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Best of Full Interview - Lil Jon Opens Up About Mental & Physical Transformation, Origins Of Crunk, Meditation Album + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day.
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  Speaker 2: Up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Finish for y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Done morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is the j n V.
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  Speaker 4: Just hilarious. Charlamagne, he gud we are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 4: Law La Rosa is here as well, and we got
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  Speaker 4: a special guest in the.
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  Speaker 3: Building, a motherfucking icon.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was up here, this is his first time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what I seen you on the road,
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  Speaker 5: I know, but I thought you've been up here.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Hey man, hey, thank y'all for having me.
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  Speaker 6: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: It's about time.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody, we don't say good morning enough to our
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  Speaker 1: fellow brothers and sisters.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 5: I was a victim of that until I started to
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  Speaker 5: change my mindset. Sometimes I would come down, get in
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  Speaker 5: the car going, you know, on the road, I didn't
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  Speaker 5: say good morning.
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  Speaker 1: And once I started to change my mindset.
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  Speaker 5: I realized that's a good way to start your day
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  Speaker 5: in a gesture to someone whoever you're riding with, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the driver, whoever.
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  Speaker 3: That feeling, and then that's how they're feeling.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes that's also the case. Sometimes just say how
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  Speaker 5: is your day going?
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  Speaker 7: Yea?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I found myself sometimes I'm a I'm a
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  Speaker 5: I'm really in tune to my spiritual side.
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  Speaker 1: I've been for a long time.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes I might just be I remember being in the
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  Speaker 5: club and I might walk by a random person and
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  Speaker 5: I can feel that energy and I'd be like, let
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  Speaker 5: me just give you a hug, And sometimes that just
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  Speaker 5: changes somebody's life absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: What about that?
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  Speaker 6: What about when you were the person that might have
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  Speaker 6: been creating energy though, Like if you felt like some
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  Speaker 6: aggressive angriness for this person, but it was your fault
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  Speaker 6: because well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you.
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  Speaker 5: One time I was in South Carolina a and a
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  Speaker 5: Hole in the Wall club way back in the day,
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  Speaker 5: and it was supposed to be a night where cash
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  Speaker 5: money was supposed to be there, and they called me
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  Speaker 5: because cash money couldn't come. So these folks in South
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  Speaker 5: Carolina was mad than a motherfucker.
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  Speaker 1: It was not cash money.
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  Speaker 5: Little johnn Eastside boys show up and so I understand
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  Speaker 5: it's a hostile situation, but I said, I looked out
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  Speaker 5: on that crowd and I said, the biggest dude in
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  Speaker 5: this crowd, I'm about to make him my best friend.
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  Speaker 5: And I made him my best friend during the show,
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  Speaker 5: like playing to him, giving him drinks and hyping them up,
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  Speaker 5: and then he turned like it turned the whole crowd around,
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  Speaker 5: and then they were fans of us after that. But
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  Speaker 5: it was it was a way you can always change
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  Speaker 5: the energy of a situation if you approach with a
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  Speaker 5: calm manner. That's why good security don't go and try
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  Speaker 5: to fight somebody.
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  Speaker 1: They try to defuse the situation. That's the first rule
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  Speaker 1: is diffuse it not be the aggressior.
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  Speaker 2: Lot, John, I want to go back. So this is
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  Speaker 2: your first time.
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  Speaker 3: Real quick, what is a little John morning routine?
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  Speaker 5: Like I knew you were going to ask me that morning,
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  Speaker 5: So this morning I woke up, had a little water
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  Speaker 5: because you know, I do my I do this Korean
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  Speaker 5: facial stuff, so I do skin.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my skin is very important to my skin. Look, ladies,
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  Speaker 1: one rule for that.
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  Speaker 5: Is positivity, positive energy, positive thoughts, because if you're a
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  Speaker 5: negative person in all this negativity, it's gonna wear the flesh.
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  Speaker 5: So get up in the morning and do my skincare routine,
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  Speaker 5: burust my teeth, all that good stuff. And then since
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  Speaker 5: I'm on the road, a nice healthy breakfast for me
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  Speaker 5: was two hard boiled eggs, some yogurt, some berries, and
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  Speaker 5: the grapefruit. Wow, that's simple, easy and start with a
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  Speaker 5: positive mindset. It's gonna be a great day. I'm always
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  Speaker 5: in my mind saying affirmations for the day, even before
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  Speaker 5: I go to bed, in my dreams, Like last night,
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  Speaker 5: I was like, it's gonna be a great interview. This
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  Speaker 5: is I look at this as one of the biggest
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  Speaker 5: interviews I've ever done in my life because it's like,
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  Speaker 5: it's a fifty minutes, forty five minutes, fifty minutes a
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  Speaker 5: long interview.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot to talk about. Charlote man. You you
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  Speaker 1: see me grow from. I think we one time.
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  Speaker 5: We taught you were like you came to the radio
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  Speaker 5: station and in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: What time that was early on? He wasn't even on
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  Speaker 1: air yet, right were.
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  Speaker 6: I think it was a phone er you called in.
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  Speaker 6: You had just put out I think you had just
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  Speaker 6: put out be a beer.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So that's twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So we were talking about you having the Confederate flag
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  Speaker 6: in the in the video and I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Care about that. So that's what you know.
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  Speaker 5: You've seen the growth, and it's I think it's important
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  Speaker 5: because yeah, you've seen the growth. You've seen it from
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  Speaker 5: a different angle. You've seen it from a different angle.
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  Speaker 5: You've seen it from a different angle, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: you guys moved the needle of culture and you had
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  Speaker 5: everybody and their grandmama on this show. So I think
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  Speaker 5: it's one of the most important and you know, best
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  Speaker 5: interviews I think I'm going to have because because of
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  Speaker 5: all of that.
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  Speaker 3: Let's claim it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's claim it. I want to go back.
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  Speaker 4: I want to start from the beginning of these are
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  Speaker 4: the interviews I love because for some reason, I thought
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  Speaker 4: you've been up here before. So I want to start
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  Speaker 4: when you first got into the music industry, right, let's
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  Speaker 4: start with you started working with your main Dupris yep,
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  Speaker 4: ninety three.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start from there.
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  Speaker 4: So how did you hook up a Jamaine dupri and
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  Speaker 4: what did you do for Jamaine Duprix.
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  Speaker 5: So I used to be in Atlanta in the nineties.
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  Speaker 5: I was like the hottest DJ in the city.
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  Speaker 1: I was the demand.
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  Speaker 5: I did all the parties and I would see Jermaine
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  Speaker 5: all the time at the clubs. And then I did
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  Speaker 5: this one club called the Phoenix night Club, which was
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  Speaker 5: the hottest nightclub in Atlanta at the time.
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  Speaker 1: We brought Biggie, We brought Biggie.
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  Speaker 5: I got Biggie and Craig Mac together when they did
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  Speaker 5: the Big Mac Tour, so I got them. That's an
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  Speaker 5: interesting story because we got we we.
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  Speaker 1: I worked on the radio station, but I wasn't the PD.
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  Speaker 5: And you know how back then you had to go
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  Speaker 5: through the PD because you wanted to get the spins
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  Speaker 5: for your artists. So Diddy, you know, he let us
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  Speaker 5: get Biggie and Craig because he thought I was like
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  Speaker 5: the PD.
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  Speaker 1: And he get there and the club.
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  Speaker 5: Is slammed like a million people and he's like, Yo,
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  Speaker 5: what the heck, Yo, we need some more money because
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  Speaker 5: this thing is packed. And then he found out that
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't the PD, and so he was extra pist.
