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NBA DFS Process | DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Slate Breakdown | Monday, 01/05/26 · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 4: is you kind of took the worst out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, talk some hoops. Just excited to break it down
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  Speaker 2: Man. We got a nice slate.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, it's one of those slates where a lot of
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  Speaker 4: value is coming from one team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Denver, That's pretty much a story of the slate.
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  Speaker 2: I also gonna say, broad slate, you have all the value,
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  Speaker 2: which means you can spend up. But when you look
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  Speaker 2: at the spend ups the highest player on the slate,
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  Speaker 2: it's only ten point five K, three guys above ten K,
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  Speaker 2: and then the rest below. So when you have all
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  Speaker 2: that value but only limited spends, it kind of leads
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people the similar build. So I'm excited
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  Speaker 2: when we go through to see if we can get
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  Speaker 2: away from the chalk build. If you eat it and
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  Speaker 2: get different, it's still NBA chalk is good like it's
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  Speaker 2: chalk for a reason, and projections are most accurate in
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  Speaker 2: terms of NBA easiest to project, twenty four second shot clock,
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  Speaker 2: this and that. But yeah, there's still six games slate,
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  Speaker 2: eight games on FanDuel. I will mention two ten Eastern
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  Speaker 2: games Portland, Utah Clippers and Golden State. Hardens questionable, So
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  Speaker 2: that is a big piece of news for the FanDuel slate. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: after that, it's a pretty light injury report and I
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  Speaker 2: would not like backload by any means for that hardened
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  Speaker 2: news on FanDuel. I think it just makes it pretty
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  Speaker 2: tough or tougher to play him if you have a
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  Speaker 2: lean but he is a pretty strong play at only
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  Speaker 2: ninety three hundred. We won't break down those last two games,
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  Speaker 2: but I know some people do play fan duel. Interesting
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  Speaker 2: note there, but yeah, DraftKings, any broadslide overview or anything. No,
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  Speaker 2: but you do.
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  Speaker 3: I like the point you brought up a herd and
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  Speaker 3: not FanDuel.
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  Speaker 4: Like the game theory of him being a good play
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  Speaker 4: that will likely be under owned if he plays, and
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  Speaker 4: like there isn't much to swap to if he's out,
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  Speaker 4: but like that's why people won't play him, So I
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  Speaker 4: like the game three aspect of that. As far as
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  Speaker 4: dek goes, Yeah, it's kind of everything you said, Like
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  Speaker 4: it's the Denver value and it's not even like there
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  Speaker 4: are there are like a few spend up options even
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  Speaker 4: though they aren't expensive, but one of them, Jalen Johnson,
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  Speaker 4: is just going to be like the guy everyone goes
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  Speaker 4: to for good reason because he's too cheap, and he's
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  Speaker 4: been too cheap.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm with you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited to talk this slight out in terms of
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  Speaker 4: like how can we get a little bit different because yeah, NBA,
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  Speaker 4: you're definitely gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Be playing popular players throughout your lineup. It's certainly for.
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  Speaker 4: Me more about like lineup construction than like players themselves,
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  Speaker 4: because you don't want to be on an island in
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  Speaker 4: NBA like with one or two guys getting different.
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  Speaker 2: It's about all you need.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll see where we can find a couple
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  Speaker 3: of spots.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And this is not updated. Let's see
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  Speaker 2: if sabers no, they don't. Ownership is not correct, projections
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  Speaker 2: are not correct. Maybe that'll get updated for for Denver throughout,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, what it's gonna be is a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the reason that then, like the the Kate Cunningham, the SGA,
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  Speaker 2: why they're little ower on the Jalen Johnson is because
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  Speaker 2: there's so much guard value for Denver Straw their pick
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  Speaker 2: and Bruce Brown, and it's just and Jail Johnson's been
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  Speaker 2: so good, don't get me wrong, but that's why I
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  Speaker 2: do think Jalen Brown even a little cheaper than.
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  Speaker 3: The combination of the two.
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  Speaker 4: It's all the den it's like the positions of the
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  Speaker 4: Denver guys, but also Jalen Johnson's like fifty sixty percent
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  Speaker 4: on every slate he's on.
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  Speaker 2: Now, yeah he is. I mean it's crazy, and I
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  Speaker 2: like it because every time I see that name as
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  Speaker 2: a is a cash player, mainly, it feels so safe,
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  Speaker 2: like he's just he can get there in so many ways.
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  Speaker 2: But man, I just remember last year. I mean, since
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  Speaker 2: he's gotten the league, he's always he's done great. So
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  Speaker 2: his price kind of caught up too fast for people
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  Speaker 2: to be comfortable with it and used to get them
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  Speaker 2: super low and on a lot of nights with this upside,
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  Speaker 2: especially when when Ty was in Yep, exactly what Tray
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  Speaker 2: was in. People were the value point per dollar. He
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  Speaker 2: you're having a great day. All right, let's talk some Knicks,
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  Speaker 2: talk some Detroit Pistons. One and a half point favorites
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  Speaker 2: are the New York Knicks two thirty one and a
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  Speaker 2: half total in this one, which is pretty solid. It's
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  Speaker 2: also worth noting there's a lot of big spreads on
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  Speaker 2: this slate. We got a ten and a half, an
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  Speaker 2: eight and a half, a fifteen and a half, a
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  Speaker 2: fourteen and a half, so we have two of them
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  Speaker 2: pretty close or two of them close, two and a half,
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  Speaker 2: one and a half, and after that it's pretty spread out. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't look at that too too much in NBA,
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  Speaker 2: but it is worth noting if games get out of hand,
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  Speaker 2: you can lose a couple minutes, and that does go
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  Speaker 2: a long way injury report wise for the Knicks, no
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  Speaker 2: Josh Hart still for Detroit. No Jalen Duran, no Tobias Harris,
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  Speaker 2: Kris Lavert quit or doubtful. Excuse me, Kerris Slivert doubtful
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  Speaker 2: any interest on some of these pistons. Definitely going to
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  Speaker 2: get some ownership slash, a lot of ownership on Paul Reid,
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  Speaker 2: he'll be one of the most popular. Then Kate Cunningham's
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  Speaker 2: to spend. But outside of that, like this again, this
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  Speaker 2: isn't updated, Stuart Jenkins, they won't be this high owned
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  Speaker 2: A lot will go to the Denver stuff. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: take it away Nick's pistons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no, I'm like right there with you.
