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My ex FAKED her condition to manipulate me… I almost fell for it! -r/BORUpdates | Reddit Stories | EP3129 · ok storytime

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  Speaker 2: My ex faked her condition to manipulate me. I almost
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  Speaker 2: fell for it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you almost had me.
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  Speaker 2: Trigger warning, terminal illness. Like, not really. So about a
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  Speaker 2: year ago, I, 21 male, broke things off with this girl,
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  Speaker 2: 22 female, because of some minorly... remarks and offensive comments
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  Speaker 2: about people I care about. Yesterday she reached out to
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  Speaker 2: me to tell me she has terminal illness and is
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  Speaker 2: passing away? Yikes.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no.
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  Speaker 2: She also wanted to apologize and we discussed maybe talking
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  Speaker 2: in person because an old conversation over Instagram DMs?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: One of my friends is insisting I should not grant
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  Speaker 2: her this because of what she had said to me
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  Speaker 2: in the past. Saying that she's using terminal illness card
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  Speaker 2: as an easy out for what she had done. I'm
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  Speaker 2: still leaning towards talking with her because it would bother
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  Speaker 2: me for the rest of my life if I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: But would I be the a-hole if I didn't forgive her? Questions, thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Savannah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Keon.
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  Speaker 2: other accountable and on track. If you guys have anything
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  Speaker 2: you'd like to add, please add it down below. Should
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  Speaker 2: also be noted that my friend said what she said
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  Speaker 2: to be somewhat protective. I'm obviously not going to get
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  Speaker 2: into it all of what was said a year ago
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  Speaker 2: because I don't want crap on the passing away. But
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't awesome to hear. I do play it down
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  Speaker 2: a lot because I try not to let people know.
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  Speaker 2: have that kind of effect on me, but my friend
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  Speaker 2: has a better recollection of how tore up I was,
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  Speaker 2: I guess. I appreciate this though. What made you think
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  Speaker 2: she might genuinely regret what she said? Yeah, that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of what I was thinking too, because she was raised
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  Speaker 2: somewhat religious, and when I explained the context of what
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  Speaker 2: she had said to me, she was mortified. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: concerned why my friend is urging me so strongly against it,
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  Speaker 2: because she's also right about this kind of stuff. Someone asked,
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  Speaker 2: why are you still wary about the situation? Opie says, no,
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are looking at this
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  Speaker 2: like I've been besties with this girl for a very
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  Speaker 2: long time or something. We talked for a couple of
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  Speaker 2: months over a year ago and didn't talk much before
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  Speaker 2: or after. She said a lot of interesting things. I
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  Speaker 2: don't necessarily have the evidence to back up. And this
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  Speaker 2: entire conversation is happening online. So like, I'm just obviously
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  Speaker 2: kind of wary. Another person asked, do you actually want
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  Speaker 2: to meet her? He says, I'm not sure. Yes and no.
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  Speaker 2: I want to hear her out. But I also don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do something that's going to end up being
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  Speaker 2: a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that mistake.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, maybe have a shot.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what he thinks, though?
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  Speaker 2: He said, what other mistake could there be by talking
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  Speaker 2: to her in person?
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  Speaker 1: I guess that he's going to fall in love.
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  Speaker 2: Does anyone else have a thought?
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  Speaker 1: I would think that he would, I mean, but do
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  Speaker 1: you think that they're going to catch feelings though?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's entertaining it. If he didn't have feelings
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  Speaker 2: for her, he wouldn't entertain this. There's another comment here.
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  Speaker 2: Why did you ask to meet in person instead of
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  Speaker 2: continue the conversation over messages? He says, I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's throwing me. She sounded pretty out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Could be from meds or chemo or whatnot. And she
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  Speaker 2: didn't say much beyond that. She has terminal illness and
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  Speaker 2: is passing away. I'm the one who asked to meet
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  Speaker 2: up because I have a hard time with these kinds
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  Speaker 2: of emotionally involved conversations over text.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't understand why he needs to meet in person.
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  Speaker 1: What are you going to get in person that you
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  Speaker 1: can't get over a conversation?
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  Speaker 3: A kiss.
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  Speaker 6: True.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
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  Speaker 7: Nah, I'd be like, can I get proof, like real
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  Speaker 7: proof of this? Because all of a sudden, just now?
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  Speaker 1: Like, is she doing it as a way to be
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  Speaker 1: manipulative to get him back or what?
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It has to be.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if my ex came to me and was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm terminally ill, I'd be like, that's cool.
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  Speaker 7: But she also said, I have this, and I'm stressed out,
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  Speaker 7: and that's why I said the things I said.
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  Speaker 3: Get back together with me, please.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: Ew!
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  Speaker 1: Don't pull that card. Ew.
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  Speaker 5: That's what's basically happening.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: I won't even entertain it because that's just going to
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  Speaker 1: drive me crazy because me, being the nice and kind
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  Speaker 1: person that I am, will feel really bad. But I
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  Speaker 1: would have to just get far away from that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Another person asked, what is making forgiveness feel difficult,
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  Speaker 2: even though you want to be kind? He says, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Not a lot of people are able to see the
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  Speaker 2: gray space I'm in mentally. It's not that I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be kind and forgive her. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Trust is such a hard thing. But at least regardless
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  Speaker 2: of what happens, I'll know I did what I could
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  Speaker 2: if I talked to her in person.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 7: If you're using that, that doesn't justify you to be
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  Speaker 7: an a-hole. Terminal illness, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. But doesn't justify you saying the
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  Speaker 3: things you said.
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  Speaker 2: But look, I didn't know I had cancer brain back then.
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  Speaker 2: Now I do. That was just the cancerous part of me.
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  Speaker 4: Now I know.
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  Speaker 1: I just like, I don't know. I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: But that was Cancer Maddie. Me and Maddie now is not.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no.
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  Speaker 1: Terminal illness doesn't make you do, unless it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: affected by the brain or whatever. But like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know what kind it is.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to fall for it. Personally, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, no, I don't care. No excuse.
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  Speaker 2: I like Melissa's thing. OP, just forgive them from a
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  Speaker 2: distance and move on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he finds her attractive. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: why he's entertaining it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, then cool. Then go be with her then.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So another comment here. What do you think you would
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  Speaker 2: regret more? Yeah, I think I live with my friend
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  Speaker 2: judging me a lot easier. And I could if I
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  Speaker 2: didn't grant some sort of peace and forgiveness to somebody
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  Speaker 2: I won't have the chance to again. Update two months
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  Speaker 2: later and 17 days. After two months and 17 days,
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  Speaker 2: basically she had DM'd me saying that she had terminal
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  Speaker 2: illness and was sorry for what had happened and just
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  Speaker 2: wanted to make peace with everything. I asked her if
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  Speaker 2: we could meet up purely because text and DM conversations
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  Speaker 2: are really hard for me to understand as an autistic
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  Speaker 2: person at times. And There was a weird back and
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  Speaker 2: forth where she rain checked several times back to back.
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  Speaker 2: Weird that she's playing with your emotions too. She ended
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  Speaker 2: up blocking me and I thought nothing of it for
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  Speaker 2: the most part. Just that I had tried to do
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  Speaker 2: my best part to help her make peace. And she
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  Speaker 2: didn't seem intent on meeting up. So there wasn't much
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  Speaker 2: more to be said. So this was about three months ago.
