sort of, some sort of an army psychiatrist involved in
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing. And then they found out later on
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  Speaker 1: that he was the actual shooter. And then the predominant
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  Speaker 1: question that happened with everybody, including me, was, hold on,
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  Speaker 1: it's an army base. How did a shooter shoot that
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  Speaker 1: many people? And the horrific tragedy was killed 13 people
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  Speaker 1: and wounded 32 others. shouting, God is great. We all said,
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  Speaker 1: why didn't they just, it takes a long time to
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  Speaker 1: kill that many people and maim that many people. How
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  Speaker 1: did they not take them out on an army base?
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  Speaker 1: And for the first time for a lot of us
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  Speaker 1: in this country, we learned what a gun-free zone was.
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  Speaker 1: An army base where trained shooters were not able to
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  Speaker 1: take out a terrorist within their ranks and because they
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  Speaker 1: weren't armed within the ranks. That's the insanity that had
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  Speaker 1: been creeping up into our country, including in the military.
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  Speaker 1: And Pete's eggs have had plenty to say about that
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  Speaker 1: here recently. But let's go back. We'll give you the story.
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  Speaker 1: Here's some more details. This is every... Every major news
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  Speaker 1: network talking about this thing right now. Here's the horrific details.
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  Speaker 2: Faces death by a military firing squad. Former Army psychiatrist
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  Speaker 2: Nadel Hassan killed 13 people and wounded 32 others in
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  Speaker 2: the 2009 attack. Shouting God is great in Arabic as
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  Speaker 2: he opened fire on fellow soldiers who were preparing to
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  Speaker 2: deploy overseas. Hassan was court-martialed and sentenced to death by
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  Speaker 2: lethal injection in 2013. But now President Trump has approved his...
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  Speaker 2: execution by firing squad after a recommendation by the Secretary
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  Speaker 2: of War.
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  Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth made this statement as soon as he got
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  Speaker 1: the job or shortly after getting the job. So this
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  Speaker 1: should be no surprise that he was pushing for this
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  Speaker 1: and he finally got it done. This is a quote
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  Speaker 1: from Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War, about this in September
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  Speaker 1: of 2025. It's over a year ago now. And this
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  Speaker 1: is his quote. No video, but a quote that he
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  Speaker 1: sent to major news organizations regarding this very same shooter,
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  Speaker 1: this terrorist in this case. Quote from Pete Exit, I
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  Speaker 1: am 100% committed to ensuring the death penalty is carried
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  Speaker 1: out for Nadal Hassan. The savage terrorist deserves the harshest,
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  Speaker 1: lawful punishment for his 2009 mass shooting at Fort Hood.
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  Speaker 1: The victims and survivors deserve justice without delays. And boy,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to see a lot. A lot of comments
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  Speaker 1: today and a lot of reaction from a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the family members of those victims and possibly some of
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  Speaker 1: the actual victims who were able to talk still who
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  Speaker 1: suffered through this entire thing. And you're going to hear
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  Speaker 1: a lot of legal experts chiming in on this too.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them who are working to get the death
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  Speaker 1: penalty for him way back when. Some of them now
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  Speaker 1: will be fighting against that. But here's a guy that
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  Speaker 1: was a former U.S. District Attorney who was very familiar
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  Speaker 1: with this case. Fox News grabbed him just this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what he said.
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  Speaker 3: Former Assistant U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Attorney Jim Trustee joining us now.
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  Speaker 3: Jim, what was your reaction when you heard this yesterday?
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  Speaker 4: Relief. You know, this guy's a monster. You think about
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  Speaker 4: those numbers, 13 dead, 32 wounded. He purposefully targeted unarmed soldiers,
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  Speaker 4: knowing they'd be unarmed at the time he attacked them.
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  Speaker 4: And his only kind of defense was Alawah Akbar. That's
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  Speaker 4: all he had to say was... I was in my
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  Speaker 4: right mind. I was doing something that was essentially jihadi.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the entire time. There was never an apology from
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  Speaker 1: this guy.
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  Speaker 3: Never.
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  Speaker 1: Radicalized Islamist terrorist? Yeah, obviously. Yes, of course it is.
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  Speaker 1: But remember at the time in 2009 was just about
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  Speaker 1: the time when you couldn't say that. You couldn't say
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  Speaker 1: it because you didn't want to offend. We even had
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  Speaker 1: John Brennan from the intelligence community saying, we apologize and
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  Speaker 1: we don't want to offend. We don't want to offend
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  Speaker 1: the Muslim community. Well, I think those days are over.