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  Speaker 5: And then he even tried to get the rep that
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  Speaker 5: worked for BMG at the time fired because she got
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  Speaker 5: because we got Craig and Biggie for free.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, that was normal back then when artists are
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  Speaker 6: on promo, tall.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, but you had you wanted to go through
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  Speaker 1: the station so you can make sure.
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  Speaker 5: You get to spend get your look. And we wasn't that,
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  Speaker 5: but we were high promoters. So I was doing all
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  Speaker 5: the hot parties and I would just see Jamaine all
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  Speaker 5: the time. But like, even if I wasn't DJing, I
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  Speaker 5: was everywhere, Like I had a thing where I was
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to be from.
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  Speaker 1: I called it from Bankhead to Buckhead. That was from the.
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  Speaker 5: Boogie spots to the the most hood you can get
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  Speaker 5: in Atlanta. So I was literally everywhere. And Jermaine came
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  Speaker 5: to me. Well, for one thing, people don't really know,
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  Speaker 5: Dallas Austin's brother came to me.
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  Speaker 1: First, so his name was Claude Austin. He passed away, but.
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  Speaker 5: Claude Austin came to me first and wanted me to
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  Speaker 5: work for Rowley. But then Jamaine came to me around
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  Speaker 5: the same time, and Claude ended up passing and so
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  Speaker 5: and Jamaine came because I was just everywhere, and he
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  Speaker 5: was like, I need you, someone like you to represent,
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  Speaker 5: you know, my label, because you everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: So he hired me.
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  Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety three, I started working at Social Death
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  Speaker 5: and I was hired to do A and R and
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  Speaker 5: street promotions because I was everywhere, right, so he wanted
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  Speaker 5: he wanted someone that had respecting the city, that could
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  Speaker 5: go anywhere, and someone like me that I was always out,
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  Speaker 5: so that was represent Social Death from Bankhead, Like I
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  Speaker 5: said to Buckhead, and.
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  Speaker 2: What artist did you have being a and off for
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  Speaker 2: Social Death at that time.
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  Speaker 5: I had I put together all of the Social Death
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  Speaker 5: based all stars and at night I think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And that changed.
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  Speaker 5: That changed music too, like it gave us a whole
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  Speaker 5: genre that had never been created, like had never been
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  Speaker 5: done before. And that all started because in Atlanta we
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  Speaker 5: used to do like it was DJ Jelly, shout Out,
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  Speaker 5: DJ Jelly shout Out, the J Team, DJ Smurf and
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  Speaker 5: all of those guys.
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  Speaker 1: They would take.
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  Speaker 5: Like slow jam acapellas, like say, one famous mix was, uh,
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  Speaker 5: can you Stand the Rain? New Edition and put it
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  Speaker 5: over a base beat. So they used to do all
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  Speaker 5: of these mixes like that. They would just do a
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  Speaker 5: whole mixtape. It'll be all bass beats and then these
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  Speaker 5: R and B A cappellas, and so I was like,
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  Speaker 5: we love this so much in the city, let's take
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  Speaker 5: that and make a record from that.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody made an actual song.
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  Speaker 5: So I came up with that concept and I went
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  Speaker 5: to my boy DJ Cool Collie aka Rodney, and then
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  Speaker 5: at the same time I met carlmo Uh. He used
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  Speaker 5: to call the phone that Social Death and play his
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  Speaker 5: tracks on the phone. Interesting story about that. So one
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  Speaker 5: day I'm like, these tracks are dope. So I called
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  Speaker 5: him to the to the office and he comes up
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  Speaker 5: there with a freaking keyboard and plays the keyboard like
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  Speaker 5: just playing the keyboard, not like no CDs, no cassette tape,
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  Speaker 5: just playing the keyboard. And I'm like, this is crazy.
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  Speaker 5: So I ended up using him and we did my
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  Speaker 5: Boo and so yeah, I did all of the Soco
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  Speaker 5: Death Base All Stars, and then out of that we
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  Speaker 5: had play a Pancho. He got signed and we did
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  Speaker 5: a couple of records with Player Pancho. And Player Pancho
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  Speaker 5: is actually how I met the East Side Boys, Wow,
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  Speaker 5: Because Player Pancho would always when he would go out,
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  Speaker 5: he would have a whole like twenty ten twenty guys
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  Speaker 5: with him, and the East Side Boys was always with him,
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  Speaker 5: even if it was just like two or three guys.
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  Speaker 5: And so I was always with Pancho because he was
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  Speaker 5: my artist, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And so me and the East Side Boys just one
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  Speaker 1: day we were.
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  Speaker 5: In the club and I think we were in the
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  Speaker 5: club five five nine, and we just start chatting this.
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  Speaker 1: Chant who who you with? Get with? And then everybody in.
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  Speaker 5: The club start chatting it and then I look at
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  Speaker 5: Big Sam. I'm like, we need to turn this into
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  Speaker 5: a song. And so I know I have access to
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  Speaker 5: people with labels and stuff, so I called somebody I knew.
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  Speaker 5: Actually I called kol Ace. Uh, this guy named kol
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  Speaker 5: Ace and kol A's connected me with this guy named
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  Speaker 5: Carlos Glover and we ended up going in the studio
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  Speaker 5: and we made the song who You With? And that
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  Speaker 5: started everything for a little John as an artist.
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  Speaker 4: When did you start producing? When did did the production
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  Speaker 4: bug coming?
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  Speaker 1: Uh? Probably like ninety two.
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  Speaker 4: And you never you never made beats at that time.
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  Speaker 4: You just bought a machine and said I'm on.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 5: It started off where me and my partner I used
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  Speaker 5: to do a show in Atlanta called Reggae Jammin on
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  Speaker 5: the like main station in Atlanta, B one O three and.
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  Speaker 1: Me and Paul I was.
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  Speaker 5: In the sound system with Paul Lewis called four Seasons.
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  Speaker 5: So I was like a selector like Jamaican sound did.
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  Speaker 4: Jamaican music did every time of genre of music.
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  Speaker 5: We had a we had a dance hall, We had
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  Speaker 5: a reggae show on Friday nights on the station and
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  Speaker 5: and what we would do is I would take hip
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  Speaker 5: hop a cappellas and put them over dance all beats
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  Speaker 5: and dance all a cappellas, put them over hip hop beats.
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  Speaker 5: Through that, we got linked up with Signette Records, and
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  Speaker 5: we got we convinced them to give us the Cableton
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  Speaker 5: Tour a cappella. That's how I got to do the
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  Speaker 5: Cableton Tour remix. When I did Verses, I remember playing
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  Speaker 5: it and people were like, you ain't do that, like
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  Speaker 5: and I remember, like in real time, DJ Scratch pulled
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  Speaker 5: the vinyl out and he put in the chat like
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking at the credits.
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  Speaker 1: He actually did produce it.
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  Speaker 5: So what we did at that time we would kind
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  Speaker 5: of tell somebody how we wanted to produce the records,
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  Speaker 5: and later on we bought a drum machine. I learned
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  Speaker 5: how to produce by the time we got to Who
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  Speaker 5: You Wit, which was ninety five ninety six, But before
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  Speaker 5: that we kind of just told somebody like, yo, chop this,
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  Speaker 5: chop that, do this da da.
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  Speaker 3: Da da da yo, do you have product your credits
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  Speaker 3: on my boot as well?
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  Speaker 1: I did not.