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  Speaker 4: The two guys in this game that are worth talking
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  Speaker 4: about or Paul Reid and then Kay Cunningham. So Reid
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  Speaker 4: looks like very Dayron Sharpish from the other night in
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  Speaker 4: terms of his price point just being way too low
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  Speaker 4: starting at center. I don't like him as much as
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  Speaker 4: I did Sharp the other night whatever, a couple of
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  Speaker 4: nights ago, whenever that was. But at thirty eight hundred,
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  Speaker 4: he looks like one of, if not the top value
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  Speaker 4: play on the slate, even over the Denver guys. So
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  Speaker 4: he looks like certainly a cash game lock. I mean
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  Speaker 4: he's a guy like I mentioned the other day with
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  Speaker 4: Sharp that he would be like, you know, eighty percent
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  Speaker 4: in the eight eighty eight.
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  Speaker 3: That night he ended up being.
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  Speaker 2: Like ninety six percent.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think, Yeah, I don't think Reid gets there,
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  Speaker 4: but I do think he gets to like eighty percent.
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  Speaker 4: So like, I think there's more merit long, long winded
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  Speaker 4: way of me saying, I think there's more Mayor to
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  Speaker 4: fade Read tonight than there was Sharp the other night
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  Speaker 4: because of how much value is on this slate. That
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  Speaker 4: being said, he does look like the best or one
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  Speaker 4: of the best values on the slate, and there's less
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  Speaker 4: opportunity costs at center now with you know, Jokic not
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  Speaker 4: being there. So yeah, Reid looks amazing in all formats,
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  Speaker 4: everything except the ownership.
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  Speaker 3: And then Kid Cunningham.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned a great point about why he's not like
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  Speaker 4: Chalky because of the guard position, but it's still easy
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  Speaker 4: enough to get there on this slate with so much
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  Speaker 4: value that he's certainly in play, not building around him.
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  Speaker 4: But if I end up landing on Caid, certainly not
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  Speaker 4: mad about it.
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  Speaker 3: Reads the only priority for me though, for sure?
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  Speaker 2: Do you prefer Kid or SGA at choosing.
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  Speaker 4: So me personally, I like SGA more tonight because I
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  Speaker 4: think Kid is going to be higher owned, and I
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  Speaker 4: think Charlotte can be.
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  Speaker 3: Competitive in this spot.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of just a gut feel there more than anything
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  Speaker 4: else I've seen from them recently in spots, So I'm
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  Speaker 4: kind of banging on that as my GPP route to
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  Speaker 4: go tonight. So me personally, SGA.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I just want to sort by the
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  Speaker 2: center position to kind of show what you're saying when
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  Speaker 2: you don't play Paul Reid, like Joel Embiid is the
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  Speaker 2: second highest point per dollar center on the slate, So
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  Speaker 2: it's almost what's telling me if I'm not playing Paul Reid,
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  Speaker 2: I'm probably playing Embiid, Vooch or Cat and just spending
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  Speaker 2: up and flipping the bill. Because if you're looking at
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  Speaker 2: other value, like who's around three point ak that has
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  Speaker 2: any bit of a same projection, we have three point
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  Speaker 2: ak Paul Reid for thirty you got to go to
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  Speaker 2: Zeke Nause three point five K for fifteen points, like
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  Speaker 2: half the amount of points. Otherwise you're in this five
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  Speaker 2: K range, which I don't hate, but I think I
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  Speaker 2: would rather just let me flip the bill. Let me
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  Speaker 2: get embid who's projected for forty seven, but you know
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  Speaker 2: he has sixty plus upside, and then you hope Paul
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  Speaker 2: Reid gets like a twenty four And then the positions
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  Speaker 2: just flipped a little differently that way. So probably wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: play two centers if I'm fading Paul Reid and I'm
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  Speaker 2: probably spending up again. This is more handbuild stuff, Like
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  Speaker 2: I like what you mentioned. If you're in the eight
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  Speaker 2: eighty eight versus the flag ship today, the five dollars
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  Speaker 2: or whatever the big one is today, like you should
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  Speaker 2: be running different ownership at least manually changing stuff like
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  Speaker 2: in your head or something to look like look at
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  Speaker 2: on sabersim right, because people get way higher, Like you said,
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  Speaker 2: ninety six, that's a that's a different game you're playing.
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  Speaker 2: Kenny talks about it a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you make some really really good points there,
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  Speaker 4: Like I couldn't agree more with you about like the
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  Speaker 4: flipping the build scenario here, because if you're not playing
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  Speaker 4: Paul Reid, there's no one in hits price range that's
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  Speaker 4: going to project as well. Could you get a score
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  Speaker 4: from someone that's like that beats Paul reach shirt because
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  Speaker 4: that weird stuff happens. But there's nothing in projections that
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  Speaker 4: would make you want to do that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm okay with the five K range.
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  Speaker 4: Also, like Cata is fine, but at that point probably
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  Speaker 4: just rather spend down on Reid. So I love that point.
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  Speaker 4: Just couldn't emphasize that anymore. That all being said, I
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  Speaker 4: think you just play read and move on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I will have a ton of Paul Reid. Again,
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  Speaker 2: center is not great anyway. What about Clint Cappella. It's
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  Speaker 2: seen a couple of people mentioned Capella. He's four K,
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  Speaker 2: He's like the next cheapest. He has a nineteen projection. Again,
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  Speaker 2: just game theory wise, if I knew nothing, we talk
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: about dfs. It's a fantasy game. It's a process. Like
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: some of the best players don't know shit about their sport.
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  Speaker 2: You can add value to it, but just someone that
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  Speaker 2: would like if I didn't know anything, I'd see a Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and more and I'm giving up eleven points
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  Speaker 2: in projections, So just that alone makes it tough for me.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, Baltimore, you can add value to it,
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  Speaker 4: but it could also be a detriment thinking you know
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  Speaker 4: too much. Always you know what I mean, because it
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  Speaker 4: just goes to everything you said. For me, Capella is
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  Speaker 4: a no Like I'm not playing Compella over Paul Reid.
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  Speaker 4: I'll find ways to get different other than other than that,
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  Speaker 4: that is not a stand or a hill I'm going.
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  Speaker 2: To die on. Yeah, I like it, And I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: play both together too, because again, we have so much
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  Speaker 2: Denver value, you're just giving up a lot in my VI.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and again to your point, like I'm playing three
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  Speaker 4: lineups tonight in like five five five, Like if I'm
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  Speaker 4: playing that five dollars, like maxing the five dollars, I
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  Speaker 4: got no issue with being like over on Capella and
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  Speaker 4: under on Paul Reid.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just a different scenario, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: That makes sense. And when you play Capella, your lineup
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  Speaker 2: should look a lot different than when you play Paul Reid.
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  Speaker 2: You can play every single Denver value, play Cage Jame
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  Speaker 2: whatever you want, because you already did something to get
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  Speaker 2: different and personally.
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  Speaker 4: Like even still, if I were maxing the one fifty,
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  Speaker 4: that is still not a hill, I would want to
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  Speaker 4: die on. Like I don't really want Cappella over Paul
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  Speaker 4: read here. I think there are plenty other ways to
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  Speaker 4: get different.