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  Speaker 2: She finds my Instagram again on the other night to
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  Speaker 2: DM me. By the way, everything I said was just
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  Speaker 2: a prank. I got paid $ 500 to tell someone something
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  Speaker 2: really effed up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, block.
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  Speaker 2: Or something adjacent to that? Perhaps not verbatim?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 2: 500 bucks for that?
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  Speaker 1: And you told your ex?
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  Speaker 2: I thought about it for a while and just decided
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  Speaker 2: to block her without responding. Because obviously she's after some
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  Speaker 2: sort of attention. And quite frankly, I'm not interested in
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  Speaker 2: giving it to her.
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  Speaker 5: Dang.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she 15 years old? I think so.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like, I don't know. $ 500?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that for.
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  Speaker 3: To a 22-year-old who's probably not working that much?
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  Speaker 1: I just, like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but still, I just don't, like, money to me
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  Speaker 1: isn't really that important because I always, like, my mindset
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  Speaker 1: is you always make it back. You know, as long
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  Speaker 1: as you're working, you always make that money back. Me
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  Speaker 1: and my sister were just talking about this yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you were.
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  Speaker 1: On the way to your house.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Because she said she wants to go to Italy. And
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  Speaker 1: she was like, why do, like, I want to go
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  Speaker 1: before I'm, like, 30. And she's 27 now.
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  Speaker 2: She's super young. She'll be fine. If she weren't 30,
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  Speaker 2: she'd be fine. I know.
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  Speaker 3: Isabella says she probably lied about the $ 500. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, dude.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. $ 500?
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  Speaker 2: You think that's going to make me feel better about
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  Speaker 2: you doing it? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And to be like, oh, yeah, okay, now I get it.
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  Speaker 1: You got me.
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  Speaker 2: Send me $ 50, and then I'll feel like, oh, cool.
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  Speaker 1: $ 50? Really? Send me $ 350. Dang. Send me $ 350. It
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  Speaker 1: never happened.
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  Speaker 7: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: And.
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  Speaker 2: Also because that's genuinely such a twisted thing to do
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  Speaker 2: to somebody. Anyways, wanted to give everyone an update. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for all of those who told me to be
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  Speaker 2: skeptical from the jump. Saved me a lot of heartache
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  Speaker 2: from getting emotionally attached in any way, shape, or form.
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  Speaker 2: People can be so. So what, I suppose.
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  Speaker 6: Fair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, sometimes Keon knows what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you see a girl and you just see your
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  Speaker 2: life with you and her flash before your eyes.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
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  Speaker 6: read the next one.
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  Speaker 1: I told my girlfriend a lie about my childhood. She
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  Speaker 1: believed everything. Yeah, maybe because she trusts you. So, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a university student, and I've been going out with my girlfriend, Leah,
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  Speaker 1: fake name, for a few months. Yeah, Leah with an H.
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  Speaker 5: Completely fake leah fake name lover she's such a good vibe.
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  Speaker 1: I live off campus with two roommates while she lives
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  Speaker 1: in the dorms with five bazillion other people so obviously
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  Speaker 1: she spends a lot of time at my place now
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: to be clear i'm not really a prank guy and
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  Speaker 1: i don't really see the point of investing time and
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  Speaker 1: effort into making my loved ones uncomfortable however i am
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  Speaker 1: a sarcastic person and i don't Like, hate practical jokes.
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  Speaker 1: I just think they should generally be good-natured and shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: cause damage or too much distress. I am completely with
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  Speaker 1: you on that one. I am, however, as stated, pretty sarcastic.
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  Speaker 1: This morning, we were getting up after a late night
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  Speaker 1: and I rolled out of bed, told my girlfriend I
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  Speaker 1: was going to take a dump, and left the room.
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  Speaker 1: When I got to the restroom, it was occupied, so
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  Speaker 1: I went to the shower room. Those are separate rooms here.
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  Speaker 1: Brushed my teeth, got a drink in the kitchen, and
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  Speaker 1: got back. My girlfriend asked, did you have a good poop?
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  Speaker 4: Aw, she's supportive.
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  Speaker 1: And I went, bathroom was occupied, and she, still groggy, asked,
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  Speaker 1: so you didn't poop? To which I sarcastically replied, I
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  Speaker 1: just went in the sink and rolled over. Now, usually
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  Speaker 1: my girlfriend is very good at picking up on when
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  Speaker 1: i am being sarcastic but apparently this particular instance was
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  Speaker 1: an exception because 15 minutes later she shakes me awake
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  Speaker 1: and goes wait did you really poop in the sink.
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  Speaker 5: There's no way there's no way there's no way.
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  Speaker 1: As I said, I don't usually prank people, but it
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  Speaker 1: was right there. And apparently I'm an idiot. So instead
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  Speaker 1: of telling her that, no, obviously I didn't poop in
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  Speaker 1: the sink. I go, oh yeah, totally did.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, such a fair response. Because what do you mean
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  Speaker 4: you actually think I did that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, oh yeah, I totally did.
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  Speaker 5: This makes me question everything I thought I knew about you.
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  Speaker 4: If you think I did that.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Downtown Basic 5001. And
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  Speaker 1: if you want to submit your own stories, go to
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  Speaker 1: the r slash okay story time subreddit. I'm Savannah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Dakota.
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  Speaker 1: And we're here to talk about some stuff, get some advice.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't have all your answers. We're just going
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  Speaker 1: to tell you what we would do. But let us
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  Speaker 1: know what you would do down in the comments. As
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  Speaker 1: OP says... She looks horrified, obviously. She asks, wait, but
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  Speaker 1: where does the poop go? And now I am committed
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  Speaker 1: to this. So I explain how obviously you just turn
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  Speaker 1: on the faucet and let it wash away. She again, horrified, asks,
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  Speaker 1: but what if it's too solid?
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  Speaker 4: Don't worry, babe. I'm so hydrated right now.
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  Speaker 1: So me, now 100% committed to this gag, explain that
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  Speaker 1: you just wait for the person to finish on the toilet.
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  Speaker 1: Pick up the turd, throw it in the bowl and flush, duh.
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  Speaker 1: Leah is now in shock, but totally awake. She looks
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  Speaker 1: at me in horror and goes, why would you even
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  Speaker 1: think to do this? So for context, I come from
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: a pretty poor family. And when I was little, we
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: shared an apartment with my grandparents, my uncle and my
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  Speaker 1: great grandma, all with one bathroom.
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  Speaker 4: Dang.
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  Speaker 1: Leah knows this. I, God knows why, decide to commit
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  Speaker 1: even harder. So I explain, you see, my family was
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  Speaker 1: big and we only had one bathroom. So this is
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  Speaker 1: just a totally normal thing we did, pooping in the sink.
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  Speaker 1: This is just normal, socially acceptable behavior where I grew up.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone did it there. Leah seems kind of skeptical at
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  Speaker 1: this point, but we need to start going about our day,
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  Speaker 1: so we say goodbye for now. That evening, a friend
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  Speaker 1: comes over. His long-term girlfriend grew up in the same
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  Speaker 1: neighborhood as me.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, buddy.
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  Speaker 5: We needed to put an end to the bit before
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  Speaker 5: we left to go about our day.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. Just be like, by the way, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: actually poop in the sink.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll never shame someone for committing to the bit,
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  Speaker 5: but you overcommitted to the bit.
