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Jags Drive Time: Monday, August 9 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullivtell with John Oshanan,
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Speaker 1: Brian sex Sex Jacks Drive Time and starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Drive Time Monday morning, brought to you
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Speaker 1: by car Shield, Ashton Sullivan, John Osan and Brian Sexton.
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Speaker 1: Here with you. You are watching some highlights from yesterday's
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Speaker 1: scrimmage inside the stadium first time in t I a
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Speaker 1: bay shielded a very long time and fifteen thousand fans
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Speaker 1: showed up. Now. Saturday was a legit scrimmage. It was
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Speaker 1: the most intense practice we've seen of training camp, whereas
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Speaker 1: yesterday was more so game management. But there were still
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Speaker 1: tons of highlights to talk about. We're gonna talk about
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Speaker 1: him this morning, all right, John. I assume out of
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Speaker 1: fifteen thousand people, fourteen thousand, nine nine nine came to
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Speaker 1: see Forever one in some capacity, and I think they
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Speaker 1: saw that. So uh, you know, I was entertained this weekend.
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Speaker 1: It's not easily entertained. Was hot. It was hot yesterday,
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Speaker 1: and the more that erman Meyer kept the team out there,
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Speaker 1: the more I thought he's not missing the chance to
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Speaker 1: get these guys ready to go through the same or
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Speaker 1: not for September nine, when the Broncos were in town,
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Speaker 1: taking advantage of every rep he can get in this
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Speaker 1: sweltering heat. Yes, I was none too please with now
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Speaker 1: I I was. I was in an air conditioned booth,
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Speaker 1: but the sun was beating in. But I feel terrible
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Speaker 1: for you. I felt what it must be like to
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Speaker 1: be you for once. But that I was cool and
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it happy, I enjoyed it nice. It was
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Speaker 1: really hot, and I was not well. You guys don't
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Speaker 1: understand when you have to put makeup on and then
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Speaker 1: it's what it's. It's just miserable and you don't know
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Speaker 1: what to do. You understand you can't you can't go
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Speaker 1: on practice without the makeup because then you don't look good.
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Speaker 1: It's this whole thing. Welcome to my life. That it's that,
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Speaker 1: How do you do you want to do? You want
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Speaker 1: to look? What? Do you want to feel? Good? Right? Right?
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Speaker 1: So I put the visor on. You know you're gonna
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Speaker 1: be in that stadium on a September Sunday afternoon, worry
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Speaker 1: about how you feel? Indeed? All right, so here we go.
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Speaker 1: Big things. Big thing one is that throw. It was
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Speaker 1: the highlights of the scrimmage. Is the throw that everyone
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Speaker 1: is talking about Trevor Lawrence to the Kwan tread Bill,
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Speaker 1: who has been lights out so far in training camp.
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Speaker 1: And honestly, Trevor Lawrence has had a highlight like this
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Speaker 1: every day, but I will go as far as say
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Speaker 1: this was his best throw of training camp. Honestly reminded
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Speaker 1: me a lot of that throw that he ended Clemson
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Speaker 1: Pro Day with where you thought, oh, you're never gonna
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Speaker 1: see that again. That will never happen in real life,
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Speaker 1: and it definitely did. Head coach Urban Meyer, though, is
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Speaker 1: talking all about the guy who caught that ball. Quantract Bill,
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Speaker 1: What was this guy doing last week? He was at home?
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Speaker 1: Next time. I always playing for the Jaguars, so I
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Speaker 1: think I admire guys like out and they've been really good.
