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- 0:39Speaker 2: game off. Hey, good Monday morning. Welcome into the radio program.
- 0:57Speaker 2: It is Chucking Box Sports Radio ninety three point three KJFM.
- 1:00Speaker 2: All the usual suspects are here. Ashley Ryan is here,
- 1:04Speaker 2: former Mariner, Bucky Jacobson. My name is Chuck powellan welco
- 1:08Speaker 2: up to Tamper Fast twenty twenty six, where today everybody's
- 1:15Speaker 2: gonna be getting their tampon. And John Schneider, we got
- 1:19Speaker 2: our eyes fixed on you man, the executive of the year,
- 1:23Speaker 2: the hottest general manager in all of sports. He's like
- 1:27Speaker 2: a tampire. He is like, I mean the fangs are out.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Don't kid yourself. Oh yeah, Count sign Youla is ready
- 1:38Speaker 2: to go for Tamperfest to twenty twenty six. So we
- 1:43Speaker 2: welcome you into the radio program where all things are
- 1:47Speaker 2: warm and toasty inside as we get ready to tamper
- 1:51Speaker 2: with every single person that could help the Seahawks for
- 1:54Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, but some of us barely made it in.
- 1:58Speaker 2: What did you have snow this morning? I mean, what
- 2:00Speaker 2: a shocking revelation. I had no idea there was snow anywhere, and.
- 2:04Speaker 5: Washing it makes sense. Once I got to four or five,
- 2:06Speaker 5: there was. It was dry and bare roads the whole way. Yeah,
- 2:10Speaker 5: not out of my house. I had like four inches
- 2:13Speaker 5: of snow at my house. What yeah, And then going.
- 2:16Speaker 6: Over the ridge, I did not have snow. No, just
- 2:18Speaker 6: ice on my car.
- 2:20Speaker 2: You had ice on your car. It's cold and snowy. Well,
- 2:24Speaker 2: you know what they say about Woodenville. It is the
- 2:26Speaker 2: Bahamas of the Pacific North. Yeah. Yeah, so rarely a
- 2:31Speaker 2: lot a lot out here that I got tan this morning. Yeah,
- 2:41Speaker 2: time change, So it was even sunshiny this morning when
- 2:44Speaker 2: I woke up.
- 2:45Speaker 5: No, yeah, you slept in a hammock last night. Yeah,
- 2:48Speaker 5: there's some waves crashing.
- 2:50Speaker 2: It was like living in a Bahama breeze. Yeah, you
- 2:54Speaker 2: could just get mixed drinks and right, apparently those are
- 2:58Speaker 2: really popular some places, but in most places they fail,
- 3:02Speaker 2: like nothing ever failed.
- 3:03Speaker 6: Yeah, you put them in places where you're not going
- 3:05Speaker 6: for great food, like South Center mall.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, but you got you. You had four
- 3:11Speaker 2: inches of snow goodness, yeah.
- 3:14Speaker 5: Crazy and going over the ridge like where Purple Sheet lives.
- 3:18Speaker 2: It was. It was dump and even harder.
- 3:20Speaker 5: I mean they had yes, seven, eight, maybe ten inches
- 3:24Speaker 5: of snow going over that. Yeah, and I mean the
- 3:27Speaker 5: roads were just covered in slush.
- 3:29Speaker 2: It was.
- 3:30Speaker 5: It was hairy, to say the least. That's what I
- 3:32Speaker 5: got here a little bit later because I just I
- 3:34Speaker 5: couldn't go ninety in through that.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Well.
- 3:37Speaker 6: It was interesting because I was out in Bucky's Neck
- 3:39Speaker 6: of the Woods this week and it was pouring with rain,
- 3:43Speaker 6: as we say in my.
- 3:44Speaker 2: House, okay with rain, Yes, okay.
- 3:47Speaker 6: It's a British thing, I think, because I found out
- 3:49Speaker 6: that's not what most people say.
- 3:50Speaker 1: No, that pouring with bright, pouring with rain.
- 3:54Speaker 6: So I would pull the rain the radio, the weather
- 3:56Speaker 6: app up all weekend to look and I told Bucky
- 3:58Speaker 6: when I saw him yesterday. Well, at one point the
- 4:01Speaker 6: weather app said, you guys are gonna get eight to
- 4:02Speaker 6: nine inches of snow one of the days this week,
- 4:05Speaker 6: and then it went away.
- 4:06Speaker 1: But I think it's coming back. I'm just judging by this.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Yeah, well I did. It did much night for goodness sake,
- 4:13Speaker 2: and I thought we escaped winter. What the hell it's
- 4:17Speaker 2: like one hundred degrees in Arizona already. We were just
- 4:19Speaker 2: there two weeks ago.
- 4:20Speaker 5: I'm not happy about that either, after I planted one
- 4:22Speaker 5: hundred thousand wildflowers. I don't know for sure if this
- 4:26Speaker 5: is going to help that. Oh thin, it's a lot
- 4:28Speaker 5: mother nature. Oh man, wow, that is a curveball. It
- 4:32Speaker 5: was a curveball. Yeah, and uh yeah, baseball season's here,
- 4:36Speaker 5: or so it seems. And then it's like, yeah, just kidding,
- 4:38Speaker 5: how about some snowball fights. How's that sounds good?
- 4:42Speaker 2: It's going to turn into rain.
- 4:43Speaker 5: But then I guess it's supposed to cool down again
- 4:45Speaker 5: tonight and dump a little bit more tomorrow. We got
- 4:48Speaker 5: a few days of some intermittent snow. But yeah, waking
- 4:52Speaker 5: up this morning, I was like, man, that is just shocky.
- 4:55Speaker 5: I am surprised.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Me too.
- 4:57Speaker 5: I am flummoxed. Yeah, I am gobsmacked. The nature getting
- 5:00Speaker 5: her tampon.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Apparently that's what it is.
- 5:03Speaker 2: She's excited, Yeah, she's yeah, you're right.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if she's excited about it.
- 5:07Speaker 2: But tampering with your spirits, she's.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Exerting her authority, authorite.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Okay, we get it, you're powerful. Chill out, lady.
- 5:16Speaker 6: We're gonna We're not going to do anything to aggravate
- 5:18Speaker 6: you this week.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Everybody, your emotions are on it.
- 5:21Speaker 2: Everybody respects you most part, we like you. Just calm down, Yeah, ma'am,
- 5:26Speaker 2: that'd be so pushy. Yeah, jeez, well you know what. Yes,
- 5:32Speaker 2: maybe it's gonna make things a little problematic driving here
- 5:36Speaker 2: for you this morning, so be safe up on the
- 5:38Speaker 2: roads and Bucky's neck of the nape. But for the
- 5:43Speaker 2: rest of us, we're not gonna let it get in
- 5:45Speaker 2: the way of our enjoyment of the free agency.
- 5:47Speaker 1: For us, ye, getting our Tampa.
- 5:49Speaker 2: It is coming and it is gonna land right square
- 5:52Speaker 2: on our faces at nine o'clock this morning. That's when
- 5:56Speaker 2: it officially gets underway. Here's here's a little bit of
- 5:59Speaker 2: the uncomfortable truth. Is that, man, you give somebody an inch,
- 6:03Speaker 2: they'll take a mile. And as Greg pointed out to
- 6:06Speaker 2: us last week, our Seahawks inside of Greg Bell that
- 6:10Speaker 2: the tampering has been going on for weeks. And I
- 6:12Speaker 2: don't know how they're keeping the Adam Schefters in the
- 6:16Speaker 2: world and others from leaking everything they know. I don't
- 6:20Speaker 2: know how they're keeping them on the up and up.
- 6:22Speaker 2: But I can promise you the moment one of those
- 6:25Speaker 2: sons of guns leak something early, the rest of them
- 6:28Speaker 2: will leak ten things because they're not going to be
- 6:30Speaker 2: out scooped.
- 6:31Speaker 1: The floodgates are going to open.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't know how much is actually already known,
- 6:36Speaker 2: and we've just got a gag order on things. But
- 6:39Speaker 2: the NFL, you know, the season doesn't the off season
- 6:43Speaker 2: doesn't even start until Wednesday. But we then introduced this
- 6:46Speaker 2: tamper in period in which they have two hours they
- 6:49Speaker 2: excuse me, two days to get things done and this
- 6:52Speaker 2: is usually when all the free agents sign. But there
- 6:55Speaker 2: is a world out there that exists that I'm starting
- 6:59Speaker 2: to believe we already know a lot of information, we
- 7:02Speaker 2: just haven't revealed it. And so here we sit on
- 7:07Speaker 2: the day of the frenzy getting underway. The tampering period
- 7:10Speaker 2: isn't supposed to start until nine o'clock. Usually we don't
- 7:14Speaker 2: have a lot of information between now and nine o'clock. Usually,
- 7:17Speaker 2: for whatever reason, those parameters are respected by the insiders
- 7:22Speaker 2: and the diggers of information. But who knows. It feels
- 7:26Speaker 2: like it's a little bit of a changing world right now,
- 7:28Speaker 2: so maybe we'll have some information to impart before nine
- 7:32Speaker 2: am today.
- 7:32Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if some stuff starts leaking out.
- 7:35Speaker 5: And I mean, you know, they're obviously letting some people
- 7:38Speaker 5: know that they're going to be released right on the
- 7:40Speaker 5: way in. I heard that Tua has been you know,
- 7:43Speaker 5: they let him know. Not that that's news, I don't
- 7:45Speaker 5: know necessarily.
- 7:45Speaker 2: But official, Yeah, there's time like tampering, they can release
- 7:50Speaker 2: them whenever they want to release.
- 7:52Speaker 5: Yeah, but I will be interested to see what else
- 7:54Speaker 5: goes down, because you're right, they to think that they
- 7:57Speaker 5: haven't been having some sort of correspondence even though they're not.
- 8:00Speaker 5: It's a poster yet I think they they do and
- 8:02Speaker 5: and uh, and then it's whether or not they leak
- 8:05Speaker 5: it out or let it be known before the time comes.
- 8:08Speaker 5: But it will be interesting to see if what'd you
- 8:10Speaker 5: call him, count? What'd you call John Schneider.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Called him the Tampire?
- 8:15Speaker 5: The Tampire. Well, hopefully he's got his cape on. He's
- 8:19Speaker 5: got to be awake. And I'm picturing him now hiding
- 8:21Speaker 5: behind the cape, sneaking up on somebody, and I want
- 8:24Speaker 5: to well.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Of course it's night out. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll
- 8:28Speaker 2: wait for a couple more. Yeah, stuff done here soon.
- 8:31Speaker 2: I don't care what clocks we.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Changed, Yeah exactly.
- 8:33Speaker 6: I think it's Yeah, it's interesting for the first day
- 8:37Speaker 6: with the when you know, when you're getting your tampon
- 8:40Speaker 6: and your anticipating, like you're looking forward to leaks, because
- 8:43Speaker 6: that's not usually the case.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Right, right, right, in this case, I.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Think that's kind of the point of it. Yeah, it's
- 8:49Speaker 2: too avoidly, right.
- 8:50Speaker 1: But in this case, like we were, the more the merrier.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah, leaks all day.
- 8:55Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, uh that's yeah exactly.
- 8:59Speaker 2: It's kind of the face of logic, really does. But
- 9:02Speaker 2: we do have some information here this morning, a couple
- 9:05Speaker 2: of things that have already broken. And this does not
- 9:08Speaker 2: tampered with Tamperfest, but Tua Tongue of Iloa has been
- 9:12Speaker 2: released the Miami Dolphins so disfranchised with their franchise quarterback
- 9:19Speaker 2: that they are going to take a ninety nine million
- 9:22Speaker 2: dollar dead money hit against their salary cap just to
- 9:26Speaker 2: get rid of him. Part of that is the success
- 9:29Speaker 2: that Denver Broncos had in making that decision with Russell Wilson,
- 9:33Speaker 2: Sean Payton, and the Broncos showed the world that hey,
- 9:38Speaker 2: it's you. It's just better, it's more beneficial to the
- 9:42Speaker 2: franchise when you know it's not working to just take
- 9:45Speaker 2: the financial hit, try to find the next guy, and
- 9:50Speaker 2: in the interim, perhaps some sort of bridge quarterback to
- 9:54Speaker 2: get you where you need to go. But this is
- 9:57Speaker 2: this is something new in the National Football League, even
- 10:00Speaker 2: with a salary cap, even with an individual salary that
- 10:04Speaker 2: well exceeded fifty million dollars per year to a tongue
- 10:08Speaker 2: of Iloa, I think had some issues as a leader
- 10:11Speaker 2: and obviously had some issues with his health, and then
- 10:14Speaker 2: this year had major issues with production. The Miami Dolphins
- 10:19Speaker 2: just don't want him or in the building anymore. So
- 10:22Speaker 2: they are willing to eat one hundred million dollars not
- 10:26Speaker 2: just as an ownership group, but against their working salary
- 10:31Speaker 2: cap in order to get rid of him. Boy, you
- 10:34Speaker 2: have really done You've really burned some bridges. If they're
- 10:37Speaker 2: going to harm themselves that much in trying to compete
- 10:41Speaker 2: in the next couple of years.
- 10:42Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean I don't know for sure if
- 10:45Speaker 5: you can bank on or human really logically hope that
- 10:49Speaker 5: you're going to have success. I mean, if there was
- 10:51Speaker 5: a quarterback class coming out where you could you know,
- 10:54Speaker 5: probably get a guy that you felt could be your replacement,
- 10:58Speaker 5: but this year's quarterback class does seem all that strong
- 11:01Speaker 5: as far as uh, you know, the guys after Mendoza. Anyways,
- 11:04Speaker 5: there's a lot of question marks about those guys.
- 11:06Speaker 2: So they were even terrible at sucking because for a
- 11:09Speaker 2: while there it looked like the Dolphins were the worst
- 11:11Speaker 2: team in the National Football League. And you're like, all right,
- 11:13Speaker 2: well that year you get go get Fernando Mendoza, go
- 11:16Speaker 2: ahead and eat it. You know, you got two wins
- 11:18Speaker 2: on the air, and then they up and won like
- 11:20Speaker 2: four straight games that meant nothing to them in the
- 11:23Speaker 2: middle of the year, and it even ruined their pursuit
- 11:27Speaker 2: of sucking. Mm h yeah, well, I mean his job.
- 11:29Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just you have to have a lot of
- 11:32Speaker 5: things go right, or just kind of almost fall into
- 11:34Speaker 5: place where your previous drafts and then this draft coming up,
- 11:38Speaker 5: you need a whole bunch of guys to contribute that
- 11:40Speaker 5: are on you know, small rookie deals. Because sixty six
- 11:45Speaker 5: million dollars I think is what they're going to be
- 11:47Speaker 5: dinged with cap this year, and then they're the thirty
- 11:49Speaker 5: three next year. I mean, that's a lot of good
- 11:51Speaker 5: players that you could get. Instead, he's going to be
- 11:54Speaker 5: either on somebody else's team or or out of football.
- 11:57Speaker 5: I imagine somebody will give him an opportunity to come
- 11:59Speaker 5: in and play for minimum.
- 12:00Speaker 2: But well, you weren't going to have those players either way.
- 12:03Speaker 2: You were either paying him, yeah, or paying him not
- 12:06Speaker 2: to be on your roster.
- 12:07Speaker 5: Right, Well, yeah, you don't have anybody to show for
- 12:11Speaker 5: that money going out the windows. So it's a I mean,
- 12:14Speaker 5: I would not bet that they're going to have the
- 12:16Speaker 5: same type of success that the Broncos somehow found a way.
- 12:19Speaker 5: I think that, like I said, you end up getting
- 12:21Speaker 5: a quarterback that kind of fills that spot in bo
- 12:24Speaker 5: Nicks and the rest of their drafts were kind of
- 12:26Speaker 5: coming to fruition to where the rest of your roster
- 12:29Speaker 5: was still fairly solid considering you were not playing with
- 12:33Speaker 5: the same It's you know, with the salary cap league,
- 12:35Speaker 5: you got an even playing field. Everybody has the same
- 12:37Speaker 5: amount of money to spend. But when you all of
- 12:39Speaker 5: a sudden have a third of that or I guess what,
- 12:42Speaker 5: we're at three hundred million now, so it's a fifth
- 12:45Speaker 5: of that that you you just basically are not going
- 12:48Speaker 5: to be able to use for players.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Good luck, the good luck.