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  Speaker 1: That evening, a friend comes over. His long-term girlfriend grew
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: up in the same neighborhood as me. I think very
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: little about this prank all day, but when my friend
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: comes over, Leah goes, wait, your girlfriend grew up in
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  Speaker 1: the same place as OP. Did she ever poop in
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: the sink? I am now passing away on the inside.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: But also in my mind, this is absolute gold. I
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: am flat out sitcom mouthing at my friend play along,
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  Speaker 1: which Leah somehow doesn't get. And my friend who's a
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: total bro goes, oh yeah, totally. It's so gross. Had
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: to talk to her about not doing it in our apartment. No.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. Now you have the friend's head seat.
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  Speaker 4: We've got multiple people committed to the bit now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no! She asks more questions. And we keep coming
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  Speaker 1: up with wilder and wilder crap about it. Sometimes the
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  Speaker 1: sink gets clogged. Sometimes the toilet and shower are in
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  Speaker 1: the same room. So you just fill a large cooking
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  Speaker 1: pot with water and poop in that. At some point,
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  Speaker 1: I become completely convinced that she is onto us and
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: just wants to see how wild it gets. Because I
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: told her I used to poop in cooking pots and
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  Speaker 1: she didn't break up with me yet.
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  Speaker 4: Dang.
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  Speaker 1: So now... The day is over and we're laying in
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  Speaker 1: bed and she nudges me and goes in the cutest
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  Speaker 1: voice ever. OP, while we're together, could you please not
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  Speaker 1: poop in the sink anymore? What do I do? I've
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  Speaker 1: now spent the entire day convincing her of this utter madness.
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  Speaker 1: What the heck do I do? Do I just not
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  Speaker 1: talk about it anymore? Do I tell her and hope
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: she doesn't decide to break up with me on the spot?
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: And am I the a-hole? And there's an update.
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  Speaker 4: Um.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think you're an a-hole.
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  Speaker 1: I would think it would be a funny story later
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: on to tell to be like, yeah, remember for a
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: whole day I convinced you I pooped in sinks? I'd
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: be like, yes.
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  Speaker 4: And you were so supportive.
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  Speaker 1: Right? That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what you're looking for, buddy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, just tell her that you're not a sink pooper.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like, listen, I actually have never
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: done that. And this was all a joke. And I
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: can't believe you fell for it.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: I was really just waiting for the moment you pushed
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: back and realized that it wasn't real. But we just
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: kind of sold it so good. And you're so nice.
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: So I'm sorry. But no, I'm not. You never have
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: to worry about that. Because it'll never happen.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: It never has. I would go outside.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I would go outside before I go in the sink.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: I'm going outside into the woods.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: There's an update. Yes, you get the update along with
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: the post because the situation is actually resolved. See, this
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: actually happened 13 years ago. I'm 38 and Leah, my wife,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: is 35. We've been married over a decade and have
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: a family together. That night after she asked me about it,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I came clean, pun intended. I told her it was
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: a prank because she didn't catch my sarcasm at that
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: point and I just committed hard after that. She asked
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: me if I planned it with my friend. I said, no,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: he was just being a bro.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys were meant to be.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: Anyone who doesn't immediately say it's over after you confess
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: that you pooped in the sink, that's someone who'll stay
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: with you forever.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be like, no, you didn't. And I just
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: would not. I'd be like, there's no way. There's absolutely
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: no way.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: For richer or for poorer. For sink or for toilet.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: See, the thing is, I would be the girl because
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I am very gullible and I would be.
• 16:02
  Speaker 8: Like, no.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: No.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: But then, like, if you committed to it, I'd be like, okay, what?
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: And then the friend committed to it, and I'd be like,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: all right. What is happening?
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, of course you'd be the girl.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: You're a girl.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, duh.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: What, is this Shakespeare all of a sudden?
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm not saying that night I knew she was
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: my person, but I'm not not saying that. See, at
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: certain points, I thought she caught on and was just
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: playing along to see how unhinged I could get with
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: my BS. But no, this saint of a woman thought
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: for a full day that I was some sort of
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: madman pooping in sinks in cookware and thought, I'm sticking
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: by this man, I can fix him, he is worth it.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Bless her. I hope I actually am. Nonetheless, all our
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: friends and family are now familiar with the story, which
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: we both love telling. And now this sub is too. Exactly.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: That's what I said. It's a great story. But like,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: go on. I mean, I'd be like, what is wrong
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: with you? Like, why? Why do I have?
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Why? That's a great inside joke to have forever.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: And that's the end of the story. We're going to
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: read the next one.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: My boyfriend accused me of betrayal over who painted my
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: own bathroom.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I just know it's a conspiracy.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm a 36 female, recently divorced. And during the divorce,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I bought out my former husband. The house is over
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: 100 years old and I want to make the house
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: my own instead of the house that my former husband
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and I bought. So over the course of the past
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: few months, I've been doing some DIY renovations, mostly painting, patching,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: stripping paint, fixing some of the quirks, that you would
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: expect to find in a 100-year-old home.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: So you've been ruining the house?
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: No, DIY.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Don't DIY a 100-year-old house, bro. Keep the 100-year-old house
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: the way it is.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I've been with my boyfriend, 36 male, for only a
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: short time, but when I was sharing with him the
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: vision that I had for a remodel of the bathroom,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: mostly just stripping 50 layers of old paint, new paint,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: adding wainscoting, he expressed excitement in wanting to help.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: He's like, oh my god, I'm so jazzed up about
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Wayne Scott.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: So I obliged and told him what I wanted, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I bought all the tools, the paint, etc. This was
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: about six weeks ago. He primed and put on the
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: first coat of paint, but I didn't like the color.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: So about three weeks ago, I bought the right color
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: of paint. And there it sat in my car until
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: last Thursday, April 21st.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Would you go to the paint store and be like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: can you guys give me the right paint? I got
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: the wrong paint.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: I need the right paint. You got any of that?
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: What happens if you think you like that? If you
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: think you like the color and then you bring it
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: home and you paint it and you're like, oh, actually,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I hate that. Then what? You can't return it, can you?
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: You just have to repaint the wall with another color.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you just spent all that money on paint
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and now you're going to double it and not even
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: give it to the next person.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Maybe you can sell your paint. I got a bucket
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: of wrong paint.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Wrong paint for sale. Wrong paint for sale. That's actually.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Do people do that?
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Do people what?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Sell paint?