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  Speaker 5: I should have gotten some because I really co produced
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  Speaker 5: the song with them, but I thought it's part of
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  Speaker 5: my job description as an artist, the first project I'm
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: doing that, that was just part of the job. But
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  Speaker 5: I was really there every step of the way of
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  Speaker 5: inception and putting that song together.
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  Speaker 6: I'm glad you mentioned Sam and Bolto because people always
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  Speaker 6: seem to forget about.
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  Speaker 3: The East Side Boys. What did they bring to the table?
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  Speaker 6: What made Little John and the East Side Boys such
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  Speaker 6: an amazing group?
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  Speaker 5: We were just like because we were we were the
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  Speaker 5: sound of the rowdy guys in the back of the club.
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  Speaker 1: That's where we were.
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  Speaker 5: We were them niggas that were turned up in the
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  Speaker 5: back that you just be looking back like make sure
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  Speaker 5: they ain't coming over.
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  Speaker 1: Here with that. So we were that.
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  Speaker 5: And what people don't understand about krunk music, I've known
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  Speaker 5: some people are like, why was it? Why did it
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  Speaker 5: do what it do? Why did it spread? Why did
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  Speaker 5: it become big? Because it was an outlet of energy.
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  Speaker 1: For black youth.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, when you went to the club, you had a
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  Speaker 5: hard ass week, you had a hard life, whatever the
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  Speaker 5: fuck was going on in your life. You hear that
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  Speaker 5: fucking crunk music and you get in that damn and
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  Speaker 5: you let all of.
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  Speaker 1: That out and you feel amazing, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: So that's why krunk music was able to reach so
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  Speaker 5: many people.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I still like going.
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  Speaker 5: Like I see you talking of all the time about
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  Speaker 5: knuck as you Buckets the Negro, and it is like
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  Speaker 5: it touches your soul in a certain way.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we do and and.
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  Speaker 5: Like krunk music tap into music to their ancestors because
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  Speaker 5: they were channing and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: What did you do when you were a band from clubs?
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  Speaker 4: I remember in college there was some clubs that like,
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  Speaker 4: you cannot play none of that in this club, put your.
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  Speaker 1: Hood up and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: We just kept going because when you when you tell
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  Speaker 5: somebody can't have it, they wanted more, you know. But
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  Speaker 5: it was crazy that the music got people so rowdy
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  Speaker 5: that they were like losing.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen people.
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  Speaker 5: I was in Louisiana one time we did a show
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  Speaker 5: and it got so turned up they start fighting the
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  Speaker 5: police in the club.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy.
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  Speaker 5: I want to just talk about one thing real quick
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  Speaker 5: that it's been going viral. It's the video of the
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  Speaker 5: two dollars bill concert that we did in Atlanta. It's
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  Speaker 5: a viral video of be performing Get Crunk and that
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  Speaker 5: whole concert, and you can see the energy on each
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  Speaker 5: and if y'all look at the video, each and everybody
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  Speaker 5: in there's face is turned up. It ain't nobody, not
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  Speaker 5: one fucking cell phone in the air. Everybody's enjoying the moment.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody is energized. And even you can see that the
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: ground was shaking because the camera when it's steady, it
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  Speaker 5: is like moving.
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  Speaker 1: That's how much.
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  Speaker 5: Energy was in that place. And I think it's just
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  Speaker 5: a testament to like we just brought something different, you know,
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  Speaker 5: And like the kids now think they are turning up,
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  Speaker 5: but they have no idea what a real turned up
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  Speaker 5: time was from the two thousand.
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  Speaker 6: And Get Crunked with such a great record, because I
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  Speaker 6: didn't think you could get crunker than Kings of the Crunk,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Think you could get crunkd in that.
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  Speaker 6: But as soon as you hear who in my Bohagen
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: being me motherfucker, you like.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: God killed that salute Bohagen out there?
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: How did you how did you even have the mindset
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: to take that to another level?
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: How did you take that energy to another level?
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: That beat was produced by Little J who produced kno
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: if you buck. So it was time to you know,
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: come and work on the album, and you know, everybody
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: down with be and me. Of course people that don't
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: know Crime Mob. Part of that was through being me,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: so we are part of putting them out there. So
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: of course I called all of the squad, you know,
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: Trillville helped me write some of the songs.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: And yeah, Little Jay sent me.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: I think he sent me some beats and that was
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: one of the beats and I was like, this is insane.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the crukest beats ever too.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: I think my favorite beats that I've produced, our co
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: produced are been on this get crunk and what You're
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: Gonna Do and what You're Gonna Do is unique.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I was in New York when I did that beat.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: I remember I was on TVT and Steve got leeb
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: and shout out to Brian Leach, my boy, Brian Leach,
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: she was the ant ar at the time. He was
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: like Brian Leach. Brian Leash was like, Yo, you gotta
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: go in and knock out this song for this. I
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: think it was like a Christmas album or some Christmas
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: crunk album that Steve Gottlie wanted to put out and
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: I'm like, he can't put no fucking album out called
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: Crump without me.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, fuck this guy.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: And so I was in the New I was in
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: New York and Brian was like, you gotta go in
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: and record this song. So I was angry when I
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: made that beat. I'm never mad when I make tracks,
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: but that's one of the only beats I've ever made
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: when I was angry, And that's why it sounds so aggressive,
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: because I was mad that I had to go in
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: the studio and record this. I wanted to just go
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: out like I was like, I'm going on to the club.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: He was like, no, you gotta go and do this song.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: And so that's my anger coming out through the drummers.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Do you have a trademark the word crunk?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. Probably did all my ad libs.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I know that because you're the face of crunk.
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: But to me, I would have to give I would
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: say three six Mafia probably the.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: So that's another argument going around. It's an argument that
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: says Memphis started crunk. Here's here's my Here's what I
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: will say. We in Atlanta. You couldn't be Atlanta in
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: the nineties and not be listening to eight ball MJG.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: You couldn't be riding around not listening to master P.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Master P. Master P changed the landscape of the South,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the South period.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: He was the first one that really got us rally.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: I would say it was master P, but we was
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: listening to Balling G. And of course three six Mafia
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: came around that.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Do you think he got us rody before three to six?
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I think about it, about.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: It, about it, yeah, but had a club.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Club was ninety seven? What yet about about it come out?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I was in college.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: I think it was like ninety five. I remember what
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: happened was in the club in Atlanta. It was playing
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: bass music. And then when master P came that was.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Over about about that was ninety five, definitely. That was
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: a freshman of college.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: That was the record.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: Motherfuckers in the hood was getting no limit tattoos.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: That's what changes for us. So I will say Memphis
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: is part of the influence, but our sound is different.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: Memphis was getting Bucks.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: It was ninety seven. That's even late though.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: When we got when we got Terry Club was when
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: they redid it. That was ninety seven, because I remember
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: it says on the Vinyl Terror Club up ninety seven. So,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: but it started for us with Master p Master. That
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: about it about it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Shit just changed it.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: But we are influenced. But it's all different sounds, but
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: it all intertwined and works together.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: So what would you call what three six was doing?
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: They called it in Memphis Memphis buck, but three six
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: was doing it even we wouldn't even buck music. I
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: think it was just three six created The three six
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: created their own lane of Memphis music, and then they
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: changed the landscape of what Memphis music is.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: So salute Paul Juicy and the whole squad. That's family too.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: You know what I want?