- 12:51Speaker 6: The good news is though, for your Broncos, they're no
- 12:53Speaker 6: longer the team that had to pay somebody the most.
- 12:56Speaker 1: It took the biggest deadrap head.
- 12:58Speaker 6: Yeah, right now the Dolphins have taking that title, so
- 13:00Speaker 6: they'll leave you guys alone.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Well, I mean the Bronx honestly, though, I mean, I mean, yes,
- 13:04Speaker 2: I love taking cheap shots at the Broncos just because
- 13:07Speaker 2: of Bucky. Yeah, not any I don't have anything, but frankly,
- 13:13Speaker 2: I mean they it's how excellent they were in the
- 13:16Speaker 2: transition of that is what's going. It's just another reason.
- 13:20Speaker 2: It's the whole Josh Rosen thing. Just because we made
- 13:24Speaker 2: a mistake by taking a turd with a top ten
- 13:27Speaker 2: pick in the draft doesn't mean that we're going to
- 13:30Speaker 2: maintain that mistake. I mean, you know, two wrongs don't
- 13:34Speaker 2: make a right. Yeah, So the Broncos have just kind
- 13:39Speaker 2: of shown everybody there is a path beyond the world
- 13:44Speaker 2: of signing a quarterback to a bad contract, and so
- 13:49Speaker 2: that's where the Miami Dolphins are. Maybe Jake Browning he
- 13:52Speaker 2: got released today by the Cincinnati Bengals. Don't know all
- 13:56Speaker 2: the details on that, but man, talk about us a
- 13:59Speaker 2: nice little stop quarterback. This is the kind of thing
- 14:01Speaker 2: that you do. You find that one guy, you give
- 14:03Speaker 2: them a chance. You probably tell them one year, you
- 14:06Speaker 2: got one year to prove yourself, maybe not even to us,
- 14:08Speaker 2: but to the rest of the league. But we'll take
- 14:11Speaker 2: you on one year. We're not gonna pay you that
- 14:13Speaker 2: much because we can't. And yet you will be given,
- 14:17Speaker 2: for the first time in your NFL career, a starting job,
- 14:21Speaker 2: and you can prove to the world that you are
- 14:24Speaker 2: one of the thirty two going forward, one of the
- 14:26Speaker 2: best thirty two in the world. So maybe those two
- 14:29Speaker 2: things can marry with one another. Hell, Jimmy Garoppolo has
- 14:33Speaker 2: been discussed in Arizona as possibly replacing Kyler Murray, and
- 14:37Speaker 2: they're going through the same exact thing in Arizona, that
- 14:40Speaker 2: the Dolphins are going through with Tua. Some other things though,
- 14:44Speaker 2: as we kind of set the frenzy for you here
- 14:46Speaker 2: today from a Sea Hawks perspective, all sorts of rumors
- 14:51Speaker 2: over the weekend. Best I can tell, these are the
- 14:53Speaker 2: very latest rumors that confront Sea Hawk free agency number one,
- 14:59Speaker 2: Rashichai to Las Vegas. That seems to be the predominant
- 15:03Speaker 2: rumor out there. And I don't know if that's people
- 15:06Speaker 2: hearing things or if that's just people putting two and
- 15:09Speaker 2: two together. Clint Kubiak's now the head coach of the Raiders.
- 15:13Speaker 2: They have cap space they haven't even more after trading
- 15:16Speaker 2: Max Crosby. You know, Kubiak's had Shahed in two different
- 15:22Speaker 2: spots in the last year plus. Would anybody be surprised
- 15:26Speaker 2: if he didn't try to lure him to Las Vegas.
- 15:29Speaker 2: So that seems to be the predominant rumor surrounding Rashid
- 15:33Speaker 2: Shaheed that he will be asking for too much money
- 15:36Speaker 2: to return to Seattle, and maybe the likely destination is
- 15:40Speaker 2: reuniting with Kubiak, this time in Vegas.
- 15:42Speaker 5: Well, when we were talking about it, I think that
- 15:45Speaker 5: was the way in which I framed my first question
- 15:48Speaker 5: to Greg about it was just thinking because of the
- 15:50Speaker 5: fact that Kubiak liked him so much, and then you know,
- 15:53Speaker 5: he obviously had something to do with bringing him here.
- 15:56Speaker 5: I'm sure he gave him the vote of confidence that yet, no,
- 15:58Speaker 5: this is a guy that can take the top off.
- 16:00Speaker 2: What he does in the.
- 16:01Speaker 5: Return game is important, and they bring him over here
- 16:04Speaker 5: and it works out one hundred percent.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Now, you know.
- 16:07Speaker 5: Basically was immediately kind of like, well, I know, I
- 16:09Speaker 5: think that's kind of going to be priority number one
- 16:11Speaker 5: for the Seahawks to bring him back because of how
- 16:14Speaker 5: influential he was. I mean that Hunt returning in that
- 16:17Speaker 5: Rams game, who knows how the sliding doors happen. If
- 16:20Speaker 5: he doesn't return that they probably don't win that game.
- 16:23Speaker 5: You maybe don't win the West and get the number
- 16:25Speaker 5: one seed, and who knows if you end up being
- 16:27Speaker 5: the Super Bowl champions. I obviously can't narrow it down
- 16:30Speaker 5: to one play. There's far too many things that happened,
- 16:32Speaker 5: but a very important player down the stretch for him,
- 16:35Speaker 5: and so I'm not surprised to hear rumors of that. Again,
- 16:39Speaker 5: I'm with you, I don't know if that's actual, real,
- 16:41Speaker 5: legitimate information or if it's just kind of well, it
- 16:44Speaker 5: makes sense that he would follow the guy that brought
- 16:46Speaker 5: him here and had him in New Orleans before. So
- 16:50Speaker 5: interesting to see, and yet I wouldn't be surprised one bit.
- 16:55Speaker 5: I mean, if you end up finding a relationship where
- 16:57Speaker 5: you have a guy that brings you to the forefront
- 17:00Speaker 5: and kind of gets the most out of you, that's
- 17:01Speaker 5: maybe where you'd want to go.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Ken Walker news over the weekend heavily heavily, heavily, heavily
- 17:07Speaker 2: linked to the Kansas City Chiefs. I mean, there were
- 17:10Speaker 2: some people going about as far as saying it's happening,
- 17:13Speaker 2: and yet it's kind of cooled. Now this morning, you're
- 17:17Speaker 2: hearing stuff with the Giants, We're hearing stuff with the
- 17:21Speaker 2: Washington commanders linked to ken Walker. We're just not hearing
- 17:26Speaker 2: a lot of stuff about how the Seahawks are going
- 17:29Speaker 2: to at the midnight hour save this relationship and give
- 17:32Speaker 2: him the money that he needs. Washington seems to be
- 17:35Speaker 2: linked to everyone this morning, and they do have a
- 17:38Speaker 2: lot of cap space that was ended up being a
- 17:41Speaker 2: really old team a year ago. Here they two years ago,
- 17:43Speaker 2: we thought, oh, Jaydeon Daniels, here they go there, here's
- 17:46Speaker 2: a fresh young face. They're getting ready to put together
- 17:49Speaker 2: a nice run. And then the year after, like, wait
- 17:51Speaker 2: a minute, they got an awful lot of thirty five
- 17:53Speaker 2: year olds on this roster and they crashed and burned.
- 17:56Speaker 2: So the commander's looking to kind of reset, and they
- 17:59Speaker 2: seem to be linked to everybody boy a MAF being
- 18:02Speaker 2: linked heavily to the New England Patriots that that could
- 18:06Speaker 2: be a destination for him. The Dallas Cowboys a little
- 18:09Speaker 2: bit as well, Reek Woolan. Of all teams, the San
- 18:12Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers have been linked to Reek Woolan.
- 18:16Speaker 2: And in terms of Kobe Bryant, most of the conversation
- 18:20Speaker 2: from over the weekend is that the Seahawks Mike McDonald
- 18:24Speaker 2: John Schneider want to keep Kobe Bryant, and they do
- 18:27Speaker 2: have until nine o'clock this morning before he hits the
- 18:30Speaker 2: free agent mark. And it doesn't mean that they have
- 18:32Speaker 2: to stop negotiating with him at nine o'clock, but at
- 18:35Speaker 2: nine o'clock obviously the tampering period gets underway, and so
- 18:40Speaker 2: other teams theoretically come after Kobe Bryant with offers. So
- 18:45Speaker 2: theoretically you should have until nine o'clock today to try
- 18:48Speaker 2: to work something out before he can be tampered with.
- 18:51Speaker 2: But we shall see. Sounds like that there is an interest,
- 18:56Speaker 2: great interest on Seattle's part of keeping Kobe Bryant. And
- 18:59Speaker 2: if you're looking for a name that maybe outside of
- 19:02Speaker 2: Seattle that the Seahawks are being linked to, there's a
- 19:06Speaker 2: little bit of heat around former first round cornerback out
- 19:10Speaker 2: of Northwestern veteran Greg Newsom. So if the Seahawks were
- 19:13Speaker 2: to lose Woolen and possibly job, that maybe they would
- 19:17Speaker 2: be in the market for an experienced veteran cornerback. Greg
- 19:21Speaker 2: Newsom got off to a pretty rough start to his
- 19:23Speaker 2: infl career and yet kind of like Sam Darnold has
- 19:27Speaker 2: come together a little bit here in his late twenties
- 19:31Speaker 2: and has given himself a market. He's coming off a
- 19:33Speaker 2: very good year, and that maybe the Seahawks might be
- 19:36Speaker 2: interested in him should they lose a couple cornerbacks. In
- 19:39Speaker 2: this process, we will be cooping you up to date
- 19:42Speaker 2: all morning long. That's just the Seahawks stuff. I got
- 19:45Speaker 2: stuff from across the National Football League to share with
- 19:47Speaker 2: you as well. Let's find out what's on tap for
- 19:50Speaker 2: today's showing. What's on TEP what's untep. Greg Bell will
- 19:56Speaker 2: be with us at seven oh five this morning. We'll
- 19:59Speaker 2: get the latest from OKS insider what he's hearing on
- 20:02Speaker 2: this first day of the tampering period, and should let
- 20:06Speaker 2: you know tomorrow we're going to summon Mike Sando to
- 20:10Speaker 2: our studios couple hours with our NFL insider. Kind of
- 20:14Speaker 2: feels like a handy guy to have around tomorrow. So
- 20:16Speaker 2: Mike Sando is going to be coming in studio with
- 20:19Speaker 2: us tomorrow and we'll get to react in real time
- 20:23Speaker 2: to things that happen during tomorrow's period of tampering, and
- 20:28Speaker 2: then of course we'll be able to recap with him
- 20:30Speaker 2: everything that goes down here today and tonight. But we
- 20:34Speaker 2: are prepared for the frenzy, and we have reinforcements coming
- 20:37Speaker 2: in in the form of Mike Sando, and of course
- 20:40Speaker 2: Hugh Millen's always on the bat signal as well in
- 20:43Speaker 2: case we do have a Seahawks signing and need our
- 20:47Speaker 2: QB one to analyze his tape for us. You could
- 20:50Speaker 2: hear from a cast of thousands during the course of
- 20:53Speaker 2: the next couple of shows right here on Chuck and Buck.
- 20:55Speaker 2: If you haven't heard, and I don't know how you
- 20:57Speaker 2: wouldn't have heard if you are a Seahawk fan. And
- 21:00Speaker 2: Max Crosby was traded over the weekend Friday night. As
- 21:03Speaker 2: a matter of fact, about a martini and a half deep,
- 21:06Speaker 2: I have to read the alert that Max Crosby is
- 21:09Speaker 2: a Baltimore Raven and not a Seattle Seahawk. It was
- 21:13Speaker 2: for two first round picks. That's something that we'll talk
- 21:15Speaker 2: about coming up here at the bottom of the hour
- 21:18Speaker 2: this morning Cracking. They beat the NHL trading deadline, and
- 21:22Speaker 2: apparently by the narrowest of margins. Apparently Brian McCann left
- 21:26Speaker 2: his glass slipper on the stoop outside the castle and
- 21:30Speaker 2: then right at the midnight hour it fit his gnarled
- 21:33Speaker 2: hockey foot and so he is the newest member of
- 21:37Speaker 2: the Krack and we'll talk about him a little bit
- 21:39Speaker 2: today coming up on the show. The Sounders did win
- 21:42Speaker 2: over the weekend against Saint Louis, won to nothing the
- 21:44Speaker 2: final score there. Selection Sunday is in six days in
- 21:48Speaker 2: college basketball, so the Friends he meets the Madness this week.
- 21:52Speaker 2: The Big Ten Tournament also is going to take place
- 21:54Speaker 2: this week. It starts on Tuesday. We do know that
- 21:57Speaker 2: UUB will play Wednesday, at eleventh thirty against USC, a
- 22:01Speaker 2: familiar foe there. So that's how their Big ten tournament
- 22:05Speaker 2: will begin. Meanwhile, the WCC has advanced enough that finally
- 22:09Speaker 2: the Zags will be in action tonight, playing their first
- 22:12Speaker 2: game of the WCC tournament tonight at six o'clock versus
- 22:15Speaker 2: Oregon State, and the WBC continues to roll on. I
- 22:19Speaker 2: cannot wait until this pool play round is over with. Frankly,
- 22:24Speaker 2: I'm thinking we should change the way that this thing
- 22:27Speaker 2: is scheduled. We'll talk about that a little bit later
- 22:30Speaker 2: on in the show as well. But tonight US versus Mexico,
- 22:33Speaker 2: cal Rawley versus Randy or Rose Arena and Andres Munno's
- 22:37Speaker 2: first pitch is at five o'clock. But coming up next,
- 22:41Speaker 2: we talked about it so much last week that we
- 22:44Speaker 2: do now have to discuss the results of Max Crosby
- 22:47Speaker 2: not coming to Seattle Sports Radio ninety three point three
- 22:51Speaker 2: e KHRFM. Coach Bucky is here, and yes, we have
- 22:55Speaker 2: a lot of things to discuss with the frenzy getting
- 22:58Speaker 2: here with the NFL free agency, but it doesn't mean
- 23:01Speaker 2: we're not gonna check in with a coach Bucky. So
- 23:04Speaker 2: the man that has coached every sport at every level,
- 23:07Speaker 2: has joined us here again in studio. So today's free
- 23:11Speaker 2: agency frenzy. I realize Coach Bucky that you're not going
- 23:15Speaker 2: to be able to tell what John Schneider is gonna
- 23:19Speaker 2: do until he does it. I mean, you're here, coach.
- 23:21Speaker 2: You're not some insider, right, You're not some Greg Bell
- 23:23Speaker 2: want to be no so, but you can tell us
- 23:27Speaker 2: which of the six free agents. If it were you,
- 23:30Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let reach free agency. You got ken Walker,
- 23:34Speaker 2: you got rashich Aid, you got Rik wollen, Boye, Mafe,
- 23:37Speaker 2: Josh Job, and Kobe Bryant. If Coach Bucky was coaching
- 23:41Speaker 2: this team, he's not gonna let one of these guys
- 23:44Speaker 2: hit free agency at all. He's signing him before nine
- 23:46Speaker 2: am today.
- 23:47Speaker 5: Oh, I would probably say Kobe Bryant. I think Kobe
- 23:51Speaker 5: Bryant is the one that feels and I don't know why.
- 23:56Speaker 5: I don't know why I feel less about Ken Walker.
- 23:59Speaker 5: I mean I think probably because a contract year for him,
- 24:02Speaker 5: and until the injury, it was almost an even time share.
