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#223 - For Azeroth!: “Dragonflight Alpha Phase 2” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to another episode of for Azeroth.
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  I am joined by my co-host live live.
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  How are you doing today? And how has the World of
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  Warcraft been treating? You?
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  Well, the World of Warcraft classic has been treating me,
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  but the same as been last couple episodes.
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  I have made it to level 63 on my Shaman in preparation for Wrath
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  of the Lich King Classic, which may be coming sooner than We
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  thought it was coming. We're not really going to have a
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  lot of time to get into it today, but good grief that if
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  you were paying attention to wow head or just the internet in
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  general we could be we could be happy having Wrath of the Lich
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  King Classic a lot faster and I am I'm not panicking to get
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  leveled before it comes out but like The Squeeze He's is gonna
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  be there. Well, in live, we've been given
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  a bonus, 50% additional experience.
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  And I know that the classic people were clamoring for that
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  specially if the quote unquote rumor.
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  I'm not sure if you can call it a rumor because there was
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  literally files out and images that said, September 26, yeah,
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  and then they were retracted and so now with that all said and
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  done have the people in classic In their experience bonus.
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  No, we have not. We have not at all.
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  And it's, it's, I'm not going to say it's annoying.
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  That we haven't gotten it over there in classic, even though
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  live has it. It would be nice to have it.
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  Especially for those of us still trying to get, you know what,
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  like, one or multiple characters leveled up.
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  I'm getting my Shaman leveled to actually play with in Wrath of
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  the Lich King. A proper.
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  And then I'm also going to have my druid that is just going to
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  be, like, just sitting at level 70, just getting, you know, cold
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  weather flight so that I can go in and and, and just gather just
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  get herbalism in mind and going on that character so that I can
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  generate materials. But other than that, there's not
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  really much else to do in preparation, other than just
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  making sure that I have the gold for dual specialization.
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  That's it. That's the only other go.
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  Sure. And of course, when they tweeted
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  out that they were giving the people on the modern version,
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  this experience, they also did a tweet saying that they hadn't
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  forgotten about the classic players, so hopefully those
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  players will be getting some thing themselves.
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  But on Modern, there's like a couple things I'd love to do
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  with that mostly level power level through and get the
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  heritage armor for a lot of the different races where I've never
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  Gotten them before at the same time, I don't think I'm going to
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  be doing a lot of alts in dragonflight, and a lot of that
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  is, because of all the news that has been showing up.
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  So, without further Ado, let's dive straight into the news.
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  Because this week, we have reached a new phase of alpha
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  alpha Phase 2. And in this, they have released
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  a new Zone which is the forbidden reach and a forbidden
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  reach, is the drakh they're starting zone.
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  This week they also removed the zone that we had last week which
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  was the Azure span that is no longer available for testing.
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  And if you were to create a character you have two choices,
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  you can create a level 60 template or you can create a
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  level 58 and go through the starting zone.
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  If you are not doing the starting zone, if you're not
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  doing a Drac there, what's available for testing on the
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  alpha right now is really the two new Dungeons.
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  And this is part of their new testing regime or philosophy
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  that we'll get into later. But the developers notes, a
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  throughout the testing period character levels will be scaled
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  when entering into dragonflight dungeons.
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  When this happens, the amount of talent points on that, your
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  character will have available will reflect your original All
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  not your scale bubble. So even though we were being
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  scaled up to level 70 to test these, we only had the talent
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  points for level 60 and therefore they would have been
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  more challenging than if we had all the abilities and stuff that
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  the talents would give us. That said the two dungeons were
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  now therus which is a for Boss dungeon set in the occupied
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  stronghold of the black dragons. And it's filled with the half
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  giant half Elemental Sheridan. He's who honestly, might breathe
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  time playing a little bit of D&D.
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  What are those if REITs that are like half Elemental Jin's?
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  Yeah, something like that. There's, there's like the gyms
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  and then there's which the jinns are like on the elemental plane
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  so that I did. This is definitely a reference
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  to that. Yeah, for sure, that's more.
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  What I was thinking of. That's what the should Jared ins
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  remind me of. But these guys Hazard.
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  Of course, half giant. They're very brutal looking and
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  very like warlike. So they the entire area is
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  filled with Warriors and spellcraft.
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  There's that meld the elements and the four bosses are
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  chargaff. Bane of scales who is a Dragon
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  Hunter, and he will kind of like a survival Hunter.
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  He'll use a spare, but he'll actually pin you down with the
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  spear and the main. The main part of That fight is
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  to take that chain, run him into that chain or have him running
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  to the chain, which will stun him, and then you'll get your
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  damage window. The next boss is Forge, master
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  gorik, who does a bunch of random ground effects that you
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  need to run out of he'll charge people and leave cross sections
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  or start hitting the Anvil and throwing little pools of lava
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  all over the place. Magma Tusk which is a fire
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  Mental elephant, which then gets thrown a jerk, otic potion and
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  mutates the have tentacles think like Deathwing, you know,
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  Madness of Deathwing, except they fed that same stuff to a
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  magma, elephant. And so, it's just like Blair.
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  Anyways, avoid the charge is the most thing.
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  He will also face a particular way and try and do a conal
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  breath. So you want to be kind of close
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  but then side step to avoid the charge.
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  And he fills up the room with pools of magma on heroic that
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  don't go away. The last boss is Warlord, charka
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  and this warlord is, I think actually one of the more boring
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  fights. They the main part of this fight
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  is that eventually she will create a big bubble that will
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  take forever to burn through unless you search through.
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  The ill-gotten treasure that she has around here and find
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  different items that are like magic nullification rods or
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  explosive. Orbs that you'll throw to blow
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  up the shield and then be able to get back to attacking the
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  boss. So in general, I found this was
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  a pretty fun dungeon the heroic version.
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  Of course was interesting as well because even though they
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  didn't initially open up heroic for testing, people were able to
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  find a way to To do that. And then they opened it up to
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  everybody. So heroic and normal was
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  available to testing this week. Both of these are pretty good.
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  This one is kind of like a temple of Seth rallies in
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  architecture meets Blackwing descent very gorgeous.
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  I definitely say. Look at the pictures of this,
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  the Sheridan have literally glowing tribal tattoo.
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  Use that are like, magma blowing out of them.
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  It is something that I wish I wish.
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  I had a better graphics card because my playthroughs
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  basically do not do this Justice compared to, like, what I've
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  seen on some other stuff. But the dungeons a lot of fun.
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  And if you want to see my playthrough of either of these,
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  dungeons, of course, we'll put links through to the bonus role
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  production videos that were based off of my playthrough, but
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  the Other dungeon is Oldham on Legacy of tear and this is the
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  return to Oldham on where you are dealing with a 5 boss
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  dungeon with a bunch of new threats and a little twist on
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  it, think kind of like returned to cares an where it starts
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  relatively the same and then twists off into its own path.
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  So the boss is in here are completely varied.
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  The first boss is actually the Lost.
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  If you remember them, from Heroes of the Storm, complete
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  with the Dragon Boat where they'll all jump up into the
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  Dragon Boat and start trying to bombard you from the sky.
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  That's cool. Yeah, the I mean, the reference
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  to the Lost Vikings was in the original old mine.
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  So that's a carryover directly from there, so that's, that's
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  nice. Yeah, and then the second boss
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  is, bro, Mark, who is just a trog, big boss.
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  And is also kind of Shaman has two different things that are
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  very much oven. One is that if you leave them
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  undisturbed for too long, you will basically bloodlust all of
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  the enemies and he has a bunch of ads that come in.
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  And if they get blood us, they're doing 50% more damage.
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  You're likely to get a wipe. And the other one is that, he'll
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  put down a quaking totem. That will do a huge constant
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  ticking damage, and if you burn that totem down, it will stun
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  him. And all of The Troggs that are
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  added into the fight and they'll take increased damage and lose.
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  Bloodlust effect. So if you do that, best way of
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  going through, it is basically find a totem killed a totem.
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  Use the burned face to kill him off.
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  You'll get back up, wash and repeat as much as you need.
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  Then this is where the path not taken.
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  Last time is now taken, when the dwarves who you trounce before
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  come into the room. After you defeated the boss,
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  they open A New Path for you and you go deeper into the
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  installation which of course is a Titan Installation.
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  So what do we find? One of the Titan Sentinels and
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  this is Sentinel to laundress. And this one is basically one
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  guy in the middle, who will activate different columns on
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  the side that will stand still and shoot Fireballs little, orbs
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  of fire around toward player. So you'll be dodging.
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  These Fireballs that are going around the room trying to beat
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  the boss and a certain interval. He will put a big flame Shield
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  to block off the middle of the room and protect himself.
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  Move the flame Shield off of the little ads, which is why you
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  couldn't kill them before and then do a big beam that will
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  bisect the room and kill anybody, it comes in contact
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  with and then of course with any big beam that bisects, the room
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  it will rotate around the room. So you'll need to Kill Ya.
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  So you'll need to kill all the golems that were activated in
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  the first phase to push him back into phase 1 again.
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  This washes and repeats until you're done.
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  While that beam is active, you're not completely safe
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  because there is a ticking AOE. And at the beginning of the
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  week, this AOE along with be AOE from chromic were so vicious.
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  So powerful, that a lot of groups were wiping to this.
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  In fact, my first run, we didn't get past a, on or rather.
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  Yeah, we didn't get past a on, which is the next, which is the
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  next boss. Now, I realize that I have made
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  a mistake all of the stuff that I was talking to you about here.
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  That's actually a ons abilities because I Stephen launches is
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  the snake guy who I didn't even realize he was a boss at first
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  because he was so under tuned and I hope that they will fix
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  him because it wasn't until I was playing.
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  Literally today that I noticed anybody actually doing any
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  mechanics, so all of that stuff. I was talking about was a on the
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  Sentinels net. That's God, he is big AOE damage
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  really has been fixed, and I'll tell her get into that later.
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  But Sentinel to laundress is actually a snake, like a
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  cephalus, mmm, right? So, the snake, man, that we
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  first saw and BFA, but this one is like Stone.
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  So staying. Yeah, it's the first time that
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  I've seen to Stone version of those guys, but honestly, I
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  didn't realize he was a boss until much later because he, I
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  guess he was grossly under tuned.
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  He will do a big slam that'll knock everybody back and he will
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  also Mark three characters with little circles around them.
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  And eventually they will drop a oh, he's on the ground, little
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  areas on the ground. The tank needs to pull him into
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  those areas to to damage him and stun him.
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  But again, it felt like that. It was so Little that you could
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  just burn him down and just ignore those AOE effects.
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  Yeah, beyond that it seems like a fairly straightforward boss
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  Ember on, I apparently covered out of order with the wrong
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  name. But the last boss is very
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  interesting because when you think you're just about done
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  Chrono Lord dios and Chrono is Medio the whole time.
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  Funny thing you say about time because with a name like Chrono
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  Lord. Yes.
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  He's an infinite. Dragonflight that shows up say
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  no no, no you can't, you can't capture this because it will
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  screw up our plans. And you must fight against the
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  infinite dragon fight again. Completely out of left field.