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: You know what the word ask too when you made
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: when you were making these tracks, did you try to
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: make it your business not to sound the same, because
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: you know, when you look at your desiography to see
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: some of the records that you did, like, I'm so
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: amazed because they don't sound the same.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Right, you can go to the window.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: To the wall, you could blow your whistle over here
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: and then you can like the ship is amazing.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well it depends, well a lot of it. So
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: so let's talk Get Low. Interesting story of Get Low,
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Get load became because I was trying to make Party Up.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: I was inspired by part I love DMX's Party Up
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: so much.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, I want to make something like that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Let me go in the studio. This was like ninety nine,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and so I go in and.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: I come out with Get Low. If you listen to it,
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: it's got the whistle like Party Up. It's some similarities.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: I'm inspired by it. But I sat on the beat.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: I couldn't really come up with nothing. And then I
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: had a session with Yin Yang and I pulled that
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: beat out and we may get Low. So it comes
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: out like that just came like I said, because I
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: was trying to do something different, but it turned from
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: like a rowdy party up type song to a tork song.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: But then like say tell me when to go E forty.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: We were in the studio together, and that's the energy
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: of what he's giving me and his squad is giving me, and.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It comes out into the drummer shoit.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: So every time I make the best stuff when I'm
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: in the studio, young bloods.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: We were in the studio together and it took two
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: days for us to get that song done. Like I
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: did the beat the first day. We had the verses
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: the first day, but we did not have the hook.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: And then the second day we just threw a party
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: in the studio and then Bohagen again, shout out Bohagen.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: He was like everybody was throwing hooks out and then
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: he was just kind of mumbling something. I was like,
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: what you got, because I'm shooting everybody shit down like
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: that shits trash and then he's.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Just mumbling son. I was like, what's that?
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: That?
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: That's it, that's it, go lay that and then I
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: got the second part, you know, And sometimes that's how
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: some of the records happened to, like you just stumble
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: onto it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Whistle blow the whistle. I did that beat that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: I did that beat the same week that I did
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: tell me when to go Damn.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: So I was working on E forty's album and I
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: think we had done muscle Cars that day. So too Short,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Too Short had came to the studio a couple of
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: days after that. So before, like earlier in the week,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: I was making beats and I was going through sounds
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: and I found that sound and I was like, ooh,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: this sounded.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Like rikytails baseline, Like this is a base like that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: I was like, let me make some with that. And
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know what made me instead of making it slow,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: make it fast. Because I like to do stuff different.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: I don't like to be expected. So I was like,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: let me make it one hundred whatever bpms and so
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: I put it to the side, and when too Short
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: came to the studio a couple of days later, I
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: was like, here you go.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: You know I got something for you.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: But first forty turned it down to forty Forty had
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: to remind me of this the other day. He was like,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: you know, you gave me that beat first, and I
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: was like, this sounded like Todd, so give it to Todd.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: So that's what happened.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Basically, he should get corproduction credits.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: He didn't want it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: What moment made you realize Crump had officially crossed from
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: suvering energy to a global.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Move coming up doing MTV.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: They let me get in Times Square on a double
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: deckord bus with a little scrappy on tr real doing
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: what you gonna do?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Bruh MTV.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say MTV too, because I remember watching
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: the Video Music Awards.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I forgot what year it was.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: They played get Low Going in the commercial break and
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: the audience went crazy, and Justin Timberlake was Wilent. I
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: just remember thinking to myself, Oh, get Lowers out of here.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then we end up performing get Low at
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: the MTV Video Music Awards.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Get Low, Yeah, Lean Back.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: And what else we did that year, I can't remember,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: but that was that was a big time and Dave
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Chappelle was the host, So that was pretty insane.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: That was a pretty insane year for me.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: And when when you touched when you started doing R
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: and B, did you think you could do R and B?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Or was one of the things.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: How did you get introduced to say, let me try
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: to make R and B records for doing all?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: It was already doing them with the social also.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Well that was different. So here's what happened.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: So Sean Garrett shout out Sean Garrett, incredible songwriter. He
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: reached out to h I guess he was trying to
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: get in touch with me and he couldn't get in
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: touch with me, so he knew somebody that worked with me.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Her name was Delicia.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Delicia had all my beats, so she gave him a
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: beat CD and that's how he got the beat.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Basically, the freak Elite beat, which turned into yeah. So
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: she gave him the beat.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: So thank you Delicia forgiving Sean those beats, and Sean
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: wrote yeah to.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: That freakaak beat.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: So crazy thing about that is that beat was for mystical.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Freakalyague's beat was for mystical.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: So I did though.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I used to like have labels booked me in Circle
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: House shout out be Bat Circle House in Miami, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: I like take a week and I just go and
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: do as mini beats as possible, and the label could
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: take all the beats put them on whatever artists they want.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: So these particular sessions was for mystical. That beat was
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: in there. He passed on it, and so I think
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: CEO shout out Coo. He got the beat and he
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: wrote Freakalyak my I don't even know this, but he
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: wrote that and submitted it to the label Pete Pablo.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: He ended up recording. But I don't even know this.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: So Sean Garrett has the beat. He writes, yeah, usher
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: don't want to record no more songs.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: He done with the damn Alutum. He's like, I'm good,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I got burned, I got all these other songs. I'm good,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: We're good.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: La reads like, no, go record the damn song. So
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: he goes to record the song and.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: We come out with it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: I remember going into doing the sessions too, like we
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I think we recording La and we were like, this
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: is a smash, right, And so the song is in
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: the can and then I remember it was around Christmas time,
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: the album's done. La Reid is in Miami and he
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: calls JD going insane, and JD called me on three
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Way and La Reid is like, why am I hearing
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: this Usher record on the radio? And basically it was
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: the freakingly instrumental plan as a bed. They had released
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: the song as a single, Freaka Leak, and we didn't
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: even know.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know they had used to beat.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: So La Red is going crazy and then we're like,
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: all right, we're just gonna go in and do a
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: new beat. Thank god we did, because yeah over Freaka
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Leak is not as good as yeah as Yeah. Now
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: that's how God worked. And crazy story is when I
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: went into the studio to like redo the beat, I'm like,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: how that.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Pete Poplo record ain't gonna be that big? Just take
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: all the keys off. Let's just play a new stem.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Because it's Usher, you know what I mean, And I don't,
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: you know, I just didn't think it was gonna be
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: that big. It could have been a cool record, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: I didn't think it was gonna be a number one
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: song like it was. So that's why the beats sound similar,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: is because I just used the same exact drums, but
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I played a different synth line. So well, it got
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: my boy a rock. My boy Rock played the scynth line.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: So we just played a new synth line and here
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: we are with two monsters.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: It probably helped frequently though, because yeah, make.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Them together lovers and friends, so that I was going
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: to get to that.