- 24:07Speaker 5: And then with Zach Scharboney and then and then there
- 24:11Speaker 5: was a bunch of times obviously in Key moments that
- 24:13Speaker 5: they went to Zach Charboney. So it's in a way
- 24:16Speaker 5: it's like Ken Walker. I'll just say, it doesn't feel
- 24:18Speaker 5: necessarily like he's Mike McDonald's guy, So in essence, maybe
- 24:23Speaker 5: not John Schneider's guy, right, because I do think those
- 24:26Speaker 5: two are walking in lockstep at this point, whereas Kobe
- 24:29Speaker 5: Bryant to me, does feel like a Mike McDonald type
- 24:33Speaker 5: of guy, Like he feels like, you know, when Mike
- 24:35Speaker 5: McDonald came in here and made those adjustments to the
- 24:37Speaker 5: the linebackers right off the bat, there was never a
- 24:42Speaker 5: time where I think he was thinking that about Kobe
- 24:44Speaker 5: Bryant or Julian Love. I think feel like he felt
- 24:46Speaker 5: like the back ends locked in. Even when we go
- 24:49Speaker 5: out and we spend a draft pick on nick Ki
- 24:51Speaker 5: mon Warrey, it wasn't to replace one of those guys.
- 24:53Speaker 5: It was to add the X factor that what he
- 24:55Speaker 5: brings to the table. So to me, it's on the
- 24:58Speaker 5: defensive side is kind of where my mind goes. And
- 25:00Speaker 5: yet when you think about boy Mafi or Tyreek Woolan,
- 25:04Speaker 5: to me, those two guys, I could see him them saying, hey,
- 25:07Speaker 5: thanks for your time, appreciate what you did. I can
- 25:10Speaker 5: see plenty of flaws that I could upgrade with someone else,
- 25:13Speaker 5: whereas Kobe Bryant, to me, feels like one that's like
- 25:15Speaker 5: I really like all that he brings to the table.
- 25:17Speaker 2: All right, next up. Look, I get it, we're not
- 25:21Speaker 2: supposed to put any stock in spring training numbers. They've
- 25:25Speaker 2: just led us astray year after year. We've been burned
- 25:28Speaker 2: so many times by believing that somebody's spring training numbers
- 25:32Speaker 2: suggest that they are going to be better than maybe
- 25:35Speaker 2: they actually are. But when do we start paying attention
- 25:38Speaker 2: to what Brennan Davis is doing? Hitting a home run
- 25:42Speaker 2: nearly every time he plays, and over the weekend he
- 25:45Speaker 2: at won four hundred and sixty four feet. Well, you're
- 25:48Speaker 2: paying attention to it. I don't think that.
- 25:50Speaker 5: I don't think he's in the mix probably at this
- 25:53Speaker 5: point in time, simply because you do have to discount
- 25:57Speaker 5: I mean that one that was off the miss the
- 25:59Speaker 5: young feet from miserrausis, yeah, that we hit it five
- 26:02Speaker 5: miles yesterday or day before whatever that was.
- 26:06Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's not like you can't do it.
- 26:07Speaker 5: But some of the hits that he's been having have
- 26:10Speaker 5: been against guys that aren't going to be on big
- 26:11Speaker 5: league rosters, and so you got to discount some of it.
- 26:14Speaker 5: I mean the Arizona air, the ball does jump there
- 26:17Speaker 5: would it would to me. It's more of a well,
- 26:19Speaker 5: this guy's open in my eyes that he might be
- 26:22Speaker 5: a piece this season. Now, maybe not in spring training,
- 26:25Speaker 5: because I'm not going to change my view. You're not
- 26:29Speaker 5: going to have some non roster invite come to spring
- 26:32Speaker 5: training and all of a sudden eject somebody that you
- 26:35Speaker 5: had plans all off season. You know, twenty at bats.
- 26:38Speaker 5: He's going to say, well, sorry, Luke Rayley, you're out
- 26:41Speaker 5: of here. I'm sorry, Victor Roebliss or Cans, whoever you
- 26:44Speaker 5: had thought that was penciled into that spot. Twenty at
- 26:47Speaker 5: bats is not going to change that, but it can
- 26:49Speaker 5: change your perception of what you think he might be for.
- 26:52Speaker 2: The team moving forward.
- 26:53Speaker 5: And moving forward could be a month in the season,
- 26:55Speaker 5: or at the trade deadline or in September.
- 26:59Speaker 2: Coach Bucket was all so part of the WWE from
- 27:02Speaker 2: nineteen eighty I was to nineteen ninety four and once
- 27:06Speaker 2: trained Jake Lamatta to championship stats. I said in boxing,
- 27:10Speaker 2: so I would ask you would the WWE interfere with
- 27:13Speaker 2: Logan Paul fighting NFL players like he claims that they are.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Now he's taken back his million dollar offer. A lot
- 27:21Speaker 2: of people wanted to fight him because he says his
- 27:24Speaker 2: boss won't let him.
- 27:26Speaker 5: I saw a I did see a phone call with
- 27:30Speaker 5: someone on speakerphone him basically pretending or it was somebody
- 27:35Speaker 5: from w like, we can't we just can't take a risk, and.
- 27:37Speaker 2: He sounds a lot like Jake Paul.
- 27:38Speaker 5: Yeah phone right, Yeah, so it could be any one
- 27:41Speaker 5: of his friends. I had call me, act like you're
- 27:43Speaker 5: somebody important, tell me I can't do.
- 27:45Speaker 2: It, and I'll go, what do you talk about? There's
- 27:46Speaker 2: no risk. I don't.
- 27:49Speaker 5: I have a hard time seeing the WWE do anything
- 27:53Speaker 5: that is to protect their assets. I mean, these guys
- 27:56Speaker 5: jump off of, you know, twenty foot things on the tables.
- 28:00Speaker 5: They're not worried about the health of these guys. And
- 28:04Speaker 5: if you were to have one of your superstars promote
- 28:08Speaker 5: fighting some NFL guy, they're all about the promotion. They're
- 28:12Speaker 5: all about it. I don't think that there's a chance
- 28:15Speaker 5: in hell that the WW is like, no, you mean
- 28:18Speaker 5: too much to us. Yeah, they got them written into
- 28:20Speaker 5: some scripts, but they could rewrite that script, especially if
- 28:23Speaker 5: all of a sudden, he's he's going to go out
- 28:25Speaker 5: there and just bring a whole bunch of eyeballs, which
- 28:27Speaker 5: I don't know how many eyeballs it's going to bring.
- 28:29Speaker 5: Not as many as WWE brings, but it brings some
- 28:32Speaker 5: extra ones.
- 28:32Speaker 6: Yeah, No, And I was gonna say, also, what are
- 28:36Speaker 6: the odds that you would be recording the phone call
- 28:38Speaker 6: that you didn't know was coming?
- 28:40Speaker 2: He might record everything in the line, which, Oh, don't
- 28:43Speaker 2: get me, don't get me wrong, I think he's totally lying.
- 28:45Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he wrote a check that his ass
- 28:48Speaker 2: won't cast. That's what I think happened. All Right, we'll
- 28:50Speaker 2: talk more about it later on in the show, but
- 28:52Speaker 2: we got to get the headlines next. Plus Greg Bell
- 28:55Speaker 2: on this free agency Frenzy Monday, Get your tamp on
- 28:58Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three JRFM. Soto first pitch,
- 29:04Speaker 2: swinging high fly ball eight plick center field. The Dominican
- 29:09Speaker 2: Republic wins it on a seventh inning walk off home
- 29:14Speaker 2: run from one Soto.
- 29:17Speaker 7: And a twelve one.
- 29:19Speaker 2: Run rule with okay, we've got the US Mexico midle
- 29:25Speaker 2: Oh there it goes NTAs walk off BA game Nexic.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Come let the party begin. Hey, good morning, seven o'clock
- 29:47Speaker 2: hour here on day one of the tampering period of
- 29:51Speaker 2: the National Football League free agency. Frenzy has really begun.
- 29:56Speaker 2: No free agents have signed. They can't do that, or
- 29:59Speaker 2: at least they can't announce until nine o'clock this morning.
- 30:02Speaker 2: But we do have some moves. We'll get to those
- 30:05Speaker 2: with Greg Bell coming up here at seven o five,
- 30:08Speaker 2: our Seahawks insider. But first, your headline's brought to you
- 30:11Speaker 2: by Frostbrewed Corpse Light. Choose Chill, WBC. Well, underway, I
- 30:16Speaker 2: do want to talk about this today. I got some
- 30:18Speaker 2: adjustments I need to make to this thing. Oh yeah, yeah,
- 30:22Speaker 2: uh but WBC tonight US versus Mexico, Cal Raley versus
- 30:27Speaker 2: Andres Munos and Randia Rose Arena. And to quote our
- 30:31Speaker 2: friend Andre's Munos, if he gets to face Cal Raleigh tonight,
- 30:36Speaker 2: maybe Cal will forget about his stuff.
- 30:38Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, probably probably not, Mooney, just so you know
- 30:44Speaker 8: he has bullpens. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, that's probably not
- 30:49Speaker 8: gonna matter.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Cal could forget what pitches he throws. I guess there's
- 30:53Speaker 2: a chance, yeah, because Cal doesn't prepare a long Hey, friend,
- 30:57Speaker 2: what is it you throw again? Curveball? Right, knuckleball? Oh?
- 31:01Speaker 5: No, you throw cheese and a nasty slider. That's right,
- 31:04Speaker 5: I remembered you.
- 31:07Speaker 1: If only I'm prepared myself more to face Moon.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Yes, I don't want those two to face each other
- 31:11Speaker 2: at all. I don't. I don't want to see it.
- 31:13Speaker 1: I want either of them to be sad.
- 31:14Speaker 2: I don't want to see the bat. So WBC tonight,
- 31:17Speaker 2: what else we got going on? Sounders one over Saint
- 31:19Speaker 2: Louis over the weekend, one to nothing, So they're off
- 31:21Speaker 2: to a two and one start. Selection Sunday is in
- 31:24Speaker 2: six days. Yes, the frenzy meets the madness this week.
- 31:27Speaker 2: We are that close to the NCAA tournament. Big ten
- 31:30Speaker 2: tournament gets started on Tuesday. The UW will play on Wednesday.
- 31:36Speaker 2: I was a little confused by that. Yeah, the tournament
- 31:38Speaker 2: starts on Tuesday. UDUB plays Wednesday at eleven thirty against
- 31:42Speaker 2: USC Gonzag is in action tonight against Oregon State, finally
- 31:47Speaker 2: playing their first WCC tournament game, even though that tournament's
- 31:51Speaker 2: about a week old. The Zags will be taking on
- 31:54Speaker 2: the Beavers tonight at six o'clock. Max Crosby was traded
- 31:57Speaker 2: over the weekend. If you didn't hear, he goes to
- 31:59Speaker 2: the ball More Ravens in exchange for two first round picks.
- 32:02Speaker 2: The Ravens do own the fourteenth overall pick in the draft,
- 32:06Speaker 2: and this morning already a lot of activity to a
- 32:09Speaker 2: tongue of Iloa has officially been released by the Miami Dolphins.
- 32:13Speaker 2: They're gonna eat one hundred million dollars in dead cap
- 32:16Speaker 2: just to get him out of the building. The Dolphins
- 32:20Speaker 2: also traded away veteran Minka Fitzpatrick to the Los Angeles
- 32:23Speaker 2: Chargers in exchange for a seventh round pick, and then,
- 32:26Speaker 2: most recently, the Green Bay Packers have sent Rashaan Gary,
- 32:31Speaker 2: a very good player, may be overpriced, to the Dallas
- 32:35Speaker 2: Cowboys in exchange for a fourth round selection in the
- 32:39Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven NFL Draft. So Rashan Gary rejoining Kenny Clark,
- 32:45Speaker 2: his old Packer teammate in Dallas. And so it's underway.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Here we go, just a couple hours short of the
- 32:52Speaker 2: tampering period getting underway, and yet all sorts of information
- 32:57Speaker 2: to try to glean from our Seahawks insider Greg Bell.
- 33:00Speaker 3: Let's do it with a Bell tolls, it must be
- 33:04Speaker 3: seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell.
- 33:08Speaker 3: Brought to you by Copola Diamond Collection Prosecco Chris Sparkly
- 33:12Speaker 3: with bright fruit flavors to make every toast shine Game
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- 33:20Speaker 3: Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Bud.
- 33:23Speaker 2: All Right, are you ready for this? I mean, did
- 33:26Speaker 2: you get good sleep over the weekend? Did you make
- 33:28Speaker 2: sure you hydrated? Greg? Did you carve up last night
- 33:32Speaker 2: to give you all sorts of artificial sugar injury and
- 33:35Speaker 2: energy this morning? What'd you do? Are you ready?
- 33:39Speaker 4: I told Ashley, It's just another Monday for me. I'm
- 33:42Speaker 4: finally home for a weekend. So yeah, here we go
- 33:48Speaker 4: a lot of misinformation, a lot of at this point.
- 33:51Speaker 4: Some of it is just let's just see what happens, right,
- 33:54Speaker 4: instead of just trying to chase every rumor that goes
- 33:57Speaker 4: back and forth. But there was one concrete that happened
- 34:00Speaker 4: this weekend that will affect the Seahawks down the road
- 34:02Speaker 4: for years, and that was the new deal at Cornerback
- 34:08Speaker 4: and Trent McDuffie getting traded to the Rams and now
- 34:11Speaker 4: becoming the highest paid corner at four years, one hundred
- 34:13Speaker 4: and twenty four million dollars. Because you can bet that's
- 34:16Speaker 4: where Devin Witherspoon's agents are going to start. They want
- 34:20Speaker 4: to be at the top of the cornerback market, and
- 34:22Speaker 4: now that market is thirty one million dollars a year.
- 34:26Speaker 4: These deals that get done when you see these numbers,
- 34:27Speaker 4: so why is it thirty one million dollars on average
- 34:30Speaker 4: a year agents comp other deals and Sauce Gardner was
- 34:34Speaker 4: the number one cornerback at thirty point five million dollars
- 34:38Speaker 4: a year and that's why it became thirty one million
- 34:41Speaker 4: a year on average. One hundred million guaranteed is the
- 34:44Speaker 4: new bar and the Seahawks John Schneider now know where
- 34:48Speaker 4: Devin Witherspoon's going to be coming from in the summer.
- 34:51Speaker 4: That is the background to a lot of what's going
- 34:53Speaker 4: to happen this week. Because while not all that money
- 34:57Speaker 4: would be charged in year one, and Witherspoon would be
- 35:00Speaker 4: entering the final year of his rookie deal here this year,
- 35:04Speaker 4: the Seahawks have to plan that way for both him
- 35:07Speaker 4: and for Smith and jig But Jackson, Smith and Jigwa's
- 35:09Speaker 4: deal in the same situation will get extended. So when
- 35:13Speaker 4: you see the number of sixty million dollars in cap
- 35:15Speaker 4: space that the Seahawks have, that's not how John Schneider
- 35:18Speaker 4: sees it. He sees Smith and Jigwis Costs. That's a
- 35:23Speaker 4: lump that's gonna go here. Here's Witherspoon that'll go here.
- 35:26Speaker 4: Here's the slush fun we're gonna keep so we can
- 35:29Speaker 4: make Leonard Williams Rashi Shiheed type trade in the middle
- 35:33Speaker 4: of the season. That's gonna go here, And all of
- 35:36Speaker 4: a sudden they don't have top ten cap space in
- 35:38Speaker 4: the league anymore. That's just the context that the Seahawks
- 35:41Speaker 4: are thinking when this week begins.
- 35:44Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, coming into free agency as we were
- 35:47Speaker 5: leading up to the tampering period.
- 35:49Speaker 2: I mean, you think about Ken Walker.
- 35:51Speaker 5: We spend a lot of time with him, Rashid Jaheed
- 35:53Speaker 5: and all these guys that are free agents, and any
- 35:56Speaker 5: one of them, you kind of don't feel any feeling
- 35:59Speaker 5: of desperation if they end up leaving. Is there anything
- 36:04Speaker 5: inside the building that if all of them are gone,
- 36:07Speaker 5: that you're like, well, that's that's a significant piece if
- 36:10Speaker 5: you add them all together.
