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- 0:33Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? What's up?
- 0:36Speaker 2: Y'all?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Y'all know what's your favorite girl? Friend of five? Oh foo,
- 0:39bring you another episode of Black Girl Interrupted. Is your girl? Ash?
- 0:43I hope everyone is having a beautiful day, Happy Wednesday,
- 0:47Happy home day, babe. We are almost oh to the weekend, baby,
- 0:52We're just two days away from the weekend, weekend, weekend weekend.
- 0:56But anyway, I just want to pop in real quick
- 1:00and give y'all another beautiful episode again as I stayed
- 1:03it last night. So for the whole month of December,
- 1:06we are talking about grief everything grief. How do you
- 1:10cope with losing a parent, how do your cope with
- 1:12lose in a spouse, how do you cope with losing
- 1:15a sibling, a child, and a grandparent. And then we'll
- 1:18also get into a discussion of what is grief and
- 1:21how do you handle it? How do you deal with
- 1:23it when you're faced with it? So anyone that is
- 1:28new too Black Girl in talk the podcast. Before I
- 1:30get started, I always do my mental health check in.
- 1:35I do these mental health check ins. As I stayed
- 1:37it last night, It's imperative that I come in and
- 1:39I checked the temperature suicide is at an all time
- 1:43high in the black community. It is the third leading
- 1:46cause of death in Black men under the age of
- 1:50fifty five. It only takes a moment for you to
- 1:55stop in and send somebody a text and just say, hey,
- 1:58I'm thinking about you, I love you, I hope you're
- 2:00doing well, because you never know what that text could
- 2:03do to a person. You just don't understand. A person
- 2:06could be a bullet awake, a person could be a
- 2:08drink awake, a person could be a drive away from
- 2:13ending their life, and just to know that they're loved,
- 2:18they're appreciated, that they're wanting, could really make a difference.
- 2:21I only speak from experience because I've been on that
- 2:25other end. Hum, Hey, it's as happy hump day girl,
- 2:30Happy hump Day. I hope you're having a beautiful, beautiful
- 2:32week so far. Thank you for stopping in, Thank you
- 2:36for coming to hanging out with you big Sis tonight.
- 2:39But yes, but before we get into tonight's conversation again,
- 2:42I always want to do my mental health check ins
- 2:45anyone that is familiar with my show, I always play
- 2:50something encouraging, something inspirational, something empowering, something uplifting, just to
- 2:54let you know that I love you, and to let
- 2:56you know that I'm thinking about you and that I'm
- 2:58praying for you and praying that whatever mountain that is
- 3:02in front of you, I pray that you're able to
- 3:04get over it. I want you to know that you're
- 3:07still needed on this side, you still have purpose, you
- 3:10are loved, and I see you, I hear you, I
- 3:13feel you, and most importantly, I understand you. So my
- 3:18sister says, she says, I'm okay today. She said, I'm
- 3:20going through some challenges this week, but I'm standing strong
- 3:23for now. Let me say this to yousis feel what
- 3:30you need to feel. If it's grief, feeling, if you're angry,
- 3:35be angry, if you're sad, feel those feelings. It's okay
- 3:39to not be okay. A lot of days, I just
- 3:42don't want you to lay in it. I want you
- 3:44to understand that this only lasts for a moment, and
- 3:50then I need you to get up. I need you
- 3:53to shake it off, and I need you to own
- 3:56who you are and understand that what you're feeling is okay.
- 4:02But again, it's like I said, I don't want you
- 4:04to lay in it. I want you to get up.
- 4:06I want you to know that you have a circumference
- 4:08or circle of people around you that love you, that
- 4:12are walking with you, that understand those challenges that you're
- 4:15going through. You understand. So don't ever feel like you're alone.
- 4:19Don't ever feel like you can't reach out, Never feel
- 4:22like you have to go on this journey by yourself,
- 4:25because you have people around you that, again, they understand,
- 4:28and they're willing to walk with you. They're willing to
- 4:30hold your hand as we all walk on this journey.
- 4:34We're all experiencing challenges, we're all going through something right now.
- 4:39But it's a matter of us getting back together, us
- 4:43putting it back together, us pulling those pieces and putting
- 4:48and making them fit. You understand, even on the days
- 4:52that get rough, something in you has to motivate you
- 4:56to get up and to push through. Oh my god,
- 5:00there's my brother. Oh my god. I'm not gonna get
- 5:04emotional tonight, I promise, but there is my brother. I
- 5:08love you so much. Let's get a ga. I am
- 5:11so so so ecstatic to see you. My brother says,
- 5:16there she go, my sister, Ashley. He says, hope all
- 5:18is well with you and your family always love and
- 5:21respect and any love that's given is always returned. So
- 5:25I love you, brother, I respect you, I appreciate you,
- 5:28I adore you. Thank you for just always loving and
- 5:31supporting me regardless of where I'm at in my stage
- 5:34of life. But I appreciate you. I see we have
- 5:40some new people that are tuning in. Thank you, thank you,
- 5:42Thank you' all for coming in and loving on your girl. Man,
- 5:45this feels so amazing. But tonight's conversation is what is
- 5:52the hard? How do you deal with losing a spouse again?
- 5:56This is December, we are rounding out the end of
- 5:59the year. In this it's the heaviest time of the
- 6:01year for a lot of people. Grief is real, Grief exists,
- 6:08But most importantly, there's no timeline on grief. Never let
- 6:13anyone rush you through the process. You understand, because there
- 6:17are people out there that say, oh, well, you know,
- 6:19it's okay, Well we just gotta do this. Everyone grieves differently,
- 6:24so I want people to be kind in this season.
- 6:28You understand, I'm not gonna get emotional because y'all know
- 6:31I am so passionate about the conversations that we have
- 6:35here on Black Girl. Interrupted, So forgive me for being
- 6:39the biggest crow baby ever. I it just it is
- 6:42what it is. So man, I love you, I adore you,
- 6:50and I'm so proud of you. I am ecstatic for you.
- 6:56So I go on and continue and say, people are
- 7:02not just the loss of a loved one, maybe the
- 7:04loss of a job, maybe the loss of a friendship,
- 7:08maybe the loss of themselves. You know, maybe they're grieving
- 7:12they're all selves as the new them you know, emerges.
- 7:17So I ask you please be kind to be gentle
- 7:21to people in this season because you just again, you
- 7:24just don't know what people are going through. You don't
- 7:27know what people are grieving. So again, most importantly, I'm
- 7:30gonna repeat this again, stop telling people to get over it,
- 7:35because grief hits people differently. Some people it may take
- 7:39years before they finally break. Some people grief right at
- 7:43the moment the situation occurs, or the moment a person passes.
- 7:47We don't know. But I ask that you just be
- 7:50kinds of people. Just love on people you understand, pick
- 7:54them up, encourage them, uplift them, because those tables will
- 7:58eventually turn and it could be you on the receiving end.
