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- 0:12I'm Stephanie Coxson.
- 0:14I'm Kathy Anderson Martin.
- 0:15And we are two women influencing real life.
- 0:18So let's twirl.
- 0:22You know, last year, Kathy, we had on Zen Hudding Cup from Moms for America who kind of blew us away.
- 0:28Moms Across America.
- 0:29Moms Across America.
- 0:30Thank you.
- 0:31Thank you.
- 0:32That's a different organization.
- 0:34Moms across America.
- 0:35Also lovely, but just not me.
- 0:37Yeah.
- 0:37I know caffeine yet.
- 0:39So just to clarify.
- 0:40Anyway, yeah.
- 0:41So moms across America and really woke us up to what was happening at our restaurants, our favorite restaurants, to the point that you finally listened, Kathy, and said, okay, I'm going to calm it down and maybe not go to all the places you've been going.
- 0:56No, I did not say that.
- 0:58I just said one, I said I was more conscious.
- 1:00You you exaggerated Stephanie as to where I go and frequent.
- 1:05But I just said that Zen when she was on with us before, and I told her as we were on today, um, she disrupted my love affair with my baguette at Panera every so often.
- 1:16But uh, I just needed to feel I need to bring that up.
- 1:18I don't go there often, so don't exaggerate it, Stephanie.
- 1:21Can you not just agree with me?
- 1:23I just feel I just think I'm having a little PTSD and it's Zen's fault.
- 1:27But you know, have her back anyway.
- 1:29We have her back.
- 1:30I'm Stephanie Coxson.
- 1:32I'm Kathy Anderson Martin.
- 1:33And we are two women inspiring real life.
- 1:36So let's twirl.
- 1:37I am so thankful for you coming back on the show today, Zen, because there's new information out about our our our food, how Maha movement is impacting things and just where everything is going.
- 1:50And hopefully you scare Kathy a little bit more so that she eats at less places.
- 1:57Yeah, well, you know, I'm not really out to scare people, but that is that is one of the impacts of the news that we have to share.
- 2:03It is really bad news.
- 2:04And it it is it's not fun to hear.
- 2:07So I'm hoping we could bring some levity to it.
- 2:09I'm hoping we could talk about some solutions.
- 2:11But yeah, there's there's some there's some really bad news about the military food that I'd like to share.
- 2:18And when Robert Kennedy came out and introduced the, you know, the real food, you know, kind of effort that's going to go on, one of those the big impacts is school lunches and military, and that's how he talked about it can start to transform things and prison, yes.
- 2:34But it can begin to transform things, and we know that there are neural neurological behavioral issues linked simply to the food that people are eating.
- 2:42And so this could be huge for for a lot of people, even if they're not completely on board.
- 2:47So can you fill us in on exactly what is happening?
- 2:52Yeah, absolutely.
- 2:53Well, you know, about three weeks ago, maybe longer now, we gave um the administration, our military food results.
- 3:03We gave it to the EPA, the USDA, and um, and the HHS.
- 3:08And I before you continue, Zen, when you say food results, you do testing on the food that they eat, correct?
- 3:14Yes, yes.
- 3:15So we send it to an accredited lab, but actually we don't even touch it, right?
- 3:18So we had other military, we had military personnel gather um 16 samples of of uh cafeteria lunches from six different locations, and then we had uh one person order MREs online that are these same MREs that are eaten by the military, sent directly to a lab.
- 3:38So we never touched them and had nothing to do with that.
- 3:41We just made sure it happened.
- 3:43And um then we had the accredited lab do testing on these 40 samples, um, 16, 16 cafeteria 24 MREs um for glyphosate pesticides, I think it was over 240 pesticides, uh, 180 different uh veterinary drugs and hormones, heavy metals, including aluminum and um minerals as well.
- 4:07So we also tested for PFOS, PFA slash PFOS and thalates.
- 4:13So we did it's an incredible amount of testing thanks to the Sentner Academy, children's health defense, and our moms across America supporters that paid for this testing.
- 4:22Um it's it's a lot.
- 4:23It was um massive amount of data, and the results were extremely disturbing.
- 4:29We found the highest levels of pesticides in any of the testing that we've done.
- 4:32They've fast food and the school lunches had 27, 29 different pesticides.
- 4:37Military food had 62 pesticides.
- 4:40One had 1,300 parts per billions of pesticides.
- 4:43That is really, really high.
- 4:44Why on earth would it be so different with our military versus our exactly what I was thinking?
- 4:51Why, why?
- 4:52I I do I don't know.
- 4:54And you know what else is really concerning is that um a hundred percent of these pesticides are made in China.
- 5:01Now, I don't like to be xenophobic about things, you know, I don't like to like pit people, but that's just concerning to me because we are giving China 15 to 20 billion dollars of our money for these pesticides that go in our food, and then our military is negatively impacted by that.
- 5:19I just don't think that's a good idea.
- 5:20I don't think we should be giving China that much money for pesticides that are clearly harming our military, they cause cancer, you know, heart damage, neurological damage, um, miscarriages, birth defects, all kinds of things.
- 5:36And our military is not going to be performing at their highest capacity if they're eating these chemicals.
- 5:44100%.
- 5:45You know, and I would just want to clarify when you said you don't want to be xenophoto.
- 5:49Ah, I can't even talk today.
- 5:51I need coffee people, but you know, about you know, China, but I don't know that everyone understands that they don't have the the level of caution that we have here in the US, and that they can put anything in a bottle, label it, and send it off.
- 6:06There is not the infrastructure that we tend to have in order to check on things.
- 6:11And you know, for example, you know, if they're working in let's say giant glue vats, a human falls in, they keep working.
- 6:18They don't necessarily stop to get that human out.
- 6:21That person dissolves in there and they keep working.
- 6:23I don't know that really the average person understands the work conditions in China.
- 6:28I think life is considered cheaper in general.
- 6:31Yes, yeah.
- 6:32So I just they definitely do not have the safety standards or a quality control standards that we have, and even ours are abysmal.
- 6:41I'll get into ours.
- 6:42You know, they don't compare to ours, and our even ours are terrible.
- 6:45So we're very concerned about the 62 pesticides that were found in the military food, especially.
- 6:51We also found 95% of the military food samples contain glyphosate, and we know glyphosate causes cancer, endocrine disruption, or neurological damage, nervous system damage.
- 7:01It damages sperm, it androgenizes baby girls.
- 7:05It is it is what as Dr.
- 7:06Don Huber says it's going to make DDT look like mouthwash.
