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I’m Tired Of The Giannis Antetokounmpo Trade Saga… · Kenny For Real

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Speaker 1: This morning, we got this tweet from Sean Sharani, a
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Speaker 1: two time MVP. Yansa de Compo's ready for a new
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Speaker 1: home at the February fifth NBA trade deadline or in
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Speaker 1: the off season, as several rival teams make aggressive offers
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Speaker 1: to the Milwaukee Bucks for him, and the franchise is
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Speaker 1: starting to listen sources tail ETESPN. This tweet came out
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Speaker 1: a little over an hour ago and it's got forty
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Speaker 1: one thousand likes. Also think gets hilarious how there are
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Speaker 1: a lot of things trending on Twitter right now, and
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Speaker 1: Tyler Heroes one of them.
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Speaker 2: He fans like, Hey, Milwaukee, take Tyler hero take him.
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Speaker 2: We want Gianna's.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, another piece of news in the Yannis saga.
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Speaker 1: I guess it's very interesting to me. I even quoted
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Speaker 1: this tweet when it first came out that says, the
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Speaker 1: Yanna's tweets always feel weird to me.
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Speaker 2: They read weird to me.
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Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because normally, when
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Speaker 1: we have a player on the market and it's by
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Speaker 1: their design, potentially, like when Anthony Davis officially requested the
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Speaker 1: trade from the Pelicans, the tweet was Anthony Davis requested
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Speaker 1: the trade. All of the times James Harden has because
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Speaker 1: of the trade, the tweet said, James Harden has because
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Speaker 1: of the trade. But with Gianni's it's always around the bush.
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Speaker 1: Is he's ready for a new home, he's thinking about
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Speaker 1: his future.
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Speaker 2: He might want to get traded to the Knicks.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not blaming Sean Sharania, I'm not even blaming
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Speaker 1: Giannis's team, but it always reads.
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Speaker 2: Weird to me.
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Speaker 1: Well, I can't even really formulate a real opinion because
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell's going on.
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Speaker 2: One of the reasons why I loved back in the
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Speaker 2: day and all my stead back in the day.
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Speaker 1: I saw a tweet the other day that was like,
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a portion of NBA fans eventually that
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Speaker 1: don't know who Wolge is, and that kind of scares me,
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Speaker 1: But I liked them. We had two news breakers. Again,
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Speaker 1: it's not a shot as Shams, because he's a really
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Speaker 1: good guy.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
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Speaker 1: We had two news breakers because Wolj's when he broke
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Speaker 1: news or rumors and stuff, it was always from the
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Speaker 1: perspective of the organization, and then when Sham's broke news,
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Speaker 1: it was from the perspective of the agents and the players,
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Speaker 1: so we did deficiency trades. We saw both perspectives. Oh,
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Speaker 1: the Bucks traded Gianna's because of this, and then Giannis
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Speaker 1: is happy to be on his new team because of this,
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Speaker 1: and we always saw both. They kind of were like
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Speaker 1: a Yin and Yang, even though they were technically competitors,
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Speaker 1: and we don't have that anymore. It's really just Cham's
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Speaker 1: from the perspective of the agents and from the players.
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Speaker 1: But I can't be the only person that is completely
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Speaker 1: A couple days ago, first of all, I want to
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Speaker 1: say Mark Stein and Jake Fisher have been dropping bangers
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Speaker 1: over a substack.
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Speaker 2: It's not an ad or anything. It's not like they're
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Speaker 2: paying me.
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Speaker 1: But when we're getting close to close to the trade
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Speaker 1: that line, they're dropping hell of rumors and kind of
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Speaker 1: keeping the ear to the ground or who could potentially
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Speaker 1: be up for trade and stuff. A couple days ago,
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Speaker 1: they dropped a piece in their substack that basically said
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we've only had one trade.
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Speaker 1: The trade Young trade to the Wizards is because everybody's
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Speaker 1: waiting for the Yannis domino to officially fall, or they're
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Speaker 1: waiting for the Yianni's door too close for them to
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Speaker 1: say no, it's literally not happening, or for them to
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Speaker 1: open up the window. And because a lot of teams
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Speaker 1: are interested. Giannis is a two time ivyp's only thirty
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Speaker 1: one years old. He's got a lot left in the tank.