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Speaker 1: Tread Will came in and I'll tell you he's in
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Speaker 1: the hunt for a spot. Big thing too, is Joe
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Speaker 1: wasn't kidding at his defensive cordator Joe Colin, of course,
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Speaker 1: and we asked him what is this defense going to
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Speaker 1: look like? He didn't give us many details, but he
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Speaker 1: did say it's going to be aggressive, and that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what we saw yesterday. Well, I think you know, as
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Speaker 1: I said last week, you know in our in our scheme,
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Speaker 1: will blitz anybody anywhere from anywhere on the field. A
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Speaker 1: corner can come, safety can come, and nickel. But yes,
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Speaker 1: our linebacker is gonna be asked to blitz. And finally,
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Speaker 1: big thing three is young guns. Travis y tn Tyson, Campbell,
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Speaker 1: Luke Farrell, all of them. We're making plays yes day
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Speaker 1: in front of all of those fans. But number six
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Speaker 1: teams shined and he has some advice for those young guys.
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Speaker 1: I'll feel good. You know, those things you gotta learn,
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Speaker 1: and everyone's better and faster. But the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: it's still football. You know, we got really good players.
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Speaker 1: It's like a really good player is on defense, and
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Speaker 1: that's just find it. Find your players and at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, not making it bigger than it is,
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Speaker 1: still the same game. All right, Let's go back to
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Speaker 1: the big thing one that throw. Everyone knows the throw
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Speaker 1: we're talking about. We just go ahead and release the
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Speaker 1: depth chart right now. I mean, there's not another quarterback
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Speaker 1: who was here yesterday who makes that throw. And I struggled.
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Speaker 1: I was trying to think of how many times I've
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Speaker 1: seen that throw um and I've seen it through the years,
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Speaker 1: but it reminded me of if you were called the
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Speaker 1: trip to Denver. Uh. The game was tighter than it
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Speaker 1: should have been in John Elway rolled right and through
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Speaker 1: that exact same past to Anthony Miller for a touch
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Speaker 1: And I've never forgotten because then the game blew wide
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Speaker 1: open and I had to go back to that John
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Speaker 1: Elway throw to remember that that special of an arm.
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Speaker 1: That was a big time throw. No one else can
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Speaker 1: do it. He's the guy. Yeah. Always, Slynn would make
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Speaker 1: throws that the defense didn't defend because most quarterbacks don't
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Speaker 1: make them, and and that was that sort of throw.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that that throw yesterday was that, but
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Speaker 1: it showed he's capable of that. And it's like Ashlyn
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Speaker 1: said one of the intros, he's done that, with the
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Speaker 1: exception of maybe last Monday when they were first going
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Speaker 1: into contact and maybe Tuesday, he's done that at least
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Speaker 1: once a practice where you said, okay, that's why he's
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Speaker 1: number one overall. So there was also a throw where
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Speaker 1: he threatened a touchdown pass. I forget was that Tyler
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Speaker 1: Davis it was or Elise It was a tight end.
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Speaker 1: It was down in the south end zone, where again
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Speaker 1: he recognized it, immediately stepped up and delivered the ball
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Speaker 1: right on the spot. And you thought, again, I haven't
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Speaker 1: seen a Draguars quarterback do that. It's not perfection yet,
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Speaker 1: but we're two weeks into this thing. What you're seeing
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Speaker 1: are the flashes of that's special. That's what most quarterbacks can't.
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Speaker 1: You know, there are five tenant league you can do it.
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Speaker 1: I has never had one, but you're seeing the flashes of, Okay,
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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback can make the difference of maybe he
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Speaker 1: makes the difference as seven points a game, one touchdown
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Speaker 1: a game that you you get because he's special. When
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Speaker 1: most games to lead you're decided by seven points. So
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Speaker 1: that's why they make a difference. That's why he'll make
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Speaker 1: a difference. Yeah, and you look at it's still noted
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Speaker 1: as a quarterback competition and gardnerment shoes getting equal reps.
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Speaker 1: And my headline this morning left we recall from that, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: nothing else. I was gonna say, well he's the start today.
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Speaker 1: That's not the case. We have not heard that news.