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: That origin story tell them.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: So when we when I can't.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: We were working on my album Crunk Juice, right, So uh,
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: instead of going with another up tempo, I like to
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: be different. I could have certainly went to Usher, John
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: and Luda with another fast song. I said, let's do
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: something different. And at at in Atlanta, we go to
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Strip club for everything, so we always in you know.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: I was in the Strip club one day and the
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: DJ played the Michael Sterling Lovers.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: And Friends, and I was like, huh, that could be
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: pretty cool for Usher to do.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: So let's let's back up. So this is before Usher's
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: album is done. I give Usher the Michael Starr on
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: the City, like check this out. We should do this
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: over this nigga don't listen to it. He don't listen
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: to it, so we on my album. So I'm like,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take that Lovers and Friends I did and
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: do it from my album. So I do the beat
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: over and I let Usher know, yo, I got this
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: joint for us, like come you know, let's do it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: So he flies in, he records it, and he's out
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: and after he does his part, so I'm just like, wow,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: this is a smash.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: So I called Lula.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, we got another one, like I need
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: you on his ASAP saying it Luda. He did his
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: parts and then I go in last because I'm not
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: the rapper, and so I was like, I need to
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: take my time to make sure.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: My verse is as catchy as possible because.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: I can't compete against Luda Chris and then it's Ussher
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: like come on. So I was like, let me take
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: something from this record. We had a record called It's
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: a record we did with Ubi.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I forgot the name of it, nothing.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Free, nothing Free. You forget that that's a classic, Nothing's Free.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: So we did nothing Free like in the nineties, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: so I was like, that shady part was really catchy
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: on that song, but it was regional. Nobody really heard
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: it out of the South. So it's like, let me
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: take that same little thing and put that in Lovers
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: and Friends, and that will be the little catch for
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: my verse to make it catchier and a little Did
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I know that I was gonna be like people's favorite
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: verses because it's so simple. It's so simple and it's catchy,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: and yeah, that's one of That song went number one without
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: a video because it was the labels and Superstartists and
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: superstar ad and Da Da Da Da Da. But number
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: one song rap song of the year without a video
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: in the two thousands is impossible.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: You got three of and you made me think of
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: it when you said nothing is for You got three
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: artists that I feel like should have been way Yeah,
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: China White, Yeah, Ubie and Bull Hagen.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah what you what do you think? Why did I
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: didn't connect?
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: We worked hard, like Ubi was with me for a
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: long time. We did a lot of records, but we
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: just never got the right one. Just how it just
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: happens like that sometimes with artists. Uh, China went to
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: jail right when we shot the video for Bea Bea
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: and me and my boy Rob Mac left the video
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: at the end of the video shoot. We drove her
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: to prison after the video shoot, all the way in Louisiana.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: So she did. I don't remember how much time it was.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: It was at least five years.
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: That sounds she went to fan time for gun Running
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: Damn yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: So she she didn't even get to perform the song
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: at its peak at all, so that that messed her
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: window up. And then bo Haggen the same thing. We
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: were just trying to get the records. We just never
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: got the records.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: We said, I set them up nicely and get crunk
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: and you know he did the hook on Dan, but
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: we just never was able to translate. Those are things
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: that you know, hurt me to this day because those
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: were people that are down with me for a long
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: time and I was pushing, pushing, pushing and working they
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: make the record, but sometimes they just it just don't
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: come out.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: You know, I was gonna say with the Lovers and
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: Friends video when I when I watched you tell the
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: story you talked about I know you mentioned labels loosely,
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: but you said that the labels didn't look at you
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: as a comparable artist too. Yeah, which when I heard, like,
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: I just I mean, I don't know, it made me
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: upset when I heard, Well.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: You gotta think Ludacris is a rapper death Jam in
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: the two thousands, Usher is fucking Usher at Monster, biggest
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: guy in R and B.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm this guy doing crump music. You got it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: It's not the time, it's not the same times.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Now as I'm I'm known, I'm established, I've proven myself
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: over and over again. But early in those in those days,
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: it hadn't happened yet.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: So yeah, they.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: Feel like you helped the find that whole sound of
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: the early dude.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: But they didn't. I don't feel like, you know, death Jam,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Oh sure, I don't think nobody got it back then. No, Yeah,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Lotu John was it was.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: He wasn't looked at as an artist per se like
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Luda or exactly Usher. He was a host, djuction. Yeah
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: that's what it was.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Hype man, producer. Yeah, you know, that's the.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Clubs without you know what was the clubs without crunk music?
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Little John back then like no.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: A lot less energy.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Was it ever a low period for Little John?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I got burnt out probably after after the forties album,
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: and I think I tried, we tried to do a
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: second trivial and scrappy album, and I.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Just was fried from all.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: You know, you got to think about I was going
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: since the nineties ninety three, you know, producing to was
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: that two thousand and eight or nine two thousand and eight,
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: and I'm I'm just depleted. I have no creative juices left.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: I go in the studio, I'm trying to produce and
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: trying to make stuff. I think, yet nothing's coming out.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: I think that's also what happened with two of those
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: artists too, because I might have gotten to the point
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: where I was just had nothing left.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't create it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: And then so what I started to do was just
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: go back to the foundation DJJ, go back to the clubs.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: And what happened was Reggie Bush invited me out to
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: the first game in the super Dome after Katrina. So
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: I went there and that night he had an after party,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: went to the after party and it was a DJ
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: DJ and I was just like, this dude is freaking dope.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: So I met the dude and he was cool and
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: so the next day his.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Name is DJ Spider.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: So the next day we were I was in the
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: airport and this nerdy white dude come up to me like, hey,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: remember me? Like who he was like, oh, Spider, I
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: was DJing last night. I was like, oh shit, So
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: what happened was he really inspired me to get back
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: into DJing by the way he was mixing. So me
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: and Spider linked up. He like got me on Serado,
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: he started like giving, gave me, helped me get my
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: music library up, and we started DJing together. So I
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: started to kind of get back into DJing, and so
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: d Jing brought my producer creative energy back.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Is that when the records like Shot Shot Shots and
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: all that stuff.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: That came just by me being out and meeting people
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: and and you know learning this you know Open Format
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: World and EDM World and and yeah, I ended up
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: meeting lmfao. I was kind of following their story and
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: uh a mutual friend of ours named Eric Deluxe who
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: kind of he wrote shots too. U He reached out
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: to me and sent me to record. I was like,
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: this record is a smash. But around that time, I
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: think I first met them when we did a pit
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Bull video.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: We were on like I think it was crazy. I
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: think they were in that video.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: So I was kind of working with Pittbull because we
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: did the anthem we did Crazy. Then Yeah shots came
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: so I was still I started to move into another
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: world because I saw that EDM world. I kind of
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: jumped in right at just starting to get crazy, and
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: I ended up getting a DJ residency in eight in Vegas.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: So I've been in Vegas doing a DJ residency since
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: eight and I'm still there now. So that was a
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: place where I could really, you know, learn a different style,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: just open format world and just get my energy back
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: from just being in the midst of the people and
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: understanding what makes people move and groove again. Because DJing
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: is the foundation of my production. Like I think I
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: started playing the drums when I was in elementary school,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: So drums and DJing are the two key elements to
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: my production style.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: That's why it's.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: More beat driven and that's why they're all club records.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: A DJ side when you choose the pivot, because you
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: know you've pivoted a lot. When you choose the pivot,
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: is it because of where music is going or where
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: you're going as a person.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Where my spirit leaves me my spirit? You know, when
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: I started to get back into djaying, God put these
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: people in my path to say, okay, you should now
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: start moving over here. And I remember like telling my
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: manager and my lawyer, I want to go over here
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: and do this DJ stuff. They like, Bro, you're making
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: one hundred grand or beat? What the hell is wrong
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: with you? I was like, I can't do.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: It no more.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: But I saw the future and I just trust. I
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: always trust my spirit. Ladies and gentlemen, don't listen to
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: your mind, listen to your spirit. And you got to
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: learn the difference between the two. And when you learn
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: the difference, your spirit is never gonna lead you wrong.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Real trust it and it's gonna be fine. And that's
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: what I've been doing, you know, pretty much my whole life,
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: and everything's been okay, you know what I mean. Like
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: I've been able to now have number one medium song,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: hip hop song, R and B song, AC song. How
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: many people you know had a hit song in every
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: in four decades, because you know, we had a hit
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: with even the usher Glue song. I think it was
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: an AC hit number one, I take it. And then
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: I had a song with Pitt Bull that came out
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: two years ago called Jumping that was like number one
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: on some chart. So yeah, since the nineties, I've been
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: doing this and I'm just thankful every day to wake
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: up and to still be able to do this, and
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: to also like, right now is the time where the
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: two thousands is on fire? Yeah, like, yes, it's on
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: Like I'm doing so many shows that and and for
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: crowds that I haven't seen and you know, or maybe
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: not have done it as a headline. I have never
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: headlined for ten thousand people until like the last couple
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: of years Tackles.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: So it's like, it's amazing that people the memories that
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: people have from that era, the fun time they had,
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: it's making this music you know now come back and
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: it's in a major.