- 8:04You understand, and you're gonna want someone to be kind
- 8:06to you. You're gonna want someone to be empathetic to you,
- 8:09You're gonna want someone to extend grace to you. So
- 8:13I ask in this moment, in this season, please be
- 8:17kind because the holidays get heavy for a lot of people.
- 8:21I can say for me, the holidays are difficult for me.
- 8:26Ever since I lost my dad, I lost my grandmother
- 8:29in ninety eight. My grandmother passed the day after Christmas,
- 8:31So the holidays have never been the same for me.
- 8:36So I encourage you. If you know someone that's grieving,
- 8:39if you know someone that's lost someone, if you know
- 8:41someone that's experiencing loss for you know, let me back up,
- 8:45if you know someone that's experiencing the holidays and this
- 8:48is their first year of the loss of their loved one,
- 8:51maybe the loss of their job, maybe the I don't know,
- 8:55but it takes zero to be kind. So I just
- 8:59ask you or be kind to people in this season.
- 9:02You understand, you know, whether it's been ten years since
- 9:05the loss, whether it's been thirty years, whether it's been
- 9:07two weeks, whether it's been two months, two years, it
- 9:10doesn't matter. Grief never goes away. The emptiness in your
- 9:15heart never goes away. Yes, we move on, Yes we
- 9:19get up and we say, you know what, just because
- 9:22their life and then we have to keep going. That
- 9:24doesn't mean you can't grieve that. Because it hurts to
- 9:28lose a loved one. It really does. Whether it's a mother,
- 9:32whether it's a father, whether it's a sister, whether it's
- 9:34a cousin or uncle or aunt, a grandmother, a child,
- 9:38a spouse. Because losing a spouse is m it affects
- 9:46people differently. Yeah, you may have known that they were sick,
- 9:52but that doesn't lessen the pain. They may have left suddenly,
- 9:56that doesn't lessen the pain. Grief is grief. So we
- 10:04got a few comments. Hey's sus I love you, I
- 10:11love you back, I love you, sugar. Hey, my big sister.
- 10:16There's my big sister. I love you. My sister says.
- 10:19It's real heavy. She said, I'm struggling real bad right now.
- 10:22But God, and let me tell you, sus mm hmm,
- 10:31grief is never an easy conversation to have. You know what,
- 10:35I'm gonna save the mental health check in for the end.
- 10:37I'm gonna say the let's let's just jump into tonight's
- 10:40conversation because there there there are quite a few people
- 10:44that are coming in. So welcome to Welcome back to
- 10:49Black Girl Interrupted the podcast, or for my new viewers,
- 10:52welcome to black Girl Interrupted the podcast. I am your
- 10:55go to podcast where we talk about everything. This is
- 10:58a safe space. This is a space where we could
- 11:00come in and I just encourage you to love. We
- 11:03have uncomfortable conversations. We address situations that some people might
- 11:07be scared to tap into. But I'm not afraid. We
- 11:13are respectful over here all Black Girl Interrupted. We love,
- 11:16we encourage, we empower, but most important that we uplift. Okay,
- 11:21this is a safe space. So anything you're discussing here,
- 11:24you're gonna be, You're gonna be. It's gonna be received lovingly.
- 11:28You understand. Regardless if we agree, we disagree, whatever the
- 11:32situation is. I'm always embrace you with love because I'm
- 11:36learning and y'all are teaching me. So I appreciate that
- 11:40I can now be a student instead of being a
- 11:42teacher all the time. So we got some comments. Oh,
- 11:48my sister says, unexpected death. She said, Jesus, my brother,
- 11:58let's get a ga says, I'm not going in. We're
- 12:00always here to support you in your vision. We all
- 12:02go through things, he said, crashing out. It's very real.
- 12:05I have no relationship with my son for the soor
- 12:07reason of his mother. It's tough, and that's what I mean,
- 12:12the grief. You're grieving, the loss of a relationship with
- 12:17a child, a mother. You know. Juel, Let's get a
- 12:26ga say he's praying for you, sis, So here we go.
- 12:36This was a kind of a This was a topic
- 12:40that I really wanted to stray away from because three
- 12:46of my closest loved ones have lost their spouse. Let
- 12:55me let me Because before I even did this, I
- 12:59had to reach out to someone and I asked, how
- 13:04do you feel about me having this conversation knowing that
- 13:08this person is on the end of losing a spouse.
- 13:12And she said, you know, sister, talk about it. So
- 13:17I M I hope tonight I make you proud. I
- 13:27know these are wounds that we we we we feel
- 13:32like they've healed, but it's a it's like a trigger.
- 13:37So I don't want to trigger anyone tonight if you've
- 13:40lost a spouse. Oh, but this is a conversation that
- 13:48we have to have. M h m hmm. Let me
- 13:58let me really kind of take this in a moment. Yeah,
- 14:07all right, y'all know, I'm not scared to have this conversation,
- 14:11but I also have to be mindful in this topic.
- 14:21You know, even last night with grief. You have to
- 14:24be delicate with this because grief. We don't like that,
- 14:31we don't want to experience, but we do. We don't
- 14:34want to deal with it. We don't want to go
- 14:36through it, but we have to. And this is a
- 14:39conversation that we have to have because we are all
- 14:46going to transition one day, and like I said last night,
- 14:53some get to experience true love for a long time,
- 15:00some don't get it at all, some get it for
- 15:03a brief moment. But we're all gonna experience this. Having
- 15:10to talk, having to sit down with your spouse, your parents,
- 15:14your children and talk about death is never easy. But
- 15:20I had to have this conversation with my husband. Oh
- 15:29I got it, I got it. I got this. Many
- 15:34of you know, or some don't know. My husband was
- 15:36diagnosed September twenty fifth with stage two prostate cancer. So
- 15:43the first thing that came to my mind was, oh,
- 15:45my god, my husband's gonna die. Because when you hear
- 15:49the word cancer, sometimes death comes behind it. So we
- 15:55had to sit down and we had to start putting
- 15:57everything in order. We had to put our ducks in
- 16:00a role. Although I didn't want to have the conversation,
- 16:03I had to because I may go before him or
- 16:08he may go before me. But we have to make preparations.
- 16:12We have to sort through our affairs. We have to
- 16:15decipher who's this, who's that, the children, the grand babies.
- 16:21We have to include everybody in that, the siblings. You know,
- 16:25if we go before our parents. We have to sit
- 16:28down and we have to have that conversation because we
- 16:30have to get our affairs in order. Because the last
- 16:33thing you want to deal with when you lose a
- 16:37spouse is the financial hardship that comes behind it. So
- 16:43we had to sit down and we had to have
- 16:44this conversation. It hurt me because I was like, man,
- 16:49I don't even want to think about this. But he
- 16:50told me, he said, but we have to. He told me.
- 16:55I brought it to him and I was like, okay,
- 16:57we need to sit down and talk about it. He
- 16:58was like okay, and I was like, okay, well, let's
- 17:00pick a day in I just kind of let it go,
- 17:03and so he grabbed me and he said, you know what,
- 17:05he said, I we gotta sit down and we gotta
- 17:07have this conversation. And I cried, I said, because I don't.