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Speaker 1: So now you're kind of asking, all right, well, when's
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Speaker 1: it gonna beat when we're gonna do this it'll be
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Speaker 1: when it'll be say love, Say love. It'll be fine,
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Speaker 1: It'll be fine. But here's this role for the touchdown. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and honestly I get that Ashlyn wants to have the
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Speaker 1: payoff on her. I want my answer and her big thing,
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Speaker 1: the big picture. Rest easy, let the joy go over
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Speaker 1: your body. Your big kids going to be for real. Heyes,
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Speaker 1: let's talk to defense. We're still trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: what it's going to look like. But I thought yesterday
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Speaker 1: you finally saw some flashes of who maybe more so
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Speaker 1: playmakers will be defense. Well, so you know my headline
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Speaker 1: from last week's show, you know that tomorrow's headlines today.
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Speaker 1: Thing that we did was, you know, the young guys
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Speaker 1: were going to show that they're ready to start competing
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Speaker 1: for jobs here. And I had watched Tyson Campbell come
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Speaker 1: on last week. You know, the first week of practice,
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Speaker 1: I didn't see thirty two do anything that made me
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Speaker 1: say oh, and then last week goes, oh wow, look
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Speaker 1: at that. I mean consistently he was in position to
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Speaker 1: make plays, and then he made a couple of them
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Speaker 1: yesterday where you saw his range, his length, his instincts. Um,
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Speaker 1: he really showed me something excited me with what I
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Speaker 1: think he's capable of doing. You know, they've been playing
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Speaker 1: emotionally inside. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get
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Speaker 1: more looks outside based on the way that he ran yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyers interesting to listen to, uh, because he obviously
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Speaker 1: knows his football at incredibly high level. But when he
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Speaker 1: talks about players, he'll give you insights very sixcinctly about
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Speaker 1: why they like guys and over and over game at
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Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell, he talks about he has speed. He doesn't
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Speaker 1: panic when the ball is in the air because he
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Speaker 1: has speed and make up distance on the ball when
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Speaker 1: it's in the air. Uh. They love this guy's athleticism.
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Speaker 1: And yesterday talking about Tyson Campbell, he said, we're glad
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Speaker 1: we have them. Well that translates into I've seen a
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Speaker 1: lot out of this kid, and he's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: football player for us. So uh, so far, so good.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine being a high school quarterback playing American
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Speaker 1: heritage high down in South Florida when they had him
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Speaker 1: in Patrick's Tanya the second Alabama Georgia you know, first
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Speaker 1: round pick, first pick of the second round. I mean
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Speaker 1: it's but he has rare physical traits, which is what
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Speaker 1: they're looking for in these guys. You know, the length
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Speaker 1: and the speed and the feet and all of those things.
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Speaker 1: And he just he popped off the screen yesterday. Um,
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Speaker 1: and I know that that's young guns, and we were
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Speaker 1: gonna that's the third big thing. But when I watched
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Speaker 1: the defense, I saw him and Caleb on Chason yesterday
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Speaker 1: and Ray Shawn Jenkins flashed his normal self. It's terrific. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we'll talk much more about those young guns when we
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Speaker 1: It is a player day off after the Jaguars practice
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Speaker 1: for three days over the weekend just to be back
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Speaker 1: on the practice field tomorrow to get ready for first
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Speaker 1: preseason game, Saturday game, game game, finally a game. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And you know, Bucky was in and did the broadcast
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Speaker 1: with us yesterday and he had been in Cleveland for
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Speaker 1: the the NFL Network, you know, when you had Baldinger
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Speaker 1: out here. He was in Cleveland and he said they
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Speaker 1: looked apart. Now, I mean, he's not a big fan
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Speaker 1: of the quarterback, um, but he said that the size
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Speaker 1: on their offensive line there tight ends the receivers. Their
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Speaker 1: defensive line, as you know, is stacked. Um. So even
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Speaker 1: though you're not going to see every one all evening,
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Speaker 1: he said, you're gonna be able to see some matchups.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to test a putties in Campbell
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Speaker 1: out there right and run him against those wide receivers,
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Speaker 1: you know, but Jervis Landry on the other side. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be a nice test. So you're getting
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Speaker 1: a team right out of the gate that doesn't just
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Speaker 1: have playoff expectations. They want to challenge Kansas City and
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Speaker 1: see if they can win the a f C this year. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting. Head coach Urban Meyer
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Speaker 1: yesterday was talking about how obviously he's never done this
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Speaker 1: before with a preseason game. He's gonna have a long
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Speaker 1: meeting today to decide how they're going to run it.
