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The Kenny Report | September 24 · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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Speaker 2: No interest rate cut as our per capita recession continues. Also,
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Speaker 2: Israel fights back against Hezballah in Lebanon, and Peter Dutton
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Speaker 2: says this time for the world to focus on Iran,
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Speaker 2: the real provocateur in the Middle East. I'll have plenty
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Speaker 2: from Peter Dutton tonight. He's also told me that Coles
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Speaker 2: and Woolies have got it all over Anthony Albanizi and
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Speaker 2: he agrees South Australia's Iron Triangle would be a great
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Speaker 2: place for a nuclear reactor helping to power the copper, gold.
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Speaker 1: And uranium mine at roxby Downs.
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Speaker 2: I'll talk to the mayor of a council that has
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Speaker 2: brought back Australia day. Also Kristen Tate on US politics
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Speaker 2: as Donald Trump surges back in the polls, A terrific
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Speaker 2: Panel two on the ABC's woes. Plus Tim Blair on
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Speaker 2: labor and misinformation. Let's get into it. It is mid
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Speaker 2: morning now in the Middle East and Israel has battlefronts
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Speaker 2: against Hamas in its south and against Hesbalah over its
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Speaker 2: northern border in Lebanon. Both these Islamist terrorist groups are
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Speaker 2: funded and armed by Iran. Both are committed to the
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Speaker 2: destruction of Israel, and neither is interested in peace, prosperity,
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Speaker 2: two state solutions, or the preservation of Israeli lives.
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Speaker 1: Or even Palestinian lives.
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Speaker 2: All they want is to terrorize Israel, to perpetuate bloodshed,
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Speaker 2: and to use the bloodshed to turn world opinion against Israel.
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Speaker 2: And on that propaganda front, they have been largely successful
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Speaker 2: by slaughtering Jewish babies, shooting Israeli girls point blank, murdering families,
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Speaker 2: mutilating bodies, raping women, taking hostages, and by firing rockets
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Speaker 2: into Israel, killing and terrorizing civilians.
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Speaker 1: By doing all this.
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Speaker 2: Hummas and Hezbillah ensure Israel has to hit back, it
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Speaker 2: has to defend its people, and then the propaganda machine
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Speaker 2: of the Islamist extremists, the radical left, and the anti
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Speaker 2: Zionists around the world kicks in to blame Israel. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the useful idiots around the world condemn Israel for defending itself.
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Speaker 1: They blame the victim.
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Speaker 2: All this is funded and orchestrated by the Islamist regime
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Speaker 2: in Iran, Yet the international pressure is not on Hummus
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Speaker 2: to surrender its terrorists, hand back the hostages. The pressure
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Speaker 2: is not on Hesbala to stop using Southern Lebanon as
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Speaker 2: a heavily weaponized launching pad for attacks on Israel. And
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Speaker 2: the pressure isn't on Iran to drop its fanatical desire
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Speaker 2: to eradicate Israel, to stop funding, arming, training, and manipulating
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Speaker 2: Islamist terrorist groups. Iran for immense terror and war driven
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Speaker 2: by its Islamist extremist objection to the very existence of Israel.
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Speaker 2: But we don't hear about pressure on the warmonger Iran.
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Speaker 2: The pressure, unbelievably is always on Israel, a liberal democracy
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Speaker 2: that only wants peace within its borders and the right
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Speaker 2: to protect its citizens. The pressure is on Israel to
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Speaker 2: stop defending its people, what to accept terror attacks, to
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Speaker 2: accept missile barrages, to accept civilian deaths.
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Speaker 1: This is how warped the debate.
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Speaker 2: Has become, and this is why Israel has to ignore
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Speaker 2: all that and do all it can to take out
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Speaker 2: all the missiles and other weaponry in Southern Lebanon, missiles
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Speaker 2: that incredibly have been reiining in on Israel since October
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Speaker 2: the eighth. That's how sick this conflict. Is Hesblah reacted
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Speaker 2: to the senseless slaughterer of twelve hundred Israelis in the
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Speaker 2: south by starting its bombardment from the north. Israel decided
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Speaker 2: that now was the time to put an end to that.
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Speaker 3: In a display of power and military might, the Israelis
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Speaker 3: unleashed a massive aerial bombardment, targeting ammunition and infrastructure belonging
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Speaker 3: to Hezbollah. Israel's Prime minister stated, we are changing the
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Speaker 3: balance of power, but the Lebanese health minister said they
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Speaker 3: were killing civilians. Hundreds of people have been reported dead,
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Speaker 3: with more than a thousand injured.
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Speaker 1: The toll is terrible. It has been for decades. But
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Speaker 1: the Lebanese.
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Speaker 2: Authorities have actually accused Israel of targeting civilians, which is
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Speaker 2: a recklessly irresponsible claim, because the Lebanese people have been
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Speaker 2: fleeing from the danger areas precisely because Israel warned them.
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Speaker 2: Israel podcast messages on Lebanese radio and television stations now
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Speaker 2: even sent messages in Arabic to all mobile phones warning
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Speaker 2: people to get away from his Balah installations. Israel's Prime
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Speaker 2: minister even added to the warnings directly.
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Speaker 4: I have a message for the people of Lebanon, Israel's
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Speaker 4: war is not with you, it's.
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Speaker 1: With his Balah.
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Speaker 4: For too long, his Bala has been using you as
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Speaker 4: human shields. It placed rockets in your living rooms and
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Speaker 4: missiles in your garage. Those rockets and missiles are raimed
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Speaker 4: directly at our cities, directly at our citizens. To defend
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Speaker 4: our people against his Ballah strikes, we must take out
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Speaker 4: those weapons now, starting this morning. The IDEAF has warned
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Speaker 4: you to get out of harm's way. I urge you
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Speaker 4: take this warning seriously. Don't let his Balah in danger
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Speaker 4: your lives and the lives of your loved ones. Don't
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Speaker 4: let his Baala in danger. Lebanon, Please get out of
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Speaker 4: no now.
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Speaker 1: This is not what you do.
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Speaker 2: Obviously, if you're targeting civilians, this offensive could go on
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Speaker 2: for many months now. Remember Israel degraded Hesbalah communications and
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Speaker 2: leadership last week with those exploding pages and walkie talkies.
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Speaker 2: But even still Hesbella is firing rockets deep into Israel.
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Speaker 2: It's provocative and not only endangers Israelis, but also endangers
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Speaker 2: their own people by making Israel responses inevitable. Israel has
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Speaker 2: circulated vision claiming to reveal missiles and other weapons systems
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Speaker 2: hidden within civilian buildings in Lebanon. And if anyone doubts
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Speaker 2: these claims, they just have to look at vision of
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Speaker 2: what happens after the Israeli bomb strikes. The secondary and
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Speaker 2: ongoing explosions show the strikes are not on lounge rooms
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Speaker 2: but something far more incendury. Australians are again being worn
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Speaker 2: to get out of Lebanon. Frankly, they have been worn
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Speaker 2: to leave for many, many months. But while we hear
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Speaker 2: calls for Israeli restraint from around the world, including from
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Speaker 2: our own government, this all misses the point. The international
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Speaker 2: community needs to take action against Iran, to sanction Iran
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Speaker 2: for orchestrating this abomination and to force it to stop.