- 7:10It is a very harmful herbicide.
- 7:12It's the most widely used in the world, and it was found in 95% of the samples at concerning levels.
- 7:17Um, in addition, 85.7% of the of the glyphosate that is made in the world um is made from companies that are owned by China.
- 7:26So we are also importing about 10,000 um or was it 15,000?
- 7:32Um my memory, I'd have to get this down.
- 7:35It's either 10 or 15,000 shipments of glyphosate just from China come to United States every year.
- 7:42Um, again, 15 to 20 billion dollars worth of pesticides.
- 7:44So we are we're giving China an awful lot of money to poison our people, and I don't like that.
- 7:49Now, but if the pesticides came from the USA, I still would be just as upset.
- 7:53It's just doesn't make sense to be poisoning, you know, our people.
- 7:58And um, and we also found veterinary drugs and hormones that were detected that are banned in most countries and not allowed for human use.
- 8:06Same with the pesticides or some of the pesticides that are completely banned in other countries, um, as well as these veterinary drugs.
- 8:12And and and some of them are banned here as well, like here and the Canada and the U, which is very unusual.
- 8:20So that to me means either illegal use or the meat that these veterinary drugs were found in are being are coming from China or Africa or South America, right?
- 8:30They're coming from some other country.
- 8:31And I just think it would be a great idea if we fed our American military American meat.
- 8:37If the animals they were eating, you know, the meat that they were eating came from America.
- 8:42That would just be a wise choice.
- 8:43The same with all of the rest of the food.
- 8:45You know, that it's gonna be very tricky though with fruit.
- 8:47We import 60% of the fruit that we eat in America.
- 8:50Yes, right.
- 8:51A lot very high percentage of our beans.
- 8:54The soybeans that are in organic food, 80% of that comes from other countries, even though 70% of the soybeans that we grow, we export.
- 9:02It's like a weird, why are we doing that?
- 9:05Why aren't we growing for our people, right?
- 9:08So this this is, I mean, it's troubling on so many fronts, because it's one, you start with the food issue, you know, the poison in the food, but it also becomes a national security issue, I think, when you're um weakening our the own the people that are there to protect us.
- 9:27And then it becomes an economic issue, as you said.
- 9:30We're exporting 70% of a crop while we import 80% of the same crop.
- 9:36Yes, you know, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
- 9:39Um, so there's so many, you know, if you're listening to this and say, oh, well, it's a food thing and whatever, and that's not there are a whole lot of other issues connected to this um that you've brought up and articulated.
- 9:52As you received these samples, you said you forwarded them on.
- 9:55What has there been any response from the powers that be?
- 9:59Yes, there have.
- 10:00Actually, I went to the dietary guidelines announcement on is it Wednesday?
- 10:06I believe it was Wednesday this week in D.
- 10:08I was in DC walking the halls and talking with staffers about the pesticide immunity shield that's being put in the farm bill, right?
- 10:16Which we have to prevent.
- 10:17But at the same time, there was a dietary guidelines announcement announcements, which which I went to, and they announced there that Fort Bragg and one other military base are changing over their foods, you know, getting rid of a lot of the processed foods.
- 10:30They're cooking, you know, real food in the cafeteria again, and they're serving food that the soldiers now actually want to eat.
- 10:37Before 50% of it was being thrown away.
- 10:39It was so terrible that the soldiers were spending their hard-earned money to go out and buy food that, you know, that that was better than what was in the cafeteria.
- 10:50So now they're actually enjoying the food and they're lining up to eat it and it's changed.
- 10:55So that is going to be rolling out in 20 military bases within two months.
- 11:00Because of this testing.
- 11:02Yeah, directly because of this testing.
- 11:04And prisons are going to be experiencing the same thing.
- 11:06I don't know how many, but the prison system is getting an overhaul.
- 11:09And the school lunch system within the next, I think she said within this year, like within six months or something like that.
- 11:15I don't remember the time frame, but Secretary Brooke Rollins is totally committed.
- 11:18The only hiccup they have with that is that there's a far less um kitchen, scratch kitchen um tools, you know, the ovens and and mixers and things like that in kitchens.
- 11:30They've pretty much gutted them because the huge food system conglomerate said, oh, we should just make the foods somewhere else and then ship them to the schools and you guys reheat them in the microwave, right?
- 11:43Or in an oven, but they don't have ways to actually, you know, stoves and mixers and all that stuff to actually cook food from scratch.
- 11:50So there's got to be a lot more infrastructure stuff done with schools than was most military bases because they've been gutted of the kitchens.
- 11:58That's I I had no idea that the kitchens had been had been gutted like that.
- 12:02That's a little crazy.
- 12:04I'm curious.
- 12:05I was reading a study, and I I can't recall it at this point, but there was a study, and I'm hoping that you're familiar with it, where prisoners were actually changed the type of food that they were eating, and they they actually calmed down and had some behavior changes.
- 12:17Have you seen that study?
- 12:18Are you familiar with it by chance?
- 12:19Yes, I probably talked about it the last show that I was on with you.
- 12:23And so that's why you remember it.
- 12:25It's I talk about it every time.
- 12:26It's it's by Barbara Reed Stitt, who is a lifetime achievement award winner.
- 12:32Um, and she studied nutrition in schools and in prisons for years, for 20 years.
- 12:37And she, what she found in the prison system was first of all, they they supplemented with minerals and vitamins, right?
- 12:43Because the food quality was so low.
- 12:45And during that time, they noticed that the recorded acts of violence dropped 50 to 70% in that one to two weeks, just with additional minerals and supplements.
- 12:56And then they switched to whole foods.
- 12:58You know, they got rid of the sodas and chips and um candy bars and things like that, and they had whole foods.
- 13:04And within one year, the recidicism rate switched, meaning instead of 70% that you know, the people who left the prison, instead of 70% coming back and going back into prison within a year, they went out and stayed out.
- 13:17So that number 70% went out and stayed out.
- 13:20And then in the school system, out of 5,000 kids that they studied for a year, and they introduced whole healthy foods, um, really get, you know, getting rid of a lot of the sugar, and all of these, by the way, were GMO, you know, GMO food sprayed with glyphosate at the time.
- 13:35They didn't focus on that.
- 13:36They just focused on the real food part.
- 13:38Um, but that's essentially what happened was getting rid of a lot of that.
- 13:41And that school system, instead of 500 kids dropping out in a school of 5,000, only 14 dropped out.
- 13:47And a significantly higher number of the students went on to go to college.