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  Speaker 1: And going by, again, the comments that I've seen on
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  Speaker 1: social media from most people who typically you would think
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  Speaker 1: would be, oh, well, the death penalty is just too savage.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. So back to the original question here,
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  Speaker 1: which is the question that a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: going to ask about this, about a public execution for
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  Speaker 1: this terrorist that killed 13 of our best and wounded
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  Speaker 1: 32 others at a base in Texas in 2009. It's
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  Speaker 1: not such a crazy question because a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: in your life are going to be asking it. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you are too, and I am too. Should we televise it?
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  Speaker 1: Is that an actual deterrent to stopping crimes like this?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But it's going to be fascinating to see who actually
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  Speaker 1: defends this. It's going to be amazing to see. And
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  Speaker 1: we're not exactly, you know, as we sit here in
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  Speaker 1: real time, unless you're watching or listening to this later
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning, this is still fresh because it came
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  Speaker 1: out just yesterday afternoon. So all the news heads and
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  Speaker 1: the news directors and the producers and the network executives
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  Speaker 1: for the mainstreams, haven't completely put their heads together on
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  Speaker 1: this quite yet. They don't know what their angle is
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  Speaker 1: going to be. But there'll be some sort of a
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  Speaker 1: panel on CNN tonight and some lunatic knucklehead will try
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  Speaker 1: to defend him and say that this is too barbaric
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  Speaker 1: and this is too crazy. And even people in your
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  Speaker 1: personal life are going to say, no, that's not what
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  Speaker 1: we are. That's not what we are as a country.
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  Speaker 1: We don't kill people by firing squad. I'll ask this question.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's the problem. Maybe there's not a deterrent. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: they know, like this... lunatic to evil terrorist that's been
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  Speaker 1: sitting on death row in isolation since 2013, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: That's when they finally wrapped up. That was long enough
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  Speaker 1: was the court case. It's been sitting there the entire time,
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  Speaker 1: still alive for some reason, while 13 are dead. And
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  Speaker 1: the 32, by the way, it makes it sound like
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  Speaker 1: they're survivors. I looked it up this morning just to
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  Speaker 1: refresh my memory on the case. Most of them have
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  Speaker 1: not even a functioning life, not even a foot, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into the kind of life
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  Speaker 1: that they have, but it's not one that most of
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  Speaker 1: us would want to live. So you can almost put
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  Speaker 1: many of those 32, finger quote, survivors on top of
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  Speaker 1: the 13 that he killed at Fort Hood as well
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  Speaker 1: because they couldn't fight back. The most amazing thing and
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  Speaker 1: horrifying thing and lunatic part of this entire story was
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  Speaker 1: understanding that this was a gun-free zone at a base
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  Speaker 1: where people couldn't take him out. Still would have been damaged.
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  Speaker 1: But you don't think that this terrorist knew that no
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  Speaker 1: one could fire back? He didn't know the ins and
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  Speaker 1: outs of what this gun-free zone at the time at
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  Speaker 1: Fort Hood, Texas was all about and the lunacy of
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  Speaker 1: that and how crazy that is? It sounds so nice.
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  Speaker 1: It's a gun-free zone. We all want gun-free. Gun-free zones
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  Speaker 1: get people killed when bad people understand what they are.
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  Speaker 1: It's a tale as old as time. Again, on the surface,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds so nice. Not in this case. The first
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  Speaker 1: takeaway is when anybody ever pushes a gun-free zone for you,
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  Speaker 1: that means the bad guys have soft targets. That's all
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  Speaker 1: that means. That's all that will ever, ever mean. And
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  Speaker 1: that's a direct result of and proof positive in this
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  Speaker 1: story with Fort Hood, Texas in 2009. Now, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of families of these survivors that are there or
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  Speaker 1: families of the victims of the 13 that were killed
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  Speaker 1: in the Fort Hood terrorist attack. Why not? How tough
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  Speaker 1: would it be? Why not have them involved in this?
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  Speaker 1: They're going to witness it, obviously. And I'm sure there'll
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  Speaker 1: be some kind of video from one of them leaked
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  Speaker 1: of this entire thing, but not officially televised. But is
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  Speaker 1: it such a crazy ask to maybe have them involved
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  Speaker 1: as some of the shooters? Firing squad? The whole point
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  Speaker 1: of the firing squad is you don't know exactly which
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  Speaker 1: one is killing them. Do we have some of the
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  Speaker 1: family members actually firing some? You could train them in
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  Speaker 1: a day if they don't have gun skills. They probably
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  Speaker 1: do by now after living through what they've lived through.
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  Speaker 1: Could we have some of the family members representing the
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  Speaker 1: victims shooting at the terrorists to kill them? I'm totally
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  Speaker 1: in favor for that. Absolutely. But the main thing you're
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  Speaker 1: going to hear today And for weeks on out, and again,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be fascinating to see which networks, which
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  Speaker 1: talking heads, and which people are against this. Oh, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not just. It's not right. Firing squad is barbaric.