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Speaker 2: And it needs to demand that hum Us hands over
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Speaker 2: all hostages and surrenders its terrorists while hez Balato surrenders
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Speaker 2: its missile stockpiles and its weapons and its terrorists. That's
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Speaker 2: the only way to deliver peace, that is to stop
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Speaker 2: terrorists trying to obliterate Israel. And every day that doesn't happen,
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Speaker 2: and on no dreamer, believe me, I know it won't
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Speaker 2: happen anytime soon, But every day it does not happen.
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Speaker 2: It means that Iran and Hamas and Hezbalah all place
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Speaker 2: a higher value on killing Israelis than they place on
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Speaker 2: preserving the lives of their own children. Let's go to
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Speaker 2: the opposition leader, Peter Dutton. Now, I spoke with him
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Speaker 2: earlier and asked him whether all the pressure should be
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Speaker 2: on Iran as the malevolent player in the region.
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Speaker 5: Without question, Chris, that is exactly right.
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Speaker 6: And I think every decent minded person, know whether a
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Speaker 6: leader of a Western country or anybody across the world, frankly,
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Speaker 6: should be looking on in the Middle East at the
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Speaker 6: moment worried about some of the commentary. Hamas is a
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Speaker 6: listed terrorist organization, Hezbla, the whod he is all sponsored
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Speaker 6: by Iran. All of these organizations, all of these movements
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Speaker 6: have one outcome in mind, and that is to destroy
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Speaker 6: Israel and to drive people from the river to the sea,
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Speaker 6: as they say. And the fact that people wouldn't be
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Speaker 6: standing with Israel and would be equivocating or somehow giving
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Speaker 6: comfort in their language to the Iranians is beyond anyone's comprehension.
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Speaker 5: So I do think we need a reality check and
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Speaker 5: we need.
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Speaker 6: To provide every support we can to Israel to make
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Speaker 6: sure that peace can prevail in the Middle East, because
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Speaker 6: if it continues on the path it is at the moment,
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Speaker 6: I think the world is in a very precarious position now.
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Speaker 2: We all fear for and care for innocent civilians caught
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Speaker 2: up in all of this. But the federal government's announced
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Speaker 2: another ten million dollars through UN charities to help in Gaza.
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Speaker 2: Should we be worried about this given we've had the
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Speaker 2: revelations of UN organizations in Gaza being infiltrated by Hamas operatives.
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Speaker 6: I just think Australians, who are very generous and big
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Speaker 6: hearted want to know that AID money is going to
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Speaker 6: provide support to the people that was intended to help.
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Speaker 6: And if we're talking about a program that diverts money
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Speaker 6: into the hands of terrorist groups or away from those
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Speaker 6: who are in need of food and medical supplies, etc.
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Speaker 5: Then there should be full transparency here.
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Speaker 6: The onus is on Penny Wong and Anthony Albanesi to
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Speaker 6: explain why the UN organization has legitimacy in distributing this
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Speaker 6: aid when we know that, as you point out, there
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Speaker 6: have been findings in relation to some of the workers
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Speaker 6: within this particular program who have been involved in terrorist
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Speaker 6: activity or alleged to have been involved in that. So
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Speaker 6: I just don't think there's any transparency or honesty from
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Speaker 6: the government here, and there certainly needs to be.
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Speaker 1: Just related to Islamist terrorism.
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Speaker 2: But back in our region, the new leader of Jamaa Islamia,
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Speaker 2: the Islamist terror group responsible for the Balley bombings among
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Speaker 2: other atrocities, well, their new leader has apologized for these
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Speaker 2: terror attacks, said that peace is the way forward and
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Speaker 2: promises to disband Jamar Islamia. Given especially given the tensions
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Speaker 2: in the Middle East at the moment, the warfare in
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Speaker 2: the Middle East, can we take him at his word?
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Speaker 5: Well, the only time will tell. Let's hope that he's sincere.
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Speaker 6: I'm in Ipswich today and I've been at the RSL
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Speaker 6: sub branch with veterans of the Middle Eastern campaigns of
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Speaker 6: peacekeeping missions, and when you look at the work that
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Speaker 6: they did and the work, frankly that we're still doing
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Speaker 6: today with Indonesia, with the Philippines and others to try
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Speaker 6: and defeat the scourge of terrorism. We should tip our
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Speaker 6: hat every day to be honest to the men and
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Speaker 6: women who wear our national uniform. They keep us safe.
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Speaker 6: And there is a lot of activity that's taken place
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Speaker 6: in Indonesia over a long period of time where we've
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Speaker 6: provided support to the police and the intelligence agencies to
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Speaker 6: quash a number of potential attacks on Australian interests tour
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Speaker 6: us not just in Indonesia but across the region.
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Speaker 5: Chris, So, let's hope it's sincere.
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Speaker 6: It was certainly a barbaric organization that took the lives
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Speaker 6: of many people, including Australians, and we should never forget that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, well said, I was an event with you
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Speaker 2: last week where former AFP Commissioner Mick Kilty was present
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Speaker 2: as well, and the AFP have meant so.
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Speaker 1: Important in that role as well.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring it back to the domestic economy and the
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Speaker 2: cost of living crisis, inflation and interest rates. There's a
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Speaker 2: report out today from e Y that says the combined
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Speaker 2: interest rate bill of state governments and federal government's debt
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Speaker 2: is forty four billion dollars annually, equivalent to the National
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Speaker 2: Defense budget or the NDIS budget. Two points on this
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Speaker 2: this the level of debt is unsustainable and also isn't
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Speaker 2: the level of government spending.
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Speaker 1: It's fueling obviously.
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Speaker 2: Increasing the inflation rate to our interest rate problem well.
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Speaker 6: And the other consideration, of course is that when you
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Speaker 6: compare Australia to comparable economies in the US, the UK,
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Speaker 6: New Zealand, Canada, interest rates have already started to come
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Speaker 6: down there. And when the Reserve Bank governor here issues
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Speaker 6: are warning to the Prime Minister and to the Treasurer
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Speaker 6: that the reckless spending has to stop. It has to
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Speaker 6: stop because it's fueling inflation and Australians at the moment
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Speaker 6: are doing it tough, a cost of living pressures on families.
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Speaker 6: There are mortgage repayments that have gone up on twelve
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Speaker 6: occasions under this government.
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Speaker 5: It's all as a result of bad policies of the
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Speaker 5: Albanzi government.
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Speaker 6: The Prime Minister spent the first sixteen months as Prime
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Speaker 6: Minister obsessed with the voice and he should have been
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Speaker 6: making decisions in the first couple of budgets that set
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Speaker 6: us up to deal with the realities that we knew
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Speaker 6: were coming in relation to the inflation threat and what
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Speaker 6: that means for the economy. But at a time when
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Speaker 6: the Reserve Bank governors saying spend less, as you point out,
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Speaker 6: the state governments and the Albanizi ga are spending more
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Speaker 6: and more and that's what's keeping interest rates higher for longer.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi was quick yesterday to suggest that price fiddling
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Speaker 2: by the supermarkets could be helping to push up inflation,
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Speaker 2: yet he seems to have a blind spot when it
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Speaker 2: comes to government spending having exactly the same impact on
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Speaker 2: the supermarkets. And the government's approach, do you think that
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Speaker 2: their code of conduct is going to be tough enough
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Speaker 2: or you still insisting that there should be the power
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Speaker 2: for divestiture after the supermarket giants a threat, I suppose
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Speaker 2: hanging over them a more serious threat to make sure
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Speaker 2: that they do the right thing when it comes to
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Speaker 2: price and transparency.