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Speaker 1: But it seems like it's not going to be the
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Speaker 1: conventional Okay, starters have this number of series. He wants
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Speaker 1: to see some things, and I don't think that number
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Speaker 1: of series is gonna matter too much to him. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's hard to know what conventional is going to be
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Speaker 1: this year because you're without that fourth game anyway, So
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that there's going to be over the
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Speaker 1: course of the league. I'm not sure there's a standard
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Speaker 1: best practices yet for a three game preseason. I do
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Speaker 1: think you'll see more frontline guys the Jaguars for a
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Speaker 1: little longer because of what Ashland referenced in the first
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Speaker 1: couple of games. And I expect that third game still
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Speaker 1: to be the closest thing to address rehearsal. Uh, But
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Speaker 1: at some point you gotta get guys on the field
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Speaker 1: that you have to evaluate. So I'm you know, maybe
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Speaker 1: I'm alone, And I I thought four preseason games were key.
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be interesting to see how
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Speaker 1: they break it down. But I do think more frontline
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Speaker 1: Jaguars guys will play on on Week one, then you
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Speaker 1: will see in the future. And I think it's interesting
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Speaker 1: to note that they will also put guys in situations
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Speaker 1: based on matchups. Right, So you might pull you on
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Speaker 1: Taylor if what they have started to do and put
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Speaker 1: Walker a little at right tackle is any indication because
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Speaker 1: you'd like to see him line up against uh Garrett Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, or j Davin Clowney, who's there now. You
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Speaker 1: might want to see him get a couple of reps
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Speaker 1: against these guys, be ready to handle it. Right. You
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Speaker 1: might put a guy back in in the second quarter
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Speaker 1: because of a matchup. You want to see a receiver
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Speaker 1: against a corner um. I think anything that's conventional that
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Speaker 1: we've been accustomed to is on the table. I have
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Speaker 1: a theory that Javion Clowney actually plays for US seventeen
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Speaker 1: different NFL teams and they always play the Jaguars five
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Speaker 1: times a year. You never get rid of that. I'm
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Speaker 1: convinced that's true Google Houston, Tennessee. He just likes playing
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. It's his thing Cleveland. Yeah, alright, Sime for
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Speaker 1: Bernie or I'm sorry, Hot takes well. I think prevailing
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Speaker 1: wisdom is that when you have a quarterback, especially one,
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Speaker 1: I think that showing us as good as he is
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Speaker 1: capable of being taking number one. Overall, he's got all
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Speaker 1: the momentum to be the offensive rookie of the year
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and he's probably the favorite if they
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Speaker 1: do such things in Las Vegas. But but you're gonna
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Speaker 1: say hold on, they're big fellow. I am going to
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Speaker 1: say hold on there, big fellow, because if I recall
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, who went into the Hall of Fame yesterday,
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Speaker 1: whose storied career you helped chronicle through eight interceptions his
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Speaker 1: rookie season, Travis C. T N is not going to
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Speaker 1: throw interceptions, right, Travis E. TN is just gonna make plays,
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Speaker 1: And unless he fumbles the ball sixteen times, at which
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Speaker 1: when he wouldn't be on the field anyway. He's a guy.
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Speaker 1: There was a play in particular yesterday where he got
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Speaker 1: on the hip of the guard and let the guard
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Speaker 1: go in front of him, and he crossed his hips
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Speaker 1: over and went back the other direction. You know, has
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Speaker 1: had I run here, and he's got such explosiveness, not
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Speaker 1: just speed, but suddenness, change of direction, quickness. He is
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Speaker 1: going to be a killer matchup for linebackers and safeties
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Speaker 1: because he just has something special and it's nothing that
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Speaker 1: you can you can put in a heighth way you know,
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Speaker 1: strength column. But by the way, he did eighteen reps
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Speaker 1: of at the combine, so he's got plenty of strength.