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Well, like your paint seller sell paint.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: I bought a medieval helmet. Like there's people selling stuff.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I bought a medieval helmet.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: There's people selling all kinds of stuff all over the place. Really? Yes.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Uh, I should mention that at the end of March,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: my boyfriend lost his job, so he's been spending a
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: lot more time at my house during the week. But
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: after getting the new paint color, it literally sat in
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: my car for almost two weeks until he finally started
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: painting last Thursday. He spent most of the time at
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: my house sleeping, watching TV, and doing... other daily chores
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: around the house, but during the day, mostly nothing. By
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the way, this comes from Remodeling is Hard. And if
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you want to make your own stories go to the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: r slash okay story time subreddit i'm savannah.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: I'm dakota i'm riley.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: And we are here to give some good advice goofily
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: but we don't have all of your answers we are
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: just going to tell you what we would do but
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: let us know what you would do down in the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: comments because why not free.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Speech you should use it can't argue with that.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: As op says Last Thursday, he started painting the trim.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: It took him forever, like hours to do the trim.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And it's a tiny bathroom, like super tiny. My roommate
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and I have had our medicine cabinet taped shut for
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: six weeks. The only outlet in the bathroom has been
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: covered in tape and paint for six weeks. And frankly,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: we were both just getting sick of an unfinished bathroom.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: My roommate had mentioned that she was going to paint
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the bathroom, and when I told my boyfriend on Thursday,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: he got pretty irritated because he wanted to finish it
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and told me that he would get super pissed if
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: anyone touched the bathroom.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Okay, hey, not your house, buddy. Why don't you go
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: get super pissed about not having a job? Let's do
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: something about that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get really pissed about being unemployed. He proceeded to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: hide the tools from us like a little baby. I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: was not aware of this. On Friday, I was just
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: not feeling like having him over. He'd been over a lot,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and I just needed some me time. And honestly, I
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: was finding crap all over my house that he had
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: left behind, like piles of clothes, empty juice containers, just
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: crap all over my house, and I was annoyed.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: What is this guy, a freaking seven-year-old?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: My juicy containers.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: My juicy juices on the couch.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: He's just laying on the couch squeezing juice boxes into
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: his mouth and throwing them.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: When my roommate got home, she had lost all patience
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: with the bathroom and proceeded to find all the stuff
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: he had hidden and started painting. I just didn't give
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: a crap. I was annoyed with my boyfriend for having
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: a significant amount of time to work on this and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: not getting it done. So I didn't stop her. Anyways,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: my roommate ended up posting a status update on Facebook
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: about painting the bathroom and my boyfriend saw it and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: freaked out. He started texting both of us to F off,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: not to ask for help anymore, that he was betrayed.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: And that I didn't listen to him about him wanting
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to finish his project.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: It's not yours. Yeah. It's not yours. It's mine. It's
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: my house.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy is annoying.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: It's simple. Go get... Hey, you know what you can do?
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: I've got a fun project for you. Get a job.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: Stop drinking juice boxes in my house. I was going
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: to get around to it. I just had 200 more
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: juice boxes to drink.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: He seriously blew up. I told him and I meant
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: it that I didn't anticipate him getting this upset about it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I thought he was joking because I don't see it
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: as something to get into World War III over. So
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Friday night, there was a bunch of back and forth
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: about him being super angry and it trickled into Saturday morning.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: He then demanded that me and my roommate sand the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: paint that was put up and put the bathroom exactly
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the way it was before she started painting. Dude, what?
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: No.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: How did this conversation go into a day later when
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: it should have ended with you being like, that's great,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: let's end this?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I told him that... This was unreasonable and that we
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: would need to compromise so we can move forward. That
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: there is still a lot of work that needs to
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: be done in the bathroom and she only got the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: first part done. So now we can move on to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the second part. He said that he wasn't going to
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: help me anymore. That he didn't want to come to
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: my house anymore. Basically not to ask him to help
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: out anymore because the answer would be no.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Thank God. I mean, yeah. I didn't want you to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: help out anyway because the thing is, you don't help,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: you hinder. I haven't been able to use my bathroom
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: in six weeks. Thanks for that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: I don't have my medicines. My medicines are taped up.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: The conversation was done after that. Yesterday, my roommate and
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I decided to strip some paint on the bathroom trim
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: because I want to repaint it and there's like 15
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: layers of paint on the trim. She once again posted
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: something on Facebook because it was really cool seeing all
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the different colors the bathroom had been over the years.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Once again, my boyfriend flies off the handle. He said
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that things are worse now because after the conversation on
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday, we both knew how important it was
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: for him to finish his project and we betrayed him,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: disrespected him and hurt him. He said that it was
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: obvious that I didn't listen to him and that my
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: roommate could have worked on any other project in the
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: house that needs attention. I told him that I couldn't
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: turn back time and it is what it is, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: we need a moving forward solution. I told him that
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: this is a team effort. There is no my project
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: in my home. No one was trying to be malicious
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and hurt him and that we would need to find
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a compromise. He said that the only compromise was to
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: put the entire bathroom back to the way it was before.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: And I told him that that wasn't reasonable because that's insane.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: This guy's 36. Reminder again, he's 36.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: How bad were your previous boyfriends?
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: If this isn't like immediately like smell you later.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I also told him that he made it perfectly clear
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: on Friday and Saturday that he didn't want to help
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: anymore and he didn't want to come over anymore. And
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: all he said was, and that is what you listen to.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: That's like the same thing. You're just going to let
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: me leave? You're just going to let me leave? I
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: told you I'm leaving and you're going to let me leave?
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: I told you I don't want to be here and
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: you're going to let me not be here?
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: This poor, poor man. The conversation ended with both of
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: us upset, talking in circles and a lot of repeating.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: He kept saying, you just don't get it. And what
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: is wrong with you? This morning, I guess he texted
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: my roommate about having fun finishing the bathroom alone. And
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: my roommate responded that he had ample time to do
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: it himself and didn't do it. So she will. And
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: she is more than capable. It ended up with my
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: boyfriend texting me that he will no longer come to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: my house. My roommate is there that she isn't to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: touch the bathroom anymore because she'll make it worse. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: since she is just temporary, she'll move out soon. Why
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: is he so obsessed with this bathroom?
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: And what are you going to do, like propose to him?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I told him that he was backing me into a
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: corner with statements like this and ultimately making me choose
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: between them, which is unfair and silly since it's over
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a bathroom, for crying out loud. He says it's more
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: than just a bathroom. It's about principle now and he
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: wants to finish it. That he wanted to do it
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: for me because he wanted to show me how much
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: he loves me. I ended it by saying that this
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: situation is too much drama for me and I don't
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: like being backed into a corner. What the heck, Reddit?
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Where do I go from here? Am I entirely wrong
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and should be grovelling?
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: You got it. How dare you? You've had the answer
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: this whole time?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Is my boyfriend totally over the top about this? Help
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: me move forward and do the right thing here. There's
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: an update.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: It sounds like you have the answer, dude. Come on.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Just do it.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: There's an update here. After my post, he was continuing
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: to blow up my phone with stuff like, how could
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: we do this to him? And that him painting my
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: bathroom was supposed to be something special that he was
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: giving to me. That he just wanted to see my
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: face in such pride for something that he did for me. Dude,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you're weird.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Also, if that's how you felt, why did it take
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: you six weeks? And it didn't even take you six weeks.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: There was six weeks had gone by and you didn't
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I finally told him that I needed some space,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that he had been blowing on my phone for days
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: over this and I just needed time to think things through.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: He was very hesitant and agreed if I would give
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: him the chance to talk to me on the phone,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: which I allowed.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: What do you mean he agreed if you gave him
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: the chance?
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: He doesn't have to agree to that. You get to,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: girly pop, you're a human being.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: Whoa.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: You have agency. Like, whoa, look at that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: No one told me to do this. I'm just wax
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: on wax offing right now. Riley did.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I have a thing in my ear.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Riley tells me to do stuff, but that's besides the point.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: This is what I would do if I did have agency.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Like, just freaking, is this the only guy in your town?
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Do you live in Amazonia? Like, is it just you,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: 7,000 women and one guy? Is this the only man
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: in town? Is that why he's unemployed? All the women
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: figured everything out, built a utopia. There's no job for
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: him now. What are we doing?
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I hate this man. I absolutely despise him. And also
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I want one of his juice boxes. I pretty much
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: let it out and told him how ridiculous he was being,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that this was about follow through. He did not give
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: me space. Shocker. Within 24 hours, he was blowing up
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: my phone via text and how I was pushing us
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: apart and With space, and that space isn't what I needed.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: That I needed to meet and talk about this. Oh,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: it's good that he knows what you need. And you
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: know what you do? You know what you need? To
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: get rid of this guy! Get rid of him! And
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you also need to finish your bathroom!
