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Timothée Chalamet _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _551(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: I have some new tour dates to let you know about.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be in East Lansing. I'll be in Toledo, Ohio. Rama,
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  Speaker 1: Ontario in the Canada. Pittsburgh, PA.
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  Speaker 2: Eugene, Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: Kennewick, Washington, Seattle. Washington, Victoria, BC in the Canada. College Station, Texas. Belton, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: San Antonio, Durant. Amarillo, Oxford, Mississippi. Howdy, howdy. Fayetteville, Arkansas, Tuscaloosa, Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: and Tallahassee, Florida, Rosemont, Illinois, Winnipeg, and Calgary in the Canada.
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  Speaker 1: Get all your tickets at theovon.com slash T-O-U-R. And thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for your support. Today's guest is one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest young acting person people in the world.
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  Speaker 1: acting humans. You've seen him in Dune, Willy Wonka, A
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  Speaker 1: Beautiful Boy, and now his new movie, A Complete Unknown,
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  Speaker 1: where he plays Bob Dylan in theaters Christmas Day.
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  Speaker 2: You can check it out.
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  Speaker 1: I had a great time getting to know him. He's
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  Speaker 1: an enthralling dang human. Today's guest is Timothee Chalamet.
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  Speaker 2: And I will not We were just in Nashville. Let's
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  Speaker 2: start there. Are we good, Zach? Yeah. Cool beans. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I saw you were just in Nashville.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Had you been there before? Yeah, once, kind of exploring.
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  Speaker 2: I was doing a movie called Bones and All. I
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  Speaker 2: was trying to do research. Oh, yeah. It's my producer's favorite.
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  Speaker 2: No way. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. Have we
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  Speaker 2: just met?
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  Speaker 1: Yep, that guy, Zach, is his name. No way.
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  Speaker 2: And he loves it. Yeah, he really loves it. No way.
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  Speaker 2: So I had wandered there, and this time got a
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  Speaker 2: better sense of it. But it's a great city, huh?
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  Speaker 1: It's a good place. It's like a little city. It's
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  Speaker 1: like a little city, kind of like a fancy little city.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like the JonBenet of cities.
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  Speaker 2: Of cities.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of like, you know, look at this outfit, kind of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but dangerous at the same time. But it
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  Speaker 1: has kind of like an element of like mystery kind of.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of a weird example.
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  Speaker 2: No, but you're not, are you from there? No, I'm
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  Speaker 2: from Louisiana. Okay. But Nashville, here's what it is. It's safe.
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  Speaker 1: It's nice. People are friendly. You can't cheat on your
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  Speaker 1: wife there.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not, Because the city's too small. Too small. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't take your wife or spouse or significant other.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't even, yeah, like, and you couldn't take them
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  Speaker 1: to dinner or something and not see somebody that would
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  Speaker 1: know one of you or them.
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  Speaker 2: There's like 14 people? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's just, there's enough people, but there's a, it's a,
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  Speaker 1: the South's a little gossipy.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of like, it's not a really
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  Speaker 1: an adultery city. It's not a city that's, adultery is
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  Speaker 1: not like a trademark of the city probably.
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  Speaker 2: Is it? How is it different from New Orleans? New Orleans?
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans is a little bit more dangerous, I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know? And probably better food, to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to have crime to have good food.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of how I feel.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard the MO. Really? Yeah. That's interesting. You
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  Speaker 2: ever had that Yakum in New Orleans? That Yakum? It's
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  Speaker 2: not a drug, is it? No, no, no. Okay. Because
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  Speaker 2: I've had that.
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  Speaker 1: You've never had Yakum? I haven't had the edible version, no.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there's Vietnamese food.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I was watching top five, um,
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  Speaker 2: like top five New Orleans street foods. Hey, y'all come homey.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. That's a deep cut right there.
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  Speaker 1: It is a very deep cut. I thought it came
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  Speaker 1: in a small baggie. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't had this, bro.
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  Speaker 1: I have not had this, but you know, New Orleans
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  Speaker 1: has one of the largest, uh, Vietnamese populations.
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  Speaker 2: Really in the country. I did not know that. I've
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  Speaker 2: never been to Nola. I think so. You haven't never.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man. A lot of stuff shoots there for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: I just haven't, haven't been there before. Um, Yeah. It's mythical.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Nashville reminded me of Austin a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: You know, 6th Street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That promenade a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Sort of, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that Broadway, that area. That area is really
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  Speaker 1: interesting down there. What else about Nashville that I really like?
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  Speaker 2: You go to the soccer games ever? Nashville SC? I
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  Speaker 2: haven't been to that.
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  Speaker 1: I go to watch Lipscomb College. They play soccer there.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: At Lipscomb College.
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  Speaker 2: No way.
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  Speaker 1: It's a college, and they have soccer, and so I'll
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  Speaker 1: go watch some of their games.
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  Speaker 2: What's their student body population? That's a good question. Pull
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  Speaker 2: it up. Lipscomb College. Let's see.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of those colleges that right next to it
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  Speaker 1: has the high school also and then the children's school
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  Speaker 1: or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like you can go there from K to
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  Speaker 2: senior year of college. Yeah, you could go from K
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  Speaker 2: to 40. 4,800 students. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But their soccer team has been ranked in the top
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  Speaker 1: 25 the past few years.
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  Speaker 2: So you love, like, you're a diehard season ticket holder.
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  Speaker 2: You're there all the time. Sometimes I'll text my neighbor
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  Speaker 2: who's a coach. You're like, hey, you mind if I
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  Speaker 2: pop by? You might just pop by, and they're cool.
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  Speaker 2: And he'll be on the field.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be like, yeah, sure, pull up.
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  Speaker 2: Do you get, like, the McConaughey UT pass? You can
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  Speaker 2: go wherever you want?
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  Speaker 1: Um it's there's not a lot of bleachers so.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty you're basically on the field all the time
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  Speaker 2: yeah i was amazed i was at that that ut
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  Speaker 2: georgia game mcconaughey gets oh you went to that he
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  Speaker 2: gets full license yeah he could do whatever he wants
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  Speaker 2: because i already had a field pass i thought i
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  Speaker 2: was pretty right you know high level in some way
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  Speaker 2: he's like with the coach he's calling plays he's coaching
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  Speaker 2: he's taping a guy he's taping a guy up he's
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  Speaker 2: like you're gonna be all right he's living the experience
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  Speaker 2: you know I got a buddy who's on the Nashville
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  Speaker 2: soccer team. His name's Alex Mule. Oh, really? Let's pull
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  Speaker 2: him up.
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  Speaker 1: Let's give him some shine because I need to go
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  Speaker 1: watch him. You think if I hit him up, he
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  Speaker 1: would invite him to a game?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And the games are often sold out. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I grew up with this guy. Alex Mule. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: he was always M-U-Y-L. That's the bane of his life, man. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: People that can't spell Mule, yeah. This is amazing, man.
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  Speaker 2: I wish this is like, this is what AI is
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  Speaker 2: going to be in 20 years. Just say it and
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  Speaker 2: it pops up. Oh, as we're talking, the computer follows. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I never thought about that. Have you tried, do
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  Speaker 2: you use the... VR? The Vision? Oculus, that kind of thing? No, no, no, the, well,
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  Speaker 2: Oculus too, I guess, but the AirPod. What do you mean,
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  Speaker 2: like Blue Blockers or something? The Vision Pro.
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  Speaker 1: Vision Pro, what is it?
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  Speaker 2: The Apple Helmet. But tell me about Mule. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my bad.
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  Speaker 1: So you played ball with him growing up?
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  Speaker 2: I played ball with him growing up, and he was
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  Speaker 2: just gifted, you know. It's tough. You know, you could
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  Speaker 2: play like, it's like that Last Dance Chicago Bulls documentary.
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  Speaker 2: Some of those guys will be partying all night, and
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  Speaker 2: then they'll drop, like Dennis Rodman will drop 40, you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, I could work my ass off. If you
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  Speaker 2: don't have the gift of physical talent, of athleticism, you're cooked. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're done, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, some people got that damn, you got a damn
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  Speaker 1: foot Mozart out there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have that. Yeah, yeah. Alex Mule is a
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  Speaker 2: foot Mozart.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's fire.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to go check him out, man. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't been to see a game.
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  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: I did get to go see Vanderbilt, which is the
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  Speaker 1: college that's the SEC college that's actually in Nashville.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I visited. Yeah, I was at Vanderbilt. Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I saw a video of you out there. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I never had that American college experience. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: went to Columbia for a second. I went to NYU,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm jealous of that. But Vanderbilt, respect to Vanderbilt,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't feel like UT or it didn't feel like
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  Speaker 2: I had a huge campus or a huge. No, it's
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  Speaker 2: a smaller energy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But we went to one game this year, they played
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  Speaker 1: Alabama and they beat, they upset Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: So that was huge. It was crazy. Because usually their
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  Speaker 2: football program is not that good, right? It's not. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And they know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: not a secret. No, no, no. You got to keep
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  Speaker 2: keeping their place.
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  Speaker 1: But that was the game they won. And look, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't even, it was like all these lawyers and attorneys
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  Speaker 1: like tearing down the goalposts.
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  Speaker 2: No way.
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  Speaker 1: They even had, they had a, there we are after
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  Speaker 1: the game, we actually, we.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a big law program?
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  Speaker 1: Carl Lee is their coach and he's an awesome guy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a class act. He just gets smoked here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we got to, yeah. There you are.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, what are you doing on the field, dude? Dude,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing on the field, dude? You almost
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  Speaker 1: ran that person over.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, bro. That's amazing. Put on a helmet, girl. That
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  Speaker 2: was a girl that should not have been. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You almost ran her over.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she shouldn't be playing wide out, you know? It's
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  Speaker 1: just different. But no, it's a, what's it like there?
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  Speaker 1: It's a, oh, after the game. So they had like engineers,
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  Speaker 1: like how should we take this down? And then there's
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  Speaker 1: just drunk kids like just rip it down. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: then they carried it down Broadway, which is like the
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  Speaker 1: street you were talking about, the goalpost, because they never.
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  Speaker 2: Had it happen. And those kids had never broken a
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  Speaker 2: law in their life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. They even tried to valet park the goalpost at
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  Speaker 1: like a restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a fancy, like an expensive, fancy type school?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's a lot of, it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of kids that have never played probably dice
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  Speaker 1: in an alley, I would say that. So I would
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  Speaker 1: say it's, you know, probably pretty decent.