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Speaker 1: He isn't the biggest in terms of looking like a
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Speaker 1: oh like Carlos Hide looks right, um, but boy, he
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Speaker 1: does things that running backs cant and I think before
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Speaker 1: it's all said and done, you're gonna see his name
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Speaker 1: in the running for Offensive Rookie of the Year. It's interesting, Um,
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Speaker 1: the comparison is not quite there because Marshall Falk was
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Speaker 1: a veteran the time Peyton got there. But Marshall Falk
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Speaker 1: was in the backfield and Peyton man he first got
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Speaker 1: to the Colts and he relied on him tremendously the
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Speaker 1: first year. Travis c. T n feels to me like
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Speaker 1: he could be this generation, you know, a Marshall Falk
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Speaker 1: type with being able to run and receive. It's funny
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Speaker 1: because when Bucky and I were talking on the broadcast yesterday.
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Speaker 1: He said he came in thinking that the Alvin Kamara
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Speaker 1: um comparison, which we'd all heard about, it wasn't accurate
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Speaker 1: because Camara was so good as a receiver, so good
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Speaker 1: lining up anywhere across the formation. And then they moved
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Speaker 1: him around yesterday and he made some plays. He said,
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Speaker 1: I might be wrong on that that might be a
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Speaker 1: better comparison than I thought. Well, he just had to
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Speaker 1: prove it. I mean that when he was trapping, You're like,
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Speaker 1: all right, come on, like pump the brakes. But now
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Speaker 1: every single day he's making plays, right, all right, it
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Speaker 1: might be closer than we thought her. John, what you
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Speaker 1: got for us? Well, I'm not sure how hot this is.
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Speaker 1: That I wish it was hotter. Uh, but maybe just
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Speaker 1: maybe the lights are going on for Caleb and Jason.
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Speaker 1: And when I say that, I almost feel bad saying it,
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Speaker 1: because it's not like the lights weren't on last year.
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Speaker 1: He was a rookie pass rusher and those guys having
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Speaker 1: huge seasons are rare, So I'm not one of these
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Speaker 1: people who all off season has been down on Calealine Jayson.
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Speaker 1: But early in camp he had the day where Walker
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Speaker 1: a little beat him on multiple reps, and there was
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Speaker 1: a thought of, Okay, is this just not gonna work well.
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Speaker 1: In the last couple of days, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: you're seeing speed rush, You're seeing sacks. He had a
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Speaker 1: play on Saturday where he he defends to pass down
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Speaker 1: field and in the very next rep he got a
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Speaker 1: pressure back. Now it still doesn't look to me like
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Speaker 1: he is honed all the skills and is polished yet.
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Speaker 1: But urban Meyer after practice yesterday said he he talked
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Speaker 1: about gaining respect for him. He talked about having a
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Speaker 1: good camp. It feels like that's coming around. And uh boy,
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Speaker 1: if he and Josh Allen and are as good as
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Speaker 1: their draft status, how that changes them rapidly defensively, If
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Speaker 1: Calevan is good and Josh is good, now of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: you've got Jack good, Calevan good, Alan Good, Olten. You've
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Speaker 1: got a lot of good players on defensive, which I
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Speaker 1: didn't feel like you had last year. So you know
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Speaker 1: that premium pick is supposed to be special. People haven't counted.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that people are thinking of calebon is
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Speaker 1: special right now going in the season. Maybe the lights
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Speaker 1: coming on for him. You know, I got the sense
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Speaker 1: coming into training camp that the coaching staff wanted to
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Speaker 1: see more from him than they saw on O. T
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Speaker 1: A S. That they didn't see the qualities that made
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Speaker 1: him a first round pick in O. T A S.