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  Speaker 2: One percent agree. So nothing on the Nick side. You said,
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  Speaker 2: just just Paul reading kid in this game and move on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Brunson is like a you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: never gonna saint Brunson's not in play, but again, not
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  Speaker 4: a guy I'm building around.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, makes a lot of sense. All right, let's keep
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  Speaker 2: it rolling. Next game on the slate, the Boston Celtics
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  Speaker 2: and the Chicago Bulls ten and a half point favorites
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  Speaker 2: are the Celtics two thirty six and a half total.
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  Speaker 2: No injuries to talk about on the Boston side. Chicago
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  Speaker 2: no Josh Giddy, No Jalen Smith. Jaye Smith was playing
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  Speaker 2: pretty good basketball man. When he gets the minutes, He's
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: a fantasy point per minute monster. Mantes bazulis absolutely owning
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: Jalen Suggs. We got vouch. Yeah, what are your thoughts?
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: I know, big spread in this one, but a decent
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: amount of these have big spreads. Seeing a couple guys
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  Speaker 2: showing over five x value. Anything appealing for you in
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  Speaker 2: this one?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? So Kobe White is back for the Bulls, which
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: kind of muddy things up a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned Jalen Smith being out I think just because
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: of how.
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  Speaker 4: This slate is playing out, there's more secondary plays than
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: anything for me from this game. First off, I'll start
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: with this expensive guy though, in Jalen Brown.
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  Speaker 3: He's expensive. You know, ninety eight hundred is a hefty
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  Speaker 3: tag for Jalen Brown. But I like the way he's
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  Speaker 3: playing right now.
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  Speaker 4: Man, he's like come out and talked about how he's
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: the best two way player in the league, and like
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: he just dropped fifty on Kawhi.
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  Speaker 3: Is a good matchup.
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  Speaker 4: Like, he's a guy where I think you can spend
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  Speaker 4: up to be contrarian a little bit. It's not like
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be unowned, but he's not going to be
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  Speaker 4: nearly his own as like Jalen Johnson for instance. Not
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: saying playing him over Jalen Johnson, but you know, you
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  Speaker 4: could potentially play them together.
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  Speaker 3: Not a lot of people will do.
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  Speaker 4: That, And I don't know, like I'm willing to on
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: this slate spend up to be contrarian, not building around him,
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  Speaker 4: but I do like the idea of getting to him
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  Speaker 4: in tournaments from the Chicago side. Again kind of muddied here.
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  Speaker 4: Boose a list Shark six K. I don't love it.
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  Speaker 4: With Kobe White. Like Kobe White himself. Six K is
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: also interesting, more secondary place for me from Chicago and
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: probably for me personally, too difficult to identify which guy
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I really want to play in only three lineups, so
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: I probably won't get to anything from Chicago and from
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Boston it's really only JB and Cata.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is definitely one of the least appealing games
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. I do think ownership reflects that. Again,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: we need everything updated. But you might see, like just
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: like one guy above fifteen percent, and I do think
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: that is Jalen Brown. You have the money to spend.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: You definitely do have the money to spend on two
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: studs if you would like. He is the forward instead
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: of guard where there's a little less value and he
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: and he's been awesome, like thirty eight percent usage. Ra
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: gett into the line a bunch. Yeah, like you said,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: he's he's feeling himself. I think he's on these like
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: live streams with some of these kids like talking about it. Yeah,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: he's feeling himself without Tatum, so nine point ak it
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: feels expensive for him, but in this I think it's
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: appropriately priced. Derek White's also another one that's expensive. But
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: got about him, Yeah, he just he has those ceiling games.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: If you're gonna play a lot of minutes, you can
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: shoot a lot of threes, you can get hot. He's
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: shown that he can have these fifty plus games. So
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I think he'll be relatively owned and or because ownership
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: will be in check. Eight K is kind of expensive,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: but again with guard position, with all the value we have,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: guard position keeps his ownership down a bit. All the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: value makes it easy to overspend or something on a
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: guy like that. I do prefer the side more than
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: it's probably bizellous or nothing. Really, I don't like Vouch
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: as much. I prefer Kat or m beat or just
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: go Paul Reid. I guess you have a take on
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: food trying to find other centers.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I Vouch is not a guy I play often
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: just because of his price point and the opportunity cost
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: center tonight, it's probably.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Gonna be a similar story for me.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Like Jalen Smith being out, I guess helps him, but
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: they were both starting together.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I don't love the matchup.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And honestly, like how I like to look at
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: it a lot of times, like when breaking it down,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: if I were playing one lineup tonight, just handbuilding one lineup.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Very likely I wouldn't get to anything from this game.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I like it. That's a great way to put it
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: and helps a lot of people out there. If it
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: was me, I it'd probably just be Derek White or
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown or nobody. But if I did land on
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: one of those two, I would be would be fine
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: with that. All right, We'll keep a roller next game
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: on the slates Atlanta Hawks and the Toronto Raptors. Move
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: that over. We're looking at two and a half point
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: favorites are the Raptors two thirty four and a half
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: total injuries on the Atlanta side. Still no Trey Young
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: going to the Toronto side, No Yaka Pertle. Looking at
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: some ownership, well again it's not all updated. Let's sort
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: by projection. You see the big the big four Wow,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: quickly Ingram Scottie, RJ. Barrett, all showing to have the
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: best point per dollar value in this game. Definitely interested
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: to hear your take on rules between these four. All
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: the prices look fine, but I always do I hesitate
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: a little bit clicking these guys, especially more than one,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: just because like I think we need upside from these
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: mid tier upper tier guys on this late five or
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: six x something like that, and they all eat into
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: each other a little bit. But yeah, I really cans
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: hear your take there. I think Jalen Johnson's strong, though,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: then curious to hear your takes on some of these Nikhil,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Alexander Walkers, Dyce and daniels A kung Wu's who look
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to be a little maybe overpriced at least that projection,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: but I think have clear upside and definitely will be
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: low owned.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I really, I really want to fad this
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: game in tournaments like It's hard though, because Jalen Johnson
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: right now continues to project as one of the best
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: value plays on every slate he's on at ten K,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: and he's like under projected everywhere and still projected for
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: crazy amounts of ownership.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: And it's going to be the same, same, same thing
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: to night at ten K and the same matchup he
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: was in a couple of nights ago.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I hate these back to back spots where the team
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: plays each other as far as the Toronto side goes, Like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I'm with you in that it's difficult to like pinpoint
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: at any given night who it's gonna be in this
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: type of matchup. I think any and all are in play.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I don't have specific rules, you know, personally because I'm
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: not playing one point fifty and with Barrett now back
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: to playing thirty plus minutes, the waters are muddied now
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: in this spot. I think at their price points, you
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: could play any of them, but I don't think any
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: of them are.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Must plays, if that makes sense.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: The only guy that I would say is a priority
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: from this game is Jalen Johnson. I do think because