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  Speaker 2: You know? Man, that's pretty crazy, huh?
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  Speaker 1: But it is a really cool, it's a cool program, man.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I could see three stadiums from my hotel.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I could see the Vanderbilt one, the
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans one, and Nissan Stadium. Shout out, Nissan. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Is Nissan a big Tennessee car manufacturer? That's a good question.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. It sounds.
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  Speaker 1: Nissan?
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  Speaker 2: It's Japan. Japanese. It's Japanese. Huh. Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, thanks for coming in, Timothy. I appreciate it, man.
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  Speaker 2: Man, thank you. You know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Not with the shameless plug, but I got this movie,
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  Speaker 2: A Complete Unknown, coming out on Christmas Day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Did you actually see it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic, man. So I'm excited that we can actually talk
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  Speaker 2: about it. And I was very much in the time
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  Speaker 2: period of the movie the whole time and trying to
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  Speaker 2: stay without being a dick, you know, within the bounds
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  Speaker 2: of the character. But somebody in the hair and makeup
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  Speaker 2: trailer at the end of the day, they would play
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  Speaker 2: this podcast, you know, which is how I discovered it.
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  Speaker 2: And particularly the episodes with the garbage man and sort
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  Speaker 2: of like the real life episodes, the lunch lady, the coroner. Wayne.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wayne, the garbage man. He's doing good. those were, those
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  Speaker 2: were like awesome episodes, you know, sort of like worldviews
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  Speaker 2: that I wouldn't get otherwise, you know? And, uh, And
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  Speaker 2: you're from New York, right? And I'm from New York,
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  Speaker 2: so Garbage Man, he totally recontextualized that for me.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, he did a great job. Because they used to have,
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  Speaker 1: they used to have.
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  Speaker 2: I used to hate them, you know. Yeah. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 2: you think they're taking their time. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I realize how tough that job is. It's rough.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he was like throwing dogs in the back
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  Speaker 2: of the, I mean, that story is, do you remember that?
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of, yeah, a lot of, yeah, missing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Formerly living things started to disappear. In the back
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  Speaker 2: of a.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they used to have incinerators in the buildings.
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  Speaker 2: That's what was craziest. Right, right, right. So that.
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  Speaker 1: the people would put their trash, it would hit the incinerator.
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  Speaker 1: And then they would just have, I mean, this is
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  Speaker 1: like six or seven years ago, I think, but they
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  Speaker 1: would just have soot in barrels, you know, or in
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  Speaker 1: cans on the side of the street. And then they
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  Speaker 1: started getting bags. But he said, yeah, there's been times where.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of things have shown up. But thank you, man,
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  Speaker 1: for checking it out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Or just hearing it on accident. No, hearing it
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  Speaker 2: on accident and loving it. And I'm so happy you
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  Speaker 2: saw this movie. And this is like, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: hope this isn't like a shameless self-plug. No, it's not
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  Speaker 2: at all. We're happy that you're here and it's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: And you get to do a biopic or biopic.
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  Speaker 2: I still don't know, man. Biopic sounds like a medical procedure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that sounds like someone, you know, is inspecting
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  Speaker 2: your lungs to see if you played the role the
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  Speaker 2: right way. I like biopic. Biopic sounds fancier.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, biopic does sound fancier. I think that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, biopic.
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  Speaker 1: Was it like, so let me think about a question
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  Speaker 1: like that. Just so people know, this is about a
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  Speaker 1: four or five year period in Bob Dylan's life.
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  Speaker 2: This is a four or five year period in the
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  Speaker 2: early Bob Dylan's life. And I'm sure a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people listening to your program are already fans of Bob Dylan's,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm sure a lot aren't because to my generation,
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  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, some people don't know. Some don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And he's really one of the, most fantastic American artists
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  Speaker 2: of all time and has influenced our culture in so
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  Speaker 2: many deep ways. And it's just, you know, I grew
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  Speaker 2: up on, on Kid Cudi and hip hop, and that
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  Speaker 2: was really my, you know, my, my, my passion. And
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  Speaker 2: then somewhere in my twenties, because this movie I was
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  Speaker 2: working on, I became obsessed with this, this man, Bob Dylan,
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  Speaker 2: who's absolutely, I could just speak about him endlessly. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I would love if people saw this movie and,
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  Speaker 2: even if they got a passing interest, discover the world
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  Speaker 2: of Bob Dylan. I feel like we get to be
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  Speaker 2: a bridge or a gateway to this guy. And I
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  Speaker 2: hope this isn't one of your episodes where you got
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  Speaker 2: like someone, you know, like one of the ones people
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  Speaker 2: skip because it's like a person plugging. So, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like a, I don't want to use
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  Speaker 2: that word celebrity, but like, you know. Because my favorite
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  Speaker 2: episodes of yours are... Oh, like a fancier person, hypothetically fancier? No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean it like that, but just like... Like
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  Speaker 2: I said, I like the ones that are off the cuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have a lot of celebrities on, really.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I never really used
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  Speaker 2: that word, but... No, that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. Look, man, I think... I
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  Speaker 1: feel like this part of.
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  Speaker 2: The job is that, though. Because when I'm working, I'm
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  Speaker 2: really very much in it. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: And then here... Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, actors get kind of a weird rap, though, because
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  Speaker 1: then they also have to be celebrities.
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  Speaker 2: In some way. Yeah, in some way. So that's it. Well,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to get your movie out, there's only
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  Speaker 2: a limit of how pretentious in some way, you know, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I want this, especially this movie. I believe
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  Speaker 2: in this movie and I believe in this man. He's
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  Speaker 2: a tremendous artist. So I want to, you know, get
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  Speaker 2: it out there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's, man, I think that, like,
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  Speaker 1: you did the movie with the young man with drug
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  Speaker 1: addiction with Steve Carell's son.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, beautiful boy, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Which was awesome, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you struggle with that a little bit, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, and so many people have, and it's like,
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: so I don't think there's any doubt in people's mind
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: about your ability to be a bridge between whether it
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: be a story or a person. to a new generation
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: or to new listeners or people kind of imbibing it.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: And I appreciate you bringing up Beautiful Boy and I
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: feel like you're doing the exact same thing, not to
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: just blow smoke up each other's ass, but I feel
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: like when you.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, we're a couple of naughty Native Americans right here.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: Come on, come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. If you're listening to this and not watching this,
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: we're fully at the bottom half of our bodies.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: We're out of your booth and it's getting spicy out here.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: I don't even know.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: What that means. Okay, I don't either. I don't even
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: know what that means. Take that out. No, no, no.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: Because I know you speak on it too and you
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: probably empower people, you know, that otherwise would be– doing
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: some naughty stuff. Yeah.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: People want to hear us. People want to see it.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: People want to see like a little bit of a
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: journey that they can relate to or hear about.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Um, so about the character, like, so Bob Dylan has
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: like such a famous, cause yeah, a lot of younger
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: generation might not know about him, you know? Yeah. And, um,
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of, um, he has such like a, That's.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: A good Bob Dylan, man. Was it? Yeah, that was good.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: How did you do when you first decided? Because I'm
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: sure you had to practice it in your room or something. Like,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: tell me about the first time.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: That was super gradual. Can't do it with people that
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: are fans. Because people that are fans of Bob Dylan
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: will go, they'll all tell you you got it wrong.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: That's the trouble with playing someone so famous and beloved.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Everyone's got an opinion about him. Yeah. So you got
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: to put the blinders on and just kind of do
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: it around people that you know. Look, man, I'm usually
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: not that prick actor who's, like, obliging his friends or
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: whatever to listen to the character he's working on. But
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: this is the one time I did that. Oh, I
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: think you have to do that. Yeah, I had to
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: do it, man.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Because, yeah, you don't want to get out there and
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: do a bad job of it.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Exactly, man. This would have been blasphemous. I would have
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: gotten killed. I could still get killed. Yeah. But now
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: it seems like, you know, getting a little bit of love.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? You might be back. Hey,
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: snipers down. Lay down, snipers. Yeah.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: But was there a moment where you tried that, where
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: you actually tried it?
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, very gradually. I had to. There's a great dialect
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: coach named Tim Monick. You know, you can work with
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: people that are like experts in this field and they'll
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: tell you how to go about it. This man, Tim Monick,
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: invented dialect coaching. He came up with it. Tim Monick.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Let's bring him up. M-O-N-I-C-H. He's worked with Leonardo DiCaprio.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: He's worked with everyone, you know. So he's a famous
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: dialect coach. Man, I've never looked him up before. Tim Monick,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: there he is right there. Okay, is that the man? Yeah,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: there I am with him. I got in trouble anyway.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, you did?
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: What happened to you? I got in trouble because the
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: strike had just hit and I was just hanging out
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: with him and I didn't really get in trouble. People
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: thought I was a scab and I was working with him. Oh, yeah.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Crossing lisp lines or whatever. You're right, dude. You're right.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: You're right. That's the only union where you'd be crossing
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: the picket line by working on your tongue. But it
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: was a real thing, dude. Oh, yeah. Really? Stop working
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: on the accent. How dare you learn Spanish? Yeah, exactly.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Wow. Man, next time I'll call you. Because actually,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: when you put it like that, it's like, what are
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: you supposed to do? And I wasn't working with him.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I was hanging out. We went to a shitty, super shitty...
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: It's bleak, man. Like, the way Bob Dylan, when he
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: came up, there was, like, all these cafes in downtown
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: New York and the music. And now I was trying
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: to find the folk scene in modern-day Manhattan. It was brutal.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think in Manhattan, probably. Maybe, like, somewhere in
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the village, probably, right?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was brutal. It's still rough. I mean,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I went to Cafe Wah, where Bob Dylan came up,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: and it's just, like, Aerosmith covers now. So some guy goes,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Dream on! And you're like, oh, man. Dream on! Yeah,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: this is not how it was. Dream on!
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: It has like a small Aeropostale in the back kind of. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: that's kind of a bummer. Did you have to meet
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Bob to get into this? I never got the chance
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: to meet him.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Not yet at all? No. Oh, he's super reclusive.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: He's elusive and reclusive. He's that reclusive? Yeah. I don't
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: know if he'll ever see the movie. Yeah. He did
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: this X post, I've been taught to say. It's not
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: tweet anymore, I guess. Fucking X post. But he did
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: it like three days ago, you know. And that was
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: more than... He....