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: Way made you what made you do the meditation. So
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: that's totally far the other end of the spectrum.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, turning fifty, turn fifty, a lot of things started
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: to happen in my life. First thing I it hit
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: me was like I asked myself, what makes you happy?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: And I said, damn, only.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Making sure everybody else good, but that's not what makes me.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: Like what makes me happy? I couldn't really tell myself,
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: and so I was like, you know what, I need
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: to kind of put myself first.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not happy in this marriage. Like, so I said,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I want to do divorce.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: And so around the same time, me and my my
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: good friend Doug Davis we talk like every year because
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: he calls and gives me shit because he's he's like
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: a couple months younger than me, so he's like, oh,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: you're old man.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: So we're talking.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: And he was telling me he wanted to introduce me
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: to somebody that was in this space and I was like, oh,
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: that's interesting because I've been listening to like all of this,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: like b neural beats to sleep and relax and ocean
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: and rain and all of this type of stuff. So
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: me and this guy kuld Bear, his name is caber Sego,
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: we connected. And so I'm going through the divorce and
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: like I didn't like where my mental state was at
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: because I'm angry, like, ah, why can't she just do
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: this and that? And so I'm like mad, and I
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: don't like, That's not me. I'm a positive at all
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: times person. I don't think negatively. So I'm like, I
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: started to like medit day. I started to say affirmations
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: every day, and it helped me to be in a
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: better mental state, as well as having good people in
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: my corner, like my queen.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Her name is Jamila.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: She was there for me at that time, and she
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: would give me like also like just positive. She would
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: just keep me, try to keep me in a positive mindset.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: And she had been through a rough divorce too, so
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: she can give me some insight and just you know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: help me keep my head up. So the affirmations every day,
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: I would literally get a cup of tea and I
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: had a copper pyramid on my deck. I'll drink, get
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: my tea, go sit in this copper pyramid and meditate
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: and just say these affirmations. I'm happy, I'm healthy, I'm
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: at peace every single day and throughout the day. And
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: so all of this happened at the same time I
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: meet Caber and me and Caber are talking. He's like,
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: let's do we should do meditation. So I was like, yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: let's do that. I'm down with that. I think that's
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: great because I was saying these affirmations I meditated.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: So uh, we went in recorded a bunch of stuff.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it was because I needed it was time
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: for a change in my life. I needed to be
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: in more positive mindset. One thing that I also did
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: was I was like I would say, affirmations of negativity
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: can live inside of me.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I like, I don't. I try to get rid of
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: all negative thoughts.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: And when I did that, when I really got rid
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: of the negative thoughts, I ain't not even saying the
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: word hate.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't even use that word.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: So I'm always trying to change anything that happens to me.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: In any negative situation, it's some positivity you can pull
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: out of that you focus on that. So I would
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: always pull that positivity out. And I've learned if you
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: pull that out, pull pull a positivity out of any
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: negative situation, and you let God drive, don't try to
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: drive and trust God every it ain't gonna.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Always be all right.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: And so we went in we recorded these albums, and
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: you know, this time of my life is feeling like
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: I'm doing what God intended me to do. But what's
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: amazing is everything that got me here I was supposed
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: to do. And even like all of the music that
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: I've given people gave people positivity. So it's always been positivity,
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: but it's meaning more now when someone tells me I.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Never meditated, you helped me meditate.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: I was having trouble getting over this grief of losing someone.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Your meditation about grief helped me. I'm inspired to do.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: You know how many people have called me about getting
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: in the gym. It's insane, Like celebrities, all kind of
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: people are like, you inspired me to get healthy. So
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: I feel now like I'm doing what God intended me
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: It took me a long time to.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Get here, but this is the time it's supposed to
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: be and crazy. I was thinking about this the other day.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: I met mister Farrakhan at the Source Awards and he
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: basically told me, he said, you got power, you got
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: a voice, and he basically was kind of trying to
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: tell me, like use it and that like that stuck
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: with me, like I'm like, okay, but now I'm using
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: my voice and my power in a good way to
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: push positivity.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Into the world.
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: So that is what makes you happy.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: That's what that's what you know what Yeah, it makes
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: me happy that.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Just to be just to do good, you know, just
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: to do good, because all that comes back and when
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: you like, a guy came to me, I did the
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: col of guard thing, right, A guy came to me
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: in the club one night in the club and was like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: I did that col of guard test because of you,
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: and it came back positive, and he did he didn't
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: have colon cancer, but he had polyps. So just stuff
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: like that, it just makes me feel like I'm doing
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: good in the workpiring people and being a good role
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: model to my son.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I have a daughter now, you know, she's ten months old.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Congratulation.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: I look at life like with health like I got
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: to be here for her, you know what I'm saying.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I got to be here for her first day of school.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: I gotta be here for high school graduation, walk her
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: down the aisle. So health is even more important than me.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: It was something I was doing to just you know,
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: live a long, full life. But even more so now
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: I have even more motivation because of my daughter.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: And her mother. I got to be here for them,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: So it's crazy to see you cry because a lot
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: of people who never even thought you had ice.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: No, you know what, black man, we need to cry.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: So we need to cry.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: When you get more in tune to your higher self
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: and you stop vibrating at these low frequencies, you can
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: let yourself let the energy flow as we should. We
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: don't have to be tough all the time.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And you're an advocate for therapy.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: I push all brothers that we don't have to suffer
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: in silence.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: We suffer in freaking silence.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Call your homie sometime to just be like, my nigga,
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: you good? How you doing not just period, but how
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: you mentally doing? Bro, Because that one little conversation could
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: make him not go do some stupid shit or take
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: his life or whatever.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: You know. So I started doing therapy. I push anything,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: any knowledge that.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: I got, I try to share with everybody because we
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: got to help each other.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: We all we got what's the gym? What's the gymy?
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: This is a trying, This is positivity abundance and it's
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: also my daughter's birthstone.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you a question about about marriage.
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: Like you never hear men say they were tired of
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: the marriage, like they wanted to walk away.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: What happens is when you start to walk on those eggshells.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: It's just not it's just not a positive environment. And
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: then when you get to the point where a lot
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: of times in marriage, we're just there making sure everything's good,
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: and who the hell checking on us, who's making sure
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: we okay? Who's making who's coming to us and saying
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: what do you need today?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: What can I do for you to make you happy?
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: You know?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I know we're the providers and all of that.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: But we need that love too. We need that assurance.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Sometimes women go to your men and just make them
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: feel like, appreciate it because to live in today's society,
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: to go out and make that money and all of
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: the things a husband and a father has to worry
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: about every single day. Like I said, suffering in silence
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: that y'all have no clue about. Just be that positive light,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: make that house a home, make it radiate positivity.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: So yeah, man, y'all got me up here crime you
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: might have needed.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: To release you know. You know what I wanted to
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: know when when Dave Chappelle was doing the skits at first,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: did you take it as disrespectful? Did you always was like,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: oh this is great?