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: of the ownership that he's gonna garner and you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: the ownership that just this game is gonna get. Like,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: there are ways to get away from it in tournaments,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: at least, that's what I'm gonna tell myself.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think you definitely can. The reason is
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: again with Barrett Barnes ingram quickly, I was just trying
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to like game log watch and stuff. But like there's
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of time that they're just in the like
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: they both get five X, they get right around there.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: It's nothing that it doesn't bear you, but it isn't
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: getting you to the top. And at the end of
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: the day, with how top heavy tournaments are, nowadays, you
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: want to get to the top. Fifth place isn't fun
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: too many nights. So if I was handbuilding, I'm probably
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: not gonna manually click more than one of these guys.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And if I click one, it's they just kind of
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: are fitting in the last piece. And if that's the case,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I'm more likely probably just click the cheapest one. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: guess I don't love it, But I also play a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: different game in you like you're playing three teams. If
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I play tonight, I'm playing cash. If I do tournaments,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I'll play the big boys, like the five dollars that's
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the thing today or that, And then I'm building a
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: whole portfolio. I'm looking at percentages, and if I think RJ.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Barrett's eighteen percent, I have forty five, I manually bump
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: them down. If I like twenty eight, and I'm like
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: kind of close on all those guys, then I don't
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: touch it. Or if I hardly have any I don't
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: touch it either because I don't have a strong stance.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I just make sure that I don't have a huge
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: overweight stance. But yeah, I'm curiously rio. I know I
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: think he's at the gym watching, but I think if
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I a guest has ruled the next two of the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: four on these guys, but I could be wrong. What's
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on Colin Murray Boyles? Again, we didn't mention
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: he does that power forward eligibility, but trying to find
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: like a jeepish center.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: You want to know my real thoughts on Colin Murray Boyles.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I dud I hate him right now because at
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: seven twenty nine, like whenever Slate they were on last
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: came out that he was starting at center. I made
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: a swap. It was like a small contest because I
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: think football is on that day must have been Saturday,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: but I swapped out Luke Cornett and someone else for
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Murray Boyles and PJ.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Hall.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Cornett went for fifty Night. Murray Boyles was awful.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so certainly that he's not on my good side,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: But all kidding aside, I think he's like a fine
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: filler piece starting again. You know, presumably I don't have
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: like a strong take on him per se, like fine
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: playing him at forty two hundred, but like the price
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: is probably where it should be, so I think he's
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: just a play And as far as like just adding.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: On to your points about Toronto.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: The cheapest guy is Barrett because his price probably hasn't
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: caught up to like the now back to normal ish role,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: so I think he looks the best from a value perspective.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: My favorite would be Scottie Barnes at eighty three hundred.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: But I'm with you, like in any one lineup, it's
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: difficult to pick out which guys you want from Toronto.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: And you know, if I were playing one fifty, I'm
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: not sure I would set a rule of only two.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: But if I were handbuilding, which you know, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: a few lineups or whatever, there's no way I would
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: get to old two and any lineup.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I agree with that for sure. I'd never make the
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: rules in that aspect. And then if I'm getting more
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: than two, I'm probably hoping I'm getting like at least
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: two Hawks in it, and you just hope to like
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: think ot or something like that we've seen. I don't
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: play for it like that, but saber Sim's correlation I
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: assume bakes into that a little bit if it was
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: clicking three hawks. And again I do tell you.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I do think it's sorry to cut you off, but
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: just on that point, like there is a lot of
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: positive correlation that people like don't account for an NBA.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: You know, I know there's that negative correlation because only
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: one guy can get like a bucket, But there's so
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: much positive correlation in terms of like how the game's going.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Look at Boston versus the Clippers the other night, Like
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Jalen Brown and Derek White both had like sixty fantasy points.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: The Clippers did nothing because Boston scored like one thirty.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Like that's not gonna happen every night. But there is
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of positive correlation that I firstly think is
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: unaccounted for.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I think that makes a lot of sense agreement. It's
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: it's hard to like if you get it wrong, the
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: floor could be low. But yes, it's a really fast
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: tempo game when neither team's playing defense and every SHOT's falling.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: You can gain extra ten possessions whatever it may be,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: which adds a lot of that. And one guy makes
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: a bucket, one guy gets an assist, Two guys can
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: get the same point or point for the same outcome, and.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: It goes back to the point you just made a
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: couple of minutes ago. I wanted to get to all
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: the way to the top of tournaments like and you
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: know again, you don't want to be on an island
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: in NBA, But I do think that there are again
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: kind of like how I put it, and I like
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: how you broke it down. So yeah, this game is
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: gonna get ownership. I don't think any one player from
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Toronto is like crazy popular, but I do think they
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: all get a little bit of love, except quickly, just
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: because he's point guard, and then Jalen Johnson running it
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: back on the other side pretty easy. I'm looking at
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: ways to get away from it, but it does look really,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: really good from a projection standpoint.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Last one Sandro, I mean, I guess what my question is,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: what is his minutes projection in this one? We're seeing
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: twenty three here. Last game he played thirty one. He
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: was I want to say, yeah, I mean, like, that's
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: what I'm like. If that twenty three minutes is twenty eight,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: sign me up for Mom like I love playing Mom
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: point per minute. Monster can can fill it up quick,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: but again it's it's just center. If it center with
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Paul Reid and then the spend ups, you don't just
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: want five x like I probably want him to get
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: me like thirty five almost he's projected five less than
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Paul Reid at like fifteen hundred difference to put it
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: that way, But what minutes do you think and what's
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on him before we get to the next game.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't projected for like twenty two and a
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: half minutes, so like right around there. And yeah, listen,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: if you are still powerfulward eligible, it'd be much more enticing.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: I don't really think you can do it at center,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: you know, one point fifty set, you know, entries aside,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Like if your max at five dollars, certainly you can
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: get to a little bit of him, But like if
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: you're handbuilding the lineups, I don't think you can play
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: him three center with you know, yeah, he played a
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: ton last game because he was really really good, but
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: that's not guaranteed.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Unless he's starting again all of a sudden.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: If he moves back into the starting lineup, which we've
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: seen a few times, then I think he becomes in
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: play at least not a must play obviously because you've
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: got Paul Reid, but I do think that at that
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: point a lot of lineups will be Sondra and Paul Reid.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that that makes sense. I like that good, good,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: shout again the thing is last thing before you get
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: to the next game. Five point two k is cheat.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: But with Paul Reid and then all the Denver stuff
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: we have, it's like it's like lower mid tier on
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: this slate, so you really need him to do something.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: He's like priced out of the slate because's just how
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: it's constructed.