- 17:12I don't wanna think about that. He said, but you know,
- 17:15eventually one of us is gonna go. I go before
- 17:20you or he goes before We don't know. But we
- 17:23gotta get our fans in order. So tonight's conversation is
- 17:27how do you deal with losing a spouse? So my
- 17:34silter says, no, all these wounds never heal, you just adapt.
- 17:37Or mm, that's that's that's so that's heavy. That's heavy.
- 18:02Say the wounds never heal, you just adapt. Hmm. Let
- 18:13me rull that back in. Y'all know this is heavy.
- 18:19But God, don't never give me a battle that I
- 18:21can't that I can't overcome. He never gives me a
- 18:25battle soul losing, losing our spouse? How does that feel?
- 18:39A question that I asked was what is the hardest
- 18:48part of losing a spouse? What would be the hardest part?
- 18:55I would say to me, is is the companionship. This
- 19:01is your person, this is someone you took vows with.
- 19:05This is someone that you said, I'm gonna love through
- 19:07sickness and hell till death to us part. So now
- 19:11the death part has arrived, and it's like from the
- 19:20people that I've spoken to, they told me, they say,
- 19:24I felt like I lost me a part of me
- 19:29because your spouse is your is your other half. That's
- 19:32your better half. You know what. Let me correct, that's
- 19:35your better half, your spouse, your partner, your clyde to
- 19:41the bonding or the bondy to the Clyde in a
- 19:45good way. Let me say that in a good way,
- 19:47in a good way. Y'all bet not be out here
- 19:49robbing no banks and stuff, but y'all get what I'm saying.
- 19:56And they went on to say, how do I go
- 20:03on from this? One told me.
- 20:11Speaker 3: That if they had to do life all over again,
- 20:15they would still choose them.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Yeah, my sul says, you don't deal with it. I
- 20:35promise you. You have to keep moving or you'll truly
- 20:37lose yourself in the midst of your grief. And I
- 20:40was told that. I was told that when their spouse passed,
- 20:48they didn't know if they were coming or going, because
- 20:51this was a person that they woke up to every day.
- 20:53This was a person they went to sleep to every day.
- 20:56This was a person that they used to hug and
- 20:58kiss as they walked out the door to go to work.
- 21:02And she said, I still sit by the door, and
- 21:06I still wait for him to walk through the door.
- 21:12I still sleep with him in the bed. This person
- 21:17had had their husband cremated. She said, he stays with
- 21:21me every night. She say, but I feel empty A
- 21:27lot of days, she says, I come home from work
- 21:32and it's silence, silence. I don't have anyone to cook
- 21:45for anymore. I don't have anyone to watch my favorite
- 21:51show with. I was also told financially, the financial hardship
- 22:03that comes along with losing your spouse is you go
- 22:08from living a particular life to maybe you have to downsize,
- 22:13maybe you have to cut back on some things because
- 22:17now it's gone from a two income households to now one.
- 22:24I told this a barrage of things that happen, but
- 22:29they couldn't just specifically say this is the hardest part
- 22:32of that's the hardest part. But they say they feel
- 22:38empty the home. The house doesn't feel like a home anymore.
- 22:46I was told that when they walk into their home
- 22:47it feels strange. It doesn't feel like they're home anymore
- 22:52because their maid is gone, their partner is gone. And
- 22:59I think about that with my husband when we had
- 23:04to sit down and we had to make preparations. We
- 23:08had to write out wills and how we want things designated.
- 23:12Should one of us go before the other. And that
- 23:16hurt me to have to think about that because I
- 23:19see this man every day. I lay down with this
- 23:23man every day. I wake up, I go to sleep,
- 23:25I laugh, I joke. We have a routine where we
- 23:29watch our shows on certain days. But again, I know
- 23:36this is a conversation that has to be had. My
- 23:44sister says, you lose a part of you you'll never
- 23:46get back. She said, Jesus, you struggle daily. And that's
- 23:53what I've been told, is that you have to. It's
- 24:03almost like I have to rewrite my story now, but
- 24:08I have to not include this person. But I say,
- 24:13you still put that person in your story because they
- 24:18were and still will always be a part of your story.
- 24:24So I made this. You know, we got everything together,
- 24:29We got our wheels and then I hugged them and
- 24:34I told them, I set.
- 24:37Speaker 4: Thank you for preparing me. You know, and he said, no,
- 24:43thank you for preparing me. He said, because now we
- 24:46have everything in order.
- 24:47Speaker 1: Now we don't have to worry about the financial we
- 24:51don't have to worry about people are getting over money
- 24:54and what's going to who, because we've already written it out,
- 25:00already designated who's gonna do this, who's gonna be in
- 25:03charge of that. And again, I know that this is
- 25:08difficult for us to have to sit down and have
- 25:09this conversation, but please know it has to be had
- 25:13because the last thing a widow or a widower wants
- 25:17to deal with is the financial struggles because nothing was
- 25:22put in place. Now you have family arguing and children
- 25:26arguing and saying, well, he told me, I can have this,
- 25:30and no one wants to deal with that. So I say,
- 25:34get your affairs in order right now, go ahead and
- 25:40make the preparations. I understand you don't want to do
- 25:44that because you don't want to think about it. But
- 25:48if your person, your spouse passes today or tomorrow, then
- 25:53what not only are you left to deal with the
- 25:58grief of losing your partner, your spouse, your mate, but
- 26:04now you gotta deal with the family. Now you gotta
- 26:08deal with the money. Now you gotta deal with his
- 26:11affairs or her affairs, because no one wanted to sit
- 26:15down and have the conversation to get everything in order.
- 26:22So again I say, in this season, my sister says,
- 26:28just the thought of my husband. It's like you get
- 26:30gut punched most days. The emptiness is unexplainable. And I
- 26:33wish this pain. I don't wish just pain on anyone.
- 26:39Speaker 2: I know.
- 26:41Speaker 1: I remember the call and I'll mm, and I said,
- 26:56what I remember the post and I I'm grieving with
- 27:08you because I'm like, this is my brother. You don't understand,
- 27:12like this is my big brother right here. I know,
- 27:16wait a minute, not this can't be real. Until I
- 27:23got the program and I was like the reality said it.