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Speaker 1: And then the last couple of days of practice kind
18:44
Speaker 1: of like the end of last you know, he was
18:47
Speaker 1: he was his arrow was pointing up at the end
18:49
Speaker 1: of last season, and the last couple of days the
18:51
Speaker 1: arrow is pointing up as well. The most impressive play
18:53
Speaker 1: I thought that he had yesterday was down the sideline
18:56
Speaker 1: in coverage because he was running with a much smaller guy.
18:59
Speaker 1: Was Lavisky he was running with He was running the
19:02
Speaker 1: one from Saturday. Yeah, he wasn't running with Luke Farrell,
19:04
Speaker 1: you know. I mean he was running with a guy
19:06
Speaker 1: who was much quicker than he would think to be,
19:09
Speaker 1: and he was right down the field with him. And honestly,
19:11
Speaker 1: you're not used to sing And I remember Saturday's practice
19:13
Speaker 1: when John the place talking about you look down the field,
19:15
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, that's kill the one right, he's light
19:18
Speaker 1: on there. What's going on? Well? And it's special athletics
19:21
Speaker 1: is And you wonder if maybe the coaches are also
19:25
Speaker 1: figuring out because he's a different looking guy and he's
19:28
Speaker 1: not Josh Allen in terms of just the physical specimen,
19:31
Speaker 1: and you think, wow, this guy is put on this
19:33
Speaker 1: earth to rush the pastor so he's not that. So
19:36
Speaker 1: you wonder if maybe the coaches are figuring out, Okay,
19:38
Speaker 1: here's how we can use this guy. And as Urban says,
19:42
Speaker 1: a two B play fast, he's certainly that guy well
19:45
Speaker 1: in in this particular scheme with that outside backer you know,
19:48
Speaker 1: slash pass rusher role, they can do so many more
19:50
Speaker 1: different things than in the fourth three scheme. So that's
19:53
Speaker 1: allowing them to tailor it to his school. You're seeing
19:55
Speaker 1: them get pretty creative with him like we've never seen before.
19:57
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna go tight ends. That's what everyone's
19:59
Speaker 1: talking about, coming up here with the rare Ben Ellipson
20:02
Speaker 1: hot take. Yeah he didn't get that many hot tap does,
20:05
Speaker 1: but he's getting one today. Ben Ellepson is going to
20:09
Speaker 1: lead the tight ends this season in targets. What do
20:13
Speaker 1: you think of that? You know, like, let me explain
20:17
Speaker 1: why I think you may be right. I wasn't expecting that.
20:21
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have to argue this. All right,
20:22
Speaker 1: So we're starting to see during training camp. We're starting
20:24
Speaker 1: to see those connections, those relationships. Quarterbacks have their favorite targets,
20:29
Speaker 1: and I take notes every training camp practice. I look
20:32
Speaker 1: at them. At the end of the day. Ben Ellison's
20:34
Speaker 1: name is on there three or four times a problem.
20:37
Speaker 1: You're in fact not just an opinion. Indeed, like every
20:41
Speaker 1: good journalist does. Ben Ellepson, I think he sees this
20:44
Speaker 1: opportunity that it's not it's everyone's for the taking, this
20:48
Speaker 1: tight end number one, you will say, I mean it's
20:50
Speaker 1: James O'Shaughnessy, it's Luke Ferrell. Why not ben Ellepson? And
20:54
Speaker 1: I think that he is leading training camp so far
20:56
Speaker 1: in targets and looking pretty good. I wrote in one
20:59
Speaker 1: of my camp servations last week that this is a
21:02
Speaker 1: group that is pretty similar. I mean, none is going
21:05
Speaker 1: to move that far ahead of the other. And they're
21:07
Speaker 1: solid guys, right, They're decent blockers, they're decent route runners,
21:12
Speaker 1: they're good with their hands. There's no superstar in there.
21:14
Speaker 1: I'm gonna disagree with you. I think James O'Shaughnessy is
21:16
Speaker 1: quickly proving that he's that subtle little guy that gets open.