- 36:13Speaker 4: It is. But of course they look at it individually
- 36:16Speaker 4: at how they would backfill those losses, running back being
- 36:20Speaker 4: the most vexing one. If they don't have both Kenneth
- 36:24Speaker 4: Walker hence actually ARMAONNAD to begin next season, that's an issue,
- 36:29Speaker 4: but it would surprise me if all six of those
- 36:33Speaker 4: top six aren't back. And I've been talking about Kobe
- 36:35Speaker 4: Bryant and it looks like his market is somewhat set
- 36:40Speaker 4: at safety Cam Curll re signing with the Rams reportedly
- 36:44Speaker 4: for three years thirty six million dollars. I'm not saying
- 36:47Speaker 4: that Kobe Bryant's going to get twelve million a year,
- 36:50Speaker 4: but that is now the market and how much below
- 36:52Speaker 4: that the Seahawks would be willing to offer, and that
- 36:55Speaker 4: Bryant would be willing to keep for what it's worth.
- 36:57Speaker 4: For people who love Instagram, Kobe Bryant last night put
- 37:01Speaker 4: a picture of himself and side by side a picture
- 37:04Speaker 4: of John Schneider pointing into the camera with no context
- 37:08Speaker 4: other than those two pictures. Read that, Jamail, I think
- 37:10Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant is a strong candidate to be back, and
- 37:14Speaker 4: I know how much Mike McDonald loves him and thinks
- 37:18Speaker 4: he is perfectly fitting for their defense. So I don't
- 37:23Speaker 4: think they're going to go oh for six in those
- 37:24Speaker 4: top six.
- 37:25Speaker 2: Bucky greg bellis with us our Seahawks inside of joining
- 37:28Speaker 2: us here on Tampa Fest twenty twenty six as we
- 37:32Speaker 2: get the latest information that we can possibly grab from
- 37:36Speaker 2: our Seahawks insider before the frenzy gets underway. All right,
- 37:40Speaker 2: So Max Crosby didn't end up a Seahawk. How invested
- 37:45Speaker 2: were they in trying to get him?
- 37:48Speaker 4: Well, we talked about this all last week. They didn't
- 37:51Speaker 4: have the weapons to get into that derby. They didn't
- 37:54Speaker 4: have the draft capital. And if the graders, I'm not
- 37:58Speaker 4: going to say if they were asking for two first
- 37:59Speaker 4: round if they were, because that's what they got from Baltimore.
- 38:02Speaker 4: The Seahawks didn't have two first round picks, and even
- 38:05Speaker 4: the one first round pick they had is at the
- 38:07Speaker 4: bottom of the first round. Why would the Raiders trade
- 38:10Speaker 4: with the team that has the very last pick of
- 38:12Speaker 4: the first round. That's not a lot of value to them.
- 38:15Speaker 4: They could trade with any other team in the league
- 38:17Speaker 4: and have a higher first round pick than with Seattle,
- 38:19Speaker 4: And the Seahawks only had four picks overall in this draft.
- 38:23Speaker 4: They weren't going to mortgage a future first round pick
- 38:26Speaker 4: on top of their only first round pick this year,
- 38:27Speaker 4: which is at the bottom of the round. Anyway, all
- 38:29Speaker 4: that to say would have taken a starter or two
- 38:32Speaker 4: for the Seahawks to enter that derby and be a
- 38:35Speaker 4: competitor for it. So I never really, I stated at
- 38:39Speaker 4: the time, I never saw the Seahawks as a viable
- 38:41Speaker 4: option for that because it just they don't have the
- 38:45Speaker 4: draft capital and first round picks that the Raiders wanted.
- 38:49Speaker 5: Okay, So if then it's looking like, and I'm with
- 38:52Speaker 5: you on the idea of you know, Devin Witherspoon, Jackson
- 38:55Speaker 5: Smith and jig but that's going to take a giant chunk.
- 38:57Speaker 5: Do you do you forecast any individual position? I mean
- 39:02Speaker 5: that they are going to go out there and spend
- 39:04Speaker 5: any of that excess stuff after those couple big re
- 39:06Speaker 5: signings to kind of bolster this thing, because yeah, you're
- 39:11Speaker 5: the Super Bowl champs and you're going to lose some
- 39:12Speaker 5: people to free agency because of the price going up.
- 39:15Speaker 5: But there's also I mean, everybody else is trying to
- 39:17Speaker 5: improve as well. You don't want to just try to
- 39:20Speaker 5: hold serve. I wouldn't imagine is there any position in
- 39:22Speaker 5: particular that you'd expect them to spend some of those
- 39:24Speaker 5: extra ducts.
- 39:25Speaker 4: On offensive defensive line depth, defensive line depth, in particular
- 39:31Speaker 4: veteran defensive linemen. They will probably sign a running back.
- 39:35Speaker 4: But all these signings I'm projecting that you're asking me
- 39:38Speaker 4: about will come into second and third waves. I don't
- 39:41Speaker 4: expect them to be in the next few days. And
- 39:44Speaker 4: we've talked about this. The one time in the last
- 39:47Speaker 4: decade that John Schneider has splashed in the first day
- 39:51Speaker 4: of free agency was Draymond Jones, and that was an
- 39:53Speaker 4: abject failure. Fifty one million dollars down the drain. He's
- 39:57Speaker 4: not going to do that again. He doesn't have to
- 39:59Speaker 4: do that again. They're not reloading having to go buy
- 40:02Speaker 4: players because they stink. They're the Super Bowl champions, have
- 40:05Speaker 4: just won the Super Bowl four weeks ago. They're pretty good,
- 40:08Speaker 4: so they don't need to go jump in just because
- 40:12Speaker 4: they have some money to spend, and they won't. That's
- 40:15Speaker 4: not how Schneyder does it. You'll see it. I said
- 40:18Speaker 4: last week. The teams that spend all the money today, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
- 40:25Speaker 4: just step back and look at what those teams did
- 40:27Speaker 4: in the last couple of years. What were their records?
- 40:29Speaker 4: How close were they to the super Bowl? They were
- 40:32Speaker 4: probably gonna be as close as you and I are
- 40:33Speaker 4: to win the super Bowl.
- 40:34Speaker 2: Well, the Patriots got to the super Bowl last year.
- 40:37Speaker 2: They were the biggest spenders last offseason. I tend to
- 40:39Speaker 2: agree with you. I think that that is the general rule.
- 40:42Speaker 2: But there are exceptions, and the Patriots are a glaring one.
- 40:47Speaker 4: Okay, there are exceptions. That's not how m John Schneider
- 40:50Speaker 4: does it.
- 40:50Speaker 2: I agree, and I think, yeah, exactly.
- 40:54Speaker 4: And this is the way. So this time of year,
- 40:58Speaker 4: everyone's frenzied about in the NFL creates this and they
- 41:01Speaker 4: want everyone to be fired them. They want us to
- 41:03Speaker 4: be talking about it at seven in the morning on
- 41:04Speaker 4: a Tuesday in March. From Monday at March. This is
- 41:07Speaker 4: the way it's manufactured in the off season. By and large,
- 41:11Speaker 4: the Seahawks don't play this way and they haven't built
- 41:13Speaker 4: their rosters this way. So it happens every year. And
- 41:17Speaker 4: I'm going to be on your show this week talking
- 41:18Speaker 4: to why they signed this guy. They could have had
- 41:21Speaker 4: him for that money, and they could have, but they
- 41:23Speaker 4: didn't forecast that because that's not how they've budgeted their plan.
- 41:27Speaker 4: Their budget of their plan is going to be the
- 41:29Speaker 4: second and third wave of free agency. There are a
- 41:31Speaker 4: few draft picks they have, resigning some of their own guys,
- 41:35Speaker 4: maybe it won't be all six of them, and then
- 41:37Speaker 4: saving money to make the deals that we talked about,
- 41:40Speaker 4: plus make a splash deal in the middle of the
- 41:42Speaker 4: season when they're close to competing, and that doesn't play
- 41:45Speaker 4: in March. So my point is the Seahawks are not
- 41:49Speaker 4: usually March players, and we're in March. So I get
- 41:54Speaker 4: the Yanks, the team that fans see that they had
- 41:56Speaker 4: this much money to spend its top ten cap space.
- 41:59Speaker 4: It's not that easy, and that's just not how Snyder
- 42:02Speaker 4: does it. And I guess said sixteen seventeen offseasons, his
- 42:06Speaker 4: track record has spoken for itself and he's won two
- 42:09Speaker 4: Super Bowls.
- 42:09Speaker 5: Do it this way, I would agree, Greg, But I mean,
- 42:12Speaker 5: I'm wondering if just on the other side of the coin,
- 42:14Speaker 5: there's a good conversation to be had, like if you
- 42:17Speaker 5: were sitting down having a beverage with John Schneider of Okay,
- 42:21Speaker 5: you don't one beautiful thing about winning the Super Bowl
- 42:23Speaker 5: is you don't have a lot of holes to film.
- 42:25Speaker 5: You You came out as the best team in the NFL.
- 42:27Speaker 5: Now you have some people leaving through free agency. Everybody's
- 42:30Speaker 5: getting a year older. The idea of you can do
- 42:34Speaker 5: it through the second wave or third wave of free agency,
- 42:37Speaker 5: or you could do a big move and then sprinkle
- 42:41Speaker 5: in some stuff later on in free agency. I mean,
- 42:44Speaker 5: Trey Henderson to me, the idea of when we were
- 42:46Speaker 5: talking about Max Crosby, the idea of, well, you take
- 42:48Speaker 5: something that was a strength, and that is the defense
- 42:51Speaker 5: in general, but you take and you add an elite
- 42:54Speaker 5: pass rusher to the outside, all of a sudden, it
- 42:56Speaker 5: makes it a feared defense and absolutely a defensive piece.
- 43:00Speaker 2: We're going to be terrified of it. I mean, is
- 43:01Speaker 2: there any relevance to that?
- 43:03Speaker 5: I mean, I agree that that's the way John Schneider
- 43:06Speaker 5: usually plays, and he's like, no, I'm not going to
- 43:08Speaker 5: go get in that because it didn't work out last
- 43:10Speaker 5: time I did it, and I can throw more spaghetti
- 43:14Speaker 5: at the wall and more stuff's going to end up sticking.
- 43:16Speaker 5: But is there any argument to the idea of maybe
- 43:19Speaker 5: going out there and making some sort of splashy move.
- 43:21Speaker 5: Could you see how that could possibly be a night
- 43:24Speaker 5: avenue that they might be interested in.
- 43:26Speaker 4: Well again, I think if you said that had a beverage,
- 43:31Speaker 4: as you say with John Schneyder, he'd say can.
- 43:32Speaker 2: You believe.
- 43:35Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think he would say, can you
- 43:38Speaker 4: believe so and so got this much money? We're never
- 43:41Speaker 4: going to pay that. Can you believe that Max Crosby
- 43:44Speaker 4: got two first round picks from the Ravens? We weren't
- 43:45Speaker 4: going to pay that. That's what the conversation is in
- 43:49Speaker 4: the building. They're going, I can't believe that the market
- 43:52Speaker 4: has gone to this. And every year and he admits this.
- 43:57Speaker 4: Every year there's a guy or to that they think
- 44:00Speaker 4: we're gonna get, say twelve minute a year, who gets
- 44:03Speaker 4: eighteen and they just all the building and go alarka
- 44:07Speaker 4: do that. They don't make a big splash move just
- 44:11Speaker 4: to make a slash move, just because they want to
- 44:14Speaker 4: be able to say they were involved early. The Draymond
- 44:16Speaker 4: Jones deal is because they were really berefted dead rusher,
- 44:20Speaker 4: and then since then they drafted Derek Colin boy Mothy
- 44:22Speaker 4: and they fixed that for a lot cheaper. Again, younger
- 44:26Speaker 4: cheaper is the way buy and large, as Chuck said,
- 44:29Speaker 4: they are exceptions, but younger cheaper is how the name
- 44:33Speaker 4: of the game to win in the NFL, this is
- 44:35Speaker 4: the wrong time of year for younger and cheaper. This
- 44:37Speaker 4: week is the opposite of younger and cheaper. It's older
- 44:40Speaker 4: and expensive, and the Seahawks buying large to stay out
- 44:43Speaker 4: of that. Now. Is there an argument to be made
- 44:46Speaker 4: this year that they should be splashing. I'd say this
- 44:48Speaker 4: is the one year they absolutely should not. They just
- 44:50Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl four weeks ago. They're gonna they
- 44:54Speaker 4: are really gonna not want to overpay just because they
- 44:56Speaker 4: won a super Bowl. They are not gonna pay a
- 44:58Speaker 4: premium even on their own free aid, simply because the
- 45:01Speaker 4: rest of the league values a Seahawks player more than
- 45:03Speaker 4: he did a month ago. That's really what's going on
- 45:06Speaker 4: with Kenneth Walker and Rashid Shaheed. If they don't win
- 45:09Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, nobody's talking about eighteen moon a year
- 45:12Speaker 4: for Rashid Shaheed. If Kenneth Walker wasn't a Super Bowl MVT,
- 45:17Speaker 4: no one's talking about him making fourteen million a year
- 45:20Speaker 4: and he probably can come back to the Seahawks had
- 45:22Speaker 4: a much stronger chance of him at happening. And Schnyder
- 45:26Speaker 4: doesn't want to get into that He's like, fine, if
- 45:28Speaker 4: that's what the artificial inflation of the market's going to
- 45:30Speaker 4: be when he ain't playing, And that takes some fiscal responsibility,
- 45:35Speaker 4: and that takes some sticking to your guns, But it
- 45:38Speaker 4: also takes being in the same job for sixteen years.
- 45:41Speaker 4: He's rare in the league. There aren't a lot of
- 45:45Speaker 4: maybe none now I can't think. Maybe Mickey Loomis with
- 45:48Speaker 4: the Saints has been in the job as long as
- 45:50Speaker 4: Schneider has, and so he's got a lot of cachet
- 45:54Speaker 4: built up inside his organization of doing what he's doing.
- 45:58Speaker 4: If you're a GM who just got there, maybe you
- 46:01Speaker 4: make the splash moves when you don't have to because
- 46:03Speaker 4: you feel like you have to do this or have
- 46:05Speaker 4: to do that. You don't have a track record. He does,
- 46:08Speaker 4: and he's committed to sticking to it.
- 46:11Speaker 2: In our last minute here, Greg Gino Smith, when they
- 46:15Speaker 2: made the decision to trade him last year and to
- 46:19Speaker 2: go with Sam Darnold mean no, I mean yeah, did
- 46:23Speaker 2: they ever ever ever think that it would end up
- 46:27Speaker 2: being this big of a victory for them?
- 46:31Speaker 4: This reminds me of the Russell Wilson trade because they
- 46:33Speaker 4: didn't expect this to be this bigger deal for they
- 46:36Speaker 4: didn't think the Broncos would be giving him a top
- 46:38Speaker 4: five pick that became Devin Witherspoon. Let's not forget Devin
- 46:41Speaker 4: Witherspoon is a Seahawk and three time Pro bowler because
- 46:45Speaker 4: of the Russell Wilson trade. That No, no, no, no,
- 46:49Speaker 4: they did not. They did not think that the Raiders
- 46:52Speaker 4: would swallow fifty nine million dollars and lose thirteen games
- 46:56Speaker 4: and Gino Smith would throw seventeen interceptions and Sam Donald
- 47:00Speaker 4: lead him to the Super Bowl. No, that did not.
- 47:04Speaker 4: But man, did they do? They look smart for that deal, now,
- 47:07Speaker 4: don't they?
- 47:07Speaker 2: Oh my god?
- 47:08Speaker 4: And yeah, it's like, well, of course we did that.
- 47:12Speaker 4: But yeah, that that has worked out. That's even worked
- 47:17Speaker 4: out better than the Russell Wilson trade because they won
- 47:19Speaker 4: the Super Bowl with it. But yeah, now you're talking
- 47:22Speaker 4: about Geno Smith taking some perhaps veteran minimum deal, which,
- 47:26Speaker 4: by the way, with to a Tunguoiola getting cut. This
- 47:30Speaker 4: is another quarterback on top of Kyler Murray who's going
- 47:32Speaker 4: to play on a veteran minimum contract somewhere while someone
- 47:35Speaker 4: else pays the freight, just like the Steelers got Russell Wilson,
- 47:39Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, and the Broncos paid all
- 47:41Speaker 4: that guaranteed money to him. They have such dead money,
- 47:45Speaker 4: both Murray and Tongue of Iola, that he's going to there.