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  I almost feel bad reporting about it because it is sort of
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  one of those things where it's like, oh wow.
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  What is happening here when I played it, the boss is basically
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  an area of denial fight where he'll keep on filling up
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  sections of the room with sand. So the the tank was sort of kite
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  him around the outside or snake him around the room until I you
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  can eventually just kill the boss.
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  And those are the two dungeons. They were a lot of fun.
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  I like where they've ended up now that the tuning has happened
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  bosses that were underpowered, have now been fixed so that they
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  actually do the mechanics bosses that were way over, powered are
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  now doable and I'm very glad for that old.
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  Aman was the more Out Of Tune version than the version of now
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  that through Alice. And I played this both on normal
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  and heroic and I feel that they're in Pretty good
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  positions. Obviously, I'm waiting for the
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  Mythic versions to come out so I can get like more of a challenge
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  out of all everything, more of a fair challenge because this the
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  street ticking damage of the AOE effects that we're in Oldham
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  own, were not fun. You hear that?
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  Everyone here. That may be saying he needs a
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  challenge that only Mythic can provide, it's not challenging
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  enough blizzard. Come on now, I just mean, like
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  there's there's Clear Spot. Lots for them to build upon the
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  abilities that were a bear. And yeah, there are some fights
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  that on normal. We're so boring.
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  I'm gonna say it. Like, I felt that they were
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  boring because they were just missing too many parts, but I
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  also think that it is a sign that they want to put the right
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  content towards the right players.
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  They don't want to have 20 different things happening in a
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  normal dungeon. Yeah.
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  Right. They don't want to have T5
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  different things. Happen in a heroic dungeons.
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  So people who want to play their normal dungeons, or their heroic
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  Dungeons and find that to be the thing will enjoy it.
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  I'm just looking for the Mythic twist really because something
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  like, let's say, magma tusks, right?
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  Magma test, would do a conal fire would do a charge.
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  And basically every so often would throw like different fires
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  with his tentacles out. A Which players?
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  Yeah, fairly straightforward on normal on heroic.
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  Those technical things. Leave pools.
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  So then now when he's doing the charge, you have some area of
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  denial. Are you going to run into the
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  pool? Should you keep them on one side
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  of the room, sort of thing? Do you want to make it?
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  You want to also make sure that your clothes so that the cone
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  doesn't kill you but you that leaves you less time to run if
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  he does the charge. So there's different interplay
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  with their. I want to see what the Mythic
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  the Mythic version does. To add onto that, right?
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  I think, all of these things are great starting points.
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  Great places to build. But also, I'm appreciate it
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  appreciative that they are fairly straightforward on Lower
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  difficulties so that we're not causing headaches for people who
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  don't want to deal with the Mythic twist.
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  Exactly. And so, then along with this we
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  got to develop a snow. Just like I said before but in
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  blizzards words, this week we have removed the Azure span to
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  allow Alpha testers to focus on the drakh theater starting
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  experience. In the Forbidden, reach the two
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  new level 60 dungeons, the profession changes and the
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  talent revamps. With each phase, we encourage
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  players to make a new template character and avoid using their
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  previous characters as they could potentially be in a broken
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  State. Potentially, is not just a
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  figure of speech friends. If you were running through the
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  dungeon, this is part of the reason that they had to do some
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  changes. If you were running through a
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  dungeon dungeon experience was on, if you went past the cap, Of
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  level 60 and you logged out you would have your character locked
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  and you would not be able to get back onto that character so they
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  had to hot fix it to be like. Okay, you can do that heroic
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  dungeons weren't initially available but then people found
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  their way in. So they open that up for people
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  to test and in fact the reason that I didn't go too much into
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  what the differences were between normal and heroic is
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  that it might very well be that some of the heroic twists were
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  not yet implemented and we weren't supposed to be testing
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  that but it's fine. We went through that.
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  This testing has been a lot more Focus than they have had before
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  and it's something that was said throughout.
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  So again, will we will get back to that so you could make the
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  level 58 track, their do, the Forbidden starting zone, you can
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  make the level 60 template, make sure you played it only at 60,
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  and you could use that to test professions or do the Dungeons.
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  And I think about 3 dungeons capped you out, and then you
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  have to restart your character until they had fixed.
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  That. But one of the big things with
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  the templates not is that they did a talent revamp.
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  And this week, we got the shaman talent revamps.
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  Super happy to see them. I'm not going to go into the
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  minutiae of the talent revamps. If you really want an in-depth.
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  Look, I suggest you guys check out my my talk that I had with
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  PSI and then after that I literally had word up, who is
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  the Guide writer for Wowhead. And for I see veins and the top
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  Theory. Crafter for Enhancement Shaman,
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  actually show up in chat and we had a bit of a chat as well.
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  So there was a lot of levels with PSI and myself.
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  We were talking about General Trends and and and fun and
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  everything with word up. When I started talking with him
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  a little bit more nitty-gritty, that's all available for if
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  people want to do that. But the general thing that I
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  wanted press upon anybody about the This is that the shaman
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  talent trees, learned, a lot of lessons, from the previous
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  talent, trees stuff that we got in the first week.
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  Like Druid like death, knight stuff that we got afterwards,
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  like priest and Rogue. Those have informed, what
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  they've done. And we've seen that development
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  here. And so the shaman talent trees
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  are in a much better place than I would say, a lot of the
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  earlier ones and hopefully we're going to see a revision of those
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  trees. Trees those earlier ones to be
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  more in line with the shaman ones and in fact, we have seen
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  them saying that they are going to revise a lot of those trees
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  including very particular details for hunters.
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  So I'm very glad to see that. When your tree comes up, give
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  feedback, they are very much listening.
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  The fact that these dungeons changed dramatically over the
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  course of one week means that they are ready to make changes
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  at a moment's. Notice, the Focus testing is all
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  about that. Yeah, but that's not all we had
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  in this build. They also had specializations
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  and I'm going to read the developers note and then I'm
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  going to pass it over to you live and you have an entire
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  breakdown of stuff that we found on the alpha.
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  So for two specializations they said that in this alpha build
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  Alchemy and blacksmithing professions now have their
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  specializations enabled. Unlocking specializations
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  requires 25 skill in that Session.
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  Once unlocked players can spend specialization points to unlock
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  various bonuses for their profession.
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  For the purposes of alpha, we've added a consumable, professor
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  instructors. Top secret guide on the
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  associate professor instructed or vendor that gives 50
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  specialization points. So this is just allowing you to
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  skip the process and just dive in and try different
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  combinations for specializations.
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  And with that said, live, take it.
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  Sure, so crafting, we started off with the initial alpha build
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  with the ability to get in and test out Alchemy and
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  blacksmithing. They have since expanded
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  Alchemy, and blacksmithing specifically to to allow for a
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  little bit more focused testing on it and it with that they've
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  opened up specializations. But before before we get into
• 24:15
  that, I did want to To, to mention a couple of things
• 24:20
  before getting into the specializations because we
• 24:23
  haven't had a chance to talk about some of the more General
• 24:27
  crafting stuff since the last episode where we focused mostly
• 24:31
  on our initial playthrough of drag theater, as they as they
• 24:36
  were, you know, coming up on the alpha.
• 24:38
  But yeah, as we know that there will be there will be crafting
• 24:43
  tables that will have to go to in order to do most of the
• 24:46
  high-level crafting. All of the professions in this
• 24:50
  expansion. All the, the stuff that specific
• 24:53
  to dragonflight will have to go to crafting tables in order to
• 24:56
  be able to craft that stuff. And all of these tables are
• 24:59
  going to be located in the new capital city, which is called
• 25:02
  Val Drakken. And they noted, that Engineers,
• 25:06
  specifically will be gaining the ability to create temporary
• 25:10
  crafting tables, anywhere, around the world.
• 25:12
  So that's, that's something that you should keep in mind that
• 25:15
  like, definitely make friends with.
• 25:18
  Ears as quickly as possible and make sure that your guild has
• 25:21
  one on hand. They also made quite a huge
• 25:25
  change that many. Mm, pretty sure you're going to
• 25:28
  be ecstatic about and all all action, house Gremlins and
• 25:32
  goblins. And, and just people that enjoy
• 25:36
  crafting and have an eye towards this, as a good source of
• 25:41
  content to play through in this game, they're adding a reagent
• 25:45
  bag that operates very, similarly, to how the Didn't
• 25:48
  Bank tab works. Then it will be a very large bag
• 25:53
  that you will have available to you.
• 25:55
  That you'll be able to just have all of your reagents in wherever
• 25:59
  you go. So they've added this and it's a
• 26:02
  bag slot that's going to be separate from the the bags that
• 26:06
  we we have. Like the I think it's like
• 26:08
  standard for slots plus the backpack.
• 26:10
  So this is a entirely different bag slot that we're getting a
• 26:15
  and equippable region bag that will be able to put in and For
• 26:18
  our reagents in. So on top of that, they're also
• 26:21
  increasing the maximum stack sizes for just for reagents like
• 26:27
  General, reagents up to 1000 and any crafted consumables will be
• 26:32
  able to most crafted consumables.
• 26:35
  Consumables will be able to go up to 200.
• 26:37
  So that also is going to help in the department of bag space
• 26:41
  because that's been quite a, quite a touchy subject for quite
• 26:46
  few people. Over over the last couple years
• 26:49
  because we have a lot of stuff that we collect through playing
• 26:55
  this game. And a lot of people that are
• 26:58
  really too keen on getting rid of a lot of the more memorable
• 27:02
  stuff. The last kind of General thing
• 27:06
  is that they're changing milling and prospecting.
• 27:09
  Finally, it is no longer going to be something where you click
• 27:12
  milling, and or prospecting, and then click the, or in your bag
• 27:15
  and all, or have to Do Mass prospecting, which is like 200
• 27:21
  at a time and you had to have two hundred at a time in order
• 27:24
  to make use of that. Don't have to do that anymore.
• 27:29
  Instead they're changing it to a system where you'll be able to
• 27:33
  select an or, or herb from the from the menu from the Milling
• 27:38
  or prospecting menu, and just do however, much you want from from
• 27:42
  that menu of whichever or you select.
• 27:45
  So, super, super easy. Super simple.
• 27:49
  Changed it honestly should have been made a long time ago but
• 27:53
  make sense. They're doing it now with the
• 27:55
  with the entire the entire, you know, overhaul of the profession
• 27:59
  system that they're that they're doing.
• 28:02
  We got a little bit more information on profession
• 28:04
  equipment. So we know now that most
• 28:08
  professions are going to have three equipment slots.
• 28:11
  So we're going to have one tool. And to accessories tool will be
• 28:16
  like your blacksmithing Hammer. You're fishing.
• 28:18
  Rod. Like, for every profession that
• 28:20
  you have trained, you'll just be able to slot that tool in.