- 13:52So, you know, we know what to do to support mental health and aggression in America, and that is to clean up the food supply.
- 14:02And as this administration is very wisely saying, it's to eat real food.
- 14:06So I am thrilled.
- 14:06I th I think this administration could go down as the greatest administration ever in this particular way.
- 14:12There's other things I they're doing, I don't agree with, but in this particular way, Trump has the ability to transform the food supply and health in America for generations to come.
- 14:24It would be the greatest act ever if he said, okay, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna support farmers to switch to a regenerative organic, growing real food in America.
- 14:34Imagine farmers waking up in the morning growing food for the military and for our students instead of food for China or Japan or you know, some other country, right?
- 14:43That how they would they feel.
- 14:45So if Trump supported that transition to regenerative organic food being grown here for the American military and American students, it would cost um less than 2% of the truth of the 1.5 trillion dollar military budget.
- 15:00Now, this is just from preliminary research with AI, right?
- 15:02You know, go look at all the transition costs and the procurement cost and the you know, all of that from the USDA and the DOD.
- 15:09Um, the number could be different, but that's what we've found so far.
- 15:13And I really hope that this administration looks into it and just says, you know what, it's worth it.
- 15:18Let's let's have the word military grade mean something regarding food.
- 15:23Let's have military grade food be the best.
- 15:26You know, Melania says that her toll tagline is be best.
- 15:30Well, in order for our military to be best, they have to have the best food.
- 15:34100%.
- 15:34Yeah, I believe it.
- 15:36Go ahead.
- 15:37I was just gonna say, um, as you were telling that about the link to aggression and other difficulties and so forth, you know, some people may be hearing those kinds of things for the first time.
- 15:49Um, can you share?
- 15:51I and you had shared the last time you were on you, you became on this quest because of a personal situation with your own child, right?
- 15:58About making if I'm I'm correct, had some food choices that can you share that?
- 16:03Because again, that may be for people just being like, I don't get it, you know, why why the link to you know aggression and uh performance and so forth.
- 16:11And from your personal experience, can you share that about why you got into this in the from the get-go?
- 16:17Yeah, sure.
- 16:18Well, in the very beginning, my eldest son Ben had um, you know, the the weird green stringy poop and crying and call like colic, like crying a lot when he was a baby, and I found out I had he had a milk allergy, so I had to stop drinking milk while I was breastfeeding him.
- 16:34And I just thought that was so weird because I grew up with parents saying drink a glass of milk, a full glass of meal.
- 16:39I had to sit at that table until I drank that full glass of milk every meal, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, you know, we got our milk from the farmer down the street, still had cream on top, and um, it was straight up raw milk, and you know, I I did enjoy it and it was good.
- 16:53But I and so to me, milk was an essential part of our diet, you know, especially whole milk.
- 16:59So that was weird, but I stopped, you know, having pizza and cheese, and it was felt devastating for a year while I breastfed him.
- 17:07And then he had more and more allergies.
- 17:09We didn't understand what was going on, and we had to get the allergies, that's right.
- 17:13The pin prick tests, you know, it was like torture, it's like 300 pen pricks on his back.
- 17:17It was horrible.
- 17:18I had to get my um his father to go do that instead because I could I couldn't handle it.
- 17:21And he had over 20 different allergies.
- 17:24So we had to cut back on all we had to do an elimination diet, all kinds of foods.
- 17:28Uh, and then his brother got autism symptoms when he was about eight years old, and out of nowhere, erratic behavior, aggressive, you know, screaming, grades drops from A's to D's.
- 17:39And I had learned about glyphosate and GMOs in the meantime, and I learned that, oh, wait a second, we need to go 100% organic.
- 17:47At first, with my eldest son, Ben, when he had an allergy where he almost almost died from a pecan in the stuffing at Thanksgiving, we went non-GMO, right?
- 17:56And that did improve his rash and his allergic reactions.
- 17:59But then when my second son had out um autism symptoms, I realized we had to go organic because glyphosate, which is sprayed on GMO crops as a weed killer.
- 18:09So it kills all the weeds, but it doesn't kill the GMO crop because the GMO crop is resistant to it.
- 18:14Glyphosate's not just sprayed on GMO crops, though.
- 18:17I learned it's sprayed on wheat and peas and beans as a drying agent.
- 18:21That's why it showed up in your Panera bread, Kathy, is because it's sprayed on wheat as a drying.
- 18:25I didn't want to go back to that zen, but mind you, but it's not it's not just Panera bread.
- 18:30It's it's all bread if it's not organic, right?
- 18:32I mean, it could be all bread.
- 18:33A lot of wheat is sprayed with glyphosate as a drying agent before harvest.
- 18:37Same with beans and peas and all of that.
- 18:39Um, and then the glyphosate ends up, you know, in our food supply.
- 18:43So that glyphosate destroys the gut bacteria.
- 18:47It can grow pathogenic gut bacteria.
- 18:49So our kids, when they have a lot of very high levels of pathogenic gut bacteria, I know I'm going into weeds here, but the lipopolysaccharides and the outer walls of their cells in your stomach, right?
- 19:00And then and in the vagus nerve, tell the brain to go and attack, like bad guys in the gut attack, right?
- 19:06And then it creates inflammation in the brain.
- 19:08And that inflammation causes the neuron endings to die.
- 19:12So then they they can't make eye contact, they don't make good decisions, they're not thinking as clearly.
- 19:18And so then you have behavioral issues, learning and behavioral issues in our kids because they have bat very high levels of bad gut bacteria, which is from glyphosate.
- 19:26Glyphosate's been proven to do that, to kill off the beneficial and allow for the growth of the pathogenic gut bacteria.
- 19:32So these levels of glyphosate in almost all of our food, unless it's organic, and even some organic can be contaminated, especially if it's fraudulently labeled, like the soy that's coming from other countries.
- 19:43They fraudulently label that in organic food to be organic and it's not a lot of the time.
- 19:49So I stay away from protein powders mostly, right?
- 19:52But that glyphosate that's in the majority of our foods is destroying our beneficial gut bacteria, affecting our behavior, aggression, or
- 20:00Uh affecting our prefrontal cortex to be able to make good decisions.
- 20:03And it's absolutely been proven that these pesticides contributed to depression.
- 20:10That's why farmers have some of the highest rates of suicide of any career and they cause neurological damage.
- 20:17So when I posted one day after the Stony Brook shooting that I wondered what type of food that shooter was eating, and that I would guarantee that it would be all junk food, right?