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: He then told me something super sad.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: That he ran out of juice boxes.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: That's just like actually messed up.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: He couldn't use the bathrooms when he peed in his pants.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Isn't it bad that I kind of hope it's messed
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: up at this point?
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I'm so over this guy.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: All right. He then told me something super sad. That
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: he had envisioned us painting the bathroom and overall splattering
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: paint all over. And that he had envisioned the whole
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: process to be utterly romantic.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: This guy.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: What is sad about that?
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Is this guy Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde? The whole time
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: he's like, it was my bathroom to paint.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I was going to paint the bathroom.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: The reason why it's sad to her is because she
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: still loves him. And that's why it's sad. Because she
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, that would have been an experience we
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: would have had. Jeez. She's so enthralled by this dude.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: How are you in love with this guy?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I would rather do, I think, anything else in the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: world than that.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: But you're not in love with this man. It truly
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: cannot be that good.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: She is.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: Talking about vibes, go get yourself a vibe and replace
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: this man with that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Because there's no way it's that good. There's no way.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: There's no way. That's so sad. There's no way. Then
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: he told me something really sad.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: Which, by the way, that was a lie he concocted
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: to try to make you feel bad.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: And I'm so annoyed that it worked.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I was completely floored by the comparison to some rom-com.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: He made an ultimatum, which I hate, but basically it
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: was that I show up at a certain location in
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: our city at a certain time. And if I show up,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: then we will be happy. And if I don't, then
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: we will break up. What? Is this guy living in
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a movie? Like, did they sign a contract? It's like
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: one day when they like meet up, you know, like
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: that one day every year. He's like, if you, if
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: you come to this location at this time. We will
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: be together. If you don't show up, if you are
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: one minute late, that's it. We're done. Like, what?
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I would gather everyone I could who was aware of
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: the situation, we would roll out to that spot together,
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: and we would all go, loser! I'm breaking up with you,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: by the way, and I'm real happy about it. Have
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: fun painting someone else's bathroom, which you probably won't do anyway,
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: because you are a lazy juice muncher.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: This is crazy.
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: It was some weird crap from a movie.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I chose to go only to see if there was
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: anything left between us, if I felt anything, because I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't honestly sure how. OP, you're also sick in the mind.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening here, but my God, let
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: him go.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Please.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: OP, I want to transfer you $ 7 million. All I
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: need is all your personal information, your social security, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: the three numbers on the back of your mom's credit card.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: But as soon as I got there, I was sure.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: Oh no.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I walked around trying to find him and didn't see him,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: which was so relieving. I just didn't want him there.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I took a picture of where I was sitting and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: texted it to him and waited 15 minutes and then
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I left. Just as I was getting into my car,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: he texted me that he was in the bathroom and
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that I needed to come back, which I did not do.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Why is he in the bathroom?
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: What bathroom?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Remember, he's in the park bathroom. Remember this, what we
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: could have done? He's in his overalls or he's in
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: his coveralls with all the paint on him and he
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: just splatters her as she walks in.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: He's just in the woods and he's going to the
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: close up. He's just looking at her like this.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what is with this guy? What's wrong with him?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I told him that I was going home, and I lied.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: That I was already halfway home, so he would drop
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: the issue. We spoke on and off for a few days,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and I was just not feeling it anymore. Not feeling
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: him anymore. It only took everything. I knew that I
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: needed to break up with him. He asked me to
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: meet him for a drink, and I said okay because
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I had the intention of breaking up with him. Girl,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: just break up with him over text.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: He's done.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter at this point.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: Are these just like two lizards that became people and
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: don't know what's going on?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: One just wants to paint a bathroom.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: One just wants to.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: Well, once I turned into a human, I divorced my
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: lizard husband. We were lizarding up in this old abandoned house,
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: and my new human hands felt the urge to renovate.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Just the bathroom.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: This is insane.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: When I showed up, he was effing wasted like super wasted.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I couldn't have a conversation with him wasted. I had
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: my drink and he begged me to allow him to
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: come over and I told him no, that I was
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: going home alone. He started arguing with me in the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: bar and I just grabbed my stuff and went home.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Now I live four blocks from the bar, and in
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the time it took me to get home, he had
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: texted me 33 times and phoned me five times. He
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: was saying stuff like he couldn't believe that I left,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and he was begging me to let him come over.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I ended up muting my phone and going to bed.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: The next day, I woke up to 44 text messages
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: and 15 missed phone calls, and I just realized- Then
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I am totally done. Like, done, done. He ended up
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: texting me apologizing for the barrage of messages because he
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: was wasted. And he didn't remember doing it and was
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: mortified when looking through the messages. But it was too late.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And I really thought it through about how he has
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: an obvious regular use to booze. Wow, so he has
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: a drinking problem. Now, now she realized it. Blame it
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: on the juice. How he couldn't start anything unless he
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: was drinking. How every single issue we've ever encountered was
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: because he was wasted. How when he is wasted, he
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: can't hold down conversations. He becomes inappropriate. He was fired
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: from his job for drinking on the job. And how
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: he could never have one drink. And I'm talking 9 a.m.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: to the grocery store type of stuff. To defend him
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: for a second, he knew he had a drinking problem.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: He told me as much when we first started dating,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: but I didn't think it was this bad.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: He literally lost his job over it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I would like to just make a public announcement for
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: anyone out there. If someone comes to you and says
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I have a drinking problem, believe them. And also... One,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: believe it. And two, just think I would just assume
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: that it's the worst thing in the world because drinking
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: problems really don't get better. You tolerate them. People like,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you know, people get sober and stuff, but it's, you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: it always will come back. It's like it comes in waves,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's hard. It's hard to deal
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: with that. I had filed his drinking into the potential problem.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: We'll monitor category.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: What?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Because some of the things he did were signs of
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: heavy drinking, such as drinking doubles of whiskey at noon
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: and pounding down an entire 12-pack of drinks in a night.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I took the next few days and composed an email
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: because then I could say what I needed to say
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and make sure I was saying it the way I wanted.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I told him that he had a drinking problem and
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: that I would not be a part of it. That
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: his actions and attitude while drinking were Jekyll and Hyde.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: And that I could not live like this. He had
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: no sense of boundaries and blowing up my phone is ridiculous, unacceptable,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: and childish. I told him that he was a man-child
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: who hated to hear the word no. And a bunch
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: of other stuff. Yeah, I hate him. At least this
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: is stupid.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: I just want to workshop what was going on with
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: her husband.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Maybe husband was a CIA agent. Husband was John Kiriakou.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say John Curiosity.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Johnny Curiosity.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: That's who I am.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: I'm Johnny Curiosity right now.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Johnny Curiosity. Because I need to know how on earth
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: you got to a point where you.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, how much time went by? Like, a week?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Since, like, the first, like, you've betrayed me. Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Like, how, however much time went by is insanity.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I just, like, don't understand how anyone can actually, like,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: be patient and deal with this because I would be
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: out as soon as he spoke. Like, if he came
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: to me and was like, can I paint your bathroom? Okay,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I guess not from there. I'd be like, oh, yeah, why?
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: I'm out as soon as he's unemployed, drinking all my
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: apple juice on my couch all.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Day for six weeks. I'm out. I'm automatically out.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: I'm out when I meet him, and he's like, yeah,
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: I got a drinking problem, by the way.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Actually, I just lost my job.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Can I paint your bathroom? I really want to paint
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: your bathroom.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Can I stay at your place? I mean, did that happen?
