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- 0:16Speaker 1: Let's get straight into it.
- 0:17Speaker 2: So the brain fact of today, neurofibullary tangles. We're going
- 0:22Speaker 2: to talk about this molecular mechanism that goes on behind
- 0:25Speaker 2: these tangles. Now, and before I go into it, I mean,
- 0:28Speaker 2: I always get great feedback. Everyone fucking loves the brain facts.
- 0:31Speaker 2: That's like one of the main dams I get is
- 0:33Speaker 2: brain facts. But it's a bit like tedious and science y,
- 0:36Speaker 2: and I understand that some people are here just to
- 0:38Speaker 2: listen to more of like the psychology side of things.
- 0:41Speaker 2: So if that is you maybe fast forward it too
- 0:43Speaker 2: roughly like the ten minute or eleven minute mark ish,
- 0:47Speaker 2: if you're not into like hacktic science and like sell
- 0:50Speaker 2: anatomy and shit like that. I fucking live and breathe
- 0:53Speaker 2: it and thrive on it. But yeah, little disclaimer now,
- 0:57Speaker 2: like I mentioned before, when it comes to amyloid plaques
- 1:01Speaker 2: in the brain for Alzheimer's.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Disease, it's a hypothesis.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Okay, there's a very heavy theory that this is the
- 1:10Speaker 2: cause of Alzheimer's disease. But what we're not sure about
- 1:13Speaker 2: is is it just heavily involved or is it the cause. Now,
- 1:17Speaker 2: another hypothesis which happens alongside these amyloid plaques is the
- 1:23Speaker 2: neurofibillary tangles and it's called the Tao hypothesis.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Okay, this one about the neurofibrillary tangles.
- 1:31Speaker 2: If you have studied Alzheimer's disease, anything around neuroscience and
- 1:35Speaker 2: I of that, you've definitely heard of the Tau hypothesis.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go into it.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Neurofibrillary tangles. It's kind of like these plaques that I
- 1:44Speaker 2: was talking about in the sense that it's things that
- 1:45Speaker 2: clump together.
- 1:46Speaker 1: These are slightly it's made up of.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Something different, but it's these clumps of tangles, and they
- 1:51Speaker 2: happen due to the misfolding of a protein called tao.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Okay, and this happens to a different reason to amyloid plarks.
- 2:00Speaker 2: What we're dealing with here is something called a prion
- 2:03Speaker 2: where you have a protein and proteins are kind of
- 2:07Speaker 2: coiled up and packaged in a very specific conformation, like
- 2:10Speaker 2: very specific way, right, And if it's not folded properly,
- 2:17Speaker 2: it's a misfolded protein and that is called a prion.
- 2:20Speaker 2: And the prion is what then goes on to cause
- 2:24Speaker 2: damage through a whole series of events, right, it's that prion.
- 2:28Speaker 2: It's the misfolded protein. For whatever reason, something's gone on
- 2:31Speaker 2: in the folding of the protein. And then fucking how
- 2:34Speaker 2: you going, We've got issues.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Now.
- 2:37Speaker 2: The TAE hypothesis is saying that Alzheimer's disease is caused
- 2:41Speaker 2: by the misfolding of the TAW protein. So what is
- 2:44Speaker 2: the role of TAW Normally, so within the cytoskeleton of
- 2:50Speaker 2: the neuron. So that's the structure of the neuron. So
- 2:53Speaker 2: imagine that neurons have their own little version of the skeleton. Right,
- 2:57Speaker 2: So you've got like the so much, which is like
- 2:59Speaker 2: the body of the cell. You've got all these extensions
- 3:01Speaker 2: that reach out. You've got the axon and the dendrites
- 3:04Speaker 2: and all these bits that reach out to be able
- 3:05Speaker 2: to connect to other cells. I'm kind of like you
- 3:07Speaker 2: should see my hand movements trying to explain it to you,
- 3:10Speaker 2: even though you could just hear my voice. Now, that
- 3:13Speaker 2: neuron has a kind of skeleton, and it's called a cytoskeleton,
- 3:17Speaker 2: and it's inside the neuron obviously, and it helps maintain
- 3:21Speaker 2: the structure of the cell, but it also helps transport
- 3:24Speaker 2: this cytoskeleton skeletal structure within the cells, helps transport nutrients
- 3:28Speaker 2: across that cell to keep it, you know, to keep
- 3:32Speaker 2: it running smoothly. And we've got something called microtubules within
- 3:36Speaker 2: this cytoskeleton, microtubules, and these form part of the structure
- 3:40Speaker 2: and the integrity of the neuron. Like I said, it's
- 3:42Speaker 2: the microtubules that help transport nutrients across the cell, helps
- 3:46Speaker 2: maintain its shape and its structure. And these microtubules have
- 3:50Speaker 2: the ability to stretch out longer or to get shorter,
- 3:54Speaker 2: and when it shortens, it can fall apart. And this
- 3:58Speaker 2: is known as the actual term for it is a
- 4:01Speaker 2: microtubule catastrophe.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Loll love how dramatic that is.
- 4:05Speaker 2: And it is the role of Tao, this Tau protein
- 4:09Speaker 2: to prevent it from falling apart when it gets shortened.