- 20:30That's the other thing that Barbara Reed Stitt said that there were the one thing that the serial killers, criminals, and parolees all had in common was not their socioeconomic background.
- 20:39It was not that they all lived in an urban hood, right?
- 20:42Or anything like that or their race, no matter who they were.
- 20:46Um, if they were violent, the one thing they had in common was that they bragged that they lived on junk food.
- 20:52They, you know, hot pockets and coke or pizza and Pepsi, right?
- 20:56They just had they lived on junk food.
- 20:58I I can't say those brand names.
- 21:00I'm just giving examples, right?
- 21:01But if that's not foretelling, I mean they lived on junk food.
- 21:04Yeah.
- 21:05And so when I when I said that on social media, I got slammed.
- 21:08People were like, oh, that's so insensitive.
- 21:10You're gonna blame it on the food that the parents fed them.
- 21:13And I'm like, I'm not saying that.
- 21:14And I don't even know if the parents fed them.
- 21:15They could have gone out to the Walmart and, you know, the 7-Eleven and bought their own food.
- 21:20I don't know, but I guarantee you, I would bet money on it that their refrigerator is loaded with junk food.
- 21:26And I have police officers who back this up.
- 21:28Police officers have told me they go into these houses of serial killers and criminals, they open up their fridge, it's loaded with soda and processed food.
- 21:37There's not a single bit of healthy food in the refrigerators at all.
- 21:40So we know what to do to reduce violence in this country.
- 21:43And on top of that, on top of that, the lack of nutrients in this food and the toxic pesticides.
- 21:49We also found veterinarian hormones in fast food.
- 21:52One was called butanidiol.
- 21:54It's a steroid that increases the muscle growth of the animal.
- 21:57It also shows right on the manufacturer data sheet that it causes aggression and combatitiveness.
- 22:04Right there in the manufactured data sheet.
- 22:06And it was in four, I don't know if it was 40 or 60% of the top 10 fast food places that we tested in their burgers.
- 22:15So you've got people who just went to Jack in the Box and now they're jacked up on butanodiol, road rage, domestic violence, child abuse, school shootings.
- 22:25There you go, America.
- 22:26That's why America's violent.
- 22:28You know, I don't even know that people really associate the two.
- 22:31I talk a lot about just, you know, we have a lot of concussions happening on athletic fields, and I like to say we're sending kids out with chemical concussions first, which is why it's so bad.
- 22:41It's not necessarily the sports as much as it is what we're feeding these athletes and what they're getting at home and everything else.
- 22:47We have to go to break here pretty soon, but I I have a big question for you.
- 22:51It's one of my favorite books that I ever read that really turned the way I viewed nutrition.
- 22:56So I'm super curious if if you've actually are if you're familiar with that book or if most of America is familiar with their that book, quite frankly.
- 23:03So let's um let's go to Bright Comback and I want to start and just see where you're at and if you know my favorite book or not.
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- 27:10You know, Stephanie, as we come back to air, I know you talked about the 250th birthday for America.
- 27:16We're gonna need a lot of energy, so we better eat right during those three days.
- 27:19One glyphosate.
- 27:21Glyphosate, yes.
- 27:22We're gonna take Zen's uh recommendations to hearts for the next one.
- 27:26Yes, we don't want to show aggression on stage.
- 27:29So we need to work on that.
- 27:32No, absolutely.
- 27:33So one of the things that's really a turning point in my life on food, then is a book called Pottinger's Cats.
- 27:40Have you ever read that?
- 27:41I've heard about it, but I and from multiple sources.
- 27:46So I am going to have to write that down.
- 27:48Yeah, so it's tell me about it.
- 27:50Yeah, so it's fascinating.
- 27:51So a doctor um basically changed the nutrition of his cats and did it for generations and watched how many generations it would take to change things like personality, bone structure, and things.
- 28:04And what he found is that essentially with and I'm so don't quote me on this.
- 28:08It has been years since I've read this book, but I want to say about four generations before these cats were just sickly.
- 28:16They um they they had social changes, they had bone structure changes.
- 28:21So when I look at all the dental issues that we see in our children, I literally think back to that book.
- 28:26When I think of the struggles that people are having with social identity and who they are, I actually think back to that book.
- 28:33And it takes even more time to bring that nutrition back because it has to be passed down generation to generation in order to fully heal um that cat and that that generational cat.
- 28:44So it's it's just super interesting and something that I think that everyone should just at least try to make their way through reading it if they can.
- 28:52I mean, it is very, you know, it is very number oriented and everything else.
- 28:57But if you can read it, read it, get the gist of it because it will truly change the way that you view what you're putting in your mouth.
- 29:05And I think it's important to note that you're either putting like whatever you're eating, it's either helping you or hurting you.
- 29:10And you deserve to have choice on whether or not you want to do that.
- 29:13And if you think that this piece of beef is healthy for you when it's been filled with hormones and everything else, and you're not having that informed consent, it makes it much harder for us.
- 29:22And so we need to know that the paneras of the world are just filled with the glyphosate, right?
- 29:26Like we need to be able to have that choice and recognize it so we can make these decisions to keep our bodies healthy.
- 29:32Yeah, absolutely.
- 29:34And that that what you just mentioned regarding the fourth generation correlates with a study on rats that was done where the mother was fed roundup and the fourth generation was not viable of those rats.
- 29:47And we showed that study to um to the uh at EPA, and they said we can't consider multi generational studies.
- 29:56What?
- 29:56Like that's our policy.
- 29:58Yeah, it's insane.
- 30:00They can only consider that one generation of that.
- 30:03That is, it's just totally insane.
- 30:05And um, and we're coming up on now, like my children's grandchildren would be, you know, the the generation of the fourth generation of being exposed to Roundup.
- 30:15And um, extremely concerned.
- 30:17You know, my dad was told to use Roundup or actually I suggested he used Roundup back in, you know, the 70s or early 80s um before to get the weeds out of the pond because I had seen the commercials that said that roundup was safe.
- 30:31You could spray in your flip-flops, right?
- 30:34It works.
- 30:34I mean, it takes the weeds out.
- 30:36I used to spray it all over the place, and it does, it kills the weeds very quickly.
- 30:40But my dad said no because it would kill the frogs, and I thought he was being a fuddy duddy.
- 30:44And um later on, did I realize, you know, what I realized is that I would spend you know decades of my life trying to ban this product because they lied.
- 30:51They lied to all of us regarding the safety of glyphosate.