• 27:43
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• 27:48
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• 27:50
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• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Jalen Charlotte's side, no Kelk Brenner. That is all I'm
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: seeing there. This game looks overpriced, but that's going to
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: keep ownership low for sure. I guess you mentioned at
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: a couple of years back you think Charlotte can compete,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: and if they can compete, I think this is a
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: spot where these guys are underprojected in minutes and then
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: that leads to underprojected in fantasy points. If they do
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: get a relatively competitive game, for four quarters. So yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: you think that's the case, right, and then you have
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: to have some interest.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am at least telling myself that story. I
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: think you really said it best.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: We talked about how this game is just overpriced for
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: how it's being projected. But if Charlotte can keep this
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: game close and again it's okay see on the second
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: half of a back to back traveling back home like this,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: then everyone here is underprojected. And you know, starting from
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: the OKC side where you ask me originally you know,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Shay or or Ca. I'm gonna say Shay there because
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: of how I think this slate has potential to be
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: a really GPP type of slate, and you know it's
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: not often. Like again, I said earlier that you don't
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: want to be on an island in NBA, and I
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: guess this is kind of me being on an island
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: because this game is going to be really low owned.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: But I think there's a ton of upside here if
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: this game can stay competitive, and again it goes back
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: to it just being underprojected. So from the Charlotte side,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: little wary of LaMelo Ball because he was creeping towards
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: thirty minutes the past two games only twenty six minutes.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: That said, both those games were the front handed first
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: half of the second half of a back to back,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: So now you get him on a little bit of
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: an island spot. Maybe he goes back to the thirtieth minutes.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Brandon Miller really like him here. He's my favorite piece
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: of Charlotte at seven k gonna be basically unowned. Went
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: into halftime of his last game with like ten Fantasy points,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: came out of the other side with like forty five
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: forty something like that.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Big fan of his game.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I think that if Charlotte is competitive here, it's on
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: the back of Miller, LaMelo, Miles, Bridges. Those guys are
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: gonna be all unowned. It's kind of like the mid
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: tier expensivest build, and I like them here. I think
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: you can play like a couple of those guys with
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Shay with the good Jalen Williams with Chet. I think
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: there's routes for all those guys getting here. Certainly, this
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: game has blought potential because it's okay see, and if
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: it plays out how it's projected, you're not gonna win tournaments.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: That's really all that matters here.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: But if it plays out any other way, I think
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: you got a good chance to get to the top.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: So I'm certainly gonna allocate one two of my lineups
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: to that story plan out.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I like it. Yeah, and a slate that looks very
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: chalky with Denver value, Paul Reid and condensed that way
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: with Jalen Johnson and certain spends. This game is definitely
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: a way you can get different. And if you do
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: play this game, I would eat that other chalk because
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: you're already doing something in your lineup to get different.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: It also goes back to a point you made early on,
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: like when I talked about dairon Sharp and the nineties
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: six percent and you went back to it and you're like,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: you're playing a different game at that point, and you
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: are so even at the ownerships now, I think that again,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: they're a good plays tonight, but I think that it's
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: not like the most stable chok.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of flimsy chalk here. So I do
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: think this is the slate for it. And in tournaments, like.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Not in tournament specifically, but in like the five five
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: to five, like more expensive buy ins and stuff, the
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: chalk is just going to be even more condensed. So again,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: you're playing a little bit of a different game, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: with flimsy ish chalk.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I'm willing to take some stands against it.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I love that. Know what contest you're playing in,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: know the people. I've been in the poker streets a lot.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Half the game I've learned at the hard way. A
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: little bit. Half the game is obviously playing poker the
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: right way, but half of it's playing the person. If
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: you know this person isn't gonna fold to a bluff,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: then why are you burning off the money? If you
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: know that people people in this five point fifty five
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: of this Paul Reid's ninety five percent, he's sixty percent
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: in the other tournament. That's a whole different ball game
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: you're playing because all those ninety five Paul Red teams,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, all right, they're spending up and playing stars
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: and scrubs more. Maybe the Denver values a little less
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: or and beat has to be way less at center
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: because there's only one center spot and you can just
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: leverage and build your tournament out that way.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Or what if all of a sudden sandro starting after lock.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I to be honest, I don't even think that
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: would change much in terms of ownership, like on Paul Reid.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: No, I'm saying like all of a sudden, like you know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: a lot of people wouldn't be able to get there
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: before they already have Paul re locked.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, that way for sure. He has to be
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: very low on because you can only play two centers max.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Great call there, So yeah, little little things like that.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: My question for you would like, if you're playing SGA
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: or jale Williams or Chet, would you like force yourself
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: to play a Brandon Miller Bridges or someone on Charlotte
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: hoping it stays competitive or are you just finding like
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Charlotte can silk play or be competitive if they have
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: enough guys where they can still all just do fine,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: not be optimal. So I don't need to do that
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: route and I can play like an SGA by himself
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: or chat. What are your thoughts on that?