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  Speaker 1: Going to hear that term a lot today. You mark
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  Speaker 1: my words. Well, as luck would have it, well, not
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  Speaker 1: luck for her, but we also have a current case
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  Speaker 1: that's going on that's trending that makes us question this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing about the death penalty. Barbaric, you say? Firing squad?
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  Speaker 1: At least with the firing squad, you know the job
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  Speaker 1: is going to get done. And the bad guy is
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  Speaker 1: going to go away forever out of this realm. Well,
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  Speaker 1: in Tennessee, you've got the story of Krista Pike. Have
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  Speaker 1: you heard about her? She murdered a classmate and tortured her.
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  Speaker 1: And she's been on death row for a long time
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  Speaker 1: until this past week was her time to go away. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the lethal injection didn't work. Twice.
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  Speaker 3: Twice.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what went wrong there. Even Trump has
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  Speaker 1: talked about it. He's like, I don't know what the hell.
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  Speaker 1: They had the wrong medicine. I don't know what the
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  Speaker 1: hell happened. But she, twice. So now there's this big
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  Speaker 1: legal thing about whether or not they can try the
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  Speaker 1: lethal injection in Tennessee for Krista Pike again. And you've
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  Speaker 1: got people like this. This is her attorney saying, she
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  Speaker 1: should be able to walk. She's suffered enough.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: You know who suffered more than that? Was her victim.
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  Speaker 1: But here's her attorney saying what he has to say,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, what he's paid to say.
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  Speaker 3: The governor's call for an independent review does not go
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  Speaker 3: far enough. After having endured solitary confinement for more than
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  Speaker 3: 20 years and a full attempt to kill her by
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  Speaker 3: lethal injection, Krista has endured punishment greater than any other
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  Speaker 3: person in the history of the American death penalty.
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  Speaker 1: You know who suffered more? The classmate she hacked to
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  Speaker 1: death and tortured and killed. So, It's great news for
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  Speaker 1: us because you're going to hear this barbaric term about
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  Speaker 1: the firing squad, about the whole issue of a firing squad.
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  Speaker 1: All you got to do is point to that Tennessee case.
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  Speaker 1: You say this.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Did you hear about Krista Pike? They gave her lethal
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  Speaker 1: injection twice and it still didn't work. I think the
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  Speaker 1: firing squad is actually too merciful for the Fort Hood terrorist.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your response to that one. But look to see.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating. It's an amazing debate. And
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  Speaker 1: he will be. Be killed by firing squad is just
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  Speaker 1: a matter of how we do it. Finally, after long,
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  Speaker 1: long debate and last, 2009 this happened. That's how long
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  Speaker 1: those families have waited for and those survivors have waited
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  Speaker 1: for justice. But justice is finally here. And going back
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  Speaker 1: to Pete Hazlitt, by the way, who I read you
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  Speaker 1: that quote from over a year ago now where he
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  Speaker 1: dedicated a lot of time to making sure that the
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  Speaker 1: Fort Hood terrorist would be put to death. He commented
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  Speaker 1: on it this morning when it finally got signed and
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  Speaker 1: approved by President Trump and he had one word. which
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  Speaker 1: is what a lot of people are saying these days. Justice.
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  Speaker 1: That's justice. Don't cry for me. Don't cry for me
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  Speaker 1: at all. And believe it or not, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: about Army bases now, or there are military installations, but
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  Speaker 1: there are still gun-free zones throughout the country. And believe
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  Speaker 1: you me, the bad guys know exactly where they are.
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  Speaker 1: It's a tale as old as time. But look to
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  Speaker 1: see what the reaction is. Look to see and remember
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  Speaker 1: that one thing. Oh, firing squad, that's just barbaric.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like that Tennessee lady they couldn't kill? That's your response.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to be amazing. Here's the other thing
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  Speaker 1: to look out for. Once they pull this off, and
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  Speaker 1: once they actually execute this guy, and there's a place
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  Speaker 1: and a time to be determined later, look to see
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  Speaker 1: how this trickles down to states and counties now for
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  Speaker 1: firing squad as the death penalty. Look to see if
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  Speaker 1: this actually, mostly probably in the red states, but look
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  Speaker 1: to see how this kind of proliferates after this entire
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  Speaker 1: thing because there's a massive legal precedent set for it now.
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  Speaker 1: But televised? Should we put it on TV? Would that
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  Speaker 1: be a real deterrent? I don't think it'll ever happen.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's a fair question worth asking. I
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  Speaker 1: really do. All right, thanks for finding me.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Firing squad topic on a Tuesday. Didn't see that coming.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a big one, though. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: this news story today. It's only going to grow. Make
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  Speaker 1: it a wicked awesome Tuesday. I'll talk to you tomorrow.