- 47:50Speaker 4: A team is going to sign each of those two
- 47:52Speaker 4: players simply because they can only pay him at one
- 47:55Speaker 4: point three million dollars a veteran minimum, while someone else
- 47:58Speaker 4: pays the rest of the money. That will, in turn
- 48:01Speaker 4: let those two quarterbacks be picky on where they want
- 48:04Speaker 4: to go play. We'll see about the Vikings that seem
- 48:07Speaker 4: to be an obvious destination for any of those three quarterbacks,
- 48:10Speaker 4: including Gino Smith. But John Schneider has to sit back
- 48:15Speaker 4: and just go Wow, that worked out pretty.
- 48:17Speaker 2: Well for us, I will say. I would say, so,
- 48:22Speaker 2: all right, well, don't you know, don't leave town, you know,
- 48:26Speaker 2: keep your phone out, well bug if anything happens. But
- 48:30Speaker 2: thank you very much, appreciate you.
- 48:32Speaker 4: All right, Happy Monday.
- 48:34Speaker 7: Thank you.
- 48:34Speaker 2: Greg beller Sihawks. Inside, of course, you can follow him
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- 49:17Speaker 2: Gino Smith was in the news over the weekend and
- 49:20Speaker 2: it really does beg the question, what the f are
- 49:23Speaker 2: you doing? Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. There's
- 49:27Speaker 2: a Monday. We're getting ready for Tampafest. Hopefully you woke
- 49:30Speaker 2: up this morning ready to get your tamp on. It
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- 49:37Speaker 2: March Madness is coming soon.
- 49:39Speaker 4: Two.
- 49:39Speaker 2: We are six days away from selection Sunday, and I
- 49:43Speaker 2: just want to mention I don't have anything official to
- 49:45Speaker 2: announce today, but we not long ago out at Quilseeda
- 49:49Speaker 2: Creek we ended up doing a little you know, watchfest
- 49:54Speaker 2: if you will of the NCAA tournament. There's something in
- 49:57Speaker 2: the works. Let me just put it that way, in
- 50:00Speaker 2: the works. Uh so, Yeah, we're gonna give you a
- 50:03Speaker 2: reason to go to tu layl up in the DraftKings
- 50:04Speaker 2: sports book here very soon.
- 50:07Speaker 5: It sounds like, yep, yep, I'm moving there. That's what's
- 50:10Speaker 5: in the world. I'm gonna move right into the sports book.
- 50:13Speaker 5: There's a really comfy booth right.
- 50:15Speaker 2: By the bar.
- 50:15Speaker 5: I figured it's a good place to wake up. You know,
- 50:18Speaker 5: you have a mimosa before I head into works.
- 50:21Speaker 2: Great.
- 50:22Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's a good idea. And then I'll gamble
- 50:24Speaker 5: a lot. So make sure you guys are bringing some
- 50:27Speaker 5: info because I'm going to be gambling a lot more.
- 50:31Speaker 2: Yeah, your guys is you and Chucks. And then I
- 50:33Speaker 2: can blame you if you don't make me.
- 50:35Speaker 1: Rich, okay. And then do we get a portion of No,
- 50:38Speaker 1: you just get an.
- 50:38Speaker 2: At a girl and an ata boy. Okay. I don't know.
- 50:41Speaker 1: That's a fair trade.
- 50:42Speaker 2: A lot more than money. Actually, yeah it is. And
- 50:45Speaker 2: a tussle hair tussle. Yeah, yeah, fills yep. Uh So
- 50:49Speaker 2: to Leylap Resort Casino. Qu'll see the Creek Casino again.
- 50:53Speaker 2: We'll have some reminders for you in the next couple
- 50:56Speaker 2: of days as to what we are going to launch,
- 50:59Speaker 2: so make sure you are tuned in for that. All right,
- 51:03Speaker 2: we gotta talk about this thing. So Geno Smith is
- 51:05Speaker 2: no longer going to be a Raider, as we just
- 51:07Speaker 2: discussed with Greg Bell. I mean, I don't know if
- 51:11Speaker 2: a move could have turned out better. There's no way
- 51:15Speaker 2: they could have envisioned that this would turn out as
- 51:17Speaker 2: successful as it was. I mean it felt like, I
- 51:21Speaker 2: don't know, maybe maybe if we did have that drink
- 51:25Speaker 2: with John Schneider and his red Solo cup, he would
- 51:29Speaker 2: tell us I knew all along, played all of you.
- 51:34Speaker 2: I knew Geno was gonna go belly up, and I
- 51:37Speaker 2: knew Sam Darnold was a top five quarterback. Ginger Jesus. Yeah,
- 51:42Speaker 2: but it did feel, at least at the time, that
- 51:45Speaker 2: that was a difficult decision for them to make to
- 51:48Speaker 2: move on from Gino Smith, to trade him away without
- 51:52Speaker 2: having a sure without having a quarterback. I mean, they
- 51:56Speaker 2: got rid of Geno before they signed Sam, and.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Then you're just hoping you can get the guy you want.
- 52:00Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd already moved DK and then you moved Geno
- 52:02Speaker 2: Smith and really didn't have a sure thing at quarterback
- 52:07Speaker 2: to replace him, and then the free agent signing of
- 52:09Speaker 2: Sam Darnold. So it felt to me at the time
- 52:12Speaker 2: that it wasn't the easiest decision in the world, but
- 52:15Speaker 2: that the organization has decided this is the best decision
- 52:19Speaker 2: for us right now. And then for it to work
- 52:21Speaker 2: out the way that it did. You win the Super
- 52:24Speaker 2: Bowl and Geno Smith doesn't even make it to the
- 52:28Speaker 2: tampering period of the following year and not traded, just cut,
- 52:34Speaker 2: we will eat the salary, get out of Vegas and
- 52:38Speaker 2: don't ever come back. I mean, I mean, you couldn't
- 52:41Speaker 2: have had a more extreme result.
- 52:44Speaker 5: No, And yet I mean that I have a hard
- 52:46Speaker 5: time feeling like the tie between Pete Carroll and Gino Smith.
- 52:53Speaker 5: And it worked out, I mean to some degree in
- 52:56Speaker 5: the on the heels of John Schneider and probably Pete
- 53:00Speaker 5: Carroll saying enough with Russell right him wanting to cook
- 53:04Speaker 5: and he's not a chef, he shouldn't be cooking. He
- 53:07Speaker 5: should just be doing what we told him to do
- 53:09Speaker 5: that led us to a Super.
- 53:10Speaker 2: Bowl at one point in time.
- 53:12Speaker 5: Moving on from that and having Gino step in and
- 53:16Speaker 5: it wasn't like it was all horrible, but it wasn't.
- 53:19Speaker 5: It was far from great. It was far from something
- 53:21Speaker 5: you're like, I can build my franchise around that. But
- 53:24Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if John Schneider and Pete Carroll
- 53:27Speaker 5: over a Red Solo Cup had a couple disagreements about that,
- 53:31Speaker 5: and it was probably part of the all right, we
- 53:34Speaker 5: just got to go in separatear we're not on the
- 53:36Speaker 5: same page anymore.
- 53:37Speaker 2: We were for a long time.
- 53:38Speaker 5: It was great, it was fun, but give me my
- 53:40Speaker 5: Red Solo Cup back and you're out of here and
- 53:42Speaker 5: you can take Gino with you. I don't think that
- 53:44Speaker 5: they would have seen it as going from where they
- 53:47Speaker 5: were to first. And I guarantee if Pete Carroll didn't
- 53:50Speaker 5: think I'm taking this job and I'm bringing Gina with
- 53:53Speaker 5: me and we're going to go from mediocrity in Seattle
- 53:56Speaker 5: to the worst team in the NFL, he necessarily saw that.
- 54:01Speaker 5: But I think that I don't think that John Schneider
- 54:03Speaker 5: would be even He maybe wouldn't boast about it, but
- 54:08Speaker 5: I think in close quarters he would probably be. Yeah,
- 54:11Speaker 5: I knew Gino Smith was not going to take us
- 54:14Speaker 5: where we wanted to.
- 54:14Speaker 2: Go a lot guarantee it. He was a lot more
- 54:17Speaker 2: clear cut on the idea than he led us to believe.
- 54:19Speaker 2: To protect Gino, yes, and to protect the trade value
- 54:24Speaker 2: of Gino, but he couldn't have thought that it was
- 54:28Speaker 2: this overwhelming. It couldn't have thought we're going to be
- 54:30Speaker 2: the best team in the league next year and they're
- 54:33Speaker 2: going to be the worst.
- 54:34Speaker 6: No. I don't think anyone would have predicted that in
- 54:36Speaker 6: a night hoping. I think if Pete would have known that,
- 54:38Speaker 6: he wouldn't have taken the job. And I do think
- 54:40Speaker 6: that Pete his sentimentality over the years maybe has increased.
- 54:44Speaker 1: In his decision making.
- 54:46Speaker 4: You know.
- 54:46Speaker 6: I mean, look, he goes to Vegas and he brings Gino,
- 54:50Speaker 6: Tyler Lockett, Jamal Adams. I mean he's clearly got his
- 54:56Speaker 6: you know, his affinity for his players, and he's always
- 54:58Speaker 6: had that. But I do think that at times it
- 54:59Speaker 6: can be clouding his judgment. And I would think that
- 55:02Speaker 6: that seemed like maybe the case.
- 55:03Speaker 2: I think he got way too involved in the personnel.
- 55:06Speaker 2: I think he got way too heavy handed with you
- 55:09Speaker 2: know what, John, I respect your opinion, but we're going
- 55:11Speaker 2: to do this. Yeah, I have the hammer. I have hand,
- 55:15Speaker 2: we're going to do this, and I think the I
- 55:17Speaker 2: think way too many of those things were happening in
- 55:20Speaker 2: the last couple of years with those guys, and that's
- 55:22Speaker 2: what led to the coup. That's what led to the overthrow.
- 55:25Speaker 2: And Gino wasn't done making headlines last weekend. I'm sure
- 55:31Speaker 2: most people saw this. But for whatever reason, and maybe
- 55:35Speaker 2: it was sagging market share, you know, maybe it was
- 55:41Speaker 2: that Wendy's is desperate, the fast food once fast food giant,
- 55:45Speaker 2: is desperate for business. But for whatever reason, some pr person,
- 55:50Speaker 2: probably a Raider fan, decided, I'm going to take a
- 55:54Speaker 2: cheap shot at Gino Smith, and so Wendy's tweets out
- 55:59Speaker 2: in these things don't work out in free agency, we're
- 56:02Speaker 2: looking for a chief tasting officer and tweeted it directly
- 56:07Speaker 2: to Gino Smith. Uncalled for ridiculous. I mean, why on
- 56:12Speaker 2: earth would that happen if you weren't just looking for
- 56:15Speaker 2: some cheap publicity.
- 56:16Speaker 6: Well, and that's the thing is they had posted they
- 56:18Speaker 6: are actually hiring a chief tasting officer. It's a job
- 56:21Speaker 6: that they have, like somebody to do social media stuff
- 56:24Speaker 6: of their food and they're going to pay them one
- 56:25Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars a year, and they have like this
- 56:27Speaker 6: whole thing going right now, this promo you can apply
- 56:31Speaker 6: online till March thirtieth and you can be this person.
- 56:34Speaker 6: So I think that is exactly what they're doing there, Like,
- 56:36Speaker 6: let's promote the job we've been trying to get people
- 56:39Speaker 6: to apply.
- 56:39Speaker 2: For, right, and we'll do it through you know, social
- 56:42Speaker 2: media means, and so we'll call out somebody that just
- 56:45Speaker 2: got released from the National Football League. Well, Gino then
- 56:49Speaker 2: spent the rest of his day, obviously stewing over this,
- 56:53Speaker 2: angry about it, and got in a teak for tat
- 56:56Speaker 2: argument on social media with Wendy's, sending out like tweets
- 57:01Speaker 2: about how their sales had plunged in the last quarter
- 57:04Speaker 2: and taking shots at them himself and how bad their
- 57:08Speaker 2: food was and everything else.
- 57:09Speaker 6: I mean, come on, man, yeah, come on, you look
- 57:15Speaker 6: like the better person if you don't respond, of course
- 57:17Speaker 6: you do.
- 57:17Speaker 2: I mean, do you realize how small you look by responding?
- 57:21Speaker 2: Be the joke? It's okay, nobody was taking it that. Yeah,
- 57:26Speaker 2: you got you. You were the joke. You were the
- 57:27Speaker 2: butt of the joke from from Wendy's. For goodness sake,
- 57:31Speaker 2: and a few people took shots at you, but you've
- 57:33Speaker 2: made it a thousand times worse by arguing with them online.
- 57:40Speaker 2: And now I don't know. I mean, I think he's
- 57:43Speaker 2: gonna find a job somewhere. Uh, but Gino's taken the
- 57:47Speaker 2: wrong turn, man, he has just taken the wrong turn.
- 57:51Speaker 2: He kind of redeemed his entire name here in Seattle
- 57:55Speaker 2: and then just has been given it away ever since.
- 57:58Speaker 2: It's like righting everyone back exactly.
- 58:01Speaker 5: Yeah, you're keeping receipts, are writing back at this point,
- 58:04Speaker 5: I don't understand it either. I mean, it's the day
- 58:07Speaker 5: and age. You're right, uncalled for for Wendy's to necessarily
- 58:10Speaker 5: go there. But it's just the way that it is.
- 58:11Speaker 5: People are. They're looking for clicks, they're looking for engagements.
- 58:15Speaker 5: They will do whatever, say whatever, whether it hurts your
- 58:17Speaker 5: feelings or not.
- 58:19Speaker 2: And yet when it's.
- 58:20Speaker 5: Part of your way, I mean, it's not like Gino
- 58:22Speaker 5: Smith hasn't used social media to his own benefit to
- 58:26Speaker 5: bolster his resurgence. When he came here, he most certainly
- 58:29Speaker 5: was Yeah, the tide is flowing in my direction right now.
- 58:32Speaker 5: I'm gonna ride this wave. Well, when it's not flowing
- 58:35Speaker 5: in your direction. When you basically go from you get
- 58:39Speaker 5: released from a team and they go on to win
- 58:41Speaker 5: the super Bowl and you go to the worst and
- 58:42Speaker 5: then you get released from that team, You're gonna get
- 58:46Speaker 5: some some arrows slung your way. Just let it glance
- 58:49Speaker 5: off your You're a bazillionaire. Just be rich, and who
- 58:54Speaker 5: cares what Wendy says? Instead, you make yourself look like
- 58:56Speaker 5: a kid.
- 58:57Speaker 2: Or just you make a joke back. I would have
- 59:00Speaker 2: had you gotta pay me more than now? What am
- 59:03Speaker 2: catching strays for? I don't know, Just something that shows
- 59:06Speaker 2: that you've got a little bit of a sense of
- 59:08Speaker 2: humor versus being the most sensitive person this side of
- 59:12Speaker 2: Kevin Durant.
- 59:13Speaker 6: I would have had them someone. I would have said,
- 59:14Speaker 6: who can make a meme of me in a Wendy's outfit?
- 59:17Speaker 6: And I would have posted it to be the joke
- 59:20Speaker 6: to show your whatever you're doing is not going to
- 59:22Speaker 6: phase me. But instead he did that and then everybody
- 59:25Speaker 6: else started posting memes of him in a Wendy's outfit.
- 59:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, just tweet out I got your
- 59:30Speaker 2: big and juicy, right, you know, I don't know?
- 59:34Speaker 1: Yeah, square meat, round bun.
- 59:35Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense, right, But he ended up looking
- 59:39Speaker 2: petty and silly and defensive all weekend long, and and
- 59:44Speaker 2: then took far more grief for doing it that way
- 59:48Speaker 2: than he did for the cheap shot joke that Wendy's
- 59:51Speaker 2: told at his expense. Yeah.
- 59:54Speaker 1: Yeah, not a good look.
- 59:55Speaker 2: Not a good look, not a good look at all.
- 59:57Speaker 2: All right. Uh, Sam would have never done it. Hate
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: to keep running that in your face, But Sam Darnold
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: would have been above that.
- 1:00:04Speaker 7: Thank you.
- 1:00:04Speaker 6: Probably would have applied for the job and said, yeah,
- 1:00:06Speaker 6: I would add that to my resume.