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: So I'm not forcing like Charlotte back if I'm playing
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: a guy from Oka see Shay, maybe a little bit
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: because he's so expensive. The other two are a little
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: bit cheaper so easier to play, So like, I don't
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: think you have to force them. It is difficult with
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Okay see though, because they blow out so many teams,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: so like naturally it makes you want to play someone
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: from Charlotte if you play someone from okay See. For me,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: I like like the Charlotte side and tournament, so it's
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: not even a question for me. But you know, if
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: you weren't taking that stand, No, I don't think you
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: have to play someone from Charlotte if you're playing from
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: someone from okay See. I also don't think you have
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: to play anyone from okay See, presuming that you're going
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: on the okay See just roles here. In that case,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I think you're looking at potentially like a Brandon Carlson
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: at forty one hundred, who could see extra run if
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Oka see role Charlotte and at the end of the day,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: like it's Charlotte, Like it's not going to be a
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: shocker to me if they get blown out here. I'm
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: just kind of taking the other stand because we're playing
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: an ownership game here for sure.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Quick thoughts on FanDuel, A lot of this has been
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the same DraftKings and FanDuel. Again. The last two games
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel ten Eastern are on the FanDuel slate and
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: not on DraftKings slate and Harden's questionable, which again, if
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: he's out, you don't really have many pivots. If we
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: knew he was in, he would be pretty strong at
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: point guard shooting guards to do with that, which you will,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: which will lead to Kawhi getting more ownership, But Paul
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Reid's still the Chalk center gonna be very highly owned.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: You could just play one center and then the Denver value,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and then from there are you playing SGA? Are you
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: playing Jalen Johnson Jalen Brown? Like it's a very similar
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: slate that way for this game below, and I do
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: think SGA maybe a little higher round on FanDuel with
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: just being point guard eligible. There's only one in jal
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: and Pickett. He'll be popular point guard for the Nuggets,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: but I think those two will probably be the most
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: popular because if we don't have hardened news, people will
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: just naturally go SGA as a spend up there. So
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: now otherwise it's pretty similar. It's similar to me.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: The big difference for me is that Utah Portland game, honestly,
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: because I do think that even though prices are up, like,
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: that's a really good game from a DFS perspective, So
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Denny looks really good on FanDuel. I mean, all the
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Portland guys look good, continue to look good.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Portland's a team.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: We want to target in DFS right now, both from
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: their team and the team they're playing. And then Utah
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: is the same way. Like, heyontay George. So I kind
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: of take back what I said earlier about their not
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: being pivots for Harden, because there are, because you got
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: guys from that game, which I think might be the
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: best overall game on the slate, like talking about it
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: out loud here. If that game we're on DraftKings, there
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: would be big ownership on Denny and maybe just Denny,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: but the Utah guys would look good in tournaments.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Kawhi might you see? Yeah, he seems
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: to be under price. So yeah, fandle that stuff. Like
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the thing with Harden, you do have the pivot Keante,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: you'll leave four hundred, you're giving up like five projection points.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: It's not your favorite out to do it. But yeah,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: the last two games on FANDOR are pretty important, but
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: otherwise similar slate, Denver value, Paul Reid, pick your studs.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: That's what we got there. All right, We'll keep it
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: rolling second last game of the slate, Phoenix Suns and
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets. Let me refresh eight and a half
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: point favorites of the Rockets two twenty two and a
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: half total by far the lowest on the slates. Yeah,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: someone mentioned, Yeah, the highest is Utah Portland two forty
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: two and a half on the Fandel slate. The highest
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: for the DraftKings slate is Chicago Boston two thirty seven
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: and a half. This is the lowest injuries for Houston
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: no El Prince sing Goon, and then Steven Adams is questionable.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a big piece of news right there.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: As far as the Phoenix side, no injuries to note.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is where if Steven Adams is out.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: People were talking Capella earlier. Yeah, you gotta wait, I
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: said earlier, you gotta wait till you gotta wait till
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: eight Eastern though, So I guess are you willing to
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: take that risk? Like, assuming we don't know it before
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Paul Reid locks, obviously, then you could play Capella and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Paul Reid stuff, But then you're locking up a Utel
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: spot and you're sacrificing some of the Denver stuff. So
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: even let's talk if he is out. If he's in,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: you're not playing Clint Capella. But even if he's out, Like, yeah,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's even I don't like I don't
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: think this projection is gonna go anywhere close. There's still
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: so many guys. I mean, the Rockets are great at
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: rebounding guard like I'm in Thompson, so his usage is
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: going to be next to nothing. Other guys he plays
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: next to can rebound. I guess, like, what do you
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: think the minutes go to? I know I don't like
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: him more than Paul Reid, but if we're talking ninety
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: percent versus yeah, I mean, then you can't you can't
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: argue that one bit.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So just to be clear, first off, I don't
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: think Paul Reid comes in like the ninety five percent
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: we saw a day Ron Sharp, but I do think
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: it's like eighty percent.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: So that's still so much ownership on a guy like Paul.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Reid, who's really good at producing but fragile in terms
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: of the minutes he plays always, So you know, at
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: that point, while I still think that that he's a
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: better play than Paul Reid or than Capella, excuse me
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: and Paul Reid will project better. I do think that
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: there's viability to going to Capella in tournaments.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I do it.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: No, I'm more likely to play them together. But I
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: think your point about just there being too much value
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: on this slate, like if I land there, sure kind
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: of just hoping Adams is in. But I don't think
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Capella is like some super Smash play. If Adams is out,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: I think he's a good play on this slate in
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: the context of the slate with all the value, but
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: he kind of just lumps in with all the Denver value.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: In my opinion, he doesn't stand out in any type
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: of way.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Agree. Last game twenty six minutes, thirty four DK points. Obviously,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: that is very good four for me from the field,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: eight rebounds, fifteen percent usage, two blocks. Yeah, I mean
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I that's a very solid Capella. It would depend on
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: the ownership gap. The problem is once you're not playing,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I guess it's not that big of a problem because
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: you would play Capella in the utail spot and you
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: have the Denver late flexibility. You have three games right
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: here with the okay see Charlotte. So if you are
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: in on this game and you have more backloaded roster spots. Yeah,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: you can adjust more. So that's interesting that way. If
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: we get to at least before seven thirty, then a
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: lot of people will have time to adjust, and it'd
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: be interesting how many Capella Read teams there are.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm with you.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: I kind of take back a lot of what I
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: said earlier in the show, kind of slipping in my
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: mind that Adams was questionable along with doing being out
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: because like at that point, yeah, like I still think
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Reid projects better, but like if there's a big ownership gap,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: like I do at that point, prefer Capella, like big
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: as in like eighty to twenty or something like that.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, because I don't think they're that different
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: of plays. And just kind of thinking out loud about this,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I talked about how much I like that. Okay, see
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Charlotte Gaming tournaments. There aren't centers from that game I
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: want to play. So for me personally, you know, playing
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: both Capella and Read together and then pivoting off of
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Capella if Adams is in, is in play for me,
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: because starting center Capella with no real backup is a
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: good play. I mean again, I don't think he like
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: stands out way above the Denver value. But looking at
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: each individual player from Denver, I think I too like
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Copella more if Adams is out, so like just an
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: interesting scenario here very much.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: So Yeah, late swap, you got to be around your
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: compute for sure for this one. What about other spots
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: in this game? Phoenix looks really tough. I mean, what
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a game they played yesterday. Devin Booker ice in his veins.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was nice. But man, the back to back
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: fully healthy. The prices are up, Like Colin Gillespie was
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: free money the first half of the year, but the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: price is finally up Grayson's back. These guys are fully healthy.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: It's tough for me to really get to any of them.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: If I did choose, I don't know. Maybe Booker it's
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: a tough matchup for him, but like you have the
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: money to spend, I really don't love anyone on that
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: side though, I think the Houston side, and if you
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: look at point per dollar it reflects it is the
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: more interesting click. I look at these guys, A lot
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: is the same as the Toronto stuff, but they're missing Singoon,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: so there is a lot more usage to go around
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: that way. So is it Duran is it Aman Thompson,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Is it Eason Jabbari? Are you making rules? How many
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: can you get to? I think this is at ownership
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a spot I'm interested in. I just I don't want
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: to pick wrong. I don't know which one it'll be,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: but I feel good about at least one of these
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: guys at Ownership having a flame or two next to
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: their name.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I think that's very apropos Comparing them to Toronto here,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I think they look very similar to Toronto even with Segun out,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: because there's still a bunch of these guys, Like I
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: like Duran at eighty nine hundred, but is he a
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: priority on this slate?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: No?