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: Did he lose his job after you guys started dating?
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Like, I mean... All right, let's finish it up.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I broke up with him! Here it is.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: I love, yeah, no one's even, we don't even have
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: the energy to be happy about that.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Here it is a week later and I am still
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: getting a barrage of texts and Facebook messages about giving
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: us another chance. How I've given up on us. How
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: he'll change. He gave up drinking. He's a different person.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: He's trying to convince me to meet him for coffee
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to see if I feel a spark. He wants to
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: follow through on the stuff he promised me and how
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: he has learned his lesson. You know, all the right things.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I have not relented. I blocked him on all my accounts.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: On Friday, I will drop off the crap he left
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: at my house, and that will be that. I deserve
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: better than what he offered, so I'm going to take
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: some time from dating and focus on myself, get some
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: stuff done, figure out how to make grass grow in
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: my backyard, and get my garden and chicken coop going. Oh,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: that's the end. Aw, yay.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: I suggest going to therapy as well to figure out
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: what on earth made you think this guy.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: was worth any of your time at all, ever.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: This guy's just like, he's hopeless.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: I really thought she was going to be like, so
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: I went to get coffee with him. Yeah, me too.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: So I went to get coffee.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: To see if there's a spark. I'm like, girl, if
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: there's a spark, it's you. Sparking, you're covered in gasoline.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: You're on fire now.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Stop, don't do that. Don't.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: My guy, take a long walk off a short pier.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: This is unbelievable.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: And that's the end of the story. We're going to
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: read the next one.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Hey, this is Riley, the host that can't really read
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: that well. We're going to get back to the stories,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: but here's three minutes worth of ads from our sponsors.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: I tried to pull back from babysitting, and I got
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: cut off by my family.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: You do a really good job.
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: In short, I agreed to help look after my cousin's
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: child due to skyrocketing daycare costs as a temporary fix.
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: I would give them one day a week. The understanding
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: between me, my cousin, and his wife was that this
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: was temporary. As stated, my cousin seems to have forgotten
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: that part. He now expects me to be down there
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: every week. Between drive time and waiting for his wife
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: to get home and take over, that's an entire day
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: where I do nothing but travel or babysit. I spend
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: more hours a day watching his child than I do
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: at my own part-time position with no compensation. He intends
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: for me to keep this schedule clear to fall. As
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: he signed up for multiple college courses and decided that
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: to accommodate this schedule, I'll be there every week and
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: keep not only the toddler, but a newborn as well.
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: At no point was I consulted about this idea. He's
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: already signed up for courses and just sprung his plan
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: on me the last time I was over. By the way,
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: this comes from user throwaway sitter. And if you want
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: OKStoryTime subreddit.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I'm Keon.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I'm Riley.
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: And us two goofy goofballs are going to give our advice.
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: We don't know everything. Us two only know so much, guys.
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: So let us know what you do in the comments
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: down below. From my perspective, I'm down to one day
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: a week to myself. And I spend most of it
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: just trying to recharge. I never leave the house now,
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: except to go to work, get groceries, or... go to
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: their house. Between extended hours at work and babysitting, I
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: have no energy for any of my hobbies that help
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: me decompress.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: I am completely burnt out.
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: The thought of keeping that up for months is doing
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: something to my mental health. I feel like I am
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: just a means to an end, since when my cousin's
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: wife gets home, I am rushed out of the house
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: as she and the baby have somewhere to be. I
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: feel like I'm being taken advantage of because I tried
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: to help once, and I know that my relatives understood
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: that it wasn't a long-term fix to their problem. At
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: the same time, I understand my cousin and his family
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: couldn't have expected the sudden hike in daycare cost. And
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: I know they're struggling financially. So why did they get
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: a new baby?
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Those cost money.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Those cost money. Why do we get another one?
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: My cousin is trying very hard to get his degree
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: and do better by his family while his wife works
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: long hours to keep them afloat. I know they don't
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: need added stress on top of everything else. which includes
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: having a second child on the way. I've only held
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: out this long because I love the kid I watch.
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: Recent events are actually why I made this post. I
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: told my cousin that we'd have to see if I
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: was available in the fall, which he seemed okay with. Afterwards,
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: older relatives reached out to me about this conversation, urging
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: me towards keeping up the current arrangement. This has frustrated
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: me greatly. But I also wonder how much stock there
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: is in the idea that I should suck it up
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: because they have bigger problems than my being exhausted. So, Reddit,
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: am I the a-hole for wanting to pull back from
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: this arrangement? And we have a verdict. Obviously, it's not
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: the a-hole. But what does OP do, Riley?
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh, oh, Riley.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Honestly, at this point, if you love the kid, just
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: adopt it. Adopt the kid. Have them pay for it.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I don't even think they'd realize that their kid's gone.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Just pick one. Don't pick two. Pick one of them.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I'll lessen the burden by taking 50%. No, no, no,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: don't do that.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Well, she said they were struggling financially. Just take one
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: of the kids in.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: That sounds like an ish you, not an ish me
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: kind of thing. You know, that's your fault.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: What do you want? What do you want? Do you
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: want to say no?
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: You can't make your cake and eat it too at
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: the same time, you know?
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Just, I don't know, if you want to help him out,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: take the kid. If you really want to be somebody.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: We have an update.
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: First, I want to thank the users here for giving
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: me perspective. It became clear as I read comments that
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: I was being taken advantage of. And while I feel
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: for my cousin's problems, I am not responsible for and
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: cannot fix them. Per the advice given, I confronted my
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: cousin directly and tried to talk things out. I told
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: my cousin that if I was going to keep up
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: the arrangement through autumn, I wanted the summer off from babysitting.
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: I also said we should discuss compensation later. when he
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: got home from class. Unfortunately, this made things worse. For
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: the rest of the morning, I was dictated to ask
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: what I could feed the kid, what tasks we could do, etc.
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: It was apparent over a series of texts and calls
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: that I was no longer a helper, but the help.
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: A joke about the toddler wanting a certain food got shot.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: down rudely to be honest ended up making me cry
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: because it was so unexpectedly mean when i was just
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: joking his wife visited for lunch and brought up that
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: i wanted a break she demanded to know why And
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: when I explained that I was stressed out at any
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: time for myself, I was told that I was being unreasonable.
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: The wife's made it clear I can't be stressed out
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: because I'm a single part-timer compared to her as a
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: full-time worker that still has to come home and be
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: a wife and a mother. I realized at that point
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: that my cousin and his wife considered my time somehow
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: less valuable than theirs. I have not been back since.
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: They have cut all contact with me for the time being.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: though other relatives have made it clear they think I
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: blew things out of proportion and I am in the wrong.
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: This has been extended to being left out from family events.
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: I do miss the kid I babysit and I am
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: hurt that she had a recent hospital stay as I
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: was not told. It appears I am only allowed to
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: be a part of her life so long as I
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: go to her parents despite having taken care of her
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: since She was months old and I've often provided for
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: her financially. OB did nothing wrong. OB just said, I
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: am burnt out. I am temporary help. And now she
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: gets cut off from everything. What do we do, Riley?
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: If I found myself in this situation, you just gotta leave.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Leave easy peasy. You're not getting compensated. You're just going
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: to be losing contact with family members that just want
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: to use you, which sucks not being able to see
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: the kid. I get that.