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Speaker 6: Chris, I just think Coles and Woolies have got it
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Speaker 6: all over the Prime Ministry. I think they see him
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Speaker 6: as most of strangers do, and that is weak and
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Speaker 6: unable to make a tough decision. The Prime Minister has
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Speaker 6: been sitting on a report that they received from Craig
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Speaker 6: Emerson about what code of conduct should be put in
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Speaker 6: place for months and months and months and months.
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Speaker 5: Nothing's happened.
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Speaker 6: It's like the gambling reforms, It's like everything this government
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Speaker 6: does they promise a review, they seek the advice of
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Speaker 6: a consultant. The job of the Prime Minister is to
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Speaker 6: make decisions in our country's best interests, and this prime
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Speaker 6: Minister seems to be incapable of doing that. So do
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Speaker 6: I think that the Prime Minister has the measure, the ability,
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Speaker 6: the backbone, the fortitude to deal with coals and ullies. No,
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Speaker 6: I don't, and I think it's why coals and Wullies
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Speaker 6: are walking all over the Prime Minister at the moment.
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Speaker 5: A government I lead will make.
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Speaker 6: Sure that coals and Wullies are profitable, but that they're
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Speaker 6: delivering the best possible outcome for their customers. I don't
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Speaker 6: want to see them screwing over customers or farmers or suppliers.
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Speaker 5: And I want to champion small business.
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Speaker 6: I want to make sure that we have an economy
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Speaker 6: that's working for people, and I want to make sure
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Speaker 6: that people aren't being ripped off. And it appears that
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Speaker 6: coals and Wullies have a case to answer here, and
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Speaker 6: let's see what evidence is produced and what the a
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Speaker 6: Triple C can do. But I just don't think anybody
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Speaker 6: in that position. Frankly, position of power across the business
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Speaker 6: community has any respect for the Prime Minister at the
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Speaker 6: moment at all.
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton there on the economy and cost of living.
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Speaker 2: I got more from him coming up later in the
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Speaker 2: program where he talks about energy issues, our energy crisis
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Speaker 2: in this country and also immigration.
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Speaker 1: So stick around for that.
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Speaker 5: I want to go to another.
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Speaker 1: Issue though, And there's some good news.
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Speaker 2: Really finally a bit of common sense from one local council.
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Speaker 2: The City of Utley in Adelaide has backflipped on its
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Speaker 2: decision to move Australia Day celebrations from the twenty sixth
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Speaker 2: of January to the twenty fifth. Community survey found that,
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Speaker 2: surprise surprise, most people weren't happy with the Citizenship and
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Speaker 2: award ceremonies being moved away from our national today. So
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Speaker 2: the council last night voted to switch back to Australia Day.
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Speaker 2: They switched back from the twenty fifth of January back
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Speaker 2: to the twenty sixth.
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Speaker 1: Let's bring in the Mayor of Leigh, Michael Hewitson.
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Speaker 2: Michael, good to talk to you again, the first time
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Speaker 2: I've spoken to you on this issue. But tell us
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Speaker 2: why the council felt the need to get away from
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Speaker 2: the twenty sixth.
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Speaker 7: In the first place, Well, the federal government, Chris went
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Speaker 7: to the local governments and said, you've got to make
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Speaker 7: a decision. You can have your Australia Day celebrations and
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Speaker 7: your citizens ceremony plus or minus three days around Australia Day. Previously,
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Speaker 7: ONNY Council just automatically celebrated Australia Day on the twenty
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Speaker 7: sixth of January as decided by the Conwealth Government. As
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Speaker 7: a result, individual councils last year made an individual decision
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Speaker 7: is what whether they thought the twenty sixth of January
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Speaker 7: was an appropriate day to celebrate Australians. Then, having decided
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Speaker 7: that that's for twenty twenty, that was for this year.
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Speaker 7: They decided that because to do a good public consultation
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Speaker 7: engaging with five thousand, sixteen thousand people and to get
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Speaker 7: a quality reply takes months of setting up take sharing
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Speaker 7: in public libraries, etc.
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Speaker 1: Letting people know what's happening. Excuse me for jumping in there, Michael.
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Speaker 2: Then, as precipitated by Labour's move federally to give counsels
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Speaker 2: the flexitivity because previously the federal governor said no, you
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Speaker 2: should do this on Australia Day.
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Speaker 1: Now, so you made that move.
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Speaker 2: We know there's lots of noisy activists and a lot
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Speaker 2: of people in the media kicking up a fast saying they.
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Speaker 1: Can't have it on January the twenty sixth.
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Speaker 2: But now you've had the time to do the survey,
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Speaker 2: you find out the surprise surprise, that the overwhelming majority
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Speaker 2: of people in your council actually want Australia Day and
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Speaker 2: the ceremonies to be on the twenty sixth.
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Speaker 7: Well it's not quite that easy, Chris, because we had
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Speaker 7: seven councilors last year who personally thought that it was
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Speaker 7: not the appropriate day to be bringing the whole of
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Speaker 7: Australia together. And then one of those counselors who made
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Speaker 7: the resolution last year to move away from Australia Day
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Speaker 7: said this year we're going to have a survey and
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Speaker 7: do it properly. We've got the time, and unanimously counsel
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Speaker 7: agreed to ask a set of three questions and to
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Speaker 7: carry out the same survey as methodology that we used.
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Speaker 7: And then the results did come back. Because you know,
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Speaker 7: in today's age it's an echo chamber. You have social
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Speaker 7: media and guess what, everybody you talked to tends to
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Speaker 7: agree with you. So you think this survey is going
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Speaker 7: to produce the results I want.
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Speaker 1: And so in local.
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Speaker 7: Government, however, we've got a ride cross section of people
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Speaker 7: who disagree on different issues, just like the community does,
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Speaker 7: and it it's important for our democracy to be able
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Speaker 7: to sensibly and carefully disagree.
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Speaker 1: With each other and come to resolution.
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Speaker 7: So three councilors changed to join the five councilors who
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Speaker 7: voted to celebrate on the twenty sixth last year, against
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Speaker 7: their better judgment, but backing what the community.
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Speaker 1: Of unmaking what they wanted.
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Speaker 7: So seventy two percent of out backing what they wanted.
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Speaker 7: Seventy two percent of our community said we should hold
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Speaker 7: an Australia Day community event in twenty twenty five, and
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Speaker 7: sixty one percent of our community said that we should
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Speaker 7: have the citizenship Sarahmi on Australia Day.
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Speaker 2: Well, there you go, the people have spoken. Thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining us, Michael. I appreciate that, Michael Hidtson.
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Speaker 1: They're the mayor of Unley. That's the issue, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: So many times the elected representatives have different views to
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Speaker 2: the people who.
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Speaker 1: Put them there.
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Speaker 2: You can't put out a bloody survey for every issue,
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Speaker 2: but they did on this one and the popular view prevails.
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Speaker 1: Now we've got to get to a break. On the
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Speaker 1: other side of that, I'll be ching up with Susi
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Speaker 1: o brien and Christy McSweeney.
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about no relief there today from
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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank when it comes to interest rates, and
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Speaker 2: also what do you reckon about state governments forcing you
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Speaker 2: to accept pets in a house that you own. Before
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Speaker 2: we go to the panel, let me update you on
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Speaker 2: the ABC and it's shoddy journalism smearing our soldiers as
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Speaker 2: war criminals. Despite Channel seven Spotlight program exposing the ABC's
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Speaker 2: docted vision and audio and deceptive journalism on Sunday night
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Speaker 2: last week, the ABC's Media Watch program the following night,
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Speaker 2: as I told you, completely ignored it. There's been such
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Speaker 2: a backlash and more revelations, so they were shamed into
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Speaker 2: covering it last night.