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: There's a movie about me opening soon called A Complete Unknown.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Timothee Chalamet is starring in the lead role. Timmy's a brilliant,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Timmy is a brilliant actor. I kind of respect it though.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Nice. Honoring your youth. Timmy's my 12 year old expression, dude.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Timmy's a brilliant actor.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: So I'm sure he's going to be a completely believable
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: as me or younger me or some other me. The
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: film's taken from Elijah Wald's Dylan Goes Electric, a book
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: that came out in 2015. It's a fantastic retelling of
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: events from the early 60s that led up to the
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: fiasco at Newport after you've seen the movie, read the book.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's nice. Super sweet. So do you even talk
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to him on the phone or anything yet? No, nothing.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I never got the chance to talk to him. I
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: like that you pointed out the Timmy. I tried, you know,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: when I was 19, 20, I was evolving into Timothy.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: You said some letters. Add some letters. Add some letters
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: from Timmy to Timothy.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you were going Tim, sorry.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Tim would be, you know. You're going Timothy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Like I said, from Timmy to Timothy. Yeah, 40s, 50s,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: couple ex-wives. Then you go Tim. Then you go Tim.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm like mowing my lawn all day. Yeah,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: hey Tim. Exactly. Missed a spot. Missed a spot. You're like, oh,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: there's a bird's nest there. Calm down. Sort of a
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: disgruntled expression on my face watching my kids' sports games
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: because they're not playing to the level that I wish
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: they were.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: At a swim meet, too.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: At a swim meet.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Swim meet's the worst because you can't even talk to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the person next to you because it echoes so much
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: in the room.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I've never been to a swim meet in my life.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Even if you whisper a little, the people hear it.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: It travels. Yes. It travels.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, you cannot gossip.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: How many swim meets? You go to Lipscomb College swim meets?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't go to that. I did it. Yeah,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I did. Yeah, be careful, dude.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: You're right. And it is.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And I definitely watch from my car with binoculars. So
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: it's not too creepy.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: So it's normal. It's totally normal. So the fact you've
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: been doing it since your early 20s means that, you know.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: It's cool. I've got a grandfather in. Your grandfather in.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: That guy's not a pedophile. He's an artist. He's an artist.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And this show happened, you know, this show sprouted in
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: this period of you doing that. So how can you
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: fault the process? The proof's in the pudding. Yeah.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: How do you expect him not to rehearse his own life?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the thing. You just can't gossip at
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: a swim meet, man. What are we talking about?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never been to a swim meet.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: You know, that's a very non, you know, like there's
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: four pools in New York City.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That's true, huh? We don't
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: have swim meets, but we have... What do you guys
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: have there? We play dice in the alleys, like you
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: were saying before. No, I'm kidding. But, you know, I
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: was talking about this the other day. Like, my high school,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't let us out for lunch. Would they let
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: you out for lunch or no?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: You could do whatever you wanted at lunch. They didn't
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: let us out. I feel like my skin tone from
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: when I went into high school, by the time I
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: got out, I looked sickly. I haven't recovered.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, it got very, you got kind of like, yeah, very... Anemic.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yep, anemic. I'm sure.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: What else is it called? Kind of Boo Radley-esque.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. You know.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they should give you at least an hour
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: in the sun. They give it to inmates.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And just because I'm learning so much. studies, I
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: don't get it. I don't get it. Exactly. And then
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I'd be in the basement doing, just acting all day.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Just because I'm learning fucking Voltaire. I don't get 40
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: minutes in the sun. Yeah, I don't get 40 minutes
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: in the sun.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Nothing.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: A raisin got in the sun.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Hey. I don't. Hey, that's a good play. That was
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: right there, man. Denzel Washington, baby. I will accept that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I will accept that. Denzel Washington. Thank you very much.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I heard your big... Play guy. Really?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: No.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, God, I don't want that going around.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, man, listen, that's the subversive. No one would expect it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: That's very low key, dude. Is there a theater in Nashville?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a theater program. That's a good question.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I grew up in Louisiana. We didn't, we had some theater.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: We just did like.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Did you ever do theater growing up? Yeah, I did.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Well, it was just called drama club or whatever. And
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it was a lot of people who was, it was
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of people I think that were wanted to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: be actors. And then a lot of people that just
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: were kind of like.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: The outsiders. Yeah, outsiders. I went to the high school.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: It was the opposite. The drama kids were the. Oh,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: the cool kids. Yeah. And the basketball kids were like,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: there's like four of them.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Bro, that's got to be interesting because a lot of
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: people don't get that opportunity.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: No, it skewed my perception of the real world because
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: then I got to Columbia and I was like, oh, shit,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: the value system is totally different. But actually, in a
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: serious way, it kind of motivated me to go pursue
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: my acting even harder. But did you ever think about acting?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: You're like, what's the exchange rate on this Hamlet scene
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I have? No, exactly, exactly, exactly. Yeah, I did just
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: some stuff at school, but I would always mess it up.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: We did Sherlock Holmes or something. And I was like
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Watson or whatever, his buddy or whatever. It's like his
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: man crush, whatever. And our guy was very like progressive.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: So we tried to make it there to be like
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: this small like lover scene or just like some ambiance
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: between Sherlock and Watson.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: You didn't go for it? I don't know if I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: went for it or not. I was like 13. You
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: gotta go out there, man. You gotta be bold. You
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: gotta be bold. You would have earned the respect of
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: all your classmates. Or actually, I don't know where you're from.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Who knows? Who knows? Pick on either way.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there was this definitely kind of romantic where
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: They're looking for the clues, and they're kind of finding
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: each other. That's what the guy said. And I was like,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: this seems like insane.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: But you didn't do it. I tried my best.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: But then I remember the first night I got out
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: there on stage, I took on this Latino accent for
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: some reason.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: That's a strong choice, man. It's all about strong choices.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And nobody knew it was coming. Perfect. And I was like,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: what's up, Holmes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: And then– so, yeah, that was just– and that's when
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I realized it was tough for me to be in
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: some ensemble things. I just wanted to be by myself,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you know, like.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: That kind of thing. Yeah, you found– I mean, that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: where it formed, right? Yeah, that's where stand-up came from.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Would you do a movie if it came your way?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: If I've got to make it myself, I think. Okay,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: all right. You don't want to be slotted into something.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I just am super protective about myself for some reason,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: which may seem kind of weird.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know. For some reason, you had me on.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: That was a bad choice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, a
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: good choice, dude.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So in New York, when you were a kid,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: who was your best friend?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Best friend growing up? Nobody, man. I was always pursuing acting, dude.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Were you really? I was born, I was bred at
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers Studios in a little embryo fluid. It was
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: just like that? Yeah, no, man, you know, probably Brett Goldstein,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: A kid in your building or something from school?
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: No, he was a kid on the Upper West Side
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: and my older sister was friends with his older sister, Brenna,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and just, I think they still live there, Greg and Bess,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: those are his parents, and Brett, you know, that was
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: my whole friend group. Then they all, my whole friend
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: group went to this school called Computer School and then
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I went to a school called Booker T. Washington so
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I lost my I lost my friend group there. And
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: do you have a roommate now?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: No.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: You don't? Thank God, man. That's like more than that. Sorry. No,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, but fucking that's more than anything. That's what
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Jeslyn Nick says on Netflix. He says, you really made
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: it when you don't have a roommate anymore.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, in New York. In life. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think, well, especially in New York because
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it's so expensive. In other places, some people get a
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: roommate because they just get maybe lonesome or whatever.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Do you have a roommate?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I don't have a roommate, you know. I would like
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to get one or I'd like to get a wife
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: maybe this year. Where, where, uh, next year, how do
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you go?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: 2020 wide. That's what I'm calling it. How do you
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: go about that?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I think getting out there and meeting people.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Do you have friends that you trust, um, that you
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: would trust, like to set you up.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Some, but sometimes you're shocked at who they'll set you
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: up with.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Really? Like you're insulted.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're just like, well, we must think that
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you think differently. How so?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Give me an example.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Uh, just like no names, but just somebody put me
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: all with like a, you know, just a, um, a
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: woman that had like, you know, a Any way I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: say this, I lose here. Okay.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: All right. All right. All right. All right. No offense.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Just people that there was no. How do you do
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: this format? Like you're never nervous that people are going
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: to watch that you're talking about?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just make sure that I just try
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and don't say anything that would be really mean about somebody.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: So right there it could have got weird.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: And you send, you'll send scary people after people, you know. Oh, well,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, we'll... You'll send guys in suits outside people's houses,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: make sure they don't.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: There's a podcast sphere out there that things, you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: get handled or whatever.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I don't want to use that term. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: That's terrifying.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: There's no lawyer involved.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I'll say that. You're just winging it. The Lord is
• 24:37
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  Speaker 1: of the person's existence in a strange way does that
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  Speaker 1: make any sense.
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  Speaker 2: To you yeah man yes and no you know because
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: i've become such a fan of his that um it's
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: not like i feel like i'm a blemish on a
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  Speaker 2: legacy but i know.