- 30:55What's really interesting about you saying that is back in the 1970s, they actually they actually used to test mothers for this stuff.
- 31:01Did you know that?
- 31:02They were testing mothers um for the systems.
- 31:05Yeah, that's how DDT and PCBs got banned because they found it in breast milk in the um Inuits or Eskimos is what they called them then.
- 31:12Yes.
- 31:13And that's how those got banned.
- 31:14But they're not doing that now with glyphosate in breast milk 10 years ago, Raj Across America did, and it's still not banned yet.
- 31:21Do you think then that will change given you mentioned the administration and certainly Robert F.
- 31:25Kennedy is all over these things.
- 31:27Do you think there has a potential for that to change or not?
- 31:30I don't think I mean it should, right?
- 31:33Especially since Trump said that the words pesticides, autism, childhood chronic disease on a presidential platform, shaking Bobby Kennedy's hand um and saying he could go wild.
- 31:42They it glyphosate should be banned, especially considered the science.
- 31:45There's a new study that shows it causes over 10 types of cancer.
- 31:48That would be the wise decision of this EPA, right?
- 31:51However, um, this this administration, not unlike many administrations before, has heavy, heavily is heavily influenced by corporations.
- 32:01Um and what I think is more likely to happen, which uh the end result could be just as it could be practically just as good, is support for farmers to transition to methodologies which don't include glyphosate.
- 32:14And I would be pretty much just as happy as that as long as people were no longer using glyphosate.
- 32:19So there's talk major talk of um farming with machinery with lasers with uh you know precision ag is what they call it, but also using lasers to get rid of the weeds and pests.
- 32:31It's amazing.
- 32:32Um as long as they put the money into it within three to five years, there might not be use of glyphosate at all.
- 32:37So it would be like a ban, but just support for transitioning.
- 32:41And that would support the quality of the soil.
- 32:43It would basically be more regenerative, you know, like regenerating the microbes in the soil, um, which would increase the nutrient density.
- 32:50And when you increase the nutrient density in a crop, you decrease the pests in the weeds.
- 32:56And this is because if you think about it, if a lion is going to attack a pack of a herd of gazelles, he's not going to attack the biggest, strongest gazelle, right?
- 33:04It would exert too much energy to do that.
- 33:06They goes after the smallest sickest gazelle.
- 33:09And that's Mother Nature's way of eliminating right survival of the fittest.
- 33:14So when there's pests and bugs, uh, they go towards the weaker crops.
- 33:19They're they are attracted to crops with lower nutrient density.
- 33:23And that's what glyphosate does.
- 33:26It lowers the nutrient density because it's a chelator.
- 33:28It grabs onto and makes unavailable the vital nutrients of any living thing it touches.
- 33:33It essentially gives a plant AIDS, according to Dr.
- 33:36Don Huber, who's a plant pathologist.
- 33:38It it takes it, so the iron, zinc, and magnesium drop by 80 to 95% in that crop with drift level exposure only.
- 33:47Now keep in mind a lot of these crops are directly spraying it on it.
- 33:50So you you would see you know, thousands of times lower of minerals, most likely.
- 33:54It basically kills the plant.
- 33:55And then the normally harmless bacteria in the soil goes ahead and finishes off the job.
- 34:01It first, the you know, the glyphosate weakens the immune system, and then normally harmless bacterial bacteria kills that plant.
- 34:08So that's how it kills the weed.
- 34:10It's not just the shikamate pathway and the bacteria and all that stuff.
- 34:13It it lowers the nutrient density to such a level that the plant is weakened.
- 34:17So you could imagine more pests come to crops like that.
- 34:20Then they have to spray more pesticides, right?
- 34:23Then you've got decreased um organic matter in the soil.
- 34:26Then you've got to spray more fertilizers.
- 34:28So the farmers are then stuck in this toxic treadmill on a, you know, there's chemical cocktail on a trox tech toxic treadmill back going back around.
- 34:38And and they uh really are sort of beholden to that system.
- 34:43And on top of it, they can't switch out this the uh the seeds because they can't get insurance for any other seeds and any other loans for any other seeds other than these GMO seeds that are engineered to withstand glyphosate and other toxic chemicals.
- 34:58So they're stuck in this financially in the system as well of buying seeds that are genetically engineered to withstand these chemicals, um, and then you know, putting in inputs, the the chemicals and the fertilizer.
- 35:10It's a it's really quite a doozy what Monsanto has done to sort of entrap these farmers in this chemical farming system over the past 30 to 40 years now.
- 35:22Um, but the good news is it's it's only been 30 to 40 years, right?
- 35:26For thousands of years before we have farmed without these toxic chemicals, and we now have the support of this government to uh I'm from what I'm hearing and seeing to invest in machinery that will be an automization of um reducing inputs, reducing pesticides and and all of that and getting rid of weeds.
- 35:46So we're seeing change happening.
- 35:49I appreciate you saying that because I think sometimes we have on I say our side, we have these knee-jerk reactions like just do this, you know, just and then do that.
- 35:58And you mentioned the farmers, that's your livelihood.
- 36:00We need them.
- 36:01We appreciate them.
- 36:03But as you I like your word trapped, you know, we we sometimes get in the just go do that.
- 36:08Well, it's not as easy um to make that change.
- 36:11Um, but you know, there also is a great uh, as you put it, that incentive kind of like the ground up from the purchaser.
- 36:18If they didn't purchase or need to or want to or had incentives not to purchase the chemicals, that cuts off there's no demand for the product, so the people producing it stop producing it.
- 36:29I mean, it's basic economics or limits, you know.
- 36:32Um, so that is a great way to to approach it because you have to give them some supports to make the change, I believe.
- 36:40Yes, and I was just meeting with GT Thompson's office, um, and they talked about uh having funding in there to support specialty crops with the machinery that has automization and mechanization, right, to reduce the inputs, which primarily means pesticides.
- 36:57It could also mean fertilizers.
- 36:59Um, but if we're reducing that, I'm like, that is awesome.
- 37:02We can get behind that.
- 37:03Let's let's support that.
- 37:04And they said, well, it's for specialty crops.
- 37:06I'm like, well, why not commodity crops too?
- 37:08Why not all the farmers, right?
- 37:10Uh and most people would not be advocating for more money for commodity crops because that basically means bear and you know, corn and soy and it's all the big farmers, the GMO farmers.
- 37:20But if we could get the the if the GMO farmers could have weed killer that's just laser robots that go in between the rows and they're not using glyphosate, I am all for that.