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Speaker 8: So that's two pieces of vision that have been called
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Speaker 8: into question, the online clip and the seven thirty broadcast
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Speaker 8: with seven's Chris Reason asking Russell how many shots did
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Speaker 8: you count?
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Speaker 9: It's about eleven or twelve now, alleging another case of
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Speaker 9: added gunfire audio in a seven thirty report on Australian
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Speaker 9: War crimes allegations in Afghanistan.
22:09
Speaker 4: That digging themselves a deeper hole because there's been many
22:11
Speaker 4: edits made to sensationalize this story.
22:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, Media Watcher's usual host Paul Barry is on leave,
22:17
Speaker 2: would you believe, but his stand in Jeaneine Perrott, told
22:20
Speaker 2: ABC viewers he might not have heard about any of
22:23
Speaker 2: this because, surprise, surprise, the ABC hasn't been reporting it.
22:27
Speaker 1: She told them about the ABC holding a full review,
22:31
Speaker 1: among other things.
22:32
Speaker 8: They have confirmed that the review will also look at
22:35
Speaker 8: the claims of former DEA agent Brett Hamilton, who says
22:38
Speaker 8: he was taken out of context in the seven thirty story,
22:42
Speaker 8: and on the embarrassing issue of the missed legal warning.
22:45
Speaker 1: The ABC says it was not ignored that information in
22:49
Speaker 1: the letter was innocently overlooked.
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Speaker 8: That's why we think it's critical this independent review will
22:56
Speaker 8: take in ABC News and the legal department.
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Speaker 2: Well, Hamilton wasn't so much taken out of context as
23:03
Speaker 2: had his words manipulated to give the opposite meaning. And
23:07
Speaker 2: yes we now know the ABC has known about this
23:11
Speaker 2: shocking and dishonest journalism for almost two years and did nothing,
23:16
Speaker 2: did absolutely nothing until Channel seven expose them publicly, yet
23:22
Speaker 2: despite all the tax dollars we send to them, there's
23:25
Speaker 2: no one in charge at the ABC.
23:31
Speaker 1: Let's bring in the panel now.
23:32
Speaker 2: Susi O'Brien is back from the Herald Sun, joining us
23:35
Speaker 2: in Melbourne. Also, Christy McSweeney, Managing Director of pr Council,
23:39
Speaker 2: you're also in Melbourne. It's all happening in Melbourne this week,
23:42
Speaker 2: Grand final week, Susie.
23:43
Speaker 1: Good to have you back. Amazing that the.
23:46
Speaker 2: ABC finally acknowledges this scandal. They've sort of been pretending
23:50
Speaker 2: it had happened for a long while.
23:54
Speaker 10: Will they say the latter went to the legal department,
23:56
Speaker 10: but somehow for two years no one actually thought to
23:59
Speaker 10: tell the news department. I mean, come on, and it's
24:02
Speaker 10: interesting that this has happened before to the same journalist
24:06
Speaker 10: and the same program, So you just really do have
24:08
Speaker 10: to wonder what's going on there.
24:10
Speaker 2: Absolutely now, the big news today economically is no relief
24:14
Speaker 2: for home buyers.
24:15
Speaker 1: Christy, let's first hear from the rb governor.
24:18
Speaker 2: The RBA Governor, Michelle Bulloch, because she hasn't got any
24:21
Speaker 2: good news for anyone.
24:23
Speaker 11: I'll stay out of the politics of it, John. My
24:26
Speaker 11: only comment would be that what we are doing is
24:30
Speaker 11: what we think is best to maintain this narrow path
24:33
Speaker 11: of bringing inflation back down because it's still too high,
24:37
Speaker 11: still not back in the band, and according to our
24:39
Speaker 11: current forecast, it's not really forecasts to come back sustainably
24:43
Speaker 11: into the band until twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Six, twenty twenty six. Now, Christia, of course there's lots
24:48
Speaker 2: of politics around this.
24:49
Speaker 1: We don't care about that. People just care about when
24:51
Speaker 1: their rates are going down, and that's not very encouraging.
24:56
Speaker 12: Of course, I do rates in a twelve year high.
25:00
Speaker 12: We've watched the Reserve Bank Governor Michelle Buloke today give
25:03
Speaker 12: that press conference peppered by media from all quarters that
25:08
Speaker 12: are quoting back Wayne Swan, of course the world's greatest
25:11
Speaker 12: treasure atrease of your recall who has been launching grenades
25:17
Speaker 12: to the RBA. And of course we all saw the
25:19
Speaker 12: faith that fulfilled Paul of Philip Lowe. The RBO governor
25:24
Speaker 12: are desperate not to get involved in politics, but of
25:27
Speaker 12: course there's an RBA reform bill on the table that
25:32
Speaker 12: labor wants to get done, and the Greens say they
25:35
Speaker 12: won't support it until the RBA cuts interest rates. So
25:39
Speaker 12: like it or not, the Reserve Bank is becoming even
25:42
Speaker 12: more politicized than they would like to be if they
25:46
Speaker 12: weren't already in that bucket. In any case, in this
25:51
Speaker 12: election period, it's going to be really tough for them.
25:54
Speaker 12: It's going to be really tough for the government to
25:57
Speaker 12: try and go out and campaign campaign on cost of
26:00
Speaker 12: living when the Reserve Bank governor is out there say
26:02
Speaker 12: we didn't even consider cutting the rights. This meeting was
26:05
Speaker 12: about what the settings have to get to down the
26:09
Speaker 12: track leading up to twenty twenty six. It wasn't even
26:13
Speaker 12: did we consider it.
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Speaker 2: Labor are just desperate, desperate to get one interest rate
26:18
Speaker 2: cut before they go to the polls next year.
26:21
Speaker 1: That's the big question for them. And of course I
26:23
Speaker 1: want to spend heaps in their budget too to try
26:26
Speaker 1: and buy votes.
26:27
Speaker 2: So it's going to be very bad for the economy
26:29
Speaker 2: and very fascinating.
26:30
Speaker 1: Politically to watch. Now. I've got to go to your columns, Susie.
26:34
Speaker 1: You've outed yourself as a planet killer.
26:37
Speaker 2: You bought a house with a gas stove and gas heating,
26:40
Speaker 2: and I got to tell you we put a gas
26:41
Speaker 2: fire in when we renovated two years ago.
26:43
Speaker 1: It's my favorite item, the favorite thing I own.
26:47
Speaker 5: I reckon.
26:47
Speaker 1: This is my gas heater, so I think you've chosen.
26:49
Speaker 10: Well, oh, I mean, it's absolutely outrageous that people like
26:55
Speaker 10: me are legally buying houses with gas appliances, and in Victoria,
26:59
Speaker 10: we don't even know if we're going to be able
27:01
Speaker 10: to replace them or fix them, or what we're going
27:04
Speaker 10: to be able to do. You know, five million householders
27:07
Speaker 10: are caught between this unholy war between the Greens, labor,
27:14
Speaker 10: federal labor, state labor, the power companies, you know, and
27:17
Speaker 10: we've got the state government who was introducing a gas
27:20
Speaker 10: band by stealth, kind of getting the legislation in place
27:24
Speaker 10: just in case they're going to need it, and you know,
27:26
Speaker 10: and they're saying ideologically, someone like me who's just done
27:30
Speaker 10: nothing more than buy a house, is a climate change
27:36
Speaker 10: catastrophic kind of person. For you know what, this ideology
27:40
Speaker 10: is not going to heat my house in winter with
27:44
Speaker 10: you completely over it. I mean, I love turning on
27:47
Speaker 10: that kettle, and you know, put turning on the gas,
27:50
Speaker 10: turning on that eater.