• 28:23
  You won't have to carry it around in your bag and whenever
• 28:25
  you go to do a one of your profession actions, like cast
• 28:31
  your fishing line or craft craft a piece of armor, you'll just
• 28:37
  your character will just assume that they're using that item
• 28:42
  that you have equipped, you won't have to, you won't have to
• 28:44
  go, like manually equip stuff to be able to craft or To go mine
• 28:49
  or fish or whatever, whatever it is.
• 28:52
  It's as long as it's equipped, you can use it.
• 28:54
  And it will also, whenever you start doing one of these
• 28:57
  actions, your character will change to show the equipment
• 29:01
  that you have slotted for that profession.
• 29:05
  And then it won't go away until you like get into combat.
• 29:09
  I think is what they said but I have feedback on that and that's
• 29:13
  that you should be able to manually turn it off without
• 29:17
  having to get into combat because I don't necessarily want
• 29:20
  to walk around with a with a Miner's cap on all the time.
• 29:26
  Maybe it could be a toggle like Visage form.
• 29:30
  Yeah, exactly. It's cool-looking equipment that
• 29:33
  I think we've gotten we've got an Alchemy leatherworking
• 29:37
  blacksmithing. I think, I think there are very
• 29:41
  few maybe inscription hasn't been shown yet as to what the
• 29:45
  with the equipment is going to be for it.
• 29:48
  I think most of them we've seen kind of a general idea of what
• 29:52
  the what the equipment that we're going to have for the
• 29:54
  professions is going to look like it.
• 29:56
  All looks pretty cool, like it's all rad.
• 30:01
  It's just, you know, stuff that yeah.
• 30:05
  Like some people are going to be really into it and want to have
• 30:08
  have that on all the time and some people aren't.
• 30:11
  And on that note they did say that they are looking into
• 30:16
  adding a lot of these appearance.
• 30:18
  Options as transmog later on down the road, but they won't be
• 30:21
  available for transmog. Immediately which I think is is
• 30:24
  a good thing because it allows it allows for an emphasis to be
• 30:28
  put on the the equipment that you are able to make are able to
• 30:32
  acquire and have it. Be something that looks a little
• 30:35
  bit special. Set you a little bit apart from
• 30:37
  everyone else, which is, you know, I think part of the goal
• 30:41
  right next. Next little thing is a little
• 30:46
  bit about re-crafting. So I don't, I don't know that
• 30:49
  this was in last time we talked about it, but we now know that
• 30:54
  re-crafting which of course can be done on any crafted piece in
• 30:59
  the dragon Isles. Well, any dragon Isles specific
• 31:02
  crafted piece can be re-crafted. The new thing that we know is
• 31:07
  that you will have to have a special reagent earned through
• 31:11
  crafting called Artisans metal, that you'll have to to use in
• 31:16
  order to to recraft any peace. And it should be noted that it's
• 31:20
  soulbound. And that also just like with any
• 31:24
  other crafting reagent, either the person requesting the craft
• 31:28
  or the person doing the actual crafting can supply The Artisans
• 31:32
  metal. And you also, like, if you're
• 31:34
  crafting your own stuff, obviously, like you'll have
• 31:36
  you'll have your own metal that you can use to craft your
• 31:39
  recraft, your own stuff. So then, the last little thing
• 31:43
  is that this kind of slipped in under the radar is that cooking
• 31:46
  got added in With this latest build.
• 31:50
  And there are some interesting things to come out of it.
• 31:53
  But the most interesting thing is that we're starting to look
• 31:57
  at what kind of foods that we're going to have available to us
• 32:00
  and the couple of things kind of stand out.
• 32:04
  The first one is that there is dual stat food that is going to
• 32:08
  be available. A lot of it is kind of what we
• 32:11
  saw in earlier, iterations of the game where you have like
• 32:14
  primary stat and stamina, which is a very common thing back.
• 32:18
  In like the no vanilla and burning Crusade days.
• 32:20
  That's that was just kind of what was available.
• 32:23
  Then we are seeing that starting to come back whether or not it
• 32:28
  will stay will entirely depend on feedback I suppose but
• 32:32
  they're testing it out again. And then we're also seeing you
• 32:37
  know base level Foods come in with just a single secondary
• 32:41
  start. And then we're seeing other
• 32:42
  recipes that are being added that are double stat food and
• 32:46
  these are there are double And every step food.
• 32:49
  I should say where you'll have haste verse Etc available on
• 32:54
  these Foods then the where this gets even more interesting is
• 32:59
  that the feasts operate, much in the same way that they operate
• 33:03
  now where it's going to be a lot more of a single stat, then you
• 33:09
  would be able to get from just regular food on its own but
• 33:12
  these are all like set values and will only be a single
• 33:17
  secondary stat Not double secondary stat.
• 33:19
  So technically, you're going to be getting more stats out of
• 33:23
  these double secondary stat Foods than you would from the
• 33:26
  feast. So it's going to be kind of a
• 33:28
  balancing act for you personally and for your raid teams whether
• 33:32
  or not you want to have people come in and make a bunch of
• 33:35
  Feasts for everyone to make it like super easy to get there to
• 33:39
  get their food Buffs or if you want to have everyone come in
• 33:43
  with double stat. Secondary food or double
• 33:45
  secondary, stat food such For. But regardless cooking is in and
• 33:51
  available to test. I don't think the
• 33:53
  specializations are in necessarily, right?
• 33:56
  This moment. Like they are.
• 33:57
  No, they're not. Yeah, so not in yet.
• 34:00
  Like they are for Alchemy and blacksmithing, but we're
• 34:02
  starting to see, starting to see, you know, kind of how
• 34:05
  cooking is going to shape out, and it's interesting to say the
• 34:10
  least. But that does bring me to the
• 34:13
  big thing around crafting and professions in general with
• 34:17
  this. New build.
• 34:18
  And that's the specializations we're seeing Alchemy and
• 34:21
  blacksmithing. Alchemy, and particular has
• 34:23
  postmaster and file last three, which is different from earlier
• 34:27
  iterations of alchemy, which had potion master and flask master
• 34:33
  and then transmutation Master, which were three separate
• 34:38
  different specializations you could choose from.
• 34:41
  Now we're just seeing pushing master and a new one called file
• 34:46
  Mastery, which is Saying flasks. So if you hadn't heard before,
• 34:51
  congratulations flask her out, they are being replaced with
• 34:54
  files, and these generally had the same effect, but they're a
• 34:59
  little bit different in how they work, but we're not going to
• 35:03
  really get into that too much. Right now.
• 35:05
  We're just talking about the specializations for now.
• 35:08
  Yeah. But I would say that it's
• 35:09
  misleading to say that they generally had the same effect,
• 35:12
  like some of them would have property boost where it's like,
• 35:16
  okay, here's Here's a flat amount of intellect and stuff
• 35:21
  but they have very real restrictions.
• 35:23
  Like it's you can you'll get this bonus but only if you're
• 35:28
  staying away from other people and if you get within ten yards,
• 35:31
  three seconds later, you'll drop this bonus.
• 35:33
  So you want to stay spread out there like very much trying to
• 35:36
  keep it separate and they're also going to be tailored to
• 35:40
  fight cops so you might not like that one.
• 35:42
  If it's a fight that requires you to stack, you might want a
• 35:45
  different one. And because of this, the Files
• 35:48
  are going to only have a half hour duration so that you could
• 35:53
  switch like oh when I'm doing rygel on, I want this fight but
• 35:56
  then when I go to Jailer, I'm going to switch it out.
• 35:58
  And so having something that lasts for a full hour, two hours
• 36:01
  of your Alchemist is a lot of wasted time and this means that
• 36:04
  these things will be tailored. There will be a lot of them it
• 36:08
  as with the cooking that you're talking about it is very much, a
• 36:14
  what does the situation demand? Are you going to be somebody who
• 36:18
  is going to need the to stat food or are you going to be good
• 36:22
  with a primary plus stamina because that's how it seems for
• 36:25
  you and what you might might, what you might want again might
• 36:29
  differ from fight to fight so they're making everything not
• 36:33
  just specialize in who's creating them and how they're
• 36:36
  created, but how they apply to each situation, of course, and
• 36:41
  where there is lure overlap between files and flashes, there
• 36:45
  will be some general, use ones that are just like you just get
• 36:48
  like little bit extra damage and like those will be, those will
• 36:51
  be like the cheap ones that that you'll be able to get for, you
• 36:56
  know, if you just need like a little bit to push you over in
• 36:59
  like some, some lower-level keys while you're trying to Gear Up
• 37:01
  initially, like those will be there for you to be able to to
• 37:05
  purchase and use or make yourself, but one of the
• 37:08
  examples of one of the one of the perks that was given by
• 37:12
  blizzard for potion Master, is called batch production this one
• 37:17
  States Master the art of producing potions, more
• 37:20
  efficiently, gaining plus 1, multi craft per point in this
• 37:23
  specialization. So you will have a higher level,
• 37:26
  the more points you put more knowledge point you put into
• 37:29
  that particular into that particular node will give you
• 37:32
  more multi craft when when crafting potions and then
• 37:35
  blacksmithing. Oh, wait, wait.
• 37:39
  You have more to say on that? Well, because that's only part
• 37:42
  of it. It's like when you go into that
• 37:43
  specialization and it's like +1 multigraph per point.
• 37:48
  They're the first point is worth a lot because as soon as you
• 37:51
  unlock that specialization you get a big amount of that stat.
• 37:56
  So for the batch production, you're getting 60 multi craft
• 38:00
  for just unlocking that. So the first point is actually
• 38:03
  worth 61 points and then they'll go to 62.
• 38:06
  Obviously numbers changing on on Alpha, based on how they go
• 38:11
  through it. But going into that
• 38:13
  specialization gives you a big boost.
• 38:16
  You can double down and keep Going further into that
• 38:18
  specialization. And as you go through, you will
• 38:21
  get additional additional bonuses.
• 38:25
  Usually around every five points or so.
• 38:29
  So like for like let's say, the batch production immediately, 60
• 38:34
  points. When you put some additional
• 38:37
  points in, then you're going to get 50 crafting speed towards
• 38:40
  that, you get more points in there, that's when you can then
• 38:44
  learn potion cauldron of power. So, like the special Station is
• 38:49
  like, yes, you get some points for each point in between, but
• 38:53
  that's just the filler to these big things when you've dived
• 38:56
  into them into that specialization of like, multi
• 38:59
  craft additional multi craft crafting speed when you're doing
• 39:03
  a potions or resourcefulness and that sort of stuff.
• 39:06
  And that's where those specialization trees are really
• 39:09
  special because it's not just branches its Point within the
• 39:12
  branch that will get you more and more powerful stuff when you
• 39:16
  are doing that subsection. Ocean of the profession.
• 39:19
  The you are heading the blacksmithing.
• 39:21
  Sorry for I jumped in there blacksmithing, the
• 39:23
  specializations that are available armor, smithing weapon
• 39:25
  smithing and then specialty smithing, which man, you may
• 39:29
  know a little bit more about what specialty smithing is.