- 27:35And then I couldn't get to my sister like I
- 27:37wanted to. I wanted to run as fast as I
- 27:43could to her. I wanted to hug her. I wanted
- 27:45to carry the pain and the grief for her. But
- 27:53she told me just pray, just pray for me. My
- 27:59cousin who lost her husband the day after my husband
- 28:04was diagnosed with prostate cancer. They just got married. They
- 28:11had just gotten married. I witnessed their wedding and he
- 28:17was gone, and I asked her, I said, I waited
- 28:27because when she when she called me, she text me
- 28:33and I called, I didn't even text back. I facetimed
- 28:36immediately and I just screamed and I was like, no way,
- 28:41uh huh, I can't you know it? It It just
- 28:45was too much because here my husband was just diagnosed
- 28:50with prostate cancer. Her husband passes the next day from
- 28:53pancreatic cancer. So I asked her once, you know, the
- 29:03ceremony was over and she wanted to talk, and I
- 29:07asked her. I said, well, how are you feeling? And
- 29:11she said, you know, I'm here. And I said, are
- 29:19you living or are you existing? She said, right now,
- 29:24I'm just existing. But then she says, you know, now
- 29:31I'm living. And I asked her, what does it feel
- 29:38like and she said, you know, it's empty. She said,
- 29:50you know, I sleep with them in the bed every night.
- 29:54She has us urn in the bed with her bible
- 29:56and her pistol. I say, girl, she said, my aunt baby.
- 30:02She said, you know, I got to protect mine and
- 30:05so we talked and she said, you know, if I
- 30:09had to choose him, she said, if I had to
- 30:11do life all over again, she said, I will still
- 30:14choose him. I said, see, you experienced true love on
- 30:21this side.
- 30:23Speaker 2: You know.
- 30:24Speaker 1: We were and we were watching the Lauren London episode
- 30:29and I said, would you ever date again? She said,
- 30:34I don't think so. And she said because I don't
- 30:42feel like there's anyone out here that would love me
- 30:45the way that my husband did. And that, mmm, like
- 30:53you said, says man. That was like a gut punch
- 30:56when she said that, because it made me think about
- 30:58my husband. It made me think and realized I've got
- 31:05the most amazing human I married the most amazing human being,
- 31:10and I just could not imagine life without him. He
- 31:15is definitely old God. He is definitely my love. He's us.
- 31:23Oh that's my baby. Here y'all are Oh my gosh,
- 31:29here y'all are there are my babies. Oh my goodness,
- 31:39let me take a breath because they are my babies.
- 31:44Mm hmm, all three of them are here. And so
- 31:53she goes on to tell me. She says, hey'sus, hey baby,
- 32:03Juil say thank you for the prayers. Jul says exactly.
- 32:09T Sa says ouch mm hmm. So we continued on
- 32:17with the conversation and she said, you know, I just
- 32:21she doesn't feel like and I understand. And I looked
- 32:24at my husband and I, you know, while he was asleep,
- 32:27and I was just like, I just don't know how
- 32:30I would do life without him. Oh me, she says,
- 32:41you know what I've been through. Yes, And that's why
- 32:44I'm having this conversation because it's holidays, and I know
- 32:55it's heavy for our lot. Again, sum are just are
- 33:03this is their first holiday without their loved one. This
- 33:07maybe their fifth year, their tenth year, their thirtieth year.
- 33:10We don't know. But again, these conversations are imperative. So
- 33:17let me ask you, ladies, what is the hardest part
- 33:22of losing a spouse? What has been the hardest thing
- 33:30for you losing a spouse? And just you could just
- 33:34drop in the comments because I've been around these three
- 33:43beautiful women and to see their strength, Oh god, it
- 33:56just warms my heart. Because these three ladies our strength.
- 34:03They're resilience. You understand. Oh goodness. M My sister says,
- 34:17she's right, because you'll never get that kind of love again.
- 34:21I'm lifting her up in prayer. My baby says, I
- 34:25marry the most amazing soul. Thanks, Oh my god, my
- 34:31favorite Libra. My baby says, there's no preparing for grief.
- 34:43I just keep repeating God's words back to him. My
- 34:49sister says, very heavy on me. It's been four years, man,
- 34:56has it been? Yeah? So I say to you, ladies,
- 35:08I walk with you. I stand in solidarity with you, ladies,
- 35:17because you three have shown me strength. You ladies have
- 35:24shown me that regardless of what life throws at you,
- 35:30you still stay strong in your faith. And oh God,
- 35:34I love that. I love that. And if I could
- 35:41hug you got ladies a million times over, be bad.
- 35:47I'm hugging and never letting go. So again, my sister says,
- 36:03it's year ten and it feels like yesterday. Man. Yeah.
- 36:10Tsha says, that's my baby right there, my little beige baby.
- 36:14She said. The memories are soothing and hurtful. Misha says,
- 36:24you learn to live, you learn to live without them.
- 36:29Titia says, our greater days are still ahead, and they
- 36:33all because God gave y'all real love. God allowed y'all
- 36:41to feel your person. We had to eat a lot
- 36:45of bad apples, baby, We had to eat them apples
- 36:48with the worms and them before God gave you the
- 36:51ripe one Jul says, you can't single out one specific
- 36:58thing because you truly miss it all, especially in the
- 37:00moments when he would do something so crazy and the
- 37:03laughter is uncontrollable. Man, I missed that the most, man,
- 37:08And I think about that, you know, when I, like
- 37:10I said, when we had to sit down and we
- 37:13had to make you know, get all the preparations of
- 37:16you know, what do we want done after we pass?
- 37:18I want to be cremated. He wants to be cremated.
- 37:23It was the thought of I can't see myself being
- 37:29without it. I'm like YouTube. We have a routine Mondays.
- 37:33We watch this show Tuesdays. If we don't watch whatever
- 37:37we miss on Monday, we catch up to it on Tuesday.
- 37:40We watch something on Wednesday. We have something on Thursday. Friday.
- 37:43If we miss anything through the week, we catch up.
- 37:46On Friday. We do you know, we run to Waterberg
- 37:49or we whatever. We go get chicken Panda Express, whatever
- 37:52it is, and it's just us. So I think about that,
- 37:57you know, t shall say, giving up is not an option.
- 38:04She said that unconditional love, the soul love. She said,
- 38:10the good morning, beautiful man, the kiss on the cheek
- 38:17or the kiss on the lips. Hey, baby, says, what's
- 38:20going on? She said, the sleeping with the urn. Yeah,
- 38:29Misha says, you still have to stand they want you
- 38:33to go on. It's not easy, but you have to
- 38:34stand strong and pray. Tis said. Love doesn't die. No,
- 38:40And I don't believe that. I only believe so the
- 38:44body stays. But I feel like when they transition, their
- 38:49soul comes back somewhere else. I just really truly believe that.
- 38:53I'm just saying because my son ain't just like my grandfather,
- 38:56like a little old man y'all. But let me ask you,
- 39:01ladies this, when you lost your spouse, how did it
- 39:06affect you? Because I know mentally it did. I know
- 39:11emotionally it did. I know physically it did? Did it?
- 39:16You know again, did it hurt you financially? Did you,
- 39:20ladies have everything planned out with your husband's I want
- 39:24to know, because again, one day I'm going to experience it.
- 39:30You're talking to someone who may be on the you know,
- 39:34their their spouse may be sick with a terminal illness,
- 39:39and and they're saying they're preparing their final goodbyes. What
- 39:43are some of the things that you, ladies can share too?
- 39:48And you know, to help someone that may be going
- 39:51through this. Right now, you ladies have experienced their firsthand.