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  Speaker 1: Not at all that's what i mean no no i
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  Speaker 1: know we're gonna think when they yeah some people are
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  Speaker 1: gonna think you are but they're gonna think that when
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  Speaker 1: come i'm just saying that even.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: If i have like you know a healthy amount of
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  Speaker 2: self-respect it's never gonna come close to who he is
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: so i like the idea that i could be a
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: a bridge but like i had a buddy that said
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: um the Johnny Cash movie, Joaquin Phoenix, who is the
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: same director who walked the line, he said, you know,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I actually like Joaquin's versions of Johnny Cash's songs better
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: than Johnny Cash's songs. But I never wanted that. Sincerely,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I don't want that to happen here. And I wanted
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: to protect against it because Bob's got this raw voice.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: He's got this, like, iron voice. And I never wanted
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: these songs to be sort of, like, more gentle than
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: his songs, you know? And I had to fight against
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: that because the recordings we made, a lot of them
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: were super... It's hard, man. He was playing on a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: beat-up guitar with shitty recorders. He had a bronchitis in
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: his early 20s. His voice was all fucked up. And
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want it to be watered down. Because he
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: very purposefully was... He liked Jack Kerouac and Moriarty. A
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: lot of the books I read said he didn't have
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: great hygiene and stuff like that. So I didn't want
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the movie to be watered down all of a sudden.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: You wanted to honor him as much as you could.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: But also without being him as much.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Not do this Hollywood version, basically. Because these biopics, it's
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: a fine line, man. And I've never done anything like this.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I usually play a role.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Wonka you did.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Wonka I did. But that's maybe not real. No,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: but it's real. Yeah, thank God. Well, don't tell the children.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Thank God, thank God. No, but also, you know, probably
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: have to get psychiatric help. But no, and there's a
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: certain pressure with that Wonka too. People are like very
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: protective of characters they love. You know, they don't want,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and there's sort of like a cynicism about Hollywood, you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: about like why are they keep revisiting. The Wonka thing
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I felt was justified because it's a new story. We
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: weren't doing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. We were doing
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: sort of an origin story. And, uh, by the way,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen Wonka. Have you? Yeah.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Which one have I seen? Um, yeah, I've seen all
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: You watched it while you were in the car spying
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: on the, on the, on the list. You had it
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: playing on the audio.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: If you, first of all, if you've never seen the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Wonka movie, you just listen to the audio.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: That's a little bit, that's already weird too. It's kind
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: of a, yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. They had Stevie Wonder
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: at the movie last night. Oh really?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting bridge right there.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: No, but I was saying thing, man. I was like, yeah, yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: No disrespect, but I was just like, man.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: No, the godfather of surround sound, basically, yeah.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what I heard.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: The premiere was pretty interesting. So last night was your premiere.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: It was premiere in L.A., man. It was great, you know.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, thanks for coming the day after your premiere.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I was a little late. I apologize, man.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Were you guys up late?
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: We were up late, and I basically shot this movie,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Marty Supreme, all of a fall. These crazy directors, or
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: crazy director Josh Saft. You ever see Uncut Gems? Oh, yeah,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: so good. That director. So it's kind of that energy,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: that chaotic thing. So it wasn't like a low... energy
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: shoot this was like 16 hour days for three months
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: then I went right into this so I haven't been
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: like drinking at all never not that I ever really
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: had a problem with it but just you know because
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: these days and I actually find my mind is so
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: much sharper I'm amazed I haven't gotten sick through this
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: whole like last couple months but last night I had
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: to have a couple drinks I'm kind of fried today
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: man yeah I'm sorry my voice is a.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Little no you got a celebrate did you have to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: get up and make a speech what's it like at
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I oh man great question it's like oh here we
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: are oh man I don't do the, I call it
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: instant nostalgia, you know?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, seeing these pictures like this?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean. It's kind of bizarre, isn't it? Yeah,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: it's kind of bizarre, man. This is good, because this is,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, it's a great cast and a great director,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: so we all have fun. Edward Norton, man, Edward Norton
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: should come on this podcast, man. He's a legend, absolute legend. Oh, yeah,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: he's a super legend. He was in the, he was
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: in the. You ever see Rounders? Yeah. You play, do
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: you play Texas Hold'em? Yeah, I play it sometimes.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Um he's good and that both of the actresses were
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: great the ladies in it oh and his wife was
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: in it what's her name.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Uh erico erico erico.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah they got a um beautiful group of ladies
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: in there and men too.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah like a boyd holbrook man with the blue suit
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: on oh that's a handsome man is he real handsome Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's a stud.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Well, dude, you're kind of a handsome dude, like a
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: lot of dudes.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: You are, man. Look at that. Calm down, brother. I've
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: seen so many people ape your haircut. Really? Yeah.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, there's a lot of freaking thieves out there.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: How long have you had it?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: This haircut I've had for probably, it's a little dicey today.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I've had it for probably, well, I had it as
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a child.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, no way. So this goes back. Oh, yeah.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And then I try to like blend in like whenever
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I moved to Hollywood and stuff and it didn't work
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: And so then I tried to blend out. Oh, so
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: you started in L.A. before Nashville.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I lived out here for 12 years. I
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: was doing stand-up comedy. This is where I started doing
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: stand-up comedy.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, where? At the Comedy Store and stuff like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Comedy Store. It was awesome, man. I really enjoyed it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: And a whole, like, sort of generation of comedians came
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: out of there then, huh?
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was, like, yeah, all types. They had, like,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Chris D'Elia, Tom Segura.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Is that a bigger comedy base here than New York,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: you think? That's a good question. You know what's so funny?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: They're totally different from each other, and some people in
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: one don't even know the people in the other.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Because the audience is different, you think?
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Just, just, it's just a total different group of people.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Like you go there and it's almost like it feels
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: like you have to start all over. It's a, it's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: just a total different, like you, I'll go into a
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: club there and it feels like a whole different thing.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I'm walking into a club for the first time. In
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: New York, you don't think you get the love you
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: get out here? I think you, you'll get the, you'll
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: get a lot of respect, but you just feel that way.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: It's not your territory, you know?
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right, right.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And you want to give respect to the guys that
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: that's their grounds that they walk on every day.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Interesting, interesting, interesting. Cause that's where they live.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Like if somebody came out and was like being real flashy,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: but they're not in your, In your kind of club here,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: it would be the same way, I think.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of code of conduct like that.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Would you ever do Saturday Night Live? I don't know, man.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. I went and saw it recently.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, right? It's a crazy setup. It is crazy.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: You did it? Yeah, I've done it twice. It's super
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: dialed in, right?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I should have known that.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, dude.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I went with Chris Farley's brother. It was the first
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: time that he'd been back to go to SNL since
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: his brother was on there, since he'd went with him.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: What was that like for him? He was, dude, he
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: told so many great stories. I wish they'd have put
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: him out on stage. I was like, have him go
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Tell his stories. It was just classic, man. But I
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: went to watch Bill Burr. I'm a big Bill Burr fan,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: so I went to watch him.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Did you see the last Sandler special on Netflix?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: McGee performed that night, too.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, sick. That was dope. Wow, yeah.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: And then, there we are right.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: There with Chris Farley's brother right there. I thought that
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: was McGee. Dude, you look like you're 23, man. It's true.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Did I look like I'm on HGH? No, no, no.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I got to get some HGH. Do you work out? Yeah,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I do work out, dude. Yeah, I do. God. Yeah.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I went today. I mean, that's what I mean.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Um, but yeah, we once works out once. Um, What
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: else do I want to know about this film? So
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: you didn't hear anything from Bob. What about like his
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: wife or his kid or something?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: No, his kids, you know, almost towards the start, Monica,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: who plays Joan Baez in the movie, she was in
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: touch with Joan the whole time. And I thought about
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: reaching out to his kids. But the thing is, when
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: somebody gets revered like Bob at some point, he becomes
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: this legend, you know, people can sanitize the past. What
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: do you mean by that when you say that, just
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: so we know? They could present the best version of someone,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you know, and not present their flaws. You know, even
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of the documentaries about Bob, they just paint
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: him as a genius. There's one documentary called Don't Look Back,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: the D.A. Pennebaker one, where you actually see him raw.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: It just captures his behavior. And it was sort of
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: right before he got too famous where he turned his back,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: you know, on letting himself be filmed. And so that
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: was like the biggest help for me. And I thought
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: about talking to his kids or his grandkids, but actually
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I was at the University of Minnesota like three days ago.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: We're doing a sort of a screening for the students there.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: And then someone said, this is Milo Dillon. This is
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: his grandnephew. And he looked like, kind of looked like Bob.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: And he said, can we get a picture? And then
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: he put his finger out and he said, you FaZe?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: And then I said, well, like the video game, he said, no, nevermind.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: So the new Dillon, so even all the Dillons are unique.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what that means. You FaZe? You
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: FaZe with the finger like that. I don't know.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know FaZe Banks. I don't know a
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: lot of the FaZe guys. I know that one of
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: them gave CPR to Sketch one night or something when
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: he wasn't doing good. Whoa.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: But anyway, shouldn't have said.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: That out loud.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Who's Sketch? I don't know who Sketch is. What's up, brother?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: That guy. Did you see him? No. Oh, my gosh. Wow.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: It's crazy how different worlds are so different, dude.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Sketch him. No.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: No. Oh, yes, I have.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I have.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: What's up, brother? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: on this. Oh, yeah, he's been on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: He's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: He is so creative. He has one of the most
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: creative minds I've been around.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Just like he has his own pentameter of making jokes
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and stuff.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: It's pretty fascinating. Is he a stand-up?
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Nope, he's not a stand-up. I think there's this new
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: thing that goes on now where as if somebody's– it's
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: interesting what's going to happen with stand-up because stand-up has
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: been this thing that people always go practice and then
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: they go do. But now a lot of people build
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: so much traction from social media.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they pop off like that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Right, but then how do you take that and perform it?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Is there a performance element?
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a whole different thing. Yeah. Yeah, because some
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: people on their podcasts are, granted, this stand-up is different, right?
• 39:14
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• 39:15
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• 39:19
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  Speaker 2: again in some way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, well, the news got like very all
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• 39:43
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  Speaker 1: Right oh it's a risk dollars wise yeah i mean
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  Speaker 1: dana white was on here one time and one of
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  Speaker 1: It was a biking company or something. No, it was
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  Speaker 2: he died on the Peloton in the episode. He dies
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  Speaker 2: in the episode and then their stock crashed because people
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  Speaker 2: off on that. I guess. That wasn't a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: That's a real thing, right, Mr. Biggs? I think. Can
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: we see that? Yeah, we're pulling it up. Anyway. Oh,
• 41:02
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• 41:05
  Speaker 1: He married Samantha, huh?
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know about this show. Yeah.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Um, what else was I going to think about? Oh,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: when you think about, so I just want to make
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: sure that we get a lot about this film and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: what I thought that was.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What did you like about it? And you don't
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: have to, uh, you don't have to, you don't have
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: to like the movie, but were you, did you know
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: anything about Bob Dylan before or no?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Nope. I, uh, well, yeah, I know some of his music,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I know he was like, your parents or
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: your mom listened to it.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: My mom listened to it. My bet, this kid I
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: grew up with, he would play it in his room
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: every night. He had the harmonic and everything. It was
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: a big Bob Dylan thing. Yeah. My, my, um, my
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: friend Ty, who I used to live with, uh, Yeah,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, Bob Dylan was the first mumble rapper.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I mean... Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, man, absolutely. Yeah, whining
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: with a backbeat.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Everybody's like, you know, thinking that it was some of
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: these other guys like Uzi Vert or maybe Kodak Black.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Who's just a mumbler. I mean, at a certain point,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: can we just say that?