• 39:31
  I think that's more like you're not necessarily weapons and
• 39:35
  armor but like your tools and and that that sort of stuff or
• 39:40
  your I guess more utility stuff like a the The regions that
• 39:47
  you're crafting alongside with other with other stuff, whereas
• 39:53
  armorsmith any weapon smithing self-explanatory, those are
• 39:56
  definitely more geared towards, you know, exactly what they say,
• 40:00
  like, making weapons and making armor, especially their
• 40:03
  Specialties. Smithing is more for like the
• 40:05
  things that don't fit into those two categories specifically
• 40:09
  exactly. It's being used as a kind of
• 40:11
  catch-all for everything else. And of course, The weapon
• 40:15
  crafting and all of those, there are the again those sub points
• 40:20
  that you can put in. So you can be Long Blade, which
• 40:22
  is swords and things that have longer blades, but then that's
• 40:26
  not good include dagger. So, even within armor smithing
• 40:29
  and weapon smithing. There's those, those same sub
• 40:32
  specializations. Yeah, which the it is a little
• 40:36
  bit confusing because the example that they showed says
• 40:40
  long bladed, weapons and tools, such as swords glaives, and
• 40:43
  sickles. So it Like think that there may
• 40:46
  be a little bit more, little bit more to it.
• 40:48
  Like obviously sickle is going to be different from like an
• 40:51
  Olympic or something that you might use in alchemy.
• 40:55
  So like there's going to be there's going to be you know,
• 40:58
  weird weird one-off stuff, like the cycles that I'm sure
• 41:02
  herbalists are going to be using for their for their like main
• 41:04
  crafting tool. But yeah, then on top of that
• 41:09
  you have a final kind of thing and I'm I think I think I have a
• 41:14
  graph But these These are but basically what they're called
• 41:18
  for Alchemy is a chemical Theory and then for blacksmithing is
• 41:22
  Anvil Mastery and I think that that those those aren't
• 41:26
  specializations necessarily but they're they're just kind of
• 41:30
  kind of like more General use like just for getting additional
• 41:36
  crafting points in your in your specialization for one way or
• 41:40
  the other. Well, like again having the
• 41:43
  Practical experience on the alpha and going through it
• 41:46
  basically you have your very specific specializations I'm
• 41:51
  going to do potions or I'm going to do files and then the other
• 41:54
  ones are. I want something that's good all
• 41:58
  over but isn't amazing at any one particular thing.
• 42:01
  So it's kind of a specialization that is I don't want to
• 42:05
  specialize and so it'll do General things that should help
• 42:10
  a lot of things but won't but you won't get as much of a
• 42:13
  bonus. The specializations of course,
• 42:18
  with enough time, you can learn everything.
• 42:20
  So eventually that fundamentals that you get from alchemical
• 42:26
  Theory, which is like fundamental like, oh what's the
• 42:29
  basis of alchemy putting through and those bonuses you lay those
• 42:34
  on top of being a file Specialist, or a potion
• 42:37
  specialist and you'll be that much better at that for that
• 42:41
  particular specialization and eventually it supposedly with
• 42:45
  Training and everything. You'll be able to master all of
• 42:49
  these specializations. And that will mean that you are
• 42:53
  truly a master of alchemy in that.
• 42:56
  So it really is where you want to dive in.
• 42:58
  First, how you want to supplement, that I really think
• 43:01
  that based on what they have on the alpha right now, you would
• 43:07
  want to do a specialization, like, let's say, potion
• 43:10
  specialization and then bump that up.
• 43:13
  By using the alchemical theory to den, get additional bonuses
• 43:18
  on top of your potion specialization.
• 43:22
  Or again, become a weapon Smith and then use the Anvil Mastery
• 43:27
  to further bump that up. But using the general thing,
• 43:31
  will just mean that like, okay, I'm pretty decent at everything,
• 43:35
  you won't be better than somebody who's just a potion
• 43:39
  Master. But you will be better at making
• 43:41
  files than somebody who's a potion Master.
• 43:44
  That's, that's what it is, and I think that it's pretty, it's
• 43:48
  pretty good. It is, it it is definitely the
• 43:52
  second one that I think everybody should go into, but
• 43:55
  obviously as these bonuses change as the numbers change,
• 43:59
  That will that will change. And I'm not the biggest Theory
• 44:02
  crafter. So, take what I say with a grain
• 44:04
  of salt. Yep, the last little note on
• 44:08
  specializations is that, as I said before, they unlock it,
• 44:12
  skill, level 25, you get a bunch of knowledge at that point.
• 44:17
  You can start dumping into into the specialization and start
• 44:20
  crafting with with the bonuses that you get from that.
• 44:23
  So very, very interesting stuff. Of course, these are the only to
• 44:28
  the only To crafting professions that we have our hands on that.
• 44:33
  Have these in place, these are definitely definitely going to
• 44:36
  be changing with with feedback over the next couple weeks.
• 44:41
  Oh yeah, the UI is incredibly raw and rough is in the way that
• 44:46
  it's done. There's clearly a lot more work
• 44:48
  to do but this is just us getting a first taste of it as
• 44:52
  we get more time in there and as we they get more feedback it's
• 44:56
  only going to get better but truly Lee from what I was able
• 45:00
  to do on the alpha. It is a good amount of time that
• 45:06
  we're going to be spending with the systems in order to master
• 45:09
  everything. Everything was sped up for
• 45:12
  nominally because of the like here's 25 points which you
• 45:16
  wouldn't normally get you would have to be crafting and then
• 45:18
  eventually you would earn the point by crafting enough in that
• 45:21
  sort of field. I think.
• 45:23
  That the way it works, remember like let's say you have 100
• 45:27
  skill points to max out. Thing, you're going to learn all
• 45:30
  your recipes by 50 and then being able to get better is
• 45:34
  going to be getting these specializations being able to
• 45:37
  get the higher results from your craft by using better resources,
• 45:42
  intermixing what you have with other crafters and other
• 45:47
  gatherers in order to support each other.
• 45:49
  Because you would want to, let's say, in order to make the best
• 45:54
  potion, you're going to need a dragonglass.
• 45:58
  Gas container. And that Dragon glass container
• 46:02
  is made by a jewel crafter. So you're going to have to go
• 46:04
  talk to the jewel crafter and that joke after in order to
• 46:07
  like, you know, get the glass down, might need to speak with a
• 46:11
  blacksmith in order to get like some sort of purifying Flame or
• 46:14
  something along those lines in order to get get the exact
• 46:17
  thing. And there's so much intermixing
• 46:19
  between this, there's going to be a full on economy and I could
• 46:23
  see Literal Merchant guilds emerging from this, and that is
• 46:28
  phenomenal. So, crafting is going to be an
• 46:32
  endgame, maybe even an endgame of itself entirely separate from
• 46:37
  just trying to run an economy which it hasn't been in the
• 46:41
  past. This is not going to be
• 46:42
  something where you are going to sit somebody down, mail them a
• 46:47
  bunch of materials and be like, okay, craft your way up to cap
• 46:51
  and then, all right, you can sit, you can sit in or Bose and
• 46:53
  will never talk to you again. Poor, poor level, 56 priest.
• 46:56
  Not not pointing that anybody right now.
• 47:02
  So I really I really am looking forward to this.
• 47:05
  It sounds like a lot guys and in some cases it is a lot, but once
• 47:12
  you get into it, it is fairly straightforward.
• 47:17
  It is stuff that we have pretty much seen before and then it is
• 47:23
  actually one of the reasons. Ins that I don't think I'm going
• 47:26
  to have too many else because putting the time into working on
• 47:29
  a profession is going to be an investment but it's going to
• 47:32
  have a very rewarding return when you can do this sort of
• 47:36
  stuff and you can go into the fundamental stuff like envelope
• 47:39
  Mastery and Alchemists alchemical Theory and rather
• 47:43
  than be producing the end stuff like potions and like files.
• 47:47
  You can produce stuff that is used by other professions so
• 47:52
  that they can do it and you can make money as Kind of a middle
• 47:55
  step sort of thing. So yeah, I'm looking forward to
• 47:58
  this a lot but with that said, we're going to move over to the
• 48:02
  talent tree design, which is something that we had been
• 48:05
  talking about before. As I said this week, we got the
• 48:08
  shaman talents. There's a lot of reiteration
• 48:12
  that has come from the earlier talent trees.
• 48:16
  A lot more of a lateral build, because in previous talent
• 48:21
  trees. The way which set up is that you
• 48:24
  would be. I think decays were actually one
• 48:26
  of the most horrendous, the thing for this.
• 48:29
  You would be frost, you would be blood, you would be Unholy and
• 48:32
  you could pretty much carve your path straight down the tree.
• 48:37
  To the end result with spending a couple of points into
• 48:42
  something, that was more set towards blood for defensive
• 48:46
  nature or if you want to be more glass Cannon, really, really
• 48:50
  push into that that I Frost build but we mostly focus on in
• 48:55
  Unholy similar with the spec tree.
• 48:59
  One side of the tree seemed like how to make your Google stuff.
• 49:03
  Go the other side of the tree was about using your strikes,
• 49:06
  you know, festering strike and such to build that out for on
• 49:10
  holy because on whole he's the one that I know how to play.
• 49:12
  I live, you your ear. I so maybe you can speak more
• 49:15
  about this from frost tree, but there wasn't much interplay in
• 49:20
  between and the The shaman talent tree has done, a much
• 49:24
  better job, you having things on all sides of the tree that you
• 49:28
  would want to go grab having less of the filler talents that
• 49:32
  are simply percentage increases and such.
• 49:36
  But in times, where there is a little bit of that percentage
• 49:39
  increase, they are actually quite interesting talents where
• 49:46
  you would want. Oh, let me add 5%, additional,
• 49:50
  Frost and nature. Damn.
• 49:51
  Edge from here, which leads me into being able to buff my storm
• 49:57
  strike to do nature damage. Which means that now, my storm
• 50:00
  strike is actually benefiting from that as well.
• 50:03
  And it the theming is way stronger, the combos, if you
• 50:09
  will are much more together. So that you do know, when you're
• 50:13
  like, okay, I want to have my lava burst increase the damage
• 50:18
  of my next Frost or nature damage.
• 50:21
  Age. But then just below that there
• 50:24
  is Frost melting which means that my Frost now increases my
• 50:27
  next lava burst damage and it Loops together to make, okay?
• 50:31
  I want to be bouncing back and forth between lava burst and
• 50:34
  Frost Shock and then there's other Loops from there.
• 50:37
  So there's a lot more of that. I think the Latin the one thing
• 50:41
  that I'm really looking for in general from these talent trees
• 50:45
  is a bit of a guide rail against trap talents.
• 50:50
  Yeah. Speaking of which there is one
• 50:54
  that on your stream earlier it was touched on but there's it
• 50:59
  was it. I strike is the the talent and
• 51:02
  the enhancement tree that enhances your next.
• 51:05
  Your next flash drive. Yes.
• 51:07
  Frost rocket. Yes.