- 39:55You ladies, m how does it affect you?
- 40:18Speaker 5: So?
- 40:19Speaker 1: Ja Vera says, I hate the times I didn't spend
- 40:22with him, allowed this stance to be my excuse, But
- 40:25I knew I had more time. T She says, we
- 40:30are more powerful in the spiritual rams and we all.
- 40:39Teacher says you gotta pray to eat. Jules says, good night,
- 40:46everyone praying for us all t She says, you gotta
- 40:51pray to brush your teeth, et cetera. Yes, Misha says,
- 40:57I miss traveling with him all over the world, the
- 40:59walks on the beat, the long talks. He was my everything.
- 41:02Missed the make it happen. Oh yes, my favorite sagittarius.
- 41:06And he was a real and he was my soul brother.
- 41:10I don't care what nobody say. That was my soul brother.
- 41:13I think we were connected because we were both Sagittarius.
- 41:16But listening at you ladies and speaking with other ladies
- 41:22and men who've lost their wives or girlfriends, said it
- 41:30took a toll on them emotionally, and so I asked,
- 41:38you know, can you explain what do you mean? And
- 41:41they said, because I took them for granted. I thought
- 41:47I still had more time n SD because we're all
- 41:55on borrow time. So I found this video, y'allu with
- 42:02Tdjeeks where he talks about how do you have the grief?
- 42:09So we're gonna watch this and then we're going to
- 42:11jump back into the conversation.
- 42:16Speaker 5: I found out later that my daughter and her husband
- 42:19had been on that exact same helicopter just a few
- 42:23weeks before, so that really struck home to me. I
- 42:28think to the greater nation, I would like to say,
- 42:31the way you cope with that pain is by grabbing
- 42:34close who you have left, loving them, holding them, not
- 42:39taking them for granted, sending the extra note, the extra text,
- 42:42the extra hug, the extra kind thing. It's the lessons
- 42:46we learn of the brevity of life that makes life special.
- 42:50If we lived forever and there were no end of life,
- 42:52life would not be special. It is death that makes
- 42:55life special and understanding that brings it into perspective where
- 42:59we stop wasting things like time, yeah, having love for
- 43:03people we don't tell them, not resolving old conflicts, having
- 43:07unforgiveness are the enemies the cancer that eat up this
- 43:11precious commodity that we call time. The real hard part
- 43:15is to deal with the family because we lost an
- 43:18icon and a star and somebody that we projected ourselves
- 43:22on and wanted to be like in some ways. And
- 43:24sometimes they lost daddy. They lost daddy, they lost a husband,
- 43:29they lost a lover, they lost a secret keeper. That's
- 43:32a whole there. As a public figure, I understand there
- 43:34is a huge difference between your public persona and who
- 43:38you are as a person. Well.
- 43:39Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean you talk about your daughter being on
- 43:42that same helicopter. I remember when there was an explosion
- 43:45at your home, right, your family was there, right. Your
- 43:48wife recently went through a medical emergency and you were
- 43:52at a crisis point within your own family with her
- 43:55help alone.
- 43:56Speaker 5: I've been through many I mean we've been married thirty
- 43:58eight years and thirty eight years and raising children. We've
- 44:01had almost everything that could happen has happened. A few
- 44:04things that happened happened. I don't want them to Okay,
- 44:07please God hear me, but you know.
- 44:09Speaker 2: What happened with your wife's My wife.
- 44:11Speaker 5: Went through a major, major surgery and suddenly it was
- 44:16Saturday morning. She's getting up to go to address the
- 44:19women at the church, and she texted me I was
- 44:21in the kitchen doing something that said help, I'm in trouble.
- 44:24And I got back there and in a few minutes
- 44:26she had collapsed on the floor. So all of a sudden,
- 44:29I have these paramedics all around her. We've had to
- 44:31call nine one one. That image will be with me
- 44:34all of my life. There I am riding on the
- 44:37back of an ambulance with my wife to a hospital
- 44:40while they do ekg's trying to rule out her heart.
- 44:43Come to find out that she had three feet of
- 44:46dead literally dead intestines inside of her.
- 44:49Speaker 6: From that moment of a family crisis, as I said,
- 44:52the explosion at your home in Dallas, with the family there,
- 44:56your wife's health, how does Bishop j comfort Bishop Chase.
- 45:02Speaker 5: You know, I don't I take the luxury of being human.
- 45:06I very rarely get it. So I wasn't trying to
- 45:08be a pastor at that moment. I was trying to
- 45:10be a good husband. I was trying to protect my
- 45:13family when the back end of my house exploded. The
- 45:15pool equipment up under my house exploded, and in a
- 45:19moment everything sucked all the water out of the pool,
- 45:22shattered glass through cinder block for about twenty feet down
- 45:25the backside of my yard, right above my son's bedroom.
- 45:29The only thing that mattered to me was getting my
- 45:32son out of there.
- 45:33Speaker 6: Your journey started at age seventeen as a minister.
- 45:37Speaker 5: Yes, what called?
- 45:39Speaker 2: You were in West Virginia.
- 45:41Speaker 5: I was in West Virginia. I recognized the call to preach.
- 45:43I was terrified of it. I ran from it for
- 45:45about two years.
- 45:46Speaker 6: Is it literally a call where you were lying in
- 45:49your bed and something says this is what you must do?
- 45:53Speaker 5: It is? It is both a call an attraction. It
- 45:58is like still and it pulls you. It's destined.
- 46:03Speaker 2: How long did you run from it?
- 46:05Speaker 5: Two years too? Wow? Crazy, timvestous, bad years that I
- 46:11don't want to talk about on TV. But yeah, yeah,
- 46:14I ran from it because because I tried to convince
- 46:17God that I was not the right guy. You know,
- 46:20I told him a very telling statement. I said to him,
- 46:24get one of those good people to do it.
- 46:26Speaker 6: So you saw yourself as a bad.
- 46:28Speaker 2: Person, not one of those good people, not one of
- 46:30the good.
- 46:31Speaker 5: Yeah. I wouldn't go so first to say I thought
- 46:33I was a bad person. But I didn't think I
- 46:35was one of those naturally good, pristine, holier than dow
- 46:39kind of people. Now I'm kind of glad I wasn't.
- 46:42I think the strength of my ministry has been my
- 46:44normalcy and the fact that I connect with people.
- 46:47Speaker 2: You're approachable. I'm approachable.
- 46:48Speaker 5: I'm a guy. I'm flawed, I laugh at myself, I
- 46:51make mistakes. I'm a regular person. But back then, ministers
- 46:55didn't do that. They were like Gord bad a little
- 47:00bored step doubles this. You know, little heard h.
- 47:17Speaker 4: M hm.
- 47:20Speaker 1: Man. Just to hear that and to know that he
- 47:26could have lost his wife in that moment. Beautiful, just
- 47:32a just a beautiful story and a beautiful take on grief.
- 47:41So t Sa says, no regrets. Misha says, you know him.