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: He's great. Yeah, he was a mumbler. I mean, at
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: some point he enunciated better. Yeah. But definitely early on.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gotten a little rocky. I feel like it's
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: gotten rocky recently.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Which is cool, man. He might be going through some stuff, too.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Who knows? Sometimes it's so hard to know, you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: what people are going through. Well, he definitely keeps it
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: behind a screen. We don't know what's going on.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I probably said more in this interview than he said
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: his whole life.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: It's mythical. That'd be great if we had a word.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: A word counter. For you and Kodak. Yeah. You're like
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: just miles ahead of him.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally. Dude, you could.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Sneeze and be like seven words ahead of him, I
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: feel like.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: You said it. You said it. What about some other?
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I just want to think anything else about the
• 42:34
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• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Did you have any issues with that?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Or how did you guys make that happen? Not really, man.
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• 42:44
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• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Like a little John Cena thing. Just for promo. Just
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  Speaker 2: for promo. It's clicks. It's clicks. I'll do it on this. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Then you land on that. Oh, man. You
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  Speaker 2: right through there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think we
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  Speaker 2: should get that. Yeah. It's that time of year, man.
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• 44:46
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• 44:49
  Speaker 2: you a big holidays guy? You know what?
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I think it does remind me a little bit to
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  Speaker 1: slow down, kind of. you know, which is nice because
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  Speaker 1: life gets going pretty fast a lot of times.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Do you think you're more elfish or Santa? Oh, it's
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: a good question. Oh, I wish I could be a
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  Speaker 2: little more Santa. I'm more of a, sometimes a little
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: more Mrs. Claus. Like I'll start bitching about a lot
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: of shit. About nothing. Yeah. About nothing.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I'll just get a lot of shit. But I just
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: got to slow down. It's just been like a long year.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been busy.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: What are you going to do for, are you going
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: to go away or anything?
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to go to Louisiana and see some family.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Then I might try to take a vacation for a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: few days.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: We'll see. A little Baton Rouge?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my family lives right down there. So what about you?
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be here because I've been all over
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: the place. I'm going to New York tonight. Then I
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: go to London and then do all this promo for
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: the movie.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, you said you have to promo for this movie.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: For how long does promo take?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Well, it's coming out on Christmas, so I'm going every day,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: you know. But I love the movie. That's why, you know,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: that's why, shit, man, I'm trying to go as hard
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: as possible. And, yeah. You know, and then fucking come
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: back here and be with my family, be with my
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: new little niece. Oh, you got a new niece? First one?
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: First one. Let's go, dude. That's a crazy moment. What's
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: her name?
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Can you bring a picture of her? We can't show
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a picture of her.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I don't even think, I think my sister's kept her offline.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: You know, my sister lives in a sort of like a,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: she's with a group of people in like a forest
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: type thing in France. No way. You're wearing it near Annecy? Yeah,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: near Nancy, yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In a forest. No internet.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry. No, no.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Let's check in on your sister. You know, let's email
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: her a meal.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Let's give her a French Groupon. French Groupon. No, but she's... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: No Groupons in France, man. No Groupons in France. No
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Groupons and a high property tax.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: They have high property tax over there?
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, man. Beautiful property and they don't want people just
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: coming in, you know, not, you know.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Just milling around for 40 bucks a month property tax.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I'm in that age now where I'll chat GBT like
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: what are the most attractive low property tax places.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: In America or around the world. Oh, yeah.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: One of them was my neighborhood growing up, dude. I
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: remember our property tax was $ 8 one year. My mom
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: paid in cash, dude, right out of her purse. I
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: was like, where do we live at? Wait, who'd she
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: give it to? The guy that came by. Was it
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: a legit guy, you think? He looked pretty legit. He
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: had all of his buttons on his head.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: He had a hoodie that said government. He had a
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: couple of them, yeah. She just gave him eight bucks. Oh, man.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Same thing, man. I grew up in like a Mitchell Llama.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: You know about Mitchell Llama? Oh, yeah. The restaurant stars
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: or whatever? No, no, no, no, no. Mitchell Llama is like,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: there's like two, to my understanding, there's two versions of
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: like good arts housing here. You got Section 8. That
• 47:24
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• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yep. Oh, that damn Mitchell Llama, brother.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: That's me, baby. Moderate.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Mitchell, I'm a program for affordable rental and cooperative housing
• 47:35
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• 47:38
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• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Dude, wow. So how do you know New York, man?
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I like New York. I mean, yeah, it's definitely fascinating.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Do you ever live there?
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: No, I just stay there for like maybe three months
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: at the most.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I would live there.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: If I get a wife and she lives there, I'll stay.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I'll go live there. What's the ideal, you know, what
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: does she look like both inside and out?
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Well, she looks like, probably looks like a nice lady,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I think. Let me think about the rest of it.
• 48:05
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• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe didn't.
• 48:09
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, dude. She's looking for– Likes to laugh.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Has a good sense of humor.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Because people that laugh get jokes usually.
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  Speaker 2: You can't– Yeah. Yeah.
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• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Ooh, I hope she can, but I'm not trying to
• 48:34
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• 48:38
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• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I'm down for it.
• 48:46
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  Speaker 2: Not currently. Is there, like, shit everywhere when you walk in?
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: No. No, mine was organized. I've got my tree up
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Nice, you've got a tree. Mm-hmm.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I got a box of gifts. There's a lady that
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I don't even know who has sent me a box
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: of Christmas ornaments for the past four years.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Sweet.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: It comes every year.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: I put them up on the tree. And it's got
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: a little mic and a camera in there. There's the, yeah. Yeah.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: She's just, bro, that's such a good idea. She's just
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: watching you watch.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Every Christmas it's called, it's a murder movie.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: It's a murder, yeah.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Or it's just some movie about, it's about somebody who
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: used to love somebody and they're watching their family now.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: And they send them this random box and people put
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: it on their tree.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: They don't know. Yeah. And it has a camera in it.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: And they have a camera in it. Yeah. Write it, baby.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to. But we did. That's it. What
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: do you watch on Christmas? I watch. What would the
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: camera see you doing?
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Well, we're supposed to do Christmas caroling this year with
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: a couple of fellows from the gym, actually. And so
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: we're supposed to practice on Friday. And we just hired
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: a cool brother over there in Nashville to help us
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: learn some of the lyrics.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: You say brother, too. I love when you say that.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. We're excited about it. There's all brothers going,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: so you got to respect the culture, man.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Oh, man.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and then what are we going to go? Oh,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I watched Family Man. Have you ever seen that one?
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: No, I've never seen Family Man. With Nicolas Cage? Nicolas Cage.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: It's a great movie. One of the greats. Have you
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: ever met him? No, man, but Matchstick Men is one
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: of my favorite movies ever. Yeah. You know, Nicolas Cage, man.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: What a life. But yeah, I'd like to get a
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: wife maybe. What about, there's kind of a love triangle
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: in the movie. Yeah.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: So the women's Joan Baez.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Joan Baez and Sylvie Russo. Is Sylvie Russo, was she
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: an artist? I couldn't tell. Yeah, she's, her real name's
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Suze Rotolo in real life, but the real Bob Dylan
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: was still very protective over her. She was never really famous.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: So that was one of his big script notes. He said,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: change that name. And, you know, just, I think he
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: felt protective over her legacy in some way.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: And so he had some notes about the script.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The love triangle is sort of one of
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: the big, You know, like we do these Q &
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: As for the movie now and people will say, was Bob,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: was his behavior towards the people that he was in
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: a relationship with in his life, you know, it's definitely complicated.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: But my answer is always he was focused on his
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: art first and foremost. Also, this movie is about people
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: in their early 20s. You don't really have life figured out,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: especially in relationship then. Yeah. Stuff is a mess at
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: that age. So he was kind of between these two
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: women in the movie and Joan Baez is a musician
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: and artist, ambitious the way Bob would have been. And
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Sylvie is really the more grounded character. I think what
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Elle Fanning does in the movie is incredible. You kind
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: of see the movie through her eyes because she's not
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: one of these famous musicians. She's really just a real
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: person and is, you know, deeply affected.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, she was very affected by Dylan and her character was.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: That was interesting to see.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the things that... Well, she was... She's the
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: only person in the movie that doesn't have a transactional
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: relationship with him.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Really loves him for who he is. And, you know,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: that was our theory. You know, I never talked about Dylan,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: but I feel like that's why I think he's still
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: fond of that relationship and private about it because... If
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: maybe the rest of his life could be confusing, I
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: don't want to speak for him, but confusing about who's
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: being genuine with me and who's not. She was always
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: the clear day one. Clear candidate.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. Yeah.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I found like when I was watching it, yeah,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: you're kind of rooting. It's weird because who you're rooting
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: for changes almost from scene to scene in the movie. Yeah.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, no one's like a great... Besides Elle Fanning,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: everyone comes off a little... Real. Yeah, yeah, hopefully, yeah.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Like flawed, but like in a human way. Flawed in
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: a human way, and a little... Especially in your early 20s, man,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out your life. Oh, dude. They
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: don't even, yeah. Were you a saint in your early 20s?