• 51:09
  So that I think is one of these ever mentioned trap talents that
• 51:16
  obviously, if you take if you take Frost strike you want to
• 51:19
  have also taken Frost Shock as well because of the obvious
• 51:24
  energy there. And there is nothing in the tree
• 51:27
  that bruh, habits you from taking frustrate if you hadn't
• 51:32
  already chosen Frost Shock. So there's stuff like that.
• 51:36
  Like, obvious synergies that I feel like they could do a little
• 51:39
  bit better of a job outlining in, in terms of what you're able
• 51:43
  to get the full benefit of. Also in the enhancement tree,
• 51:47
  bottom left hand under the under the, but the prey Radio wave
• 51:52
  talents the one at the very bottom left hand corner.
• 51:55
  I think that one you have to have that.
• 51:58
  You have to have lava burst and and healing wave taken.
• 52:03
  Is that correct or did it maybe it's chained heel in the, in the
• 52:07
  class talent tree at least how they have it, how they had it
• 52:10
  phrased, it was like Master of the elements or something like
• 52:14
  that. It least it on the talent
• 52:17
  calculators. Online, not in game itself.
• 52:21
  But on the talent calculators, that kind of had it worded, such
• 52:24
  that you had to have those, those two talents taken in the
• 52:29
  class tree, like the basically everything in the top row except
• 52:32
  for Asheville, shift had to be taken in order to grab that
• 52:37
  talent and I was like, okay, that'd be really cool.
• 52:41
  If it was, if they were, you know, more conditional stuff
• 52:43
  where you're like, you have conditions that you have to meet
• 52:46
  in the class Tree in order to take specific.
• 52:49
  It's in the spec tree. Like that would be, that would
• 52:52
  be kind of a cool way to explore how these talents are playing
• 52:57
  out like without to get getting into too much.
• 52:59
  My new show of like which talents were locked Which towns
• 53:02
  were trapped. Talents.
• 53:04
  There are of course some talents that were specifically highly
• 53:08
  weakened. If you didn't have another
• 53:10
  talent that you should be able to get first.
• 53:13
  Or, in some cases, they were some talents that were
• 53:16
  completely dead unless You had a prerequisite talent and I think
• 53:21
  that in those cases, those talents should either be one
• 53:25
  locked off to you so that you can't take it without the
• 53:28
  prerequisite. But I think in a better training
• 53:31
  way, it should be that you Mouse over it.
• 53:35
  The talent is red showing that you can't take it or grayed out
• 53:38
  that determine that you can't take it.
• 53:39
  And then when you Mouse over it, the talent.
• 53:42
  That is the prerequisite should light up to show.
• 53:46
  It's like, oh, okay, that's the talent.
• 53:48
  That's Did. And I think if they do that in
• 53:51
  multiple trees, regardless of whatever the prerequisite is, it
• 53:54
  will help solve the, oh, I made a bad build sort of thing.
• 53:59
  Yeah. Beyond that.
• 54:00
  It's just sort of like they would have to have some sort of
• 54:03
  clippy where it's like, I noticed you spent all your
• 54:06
  points, but you have absolutely no interrupt or CC interrupted
• 54:09
  CCS very strong, like that sort of that sort of stuff, or what
• 54:14
  they have said, which I think is also very good is that they're
• 54:18
  having template builds, they're going to put out a template.
• 54:22
  When you are first playing, whatever it is.
• 54:24
  Unholy death, knight Frost death, knight Enhancement,
• 54:27
  Shaman Druid. Whatever it is.
• 54:30
  Hey, here is a template starter talent.
• 54:34
  Build. This is what we think is good
• 54:37
  for you. Congratulations on reaching
• 54:39
  level 60. I don't know how you made it
• 54:42
  here, but here's something, you should consider.
• 54:44
  This is what we think would work.
• 54:47
  Congratulations, you've now It to level 70.
• 54:50
  I'm not sure how you made it this far without looking at this
• 54:54
  talent tree. But here's here's a template and
• 54:58
  I think it's that sort of stuff is is where they can help
• 55:02
  players, who might not want to go through all the minutiae of
• 55:05
  all the different talents or may not be looking over at Wowhead
• 55:08
  to find out what this person said or may not be following the
• 55:11
  Icy Veins point-by-point guide of where the put their points in
• 55:15
  that I think it would be enough but all the same Um, I just
• 55:19
  think that like hey, you went and you took, it took a spell
• 55:23
  that cannot work without this previous spell and you didn't
• 55:29
  take that previous spell. We are really not going to let
• 55:32
  you take that and we're going to highlight the spell that
• 55:34
  stopping you from from taking this.
• 55:36
  Yeah that would be a very, very welcome change to how it
• 55:41
  operates. But on the flip side, you
• 55:43
  mentioned death Knights and also mention that they're going to be
• 55:47
  making some changes. One thing that I hope That they
• 55:50
  start bringing two other classes and and something that we can
• 55:53
  talk about with the the shaman because there are similarities
• 55:56
  here, is that there are in some cases.
• 55:59
  There are duplicate talents. So, for Frost death, knight, for
• 56:03
  example, you can take Empower Rune, weapon twice.
• 56:07
  And if you do take that particular talent in both the
• 56:11
  class and the spec tree it upgrades.
• 56:14
  So you're not wasting a talent Point by by taking the same.
• 56:19
  Talent in both trees. You have so say, you grab and
• 56:22
  power rude weapon in your class tree, and you just happen to
• 56:25
  grab it again on your way down in the frost tree to grab
• 56:29
  something else. You then get a bonus on top of
• 56:34
  what you are already getting to empower Rune weapon.
• 56:38
  If you have both the talents, the shaman, there are duplicate
• 56:41
  talents in multiple trees. I think in in Elemental, and in
• 56:45
  restoration, I think there are there are multiple or not
• 56:48
  multiple, but there. Duplicate talents in both of
• 56:50
  those. So you have two ways to get
• 56:52
  healing stream totem. For example, for Elemental, it
• 56:56
  is stormbringer order. Other storm keeper is twice in
• 57:00
  the tree for their spec tree for Resto.
• 57:04
  Healing stream, totem is in their tree, but it's also in the
• 57:09
  general jamun tree as well. And like you said, in both
• 57:12
  cases, if you choose to get both of them, you'll get two charges
• 57:17
  of that and having two charges of Storekeeper is a very
• 57:20
  interesting build Resto having to talent talent points into
• 57:25
  healing stream totem, is something that you can do, but
• 57:28
  mostly it's that you want to convert those into cloudburst
• 57:31
  Odom's which replaces your healing stream, totem.
• 57:35
  The problem right now on Alpha is that if you pick those, it
• 57:42
  actually doesn't give you the stack talent and if you then
• 57:46
  take any one point out of it, it It down completely so you have
• 57:50
  to like restart your tree and only pick one but later on.
• 57:54
  Yes we'll get those stacks and it'll be nice.
• 57:56
  Yeah that'll be that'll be good and I think that that would be
• 57:59
  something good to continue throughout the rest of these as
• 58:03
  they're coming out, is to look for places where we have a
• 58:07
  little bit of overlap, like obviously the the elemental
• 58:10
  shaman, getting to two different storm Keepers.
• 58:14
  Like that's, that's something very specific to Elemental that.
• 58:17
  I don't think you can replicate in.
• 58:18
  Many other places but I like having just just thinking off
• 58:23
  the top of my head of ways to do that like maybe getting like 22
• 58:30
  different talents for like a fire Mage.
• 58:33
  For example, that impeccable raised a question Dead Forever.
• 58:39
  Unholy I get to have two girls and you can do that with Unholy.
• 58:43
  It's just currently split over this second Talent thing that's
• 58:46
  there, but if they just do Dre's dead in the main tree, raise
• 58:50
  dead in the Unholy tree, you pick that you can pick it out of
• 58:53
  the main tree and skip it in the skip it in the spec, but tree,
• 58:57
  or you can do both and get the double ghoul.
• 59:00
  That's something that's easily done in Unholy from what we
• 59:03
  already have. I already see that they do have
• 59:06
  double goal in the Unholy. Tree.
• 59:08
  So it seems like a easy way to shift it over to this new line
• 59:12
  of doing it. Like we have seen in the shaman
• 59:15
  trees. Yeah.
• 59:16
  So with that said, one of the new trees that was released last
• 59:22
  week which I actually don't think needs much adjustment is
• 59:26
  the Avoca tree and this is something you and I both have
• 59:29
  had experience on but now the Evoque is have their starting
• 59:33
  zone, so we get to see what it's like for the quote-unquote baby.
• 59:37
  Of ochre when you're just starting out.
• 59:41
  So focus, our hero class but not going to start at level one and
• 59:45
  you work your way up. They're actually going to start
• 59:47
  at level 58. Have the opening scenario, just
• 59:50
  like we saw with demon hunters and with death nights before
• 59:55
  them. You go through a very cinematic,
• 59:58
  very tailored and on Rails. Ish starting point you wake up
• 1:00:05
  in a vault, your memories are gone and you have Find your way
• 1:00:08
  out with this one. I would say that it is a closer
• 1:00:13
  experience it. I think it's actually the lesser
• 1:00:15
  of the three I think that when we were dealing with arthas in
• 1:00:20
  the death knight thing, it was just it was really rousing and
• 1:00:24
  such when you're dealing with Illidan and your demon Hunters,
• 1:00:30
  like you've got that like initial hook of like oh man I
• 1:00:33
  know this guy we don't have known characters until very
• 1:00:37
  late. Late into this starting
• 1:00:39
  experience, but the zone is beautiful.
• 1:00:43
  We don't have that immediate sense of urgency like we did in
• 1:00:48
  the death, knight starting experience and in the Demon
• 1:00:52
  Hunter starting experience. But the way that you move around
• 1:00:57
  is a fantastic, you get sore fairly early in there and you
• 1:01:02
  use sore multiple times slight aside, is that they need to have
• 1:01:08
  At least in the starting area a way to reset the cooldown of
• 1:01:11
  sore because if you mess it up, that thing is on a 5-minute
• 1:01:15
  cooldown and you need to Traverse a rather large area
• 1:01:20
  without any Mount flying ground or anything.
• 1:01:26
  And it's a long way to go. So hopefully, they'll they'll
• 1:01:32
  get that feedback because I know multiple people have luckily,
• 1:01:35
  this is week 2 of alpha. So I was Pretty decent at The
• 1:01:40
  Soaring ability and didn't know off track, but it was really a
• 1:01:45
  lot of fun. It does show as a prequel intro
• 1:01:51
  to what's going to be happening in dragonflight, and I don't
• 1:01:55
  want to put much story spoilers out.
• 1:01:57
  I think that people are going to enjoy this one even though it is
• 1:02:01
  a slower burn for a starting experience and then eventually
• 1:02:05
  you get to Stormwind or you get to Oregon bar. and you choose
• 1:02:08
  your, your envisage form, which strangely you've already chosen
• 1:02:13
  before, when you made your character, There's a lot of
• 1:02:20
  little subtleties going on here which I have compared this to
• 1:02:25
  Pandaria before but I'm doubling down on this.