27:51
Speaker 2: Hopefully political reality and economic reality hit them over here
27:56
Speaker 2: at some stage.
27:57
Speaker 5: You know.
27:57
Speaker 2: It's we love our guests, we love our guess and
28:01
Speaker 2: I hope people vote them out if they keep going
28:03
Speaker 2: down this path. Just quickly, Christy, I want to get
28:05
Speaker 2: to you on this issue. I think it's already been
28:07
Speaker 2: an issue in Victoria, but the Liberal the Labor government
28:11
Speaker 2: in New South Wales is now talking about doing this
28:13
Speaker 2: and that is saying that if you own an investment
28:16
Speaker 2: proper property, you've got to have a reason to reject pets.
28:20
Speaker 2: You can't just say no pets allowed there. I own
28:23
Speaker 2: the property, then it's my choice, isn't it whether I
28:26
Speaker 2: let some filthy mutt live in the house or not?
28:32
Speaker 12: Isn't it Well, this all comes down to the debate.
28:34
Speaker 12: We've heard this language from Green's MPAs and Labor mpays
28:39
Speaker 12: over the last little while, saying housing is a fundamental
28:42
Speaker 12: human right.
28:43
Speaker 1: But of course.
28:44
Speaker 12: Housing is an asset class like any other asset class
28:47
Speaker 12: in this country. People have invested into that asset class
28:52
Speaker 12: and it's the biggest property is the biggest asset class.
28:55
Speaker 1: Pool in the country. If you are those calls, it
29:01
Speaker 1: is yours.
29:02
Speaker 12: The Government of Western Australia went one further than Chris
29:05
Speaker 12: Mints in April brought in reforms to say that rents
29:09
Speaker 12: can go up only once every twelve months, up from
29:12
Speaker 12: six and that renters can make modifications to their property.
29:16
Speaker 1: All the regulation makes it worse Australia.
29:19
Speaker 2: They need to encourage rental accommodation by getting rid of
29:22
Speaker 2: all these restrictions. Thanks for joining us, appreciate your time.
29:25
Speaker 2: Cusi O'Brien and Christy McSweeney. We're going to get to
29:28
Speaker 2: another break because they've got more of Peter Dutton coming up.
29:31
Speaker 2: Plus we've got Kristen Tate on whether we're going to
29:33
Speaker 2: see a second debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Tate. Donald,
29:41
Speaker 2: let's get back to my chat with the opposition leader.
29:43
Speaker 2: One of the big areas where governments should be helping
29:45
Speaker 2: us on costs of living is, of course, electricity prices.
29:48
Speaker 2: Labor promised to cut them, but has forced them ever upwards.
29:53
Speaker 2: Yet Labor keeps demanding to know how much the coalition's
29:56
Speaker 2: nuclear energy plan will cost. I mean, how much is
29:59
Speaker 2: labour is planned costing while it's making everything worse? I
30:03
Speaker 2: asked Peter Dutton if he knew how much the current
30:06
Speaker 2: transition to renewables plus storage is expected to cost.
30:11
Speaker 6: Chris that there are two figures that are floating around
30:14
Speaker 6: at the moment. Are both put out by credible commentators
30:17
Speaker 6: and observers and experts in this area. They price the
30:21
Speaker 6: government's energy plan between one point two and one point
30:24
Speaker 6: five at trillion dollars. That money is not going to
30:27
Speaker 6: be paid for by anybody other than the taxpayers, by
30:32
Speaker 6: people who haven't a bill.
30:33
Speaker 5: That's continued to go, continuing to go. And it's not
30:36
Speaker 5: not just families.
30:38
Speaker 6: It's not just you know, your household electricity bill that's
30:41
Speaker 6: going through the roof under this government. It's also the
30:45
Speaker 6: small business, it's the farmer, it's the local cafe with
30:48
Speaker 6: a cold room out the back. It's an unbelievable situation
30:53
Speaker 6: that the government's presiding over at the moment because the
30:56
Speaker 6: energy regulator is saying that under Labour's renewables only plan
31:00
Speaker 6: to see a disruption to supply, so blackouts and brown
31:02
Speaker 6: outs and the price is going to continue to escalate
31:05
Speaker 6: year on year. And when the PM is out there saying, oh, look,
31:08
Speaker 6: you know the wind's free and the sun's free, well
31:10
Speaker 6: it forgets to tell you that they're proposing twenty eight
31:13
Speaker 6: thousand kilometers of new poles and wires. All of that
31:17
Speaker 6: cost is going to be passed on to consumers. And
31:19
Speaker 6: our argument is that with nuclear you've got a zero
31:22
Speaker 6: emissions technology, you've got a constant power twenty four to seven.
31:26
Speaker 5: Power source, you have cheaper electricity.
31:29
Speaker 6: Evidenced elsewhere in the world where there is nuclear energy.
31:32
Speaker 5: In Ontario, people are paying a third of the cost
31:35
Speaker 5: of electricity that.
31:36
Speaker 6: We are here, and you can amortize the cost over
31:40
Speaker 6: a sixty to eighty year plus period. The wind turbines
31:43
Speaker 6: need to be replaced three or four times in the lifespan.
31:47
Speaker 5: Of a nuclear reactor.
31:48
Speaker 6: So but this week again we need to be realistic
31:51
Speaker 6: about our countries needs.
31:52
Speaker 5: No economy.
31:54
Speaker 6: No economy can function properly without secure energy and without
31:58
Speaker 6: affordable energy. And at the mister Urbanese's policy of renewables
32:02
Speaker 6: only is just going to continue to drive up the
32:04
Speaker 6: price of electricity and gas.
32:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I know on to your plan.
32:08
Speaker 2: The government would fund nuclear power plants. There's nothing particularly
32:13
Speaker 2: unusual about that. We've got the government currently funding snowy
32:16
Speaker 2: two point zero and also funding a gas generation plant
32:19
Speaker 2: in the Hunter, plus funding all sorts of other subsidies.
32:22
Speaker 2: But my question is whether that's necessary when you look
32:25
Speaker 2: at Microsoft, for instance, now underwriting the reopening of the
32:29
Speaker 2: Three Mile Island Nuclear power plant in Pennsylvania and other
32:34
Speaker 2: private investors funding nuclear developments around the world.
32:37
Speaker 1: Is there the possibility that we could.
32:39
Speaker 2: Get private money funding nuclear power plants in this country.
32:42
Speaker 2: I look at one of the biggest energy users in
32:45
Speaker 2: mining BHP at roxby Downs, where they mine uranium, and
32:49
Speaker 2: they could have a nuclear plant in the Iron Triangle
32:51
Speaker 2: funding their their project, their mining, their processing, as well
32:55
Speaker 2: as the feeding into the national electricity grid.
33:01
Speaker 6: Because I think that's a proposal that Premier Melanaskis would
33:04
Speaker 6: be very open to. In South Australia, obviously there's no
33:07
Speaker 6: concerns about safety because the Labor government federally and at
33:11
Speaker 6: a state level they've signed up to ORCUST the nuclear
33:14
Speaker 6: propelled submarine and if you've got sub mariners sleeping on
33:18
Speaker 6: the submarine alongside the nuclear reactor, well clearly you don't
33:22
Speaker 6: have any concerns about safety.