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: Probably would have taken them back to the top of
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: the burger world. Probably, Yeah, just by involving himself in it. Yeah,
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: I mean, I don't mean rubbed salt in the wound.
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: But Sam would have handled that a lot better. Yeah,
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: probably like a champion, Like a champ.
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: All right. Coming up next, the Kraken did beat the deadline,
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: but barely. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. As
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: the NFL free agency frenzy continues, let me get you
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: updated because the information is now starting to roll as
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: we're getting closer to the top of the hour and
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: the tampering period officially beginning. Travis Kelcey. Despite what I
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: just said about fifteen minutes ago, looks like he will
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: be returning to the Kansas City Chiefs on a fourteenth season,
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: So it looks like he will play again for the Chiefs.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: That just seems right. Dallas Cowboys seemed to be very
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: interested in Trey Hendrickson of Falcons. Might be a team
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: that pursues to a tongue of by Low. I guess
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: they want just all left handers, all southpaws. I did
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: hear that?
- 1:01:08Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess maybe you don't have to change things.
- 1:01:11Speaker 5: If Pennix goes down, you're really going to change anything
- 1:01:14Speaker 5: for two.
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: And then tebou think they're signing him as well. Of
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: them great idea. Sounds like the Trent Williams San Francisco
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: forty nine ers. Things just not going to come together.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: And some other teams are starting to be linked to
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: Trent Williams, including the Kansas City Chiefs, so that's something
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: certainly worth monitoring. And believe it or not, the Philadelphia
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: Eagles are shopping not just one of their issues, one
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: of their players that causes them angst in AJ Brown.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: They might be dangling Jalen Carter as well, there's a
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: lot of smoke here for there not to be any fire.
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: But Jalen Carter is being discussed in a lot of
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: trade rumors out there Green Bay, San Francisco, Las Vegas,
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: Chicago and Seattle Seahawks Jalen Carter. So a lot of
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: things we're monitoring here for you, and we'll get more
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: into it in our nine o'clock hour once the tampering
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: period is underway, we'll have more time to discuss this
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: Wednesday or maybe Thursday. But I just I want to
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: say it now. I want to go on the record
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: in our minute left that we have here in this hour.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: I'm liking the WBC, but are we really exposing all
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: of our best major league players to this competition to
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: just have a series of blowouts in pool play against
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: countries whose majority of their rosters aren't even from their country?
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: I mean, are we really? I mean we already talked
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: about how we're not real comfortable about having to play
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: these games and you know, possibly risking major league players
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: for the season to participate in this WBC Classic. And
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: to me, I'm fine with that as long as we've
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: got a good competition. But all I'm watching in pool
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: play is one blowout after the other against countries who
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: don't even have anybody from the country on the team.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: Why are we doing this? I mean it's to me,
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: I think that we got like eight teams that should
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: not even be participating in pool play. They just get
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: to advance right to a tournament and then let everybody
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: else fight it out in pool play that doesn't have
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty five major league regulars on their roster.
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: It just feels unnecessary to me.
- 1:03:33Speaker 5: I mean there is a lot of blowouts. I mean
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: a Dominican you know versus what the Netherlands or whatever.
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: I mean, typically those aren't going to pan out.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: That's not one of the examples. They got like nine guys,
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: but then again, none of them are from the Netherlands.
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: They're all from Kirosau. They got like nine major leaguers
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: on that.
- 1:03:49Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's I don't know, I like
- 1:03:52Speaker 5: seeing these underdogs because it's a lot of the guys
- 1:03:56Speaker 5: are you know, they're playing for you know, Australia for example.
- 1:04:00Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw that that one brother
- 1:04:02Speaker 5: was in the stands, that his brother was out there
- 1:04:04Speaker 5: pitching and he's getting all emotional because it's the biggest
- 1:04:07Speaker 5: thing that his brother's ever done, and so he's kind
- 1:04:09Speaker 5: of getting to live through that vicarious. I mean, there's
- 1:04:12Speaker 5: there's a lot of guys on some of these teams.
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: That will never be in a bigger game than these.
- 1:04:16Speaker 5: Right, and so they're getting if they're getting to play
- 1:04:18Speaker 5: against a Dominican or Venezuela or America or you know, Japan,
- 1:04:23Speaker 5: these the teams that would probably advance, Like you're talking about,
- 1:04:27Speaker 5: that's some pretty cool stuff, was it? Who was it
- 1:04:29Speaker 5: the seventeen year old kid that was pitching against us? Yeah,
- 1:04:32Speaker 5: like high school kid, he's going to pitch in the
- 1:04:35Speaker 5: big league.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was kind of cool to see that moment. Yeah,
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: that was pretty neat. I can't imagine what's going through that.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: I'm not saying cool moments don't come around. But if
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: I'm John Stantlem, like I invest, I have two hundred
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: million dollars invested in Julio Rodriguez and he has to
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: face a seventeen year old knock need kid that might
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: hit him in the ear. Yeah, I mean to me,
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: it's not worth it for those extra couple feel good stories,
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: just isn't. So I just want to skip over. I don't.
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: I think some teams just are too good to be
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: in pool play. We don't need to see all these blowouts.
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: I don't need to. I don't need Cal Rawley catching
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: nine innings in a blowout.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: I can totally.
- 1:05:11Speaker 6: I can definitely understand the nervousness of having them play
- 1:05:14Speaker 6: against some people maybe who you know, aren't nearly up
- 1:05:18Speaker 6: to their talent level. But I think, I mean, you
- 1:05:20Speaker 6: could get hit by a pitcher, you could get hit
- 1:05:21Speaker 6: by Terrek Scouble in the year. I mean it doesn't
- 1:05:25Speaker 6: you know that's a risk regardless of who you're facing.
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next, Robert Turbin joins the sports
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: radio ninety three point three kJ RFM, Happy Tamper Fast
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. We are in it nine o'clock hour.
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: At the tampering begin. Oh, they're gonna be tampering from
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: coast to coast. If you got you got a child
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: who runs less than a six flat forty, he's gonna
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: be tampered with. Guy, there's gonna be tampering going on
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: in every restaurant, every corner of every bar. You better
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: believe tampering is on.
- 1:06:14Speaker 5: Its way, and it starts officially now it's already happening
- 1:06:17Speaker 5: right now, two minutes into Tamperfest twenty twenty six.
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: Oh hope Bear's not getting tampered with too much. Probably, yes, probably,
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: Mike mcdonald'll probably bugging him already. You're gonna be big son.
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: He's gotta get the recess lad alone. Good morning. NFL
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: Free agency frenzy starts with a two day tampering period,
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: and so we should start finding out some information here
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: relatively soon as the free agent fur begins to fly. Seahawks,
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: of course, have six starters entering free agency. Doesn't sound
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: like they worked out any deals at the last second
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: to keep them. Kobe Bryant, Reek Woolen, Josh job Boy,
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: Mafe ken Walker, Rashid Shah. He looks like they're all
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: going to enter this tampering period having not been signed
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: by the Seahawks. And so we'll talk about it for
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: the rest of our hour. And joining us now to
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: help us with the conversation former Seahawks running back and
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: you now see him working in the media as well,
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: and that is Robert Turbin who joins us here on
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck. Good morning, sir, Hey, what's up?
- 1:07:27Speaker 7: How we doing how we're going.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: Good to have you on again. Yeah, are you excited
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: to watch a little free agency frenzy here today?
- 1:07:35Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 1:07:35Speaker 7: Free agency is always exciting to to kind of wait
- 1:07:39Speaker 7: and see who goes where and what sort of tough
- 1:07:43Speaker 7: decisions teams make. This is an exciting time for US players,
- 1:07:48Speaker 7: you know. I remember the first time, you know, being
- 1:07:50Speaker 7: an actual free agent and having some you know, some
- 1:07:54Speaker 7: leverage and some choices in terms of you know, where
- 1:07:57Speaker 7: we could go.
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: And so it's fun.
- 1:07:59Speaker 7: I mean it's fun on the on the team side,
- 1:08:02Speaker 7: and certainly for the player side as well.
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: Well.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: I'm very curious from your very interesting perspective, because, on
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: one hand, I know, when it comes to ken Walker,
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: you probably want running backs to be valued for what
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: they bring to the table. On the other hand, you
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: spent your career as a backup running back, and I'm
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: sure there were times where you thought to yourself, you're
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: paying all that guy all that money when I know
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: I could do it better than he can. So where
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: then do you land with how valuable ken Walker is
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: to the Seahawks and their future success.
- 1:08:35Speaker 7: Well, I think he's extremely valuable to the Seahawks and
- 1:08:38Speaker 7: their future success. You know, but I don't think that
- 1:08:42Speaker 7: he makes or breaks the team either, And that's what
- 1:08:47Speaker 7: is always tough about, you know, making these choices. Right,
- 1:08:51Speaker 7: you get a special player like kenne Falk with the third,
- 1:08:54Speaker 7: but you've got to manage the salary cap in a
- 1:08:56Speaker 7: wise way, and so you have to do this thing
- 1:09:00Speaker 7: from a patient perspective. And I think that's why we
- 1:09:04Speaker 7: haven't seen any of these guys that that that are
- 1:09:07Speaker 7: free agents for the Seahawks get signed yet sort of
- 1:09:10Speaker 7: in this tampering window. You gotta be patient, and you
- 1:09:14Speaker 7: got to allow guys sometimes to go go out and
- 1:09:16Speaker 7: explore the market that not only helps the player in
- 1:09:21Speaker 7: terms of, you know where his value sits at this
- 1:09:24Speaker 7: moment in time, but also the team in terms of,
- 1:09:27Speaker 7: you know what kind of what kind of offer can
- 1:09:30Speaker 7: we make that we feel is is suitable for for
- 1:09:34Speaker 7: for both sides.
- 1:09:36Speaker 5: Robert, we were talking earlier today about K nine and
- 1:09:39Speaker 5: how after Zach Charbney went down and he basically was
- 1:09:42Speaker 5: given you know, the lions shares here, you're you're running
- 1:09:45Speaker 5: the rock. There's no more time share trying to keep
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: you healthy.
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: Uh.
- 1:09:48Speaker 5: I mean, he showed out, he ran as well as
- 1:09:51Speaker 5: he had at any point in time as far as
- 1:09:54Speaker 5: three games in a row as a Sea Hawk when
- 1:09:57Speaker 5: he was running, he kind of has that patience. They
- 1:10:00Speaker 5: were talking about how patient he was in the Super Bowl,
- 1:10:03Speaker 5: and yet at the other times when he gets stuffed
- 1:10:05Speaker 5: for you know, no gain or one yard loss, people
- 1:10:08Speaker 5: are call that tiptoe up to the line. So when
- 1:10:10Speaker 5: you saw him running in the playoffs and how well
- 1:10:13Speaker 5: he ran and up his stock, so to speak, was
- 1:10:16Speaker 5: that something that you looked like he learned something, he
- 1:10:19Speaker 5: figured something out or was that just the blocking and
- 1:10:22Speaker 5: they were holding those blocks a little bit longer. What
- 1:10:24Speaker 5: was it that you saw, Because obviously it has upped
- 1:10:27Speaker 5: his value in free agency.
- 1:10:29Speaker 7: It was his it was his development, you know, over
- 1:10:31Speaker 7: the course of time that he's been with the Seahawks,
- 1:10:35Speaker 7: and so you got to give a lot of credit
- 1:10:36Speaker 7: to him. You got to give a lot of credit
- 1:10:38Speaker 7: to his position coach at running back, and you know,
- 1:10:41Speaker 7: really quick Kubiak is offensive coordinator in terms of just
- 1:10:44Speaker 7: learning who Kenneth Walker is and what he does best.
- 1:10:48Speaker 7: But you know, the adjustment with his patients and everything
- 1:10:52Speaker 7: like that at the line of scrimmage. That took time
- 1:10:54Speaker 7: for Kenneth Walker to learn because when you watch him
- 1:10:57Speaker 7: on tape for a long time, he was always seemingly
- 1:11:01Speaker 7: in a rush, in the rush to get to the
- 1:11:03Speaker 7: line of scrimmage, in the ruest to get through the
- 1:11:05Speaker 7: line of scrimmage. Sometimes you know he would miss opportunities
- 1:11:10Speaker 7: for big runs because of lack of patience. And so
- 1:11:14Speaker 7: when you think about his day to day process, who's
- 1:11:17Speaker 7: coaching them, what kind of offensive scheme is being centered
- 1:11:21Speaker 7: around his skills set? You know, all that equaled out
- 1:11:24Speaker 7: to him, you know, becoming the runner that he became
- 1:11:27Speaker 7: in terms of and being the MVP of the Super Bowl.
- 1:11:31Speaker 7: I think it was his development over time.
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: Robert Turbin is with us, former Seahawk running back and
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: of course the owner of world's largest biceps. He's with
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: us right here on Chuck and Buck in the Morning's
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: talking about NFL free agency and specifically Ken Walker looks
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: like he will be entering NFL free agency. A deal
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: has not been worked out. Is there part of you
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: that worries that he figured things out at it took
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: four years, but now he has figured it out, and
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: if he wears another uniform next year, he's going to
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: take all those things that he learned here in Seattle
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: and he's finally going to be that special running back
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: that we forecasted him to be four years ago. I mean,
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: he's been good as a Seahawk, Robert, but I don't
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: know if we could have categorized him as special until
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: the playoff run. Do you feel like he's going to
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: take this momentum and end up being special in another
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: team's uniform going forward, Well, I think he is.
- 1:12:29Speaker 7: You know, I think his his growth is going to
- 1:12:32Speaker 7: continue to climb over the course of his career. I
- 1:12:36Speaker 7: think he's just entering his prime now because he's got
- 1:12:38Speaker 7: something figured out. But that's the scary thing about free agency.
- 1:12:42Speaker 7: And I'll push back on what you said a little bit.
- 1:12:44Speaker 7: You know, in terms of now becoming special, I think
- 1:12:47Speaker 7: he always was, especially early on his career. Then he
- 1:12:51Speaker 7: had some injury that kind of dinged him up here
- 1:12:53Speaker 7: and there, kind of kind of slowed him down, kind
- 1:12:55Speaker 7: of slowed up his development. But in terms of his
- 1:12:58Speaker 7: explosive speed, elusiveness and being able to take the ball
- 1:13:02Speaker 7: to the house from anywhere on the field, that's always
- 1:13:04Speaker 7: been there and that's pretty special. But I think he
- 1:13:07Speaker 7: put it all together this season in terms of you know,
- 1:13:11Speaker 7: the patients like we talked about and everything else. But
- 1:13:14Speaker 7: I think that's only going to continue to rise even
- 1:13:17Speaker 7: when he goes to another team. But that's also where
- 1:13:19Speaker 7: he has to be careful in this situation. And if
- 1:13:22Speaker 7: I was giving him any advice, Obviously you want to
- 1:13:26Speaker 7: maximize on the dollars, especially especially at running back, but
- 1:13:32Speaker 7: I think there's also a space to understand, you know,
- 1:13:37Speaker 7: where he is in terms of playing for the Seattle Seahawks.
- 1:13:39Speaker 7: Seattle Seahawks very special organization. Not every organizations run the
- 1:13:46Speaker 7: way Seattle Seahawks run. Then you have to think about,
- 1:13:49Speaker 7: you know, Seattle as a whole, like the town, the people,
- 1:13:53Speaker 7: the opportunities that present themselves post career. It's hard to
- 1:13:58Speaker 7: think about retirement, you know, when you're in your prime.
- 1:14:01Speaker 7: But the truth of the matter is, man, this thing
- 1:14:03Speaker 7: comes to an end for everybody. So for Kenneth Walker,
- 1:14:06Speaker 7: it's like, Okay, you know, do you want to go
- 1:14:08Speaker 7: chase high dollars and maybe not as good of a
- 1:14:12Speaker 7: team and maybe not as good of a relationship with
- 1:14:15Speaker 7: the city, or do you take a little bit less,
- 1:14:20Speaker 7: continue to build the legacy that you've already established with
- 1:14:24Speaker 7: the Seattle Seahawks and the city of Seattle, because to me,
- 1:14:29Speaker 7: that's going to create so many more riches for you
- 1:14:33Speaker 7: than any dollar sign on a contract can at this
- 1:14:36Speaker 7: moment in time.