• 1:02:29
  There is a lot of cues that they are taking both in terms of how
• 1:02:34
  they're building out the world and how you're interacting with
• 1:02:37
  the world but also kind of some story beats, we're on this like
• 1:02:41
  whoop what's this about? And eventually we're going to
• 1:02:45
  have a sit down and talk about the stories.
• 1:02:48
  A soon depending on how things go and we'll definitely talk
• 1:02:52
  about that, but we will flag the episode full of spoilers because
• 1:02:57
  there's a lot of big things happening.
• 1:03:00
  And I'm really excited to see where this goes.
• 1:03:02
  So, the director of ochre starting zone, I would say, if I
• 1:03:06
  was going to rate, what would you rate is?
• 1:03:08
  Your top between death Knights and Demon Hunters?
• 1:03:13
  I've already called this bike bird that gosh.
• 1:03:17
  Well, so, I mean, like, it's unfair for me to passionate or
• 1:03:21
  not because I've not played it yet.
• 1:03:22
  No, no. I just want to say the, the
• 1:03:23
  previous to that you have played it like in just to just to give
• 1:03:29
  frame of reference for overall like favorite starting zone
• 1:03:33
  experiences, the Demon Hunter is my favorite starting zone
• 1:03:38
  experience by far. It is lengthy but it's it's
• 1:03:44
  worth it then. Wing.
• 1:03:48
  That is actually the the new starting zone that we got in
• 1:03:53
  shadowlands. Oh, exhales reach.
• 1:03:55
  Yes, exams, reach, exactly. So that is number two, it's just
• 1:04:01
  goofy and fantastic. I love it.
• 1:04:03
  And then it's the, the death knight and then after death
• 1:04:10
  knight is literally all the other races.
• 1:04:13
  And like, at the top of all the other races is the circuit.
• 1:04:17
  The table or no, no. There at the bottom like dead
• 1:04:21
  last goblin. No, it's the draenei and in
• 1:04:28
  blood elf starting zones are at the top of my the rest of the
• 1:04:32
  classes and then we're going to Goblin or at the very bottom.
• 1:04:35
  Wow. Okay.
• 1:04:36
  This is entire episode on to itself that we would have this
• 1:04:39
  debate. So I'm just going to move along
• 1:04:40
  and I will say that if I were to include the all the other things
• 1:04:43
  that you just added, I would put this starting zone behind.
• 1:04:47
  Death knight which I feel is my favorite, then Demon Hunter,
• 1:04:53
  okay? Then I would put this in Exiles
• 1:04:57
  reach, following behind that, and I'm not going to go into the
• 1:05:00
  rest because, again, Ty Lee different episode, But at this
• 1:05:06
  time, I would like to thank everybody who is giving us five
• 1:05:10
  star reviews over on iTunes over on the bonus rolls directory and
• 1:05:16
  of course over on Spotify, those five star reviews help us reach
• 1:05:20
  new listeners. And we are looking to grow our
• 1:05:23
  audience and Reach people with all of our silly rankings of
• 1:05:27
  starting zones. And you guys helped that said,
• 1:05:29
  let's talk a little bit about some stuff on life which is the
• 1:05:34
  faded rate. Now, for all my time in Alpha, I
• 1:05:38
  have been playing a bit on live. I've been trying to make sure
• 1:05:42
  that I am logging in each day to do a couple of things for some
• 1:05:46
  mounts, as well as do some stuff for I guess profession,
• 1:05:51
  strangely enough. I think that professions are
• 1:05:53
  going to be changing dramatically, not even just when
• 1:05:56
  dragonflight comes, but nine point two point seven, I think
• 1:05:59
  is going to shake things up. So I'm trying to stay ahead of
• 1:06:02
  that game. Then I think a lot of people are
• 1:06:04
  sleeping on it so I'm trying to make The gold that said season 4
• 1:06:09
  is going to be introducing The Faded raids and of course the
• 1:06:13
  new Mythic plus season. Today we're going to be talking
• 1:06:16
  about The Faded rates because blizzard came out and gave it to
• 1:06:19
  the schedule for faded rates and that will start on August 2nd,
• 1:06:26
  where we will get faded Castle, Nath Ria, that will go through
• 1:06:30
  that week and then the next week, August 9 will get the
• 1:06:34
  sanctum of domination faded. The 16th, it will switch over to
• 1:06:39
  SFO and that will repeat one more week.
• 1:06:42
  So 23rd nephew again 30th sanctum again and September 6.
• 1:06:48
  Sepulchre of the first ones, yet again.
• 1:06:50
  After that second rotation, the rotation is removed and all
• 1:06:55
  raids will become faded later in the season.
• 1:06:59
  While a raid is faded, the other difficulties are not available,
• 1:07:04
  it is only available in fate. A difficulty.
• 1:07:07
  So you won't be able to raid Castle Navia, normal or Mythic
• 1:07:11
  when fate is active on those two weeks that it's active.
• 1:07:14
  And I think that this is going to be interesting, remember that
• 1:07:18
  during The Faded season, for a lot of the Caps that we used to
• 1:07:22
  experience are going to be gone, you're going to be able to like
• 1:07:25
  Farm up Valor on week 1 and like upgrade everything, the cap.
• 1:07:30
  And I think that the real push the real push is going to be 0.
• 1:07:35
  A, I want to get through this faded rate.
• 1:07:39
  I've got two guaranteed weeks, plus like I know they'll all
• 1:07:41
  come back later but we don't know how hard these faded
• 1:07:46
  difficulties are going to be. They may be obviously more
• 1:07:50
  health and such and they're going to be based on the most
• 1:07:53
  nerfed versions that we received at the end of Tears.
• 1:07:56
  We're not going to be going back to how SFO was at the beginning,
• 1:08:00
  when everybody was saying, how destructive that was.
• 1:08:03
  Yes, but they are going to have Isn't a fixes that are going to
• 1:08:07
  mix things up and we will see how that is.
• 1:08:10
  I'm very interested in this. I'm a little worried that I've
• 1:08:14
  only got two Garrett. Well, probably a third
• 1:08:16
  guaranteed week. Of course, for this to get this
• 1:08:20
  all, this is how we're going to get the Slime Kitty.
• 1:08:23
  When you get all of your skills in or get the criteria, you'll
• 1:08:27
  be able to get your slime Kitty and a couple of those special
• 1:08:30
  things. Also really want to run this
• 1:08:32
  with my new guild at Levent levels, and come in from the
• 1:08:38
  beginning because I just, I've always hated coming into a team
• 1:08:43
  late, and I already established team and, you know, being there
• 1:08:47
  for like, let's kill and stuff. Because, like, I don't, I never
• 1:08:51
  feel like I've I've like worked and struggled with the team to
• 1:08:54
  get their. I'd like, they, they're already
• 1:08:56
  established. You're the odd man out.
• 1:08:58
  I don't want to say you're a Carrie.
• 1:08:59
  I don't want to feel like it carry because like, I was doing
• 1:09:02
  well in the damage and everything and that.
• 1:09:04
  But like I just I just I don't feel like I was fully doing my
• 1:09:07
  part and so like jumping in beginning of a season even if it
• 1:09:10
  is the quote unquote. Rehash and eggs is how I feel
• 1:09:13
  like I'm going to be able to submit myself.
• 1:09:14
  Yeah. And like that's that's something
• 1:09:16
  that I feel this season in particular is going to be good
• 1:09:18
  for is going to be, like, coming in because like a lot, a lot of
• 1:09:23
  teams that that I know personally that I've seen in in
• 1:09:27
  retail, over the course of this expansion have not gone great
• 1:09:34
  for heard. These people, you know, leaving
• 1:09:37
  leaving teams, or teams falling apart.
• 1:09:39
  We had an experience of a team falling apart, like, it's, I
• 1:09:42
  feel like it's been a, like, not like super common thing, but
• 1:09:47
  it's something that that has happened.
• 1:09:49
  I feel a little bit more than it has in previous expansions for
• 1:09:56
  four reasons. But this season, in particular
• 1:09:59
  is going to be a good season for for people who found a team
• 1:10:04
  towards the end of as Fo for people that that, you know,
• 1:10:07
  wanted to get back into rating towards the end of this
• 1:10:10
  expansion or are are looking to, you know, establish themselves
• 1:10:14
  on a team for going into Dragon flight.
• 1:10:17
  I feel like this is a fantastic opportunity for that to get in
• 1:10:21
  and you know, because it's like what you said like you feel bad
• 1:10:25
  going in at the end of a tear and, you know, just getting like
• 1:10:29
  you're coming in like a couple of bosses maybe before they SEC
• 1:10:33
  kill and you haven't There the entire time with that team and
• 1:10:38
  you kind of feel a little bit bad but I think the vast
• 1:10:41
  majority that feeling is missing out on the the team building
• 1:10:45
  that comes with going through an entire tear together.
• 1:10:48
  And so this is this is a good opportunity to do that for sure.
• 1:10:52
  Yeah, for sure I know some people who had missed different
• 1:10:55
  tiers in rating, like they came in and did a lot of progress
• 1:10:58
  with teams but like let's say they returned halfway through
• 1:11:02
  sanctum. Now they'll be able to run
• 1:11:04
  through Sanctum. And run through nausea with that
• 1:11:07
  team that they didn't get to run with before.
• 1:11:10
  So I'm looking forward to it. Of course, the Mythic plus I'm
• 1:11:12
  also looking forward to, I'm going to be trying to dive hard
• 1:11:15
  into that for the mountain, of course, teleports to Old World
• 1:11:19
  of dungeons being available at 20s.
• 1:11:22
  Seems very, very good for people who want to jump around.
• 1:11:26
  The world that said we're going to end today with a couple of
• 1:11:30
  interviews or not. Even a couple many interviews
• 1:11:34
  that happened between this Episode in our last episode,
• 1:11:37
  we're not going to cover them all.
• 1:11:38
  We have links to all of those interviews including a
• 1:11:41
  phenomenal interview. That is Spencer, did with the
• 1:11:45
  starting zone, do check out the show notes.
• 1:11:48
  But that said, let's pull out just like a couple of key things
• 1:11:52
  that we wanted to talk about live.
• 1:11:54
  What were some key points that you wanted to speak on?
• 1:11:57
  Yeah. So Morgan day and Ian has a
• 1:11:58
  Kostas for the ones that did these interviews with various
• 1:12:02
  various personalities and Outlets Morgan day.
• 1:12:05
  Had some interesting things to say at first, they're like, all
• 1:12:09
  the changes that they're going or that they're putting into the
• 1:12:12
  game with dragonflight, is the that they're aiming for future
• 1:12:17
  proofing, the game with with a lot of the changes that are
• 1:12:19
  coming in. So, all the changes that we're
• 1:12:21
  seeing around the talent trees, all the changes that we're
• 1:12:24
  seeing around the professions, all of those are being put into
• 1:12:28
  the game with the intent of making the game, something that
• 1:12:32
  they can continue to iterate on those systems.
• 1:12:35
  And Particular going forward into the future and not have to
• 1:12:39
  reinvent the wheel. Every time we come to a new
• 1:12:41
  expansion which I think is an utterly, fantastic thing.