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Same with Aman Thompson.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Then you go to like the next price points with
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: like Reed Shepherd and Tarry Eathen. I think both those
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: guys are viable like in tournaments. But again, I don't
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: think that this is a spot or a game where
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I want to go too deep on. I do think
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: this is a really good game from like an actual
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: watching NBA perspective, this is the best game of the night.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: You got the Durant Brooks revenge angle. Both these teams
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: are good, Phoenix surprisingly good. Both these teams play good defense,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: so it's just not overly appealing from a DFS perspective.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Agree with all that great real life game. A lot
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: of the times, the best real life games, by no
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: means are the best fantasy games. You want some of
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the worst ones where the teams don't care at all
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: and it's just back and forth track meet, like a
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: lot of the Hawks games. So yeah, that's a good
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: point there. I will get some of the Houston stuff
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: kind of. Let Sabersim take the wheel on that. But Durant, Jabari, Easton,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Aman Thompson, and possibly Capella I think would all be
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: solid plays for their price, and the ownership won't really
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: like you use that in chalk your stuff to get different.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I think I prefer this stuff more than like the
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Hawks stuff, more than that Bulls Boston game. You like
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: this Charlotte OKAC game, but if that game blows out,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: like you only have so many games to go to,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I think this is the This would be the one
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: on the Houston side. Phoenix is a little tougher to
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: get to. But yeah, that's a good point you make.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Also part of the reason that the OKAC Charlotte game, like,
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: I'm willing to go harder on that than I normally
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: would be. Is to the point you just made, and
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: you made earlier on a bunch of the games that
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: I have really big spreads, so like kind of no
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: matter what you do unless you play this game, you
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: know obviously, or Toronto Atlanta, which is another reason it's
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: getting a lot of love. Like you're picking into games
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: that have big spreads, but like you know, certainly you
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: don't like that, but an NBA, especially like with those
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know how many games did you say, we're
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: like ten plus spreads?
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Three? Yeah, I think it's three and then ones eight
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: and a half. So I bet.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, I bet at least one
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: of those one of those dogs wins outright.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right. That's the NBA for you for sure.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting game. I like the Houston stuff, not
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: the feeding stuff. Let's go to the game that everyone
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: needs to worry about. It's the last game this light
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: at least a thirty eastern. It is on an island.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Though in terms of like starting lineups, maybe you'll get
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: it right at eight eastern. All these games will lock.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have a lot of open roster spots, so
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: you more than likely will the Nuggets in the seventy
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: six ers big total or big favorites though fourteen a
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: half point favorites are the seventy six ers two twenty
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: eight and a half total. Assuming you didn't wake up
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: under rock yesterday, you know that Jokich is out, Valan
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Trounas is out, and then today Aaron Gordon, Jamal Murray,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Christian Braun and Tim Hardaway are all out. That leaves
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: them with a bunch of random guys, and I shouldn't
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: say random, like Bruce Brown, Pickets, straw the Nas. We've
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: seen these guys, Peyton Watson, We've seen these guys for
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: a little while. But yeah, just look at these prices,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: and again the ownership is not updated, but you're gonna
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: see massive value on these guys, and a lot of it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Point guard, shooting guard, point guard, shooting guard, shooting guard,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: small forward, who do have small forward, small four power forward,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Zeke at center, Brown, Pickett, Strawther Watson all gonna be popular. Yeah,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I guess just take it away from there is any
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: hot takes, any rankings, any separation and rules, and then
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: after you talk Denver stuff, we'll go to the Philly
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: side applied for a lot of points at one tine.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: It's tough, man, because I don't even know if Denver's
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: coach knows the rules right now with this lineup that
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: he's they're running out there tonight, you know what I mean.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: So, like I know you.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Meant and clarified no disrespect, but it is a bunch
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: of randoms thrown out there when you got Jokic, Ja
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: val Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown, Jamal Murray all out, like
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: they're missing like all their whole starting lineup plus a
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: couple bench guys. So they're getting like the back end
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: of Denver's rotation here for a full game. We've seen
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: this play out many different ways, seen him play out
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: where like Philly just doesn't take these guys seriously, and
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, like all the Denver guys
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: get there because like they're playing inspired ball, they're in
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: the game, et cetera. We've seen it where like teams
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: in this spot cannot do anything. I remember a spot
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: last year with Dallas when like everyone was out and
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: it was all these value guys. They literally scored like
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: twenty five points in the first half and finished the
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: game with like sixty oh one got there even at
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: cheap cheap price points.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was as cheap a price points
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: as this though.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Because of that, it's almost impossible to get away from
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Denver here because they got so many guys that like
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: the flat three K to four K range, which just.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Is like gold and NBA dfs. So my big problem
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: with all these.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Guys is like none of them individually are really good
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: fantasy producers. The guy I feel most comfortable with is
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Bruce Brown at forty three hundred. I think he runs
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: the show. You know, ownership is fine, not low, but
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: not crazy crazy high either. Point guard shooting are eligible.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Don't love that, but fine with it. Jalen Pickett I
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: think looks good here, same position eligibility as Brown, a
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: little bit cheaper. Strather and Hunter Tyson both three K.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Strather projecting as like one of the highest onned players
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: on the slate outside of Paul Reid. That doesn't feel good,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: like he is not a good fantasy producer. That being said,
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: most of his run like he doesn't get run with
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: like Curtis Jones and Hunter Tyson.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: So maybe when he's running with those guys, his usage increases.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: There's just so much unknown here.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: You know, if you're playing one fifty, you just want
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: to exposure to all these guys scattered throughout with Sabers
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: du It's thing I don't not to say there aren't
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: any rules. I don't know what they are because I
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: just don't know if Denver knows what they.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Are for sure. This is this is tough the peel. Obviously,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing nine guys will be suited up for Denver.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: And when you have nine guys, I mean you're you're
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of these guys are blow at proof. Like
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: if it does blow out, who's not playing Bruce Brown,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Peyton Watson? And then from there, like they're probably gonna
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: be rotating, And even if it does blowut, they're still
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: getting a solid like a lot min of minutes. Do
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: you think they're gonna split the center position forty eight
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: minutes between Holmes and Zeke Naji. Let's see we got
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: twenty five or Sabers twenty five minutes there twenty seven? Yeah, yeah,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's just one of them. They won't share
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: the court once, but they're just gonna split it.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, yes, But I also don't think it's crazy
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: if they play like five minutes together just because of
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: how this team is suited up tonight, like because of
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: the bodies they have, like day Ron Holmes can play
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: the flour.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: That makes me, That makes me really excited about zeke nology,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: and just in the sense of maybe these twenty five
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: minutes are under projected a little bit if they would
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: share the courts man just like him and Holmes, Like,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to find center pivots. And again if Capella, yeah,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: if Adams is out in capeller Man, yeah, like then
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: then I don't think there's really any need to go
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: to this as much. But like you're getting like all
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: the value, all the ownerships going to all the other
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Denver pieces except the centers on this laid So I'm
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: just trying to find any way to possibly get different there.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: If they chair of the court, I think this this
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: numberould be like maybe twenty eight, twenty nine. It'd be
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: interesting if I did play, and I'm probably just playing
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: it with Paul Reid though, and then Jamming Studs. Do
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: you have any leans on on these guys though, Strawther, Pikett, Brown,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: any any of them you wouldn't play anything, No.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Like no one I wouldn't play.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I am like the straw.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: The ownership is crazy for a guy that like just
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: isn't a good fantasy producer, but he's three K, so
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: he's not gonna say, like, don't play him. I think
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Hunter Tyson at the same exact price point is an
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: interesting pivot or playing them together. Certainly, Curtis Jones is
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: mildly intriguing to me because he's also the flat three
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: K and not getting like any ownership compared to all
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: the other Denver guys, so he gotta falls into like
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: the zep nausey day Ron Holmes boat of like just
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: not getting any ownership where everyone else is.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Getting a ton of ownership.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I like your point about Zeke Nagy.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: This is one like we talked about earlier, where like.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: If I didn't know Ball, if I didn't know anything
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: about NBA, it was just going off projections and stuff.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: I might be a little more interested in Zeke Nagy
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: than I am, but he is so ass like it
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: is hard to play him over a guy like Paul
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Reeder could up Now to your other point, though, like
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: they're on, Holmes started against the Calves the other night
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: immediate two fouls, like immediate two fouls with embiid.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Like why couldn't that happen?