33:24
Speaker 5: And it's a good point that you make.
33:27
Speaker 6: In terms of uranium, we have the biggest deposits of
33:29
Speaker 6: uranium in the world. There is huge demand and growing
33:33
Speaker 6: demand because of the number of countries taking up.
33:36
Speaker 5: The use of nuclear energy now, so there.
33:38
Speaker 6: Is a huge export opportunity for us. But if we
33:42
Speaker 6: want to bring prices down in our country. There is
33:45
Speaker 6: an opportunity for us to do that with nuclear power.
33:48
Speaker 6: In terms of the ownership model, it's not just about
33:50
Speaker 6: the capital cost, but it's also about creating an asset
33:53
Speaker 6: for the Commonwealth, and it's also about giving assurances on
33:57
Speaker 6: safety and the regulation around maintenance, et cetera for the public.
34:02
Speaker 6: That's been an important part of the feedback that we've
34:05
Speaker 6: got as we've spoken to people, particularly in those communities
34:09
Speaker 6: which would be host communities. And when you look at
34:12
Speaker 6: the international experience, Chris, you've got the top twenty, the
34:16
Speaker 6: top twenty economies around the world, the biggest economies, nineteen
34:21
Speaker 6: of them have nuclear power, or have expressed an interest in,
34:26
Speaker 6: or have signed up.
34:27
Speaker 5: To nuclear power as part of their system.
34:29
Speaker 6: Australia is the only country that hasn't done that, and
34:34
Speaker 6: the Labor Party in the UK, in France, in the
34:37
Speaker 6: United States all completely signed up to nuclear and yet
34:40
Speaker 6: we've got this juvenile week approach by Prime Minister Albanesi
34:44
Speaker 6: and Chris Bowen and Jim Chalmers who say it can't
34:47
Speaker 6: happen in our country.
34:48
Speaker 5: It just doesn't make any sense.
34:50
Speaker 6: And when ninety percent of the twenty four to seven
34:52
Speaker 6: power comes out of the system by twenty thirty four.
34:56
Speaker 5: You need to have reliable baseload power.
35:00
Speaker 6: At the moment the government doesn't have that, which is
35:02
Speaker 6: why prices are going up. It's why the Prime Minister
35:05
Speaker 6: can't deliver on his promise of two hundred and seventy
35:07
Speaker 6: five dollars reduction in people's electricity prices, and it's why
35:11
Speaker 6: we've seen a threefold increase of manufacturing businesses in Australia
35:16
Speaker 6: over the last two years under this government.
35:19
Speaker 2: You've been generous with your time, Peter Dutton. Just one
35:21
Speaker 2: final question, if I may. Immigration is a problem in
35:25
Speaker 2: the country. We've got record levels far higher than Labor
35:28
Speaker 2: said it would be.
35:29
Speaker 1: They've admitted it's a problem.
35:30
Speaker 2: They're saying they want to have the immigration rate but
35:32
Speaker 2: they're not doing that.
35:34
Speaker 1: How can that be the case.
35:36
Speaker 2: Why can't they actually bring down the rate of immigration
35:39
Speaker 2: they're issuing the visas and what would you do?
35:41
Speaker 1: What would you do to make sure you could bring.
35:43
Speaker 2: The immigration rate down to a sustainable level quickly?
35:48
Speaker 6: Well, Chris, I think you should always look at what
35:51
Speaker 6: people do as opposed to what they say in politics,
35:53
Speaker 6: and the Prime Minister Labour always promise that they'll have
35:56
Speaker 6: strong border protections, they'll have operations sovereign borders as the
36:00
Speaker 6: coalition has. They'll have the same visa cancelation regime as
36:04
Speaker 6: a coalition government. It never happens. We've got boats that
36:06
Speaker 6: are being turned back at the moment. Let's hope that
36:08
Speaker 6: they continue to be turned back. Some are getting through
36:11
Speaker 6: without the government even knowing anything about them. We know
36:14
Speaker 6: that the criminals that they're releasing into the community, people
36:18
Speaker 6: who have committed very serious crimes against Australian citizens. That's
36:22
Speaker 6: sending all the wrong messages. We should be proud of
36:25
Speaker 6: our country. We live in the best country in the world,
36:28
Speaker 6: and if we don't stand up for our values and
36:31
Speaker 6: our rights, then we'll be taken advantage of. And that's
36:33
Speaker 6: what's happening in part of the migration program at the moment,
36:36
Speaker 6: where criminals know that.
36:37
Speaker 5: They can commit criminal acts and not be deported.
36:40
Speaker 6: It also turns out that international students are claiming protection
36:44
Speaker 6: when they're here, so there are integrity issues. I think
36:47
Speaker 6: the government's lost control of the migration program. Over a
36:51
Speaker 6: five year period, they're bringing in one point six million people,
36:54
Speaker 6: a population the size of Adelaide, and there's been no
36:57
Speaker 6: planning for it, and the Prime Minister didn't say anything
36:59
Speaker 6: about this before the election, that he would have the
37:02
Speaker 6: biggest migration intake in our country's history. And over the
37:05
Speaker 6: last two years, nine hundred and twenty four thousand people
37:08
Speaker 6: have come in, but only three hundred thousand homes have
37:11
Speaker 6: been built, and it's no wonder that they've created a
37:13
Speaker 6: housing crisis. So we will get the migration program back
37:17
Speaker 6: under control, and we will deport people who commit crimes
37:20
Speaker 6: against Australian citizens and will restore integrity to our migration program,
37:25
Speaker 6: which is what I did as Home Affairs Minister and
37:27
Speaker 6: as Minister for Immigration and Border Protection.
37:30
Speaker 5: We know how to do it and we will do
37:32
Speaker 5: it again.
37:33
Speaker 6: We'll clean up Labour's mess, which is always the responsibility
37:36
Speaker 6: of a liberal government.
37:37
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton, you've got a busy week ahead, but are
37:40
Speaker 2: you going to get to the g to back the
37:41
Speaker 2: Brisbane lines on Saturday?
37:44
Speaker 6: I will be there with Bells on. I was a
37:46
Speaker 6: bit devastated last year, but Sydney's a great team, though
37:49
Speaker 6: we had to be on the weekend. But the Lions
37:52
Speaker 6: have snatched a few games that they probably shouldn't have,
37:56
Speaker 6: so they'll have that drive and that tenacity that so
38:00
Speaker 6: that you would expect from a great team.
38:01
Speaker 5: So hopefully we can still be friends after Saturday.
38:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might see you there. It's going to be
38:08
Speaker 1: a cracking game. Thanks for joining us, Peter, Thanks mate,
38:11
Speaker 1: thank you.
38:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I Peter, it un't suggesting. I'm a Swan supporter
38:16
Speaker 2: and I'm a Crow supporter. But yeah, I had two
38:18
Speaker 2: little boys who are mad Swan supporters and I'll be
38:20
Speaker 2: cheering on with them.
38:21
Speaker 1: I think I'd like to see Sydney get there. But
38:23
Speaker 1: it should be a great game.
38:24
Speaker 2: Now let's go to the US and check in on
38:26
Speaker 2: their politics. And since that better than expected performance by
38:30
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris in her debate with Donald Trump, most of
38:32
Speaker 2: the polls have shown her two or three points ahead nationally.