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Speaker 1: So teams that are trying to compete are interested. But
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Speaker 1: even the teams that aren't trying to compete are looking
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Speaker 1: at it as trying to be facilitated in the.
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Speaker 2: Second Apron era.
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Speaker 1: You're probably gonna need a third team or fourth team,
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Speaker 1: or maybe even a fifteen to trade Giannis, and all
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Speaker 1: of these teams are just waiting for that moment. So
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Speaker 1: this whole trade saga has prevented us from having the
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Speaker 1: trades that we want. Baby, it ain't happening. You said again,
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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming Yiannis. I'm not even blaming the front
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Speaker 1: office of the Milwakey Bunses. This is w what I'll
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Speaker 1: be thinking about it.
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Speaker 2: Man, in my early twenties.
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Speaker 1: It feels like thirty years ago, I had a buddy
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Speaker 1: who was in a less use the word toxic relationship
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Speaker 1: with a lady and they were together for a long time.
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Speaker 1: But towards the end of their relationship, I swear to you,
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Speaker 1: we got texts on the monthly basis and like, hey,
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Speaker 1: me and old girl are back together. Oh me and
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Speaker 1: old girl just broke up. Oh me and old girl.
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Speaker 1: Just that's what it feels like with this Milwaukee Bucks.
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Speaker 1: Two pairings that don't know if they want to be together,
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Speaker 1: and they're still trying to stick it out or they're
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Speaker 1: getting rid of each other, but then they try to
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Speaker 1: bring it back, and then it's this, and it's that,
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Speaker 1: and it's this and that.
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Speaker 2: I can't even fault anybody for it, but damn it.
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Speaker 1: It is somebody that loves NBA two K trades in
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Speaker 1: real life trades. The fact that we've only had one
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Speaker 1: trade because of this, it's got it crazy.
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Speaker 2: It's got it crazy.
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Speaker 1: And because Joanna's won't officially recross the trade, or because
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Speaker 1: the Bucks won't officially open up that door, it makes
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Speaker 1: it hard for me to really formulate a true, true opinion.
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Speaker 1: I've said it before, but I am traditionally a small
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Speaker 1: market type of guy.
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Speaker 2: I love the fact that Yannis was.
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Speaker 1: Drafted where he was and he eventually became a two
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Speaker 1: time MVP, and that he helped that team. I helped that team.
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Speaker 1: He led that team to an NBA championship. That is
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Speaker 1: the gold standard when it comes to smaller markets. I've
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Speaker 1: always been the guys like I would prefer for smaller
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Speaker 1: markets to keep their stars. I truly do hate when
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Speaker 1: we get potential trades of star players out of nowhere
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Speaker 1: from just fan base and saying like yan has been
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Speaker 1: with Milagi for a long time, what if he played
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Speaker 1: for the Lakers.
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Speaker 2: I like, I get tired of it. I get tired
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Speaker 2: of it. I get tired of it.
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Speaker 1: And it's nothing dude with the Lakers themselves, But I
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Speaker 1: just liked the idea of a guy being with a
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Speaker 1: team singularly on a smaller market, and all the times before,
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Speaker 1: maybe like last week, anytime Yanna's trades.
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Speaker 2: Came up rumors and stuff, I was just like whatever. Man.
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Speaker 1: Until Janni's officially requests a trade, or until demarki Bucks
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Speaker 1: officially say he's open to be traded, I just don't
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Speaker 1: want to hear it.
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Speaker 2: I just would rather him be a one team guy.
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Speaker 1: The same thing with Devin Booker back in Phoenix, where like,
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Speaker 1: even though last year things are really really bad, I
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Speaker 1: never came into it, like you know what, they probably
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Speaker 1: should trade book, you know, but I always got to
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Speaker 1: be a button there. This is the first time where
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Speaker 1: I feel like it just makes sense for both parties
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Speaker 1: to just part ways, even with me being a smaller
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Speaker 1: market guy because I look at let's say, I am
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Speaker 1: in Jonsblokumbo's camp right which I'm Yana Rather I would
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Speaker 1: love to be in your camp only like Ansurrozi's kind
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Speaker 1: of crazy for me to follow another grown man around
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Speaker 1: that I'm almost the same age as you. But like
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, being this camp, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, he called me.