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Dude. No, I mean, I was a Saints fan. I'm
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: a New Orleans Saints fan, but I was not. You're
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: at the game, Black Bucket. I mean, I had on
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: maybe a, you know, I might have had on a
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees jersey.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Drew Brees jersey on your 16th Miller Lite. Dude, yeah,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: that's for sure. But no, yeah, it's like, yeah, how
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: do you even start to get things figured out? But
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: that's one thing that I liked about it. I like
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: seeing the different, and I like that there was like, okay,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: what's this relationship like over here going to happen? What's
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: his relationship like over here gonna happen? And then just
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: seeing like, I did get a better idea of like, oh, okay,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Bob Dylan was just kind of like affected dude that
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: he kind of was maybe better than he thought he
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: was or he was actually so great and they tried
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: to manipulate him. It was just all so confusing, you know, like,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: and I think it was confusing to him and it
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: was like, it was just a lot going on and
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: he seemed like a unique person and probably like a,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: secretly sensitive guy. And so for all those things to happen,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: you know, so quick to him and then for him
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: to him to try to figure it out and navigate
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: what was real. I don't know. Man, exactly. And that's
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: something I can relate to, not, not in the relationships
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: necessarily in my life, but you know, you feel like
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: your career gets going. I don't know how you feel
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: about that. And you want to protect your energy and, and,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: but you still want to have close, you know, friendships
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: and relationships. And, but at first it's very, it's a
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: hard thing to navigate, particularly if you want to keep writing,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: you keep wanting like Bob Dylan, you know, and like
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: you said he was genuinely great at it he had
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: a gift from God at that point in his career
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: he said it in an Ed Bradley interview in 2004
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: he's like I feel like God was writing through me
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: and he says in the interview I can't do it
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: anymore he almost says it like like he misses it
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: like he misses it yeah it's a beautiful moment in
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: this Ed Bradley interview he just he says I can't
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: do it anymore I don't know how those words were
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: coming to me and wow yeah and I feel like
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: musicians even more than actors I feel like an actor
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: like into your 30s and 40s and 50s as your
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: face ages you can keep doing great work right the
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: gravitas of your life lives on your face you know
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: what i mean right and so.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: The more you learn in life the more abilities.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have yeah the more trauma you go through
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: whatever and i feel like as a musician you can
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: still do still do great shit but it's really like
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: a young man's game yeah you know yeah.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Because you have to do all that touring and stuff
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: as well yeah it beats you up for you the
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: movie kind of tours for.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: You exactly you know I love you know it's funny
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: we do these Q & A' s so I get the
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: backstage experience I'm like holy shit I'm coming out man
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: like fuck they're gonna say my name I'm all excited
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: and I come out and then as opposed to a
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: rock star I fucking sit in a chair Oh, yeah.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Watch this.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: And I sit down, and I try to give poised answers.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: And just make sure your posture's okay the whole time.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Dude, it's humiliating.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Posture rocking in the house tonight, that shit is so
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: hard to deal with, dude.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Because I'll be backstage, and you hear the crowd, like,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Timothee Chalamet, yeah. And then I fucking take my seat. Yeah, yeah,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: and then I'm poised. Yeah, you're like, oh, let's go!
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: And you sit down. And I sit down, dude. It's humiliating.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: It's very anti, I don't know what the word is,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: but Somebody else probably knows it, but yeah, I don't
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: know it.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, dude, you know what, though?
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: I think it was I do think that it was
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: interesting if you frame it up like this is what
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: it is. It's a it's a it's a it's a
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: few years in a man's life. That was a very
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: interesting man who's probably written so many songs that some
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: young people don't even know that he wrote.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I was listening. I was like, no way he wrote that.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: And like just some relationships that he had with other
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: artists that you may not even know about.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: And sort of the first guy for me in American
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: pop culture that said, I'm going to do whatever the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: fuck I want. That's a good point. Yeah. And that
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: was like sort of blasphemous. Like every artist through the
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: last 30, 40, 50 years that a lot of whom
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: you can't shout out because they basically burned so many bridges.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: But Bob Dylan was the first. He just wouldn't take
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: no for an answer. He just was fired up about
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: his art. And his reception.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think it sounds like anything.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't sound corny because he really didn't
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: give a fuck. And that to me was really refreshing
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: to work on. You know, now we live in a
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: time where it's not only is it hard to be
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: rebellious about your art, but it's as much about the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Coliseum's reaction. You know, you think about a clip you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: like online or something you like or don't like, the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: first thing you do is you go to the comments.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: It's as much about how people are reacting, you know
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, as it is about the actual thing.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: So in some ways it's harder now. It's kind of
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: harder now.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Because not only do you have to manage what you present,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: but you have to manage also how... I don't know
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: No, no, but yeah, I was just going to say,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: and also... To avoid that, that's kind of what I'm
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: doing these days, man. You just gotta like, you have
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: to bury your head so far. Even like the pictures
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: from the premiere, I'm just like, you know, I just
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: try to put the shutters on. Because it's not healthy, man.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, looking at all your stuff and looking at that?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. No, it's weird. No, it's fucking weird.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: And you're not supposed to do it. No, we're supposed
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: to be, you know, like gathering nuts and berries. No,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: that's not like I'm fucking serious.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no, they had that first guy, Narcissus or whatever,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: looked in the river and saw himself, you know.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: And then he's like, hey, where are the ladies at
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: or whatever?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: And you're like, whoa, dude, what are you talking about?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about, dude? You're not even that
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: good looking. Yeah, killer rap.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Rabbit dude we yeah we are our tribe needs to
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: eat make a salad bro yeah we got yeah yeah.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: We got people to feed we have 17 people and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: our elder is fucking suffering.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Like you over here like trying to start clare clare
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: all or whatever.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly fucking working on your you know um.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's like just a bunch of deore moisturizer talking
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: about lip filler to everybody like what are you even
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: talking about.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Dude it's 300 BC what does that even mean stop
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: working on your Raya profile fucking help us with the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: fire we need to put out in the forest you
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: narcissistic prick yeah dude what are you talking about yeah
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: I have no fucking clue no clue.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Um what about other um because you can only do
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: so many biopics too yeah yeah that's kind of weird
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: you kind of you burned a biopic I burned a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: biopic is it biopic we don't know I don't know
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I burned a biopic and I gotta go back in
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: three months and I gotta check if it's still there
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: and um no you're right i can only do so
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: many especially like music ones i'll be honest what are
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: some other ones you think i have a couple.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Listen man oh ideas no you go first okay like
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: that i could do or you could do i don't
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: know if.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I keep talking people really why do you sit with
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: him and just talk the whole time so we gotta get.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: You to say no i mean well i'm trying to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: think of ones you could do um you could do
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: um i know i could do maybe You could do
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: a Brad Pitt biopic. You know what I'm saying? Put
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: a little of that right there. Come on, put a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: little sprinkle on it.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Put a little sprinkle on it. No. Maybe a Brad
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: pic was stranded somewhere. Maybe like a hitchhiker something.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: No, but you could... You could do... Would you ever
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: do Mabu, you think? Little Mabu? Oh my God, dude.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: That is fucking funny. That's an alternate time. I'm him
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: in an alternate timeline. Oh yeah, definitely. Because you know
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I used to... Well, you know there's two ways you
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: could have gone. That's what we like to say a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: lot of times. Yeah. That's me in an alternate timeline.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I love him, bro. I don't know enough about him.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I know he's from New York, though. You're right. You know,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: it's a great point. I don't fucking know if I
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: like him.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: He could be a dirtball. But I like some of
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: his energy, dude. Some of his shit is pretty hot.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: It's very Bob Dylan, man. Just be who you want
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: to be. That's a good point. Fuck it.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: That's how I do feel about him. It's like, oh,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's kind of unique. He kind of
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: reminds me of like an Eminem, like when Eminem kind
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: of like. He reminds me of how Eminem was just
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: unique in his time period.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll do a little Mabu biopic. I don't know
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: what it's about. I wonder what the tragedy of his
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: life is. That's a good point. It could be some
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: crypto failure. Yeah, he launched Mabu coin. Oh, he's going
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: to be so pissed at us, dude. Man. Bro, no, dude. No,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know him. I mean, he's clearly killing it.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: If he wasn't killing it, we wouldn't be talking about him.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think he's definitely super entertaining. Yeah, and we're
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: just joking around.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: And he started that conservation fund. Did he really? For
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: that thing I was talking about. Sorry, bro. You're good, bro. Dude,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: you should be a politician, dude. You're good. I was acting.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: But what are that? Or maybe Abraham Lincoln's son or whatever?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I could be Abraham Lincoln. Me or you? You. What
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: about if you- Abraham Lincoln's son? Who was Abraham Lincoln's son?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Dave Lincoln. That's a ridiculous idea. It was Dave Lincoln.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Was it? Dave Lincoln. Was it really? Or Ricky Lincoln?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Who was his son?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Tad lincoln oh my god yeah oh yeah go to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: his information let's see him wow that's dude you could
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: be tad lincoln.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: The fourth son of abraham lincoln what was his uh
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: born with a cleft lip and palate i'll work with
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: tim monick we were talking about earlier i'll work with
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: tim monick on it you know and hopefully there's.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: No strike imagine his father gave some of the greatest
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: speeches and here he is and he has this kind
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: of like a little bit of a um like a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: disfigurement or some impairment. And he's like, how do I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: overcome this? Just say something as important that my father said.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Did he ever? Did he ever? We could change it.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: We could just give him the speech.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: They were considered notorious hellions, him and his brother Willie.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: He was sick a lot. He got typhoid. A lot
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: of people were getting sick back then. Yeah. Oh, easily.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: You caught a Frisbee that was dirty and you were
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: down for two months.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: He went to see Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp. Oh, wow.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: On April 14th, 1865, Tad went to Grover's Theater to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: play Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp while his parents attended
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: the performance of Tom Taylor's play Our American Cousin at
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Ford Theater.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: That night, his father was assassinated. Wow, so he was at...