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, the Zeke Nagy is
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: playing twenty eight minutes just because of that. So, like you,
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: they don't even have to play together for like the
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Nase thing to work out as far as minutes go.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: My big problem with him is like even if he
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: plays thirty minutes, is he gonna get there?
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: That's a good point in terms of people always ask
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: like how many denvers too many? You can definitely play four.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: I think five are getting to the point that maybe
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: that's too many just for the simple fact of their
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: price takes, Like you got to spend your money at
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the end of the day.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the goal isn't to just build the most like
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: value lineup, like you score the most points to your
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: point exactly.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'd probably say four max, which is in
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: play when you do go four if you're not playing
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: like Nausey Jones, like if you're just eating all straw
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: the picket, Bruce bron Watson, probably get different somewhere else.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe don't play Paul Reid or something. Find a contrarian
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: s bend but yeah, four is definitely fine. Let's go
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: to the Philly side. I do think we talked about
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: it at pre show, like if you're not playing Paul
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Reid or at the beginning of the show. I think
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Joel Embid is probably my favorite way to do it.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Just flip the bill at center. Hope he scores like
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: sixty plus. Again, there's plenty of value on the slates.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: It's not like you can't afford him. I hope Paul
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Reid just has a mild game. After that, I'll let
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: you talk about these other guys. I mean they're healthy.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Max he is the beast, Edgecump could be a beast.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: But I feel like there's a lot of potential as
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: well as big favorites at pretty steep prices.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like my problem is I think there's a lot
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: of snowflake potential, but also I think they're just priced
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: where they should be.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: So the Embiid call makes a lot of sense.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: From like a game theory standpoint as far as flipping
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: the build.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: But I don't think he's some like amazing value play.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: I think he's probably a little bit too cheap still,
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: but like fairly priced right now at eighty seven hundred
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: with them being fully healthy. And I think that about
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: the rest of Philly, and with how Denver is constructed
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: here and the price tags on Philly and on Denver,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: I don't think you need any Philly if you're playing
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: a ton of Denver. Now, do I think that if
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: Denver keeps this game competitive, someone or a couple of
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: guys from Philly could get there? Sure, but you know,
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know how likely that is in the first place.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: And even if that's the case, like, I do think
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: that there are you know, better point per dollar plays.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Elsewhere on the board. So Philly for me is just a.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: Team I probably won't get much of, except for maybe EMBID.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: I like that shout out.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I do think Embiid Paul Reid lineups will
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: be decently popular. I think if I think those are
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: really the two appealing centers people will play. They will
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: play them together if you're not playing Paul Reid. Though
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: most of my we don't.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Get the Adams news, Capella is going to be low on.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Now the thing is, if
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: we do get it, it could possibly like if we
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: get a forty five minutes prior only one game is locked.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Now that is Paul Reid's lot for many could be towns,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: but a lot of people would have a util spot
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: and then that would lower embiads ownership because you could
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: only play one of Capella Embid, you'd be you'd be
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: flexed that way. So that is an interesting now, great point, yep,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: a great point.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: It just makes it like to your point, like multiplied
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: about how Embiid's flipping the build because all of a sudden,
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: a lot of those Embiid Reid lineups are going to
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: flip to Paul reap to to Compella lineups and spending
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: up elsewhere. So it's a great shout out. I think,
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: kind of talking this out with you, those are the
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: three centers I want here Capella Read and then Beat
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: and only Capella if Adams is.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Out yep, And I do think most probably feel feel
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: the same way on this late and Paul Reid lives
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: right away on the island, so he'll naturally get a
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: bunch of ownership. Favorite point guard DK. We don't usually
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: do this, like if I had to pick, it would
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: be jal and Pickett, three point a K and Denver,
• 56:22
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• 56:25
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• 56:28
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• 56:31
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• 56:34
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• 56:37
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• 56:40
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Stuart is like an I guess interesting tournament play
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: because he's not going to get owned, but he's pricier,
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: Like he's priced where he should be at fifty five hundred.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: As opposed to Paul Reid.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Is just the ultimate value.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: I do think that, like that makes sense in tournaments
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: like playing Stewart over Paul Reid. The price isn't really
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: an issue because of how the slate is constructed with
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: all the Denver value, So like I get it in
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: tournament's probably not what I do, but we should have
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: mentioned him earlier.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the reason it's tough if you look
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: at it, is just like he's seventeen hundred more and
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: projects less right to which it's not less by much.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: If there was a slate to do it is it
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: is where you just have all the value in the
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: world where just say, if Paul Reid scores like six
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: less in his projection, it is a decent chance Paul
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Reid scores more than his because they do eat into
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: each other a little directly. So yeah, I guess game
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: theory wise, it may be a little more thought. But
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: being oh sorry, go ahead, being seventeen hundred more and
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: projected less is always a little more difficult. But this
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: is a slate that it's easier to do.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: So yeah, no, And it also goes back to like, no,
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: what contest you're playing like, because if you playing like
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: a higher expensive, lower dollar buy in, like maybe you're
• 59:03
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• 59:07
  Speaker 4: of the ownership game you're gonna get because all Lee,
• 59:10
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• 59:12
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• 59:14
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• 59:16
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• 59:19
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• 59:31
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