• 1:12:44
  They're like 10 and a 10 knocked it out of the park.
• 1:12:47
  That's exactly what we want to hear.
• 1:12:48
  Hear and note that that Morgan gave on a voters.
• 1:12:52
  In particular is interesting because I think it does have a
• 1:12:56
  little bit of an implication as to what possible classes.
• 1:12:59
  We might see in the future, but the, the note that he gave on a
• 1:13:03
  bokors that one of the The the like the big thing that they
• 1:13:07
  bring to the table, when going into group content is that they
• 1:13:11
  are there to enhance the groups that they're joining.
• 1:13:14
  Like a lot of what they, what they have is, is augmenting
• 1:13:19
  their, their party or their raid team that that they're going in.
• 1:13:24
  And they're, they're kind of like a like a specialist class
• 1:13:28
  in that they're like, yes, they are DPS and healer like those
• 1:13:31
  are the roles that they feel. But beyond that the Niche that
• 1:13:36
  they fill. Whereas in like a for example
• 1:13:39
  like a warlock like is gonna be you know class that you bring
• 1:13:46
  almost almost purely for for DPS or you're bringing them for the
• 1:13:51
  the Warlock gate to be able to Traverse some tricky tricky
• 1:13:57
  terrain or or you know, get past a particular set of mobs like
• 1:14:01
  that you have utility for each of the classes that you're
• 1:14:04
  looking to bring the utility. That the invoker is bringing is
• 1:14:07
  just about buffing the party members that that the evoker is
• 1:14:12
  going into any, any group content with.
• 1:14:15
  So that was a cool note. And I think that that kind of
• 1:14:19
  opens the door a little bit more, two, more classes that are
• 1:14:23
  along those lines like maybe maybe a Bart, maybe in the
• 1:14:29
  future. Okay.
• 1:14:30
  Who do I want to sort of? Give my interpretation of what
• 1:14:35
  he was saying and sort of like counter to that.
• 1:14:38
  So when working day was talking about like what the Evoque is
• 1:14:42
  bringing that they enhance the rest of the party.
• 1:14:44
  I also think that Ian was saying a similar thing about like how
• 1:14:48
  the trees are built, how you can play in different ways.
• 1:14:51
  And how we see the trees actually reflected on the alpha,
• 1:14:55
  there is the ability to spec into a lot of things that are
• 1:14:59
  Utility that help out the party as an Enhancement Shaman for a
• 1:15:05
  point of view or just a shaman in general, I can drop down a
• 1:15:09
  totem. That reduces the knock-back that
• 1:15:11
  people have on their spells by 50% and reduces the time that
• 1:15:17
  their silence when they get interrupted by 50%.
• 1:15:21
  That is a huge Boon for a group of casters, a group of healers
• 1:15:25
  that I can put this point into that point might come out of
• 1:15:28
  something that it It just helped me.
• 1:15:30
  I can also as a shaman put points into Mana bring totem
• 1:15:36
  which will restore Mana if I'm an Enhancement Shaman, I'm not
• 1:15:39
  using Mana but I could put the points in to give Mana back to
• 1:15:43
  the Arcane Mage. That is going through their
• 1:15:46
  spend and build cycle or any of the healers that are going
• 1:15:49
  through and making sure that I'm dropping that every 45 seconds
• 1:15:52
  to help, keep up their Mana. If I am a vocre, they have a
• 1:15:56
  similar thing where there are excess Mana, they will give Mana
• 1:16:01
  to a nearby healer. So they'll be a man, a battery.
• 1:16:05
  But this is things that you have also seen in other classes like,
• 1:16:09
  Druids can it's not invocation innervate.
• 1:16:13
  Innervate drudes can innovate would be a big one and in that
• 1:16:17
  way, you can be very supportive, you can put down, wind Rush
• 1:16:22
  totem, 's and various support stuff, and put your points into
• 1:16:27
  that if you so choose to be a very Supportive build.
• 1:16:31
  But it doesn't mean you're suddenly going to do a Bard
• 1:16:32
  class that is nothing, but support the role doesn't exist.
• 1:16:38
  They would have to rearrange roles and but they could do a
• 1:16:41
  quote-unquote Bard build of even like let's say warrior where you
• 1:16:47
  just put so much into your shouts.
• 1:16:49
  That you're just constantly doing shouts to help somebody
• 1:16:52
  and somebody might call it a bird build.
• 1:16:54
  I'm not like I'm not saying that that's what the Bard would be,
• 1:16:57
  but I'm just saying that they are going to You allow classes
• 1:17:01
  to have a lot of support utility group, utility to shift, the
• 1:17:07
  shift, whatever role you are into a more supportive thing.
• 1:17:11
  Similarly, you can do builds where instead of being a pure
• 1:17:17
  throughput healer, you can opt to put points into damage and
• 1:17:22
  put out more damage, but you're going to be missing some of your
• 1:17:25
  throughput or some of your cooldowns or some of your other
• 1:17:28
  utility. Because you took points out of
• 1:17:30
  that into throwing out more damage.
• 1:17:34
  And it's like, okay, well now I can lava burst very heavily and
• 1:17:38
  I can do a strange melee build Resto Shaman is an actual thing
• 1:17:45
  that can be done and they're allowing those builds.
• 1:17:48
  And I think that is more along the lines of where they started
• 1:17:52
  with a vocre, it has been more realized in all these other
• 1:17:57
  classes, but they're shifting these other classes to do it.
• 1:17:59
  Volkers were built with it in mind.
• 1:18:02
  Yeah. And the last note on design
• 1:18:05
  philosophy, that Morgan day gave was about how their kind of
• 1:18:09
  structuring in the game and what that's going to look like on
• 1:18:14
  like, a day-to-day and week-to-week basis, they like,
• 1:18:17
  obviously, we don't, we don't know exactly what it's going to
• 1:18:19
  look like. We haven't, we have seen nothing
• 1:18:22
  of in game except for the heroic dungeons, that were available as
• 1:18:26
  of this week, but the, the shift there.
• 1:18:29
  Making is that they they noticed that their there was kind of a
• 1:18:34
  laundry list of things that you had to do every week.
• 1:18:38
  And they want to move away from that.
• 1:18:42
  They want to move away from having a huge list of things
• 1:18:45
  that you feel like you have to do and have just a large
• 1:18:49
  offering of things that you feel like you want to do not that you
• 1:18:52
  feel like you have to do in order to maximize your game
• 1:18:55
  time. So of course we'll have to wait
• 1:18:58
  and see. As to whether or not that is
• 1:19:01
  actually going to, you know, be something that is manifested in
• 1:19:06
  the design of the in-game of this expansion.
• 1:19:08
  But given how crafting is shaping up and how involved
• 1:19:14
  crafting is going to be in endgame?
• 1:19:17
  I, I am pretty confident at this point.
• 1:19:21
  That that's that is something that I I see happening.
• 1:19:27
  I see in game. Being something where there's
• 1:19:30
  there's not like a like, obviously we're going to have
• 1:19:34
  like the the push to do Mythic plus.
• 1:19:37
  We're gonna have to push to do rating and and that's that's not
• 1:19:41
  really going to change necessarily going forward into
• 1:19:45
  in a dragon flight, but we're not going to have what we saw at
• 1:19:48
  the beginning of this expansion where you had to go into tour
• 1:19:50
  gassed every week and do that. You had to go in and, you know,
• 1:19:54
  do do all your mod dailies in order to make tour gas too easy.
• 1:20:00
  and, Like we're not getting to see that happen as much or
• 1:20:09
  hopefully not see that happen at all.
• 1:20:11
  We're just going to have things on offer for us to be able to go
• 1:20:14
  do because we do know that there is going to be a big in-game
• 1:20:17
  open-world Zone that will be able to Traverse.
• 1:20:20
  It will have various challenges and activities to do in there.
• 1:20:25
  But hopefully it's not going to be something that feels
• 1:20:27
  mandatory but it will be something that feels rewarding
• 1:20:29
  for going out and doing it. Alongside with everything else
• 1:20:34
  that we have going on with Mythic plus rating, PVP
• 1:20:37
  crafting, the whole nine yards, i-i'm happy, that is not going
• 1:20:42
  to be a laundry list. The what Jaws would call?
• 1:20:46
  Wow, chores, where it's like I've got to do this.
• 1:20:48
  I've gotta do this, I gotta do this, just so I can feel strong
• 1:20:52
  enough to play with my friends. I'm really glad that they're
• 1:20:57
  doing away with that, my worried right now.
• 1:21:00
  And really, the reason that I want To test and game is because
• 1:21:04
  I don't want the stuff that I may want to do to become such
• 1:21:09
  tedious. Busy work that I bounced right
• 1:21:12
  off of it. This is a issue that they've had
• 1:21:15
  in shadowlands. Hopefully they're going to
• 1:21:17
  adjust it but even something. So basic as exploring the world,
• 1:21:23
  it used to be that I would find all those zones and I'd be okay
• 1:21:27
  and then they added Adventurer. So now I need to Find the zones
• 1:21:32
  and do all the quests and then that's good.
• 1:21:36
  But then they added in these Treasure Chest.
• 1:21:38
  So now I have to do all of my adventures and the things and
• 1:21:41
  it's like okay like like at some point it just becomes tediously
• 1:21:47
  complex busy work, going through some of the systems that are in
• 1:21:53
  nine point to where I want to get let's say just amount.
• 1:21:57
  Okay well I want to get them out and Me who's an invested player?
• 1:22:02
  Sure this is cool. I need to get this item here
• 1:22:05
  gather enough of these. Find this other item from here,
• 1:22:09
  and that'll get me a mount. All right?
• 1:22:11
  But then some of these items are only available once a week based
• 1:22:17
  on a drop chance for Yeti area. And then I can't imagine
• 1:22:21
  somebody who's like relatively new to the game or is it as
• 1:22:24
  invested a player as myself, going through the protoform
• 1:22:28
  synthesis and And making heads and tails of that.
• 1:22:32
  It just becomes a quick bounce off.
• 1:22:33
  And I know people who have been playing a game just as long as I
• 1:22:37
  have, who arched is taking a second, look at the game and
• 1:22:42
  that sort of stuff doesn't fly. So sure.
• 1:22:46
  We're not doing the tedious grind work, but I don't want the
• 1:22:50
  options available to be so Arcane that you need a degree
• 1:22:56
  just understand what you're supposed to do with it.
• 1:22:58
  And that that's what I Not, so we'll see needs to be tested.
• 1:23:02
  We'll go from there. But you also had pulled out some
• 1:23:06
  stuff from Ian's interviews that he's also had.
• 1:23:09
  So what are those ones? So if I should have put this at
• 1:23:13
  the top because it is probably the single most exciting thing
• 1:23:16
  that Ian had to say the entire the entire week and that's the
• 1:23:21
  group loot is quite very quite possibly coming back for raids,
• 1:23:27
  specifically, which is Huge, huge like basically, basically,
• 1:23:36
  we're not going to be completely and totally beholding to, to
• 1:23:40
  personal loot in raids in dragonflight which I had, I
• 1:23:45
  genuinely, genuinely hope that this is something that does
• 1:23:50
  actually make it into inner dragon flight.