21:20
Speaker 1: I think he might become because of his veteran presence
21:22
Speaker 1: because he was here last year. Um, but I get
21:24
Speaker 1: your point that Ellison is as close as any of
21:27
Speaker 1: them to being the guy. Ellison last year kept being
21:33
Speaker 1: on the team because he was not drafted and he
21:37
Speaker 1: wasn't a guy that you had heard of coming in.
21:39
Speaker 1: He kept being on the team, and he came hearing
21:40
Speaker 1: from the coaches last year. There wasn't really a question
21:43
Speaker 1: that he was on the team. I mean he was.
21:45
Speaker 1: Some rookies are barely in the three and they might
21:47
Speaker 1: be the guy to get cut the next week. They
21:49
Speaker 1: liked him. Uh, my understanding is this group likes him
21:52
Speaker 1: a lot. Uh. Tight ends often come from very humble beginnings. Uh.
22:00
Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of lean with Ashland. I
22:02
Speaker 1: kind of think he might wind up being the guy.
22:04
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be very close, no matter what.
22:06
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's gonna but I think he's much
22:11
Speaker 1: more in that conversation than most people think. Yeah, and
22:13
Speaker 1: then it makes you really curious. Okay, then what do
22:15
Speaker 1: they do with these tight ends and how many do
22:17
Speaker 1: they keep? Because at the beginning of training camp, I
22:19
Speaker 1: wasn't sold that, honestly, Ellipson was going to make the team.
22:22
Speaker 1: And now I'm thinking, of course he makes the team
22:24
Speaker 1: and then what, Yeah, it feels to me like ellefson O'Shaughnessy, uh,
22:32
Speaker 1: Farrell Man hurts and Farrell yeah, and then Tyler Davis
22:35
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, that was a draft pick and
22:38
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting. It'll shake out the way
22:40
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22:43
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Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis Colts and this is this is really
25:28
Speaker 1: just odd how this happened. Quarterback Carson Wentz has an
25:32
Speaker 1: extra bone in his foot, needs to get surgery to
25:36
Speaker 1: remove it. Okay, that's gonna happen. Now you have questions
25:38
Speaker 1: of when he returns a couple of days later. Star
25:41
Speaker 1: offensive lineman Quentin Nelson says, oh, I have the same thing, correct,
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Speaker 1: am I rights basically? And how does that happen? It
25:52
Speaker 1: is odd. It's reekally odd that maybe the two most
25:55
Speaker 1: important players entertain without a doubt. So Nelson is unbood. Yeah,
26:01
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. Their line is not even
26:03
Speaker 1: close to being the same about him. I think they're good. Uh,
26:07
Speaker 1: people disagree with me and I people think they'll go
26:09
Speaker 1: in the tank because of this. I think they're good anyway.
26:12
Speaker 1: But I think they have a really good roster. I
26:14
Speaker 1: think I think they're really well coach. I think they're
26:16
Speaker 1: still dangerous without Wentz, but you know, they were certainly
26:20
Speaker 1: counting on him to be special. If they have to
26:23
Speaker 1: rely on Jacoby Brissette kind of quarterback, then they are
26:26
Speaker 1: what they were two years ago, which is eight and eight. Um,
26:30
Speaker 1: But I think they'll get Wentz back. Um. Yeah, it
26:33
Speaker 1: sounds like it's still the back regular season, well or
26:36
Speaker 1: shortly after the regulation begins. They won't miss too much time.
26:39
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. The roster is really good. I mean,
26:41
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard got a hundred million dollar contract because he's
26:44
Speaker 1: really freaking good, and Buckner upfront made a massive difference.
26:48
Speaker 1: They're expecting Quitty pay their first round pick from Michigan
26:52
Speaker 1: to be a big time player. They're a really talented roster,
26:56
Speaker 1: and they felt they were a quarterback away from getting
27:00
Speaker 1: past the Buffaloes of the world last year and advancing
27:03
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. So they go and they and they
27:05
Speaker 1: gamble on Wentz. So there's still a quarterback away that
27:09
Speaker 1: that's it. If the quarterback comes back, they'll be fine. Yeah.