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: Do you think we should ask the family like, hey,
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: do you want to hear my side of the story?
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: Or like, can I explain myself? Or they're just like, no,
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: we don't.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: But the way they've already treated her and gone about it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: How do you think that's going to go down?
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: You're just a kid.
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: You don't know anything. That aside, there is a silver lining.
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: With my newfound free time and desire to break the
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: worst store home cycle, I adopted a rescue dog. Meet
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: Kaladin Stormbark. He's helped me get out of the house
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: and re-engage with the world. And that's done wonders for
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: my mental health after the problems I had in my
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: last post.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: And that's where it ends now.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: And I really just wanted to let those who had
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: offered me help with my first post know how thankful
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: I am for their insight and advice. I'll be the
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: first to admit, I've got a weak spine. So it
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: was game-changing to have a bunch of strangers reassure me
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: and give me the desire to stand up for myself.
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: Things might not have worked out this time, but I
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: know ultimately confronting the problem and communicating was for the best.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Look at you, OP. Another lesson in adulthood. I'm so
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: proud of you.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Good job.
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it does suck that everyone looks at you like
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: a little kid and you don't know what you know, but.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Taking steps like this makes you a big adult.
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, your spine's getting nice and strong. That is the
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: end of that story, but we have another one coming
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: right up.
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: My father demanded I attend a trip I already said.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: No to months ago.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: I'll say no again. I.
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: 19 male, spent years in scouting. To be blunt, while
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: I am an Eagle Scout, the experience was.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Hellish for me.
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: And the day I turned 18, I was done. I
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: made it clear to my family from day one that
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: I have zero intent of ever registering as an adult leader, volunteering,
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: or participating in any scouting events again. My dad, however,
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: decided to stay involved and take on running trips. He
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: even opened his own troop. Recently, he planned a camp
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: out for his group. He is a total novice when
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: it comes to actual outdoor logistics, to the point where
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: he and the other adults were planning to pack heavy
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: cast iron skillets and stone gear for a backpacking setup,
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: which later morphed into drive-up car camping because they didn't
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: know what they were doing. I told them weeks ago
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: I was not going. Despite this, he and my mom
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: have been trying to force me to go anyway. Every
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: time I held my boundary, the goalposts moved and the
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: manipulation tactics started flying.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: I hate when that happens when they start flying.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just walk.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: They fly now.
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: By the way, this comes from Sunsteel. And if you
• 46:52
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• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I'm Sophia.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: I'm Keon.
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do.
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: When I reiterated I wasn't registering as an adult, my
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: dad tried to claim that if I can't commit to scouting,
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: I must not have any intent to be truthful with
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: him in life.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Where's the correlation in that sentence?
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what- You're a liar if you're not a Boy Scout,
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: and I've always said that.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: You're not an honest man if you can't be an
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Eagle Scout.
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: When I refused to go on the trip, he immediately
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: pulled the victim card, whining that, We can't do this
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: without ya. When I didn't fall for that, he resorted
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: to vague threats, saying, Oh, I have many things I
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: could also say to you.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Say it.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Say them.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Say it.
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: They then hit me with scouting's youth protection. Oh, they
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: then hit me with scouting's youth protection rules, telling me
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: that because I'm an unregistered 19 year old, I wouldn't
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: be allowed to speak to any of the scouts on
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: the trip, meaning they essentially want to force me to
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: come along as a silent pack mule. When none of
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: that worked, it turned into demanding.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I help pack.
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: All heavy boxes out of the garage and move cars
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: around to get them ready. We've got a little bit left.
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: This is so ridiculous.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine, like, you could do this the hard
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: way or the harder way? You could do it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: You could do it or you could do it. There
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: is no other option.
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: One option, you're going to like it because you can
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: talk to them. The other option is you can't speak
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: a word.
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you have to be silent and also help us.
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: And also, I know you don't want to go, but
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: you have to.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: I just say, hey, Dad, scout for another scout.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, go find someone else, buddy.
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: Maybe you should have learned all of this stuff that
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: you forced me to learn.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Well, we got a little bit left.
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: My dad does have some back pain right now, so
• 48:37
  Speaker 8: I offered basic help at home, lifting a couple of
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: heavy items so he wouldn't physically hurt himself.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: In the garage.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Is it real back pain?
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's like, oh, my back. But I drew the
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: line at being dragged into prepping for or attending an
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: event I explicitly opted out.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Of months ago. Now my parents are furious.
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: They're claiming that if the trip falls apart or if
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: they can't manage the gear, it's entirely my fault for
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: being selfish and unsupportive. And that I'm ruining things for everyone.
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: My take is that if you willingly take on a
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: project you lack the ability to pull off without forcing
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: an unwilling third party to.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Bail you out, that's on you.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Indeed it is.
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: Am I the a-hole for holding my boundary and reflecting?
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: to help run or attend his scouting trip? Absolutely not.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: That's ridiculous.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Especially the way he went about it.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: If he went a little bit more, can you please
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: do this? If anything, not doing it for me, do
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: it for the kids. But he was like, I can
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: say meaner things to you and I can use this
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: against you.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: read the next one.
• 49:42
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• 49:46
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• 49:48
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• 49:51
  Speaker 2: My sister gossiped about my dating history behind my back.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Not very XOXO gossip, girl. I, 37 female, have one daughter,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: eight female. Jenny from my ex-boyfriend, 36 Mal. My ex-boyfriend
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: was a man-child who I stuck myself with for three
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: years because I was convinced he would magically grow up
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: someday as long as I helped him. I'll be honest,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I've definitely had a bad taste in men when I
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: was younger. I became pregnant and two months after giving birth,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: he walked out. He claimed he couldn't take the stress
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: of fatherhood. He didn't want any custody and now pays
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: child support, surprisingly, without complaint. My sister, 41 female, has
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: been my biggest supporter. She has a wonderful husband who
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: she's dated since high school and they now have four kids.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Something that was pretty common was when we were in
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: our teens and 20s, I'd date jerks. I'd run to
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: her whenever they did something stupid or hurtful. By the way,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: this comes from throwaway00. And if you want to send
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: your own stories, go to the r slash OK story
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: time subreddit. I'm Riley.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I'm Keon.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: And we're going to read this goofily. If you guys
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: have anything you'd like to add, please add it down
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: below because we're not taking this serious. Of course, she
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: did tell me to break up with them. But my
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: stupid younger self always ran back. She got pretty frustrated,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: but would still comfort me. Believe me, I'm not proud
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: and have certainly matured since my daughter was born. A
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: couple of times she would introduce me to some actually
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: very nice guys. I even went on a couple of dates.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: But for some reason, I only felt attracted to rude
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: a-holes with crappy haircuts. Please don't ask what was going
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: through my head. I literally have no idea. I still
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: feel embarrassed. thinking about it. My sis and her husband
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: got married pretty young, so they couldn't afford a nice honeymoon.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Now they've been saving for years and finally booked a
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: two-week stay in some tropical resort. She's very happy. One
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: of her kids is in and out of state college.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: so she didn't want to ask him to watch his
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: siblings along with attending school. Plus, they aren't exactly rich
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: and can't afford a long-term stay nanny or whatever. I
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: agreed to watch the other kids. They're not toddlers or brats.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: They're well-behaved, so it's no big deal to me. I
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: was happy to do it. After my daughter. I went
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: out with one or two guys, but nothing serious. Recently,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I met this really nice guy at my work. It
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: was actually my sister who introduced him to me. We
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: all work in the same huge office building, just different departments. Keon,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: do you think this is going to last?