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: That could be my big scene. Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: And you finally run up to him as he's... Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: And you say something super important.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Who's playing Abraham Lincoln?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Who's playing Lincoln? I don't know. We gotta get somebody good.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Pa's dead. I can hardly believe that I should never
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: see him again. This is some heavy shit. After the assassination, Mary, Robert,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: and Tad lived together in Chicago. Oh, he died at 18, dude.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: I can't... Come on.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Ugh.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, tuberculosis. This was a waste of a pitch.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Pneumonia and congestive heart failure. You could do it, man.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: I think you could do it. Age me down a
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: little bit. Or Jim Carrey.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I think I could see you playing a Jim Carrey
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: one day, too. I was thinking about that.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: He's brilliant, dude. He's so brilliant. Have you seen his.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: He went to some fashion event in like 2018, 2019.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: You see this red carpet interview. It's the biggest not
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: give a fuck interview of all time. Yeah, if we
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: have enough time. We should add 20 minutes to this
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: anyway if we can. This is the greatest.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: He looks so dropped into being himself.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Yes. I've covered a lot of fashion weeks. This is
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: the first time I've run into Jim Carrey. Wait. Controlling
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: the room. You're wandering the streets. You need a date
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: to the party? What's up? No, no, no. I'm doing
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: just fine. I just, you know. There's no meaning to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: any of this. So I wanted to find the most
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: meaningless thing that I could come to and join. And
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: here I am. I mean, you've got to admit, it's
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: completely meaningless. Well, they say they're celebrating icons inside. Do
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: you believe in icons? Boy, that is just the absolute
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: lowest aiming, you know, possibility that we could come up with.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: It's like icons. Do you believe in icons? I don't
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: believe in personalities. I don't believe that you exist, but
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: there is a wonderful fragrance in the air. You don't
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: believe certain icons? Even when she doesn't exist, he's still
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: trying to flirt. Artistry? You're one of them. On the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: good foot.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Ha! He's like, you're invisible, but let's smash.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't believe in icons. That's good, man.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in personality.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: That would be an interesting guy to play because that's
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: really cool. That's a cool scene to play if you
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: could do that. Yeah, and what his crazy life. Yeah,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: what his life was like.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he was the biggest, biggest. Bigger than anything.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Bigger than anything, right? In the 2000s. Oh, hang on.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah and he had a show called In Living Color
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: before that that was like Jamie Foxx was on.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: It yeah he was like the only white guy on
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: it yeah right it was him yeah and they had.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: A now he's become an artist yeah now he's an
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: artist but it's just interesting to get all the art
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: out of your system you know cause some artists I.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Think that's kind of what he I think that's what
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: he feels like I saw an interview with him today
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Sonic the Hedgehog they said why'd you do this he
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: said for the money hmm but what a life cause
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: when Bruce Almighty was coming on I mean really he
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: was like the biggest oh yeah.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Wow What about, do you feel like you have to
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: be like, because you're kind of like the, the, the,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: the it guy, like the it younger guy in Hollywood.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: For sure. For sure.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: You know, but does that feel like, I don't know.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: And I know it's like, do you, how do you,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: and a lot of that is a lot of times
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: curtailed by like the industry. Like you're like, you have a,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: you have like, I thought you'd come with like, in
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: a tank or something.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Like you drove over here by yourself. Yeah.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: So definitely, um, kind of, I guess, maybe against what
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: I was thinking, which doesn't mean anything. But do you
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: worry about how do you still be yourself and find
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: yourself at a time when you could be so maneuvered
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: by so many bigger pressures?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Listen, man, not to bring you back to the movie,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: but that's where Bob Dylan's so influential. No, this is perfect. No,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: because Bob always followed his path. And what's interesting about
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: the movie industry instead of, like, as opposed to the
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: music industry, the music industry, you write your own music,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's direct to the consumer in some sense. Like,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: you do whatever the fuck you want and if people
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: are vibing with it, you'll know and whatever in the
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: movie industry you do kind of have to there you
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: you got to be reliable you know a musician you
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: show up whenever you want they could be rock star
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: to show four hours late if you're three hours late
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: to a movie they got to call insurance you cost
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: a million dollars now you'll never work again so there's
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: a part of the job that's obedient in a sense
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: but the best art and the best shit we see
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: is stuff that you know people showed up for people
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: showed up but but also where they they broke rules
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: in a sense you know i was just talking to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: you know yeah yeah and and and and So it's
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: a fine line, and I look at it like this.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: This is my inner Tom Cruise where I want movies
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: to be seen, and I don't want to live an
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: unobedient life, but I also want at a time where
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: maybe Hollywood or a movie maker's got a perception of
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: sometimes being out of touch or something or definitely awards-type movies,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I want especially a movie about Bob Dylan I want,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: in all the movies I work on, that's why I
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: did Dune, that's why I did Wonka, and I'm proud
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: that those movies, I know I'm not supposed to pat
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: myself on the back, but those movies were big, you know?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Like in the movie industry, or the movie business, brick
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: and mortar theaters, they don't do the business they once did.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Some of that's inevitable because of streaming, but I want
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: to put my best foot forward. You gotta give back
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: to the industry that gave to you. That's really my M.O.,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: and that's why I'm here. You know, otherwise.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: That's why you can't be the reclusive figure that Bob
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Dylan or Daniel Day-Lewis or these guys were. Because it's
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: not about the bottom line, but the attention isn't guaranteed
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: the way it used to be. You know what I mean?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: I hope this doesn't sound like too inside baseball.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I want inside baseball. You're like a real thinker. So
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: it's not like you're going to give some answer that
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: isn't traveling through your thoughts and you explaining stuff.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: So that's perfect.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: There's no wrong way to answer it. It's a weird thing.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: It's like... Yeah, and then... Also, I had a full-ass
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: real life before my career took off, like, in the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: East Village in New York. So, not that my life
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: isn't real now, but, like, obviously on these press tours
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: and stuff, the days are micromanaged in some way. But, man,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. That's another thing I say. Like, as
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: a musician, or as a pop star, whatever, your music
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: can be about your erosion of humanity. Like, it could
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: be about, hey, I'm driving this car, and this is
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: the crazy lifestyle I live. But if you're an actor,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: if you lose your sense of humanity, if you lose...
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: your stink, for lack of a better word, people will
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: see that on screen. You do see it on screen.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, you see him too fancy, you see him out
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: of touch.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: People are going to know. That's why the Safdie movie
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: I just did, man, he put me through the ringer. Really? Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: I felt like he was testing me early on.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? So a director can kind of
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: put you through some fucking shit?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, Josh knew me since I was... 21. Safdie? Safdie.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: I was 21. Uncut Gems, that's that movie, right? Yeah,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Uncut Gems. That's one of the best movies. There you go, man.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: And Good Time. You know, Good Time with Robert Pattinson,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: he directed too. I haven't seen that.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: I'm saving Robert Pattinson for after, for later.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. But, you know, like early on,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: we had stuff that could have been stunt guys on
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: this movie, on Marty Supreme. And I saw him wanting
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: me to do it. And part of me was like,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: this feels like a test, you know? And I wanted
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: to show him. And now I feel like I've emerged
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: from the other side with no broken bones or whatever,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: thank God. But, and Josh, I know I'm supposed to
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: be talking about the Bob Dylan movie, but Josh is
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: like- It's okay, it's all you acting. Yeah, Josh is
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: the real deal, man. And seriously, Josh Safdie, he's like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: the modern day Scorsese. Dang, I want to meet that guy. Oh, dude,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: you would love him. That's him?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I would like to meet him. Dude, he could
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: play Abraham Lincoln.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: He could play Abraham Lincoln. And you play Tad Lincoln.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I could play Tad Lincoln. Tell him right now. His
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: brother's an actor, Benny. You ever see, you saw the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Nathan Fielder show with Emma Stone on Showtime? No, maybe not.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: That's his brother. I've seen Nathan Fielder's show. Yeah. Wow,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: that's cool. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Wow, that must have been awesome, man. Because that guy,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: that Uncut Gems is so good. I look forward to
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: seeing that.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a crazy, crazy fucking movie.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: So directors can do that. So sometimes it's like that.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a journey.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a journey, yeah. What was the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: biggest journey through the... Unknown, I just want to get
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: the name of it right. A Complete Unknown Christmas Day.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: What was it? Leave it like that.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: What was the biggest journey through A Complete Unknown on
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Christmas Day?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: You know, the biggest journey. Just Christmas. It's only on
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Christmas you can see it comes out on Christmas Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Biggest journey was the music and the voice. And also,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: I've never had my phone off the entire movie. I
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: had three months. You had your phone off the whole movie. Yeah,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I had three months to play this guy. And then
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: the rest of my life, I never get to play
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: him again. So I was locked in. Also- you're never
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: supposed to say you're competitive, but I want, you know,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of music biopics. Yeah. And I
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: wanted to do a great fucking job, man. I love
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Bob Dylan. I love this artist. None of this is
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: for granted. This little misconception about actors too, and acting,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: you can have a cushy job on a TV show.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: If you don't give a fuck about your work, it
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: could be a great lifestyle, right? You're making like high
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: six figures, maybe low seven figures, and you're just showing
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: up when you want. If you give a fuck about
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: what you're doing, these are a These are long ass days. Wow.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? These are 14 hour days,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: six days a week sometimes, you know, three months. Look,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: I know, I know people got it way harder, but
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: I want to feel that grit. You know, I want
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: to feel it. You know, I hope people don't laugh
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: at it. I fucking really, I feel like I'm the
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: hardest working man. Um, anyway, maybe I shouldn't say that, but, uh,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: but you respect what you do. Yeah. Cause you got to,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: what else is the point? I talk about this with
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: friends a lot.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Like this is too weird a lifestyle to be nonchalant about.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Why do this?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: If you're not going to go as hard as possible. Yeah, imagine.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: On Marty Supreme, I'm wearing contacts because he wanted my
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: eyes to be little. So he gives me real glasses
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: that fuck my eyes up, and I'm wearing contacts underneath
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: to offset what the glasses are doing. And my vision
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: was basically fucked up until a day ago. Every time
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: I took these glasses off, my vision was skewed. Wow.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: You're like the Forrest Gump of sight or whatever.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, sort of. Dude, Forrest Gump is,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: we had the Forrest Gump ping pong coaches. Same. Lovely
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: couple in LA, Diego and Wei. Been married 40 years.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: Wei is a Chinese ping pong champion. Nuh-uh. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: from the 80s. She pretty cool? She was, she's like,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: we would train. Yeah, Wei, Wei Li, there she is.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: There she is. That's my ping pong coach. You know,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: we train for three hours and then she'd say, let's
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: play for real. And she's like, she's probably like 97 pounds.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: She's like five foot one and she's just like. Yeah. Unbelievable.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: You're not getting a point across. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: That's beautiful. A little bit of that. Do you, um, yeah.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: Did you have to, so your phone was off for
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: that long. So you just locked in and what would
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: you do? Just go to, do you sleep on set
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: or what do you do?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: What's that like? I sleep on set and you know,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: method acting that gets like a bad rap. People think
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: it's just like a person being a prick and obliging