- 37:31And then they could also go away from the GMO seeds, which costs 375% more, right?
- 37:36They could use heirloom seeds, they could use regular corn seeds that aren't dependent on these pesticides and get back to the type of corn that we ate a hundred years ago, which was much higher in nutrient density, right?
- 37:50So there are systemic changes that could be made if we do support this transition away from um the use of these chemicals.
- 37:59And I believe it's inevitable.
- 38:01I I believe it's unstoppable.
- 38:03It is going to happen.
- 38:05And the reason why is because there's just too many people getting sick.
- 38:10And um, everybody, including people at the top want changes now.
- 38:15Even our president promised to make those changes.
- 38:18So we're hoping to see that happen.
- 38:21Um, we need we need do need to have continued pressure from um folks like you and I, and you know, everybody to to behold Trump and this EPA and our elected officials, especially the Republicans.
- 38:33A lot of them are voting for this pesticide immunity shield business, um, which gives complete immunity to these chemical companies for lawsuits, or at least makes it harder for people to sue them.
- 38:43That's not okay.
- 38:44Every company, vaccine company, chemical company, car seat company, car company, they all need to be held accountable for safety.
- 38:52So we need to speak up about that.
- 38:53The farm bill um language is coming out today, tomorrow, very, very soon, next week is when you can comment on that language.
- 39:01And then February 23rd through 25th is 25th, 23rd to through 25th is when they have a process called the right, the markup, where they actually, you know, ensure the language that's going to be in the bill, and then they vote on it on the 25th and the house ag committee.
- 39:16After that, it'll go to the house, the full house.
- 39:19So the, you know, the the all of the 400 members of the house will vote on it.
- 39:23Um, and that's when we have the best chance.
- 39:27Wow.
- 39:28That's to get to not want to have um, you know, uh chemical companies have not have any accountability.
- 39:35So that that would be the probably the first or second week of March, most likely.
- 39:38I I know there's a push from some of the legislators.
- 39:41I think it's uh Rep Mahalic, um, or maybe it's Senator one of our one of our legislators is pushing to give support federally for that and get signatures of other senators and stuff like that from Pennsylvania.
- 39:51So I hope we're seeing this countrywide.
- 39:53But I do have a question.
- 39:54I think that's probably on everyone's mind as we're talking about this food shift and everything else.
- 39:59I just like
- 40:00Like to go back to the picture of Robert Kennedy Jr.
- 40:03with President Trump and McDonald's.
- 40:08Are we sure that the president is on board?
- 40:12President the president likes his fast food and so forth.
- 40:15I just want to make sure he is on board with this.
- 40:18I I would love to have a conversation.
- 40:20Yeah.
- 40:21Just, you know, because we see those pictures or like what is it?
- 40:25So he so he likes McDonald's.
- 40:27I'm not sure that he is privy to the amount of toxins that are in that food.
- 40:31And I'm not sure that he thinks that it impacts him.
- 40:35I mean, he's a workhorse.
- 40:36You know, there are some people who just are not as impacted by these toxics.
- 40:41He only sleeps, what, like three hours a night or something.
- 40:43Yeah.
- 40:44Yeah.
- 40:44So he's like impenetrable.
- 40:46And, you know, he's just a different yoke of human being.
- 40:49So I think that he does, however, especially care about children and about the military.
- 40:54And if if he is at all privy to the information regarding the toxins in the school lunches and in the military food, I think he could very easily say, really, less than two percent of our budget to get to give the school and the military American food, real American food.
- 41:13Like he may not even care so much about the toxins or the pesticides from America.
- 41:19Go do that.
- 41:20Make that happen.
- 41:20He could say that.
- 41:21He absolutely could say, go make that happen.
- 41:24And if he did that, he would be the greatest president of all time.
- 41:27And I probably I told Kelly Means this.
- 41:31I probably I might quit, right?
- 41:33I might not.
- 41:34But you know, like I I feel like I would be done.
- 41:36Right, like my mission, my goal to like make this stuff.
- 41:38I I would I definitely would take a long break, right?
- 41:41Like this is just it's just I'm so exhausted from doing all of this.
- 41:45But that would be the one of the biggest wins we could ever have.
- 41:48And that would that is my goal.
- 41:49My goal is to transform the food supply and health in America and beyond.
- 41:53And if that happened, it would do that.
- 41:54It would it would take time to take five years, maybe, maybe long, maybe a little longer, but it could happen.
- 42:00Uh it could be I think you know, just the work you're doing to cast light on this and share the information, like the military meals and the school meals and the school lunches.
- 42:08You are doing a huge service to not just the country, but people, you know, so um thank you for doing that.
- 42:15I also think you know, we talk about the president eating McDonald's.
- 42:18I I did take this.
- 42:19I mean, the last time you were with us uh last year or so, you did say, and I think I think we have to say this, you know, things happen in moderation.
- 42:27You don't want to be eating Panera bread every day.
- 42:30I do occasionally go there, and I'm not feeling guilty about going there for lunch occasionally.
- 42:34And I think you even had said that about, you know, we do live in this world, and there is a thing with moderation, and um, but not to make it a daily something that you're consuming, as you said, that that's all your refrigerator contains.
- 42:48Yeah, please, yeah, don't yeah, don't do it daily.
- 42:50Um, you definitely will see health issues if you're eating um restaurant food on a daily basis.
- 42:57I would strongly encourage home cooking.
- 43:00Um, what I do on Sundays is I cook um, if especially for my son for his lunches, because I we've discovered he has a microwave.
- 43:07I don't love the microwave, but it at least gives him a hot lunch, you know, at the school, so he's not eating the school lunches.
- 43:12I cook the chicken thighs and a pound of ground beef, you know, flavor it different ways.
- 43:17I make a whole bunch of things rice or maybe even mashed potatoes, and then a bunch of vegetables, and I put five containers of, you know, there it's glass, so he's not getting I make he's got hot meals ready to go on Sundays for the whole week.
- 43:28And he likes it.
- 43:28And he likes it.
- 43:29He loves it.
- 43:30He he thanked me just the other day.
- 43:31He's like, Mom, that was so good.
- 43:32You know, it just it's just a hearty full meal with vegetables, you know, his starch and his meat.
- 43:38It's flavored and it's home cooked, and he has to be gluten-free now because he's just found out he's you know, he has reactions to that.
- 43:45So it totally works, just meat and either rice or potatoes and some vegetables, and you know, that's it's whole foods.
- 43:50That's already used.