- 1:14:38Speaker 5: Yeah, that's yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I mean,
- 1:14:41Speaker 5: I got one more on the ken Walker. I mean,
- 1:14:43Speaker 5: just because you're a perfect guy to ask this. You
- 1:14:45Speaker 5: were maybe used more so as the change of pace guy,
- 1:14:49Speaker 5: and yet you would understand the toll that it takes
- 1:14:53Speaker 5: to go through the car crashes of being a running back.
- 1:14:55Speaker 5: And there's some reports out there that Cannine maybe was
- 1:15:00Speaker 5: super pumped about being used in such an equal kind
- 1:15:03Speaker 5: of time share with Zach Shermany on a contract year,
- 1:15:06Speaker 5: and yet that also is you know, maybe it's not
- 1:15:09Speaker 5: the reason, but it definitely helped in the fact that
- 1:15:12Speaker 5: he was as fresh as he was healthy as he
- 1:15:14Speaker 5: was to be able to run through the playoffs the
- 1:15:17Speaker 5: way that he didn't and kind of up his stock.
- 1:15:19Speaker 5: So as a running back, I mean in today's game,
- 1:15:22Speaker 5: is that just the way that it is? Is the
- 1:15:24Speaker 5: shared thing? And does he have a legit beef as
- 1:15:27Speaker 5: to not getting more number one carries in a contract year?
- 1:15:32Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I can see exactly. I understand where
- 1:15:34Speaker 7: he's coming from on that because you know, like the
- 1:15:36Speaker 7: only one running one running back on the field at
- 1:15:38Speaker 7: a time, man, and we want to be able to
- 1:15:40Speaker 7: maximize on those opportunities. When you're a starter, you want
- 1:15:44Speaker 7: to come out the game when you want to come
- 1:15:46Speaker 7: out the game. That's really what it comes down to.
- 1:15:48Speaker 7: I don't want coach pulling me out unless I say, hey,
- 1:15:53Speaker 7: I need a blow for a couple of plays. That
- 1:15:56Speaker 7: that is what Kenneth Walker, the third here is talking about.
- 1:15:59Speaker 7: You know, I don't think he minds, you know, sharing time,
- 1:16:03Speaker 7: but he wants to control you know when that is
- 1:16:07Speaker 7: and sometimes it could be frustrating for a back when
- 1:16:09Speaker 7: when you when you don't have control of that. Like
- 1:16:11Speaker 7: the Christian mccaffreys of the world and the Derrick Henry's
- 1:16:15Speaker 7: of the world and the Saquon Barkers, they control when
- 1:16:18Speaker 7: they're coming in and when they're coming out of the game.
- 1:16:21Speaker 7: And so if you want a situation like that, I
- 1:16:23Speaker 7: can certainly understand it. You know, we're we're we're highly
- 1:16:26Speaker 7: competitive guys. But I would I would, I would really
- 1:16:30Speaker 7: sit back and look at how this season played out
- 1:16:33Speaker 7: for him and the benefit it was to have a
- 1:16:39Speaker 7: one two punch you know and have a second guy
- 1:16:42Speaker 7: by his side, and I think that even as he's
- 1:16:45Speaker 7: looking at free agency, a situation like that would benefit him.
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: Great stuff here this morning from Robert Turbin, former Seahawks
- 1:16:52Speaker 2: running back does work with serious XM's an NFL analysts
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: also CBS joining us here this morning on the day
- 1:16:59Speaker 2: of the tampering period, which got underway just a few
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: minutes ago. Uh, to talk about some of the Seahawks
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: issues heading in to this free agency period. All right,
- 1:17:08Speaker 2: so just let's lump all the other ones together. You
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: got Rashid Shahed, You've got Kobe Bryant, You've got Josh Job,
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: You've got Rik Wollen, you've got boy A Mafe. Of
- 1:17:19Speaker 2: those five guys, what's what's one guy, Robert that you say, Seahawks,
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: don't let that guy go pay him whatever he wants
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: to keep him on this roster.
- 1:17:31Speaker 7: Uh. You know, honestly, that guy would be Kenneth Walker,
- 1:17:34Speaker 7: the third.
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: Okay, no he's not.
- 1:17:37Speaker 7: He wasn't on that list that you just mentioned, but
- 1:17:41Speaker 7: you know, and and obviously all of those guys that
- 1:17:44Speaker 7: you mentioned are are our key contributors, you know, to
- 1:17:48Speaker 7: to the title run this last year and and really
- 1:17:51Speaker 7: really good players, especially Rashid Shahid because of his versatility
- 1:17:55Speaker 7: how you can use him. You know, we talked about
- 1:17:58Speaker 7: his return game, but you know, he's feel a good
- 1:18:00Speaker 7: wide receiver, that number two option on the outside, you know,
- 1:18:04Speaker 7: opposite jays N. But then you could use him in
- 1:18:07Speaker 7: some gadget plays, reverses and sweeps and things of that nature.
- 1:18:10Speaker 7: And so he does bring some dynamic to your offense
- 1:18:15Speaker 7: because of his special speed. And so if I had
- 1:18:18Speaker 7: to choose one just from that list, it would be
- 1:18:21Speaker 7: Rashiza heat But quite honestly, I don't see any of
- 1:18:23Speaker 7: those guys coming back.
- 1:18:24Speaker 5: Wow, really, none of them are not not even any
- 1:18:27Speaker 5: of the defensive guys Kobe Bryant, just Job or Riq Wolan.
- 1:18:30Speaker 5: They're gonna just have to replace a few dudes in
- 1:18:33Speaker 5: the back end.
- 1:18:33Speaker 7: Uh Josh Job. Josh Job is a guy that that
- 1:18:37Speaker 7: I see out of all those guys like guaranteed.
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: To come back. H M M and h. And would
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: you do the JSN and Witherspoon things this offseason.
- 1:18:49Speaker 7: As far as extension extension, Yeah, I think I think
- 1:18:53Speaker 7: the earlier you can get those things done, the better,
- 1:18:55Speaker 7: So I would say yes.
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we haven't even talked to you, uh since
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: the team won the Super Bowl. I mean, what are
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: your thoughts on that ride? I mean, uh were you
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: were you able to believe it? When did you know
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: that this team was going to be a Super Bowl champion?
- 1:19:12Speaker 7: Probably not until about three quarters through the season.
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:19:17Speaker 7: Was the second matchup against the Rams. It was a
- 1:19:21Speaker 7: close game. They won it at the end, and I
- 1:19:24Speaker 7: just felt like, okay, there that that's the edge that
- 1:19:27Speaker 7: they needed right there. And then they you know, then
- 1:19:30Speaker 7: they I think it was the last game of the
- 1:19:32Speaker 7: season they beat the forty nine ers, but it was
- 1:19:35Speaker 7: a few weeks before that they played the Rams. They
- 1:19:37Speaker 7: won a close one, and to me, it just gave
- 1:19:40Speaker 7: them an edge. And I and I and I said
- 1:19:42Speaker 7: to myself and said, man, they see the Rams again
- 1:19:43Speaker 7: in the playoffs. Seatle's got the edge. I just felt
- 1:19:47Speaker 7: like they had the edge, you know, just from that
- 1:19:48Speaker 7: one win. But it took a good, a good chuck
- 1:19:52Speaker 7: of the year, you know for me to see the
- 1:19:54Speaker 7: team as actual Super Bowl contenders.
- 1:19:57Speaker 2: Great stuff, Robert, Hey, great to chat with. Dear, thanks
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: for coming on this morning, sharing a few thoughts. We'll
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: bug you again soon, all right.
- 1:20:05Speaker 7: Anytime.
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: All right, Robert Turbott Turbo joining us right here on
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck in the mornings, right here on Free
- 1:20:12Speaker 2: Agency Frenzy Day. As he's always got some interesting thoughts.
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: So I had a feeling that the running back loyalty
- 1:20:20Speaker 2: would show up. Now they know what they do, they
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: know their value, they know the beating that they take.
- 1:20:29Speaker 2: And I don't think you can be in that fraternity
- 1:20:32Speaker 2: without defending their ability to make money. Pay the man.
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: That's how I feel Robert. But I think he's got
- 1:20:39Speaker 2: the I think he gets it though, unlike Michael Bennett,
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: just pay everybody, pay anybody. Robert gets it, like you
- 1:20:47Speaker 2: can't pay everybody. And he's thinking that maybe Josh Joe
- 1:20:53Speaker 2: and that would be about it that they can keep.
- 1:20:55Speaker 5: Yeah, but he would probably he would say it should
- 1:20:58Speaker 5: be Ken Walker, because I mean, he just flat out
- 1:21:02Speaker 5: said that the way in which he ran through the
- 1:21:04Speaker 5: playoffs was his development, not all. He just got a
- 1:21:08Speaker 5: better idea what the system is. It was he learned
- 1:21:12Speaker 5: and now, maybe unfortunate for him or to the Seahawks
- 1:21:16Speaker 5: if it took him four years to figure it out,
- 1:21:18Speaker 5: but he had multiple offensive coordinators, multiple head coaches. If
- 1:21:23Speaker 5: it did just take him to this last little month
- 1:21:26Speaker 5: of his Seahawks' tenure to figure out how he is
- 1:21:29Speaker 5: patient but then explosive, tough when he needs to be tough.
- 1:21:34Speaker 5: Good for him, even though it might mean that he
- 1:21:36Speaker 5: goes off and has a bunch of you know, fifteen
- 1:21:38Speaker 5: hundred yard seasons or a few of those with somebody else.
- 1:21:41Speaker 2: Well, that's and that's what I thought. I mean, I
- 1:21:43Speaker 2: liked him when they drafted him. I loved it when
- 1:21:47Speaker 2: I first got exposed to him as a Seahawks player
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: his second year in the league. I overdrafted him in
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: fantasy because I was sure that he was getting ready
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: to give us a fourteen fifteen hundred yard season. I
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: talk to my brother, who is doing his own fantasy,
- 1:22:02Speaker 2: you gotta get ken Walker, and then I can't. I
- 1:22:05Speaker 2: don't hear the end of that, because he just did
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: not produce statistically, and more than that, he just didn't
- 1:22:13Speaker 2: produce as consistently as what you would want him to.
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: Then he gets to the playoffs and he shows us
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: what he's capable of. I do believe there is an
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: element of Oh man, we might watch ken Walker games
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: whoever he plays for, with our eyes, hands over our
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: eyes just kind of looking through the cracks in our fingers,
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: like how good is he going to be? Has he
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: figured something out? Is he going to now go for
- 1:22:38Speaker 2: fourteen hundred yards as a Titan in a season or
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: fifteen hundred yards as a Commander in a season? And
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: all we did is prepped him for that. I mean,
- 1:22:46Speaker 2: he's twenty five years old, right, I mean his best
- 1:22:49Speaker 2: football should be ahead of him. But when you're weighing
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: all the things that we've discussed about him, like was
- 1:22:56Speaker 2: he that fresh at the end of the year because
- 1:22:59Speaker 2: you did put him on a carry sharing program this year?
- 1:23:04Speaker 2: Does he have some injuries that are always going to
- 1:23:08Speaker 2: pop up every single year? Does he hit the hole
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: consistently enough to not frustrate Mike McDonald where you have
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: to take him out in a crucial drive because you
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: don't trust him. All of those things combined, and you're
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: not going to give him top of the market money,
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: which is what he's going to get probably today. And
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: I've been saying all along, the Tennessee Titans have the
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: most money. I think he's going to be a Tennessee
- 1:23:32Speaker 2: Titan before the day comes to a close. But there's
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: a lot of interest in him, and those teams that
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: are interested just are a lot more interested in paying
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: him a lot of money than what the local team is.
- 1:23:44Speaker 5: Well, whoever does it is betting that what they saw
- 1:23:47Speaker 5: here the last month of the season, when he was
- 1:23:49Speaker 5: getting a lot most of the carries, that's the dude
- 1:23:51Speaker 5: that you're going to get, and that's what you're gonna
- 1:23:53Speaker 5: end up paying for. Whether or not it is that,
- 1:23:56Speaker 5: we'll have to see what that is. But I think
- 1:23:58Speaker 5: it's fairly certain to feel like the Seahawks are not
- 1:24:01Speaker 5: in that same category, and ultimately, the team that's watched
- 1:24:04Speaker 5: him every single snap of his professional career, I think
- 1:24:09Speaker 5: that's probably the opinion that I would take most.
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. John,
- 1:24:15Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm not gonna judge you, But if he
- 1:24:18Speaker 2: ends up being a Bronco, I'm not gonna be all
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: that mad either. By the way, Alec Pierce did come
- 1:24:24Speaker 2: to agreement on a term of the Indianapolis Colts. So
- 1:24:27Speaker 2: even though we're past the deadline and we are now
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: officially into the tampering period, it doesn't mean that they
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: weren't working on deals at the midnight hour with Walker
- 1:24:36Speaker 2: or Brian or whoever. Doesn't mean that, you know, they
- 1:24:40Speaker 2: might have something agreed upon, but until they have the
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: actual literature for the contract done, that we might not
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: hear that announcement. And even if they don't, even if
- 1:24:51Speaker 2: they don't, I mean, it's not like it's some hard
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: deadline like ken Walker can't eventually be a Seahawk. I
- 1:24:57Speaker 2: mean they can just keep negotiating with him throughout this process.
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: The only difference is is that now other teams are
- 1:25:04Speaker 2: legally allowed to tamper with his ass. Okay, so that's
- 1:25:08Speaker 2: that's the only difference. But they can keep negotiating with
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: him all day, all night into the morning. So that
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: doesn't mean that these players are leaving Seattle. In case
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: anybody was a little bit confused, you probably weren't. You're
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: you're pretty smart. Alec Pierce, though, did sign a deal
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: with the Indianapolis Colts four years, one hundred and sixteen million,
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: twenty nine million a year. Yeah, that's he's a good player.
- 1:25:34Speaker 2: It's a lot, though. That's a lot of money, A
- 1:25:36Speaker 2: lot for him, A lot, a lot that is paying
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: him like a at the very least a awesome number
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: two yeah, and almost a number one. Yeah.
- 1:25:47Speaker 5: Almost ninety million dollars guarantee, eighty four million guaranteed.
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, coming up next on the radio program,
- 1:25:53Speaker 2: we'll get you up to date on everything else that's
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: going on here in the frenzy. I have a feeling
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: we'll have some information to impart on the other side
- 1:26:03Speaker 2: of the commercial break Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM.
- 1:26:06Speaker 2: And it didn't take very long into the frenzy, into
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: the tampon to get in our tampering period on to
- 1:26:13Speaker 2: find out where ken Walker is going. He is leaving Seattle.
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: The Super Bowl MVP has in fact signed with the
- 1:26:22Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. Your breaking news here this morning, and
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: so ken Walker a chief. We don't have the dollar
- 1:26:30Speaker 2: figures on the deal, at least I don't have them
- 1:26:33Speaker 2: in front of me just yet. We'll try to find
- 1:26:36Speaker 2: those out for you as soon as possible. But that
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: did not take very long at all, all that ripe
- 1:26:43Speaker 2: and all that build up, and about thirty minutes into
- 1:26:46Speaker 2: the tampering period, not even that ken Walker is basically
- 1:26:50Speaker 2: the first big name off the books.
- 1:26:52Speaker 5: He's a Kansas City Chief'll screw you, K nine, It
- 1:26:57Speaker 5: came back here. Now you go to Kansas City. Fine,
- 1:27:02Speaker 5: your tip toeer?
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: Now he's a tip toer? Yeah, you who's it?
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: And what's it?
- 1:27:10Speaker 5: They're not going to be able to figure out how
- 1:27:11Speaker 5: to use him in that offense, damn it. Oh he's
- 1:27:15Speaker 5: going to go run for two thousand yards, isn't he.
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: He's going to make your Broncos look like fools.
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: Well if he does, it'll make Seattle bummed out too. Oh,
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: Misery loves company, Yeah it is, Oh okay, well yeah,
- 1:27:31Speaker 2: I mean this is the This was the story that
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: was kind of circulating throughout the entire weekend, like the
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: Chiefs look like a for sure thing, and then all
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: of a sudden, you wake up Monday morning and other
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: teams are being prominently mentioned as well. But it turns
- 1:27:46Speaker 2: out somebody knew something over the weekend. And I would
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: imagine there are a lot of someones who know a
- 1:27:52Speaker 2: lot of some things that are going to happen here today,
- 1:27:55Speaker 2: and I just waited for the right time to announce it.