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: everyone around them to subscribe to a reality. That's not real.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: The thing I came up with, I call it.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, that's just everybody's stepdad as well, you know?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, that's method acting. I need a bear! Yeah, exactly.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Damn it! Give me that goddamn Miller Lite! But I
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: call it method energy because, you know, you'd shit on
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: me too if I'm coming off like a dick, but,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: you know, I just tried to... No cell phones, nothing
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: that reminds you of the present. And... Try to treat
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: it like Bob Dylan as much as possible, especially if
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: you're playing somebody that iconic. That was tough, too. He
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like an icon when he was himself. He
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: was just living his fucking life. So if you talk
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: to too many people, you've got to avoid earworms.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, like if somebody put something in your head that
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: says in there. Yeah.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: That's why Edward Norton, I love him. He's great. Pete
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Seeger in the movie. But he's like, Edward Norton is
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit his character in the movie Birdman, if
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: you ever saw that. He's like a very confident, opinionated actor.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: So I would kind of have to, you know. And
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: then he caught me watching rounders one day. Ooh.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: And then he, then, then it was over. Then he
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: knew he had me. That's like, yeah.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: If you're watching another movie, it's a.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Movie that's like, Oh, you like rounders. And I was like,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: all right, now, now we're going to talk. Oh, hold
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: me for a second. Huh? Yeah. That's a lot. Yeah.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: I'm still jumping on you at the end of this.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: Get ready. As long as it's on the front, brother. Yeah.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: Get ready. Get ready. Calm down, man. Get ready. Get ready.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: I'm getting you at your comfort zone. I've been out
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: of my comfort zone since I was born. All right, fair, fair, fair.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never subscribed to it. Or I never got
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: the keys or whatever. You know the code they give
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: you in high school to your locker? Yeah, you never
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: got that.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: I remember going up to my comfort zone and being like, oh,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think this is it. What's the most comfortable
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: you've ever felt in your life? Oh, that's a great question.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: The most comfortable? Like most in your body, no drugs,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: no alcohol.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Probably after like a sauna and ice bath type of thing.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, you do ice baths? Yeah, yeah, I'll get in there, dude. Oh, yeah.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: I'll freaking just... I'll lay in a polar bear's ass, brother.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: I like it. I like it like that. Oh yeah.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: I like it just brisk like that, you know, I
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: love that.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Would you go to the Arctic? Oh yeah, I would
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: go up there. Mr.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Beast just went up there. He went to Antarctica.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what he, but he said it was
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: nothing up there. There's not even like, you can't be like, Hey,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: let's go somewhere. And like, no, you can't.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: I don't get how that stuff works, man. Where does
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: he get, where does he get the money? He's just,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: he's just huge, huh?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: I guess he just has a lot of just expendable
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: income to be that guy.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: You know, that's the other thing. Like, where I want
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: to be humble about putting movies out there, people's attention
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: are elsewhere is elsewhere now it's quick yeah and you
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: gotta convince someone to see a complete unknown on Christmas
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: day and take the $ 15 or $ 20 whatever the fuck
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: it is now and instead of watching you know Mr.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Beast in the Arctic Well, Mr.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Beast has a show actually that comes out right before that,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: like a week before, but he was just, we were
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: just talking about it the other day. And it's interesting, yeah.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: And it's an interesting show, totally different though. But one
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: thing that's great about your movie is that, first of all,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: you just get, you also just, in addition to whatever's
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: going on with the movie, you get to hear like
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: great music.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great music, great, great music.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: It's great music. You get to remember, like, Woody Guthrie.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Who played Woody Guthrie in it? Scoot McNary. He's amazing. Yeah.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: He's amazing. I didn't get— Pull up a picture of him,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Scoot McNary. Yeah, Scoot McNary. Get a look at him
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: before something happens to him. Yeah, and he doesn't have
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: a line in the movie. Oh, God. He doesn't have
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: a line because he's so sick. Because he's so sick.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: That was pretty awesome.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Bernie Sanders on, and he was saying
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: that— he said Pete Seeger was one of his favorite musicians.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Scoot McNary could play Bernie Sanders in a biopic. Oh,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: he could. Right? Yeah. Totally could.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Dude, you could play Ronald Reagan's son, Ricky Reagan.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Or whatever. Is that a real guy? Is that a
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: real guy? Probably, dude. Bernie hasn't aged. Nah, Bernie still
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: looks the same. He's the best, dude. He's looked the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: same in the last... Yeah. He's like a real folk hero.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: That's a great point. Yeah, Bernie is.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: He is a folk hero.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's folk music.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you also forget about, like, what... Yeah, I mean,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: that's another thing about the movie. You see the challenge
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: of Bob Dylan, like, take on, like, music and culture.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: There's this whole other cultural thing that's kind of happening
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: in the background, like on the television and the news
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: during the movie.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: It was a crazy time. It was a cool piece
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: of life. It was a cool piece of life. The
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: 60s were a cool time.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: When you get out of it all and it's done.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: I was beat on this one. Were you?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What does that really look like, a break? Do
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: you go to a beach?
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: No. Another misconception about movies, as opposed to the academic year,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: it kind of winds down. You're never winding down in
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: a movie. You're doing 14-hour days and you go off
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: a cliff. Then it's done. you know, in other words,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: you don't, you don't, you don't relax towards the, towards
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: the end. Like it's, you know, we were doing a
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: very important scene and it was done forever, you know? And, uh, yeah,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: I guess I relaxed a little bit. I went on vacation,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: but I was beat. I've been working, I was working
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: on this for five years. This was like, um, this
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: was like, this was as important to me as you
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: going to the parking lot and spying on the, on the,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: on the swim team of Lipscomb College. Nothing to see here. Exactly.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I'm just recruiting guys. Recruiting production assistants.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: But, um, Do you think you would have done it
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: more justice five years earlier?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. Also because I had the experience in
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: my life where I would do interviews and, you know,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: it's a scary time to come up with the internet
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: and stuff. You know, you want to get it right.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: And Bob Dylan, his early press conferences, he was confrontational.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: He was basically a dick. And I thought there was
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: something really inspiring about that. Not that I ever wanted
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: to be like that, but I just thought it was
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: so different than how people are now. Yeah.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Right, you're just automatically cordial.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: You just assume. Well, you've got to be, man. A,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not a cordial guy. But B, God forbid. You know,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: you don't want to be. Anyway, so, but these early
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: press conferences, you know, if you're tremendously bored and not
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: watching Mr. B stuff, watch the early Bob Dylan San
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Francisco press conferences. You know, and I just thought, so anyway,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: five years working on it, I got a better sense
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: on the other side of it. Oh, this is why
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: he would have carried himself like that. You know, he
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: had some wherewithal I didn't have in his early 20s
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: where somebody said, how do you do it? He goes, basically,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to tell anyone. You know, me, maybe
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: because whatever, the acting bone. Somebody says, how do you
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: do it? And you're so desperate for that pat on
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: your back. And you go, this is how I did it.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: I just wonder, yeah, and you get more experience that
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: you can put into something. Like you were saying earlier
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: about acting, like you can keep doing it for.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: A long time, you know? Exactly.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: You know, can we hear any, Bob, is that a
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: weird thing.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: To ask you, dude? Is that lame? Like live right now?
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: I'll try it.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: Go for it. Hold on.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Let me try it one more time.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Hey, who is there? Hold on. I got to give it.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: Get into it, man. Get into it. Hey, who's at
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: the door? That's not it, dude. That's horrible. That was
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: pretty good. You got the nasality down. You got the nasality.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Don't make up a word. You're verbifying things, and that's
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: what Bob Dylan did. Yeah, he just made shit up.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: That was good, man. He verified things, didn't he? I
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: don't think, I'm trying to think who your music biopic
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: would be still. It might have to be. What about
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Chet Baker? I would do Chet Baker. Chet Baker or.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: Chet Hanks even. Dude, you should do that Chet Hanks biopic, dude.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: That would be unbelievable. That's a glitch in the system. Yeah,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: it's a glitch. Everything is.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everything's a glitch, dude. Jon Bon Jovi, it could
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: be anybody. Chet has a new country album that's going
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: to come out this year, too, I think.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: Dude, you've got to play Chet. Also, it would be
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: a great excuse to get shredded. I would just do
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: it for the head. Just do it for that. They'll
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: set you up with the best trainers. You'll get the HGH.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: I could do it, man.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if there's anything else that we
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: want to ask or anything else that you wanted to say, Timothy?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. No, just thanks for having me on. I'm
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: trying to think. I think we kind of covered a
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: lot of new stuff. I think we covered it all, man. Yeah.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: I got to water my plants, dude. I just got home. Wait,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: you have a place in LA? Yeah, I still have
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: an apartment here. Oh, you do? Is it here?
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Over in Westwood.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: In Westwood?
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: All right, nice.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: I love Westwood. And so, yeah, I get my plants.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: Diddy Reese?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: And I forget, yeah, I go over there sometimes. I
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: go walk over there and sometimes I would go for
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: that and I would just end up getting a bunch
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: of vapes and just sitting over in my car. But, um, I, uh, yeah,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: I would get, I just, sometimes I forget to wash
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: my plant. I forget to water my plants, you know?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: And then I get home and it's been like a
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: month or something.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Your place is ready to be wifified, man. I know.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: And I always water them. I'll be like, your mother,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: your mother left us.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: I'll yell shit like that.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: I'll be like, your mother left. To who? To the plants.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: I'll just make, I'll like blame it on their like
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: imaginary mother or whatever.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: I'll be like, we would have been fine. She left.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: and I'm just pouring water on them. Their punishment is
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: the water?
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: No, the water is their, I'm giving them the water,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: but it would have been watered every day if their
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: mother had left us.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, if their mother had left us. Oh, so you're
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: bringing out the resentment on the plants. She left us. Anyway,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: this is getting old. Who's the mother, Poison Ivy? It's
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: just a fictional woman. It's a fictional woman. Yeah. I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: feel like the next time we talk, if you have
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: me back on, I feel like you're going to be
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: a year and a half into a beautiful marriage, and
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: a recent father, and, and, You will have a Subaru.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Ooh.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: But I'll take it. You know what?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: If the family comes with that and that's what it takes,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: I'll do it.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: All right. You know? I'll do that.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate it, Timothy Chalamet. Thanks for all the
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: neat acting, man. Thanks for the movie about the young
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: man struggling with drugs. Thanks for the movie about Bob Dylan.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: And just thanks for sharing what it takes, the commitment
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: that it does take. Because I do feel that from you.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: I do feel the commitment that it really takes if
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: you really want to take this opportunity and make the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: most of it in your life, you know?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Like you're doing. I see you doing. You know,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: so you just got to go hard. Amen, brother.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Christmas Day, the movie comes out. You can go watch
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: it in the theaters with your family over the holidays.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: Perfect. Perfect family movie. Will it be in theaters?
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: It'll be in theaters on Christmas Day. A complete unknown.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: Super proud of this, man. You should be, man. Congratulations, brother.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Thanks for letting me talk about it, bro.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yep.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: That was fun, man. Man, thank you, man. You bet.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, that wasn't as ground as I'm sorry. Yeah!
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: That's front side. Now I'm just floating on the breeze
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: share this peace of mind I found I can feel
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: it in my bones