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: He doesn't have the crappy haircut, or he's an a-hole.
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: I hope it lasts, but OP, I don't think you've
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: learned your lesson. I think you have a taste in
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: bad men. That's what you're used to, and you like it.
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: You don't find them boring.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Ugh.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: We had some shared hobbies and started talking during our breaks.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: We didn't really spend more than 10 minutes together at
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: a time. He finally asked me on a date. Strangely enough,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: after about 30 minutes, I couldn't stop sneezing. At first,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: I just thought it was an allergy season. We went
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: out a couple of more times after that, and the
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: same thing happened.
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: My gosh, OP is allergic to nice guys.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you might be right.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: It makes sense.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I'm allergic to guys with good haircuts because of their
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: product they use. Once, I accidentally took his jacket home.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: My daughter got sick too. I feel pretty stupid for
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: not asking earlier, but he mentioned how he has four
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: cats who he loves.
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: How has that not been brought up? And also, when
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: you're around him, you're sneezing incredibly a lot. I would
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: be like, okay, it's either allergy season or you have cats.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pets are mentioned within the first date.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, do you have any kids? No, but I
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: have fur babies.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Both me and my daughter are severely allergic to cats.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Even when he was wearing fresh clothes, it didn't help
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: that much. Finally, after a month, I broke up with him.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: He offered that we could try a few different things
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: like prescription allergy pills or something. I apologized and just
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: said it's better if we both go our own ways.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I feel awful, but the experience taught me that even
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: though I enjoyed our time together, I wasn't so invested
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: in this relationship anymore. that I'd go through the trouble
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: to research difficult remedies or put my daughter in danger.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: I felt that it was best to break it off
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: soon before we got too serious. He seemed sad, but
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: said he understood. We parted on good terms. My sister
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: seemed a bit miffed and didn't say much. Only a
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: couple days ago, I heard her going on about me.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I got off work early that day, which she knew.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I realized I forgot something and came back. While I
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: was at it, I decided to walk around my sister's
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: department to pick up another file and say hello. Door
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: to the break room was open and I could hear
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: a small group of women talking. My sis was saying
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: how ridiculous it is that I keep rejecting good men
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: For stupid reasons. That the fact my daughter has no
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: father is my fault and I should be embarrassed. She
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: made some joke about me being an attention seeker who
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: spreads my legs for any man I know won't respect me.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I haven't done anything like that in years. I was
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: shocked and extremely hurt. I stormed out and texted her
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: that I will no longer babysit her kids for the vacation.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's okay. You can do that too.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: That's an a-hole move.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: No, I mean.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: That's an a-hole move.
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: I feel like sister had this conversation with you.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. So she continues. She got desperate
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: and kept apologizing and begging to talk. I've just been
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: ignoring her. My mom said that she was very wrong,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: but it's not fair to ruin her second honeymoon she's
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: been waiting for for so long. Mom is very old
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: and currently has lung terminal illness. She's in no state
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: to babysit anyone's kids. Some of my friends mentioned that
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: my sister did deal with my a-hole exes for a
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: long time. and frustrating amount of time.
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, especially when she's telling you stop going for these guys,
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: and then you always come back crying to her.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: I should cut her some slack. She has really helped
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: me in the past. The honeymoon starts the day after tomorrow,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: and I've heard she still can't find a good babysitter
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: she could afford. I'm starting to feel bad because she
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: seems so desperate and sad. Am I the a-hole? And
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: just to clarify, we do work in the same company.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: We have an update. Yes, you're the a-hole.
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: I think you're the a-hole. You committed to this. Yeah,
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: what she said was mean. She shouldn't be gossiping about
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: you like that. She should have said it to your face.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Dude, when you love someone, And they keep making bad decisions. Time, time, time, time, time, time, time. Again,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: and we all know who that person is. We all
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: are thinking about them. And they keep doing it even
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: though they come to you. And gosh, they come on
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: their knees begging for advice. And you meet them. You
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: go to them on the ground. And you meet them
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: where they are. And you say, hey, I see where
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: you're coming from. I'm here with you. And guess what?
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: They fail it's like the boy who cried wolf like
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: a good example oh my gosh yes and you're like
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: yeah I'm not gonna listen to you or like it's
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: the other way around it's like yeah I'm not gonna
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: hear your cries and.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: It's not like the sister is she's always meeting her
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: with unconditional love.
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: But yeah she's the one OP sister is helping her
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: yeah set her up with good guys yeah and.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: It makes sense why she feels this way and op
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: you have been working for years it does suck.
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: She hypes you up to these guys oh i have
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: my sister's great oh my god my sister's great and
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: she probably gets let down like not by just you
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: but like she's letting these other people down like she's
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: hyping you up she's put enough energy and time to
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: be like trying to convince these guys to take.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: You on a date and you let her down you
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: embarrass her.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Agreed i think you should put your pride aside and
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: stick around i haven't gotten back to my old dating
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: habits for years now I got a good professional therapist
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: around six years ago. She's really helped me work through
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: my issues that caused me to act like that. About
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: a year into therapy, I sat down with my sister
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: and apologized for always dumping my issues onto her and
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: then proceeding to not follow her advice. We even had
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: a therapy session together where she said she forgave me.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: I thought it brought us a lot closer. I asked
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: her several times about it during the next few years.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: And she just said she had moved on and it
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: was fine. I'm not angry about how she feels. She's
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: entitled to her emotions. I just wish that she had
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: discussed it with me or at least tried to explain
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: how she felt. I love her a lot and would
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: have been happy to have a heart to heart. I'm
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: just very hurt that she gossiped and insulted me to
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: our co-workers, most of whom don't even know me personally
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: that well. Plus, the way she put it made it
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: sound like I was doing that crap when she knows
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: dang well that was years ago. I know I'm not perfect,
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: but that crossed the line. He says, I do regret
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: lashing out the way I did now that I've cooled down,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: though I'm still furious at her.
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: Sure, fair.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, have a conversation when she gets back from her honeymoon.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: This isn't something, please don't ruin her honeymoon. Oh my gosh.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, she's still my sister,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: no matter how hurt I feel. And I want to
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: work through this And at least try and stay in
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: each other's lives. I'll post an update later once things
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: have calmed down. I've decided to babysit the kids.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: Yes!
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Babysit the kids.
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: Have a very adult conversation with your sister. When she's
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: back from her honeymoon.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: When she's back. My brother-in-law and her have planned this
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: trip for literal years. So, I believe they definitely earned it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I love my niece and nephews and planned a few
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: fun activities for us. Anyways, that I don't want to miss.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: It's for them.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Not her.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: I guess it's good she'll be gone for the next
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks soon. I'll have time to get my
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: thoughts together and in order and figure out how to
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: express what I want to say.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Ah, this is just sick. sibling thing truly yeah like
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Your sister was the tissue box.
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: Your sister was the, you know, the emotional punching bag.
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: And she's like, oh, why won't she have that heart-to-heart
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: to me?
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: OP.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: She's probably had that heart-to-heart with you so many times.
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, right.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: And all you did was break her heart by doing
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: the complete opposite.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Dude, imagine talking to your friend for three hours for
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: two weeks straight at night and just never take your advice.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: It's stuff like that, dude.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would piss me off.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Dude, I've had so many frustrating conversations with my friends
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: that just won't get their head out of their butts.
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: It's just like, bro, come on.
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: And that's the end of this story.