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Speaker 2: Everyone's on.
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Speaker 1: The way I would lay it out is even though
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Speaker 1: we love Milwaukee, and we truly do, because this is
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Speaker 1: the only city that we know, they welcome me with
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Speaker 1: open arms. The fans are amazed and they've The only
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Speaker 1: time they've ever boomed me was just last week and
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Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily me, it was just the team at large.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it was even we were they were booing Doc Rivers,
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Speaker 1: I love it here, but you got to think about
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Speaker 1: the fact that you're thirty one years old and even
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Speaker 1: though you've played sixty eight and seventy six and seventy
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Speaker 1: games and you've never really had much injury I guess
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Speaker 1: failures in the regular season. Over the last couple of
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Speaker 1: years we have come up short because you've had some
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Speaker 1: freak injuries here or there. You gotta think about those
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Speaker 1: type of things. We basically have had two years plus
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Speaker 1: where the season was just void for you because of injury.
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Speaker 1: You gotta start thinking about those type of things. And
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Speaker 1: the years before that the season was void because Chris
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Speaker 1: Middleton got injured.
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Speaker 2: Right, So we have a four year.
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Speaker 1: Period where we played all these games, we made all
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Speaker 1: NBA First Team, we were in MVP conversations, and we
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Speaker 1: weren't able to make anything of it. So you look
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Speaker 1: at this roster and the roster is deeply flawed and all.
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Speaker 1: But you ask yourself, or I'm asking you, Johns, if
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Speaker 1: I'm in your camp, how many years do you think
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Speaker 1: it will take the Bucks to get back into contention.
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Speaker 1: And the answer is probably, if we keep you, honest,
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Speaker 1: around two to three years minimum. So do you want
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Speaker 1: to stick around for two to three years and be
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Speaker 1: thirty four years old when y'all finally into it. You
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Speaker 1: don't really know how much time you got left in
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Speaker 1: your prime. You never know until the prime is over.
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Speaker 1: So you ask yourself, is it worth staying around and
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Speaker 1: playing on forty one to forty five win teams and
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Speaker 1: you continue to make the playoffs? I mean, hell, even
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Speaker 1: this season, they probably not gonna make the class. We
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Speaker 1: continue to be in playoff cosations, but never good enough
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Speaker 1: to win it, all right, and just let him make
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Speaker 1: that decision after that, That would be my pitch to
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Speaker 1: him to like, just just to get rid of it. Now.
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Speaker 1: As we've seen over the last couple years, the grass
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Speaker 1: is not always greener. The perfect example is Damian Lillard
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Speaker 1: are getting out aside at Milwaukee. But you know, we
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Speaker 1: thought that it made sense for Damian Liller to request
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Speaker 1: the trade from Portland and officially traded him to a
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Speaker 1: team that, in my mind, before that first season happened,
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Speaker 1: that team was right into contention with Dame and Giannis
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Speaker 1: and they never really able to do anything. And the
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Speaker 1: Dame said, you know what, the grass was, Agreen, I'm
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Speaker 1: going back to my old team. I'll wait out the
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Speaker 1: season because of my injury. I'll go back to my
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Speaker 1: old team on a small contract.
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Speaker 2: It will be cool.
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Speaker 1: Right, So the grass isn't necessarily always greener, but sometimes
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Speaker 1: you do have to take that risk. Sometimes you do
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Speaker 1: what makes it tough. And then the Sham's report it
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Speaker 1: says looking for a new home at the February fifth
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Speaker 1: NBA trade deadline or the off season. And I would
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Speaker 1: welcome a surprise, but it's just it's hard for me
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Speaker 1: to pull out the trade that's happening on February fifth
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Speaker 1: around Gianni's And the reason I say that because Gianna's
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Speaker 1: in the big ass contract of course is well deserved
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Speaker 1: in his league.
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Speaker 2: And we're in the second apron era. I have to
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Speaker 2: keep mentioning it.