- 43:52Are you still testing the restaurant?
- 43:54I remember last time you were here, Panera was at the top.
- 43:56Uh, I remember that the bottom was uh Chipotle, um, of you know, they're not perfect, but in that whole rank.
- 44:04So Chipotle had the least amount of pesticides.
- 44:06Yes, yes, yes, yes.
- 44:07And in the middle of the bottom, Panera bread had the highest levels of glyphosate.
- 44:12It was Domino's pizza that the highest had the highest levels of pesticides on their vegetable pizza.
- 44:17So if you order vegetables out at a restaurant, you're likely getting um more pesticides than you you really would like to get.
- 44:25So if you really want to steer clear, I would order beef and um either potatoes or um rice for your starch, and um like uh some type of vegetable that might be less sprayed, might be beans rather than you know, something like uh broccoli or uh cabbage, you know.
- 44:49It's it's you know, it's hard to know though, because we're not testing everything.
- 44:52Yeah, I think but you're I tend to go mostly carnivore when I'm eating out.
- 44:57I like I try to stick to beef.
- 44:58I usually get a steak.
- 45:00Like I and I a lot of times just skip the vegetable all together.
- 45:03I figure I can get that stuff at home.
- 45:05You know, it's not like I'm doing it every single day, but I think it's a safer way to eat.
- 45:09And I do notice that I feel much better not eating, you know, salads and vegetables out and about.
- 45:15Yeah, just I definitely do not do the fried foods, just stay just not gonna feel good with the fried food.
- 45:21I go out and I enjoy my meal out.
- 45:23I'm not counting canceling anything out, so I'm just saying that just saying I don't go out all the time or a lot.
- 45:28I used to go out for lunch every day and ate out half most meals at dinner.
- 45:32Don't do that hardly at all.
- 45:33I do the same thing, I prep on Sundays, meal prep for the week ahead.
- 45:37But um, I'm sorry, I'm I'm not gonna say that's a good idea.
- 45:40Okay, don't I mention can I is can I mention two supplements?
- 45:43I don't like I don't get paid for this, but can I mention two supplements that if you're gonna do that?
- 45:46So one is global healing is is the is the supplement company that I have visited their offices and they don't even have VOC paints on the wall, they have like clay on the wall, they don't want to have any toxins in their supplements, they infuse them with like good frequencies.
- 46:00Anyway, there's a toxin binder that they have.
- 46:02You take this and it pulls the toxins out of your body, and then if you're getting constipated because you're eating out at restaurants with attachment a lot, this is oxy powder.
- 46:09We'll just clean you right out.
- 46:11So if you have that bad food and then you get all constipated, this you just take four pills at night the next morning, you will poop it all out.
- 46:17And it's not, you know, it's not terrible, it's not tragic, it's not a it's not a mess.
- 46:20It's just you will you will get it out of your body.
- 46:23I use both of those.
- 46:24I am with you.
- 46:25I like to do it.
- 46:25You do I use both of them?
- 46:26I do that's so great.
- 46:27Yeah, yeah.
- 46:28Yeah.
- 46:28What was the first one?
- 46:29It was toxin binder, microsomal toxin binder.
- 46:33Yeah, by um global healing.
- 46:36Yeah, I I tend to be a Starbucks nitro cold debris person.
- 46:40I can't believe I'm admitting this online, but I um tend to I so I take a binder every time I have one of their coffees because it's so filled with pesticides, and you do have to make sure you're having a bowel movement every single day.
- 46:53The medical system will tell you that it's okay to have it three times a week.
- 46:57It is not no, yeah, two to three times a day is that's good too, you know, after your meals, yeah.
- 47:03100% that's where I have the problem with the GLP ones because the whole point of the weight loss drugs is it slows down digestion and keeps food.
- 47:10We've had people on about that, Stephanie.
- 47:12Keeps food sitting in your digestive system so that you don't feel full.
- 47:17I mean, we had the person who imp introduced Ozempic on our show and said it does that, so you feel full.
- 47:22And I just can't think that that is a good thing that you have food when we've designed for an elimination system.
- 47:28Oxy powder for everybody.
- 47:30I know, but that I'm I mean, that that's where I have a problem with all of that among a lot of things, but um you know, um Zen, it is uh the school lunches just and I know we're running out of time, but the school lunches still that that is part of with the military.
- 47:46Um that was also before one of the things that was announced, yeah.
- 47:49That was announced uh yesterday too.
- 47:51They are going to make changes to the school lunches.
- 47:53There are pilot programs that are happening, not government sort of funded, but there are people like uh turning green and school of lunch and eat real that are making massive changes in procuring, you know, um uh local whole foods for schools, um, and the nutritional guidelines had to change in order for those changes to be implemented in the schools.
- 48:18Like, for instance, there's certain nutritional standards that prevented even this one school of lunch was changing um school lunches in a in a pilot's program in Florida, and they were told they couldn't even add an egg to breakfast because that was a dietary change that was not authorized with the nutritional school lunch standards.
- 48:37So um, so that is changed now.
- 48:39So now the the way that that rolls out in the schools is able to be changed.
- 48:44And so those changes are going to be implemented over the next you know, six months to a year.
- 48:48Um, but again, they can't make all of those changes if the school can't like for instance boil the eggs or cook the eggs, right?
- 48:54If they can't, they don't have the materials to do that, they can't do that.
- 48:57So that's gonna take you know more time.
- 49:00Um, and and you're you're you have a good point there.
- 49:02I want to get school of lunch Hillary Boynton back on our mom's connect calls on Monday nights or our we have a safe school meals coalition call to to share with us what do these changes mean and how can it roll out, right?
- 49:13Like what when when can we start making these changes happen?
- 49:15But it it is happening, it's coming down the road.
- 49:17Our kids should be eating whole eggs, you know, um grass-fed red regenerative raised meat for breakfast, proteins.
- 49:25Um, they should not be having donuts.
- 49:27We're spending millions of dollars on donuts.
- 49:29Did you know that the five-year-olds are eating for breakfast?
- 49:31I mean, I millions every day, millions of dollars.
- 49:34Five kids, and none of them have ever bought school lunches, and I am so thankful for that.
- 49:39Good good girl in that.
- 49:40As somebody who I was executive director of a food bank, and um, you know, you see the things you get because most of it's rescue over what and we would sometimes get these packets that they were left over school lunch kind of kits, you know, and um they were they were pretty sad, you know, little juice boxes and yeah, like a pastry and uh, you know, it wasn't.