27:13
Speaker 1: And everyone's saying, oh, well, Nick Foles, go get them,
27:16
Speaker 1: go get them, and it doesn't seem like that's happening.
27:18
Speaker 1: Go get him. That would be great. I think he's
27:20
Speaker 1: the man, Go get him. Sure they're listening, but I
27:24
Speaker 1: saw some Jaguars fans are like, oh my gosh, this
27:26
Speaker 1: is great. You mean this means the Jaguars are the favorite.
27:28
Speaker 1: The Colts sixteen year old said that to me yesterday, exactly,
27:32
Speaker 1: take a look at their roster and see and by
27:35
Speaker 1: the way, he goes, we're gonna win the division. And
27:36
Speaker 1: I said, just to hold on, You've got to take
27:38
Speaker 1: a look at their roster and see what they've got.
27:40
Speaker 1: You got to look at the whole roster of the
27:42
Speaker 1: Titans and the Colts, and they're more advanced still than
27:45
Speaker 1: this roster is. Even though this roster is exciting, those
27:49
Speaker 1: two rosters are filled with veteran players who have done
27:51
Speaker 1: it on Sundays before. And that's why those two teams
27:54
Speaker 1: will stay one and to in the division. I need
27:58
Speaker 1: to win a couple of games, That's what I mean.
28:00
Speaker 1: I mean, they they've done. Yeah, so I because I'm
28:03
Speaker 1: talking about the South, I know all Jaguars fans inherently
28:07
Speaker 1: hate the Titans, and I get it, uh. And people
28:10
Speaker 1: always want to downgrade the Titans because they don't look
28:15
Speaker 1: I guess because of Tanny Hill. You know, there's a disrelief,
28:20
Speaker 1: uh that I get. I think causes to me. The
28:23
Speaker 1: Titans know how to play, they know what they are,
28:26
Speaker 1: and they know what they want to do. A team
28:31
Speaker 1: like that is very dangerous until you beat them because
28:34
Speaker 1: they're usually not going to give things away, either either
28:36
Speaker 1: over the course of the season or over the course
28:38
Speaker 1: of the game. Stop Derrick Henry and you know exactly
28:42
Speaker 1: what they want to do, and they've done it to
28:44
Speaker 1: this team over and over and over. They have some
28:46
Speaker 1: scary times. The culture a very well coached team as well,
28:50
Speaker 1: and I think you have to take that into consideration.
28:51
Speaker 1: I don't think just because those two guys are gone
28:53
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, you can put in hall
28:55
Speaker 1: if they're if they're gone to maximum, if they don't
28:57
Speaker 1: come back until mid season, right, if they're out twelve weeks, oh,
29:00
Speaker 1: that changes the complexion completely. But if it's the five
29:03
Speaker 1: week variety, now they'll be fine. Did you just say who? Okay,
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Speaker 1: have drive time for you, though. Have a Thursday, Yes,
31:14
Speaker 1: we do, when we're back on the practice field Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
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Speaker 1: I believe another player day off on Friday, preseason game
31:22
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Here we go. Well you just don't stop,
31:25
Speaker 1: do we? We're in it. Yeah. At someone in the
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Speaker 1: If you're tired, now there's a problem, you're not gonna
31:39
Speaker 1: make it. No, I think there's an energy level in
31:40
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31:42
Speaker 1: as young as this team is, as new as the
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Speaker 1: coaching staff is uh together, Um, you can't deny that
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Speaker 1: the energy level is really high. And I made a
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31:58
Speaker 1: like this team, is that there's no red as you do.
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Speaker 1: There's no stink attached to the fact that they stun
32:03
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32:07
Speaker 1: focused and so energetic. Rarely do you see the coin
32:10
Speaker 1: flip that fast. Yeah, and coach Meyer has expected a
32:13
Speaker 1: lot of this team, and you would think maybe there's
32:15
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32:17
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