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Speaker 1: And in order to get the money to match on
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Speaker 1: certain teams, you're gonna have to give up probably the
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Speaker 1: bulk of the team that makes you who you are
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Speaker 1: today in order to acquire Yanna's. Now, if you do
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Speaker 1: that in the off season, it's a little bit easier. Right,
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Speaker 1: we can trade a forty million dollar player right now
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Speaker 1: because we also have a month to field the rest
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Speaker 1: of the roster. If you're acquiring Yanni's today, the team
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Speaker 1: that you have. By many cases, it's going to be
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Speaker 1: the team that you have for this season. And I
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Speaker 1: just don't know how many teams can send out that
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Speaker 1: salary match bringing Gianni's and immediately feel like they're contender again,
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Speaker 1: especially from the Bucks perspective, because all the reports is
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Speaker 1: like the Bucks.
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Speaker 2: Are not selling low on Yanna's.
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Speaker 1: Don't think you can send us some weak ass dude
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Speaker 1: that's making forty million dollars in one first round pick
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Speaker 1: and think you get yan Yan. No, we want young players,
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Speaker 1: we want the salaries to match, we want all of
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Speaker 1: the picks because he's a top three player in the
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Speaker 1: world and still actively in his prime and a lot
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Speaker 1: of teams can't provide that as of today, but they
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Speaker 1: might be able to provide that.
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Speaker 2: In the offseason. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: The only way I think it happens this and I
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Speaker 1: could be wrong, obviously. The only way I think it
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Speaker 1: happens this trade that line is if Giannis makes a
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Speaker 1: list and say, trade me to New York, trade me
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Speaker 1: to the Warriors, trade me to the Lake.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just making some stuff up. If
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Speaker 2: he has a list.
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Speaker 1: In the Bucks, you're like, you know where you are
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Speaker 1: franchise got and even if we're not getting great value
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Speaker 1: for you, we'll trade you to the team you want
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Speaker 1: to go too, because we love you that goddamn much.
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Speaker 1: That's the only way I feel like it's happened in
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Speaker 1: February fifth, because those teams, the teams I just mentioned,
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Speaker 1: can put together weak ass packages for Jugest. But if
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Speaker 1: that's where he wants to go, I mean, I guess
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Speaker 1: we'll take on carth in the towns Godly, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like that might be where you fall
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Speaker 1: at if you are the Milwaukee Bucks. I don't recommend
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Speaker 1: that at all.
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Speaker 2: I wait.
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Speaker 1: I think if you are going to Ray Giannis, you
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Speaker 1: wait to the offseason and you set your franchise up
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Speaker 1: for the future, because the worst thing that can happen
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Speaker 1: to them because they don't have a lot of their
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Speaker 1: own picks. They got, you know, the Portland treub Blazers
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Speaker 1: got I think two of their picks and some swaps.
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Speaker 2: They have their own.
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Speaker 1: They have a swap for this season that they technically own,
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Speaker 1: but for the most part, they don't have their future picks.
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Speaker 1: So we kind of need draft capital. We kind of
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Speaker 1: need some younger triggering players to keep Bucks fans interested
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Speaker 1: in the post Giannis era. I'm not taking on Kart
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Speaker 1: any towns.
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: I made this pitch on a podcast, but I'll make
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Speaker 1: this pitch here. If you are the Milwaukee Bucks and
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Speaker 1: you're trying desperately to keep Giannis on the team, and
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Speaker 1: I can't blame you. He literally is the franchise go
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Speaker 1: and that goes a very long way, even if you
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Speaker 1: don't think that you are contender this season or next season.
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Speaker 1: The pitch I would make for Gianna's is, hey man,
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Speaker 1: right now, let's go. Let's go to Takeathon. Let's open
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Speaker 1: up Takeathon. I see j Crowder tweeting about Doc Rivers
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Speaker 1: right now, just on my time. I don't know the
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Speaker 1: hell is going on if we go to Tankeathon. As
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Speaker 1: you can see, the Milwaukee Bucks have a swap between
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Speaker 1: the Pelicans and them, right, so, the Pelicans are gonna
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Speaker 1: go I'm sorry, the Atlanta Hawks, because of the Derek
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Speaker 1: Queen trade, are gonna get whatever pick is best between
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Speaker 1: the Pelicans and the Bucks, and the Bucks get the
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Speaker 1: one that it's worse. So, at the bare minimum, at
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Speaker 1: least as of right now, the Bucks are gonna end
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Speaker 1: up with a top ten pick. That's what it looks like.