38:36
Speaker 2: Now that's not quite as good for her as it sounds,
38:39
Speaker 2: because a fifty to fifty national split would actually likely
38:42
Speaker 2: lead to a Trump victory because of his standing in
38:45
Speaker 2: the Key States, and that's where the latest New York
38:48
Speaker 2: Times poll is encouraging for the Republicans. It's got Trump
38:52
Speaker 2: surging back, especially in the key swing states. In Arizona,
38:56
Speaker 2: which Biden one in twenty twenty. The poll has Harris
38:59
Speaker 2: trailing Trump by five percent. In North Carolina, where Trump
39:03
Speaker 2: snuck a winning last time, he's up two points. And
39:06
Speaker 2: the crucial state of Georgia, where Biden held Trump out,
39:09
Speaker 2: the Republican is now four points ahead of Kamala Harris.
39:14
Speaker 1: So there you have it.
39:15
Speaker 2: This thing is lion ball that I still reckon the
39:17
Speaker 2: carall come down to Pennsylvania and Harris is still just
39:21
Speaker 2: ahead there.
39:22
Speaker 1: When I caught up with Kristen Tate.
39:23
Speaker 2: I asked her about the big Oprah Winfrey event with
39:26
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris and whether that had much of an impact.
39:31
Speaker 13: Honestly, it's really the media that's very interested in that, Chris.
39:35
Speaker 13: But at that interview, did not move the needle at
39:38
Speaker 13: all here in the US, because we all know Oprah's
39:40
Speaker 13: totally in the tank for calm law.
39:42
Speaker 1: She gave that.
39:43
Speaker 13: Speech at the Democrat convention and she's just a sick
39:47
Speaker 13: of fan. So didn't move the needle at all here.
39:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what struck me about it was there was
39:52
Speaker 1: just no substance to it.
39:53
Speaker 2: There was no policies, there were no details, There were
39:56
Speaker 2: just lots of empty words.
39:57
Speaker 1: How to look at this little clip.
40:00
Speaker 2: Looking at you had a speech like the week before
40:03
Speaker 2: which was a great speech, very nice, and then the
40:07
Speaker 2: next week are.
40:08
Speaker 1: You walking in the thing?
40:13
Speaker 9: I said?
40:16
Speaker 1: What happened to you?
40:20
Speaker 10: You know, we each have those moments in our lives
40:22
Speaker 10: where it's time to step up.
40:24
Speaker 1: Time to step up, and to step up.
40:26
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, time to step up, Christaer, step up
40:30
Speaker 2: to do What all she ever says is we're in
40:33
Speaker 2: the moment of time and it's about the country that
40:35
Speaker 2: we're in and you know, and back in this moment,
40:39
Speaker 2: and she just is not promising anything.
40:43
Speaker 1: Tangible, is she.
40:45
Speaker 13: Well, that's their plan. You're going to try to coast
40:48
Speaker 13: into the election on vibes, making people feel good.
40:52
Speaker 1: And running on joy.
40:54
Speaker 13: When you drive around here in the United States, Kamala
40:56
Speaker 13: Harris supporters will put lawn signs outside of their homes
41:00
Speaker 13: that say choose Joy. It's all about the vibes and feelings,
41:04
Speaker 13: but not at.
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Speaker 1: All about policies. That is why the last.
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Speaker 13: Debate was so frustrating for US conservatives Chris, because Trump
41:12
Speaker 13: needed to hammer her on the economy, immigration, and crime.
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Speaker 13: Every single answer he gave should have been on those
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Speaker 13: three topics in order to define Kamala that the Democrats
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Speaker 13: won't be allowed to do what they are doing. There's
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Speaker 13: so little time until voting day that they may just
41:27
Speaker 13: be able to get over the finish line without really
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Speaker 13: discussing any substent of issues here.
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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned the dibiden.
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Speaker 2: There's no doubt that Kamala Harris did a lot better
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Speaker 2: than most people expected, myself included.
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Speaker 1: So now she's spoiling for another one here. She is
41:43
Speaker 1: heavy here and I would like another debate, So I
41:46
Speaker 1: love the former vice as real.
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Speaker 4: Well agree to that, but we have a lot moready
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Speaker 4: with set.
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Speaker 1: So there we got this.
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, she wants another deviate, but Donald Trump, he's
41:54
Speaker 2: not so Kain.
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Speaker 14: The problem with another debate is that it's just too late.
41:59
Speaker 14: Voting is all already started. She's had her chance to
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Speaker 14: do it with Fox. You know, Fox invited us on
42:04
Speaker 14: and I waited and waited, and they turned it down,
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Speaker 14: and they turned it down.
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Speaker 5: But now she wants to do.
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Speaker 14: A debate right before the election with CNN because she's
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Speaker 14: losing badly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kristin explained this to me because I think this
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Speaker 2: is a mistake by Donald Trump. I think he's better
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Speaker 2: off getting back into the ring with her and doing
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Speaker 2: it properly.
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Speaker 1: Mentioning all those issues you just you just downline for us.
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Speaker 13: Trump needs another debate here. This race isn't a dead heat,
42:33
Speaker 13: but the enthusiasm has been with Kalmala ever since they
42:36
Speaker 13: chose her as a replacement for an actual corpse.
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Speaker 1: Trump saw that.
42:41
Speaker 13: Huge bump of enthusiasm after the first assassination attempt. But
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Speaker 13: he needs another defining moment to seeze back some of
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Speaker 13: those percentage points that he has lost in the last
42:52
Speaker 13: couple of weeks. And you know, Trump looks weak if
42:55
Speaker 13: he says he's not going to debate her again. He
42:58
Speaker 13: needs to define his office position.
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Speaker 1: That's what he needs to do.
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Speaker 13: But Chris, if he does a second debate, needs to
43:04
Speaker 13: be much more disciplined in his preparations. Every single answer
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Speaker 13: that he gives, regardless of the question, needs to be
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Speaker 13: on the topics where Kamala Harris is actively destroying this
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Speaker 13: country again. It's crime, immigration economy, crime and immigration economy.
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Speaker 13: And he should paint vivid pictures with anecdotes of actual
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Speaker 13: Americans who are struggling, who go to their schools, who
43:29
Speaker 13: go to their hospitals. They are over flooded with the
43:31
Speaker 13: legal immigrants. They can't afford to go buy groceries, and
43:34
Speaker 13: yet we are sending all of our tax dollars across
43:37
Speaker 13: the world to other nations to start wars around the world.
43:41
Speaker 13: We have a border that's completely open. We have cities
43:44
Speaker 13: that are cesspools of crime. These are the pictures he
43:47
Speaker 13: needs to paint. And he can't let herbate him into
43:51
Speaker 13: these petty debates about debate about rally sizes or whatever
43:56
Speaker 13: he tried to do last.
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Speaker 1: Time spot on.
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Speaker 2: I think he needs it to bite and say only
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Speaker 2: way to present those issues to her, to pin her
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Speaker 2: down on those issues, because.
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Speaker 1: The media certainly won't do it for him.
44:05
Speaker 2: So he should be pushing for more debates, not running
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Speaker 2: away from them.
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Speaker 1: Just in the meantime.
44:10
Speaker 2: You talk about weakness, what about the bloke who's still
44:13
Speaker 2: in the White House, still the leader of the free
44:15
Speaker 2: will Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: This week a couple of stuff ups, but let's pick
44:18
Speaker 1: one of them.
44:19
Speaker 2: Here he is where he spots a helicopter while he's
44:22
Speaker 2: hosting the quad leaders. By the way, that little thing
44:29
Speaker 2: up in the air there, don't worry about it.
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Speaker 5: It's not armed.