- 47:49He loves you. Sis, Tcha said, girl, get up. Masha says,
- 47:56I would love to come up and share some of
- 47:58my stories. I send you the link, Sis, come on.
- 48:01Tisha says, Greater is the affliction of those that are chosen.
- 48:06Good night, I love you, I love you, honted bun.
- 48:15Speaker 6: So.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Again, I asked, how does losing a spouse affect you?
- 48:23You know again, I've I've heard that it's affected them mentally.
- 48:27It's affected them emotionally. Some people have said it affected
- 48:34them spiritually. And I was just, you know, trying to understand.
- 48:41And they said, you know, when when you lose someone,
- 48:44you're you're angry at God because it's like, how dare
- 48:49you take my person away from me? How dare you
- 48:54tell that person that they can't be with me anymore?
- 48:59So hold on, here's my sister. Let me get her own. Hey,
- 49:05sugar plum. Okay, let me see h let me see
- 49:12if I could fix your mic. Let me okay, you're
- 49:17so beautiful. Let me see if I can do your mic. Okay,
- 49:30hold on before you do that. Okay, So she's gonna
- 49:34come back in. But I asked, I said, well, why
- 49:38were you upset with God? And they said, because this
- 49:42was my person? How could you give me somebody and
- 49:45then you take them away from me? So I understood it,
- 49:50you know, I respected it. You know, I didn't like it,
- 49:54you know, because I don't know. Maybe I don't know,
- 49:57maybe because not My faith in God is so strong,
- 50:00and I understand that. You know, we're all gonna go,
- 50:03you know, we're all gonna go one day again, some
- 50:11than others, you know, some get to experience of love longer,
- 50:15some don't get to experience it at all. So we're
- 50:19just patiently waiting on my sister. So while we're waiting
- 50:25again for everyone that is just now tuning in, welcome
- 50:28back or welcome to Black Girl interrupted the podcast. It's
- 50:31your girl, Ashley, your favorite girl from the Bible, for
- 50:35bringing you another beautiful episode. So for the month of December,
- 50:39we are discussing grief. Tonight's conversation is how do you
- 50:43deal with losing a spouse? So I have my sister
- 50:46getting ready to come on to talk share some stories
- 50:52about how it's been for her. She lost her husband
- 50:55four years ago. And again, this is the time of
- 50:59year holiday it gets heavy for people, you know, it
- 51:02gets very heavy. Let me go ahead and grab her.
- 51:06Let me grab her. Oh come on, it says, all right,
- 51:13hold on, let me see if I could fix you?
- 51:15Look so pretty? Let me see. All right, let me
- 51:20see can I fix your mic because I got you
- 51:27in here, see if that will work for you. If not,
- 51:39I'll change it back on the AirPods.
- 51:42Speaker 2: I got it.
- 51:44Speaker 1: Here. Let me do to the AirPods say, this is
- 51:55one of the reasons why I just despise.
- 51:59Speaker 2: Apple.
- 52:03Speaker 7: I can take him out if you want me to,
- 52:06so we can hear you. So let me Le'm gonna
- 52:09take out my AirPods.
- 52:10Speaker 1: All right, there we go.
- 52:12Speaker 2: You're good, Okay, you do.
- 52:17Speaker 7: I am behind bless and Ali favor. I know what
- 52:22you're doing. So you can ask me any questions, allow answer,
- 52:28and I'll share my story.
- 52:30Speaker 1: So let me ask you. This is your number four
- 52:34mm hmm without your husband mm hmm when he first passed.
- 52:44What was your thought process? What were you like when
- 52:49you got the news?
- 52:53Speaker 2: Well, I didn't get the news.
- 52:55Speaker 7: I was there watching him take his last brom hmmm.
- 53:00I held his hand, talked to him. I played our
- 53:06play music, slow music that we listened to when we
- 53:08go to bed at night when he's on the road.
- 53:11And I knew that was gonna be the last time
- 53:15because it was different.
- 53:21Speaker 2: It was different.
- 53:22Speaker 1: What was different about this time than any previous times with.
- 53:27Speaker 7: Him because it was like.
- 53:32Speaker 2: A feeling.
- 53:34Speaker 7: That he wasn't gonna be anymore like the butterflies I
- 53:40used to have. Butterflies weren't there no more. My heart
- 53:46was just aching.
- 53:49Speaker 1: No.
- 53:50Speaker 2: It felt different.
- 53:52Speaker 7: So when he was like alive and wasn't going through
- 53:55what he went through and butterfly, and it was like
- 54:02a numbness start coming over me and my heart just
- 54:06feelt like it was very heavy, and I was praying
- 54:09and crying. But the most part that when everything happened
- 54:17that Wednesday night, I talked to him, good Spirit, was
- 54:21it nothing like he was normal? So the next morning
- 54:25he called me the spirit still I'm at work and
- 54:28were talking about nine o'clock you get ready to you know,
- 54:33get on the road or whatever. So eleven o'clock his
- 54:38auntie called me. He was like, oh, they rushed him
- 54:41to the hospital. I said, what, he's not doing good?
- 54:45I said, what, you know? Everything was just like two
- 54:48hours later, it just went but he was He went
- 54:53to drop his load off and when he went in,
- 54:55the guy said he was normal when he came in.
- 54:58He went back out to his truck and they was
- 54:59trying to understand why he was bagging the truck on
- 55:02the door. So he told the guy, he said, go
- 55:05out there and see what's going. I was just taking
- 55:07him too long to put the truck on the door.
- 55:10Went to the truck. He was slumped over, foaming at
- 55:14the mouth. It rushed to the hospital, put him on
- 55:18life support. Come to find out he had an aneurysm
- 55:22and it burst in his head. And the most difficult
- 55:29part leaving and he not coming with me at the
- 55:35fly all the way out to Nebraska and getting on
- 55:39that plane along without him.
- 55:42Speaker 2: I was along.
- 55:43Speaker 7: I was lost, And it feels like it's just yesterday.
- 55:50It happened because he was in love with my life.
- 55:54I had to learn that it wasout him till this day.
- 55:58He always the stuff happened. He'll come in my memorism
- 56:03on Facebook, or see a red bird h some song
- 56:08will come on that was our favorite son. He just
- 56:11let me know I'm still with you. I'm just not
- 56:14that in the flesh. I mean, he was in spirit.
- 56:17Speaker 2: So I learned it's not easy going through that at all.
- 56:20Speaker 7: It's not like when they are the provider to protect
- 56:25the provider and the protector and your everything.
- 56:28Speaker 2: And you'll have a routine pattern y'all call.
- 56:30Speaker 7: Each other in the morning, you sit down and eat
- 56:33in the morning together, you know, have a routine, and
- 56:36then when that routine change, it's hard.
- 56:41Speaker 2: So you know my house I had, I sold it.
- 56:45Speaker 7: You know I sold it because I couldn't stand there house.