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Speaker 1: We can run this simulation and they end up at
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Speaker 1: pick number eight. Cool, let's say we dropped the one
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Speaker 1: because the Kings just won the lottery. Oh my goodness,
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Speaker 1: what the hell is that ad? That's the biggest ad
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. It just popped up and took over
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Speaker 1: the whole screen. We have the eighth overall pick. We
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Speaker 1: sit Gianni's down, and this is the off season. Hey, Yannis,
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Speaker 1: we know you might be interested in potentially trading you,
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Speaker 1: and we will trade you if you ask for it.
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Speaker 1: But let me pitch to you how we can make
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Speaker 1: things happen to keep you around. Right now, we have
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Speaker 1: the eighth overall pick in a draft that people are
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Speaker 1: saying is really one of them once. I'm not a
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Speaker 1: draft guy in them. No, I've seen some forty point
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Speaker 1: games for some dudes. This in this year's draft, but
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Speaker 1: I don't know. We have the eighth overall pick in
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Speaker 1: this year's draft. We have Bobby PA's contract, we still
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Speaker 1: have Kyle Kuzma's twenty plus million dollars, and we have
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Speaker 1: the eighth pick. And then we also, if I'm not mistaken,
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Speaker 1: have two other tradable picks in the far far future,
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Speaker 1: one of these teams, two of these teams in the
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Speaker 1: postseason this year might be willing to blow it up.
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Speaker 1: If we traded pick number eight in a loaded draft
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Speaker 1: and salary Philler, we might be able to get you
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Speaker 1: another star player alongside you. I don't mean star player
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Speaker 1: in as in Steph Curry or Jokic or Luca, but
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Speaker 1: maybe a tier two star player, an all star rather
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Speaker 1: than the superstar. And if you just just give us time,
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Speaker 1: we add you and this superstar we get off of
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Speaker 1: these other contracts, is the Dames money. Dames Money's gonna
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Speaker 1: be off the books eventually. Hell, we'll even trade moules
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Speaker 1: turn if that's what you need us to do. We
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Speaker 1: can be back into having a competent team with you
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Speaker 1: having a co star in just.
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Speaker 2: A year and a half.
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Speaker 1: Just give us a year and a half Gianni's and
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Speaker 1: we can figure it out. And when you thirty three,
13:21
Speaker 1: that's not even that old in NBA. You see whatbron doing,
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Speaker 1: You see what Katie doing, you see what stuff doing.
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Speaker 1: You were from that cloth. We can get you. We
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Speaker 1: can get you there. Just give us a little bit
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Speaker 1: more time. There'll be my pitch. I don't know who
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Speaker 1: that player is. Now the pitch is a lot better
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Speaker 1: if we say we know who the player is and
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Speaker 1: hypothetically is I don't know what team would blow it
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Speaker 1: up this offseason if they if they were not very good,
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It might not be the best pitch, you know what
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Speaker 2: I mean?
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Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, Gianni's, we're gonna trade the eighth overall pick
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Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma and and Bobby port Is to bring you
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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis.
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Speaker 2: Is that gonna be enough for Jianna's? Probably not.
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Speaker 1: But that's what you have to do if you are
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Speaker 1: in the in the camp of keeping Giannis around the
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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks. That's the type of conversations. You got to
14:02
Speaker 1: sit him down and and make the conversations with. Now,
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Speaker 1: all of the conversations on Twitter are people to build
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Speaker 1: the trades, trying to find out the teams, and obviously
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Speaker 1: Knicks fans are really high on this list.
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Speaker 2: It's weird. It's weird.
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Speaker 1: It's weird to see the type of trades that are
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Speaker 1: being put up. But we'll see, we'll see officially what happens.
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Speaker 1: I just I want one or the other them to
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Speaker 1: shut the door completely for this for this deadline in
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Speaker 1: eight days and say, hey man, we would rather have
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Speaker 1: these conversations in the off season or Yannis to be
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Speaker 1: like officially officially get the job done, because then we
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Speaker 1: get the ball rolling, because y'all know we love some
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Speaker 1: goddamn trades around here. So let me know what you
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Speaker 1: think about the Janna saying I'm personally tired of it?
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Speaker 2: Are you