44:35
Speaker 2: Well, apart from being bizarre and seemingly befuddled, it's in
44:40
Speaker 2: relatively poor taste, isn't it tele everyone to relax.
44:43
Speaker 1: It's not armed, of course.
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Speaker 13: I mean, it's just a complete joke that this man
44:49
Speaker 13: is president of the United States. Still, and remember Kamala
44:52
Speaker 13: Harris went along with the lie that he was totally
44:55
Speaker 13: fine and keeping for this for the last minute when
44:57
Speaker 13: they meet her the nominee. But what Americans need to
45:00
Speaker 13: realize is that it doesn't matter who their nominee is,
45:02
Speaker 13: whether it's Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. We are running
45:06
Speaker 13: against a Democrat machine, and the sooner Republicans realize that,
45:10
Speaker 13: the sooner they can effectively run against their opposition.
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Speaker 2: That is so right, the same machine that's been running
45:17
Speaker 2: the operation while Joe Biden has been asleep would be
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Speaker 2: running Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 1: Nothing would change. You're so spot on.
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Speaker 2: You should be the main strategist for the Republicans at
45:26
Speaker 2: the moment.
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Speaker 1: Kristen, thanks so much for thanks so much for joining us.
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Speaker 1: We'll catch you next week.
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Speaker 13: Thank you so much, Chris.
45:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't go away.
45:35
Speaker 2: Still to come, Tim Blair, We're going to show you
45:37
Speaker 2: this bizarre way that blackout Bowen reckons. He's going to
45:41
Speaker 2: help you get on board with his renewables pipe dream,
45:44
Speaker 2: see you soon. Well, let's brighten up the world with
45:51
Speaker 2: a bit of common sense from the Daily Telegraphs Tim Blair,
45:54
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Tim. I loved your
45:58
Speaker 2: column this week where you were talking about our labors
46:02
Speaker 2: promoting this misinformation bill and you're saying, by their own standards,
46:07
Speaker 2: they ought to sack themselves because of the misinformation that
46:10
Speaker 2: they love to spread all the time.
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Speaker 15: Certainly, I think by the time the next election is
46:15
Speaker 15: held and we none of us have gotten out two
46:18
Speaker 15: hundred and seventy five dollars discount on electricity bills that
46:21
Speaker 15: we were promised. It was locked in, and we all
46:24
Speaker 15: remember the words from the current Prime Minister back then,
46:27
Speaker 15: just the labor leader saying that you know, I don't
46:30
Speaker 15: know that this. I don't think this is going to happen.
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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, absolutely, we've dug that out here. It
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Speaker 1: is Anthony Albanezy.
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Speaker 9: It will see electricity prices fall from the current level
46:43
Speaker 9: by two hundred and seventy five dollars for households by
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Speaker 9: twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 15: How sure are you that that two hundred and seventy
46:51
Speaker 15: five is robust when you've only got three years to
46:53
Speaker 15: deliver it.
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Speaker 9: Well, I don't think I know. I know because we
46:58
Speaker 9: have done the more length.
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Speaker 1: There, it is clear misinformation.
47:04
Speaker 2: Electricity prices have gone up by about three times the
47:08
Speaker 2: proposed cut.
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Speaker 15: And also I think all of us might have noticed
47:13
Speaker 15: in that clip that Anthony Albanez he invented a new
47:16
Speaker 15: number cheventy, very distinct. Maybe that's his wiggle ruin that
47:23
Speaker 15: he's not misinforming any when he's speaking a different language.
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Speaker 5: You know.
47:27
Speaker 2: Now there's another bit of misinformation you picked out relating
47:30
Speaker 2: to nuclear energy here. It is.
47:33
Speaker 9: No one loves a reactor like a reactionary, which is
47:37
Speaker 9: no wonder there, Cybe says, by nukes over there.
47:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, so as Prime Minister, he says, no one loves
47:43
Speaker 2: a reactor like a reactionary, so therefore it's only the
47:47
Speaker 2: right wing reactionaries who support nuclear power. He forgot that
47:51
Speaker 2: one of his alleged heroes, Bob Hawk, said nuclear power
47:55
Speaker 2: would be a wind for the environment. It would be
47:58
Speaker 2: a win for the global environment to win for Australia.
48:01
Speaker 2: So either Bob Hawks a reactionary or Elbow has.
48:03
Speaker 1: Been caught out with misinformation. Yet again, is.
48:07
Speaker 15: The misinformation disinformation build a three strikes arrangement because he's
48:11
Speaker 15: straight to missinfo jail on that, you know, like these
48:14
Speaker 15: guys are gone, they're they're all I fall them down.
48:17
Speaker 15: He's lining up his third dealing them ye bye bye.
48:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.
48:22
Speaker 2: There are so many of them, so many cases. We'll
48:24
Speaker 2: keep a watch out for all of them. I want
48:26
Speaker 2: to go to developments in the US because I know
48:27
Speaker 2: you have a keen interest in electric vehicles.
48:30
Speaker 1: The US are looking.
48:31
Speaker 2: At banning a whole lot of Chinese software and hardware
48:35
Speaker 2: because they're worried that the China could basically shut down
48:38
Speaker 2: the cars electric cars, or or even set them on
48:41
Speaker 2: fire perhaps or control them. God knows what they could
48:44
Speaker 2: do with them. If the Chinese have this computer access
48:46
Speaker 2: to the electric.
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Speaker 15: Vehicles, it's a I think the Hasbola pager clean out
48:54
Speaker 15: might have alerted people to the concerns about having millions
48:57
Speaker 15: and millions of Chinese cars the right. One of the
49:01
Speaker 15: great advantage of that China had obviously is much lower
49:03
Speaker 15: labor costs. They can produce the ev is much more
49:07
Speaker 15: much less expensively than any other market, and therefore they
49:10
Speaker 15: can flood the West with these devices, and of course
49:13
Speaker 15: with the modern modern interactive sort of electronic technology, they
49:17
Speaker 15: can load them with all manner of potentially remotely operated gadgetry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows. Let's go.
49:24
Speaker 2: Then let's finish off with a great advocate for electric vehicles.
49:27
Speaker 2: We know where Chris Bowen is often the scene driving
49:29
Speaker 2: around in a government funded electric vehicle. But he's got
49:33
Speaker 2: more good news for anybody who's worried about renewable energy
49:37
Speaker 2: and how to recycle the waste from renewable energy.
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Speaker 9: You have a look, well, I don't normally talk about
49:42
Speaker 9: the shoes I'm wearing on social media, but these shoes
49:45
Speaker 9: are made from recycled wind blades.
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Speaker 11: Now there's a myth out there that somehow renewables can't
49:50
Speaker 11: be recycled, when in fact, around eighty five percent.
49:53
Speaker 1: Of what's in a wind turbine can be.
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Speaker 2: Recycled recycled wind turbines and shoes.
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Speaker 15: No, I'm not buying it, Chris. I think if if
50:02
Speaker 15: the minister wants to demonstrate his complete commitment to WIN farms,
50:06
Speaker 15: he should wear win wind blade shoes before they're recycled.
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Speaker 15: I would I would like very much to see that.
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Speaker 15: I think people would would line up and pay pay
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Speaker 15: good money to see that.
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Speaker 2: He could go for a walk and slash the hay
50:19
Speaker 2: at the same time.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining his simplayer.
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Speaker 2: Full of good ideas, a sensible policy advice for Australia.
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Speaker 1: I'll be back tomorrow night at five. Here's Peter Kredlin.