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: No, A cipher sounds called me and he was like
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: when he did the first one, and he was like, Yo,
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: Dave Chappelle did this skit on you, Bro, It's crazy,
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: it's hilarious. I was like on me, I'm like, why
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: are you doing sketch on me? Like I ain't nobody,
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: and he's like, bro, trust me. And so when I
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: saw it, I was like, that's really me.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: That is really me.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: And I got on this show because I went one
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: day to just tell Dave thank you for doing the sketches,
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: because we have a mutual A friend's named Corey Smith,
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: and Cory is the reason Dave is part of the
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: reason Dave does the sketch too, because I think they
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: might have heard this song, like what song was it?
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I don't give it.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't give him. He might have heard it.
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: And he probably was like this would be interesting if
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: that's all he says. But he's actually intelligent.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: And then Corey was like, yeah, John, Corey thought I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: went to Morehouse.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: I just was always hanging out in the AUC because
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: back in the nineties, if you're from Atlanta, you went
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: to the AUC.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Clark.
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: All of that to just get girls, you know what
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: I mean. So you just used to go holler at
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: the girls. So I used to be always up there.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: So Corey was like, no, he's smart, he come from
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: this and that. So Dave ran with it, and so
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: I went to the show to thank Dave and Day
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: was like, man, hang.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Out, I want you to. Let's do a sketch. Like
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: he didn't even have it, he didn't even know I
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: was coming.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: And so we was just we did one sketch and
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: then he had an idea to do another one, so
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: he just had me on camera and he was off
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: camera and we was improving back and forth, and that's
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: how we got.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: The Little John and Little John sketch.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: And to think that I was able to improv with
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: one of the greatest comedians of our time. How many
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: people get to do that? Not many, you know, So
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: that was that was amazing. And Dave to me places
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: that music would never ever be able to take me.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: How did that change everything for you? Just that sketch.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: It just opened me up to more people that didn't
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: get it or didn't would have never listened to the music.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: I remember just being in the airport and like all
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: kinds of white people coming to me, like whole families
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: and all just all types of people because he was
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: moving the needle at that time for culture so and
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: it just yeah, it just opened up a lot more doors.
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: And that's when they started putting the t's in the name.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: Little John that yeah so and shout out the cat
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: Williams soon because he he co signed me too when
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: he did his Pimp Chronicles. I think that's his greatest
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: special to. I'm going to record saying that.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: And you know, we he brought me out and let
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: me do.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: My catchphrases and we ended up going in the studio
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: working on some songs together. He just come by the house,
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: shout out the cat. I need to get you in
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: the gym with me. Cat, you can go work out,
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: you can run, but can you push them weight up?
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Try to do that to do People come up to
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: you all the time like come on one time.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, could be yeah. Man, they don't do
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it as much as they used to.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: But like people that used to hang out with me,
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: like say too early two thousands are you know twenty
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: tens used to be like, bro, you don't get tired
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: of that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even hear it no more.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: I zone the people out, but like, yeah, I used
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: to be at like TSA, a grocery store exactly, and
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: they do it, so they so they expect me to
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: do it, so they keep doing it and I might just.
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: Be like, what's up, bro, meditation album? You do it's
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: a soft yeah, but you.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So that's the new the new meditation album.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: So when we did the first, we recorded a bunch
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: of stuff.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: When we you know, early too well, sorry.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: When I did the first Meditation album, I recorded a
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: couple other projects. So one of the projects was something
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: that my my god, Doug Davis came up with. He
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: was like, you should take your songs and remix them
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: into meditations and I was like okay. So we recorded it,
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: but I was like, this don't need to come out
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: first because nobody's gonna take me serious.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna like, yeah, get low and ground, you know.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: So I was like, we're not gonna do that first,
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: So now the time we're gonna drop that. I think
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: it's a fun project, but it's real meditations, but it's
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: just a playoff of the songs that you know and love.
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: I just got a couple of questions, you know, the
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: industry rewards constant energy, right, like you gotta always be on.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: How did you learn the difference between performance energy and
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: just personal peace?
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: I just in myself. It's spiritual again, Like I'm just
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: I just know when to be crazy, little John.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I know, be going to be just cool, chill.
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: It's just just let my spirit got me everywhere, you
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: So and you talking about the meditation and the mind
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: from this, like what I would ask when you were
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: at the height of crump, did you even have the
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: language for like stress and anxiety and burnout back then?
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: No? I didn't.
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: I was just go go go go, go, go, go, go, go,
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: go go go. It was all just cause I don't
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know where the peak is, you know what
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: I mean? And I don't even expect to get where
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: I got, you know, because I just started off me
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: and the Eastside Boys. We did that first song who
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: You With, just to make something for the clubs of Atlanta,
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: and then that turned into Okay, now you gotta do
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: an album, and then that turned into being on Anger
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: Management tour with Eminem and fifty Cent, and then fifty
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: cent even took me to Australia, I went on tour
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: with fifty in Australia, you.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: So it's like, I'm just happy to be here. I'm
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: just gonna keep going because and that's how I am. Like,
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: I just I gotta work. I gotta keep working, you know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: because these are opportunities that are coming to me. So
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: I don't want to you know, somebody sitting at home
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: right now wishing they could be out, or somebody else
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: could take this opportunity and use it if I don't
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: use it.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take advantage of all of that. Now.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: You are a big drink at one time and totally
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: stopped Yes, yeah, what made you stop that drinking?
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Turning fifty?
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Had to fifty to stop drinking?
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Ye, judge, judgment you damn.
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: So I turned fifty and for a while, like a
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: year or two, I had this constant like discomfort, excuse me,
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: discomfort in my side and I didn't even know what
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: it was. So fifty like, I need to go get
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: a I need to go to a doctor, right, So
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: I went to the doctor and the doctor is like, okay,
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: for one is I thought it was my liver because
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I drink too much. It's got to be
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: my liver, and I'm scared. So he's like, your liver's
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: on the other side, it's not yours. And then he's like,
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: it's probably inflammation in your gut. He's like, you're you're
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: fifty years old. You need a colonoscope anyway to check
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: for polyps. So when I'm in there, I can check.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: I can do an endoscopy and check your gut. So
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: comes back and I have inflammation in my gut. So
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: I had stopped drinking because I was scared of deliver.
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: So I had already stopped. So by the time I
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: had the colonoscopy, it had been like six months, and
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: I was like, I'm good, I'm just gonna not drink
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: no more.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: So I think I was going like three months and
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I was like six months. I was like nah. Then
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, maybe I go nine months.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: Then I went to a year, and I was like
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: when I got to the year mark, I was like,
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: I'm good.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I don't even need to drink no more, you know.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: And I think one thing that kind.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: Of that that like brought some insight to me, Like
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: health has been like important to me for a while
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: because I knew like a guy that had a triple bypass,
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: he was like thirty five. So that started me first
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: on my like I need to start correcting stuff with
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: myself before it's too late, because the older you get,
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: the harder it is to reverse what's going on. So
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: that's that started. And then when I was dating my
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: partner Jamila, she really pushed me into I think she
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: saved my life because she pushed me into getting my
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: blood work done and getting lab work done. I found
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: out I had inflammation in my gut. Like I knew
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: I had inflammation in my gut, but I candida gut
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: is the key to a lot of problems in your body,
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: So you got to get the I saw the rock
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: talking and he said his gut was messed up too,
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: So no healthy bacteria in my gut Candida inflammation. And
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: then I found other like markers in my blood work
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: that I was like, oh, I gotta.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Change this or take this out of my diet.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: So all of that helped me to like hone in
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: on exactly what I needed to do also to get
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: my health like more tuned tuned in too.