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: And so first big signing is our guy leaving and
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: he's now their guy. Ken Walker is a Kansas City
- 1:28:05Speaker 2: chief And you're right, I mean, you hit upon something there. Yeah,
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: he's probably gonna be really good with that offense. You know,
- 1:28:14Speaker 2: I think he would have been good with our offense going.
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: I think he would have been better than what he'd
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: been regular season wise the last four years, had he
- 1:28:21Speaker 2: remained in Acawk uniform. But certainly, when you think about
- 1:28:25Speaker 2: all those other teams that were vying for him, the
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: Chiefs make an awful lot of sense.
- 1:28:30Speaker 5: M Well, I mean you've seen number of guys. I mean,
- 1:28:33Speaker 5: they've Pacheco was good, he'd ended up getting hurt. He
- 1:28:37Speaker 5: had some good years. I mean, I mean they've had
- 1:28:40Speaker 5: multiple guys maybe at the end didn't pan out the
- 1:28:43Speaker 5: way that they thought when they took him at the
- 1:28:44Speaker 5: end of the first round a couple years back. But
- 1:28:47Speaker 5: I mean Kareem Hunt at tian Or Yeah, well not
- 1:28:52Speaker 5: the one that went to the Jaguars. There's another Edwards Hilaire, Yeah, Hilaire. Yeah,
- 1:28:57Speaker 5: he wasn't he didn't pan out the way that they
- 1:28:59Speaker 5: had hoped. But it feels like, I mean they've had
- 1:29:03Speaker 5: Kareem Hunt like what seventeen different times, right where he's
- 1:29:06Speaker 5: on the free agent market and all of a Suddy
- 1:29:07Speaker 5: Hey come on back and he all of a sudden
- 1:29:10Speaker 5: has great games here and there, I think this might
- 1:29:12Speaker 5: be the most talented running back that they've had in
- 1:29:14Speaker 5: a long time. And you throw that in with Patrick
- 1:29:17Speaker 5: Mahomes and obviously Andy Reid, you know, as the brains
- 1:29:22Speaker 5: behind the whole thing. Yeah, it could be a big
- 1:29:25Speaker 5: year for him, Yeah, without a doubt.
- 1:29:26Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: And they cleared a lot of cap space. They cut
- 1:29:30Speaker 2: Jawan Taylor to clear twenty million, a couple of guys
- 1:29:33Speaker 2: reworked deals. Travis Kelcey looks like he's going to go
- 1:29:36Speaker 2: back to Kansas City, but probably not near the salary
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: that he was at previously. And so the Chiefs, you know,
- 1:29:44Speaker 2: leave it to them, like, hey, we stunk for one year,
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: but if we do things the right way with the
- 1:29:50Speaker 2: quarterback that we have and the head coach that we have,
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: we should be able to get back on top pretty quickly.
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: And this is a move suggesting we're going to try
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: to get back on top pretty quickly. We don't know
- 1:30:02Speaker 2: the money as at this point, but that's a statement.
- 1:30:06Speaker 2: That's a statement to start this entire process. The Kansas
- 1:30:09Speaker 2: City Chiefs, after their first bad year in memory, have
- 1:30:15Speaker 2: taken our guy Ken Walker right out of the Tampa fight.
- 1:30:19Speaker 2: I hope it's ten years of billion dollars. Yeh, a
- 1:30:23Speaker 2: billion dollars hurt against the cap.
- 1:30:25Speaker 6: I will say they are lucky though that Travis Kelsey's
- 1:30:27Speaker 6: in a position that he doesn't really probably need to
- 1:30:29Speaker 6: play for the money, considering he's engaged to a billionaire.
- 1:30:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it will take less for sure.
- 1:30:35Speaker 6: So yeah, he'd be like, yeah, no, I'm good. As
- 1:30:36Speaker 6: long as you're going to do stuff to win the
- 1:30:38Speaker 6: Super Bowl, let's do it.
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So there you go that we don't
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: have to think about that any longer, I suppose. And
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: so what is the move Now? We know Charbonnay's not
- 1:30:49Speaker 2: going to be healthy enough to start the season, and
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: we also know Ken Walker's not going to be back.
- 1:30:53Speaker 2: So what is the countermove from the Seahawks. Again, I
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: don't think we're going to hear anything soon. Don't worry
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: about it. Don't get your guts twisted in and not
- 1:31:06Speaker 2: John Schneider probably gonna play out this process, wait for
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: the first wave or two of free agents to pass.
- 1:31:11Speaker 2: I'd be stunned if the counter move is Travis eten
- 1:31:14Speaker 2: to just go to the next best free agent. If
- 1:31:16Speaker 2: you're going to do that, then why not keep your
- 1:31:18Speaker 2: own guy that you know and could use, So I
- 1:31:23Speaker 2: don't think that's going to be the move. I'm pretty
- 1:31:26Speaker 2: sure they'll draft somebody on Day number two of the
- 1:31:28Speaker 2: draft to play running back, and I'm pretty sure they'll
- 1:31:31Speaker 2: add a veteran free agent through this process as well,
- 1:31:36Speaker 2: and that's probably going to be your running back tandem
- 1:31:38Speaker 2: heading into next year. But I don't think they're going
- 1:31:41Speaker 2: to spend a lot of money, and I don't think
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: we'll find that information out in the next couple of days.
- 1:31:46Speaker 2: Think it'll probably be Thursday at the era.
- 1:31:48Speaker 6: Michael Sean Degar just posted Canaan reportedly getting a deal
- 1:31:51Speaker 6: up worth up to forty five million over three years.
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:31:56Speaker 5: TM Millie here, Yeah more than yeah. Yeah, that's a
- 1:32:02Speaker 5: good it's a good chunk of change.
- 1:32:03Speaker 2: Good for him him. He ran, He ran well there
- 1:32:06Speaker 2: at the end.
- 1:32:06Speaker 5: And he's showed spurts of it obviously in his entire time.
- 1:32:09Speaker 5: But it's going to be interesting to see what happens
- 1:32:13Speaker 5: when Andy Reid gets him. And I mean, you can
- 1:32:16Speaker 5: never focus solely on the run game when Patrick Mahomes
- 1:32:18Speaker 5: is the one taking the snaps, right, So it's I
- 1:32:21Speaker 5: would have to think he's pretty excited. I bet everybody
- 1:32:23Speaker 5: in Kansas City and including Ken Walker, pretty excited about
- 1:32:27Speaker 5: the whole situation. But yeah, when it comes to the
- 1:32:29Speaker 5: Seahawks and filling that void, I mean, I think most
- 1:32:32Speaker 5: people are going to have even if it's kind of
- 1:32:35Speaker 5: weighted with baby breath, I think that everybody's going to
- 1:32:38Speaker 5: be thinking, all right, John'll figure it out and he
- 1:32:40Speaker 5: will not going to enter the season well, we're just
- 1:32:43Speaker 5: going to play with ten guys until Charbon is healthy.
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. They're going to do something.
- 1:32:48Speaker 5: But it is interesting because the way in which K
- 1:32:51Speaker 5: nine finished his tenure here as a Seahawk, it's not
- 1:32:55Speaker 5: going to be easy to replace that. I mean, I
- 1:32:57Speaker 5: think you can figure out a way to do it,
- 1:32:59Speaker 5: and hope to do it with maybe a veteran player
- 1:33:01Speaker 5: here or there, somebody that's you know, hasn't been resigned
- 1:33:05Speaker 5: to their team.
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: But we'll see. It's going to be interesting to see
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: how that running back room looks come training camp. Yeah,
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: I mean, the free agents don't exactly leap out at
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: you that are going to be available out there. I mean,
- 1:33:17Speaker 2: ETI en I like, and I could see him stepping
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: right in there. But if Walker's going for fifteen at
- 1:33:23Speaker 2: the end's probably going to go for twelve and at
- 1:33:28Speaker 2: the minimum, So I'm not sure why you wouldn't just
- 1:33:31Speaker 2: pay your own guy. So that probably doesn't feel like
- 1:33:33Speaker 2: a candidate to me. Rico Dowdell, I think is a
- 1:33:37Speaker 2: punishing runner who's better than what the Cowboys realized. And
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: I think the Panthers were the beneficiary of the Cowboys
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: mistrust in Dowdell. You can bring him in. I think
- 1:33:48Speaker 2: he's a capable guy to put in a job share.
- 1:33:52Speaker 2: He's your power guy, he's your between the tackles guy.
- 1:33:54Speaker 2: He can also catch the ball out of the backfield.
- 1:33:57Speaker 2: Certainly's going to come cheaper than either Walker or at
- 1:33:59Speaker 2: ten in this process. I don't really like Rashad White
- 1:34:02Speaker 2: from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I think he's got talent,
- 1:34:05Speaker 2: I just don't really think that he's all that smart
- 1:34:07Speaker 2: of a runner. Kenneth Gainwell to me, is a tough guy,
- 1:34:12Speaker 2: but he's not a Walker esque replacement. I know Aaron
- 1:34:17Speaker 2: Rodgers loved him from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tyler al Jeer, no,
- 1:34:21Speaker 2: thank you, just way too slow. JK. Dobbins, way too injured.
- 1:34:26Speaker 2: Nick Chubb even more injured Brian Robinson, no, thank you.
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: Pacheco is also a free agent. He is a very
- 1:34:33Speaker 2: hard runner, but that's really his attribute is that he
- 1:34:36Speaker 2: just does not stop trying to run people over. Raem
- 1:34:40Speaker 2: Mostert is fast but old, and Austin Eckler is slow
- 1:34:44Speaker 2: but old.
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, So.
- 1:34:47Speaker 2: It's not a great group. But that's not the only avenue.
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: You also have. As we mentioned last week when we
- 1:34:53Speaker 2: were doing the running back position, you also have that
- 1:34:56Speaker 2: option of going out there and trading. You know, if
- 1:34:59Speaker 2: running back value really is down and you find an
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: overcrowded backfield out there and you want to flip a
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: fourth fifth rounder for some established veteran with a locked
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: in salary, that's also an option for John. Of course,
- 1:35:13Speaker 2: keep in mind you only have four draft picks with
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: which to work with this year, so trading one of those,
- 1:35:19Speaker 2: even if it is the last one that you have
- 1:35:22Speaker 2: for a veteran running back, does come at a little
- 1:35:24Speaker 2: bit of a cost in an area that you don't
- 1:35:26Speaker 2: have a lot of depth in. So yeah, I mean,
- 1:35:30Speaker 2: they know, they know they know the market, and they
- 1:35:33Speaker 2: know that they didn't go with Walker, that they were
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: going to have to face a market you know that
- 1:35:39Speaker 2: might be bereft of another ken Walker type. That said,
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: it's very clear that we weren't willing to pay fifteen
- 1:35:46Speaker 2: million dollars a year for this player. We'll take our
- 1:35:49Speaker 2: chances elsewhere. It's interesting. Now I agree with it. At
- 1:35:53Speaker 2: the end of the day, I agree with that. Yeah,
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: it'll be interesting.
- 1:35:57Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:35:57Speaker 2: I mean, I I too.
- 1:35:59Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not change saying where the number was at.
- 1:36:02Speaker 5: I was thinking fourteen would be more than what I
- 1:36:04Speaker 5: would want to pay, So fifteen obviously still falls in
- 1:36:07Speaker 5: that category. But well, boy, you're sitting and you think
- 1:36:10Speaker 5: about the brain trust that is Andy Reid, right, If
- 1:36:13Speaker 5: Andy Reid is thinking I think he's worth fifteen, then
- 1:36:17Speaker 5: it makes me second guess whether why why was I
- 1:36:21Speaker 5: thinking he isn't right? I mean, that's one of the
- 1:36:23Speaker 5: better offensive trained eyes that's in the NFL right now,
- 1:36:26Speaker 5: So it makes me kind of wonder a little. I mean,
- 1:36:29Speaker 5: you think of Isaiah p Checko, guy that was with
- 1:36:31Speaker 5: them basically, who's his market value is probably a third
- 1:36:35Speaker 5: of that, and yet they're thinking he's on his way out,
- 1:36:38Speaker 5: and that's like the fourth best free agent. Now, you're right,
- 1:36:43Speaker 5: you have the draft with four picks in it where
- 1:36:45Speaker 5: you can get something, and then you have other trades,
- 1:36:47Speaker 5: and there's obviously somebody on that list that either you know,
- 1:36:51Speaker 5: maybe Seahawks wouldn't like, or Seahawks fans wouldn't like, but
- 1:36:54Speaker 5: that John Schneider and company do like.
- 1:36:57Speaker 2: It's just interesting, boy, I'll tell you what.
- 1:36:59Speaker 5: It's just When and when a guy that has thought
- 1:37:01Speaker 5: of as highly as Andy Reid says I'll take your guy.
- 1:37:05Speaker 5: I'll pay him beyond what you were willing to pay him,
- 1:37:08Speaker 5: that does make me step back for a second.
- 1:37:10Speaker 2: I'll be interested to hear what Mike Holmgreen thinks. Well,
- 1:37:14Speaker 2: I mean, if you have a giant, gaping hole and
- 1:37:16Speaker 2: you are desperate to get back where I think they're
- 1:37:18Speaker 2: a little more desperate than what the Seahawks are, and
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: that's I think that they're tired of having a running
- 1:37:24Speaker 2: back they can't trust. So that would be my guess,
- 1:37:27Speaker 2: is that they were willing to spend a little bit
- 1:37:29Speaker 2: more money on a position that they just haven't been
- 1:37:32Speaker 2: able to rely upon here in the last couple of years.
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: And that's always projecular. I hadn't been healthy and he's
- 1:37:37Speaker 2: not that dynamic.
- 1:37:39Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's what we've been talking about too, is
- 1:37:40Speaker 6: that we thought teams would overpay for Walker. We just
- 1:37:43Speaker 6: didn't really want the Seahawks to overpay for him. I mean,
- 1:37:45Speaker 6: I thought twelve million was a good price. It's yeah,
- 1:37:48Speaker 6: three years worth up to forty five. He's the highest
- 1:37:51Speaker 6: paid free agent or it is the highest paid free
- 1:37:53Speaker 6: agent deal for running back in NFL history, and he
- 1:37:56Speaker 6: is apparently guaranteed twenty eight two point seven million.
- 1:38:01Speaker 2: Are They're flying and fast and furious. This is Adam
- 1:38:03Speaker 2: Schefter sitting on a stack of things that have been
- 1:38:06Speaker 2: pre tampered with, and now he's trying to figure out,
- 1:38:09Speaker 2: all right, how much time do I need to give
- 1:38:12Speaker 2: in between tweets without revealing the tampering violations that have
- 1:38:19Speaker 2: taken place, but also without somebody beating me to the punch.
- 1:38:24Speaker 2: So they're just rolling out right now. Jalen Watson is
- 1:38:28Speaker 2: leading the Kansas City Chiefs. He's going to the Los
- 1:38:30Speaker 2: Angeles Rams on a three year deal. So the Rams
- 1:38:33Speaker 2: are ain't going to end up with Watson and McDuffie.
- 1:38:37Speaker 2: So the koug and the dog that were in the
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs Backfield and the Rams are going to
- 1:38:43Speaker 2: end up with both of them as JSN defense I suppose.
- 1:38:48Speaker 2: And now Jalen Phillips got a lot more than I
- 1:38:51Speaker 2: think people thought he was going to get. The pass
- 1:38:53Speaker 2: rusher has left the Philadelphia Eagles four years, one hundred
- 1:38:59Speaker 2: and twenty million dollars thirty million a year to go
- 1:39:03Speaker 2: to the Carolina Panthers. So Jalen Phillips not sticking around Philadelphia.
- 1:39:09Speaker 2: He is now a Carolina Panther. So they're coming fast
- 1:39:12Speaker 2: and furious. Now, welcome to Tampa Fest. One last thing
- 1:39:16Speaker 2: to close out our show. Next Sports Radio ninety three
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