- 56:50I could smell it sinning there like, it's smelling like,
- 56:55and I still have things to this dive as motorcycle
- 56:58right now, and I'm going to get rid of it
- 57:01because it's just sitting. It's just sitting little stuff. Over
- 57:06the years, I have let go. But it's so hard.
- 57:10It's so hard.
- 57:11Speaker 1: So let me ask, shoot Sis, give passes. You have
- 57:20to come back to Mississippi. Mm hmm, So Mom, you
- 57:35can do it to Mississippi.
- 57:37Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 57:39Speaker 1: You walk in that door. What did you say? What?
- 57:49Speaker 2: What did I say? What was my thoughts?
- 57:52Speaker 1: You come in?
- 57:54Speaker 7: I just start I just started crying. I stayed in
- 57:58the bed. I got up, like, took a shower, and
- 58:01laid it down. I was in the bed for two weeks,
- 58:04but not two weeks, I'll say. After the funeral and
- 58:08all that kind of stuff. When I came back, I cried.
- 58:10My kids were there for me every step of the way.
- 58:12My kids were there with their mom. And I had
- 58:17so much to do. I had to plan for a funeral.
- 58:22It's eighteen wheeler was in the shop. It was just
- 58:25so much and it was all on me, right, But
- 58:30it's a God I served.
- 58:34Speaker 1: I just got job.
- 58:37Speaker 2: God God I saved.
- 58:40Speaker 7: He carried me through it. When I say I was
- 58:45noumb I didn't even grieve the first year. I was numb,
- 58:51you know. When I started grieving the second year, I
- 58:56heard it hit me.
- 58:57Speaker 2: It hit me, you know.
- 59:01Speaker 7: When he passed away and I did the funeral and everything.
- 59:06I come home, I say in the bed two weeks
- 59:11my little white neighbor.
- 59:13Speaker 2: You know, she's sweet, she could be. I used to
- 59:14take care of her. She said, he wouldn't want you
- 59:17to do that.
- 59:17Speaker 7: Get up out that bed, Get up out that bed
- 59:19and come drink some coffee with me, That's what she said.
- 59:22I said, no, she said, oh yeah, I'm gonna come
- 59:24over there and get you that.
- 59:26Speaker 1: Girl. You know you coffee. You go sit on that
- 59:30front porch. You was a cigarette. He was smoke a cigarette.
- 59:33Yeah yeah, oh man.
- 59:35Speaker 7: But my neighbor, this Barbara, rest her soul because she
- 59:39passed away too, and she was my strint.
- 59:43Speaker 2: She was eighty some years old. She was my strint.
- 59:46So he wouldn't want you to do that.
- 59:48Speaker 7: So after I did all that, sold the house and
- 59:52everything and moved to where I'm at now, I went
- 59:57to school to get my dinners assist a license. I
- 1:00:00saw it and I got my Grayoit permit. So I
- 1:00:05kept my mind moving. But then when that mind stopped,
- 1:00:10that's when it hit me.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: The reality said in I heard that a friend of mine.
- 1:00:14Speaker 7: I kept I kept busy, you know, I kept busy.
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: You know, a friend of mine had lost his wife.
- 1:00:19He said, she's been going six years now. He said,
- 1:00:24the first two years, he said, I just I just
- 1:00:28kept going and going and going and going. And he
- 1:00:30said what triggered? He was in the mall mm hmm
- 1:00:34and uh. He had walked into some store and they
- 1:00:38were playing a song.
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: M hm oh. Them songs get you every time.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: Said he broke. He said, man, and people's getting ready
- 1:00:46to take me to jail. They thought I was. He said,
- 1:00:48I had to tell the security guard. He talked about no,
- 1:00:50he said, I lost my wife. Answer, yeah, she was misdiagnosed.
- 1:00:57H which happens a whole lot. But he said he
- 1:01:00went in the store and he said it was an
- 1:01:02Anita Baker song. He didn't say what song, but he was.
- 1:01:04He said it was just Anita Baker.
- 1:01:06Speaker 7: He said, the songs will get you every time, I
- 1:01:11promise you. And I listen to music, but I don't
- 1:01:13listen to it like I used to because we had
- 1:01:16a playlist and we had a bunch of music, like
- 1:01:18when we travel over the road, because like he doesn't
- 1:01:20tell me the foty eight country.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: I done been to forty eight states, like all over
- 1:01:24the world. You know.
- 1:01:25Speaker 7: So learning to deal with him still to this day,
- 1:01:32because you know, we buried him the day before Thanksgiving
- 1:01:37and a week after that it's his birthday, his birthday
- 1:01:40December to sixth. You know, him and him are sgittary,
- 1:01:43So it's like a bittersweet moment for I mean, right,
- 1:01:47but I still celebrate him after death. I keep my memories,
- 1:01:54you know, close to my heart and I tell people
- 1:01:58all the time it's so okay to cry as long
- 1:02:02as you want because that's them, your feeling, them, your emotions.
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:02:07Speaker 7: Can't nobody tell you how long I'm to greed. Can't
- 1:02:09nobody tell you how to feel? That's your feelings, right
- 1:02:14and their Vadley.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: You know I said that last night. You know, there's
- 1:02:17no timeline on grief. You know, this whole month of December,
- 1:02:21I'm talking about grief. You know, last night I spoke
- 1:02:24on how does it feel a lose a parent? Now
- 1:02:26it's how do you know how do you do with
- 1:02:28losing a spout?
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: Well, you know, I lost my dad. I found my
- 1:02:31dad dead.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: So I remember that. I remember I went through.
- 1:02:34Speaker 7: That too, So I feel your pain dealing with your
- 1:02:37dad because I was a daddy girl. Straight up, you
- 1:02:41couldn't say nothing about my daddy. Baby, it's gonna be
- 1:02:44some friend movie something about my daddy. You know, I
- 1:02:47love my mom, but my dad, oh no, no, no, that's.
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: A no, that's a whole different type of love.
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: And then losing him, my dad, then losing him.
- 1:02:57Speaker 7: Both of them was my hero and my rock. It's
- 1:03:01like it took something out of me. I can't even
- 1:03:06I can't even explain the feeling. But I'm more now calm,
- 1:03:13but I'm very sensitive and I'm asking God to heal
- 1:03:17those areas where I'm sensitive because like, it took a
- 1:03:23big chunk out of me. And people don't understand. They'd
- 1:03:28be like, you cry too much?
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: Well I don't.
- 1:03:31Speaker 7: I cry, but I don't cry like I used to.
- 1:03:32I'm getting better with that. But people like you cry.
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: Why you cry?
- 1:03:37Speaker 7: I said, First of all, you ain't experienced what they experience,
- 1:03:41so you are never understand.
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I said at the start of
- 1:03:44the show. I said, be kind to people because the
- 1:03:49tables will turn. You will get be on that receiving end,
- 1:03:54and you're gonna want someone to have great and empathy
- 1:03:57for you wartime, whether it's a spouse, whether it's a child,
- 1:04:03whether it's a mother, a father, a sibling, a grandparent.