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: I saw you say it was like you came out
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: of a like a ah, stop drinking.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: Because if you think about it, I was drinking every weekend,
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: so I never fully got over the drinking.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Like I would drink a bottle of forty two a night, Jesus, Jesus.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Like so Friday, Saturday a bottle of forty two.
• 56:11
  Speaker 8: Acoholic drinking, but all the nights a whole bottle.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Every because I'm doing shots.
• 56:20
  Speaker 8: We might do a couple of shots, but we ain't
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: doing a whole bottle.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I'm the party guy.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: We don't want to drink with me, and I gotta
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: drink with everybody. When I turned down the shot, they
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: were like, bro, come on, man, yeah, so I gotta
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: damn near a bottle of night. So I'm always constantly
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: getting over the hangover or the getting My body is
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: still trying to recover, so I never am recovering. So
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: when you lay off the alcohol, you come out of
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: that fog and it's like it's like everything is clearer, everything,
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: you know. So I just I like the way that felt.
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: And then you know, when I started working out, like
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: I can work out like.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: You can't work out when you hungover.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: And then you put an alcohol in your body that's
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: sugar that's that's not gonna help you get the goals.
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: So if you write a book, you know it should
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: be to have a chapter turned down for what and
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: you talk about exactly all the reasons why you ask
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: your turn down.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, especially especially when you get in your up there
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: in the years, you know, because right I'm fifty three,
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: I'm going down the hill, you know what I mean.
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: I want to have That's another thing. At my fifties,
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: I was like, I'm over that top. I don't know
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: how much time I got. I want to enjoy my life.
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: I want to enjoy my life. I want to do
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: stuff that makes me happy.
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: Do you think people truly understand the loneliness that can
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: come with success and entertainment.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: No, because they just see the private jets and the
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: trips and all that. They don't realize.
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you can't go nowhere because people bugging you.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: You can't spend time with your loved ones without people
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: bugging you, or the the I gotta make another hit record,
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like or even when you
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: start to go down, you're not as hot as you were.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: People not picking up the phone and all that. Yeah,
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: it's a lot of most people couldn't deal with this life.
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: It could not deal with it because there's too much
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: pressure then people on the internet with all their opinions
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: and all of this and that, and it's a lot
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: of pressure that you cannot be built weak to be
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: in entertainment industry.
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: So yes, sir, when you my last question, when you
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: think about legacy, now, how much of it is about
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: peace and purpose rather than I guess the plaques and
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: the parties and all that.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: I think my legacy is going to be all about
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: positivity because every step of the way it's been crunk
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: was positive. It was a positive release. Then now EDM
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: stuff was positive, positive part It was all partying based initially.
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: But it wasn't like I was saying go do a
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: drive by on the ops, you know what I mean.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: It was just like, hey, go release turn up, you know.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: And then you know, now in my latter years, it's meditation, mindfulness,
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: get therapy, fellas, I'm gonna tell everybody out there, get therapy,
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: get a therapy.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: If it's going through it.
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: You should not be left to your own devices to
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: deal with some serious issues. Sometimes you need to talk
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: to someone that's a qualified person.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: And I did em DR.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Did you ever do MDR?
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: EMDR is amazing because it taps into your subconscious. When
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: I did em DR, stuff came out that I didn't
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: even really didn't know what's there. So it can tap
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: to the it can find the root of why you
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: got that trauma.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: And then like, so, yeah, I have not done any
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: of that yet.
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: I don't want to do it. I'm thinking about it,
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: but I don't want to. I don't want it to
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: change me. It won't because I just feel like I'm
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: already at a certain place. But I do want to
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: go tap into those things that I have locked deep,
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: deep deep.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: A lot of people who done E.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: D and MAR tell me that the iaching experience is
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: pretty similar because it's just everything that is in your
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: subconscious that you suppressed.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: God is like, no, look at it. Yeah, it's all
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: on the table, that scary feeling, that stuff.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: No, it's just it's profound.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: Em DR is profound because it's like that's why I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: act like that, or that's why my mother treated me that.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Way, or this is why that happened.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: It helps you and then like em DR, Like when
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: I did it recently, I was able to go to
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: my childhood self and think it's okay, I'm here, it's fine,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: You're you're loved, you're appreciated, you know, all of that.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: And it helped me to get past whatever that was.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: So that's why I like it, because it's stuff that,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: you know, because I was kind of not worced, but
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: I was like, someone was like, you should you know, go,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: you should try it, you know, because it helped them,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: and I did it and I was like.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm good. I don't need this. And then I
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: was like, damn, it's like I did not know that.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: And the more you do it, the more stuff comes
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: to you, and you just realize this is.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Why I'm the way I am.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: I can now get past this and I can change
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: these habits, you know, and I can be living more.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I can live a better life. Wow.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: Man, little John, you are an icon and one of
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: the greatest producers of all time. You bought people so
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: much joy. In this next chapter of your life where
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: you are helping people heal, I think it's gonna be
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: your best work yet.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Brother. I do too. I do to.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: It feels so good when people come to me and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: say you help me, you know, without me even directly
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: doing anything for them.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: I'm helping so many people and inspiring people.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: Like with the with the fitness journey, with the you know,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: the bodybuilding thing. Coming in third in this competition. I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: it was just it was hard to just do it period.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: It was hard to just even get there. And I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: was just happy to be a part of it. And
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: I just want to inspire people to say that that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: say I can't work out, I don't have time. I'm
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: on the road, I'm a new father, I'm in the studio,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: I'm doing a million things, and I'm able to go
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: to the gym and transform my body, eat right, do
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: all these things so.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: You can do it too.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: Billy Blanks Man, you can do you training hit training
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 6: where it's your music playlist, all the crunk music going
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: body by John.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I love it, Okay, help me out with it. Solon Man,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I love it. Inspire.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: There you go, well, Little John, we appreciate you for
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: joining us. And also December eighteenth, you're performing for our
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: assister station.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Shingle jingle Ball.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: So what what should do people expect for Little John
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: in that show trunk period?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: They want it because it says Little John and friends,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: it's krunk Crunk.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: And friendsunk crunk, you know commercial just it's Atlanta and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: I gotta hit them hard. You know, Jermaine talking crap
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: like but Jamaine my best family. Jermaine actually called me,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: was like, who you're bringing out?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I got friends friends.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: So but I'm just gonna bring the crunk. That's what
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: That's what they want. That's what I'm gonna give them.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: That's what they ain't seen in the wild, So that's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: what I'm giving them. I ain't trying to do nothing
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: crazy crunk excited.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Could that error ever come back?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: Like the way metro Booman just did futuristic some Could
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: that crunk era ever come back?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: If it did, it'll I don't know if people can
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: handle it.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: I think we need like grown people who don't get
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: the release.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you have something you put everybody, everybody put their
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: phones up.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: But you don't heal the same way.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: You can't be.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: And I don't know how to sprinkle down to the yns,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 8: Like how would they don't need sprinkle?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: Think that krunk could be recreated, But I'm glad that
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: we do have these crunk classics that will never die,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: so I don't think it could come back.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: Maybe I do something next year, Maybe I do, like
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: why not you know Metro did?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe why not? I was talking about it. But it's
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: just got to be the right.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: Everything with me is the right time, you know, when
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: the universe tell me it's time for it, that's when
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: it happens.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: All right, Well ninety six point one, get your tickets.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: He will be performing at the Atlanti's Jingle Ball. Can't
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: wait to see you, guys. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Good morning, every day, Breakfast Club.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Finish for y'all.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: Done,