- 50:00And I think we even got some like sometimes that we're in prison, same kind of thing.
- 50:04Yeah.
- 50:04Um very highly provided.
- 50:07We can do better, is the point, right?
- 50:09And that's why we test because when you know better, you do better, but you have to know first.
- 50:13You have to know what what's going on here.
- 50:15What can we do about it?
- 50:17So we appreciate everybody that supports the testing.
- 50:19If you can send us fund, you know, money money every month, then we can plan out, okay, we're gonna get this tested and that testing because we have the money for it.
- 50:27We ask for $30 a month, just one dollar a day.
- 50:29And if you want to do that for us, you know, uh educating our elected officials on the hill, you know, we say we say you get to have a say of you know what happens on the hill, like you're a part of us going to them, and that's for the moms across America movement.
- 50:42It's moms across America movement.org.
- 50:45And our tagline for that legislative arm of my, you know, it's the moms across America movement, it's a 501c4 is yes ma'am, and we love it.
- 50:53And we're championing policy and public servants who put children health safety and America's future first.
- 50:59And they can go to America Movement.org, moms across America movement.org.
- 51:06Eventually we're going to shorten it to yes, ma'am USA, but I don't know if that URL switch has been made, but we have that, so it'll just be it'll be a shorter URL.
- 51:13That's for both information and to support your organization.
- 51:16Well, that that is for the legislative arm.
- 51:18So if you want to support meet us, go into the hill in DC, that's great.
- 51:21If you want to just support the testing, go to moms across America.org and go to click on donate, and you can click um you can donate you know, $300, you can do it however you want or monthly.
- 51:32Um, either way supports the testing.
- 51:34So we have the educational outreach testing moms across America, and then we have the legislative arm, moms across America movement, yes, ma'am team.
- 51:42And before we and before we have to close this out, can I just ask you how much does it take to test this stuff?
- 51:47I mean, this is not a small task.
- 51:49I think this is something people need to be aware of.
- 51:51Yeah, it's like it can be around $2,000 up to $3,000 per sample, it depends on what we're testing for, like when we tested for vitamin B's in some food that when we made it had to go up to about $3,000 per sample.
- 52:04So it's like $80,000 per category of food that we're testing.
- 52:09Um, so we want to test, you know, meat and milk and eggs and like all kinds of things that really impact American society.
- 52:15Um, we also you know love to test some branded food as well, but it it costs a lot of money.
- 52:20So we we really need we need a couple million millionaires and billionaires to just say here, here's a million dollars a year to test food samples, and I promise you we'll do a better job than the FDA.
- 52:30Yeah, and I think this is go ahead.
- 52:33I know before I know she has to go.
- 52:35Um, is your picture hanging up in the Monsanto break room somewhere?
- 52:41They do know who I am.
- 52:42When I went there to speak, yeah, I went there to speak.
- 52:44The security, they all knew who I was, but that that office has shut down in St.
- 52:48Missouri.
- 52:49That bear had to buy them out, so they are now in Germany.
- 52:52Um but yes, they know who I am.
- 52:53Yeah, okay.
- 52:54Hallelujah.
- 52:55I just want to I just want to say, as we have to say goodbye and and all that kind of stuff, that this really is a movement that all of us have to get together and come together for in order to finance this um to help moms across America because you know, it is important that we get this information.
- 53:15Our government has not done this traditionally, and so it is up to us, the populace to do this.
- 53:20It's up to us to protect our children as moms, as fathers.
- 53:25We are the ones that have to take the action.
- 53:27And in order to do that, we need to be able to fund organizations like this who are able to test this, get the information out, not only educate us, but educate our legislators as well, because this is that we are in crisis mode.
- 53:42Our our um our age, you know, our our our expected life expect expectancy is now coming down for the first time.
- 53:53We we're not gonna see our our you know, second or third generation down even live until their 70s at the rate that we were going.
- 54:01And it's it we're at a crisis point.
- 54:03And so we either as Americans come together and make this happen and back the organizations that are making these changes, or we are going to watch our children become sicker and sicker.
- 54:17I agree.
- 54:18I mean, you do what you can.
- 54:20I think in all things, you know, it some of this can get overwhelming.
- 54:24You the way to eat an elephant, if it's organic, I guess, is um one bite of at a time.
- 54:29Uh but you know, and I say that as someone I'm like that.
- 54:32I it I I can shut down totally when I hear all of it, but you have to do one thing at a time.
- 54:37You do have to do one thing at a time.
- 54:39But and I and I hear what you're saying that you know, it can be a it can be a big thing to chew off, but donating just five dollars a month, you know, donating a dollar, like we can all do something, right?
- 54:51You know, whatever that is, we can all do something.
- 54:54And I I think that's the point.
- 54:55We don't have to bite off, you know, a big chunk.
- 54:58We just have to give a little bit and maybe cut down on our coffee once a week or something like that in order to make sure that this information is getting out there, because quite frankly, I'm not listening to the CDC, I'm not listening to the FDA, I'm not listening to the E.
- 55:10I don't trust any of them.
- 55:11They're not my friend, they're not looking out for me.
- 55:13You know, our our government government has our back.
- 55:17They're they're okay if the government takes care of us, isn't that what we're led to believe?
- 55:21Our constitution, the primary point of our constitution with us was to protect citizens, and they have failed at every single level.
- 55:29And so here I am, and I'm just saying that everyone is gonna have to step forward for this.
- 55:35And you know, Kathy, I just think that this is the way that things are gonna have to go.
- 55:40That if we as citizens don't do it, it's not gonna get done.
- 55:45And it is our it it is our right in America to have informed consent, to know what we are getting, to know what we are eating.
- 55:53It's our right to be able to live a free and healthy life, and our government has failed, and therefore we as citizens have to do what we have to do in order to change that.
- 56:03And that means that people like Zen, we need to get behind her and every single thing that she is doing so that we can make that happen.
- 56:11And you want to say one last thing.
- 56:14No, I just I I agree.
- 56:17Do what you can.
- 56:18I'm going on and on.
- 56:19I'm just ignoring you at this point.
- 56:20That's okay.
- 56:21No, no, I just do what you can.
- 56:23You have to do what you can.
- 56:24And it's like everything that we that we always say and on this show is that you know what Zen is doing is what every single one of us should be doing, but we know we can't.
- 56:34And so if all you can do is do that one is do that one thing to donate that money or whatever else, do it.
- 56:41So wherever you are, to the extent that you are able, stand up, step forward and speak out.