• 1:23:53
  Because that, is that I cannot, I don't remember a time in this.
• 1:24:00
  Game that I was more frustrated with the way that the
• 1:24:05
  distribution happens in a raid in setting that I was with this
• 1:24:10
  expansion. It's just it's been basically
• 1:24:14
  since since Legion since we had personally which is actually now
• 1:24:18
  thinking back on it. Did we they didn't do Force
• 1:24:20
  personal loot until B fa B FX B. Fa was the worst in my mind,
• 1:24:25
  they've made making it progressively better.
• 1:24:28
  So shadowlands hasn't been as as frustrating or annoying but BFA
• 1:24:34
  had tied and forging. So you would have something that
• 1:24:36
  would jump up five levels above what you had equipped and can't,
• 1:24:39
  and you no longer can help your friend.
• 1:24:43
  I do want to say that raids doesn't include L FR.
• 1:24:46
  L FR has always been the forced personal loot.
• 1:24:50
  You have right as far as I recall.
• 1:24:54
  Yes, that's been the case so that's not going to change.
• 1:24:59
  I'm glad That like random people jumping into strange groups,
• 1:25:02
  with with people are going to be dealing with a group loot drama
• 1:25:05
  group lives are for organized groups, normal and up, and I
• 1:25:08
  think this will be great. Like he said through this, he
• 1:25:12
  was like, okay when you're coming together to defeat a boss
• 1:25:15
  and there's these pieces of lewd on a on the dragon.
• 1:25:19
  Let's say you kill a dragon in this piece of a little dragon.
• 1:25:22
  There's a camaraderie of handing it out.
• 1:25:25
  I have seen how groups like Timber more Tavern.
• 1:25:29
  Have their one person who's like, okay, this is up for
• 1:25:32
  grabs. Who wants this, who wants this,
• 1:25:33
  who wants this? And that is part of the system,
• 1:25:36
  and just be like, oh, it got that or oh, okay.
• 1:25:39
  This person needs it more. You know what you have it?
• 1:25:41
  That isn't part of camaraderie. And I'm really glad to see that
• 1:25:46
  happening. I do want to stress that group
• 1:25:48
  loot is not the same as master looter master later they didn't
• 1:25:52
  say what's coming back. They're not talking about that.
• 1:25:55
  Yeah, at this point and I'm fine with it.
• 1:25:57
  Group. Loot is Is there and any Guild
• 1:26:02
  that is anywhere near organized is obviously going to be able to
• 1:26:07
  Institute their own rules, whether it be dkp and stuff,
• 1:26:10
  with group root as the foundation.
• 1:26:13
  So there is that the next thing was touching on dragon writing
• 1:26:20
  and spelling a little bit of fear around it about dragon
• 1:26:25
  writing, being something that is going to be Like super difficult
• 1:26:31
  at first and and like you have have like a bunch of time
• 1:26:35
  getting around getting the the power ups for it.
• 1:26:38
  No, he came right out of the gate and said that you can get
• 1:26:43
  around very easily with dragon ready.
• 1:26:47
  And that's, that's been my experience with it.
• 1:26:49
  I did, like, I think through talking with you, I think that's
• 1:26:52
  been a pretty similar experience for you, as well as it like,
• 1:26:55
  after playing around with it for a couple hours.
• 1:26:57
  Like you feel like you have a pretty good hang on.
• 1:27:00
  Yeah, the biggest power gain is through your own Mastery of the
• 1:27:04
  buttons. You have not by getting extra
• 1:27:07
  Vigor, of course, the extra Vigor is going to increase how
• 1:27:10
  far you can go and the additional abilities that you'll
• 1:27:13
  gain will work. But the biggest power Gain Is by
• 1:27:17
  you learning what to do with your dragon writing?
• 1:27:20
  Yeah, the best analogy. I can think of is like, watching
• 1:27:27
  watching people play. Breath of the wild and not
• 1:27:31
  getting a single heart, upgrade, and going, and defeating Ganon
• 1:27:35
  like, is totally doable. It's like, obviously like dragon
• 1:27:40
  writing is going to be nearly like mastering.
• 1:27:43
  I should say mastering dragon writing isn't going to be nearly
• 1:27:45
  as difficult as doing something like that but it is like in that
• 1:27:50
  same Spirit of like it just takes a little bit of practice,
• 1:27:54
  little bit again, getting used to and understanding you know,
• 1:27:58
  had how the layout The land is how like your dragon writing
• 1:28:03
  interact with it is going to be the bulk of it.
• 1:28:08
  In also said that outdoor content is going to be a pretty
• 1:28:12
  big focal point of the the expansion, like obviously raids
• 1:28:16
  and Dungeons and PVP or like at always at the Forefront of
• 1:28:22
  everything that wow has to offer.
• 1:28:24
  But but the outdoor content is going to be Pretty, pretty
• 1:28:30
  sizable. And I hope what that means is
• 1:28:33
  that we're going to have outdoor content like sir Amar.
• 1:28:40
  I mean, it doesn't have to be like, Sir, Mark could be
• 1:28:43
  something different, but the fact that it is, Sheree focal
• 1:28:46
  point. The fact that there is going to
• 1:28:48
  be stuff to do outside of Dungeons and raids and instance,
• 1:28:52
  content is one of the biggest things that I'm glad to hear
• 1:28:57
  them. Say it's not something that we
• 1:28:58
  have seen thus far and that's not true.
• 1:29:03
  In our playthrough of the aster span there are were time to
• 1:29:07
  Dragon riding events. The bronze dragons.
• 1:29:09
  You Find and do those. And those were quite fun and in
• 1:29:13
  getting your bronze or silver or and they were talking about
• 1:29:17
  making those with leaderboards that you could crack.
• 1:29:20
  Like maybe top on the server top in your region that sort of
• 1:29:24
  thing I think would be a phenomenal as just challenged
• 1:29:29
  content. That is out there content that
• 1:29:31
  people are like, okay I'm going to sit down and I'm going to
• 1:29:33
  work on this and I'm going to get this as my very own Kessel
• 1:29:36
  Run as it were yes and And last thing is a quote that I pulled,
• 1:29:42
  from one of his interviews in which he was asked by mr.
• 1:29:47
  Geum about obeying up cross region play.
• 1:29:49
  And the quote was philosophically.
• 1:29:52
  We're trying to move more and more towards and interconnected
• 1:29:56
  World, which I just wanted to include.
• 1:29:59
  Because I think that's that's a good good goal to be heading
• 1:30:03
  towards and whether we'll see that this expansion towards you
• 1:30:08
  know it bullet any. In this expansion, dragonflight,
• 1:30:11
  or if it'll be something that we see in the distant future in
• 1:30:15
  maybe 12.0 of having flat, finally having the ability to
• 1:30:20
  play cross the region, you know, we'll see.
• 1:30:24
  We'll see. He definitely said in that same
• 1:30:27
  interview, that Regional things were a hardware issue where a
• 1:30:31
  sizeable thing to overcome. So I don't think it's something
• 1:30:34
  we're going to be seeing in 10-point anything, but yes,
• 1:30:38
  moving towards a more interconnected.
• 1:30:39
  It is a nice dream /, hope / platitude that said, I think one
• 1:30:46
  of the things that he said that was far more hardcore and is
• 1:30:49
  being realized in a much more fast.
• 1:30:53
  Thing is how alpha is progressing?
• 1:30:57
  It is much more focused testing. They are not just being like,
• 1:31:02
  Ok, We're going to open up one thing and then a little bit
• 1:31:04
  later. Okay, we'll open up another
• 1:31:06
  thing. We've gone through two weeks and
• 1:31:09
  they're already making good on this.
• 1:31:12
  We tested the Azure span we tested.
• 1:31:14
  Dragon riding, we tested the new Drac theater class as well as a
• 1:31:19
  couple of talent trees that they had put out there before this
• 1:31:23
  week. We've got a new talent tree
• 1:31:25
  which is being used, which is being Used with the philosophies
• 1:31:29
  and feedback that we had from the previous week's or ready,
• 1:31:32
  seeing a change. There we have two new Dungeons
• 1:31:35
  and they've closed off a lot of that out old stuff.
• 1:31:37
  We're not able to test Dragon riding this week.
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  We aren't able to test the Azure span, but we are able to test
• 1:31:45
  these two new dungeons. Those dungeons have gone through
• 1:31:48
  iteration. And what I played on Tuesday is
• 1:31:51
  completely different than what I played on Sunday at the
• 1:31:54
  recording of this time before I sat down, And recorded or ready
• 1:31:58
  have seen massive changes, the lock on which characters you
• 1:32:04
  could play. Hot fixed so that people could
• 1:32:06
  play their 61's or stuff, if they tripped into that level
• 1:32:11
  changes in order for professions and different things that have
• 1:32:15
  happened. Yes, it is still Alpha.
• 1:32:16
  I have had a character that has been unrecoverable in every week
• 1:32:21
  that I've played and it's only been two weeks, but they've been
• 1:32:25
  hot fixing and shifting things. So Ian said this and he is being
• 1:32:30
  very true about this. They are moving fast on this
• 1:32:34
  Alpha. They are being focused on the
• 1:32:36
  testing. They are listening to feedback
• 1:32:39
  that is no longer something that I'm like I hope he's going to be
• 1:32:41
  true about that. That is something that they are,
• 1:32:43
  the team is proving to be true and I'm hoping that will give
• 1:32:48
  some people a lot of Hope because this is not just wow,
• 1:32:52
  coming as a back to basic sort of thing back to its foundation.
• 1:32:57
  This is wow. In the most modern I've ever
• 1:32:59
  seen it, not even just with the slick new UI.
• 1:33:04
  And how that is that really does transform, pretty much
• 1:33:07
  everything you do. But in the way that they are
• 1:33:10
  approaching the development of the game and the philosophies
• 1:33:13
  that they have means that when you unlock dragon writing, you
• 1:33:17
  don't need to do it. Two more times on two different
• 1:33:20
  salts. Dragon, riding will be good.
• 1:33:22
  Account-wide. When you are setting up your
• 1:33:25
  talent trees, you can have them saved and I showed showed it to
• 1:33:29
  live just before we start streaming, okay, this is my aob
• 1:33:33
  build. This is my single Target build
• 1:33:34
  switched over to Elemental. Okay, I'm doing this.
• 1:33:37
  Oh okay, dungeon Q popped, let me switch back to this spec and
• 1:33:42
  pick the load out that I wanted and immediately I was set up and
• 1:33:46
  it all fell into my bars and I was ready to go.
• 1:33:48
  So they are being very good about this.
• 1:33:52
  You are not going to be tripping over yourself in order to do the
• 1:33:55
  things that you enjoying the game and You join the game is
• 1:33:59
  going to be available and accessible to you without
• 1:34:03
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• 1:34:07
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