- 4:12Speaker 2: So it allows for this lengthening and shortening, but it
- 4:15Speaker 2: prevents this microtubule catastrophe from happening. So if Tau was
- 4:20Speaker 2: not present another thing that Tao does. If Tao was
- 4:23Speaker 2: not there, these microtubules would not hold together, so they
- 4:27Speaker 2: would just float off and they wouldn't have this specific
- 4:30Speaker 2: structure where there's where all the parts that make up
- 4:33Speaker 2: the microtubule that when you look at diagrams off it. It
- 4:35Speaker 2: looks like all these little beads or bubbles that are
- 4:37Speaker 2: stuck together, and it's the Tau protein that keeps that
- 4:41Speaker 2: tube of bubbles stuck together. If the towel wasn't there,
- 4:44Speaker 2: wouldn't hold together. Now there's a protein called Tao protein
- 4:48Speaker 2: kinase one. It's just another protein and it phosphorylates tao.
- 4:54Speaker 2: When you hear something, when I talk about phosphorylation or phosphorulates,
- 4:57Speaker 2: it's basically adding a phosphate group.
- 5:00Speaker 1: To something else. Okay, something is getting phosphate group added
- 5:04Speaker 1: to it and.
- 5:05Speaker 2: It's turning it into So this phosphorylation occurs, and then
- 5:09Speaker 2: Tau protein kinase turns Tao into something called tau.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Phosphate because it has a phosphate group added to it.
- 5:16Speaker 2: When Tao is in its phosphorylated state, it's teu phosphate.
- 5:21Speaker 2: How many times do I want to say taophosphate. It
- 5:23Speaker 2: has the ability to stabilize these microtubules. The issue in
- 5:29Speaker 2: this whole Tau hypothesis is when it gets hyperphosphorylated. That's
- 5:34Speaker 2: when there's too much phosphorylation going on. So it's not
- 5:37Speaker 2: going to do its job and it can't stabilize the
- 5:39Speaker 2: microtribules because just too.
- 5:41Speaker 1: Much of it has gone down.
- 5:42Speaker 2: And in Alzheimer's disease, for some reason, these tau proteins
- 5:45Speaker 2: are hyper phosphorylated, which means that it's just happening too much,
- 5:50Speaker 2: so that whole process leads to the failure of the microtubules.
- 5:54Speaker 2: And what causes this, So what they're thing thinking what
- 6:00Speaker 2: it's believed based.
- 6:02Speaker 1: On what we've found, what scientists have found.
- 6:04Speaker 2: It's believed that inflammation of some sort activates that tau
- 6:09Speaker 2: protein kinase, the one that adds the phosphate group, but
- 6:14Speaker 2: more so than normal. So instead of just activating it
- 6:17Speaker 2: to do its job, it hyperactivates it, which then causes hyperphosphorylation.
- 6:22Speaker 2: And because of this, the microtribules start to break apart
- 6:25Speaker 2: or collapse, and it has lost or it starts to
- 6:28Speaker 2: lose its integrity and its structure. Then bits of tau protein,
- 6:32Speaker 2: which are now hyperphosphorylated, detach from those microtubules.
- 6:37Speaker 1: They just float off, and.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Then they clump together. And these clumps of detached tau
- 6:42Speaker 2: proteins which are hyperfosphorylated, are called neurofibrillary tangles. Now the
- 6:47Speaker 2: microtubules that are left can't actually do their normal function.
- 6:51Speaker 2: They can't transport nutrients, and they can't do cell trafficking,
- 6:54Speaker 2: which is needed for the cells to function. And these
- 6:58Speaker 2: tangles that are formed to get spread throughout the cell,
- 7:01Speaker 2: in the inside of the cell. So with amyloid pluques,
- 7:04Speaker 2: it's outside the cell structure. With tao, it happens in
- 7:08Speaker 2: and outside, but definitely inside the cell structure. And these
- 7:12Speaker 2: they form these large aggregates called neurofibrillary tangles, and they
- 7:17Speaker 2: also induce cell death. Okay, they can also spread, like
- 7:22Speaker 2: I said, outside of the cell, and when they're outside
- 7:25Speaker 2: the cell, they induce inflammation because of the effect that
- 7:28Speaker 2: they have on glile cells on the brain.
- 7:30Speaker 1: So we know that glile cells.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Are like the supporting structure structural cells to the neurons.
- 7:35Speaker 2: So for every neuron you've got eighty to one hundred
- 7:38Speaker 2: billion neurons in your brain. For every neuron, you've got
- 7:41Speaker 2: about ten glile cells. So there's a fucking lot of them, right,
- 7:45Speaker 2: And when there's inflammation outside of the cell, you activate
- 7:49Speaker 2: certain glile cells which then release these pro inflammatory mediators,
- 7:54Speaker 2: which then lead to more inflammation, which then leads to
- 7:57Speaker 2: the activation this more inflammation will lead to the avation
- 8:00Speaker 2: of tau protein CANSE one, and then that leads to hyperfosphorylation,
- 8:04Speaker 2: and then the.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Vicious cycle continues.
- 8:06Speaker 2: So that in a nutshell, is neurofibrillary tangles and how
- 8:09Speaker 2: they detached and why.
- 8:11Speaker 1: But it's important to note.
- 8:12Speaker 2: That that's not the only inflammation that's going to set
- 8:15Speaker 2: off this activation of tau protein kinase one which leads
- 8:18Speaker 2: to this phosphorylation. There's all kinds of inflammation, not just
- 8:22Speaker 2: the one I mentioned. All kinds of inflammation can cause
- 8:25Speaker 2: this whole cascading effect. Yeah, good times. Thought that was
- 8:30Speaker 2: interesting if you study the brain. Hopefully that gave you
- 8:33Speaker 2: a
- 8:35Speaker 1: I don't know, good explanation of that if you're interested.