- 1:04:07You're talking about all of that this month in December,
- 1:04:11because these are the holidays. It gets heavy. Yes, it
- 1:04:14doesn't matter it's twenty years. It doesn't matter if it's
- 1:04:17been two years six. Stop telling people to get over.
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: No, you one thing about it.
- 1:04:25Speaker 7: You'll never get over it, but you learn how you're
- 1:04:27you'll learn how to deal with it better.
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: Right as time progress.
- 1:04:32Speaker 7: You know, I don't understand you know people, because we
- 1:04:40all got to go down that journey, whether we want
- 1:04:42to go or not. But when you see somebody going
- 1:04:47through that, talk to him, Listen to him, be a
- 1:04:50listening here. A lot of people are turning it back
- 1:04:53on you and go They say I had to go
- 1:04:55through myth by myself, and you know you you would.
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: Text me or call me.
- 1:04:59Speaker 7: It's how you do on and I just you know, no,
- 1:05:02I appreciate everybody who checked on me. But the ones
- 1:05:05that I really want to embrace me, they embrace me.
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: And it's the hardest part. And that's what I said
- 1:05:11last night. I said, everyone is there with you the
- 1:05:14first three months, maybe six months. You're maybe six months
- 1:05:17with somebody, yes, But then after that the phone calls
- 1:05:20become foreign, few in between because they don't want to
- 1:05:23hear that. But then when their time comes, they want
- 1:05:27you front and center. So I tell people, extend grace
- 1:05:30because you're going to be on that end where you're
- 1:05:34sitting front row and you got to hold that lid,
- 1:05:36or you got to carry that earth. However that you do,
- 1:05:39what that remains in the end, you gotta deal with
- 1:05:42that in the end. I had to do that when
- 1:05:45my daughter lost the father last year, yes, you know,
- 1:05:48and it was whether I saw eye to eye with
- 1:05:51him or not. I had to stand up and I
- 1:05:53had to be there for her. You understand, because I
- 1:05:57lost my dad. You know, when my husband was diagnosed
- 1:06:02with price state cancer, we had to start getting everything
- 1:06:05in order. I didn't want to have that conversation because
- 1:06:07I didn't want to think about life without him. You know,
- 1:06:09when he told me had cancer, I was like, what,
- 1:06:12how the hell did that happen?
- 1:06:14Speaker 7: You know, the one thing about it. God is a
- 1:06:19great physician man. No matter what the doctor says, God.
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: But God, But God.
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: Baby, when I tell you, faith more than a muscle.
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: See what the doctor said. When he go back to
- 1:06:33that doctor, he gonna get a good report. Believe in
- 1:06:39it right now. In the name of Jesus.
- 1:06:41Speaker 7: God will never fail you long as you keep your
- 1:06:44faith and he keep his faith. Hey, God perform miracles
- 1:06:50every day.
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: Because baby, when it when it came, when he when
- 1:06:52he called me and gave me the news, I didn't
- 1:06:56even think about me in that moment. I just how
- 1:06:59does he feel? Understand? And they called it early stage two.
- 1:07:04He starts radiation on the eighteen next Thursday. But like
- 1:07:08I told him, God had already healed you. You just
- 1:07:13got to take the human medicine because your recovery is
- 1:07:16going to be beautiful. And ever since I changed, and I've revamped,
- 1:07:23let me say this, revamped my relationship with God. He's
- 1:07:26opened doors that I never thought that I would be
- 1:07:28able to open. God has moved on my behalf. And
- 1:07:32this is why it was imperative for me to have
- 1:07:35this discussion in the month of December, because grief is heavy,
- 1:07:39and people have lost their faith when they lose a love,
- 1:07:42when they're mad at God. And I understand, I get it.
- 1:07:45I was mad with God when my father past.
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was telling you out.
- 1:07:49Speaker 7: And then I used to tell you don't feel like that, man,
- 1:07:52I was.
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: I'm angry. I was like, oh my God, this girl
- 1:07:55right here.
- 1:07:56Speaker 7: I couldn't but you grow, you have grown, and I'm
- 1:07:59so I am so so proud of you.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: I had to, Like my therapist told me, my house
- 1:08:10had to be torn down and rebuilt because God says,
- 1:08:15how can you live in a house with a roof
- 1:08:16and only a foundation? M And I say, but I've
- 1:08:20been making it. He said, but how was that turned
- 1:08:23out for you? You're in a house with a roof
- 1:08:26and a foundation. You don't have nothing to hold that
- 1:08:29roof up. So eventually it was gonna collide. It was
- 1:08:32gonna collapse.
- 1:08:34Speaker 5: HM.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: So I had to learn to extend the same grace
- 1:08:39that I wanted to other people. I had to learn
- 1:08:42if I wanted empathy, I had to give empathy, you understand.
- 1:08:44I had to redefine my relationship. I had to sit
- 1:08:48down with me, and I had to say, you know what, God,
- 1:08:52I'm ready. I need you to come and I need
- 1:08:58to change my heart.
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thank you Lord.
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: I need you to save me from me. Yes, because
- 1:09:06I was my worst enemy. A lot of people don't.
- 1:09:08And that comes with growth, and that comes with age,
- 1:09:12that comes with wisdom, that comes with experience busing people,
- 1:09:16that comes with getting things replaced. Because when God took
- 1:09:19my dad, I asked God, I said, how am I
- 1:09:23supposed to do this? I'm in Alabama. I don't I'm
- 1:09:27never planned no funeral here. I'm by myself. So God said,
- 1:09:33He's always I'm gonna send some people to you. He
- 1:09:36sent my father's church family to me. And every day
- 1:09:41that I was in Alabama until the day that I left,
- 1:09:44they stood there was my pillars. You understand. When I
- 1:09:47felt like I couldn't get across that finish line, they say,
- 1:09:49come on, we're gonna drag you across.
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: Mhm.
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: So even when my husband told me he had cancer,
- 1:09:57I said, I immediately prayed because you know, once they diagnosed,
- 1:10:03you know, you gotta go in for the scans to
- 1:10:04make sure it ain't nowhere else. And I told him,
- 1:10:06I said, let me tell you something that can't say nowhere.
- 1:10:08It's still in the same spot where they found it.
- 1:10:10It's in his prosty. He went in, did the scans.
- 1:10:14He was nervous. I said, what your nervous spots say?
- 1:10:16Maybe I didn't already talk to God. God says, you
- 1:10:19are you? Doctor told him, he sat up. The cancer
- 1:10:26ain't nowhere else in your body. It's just still in
- 1:10:28your prosty. You're healthy, you got a strong heart, You're livable, good,
- 1:10:34every every organ in his body looks good. So his revery,
- 1:10:39it is wonderful. Absolutely. I told him, you're gonna look
- 1:10:43back at this and we're gonna be like ba. You
- 1:10:46remember remember that weapon that form and it prospered just
- 1:10:49a little bit, but God came and took it back.
- 1:10:52Speaker 8: You remember that, Remember remember that weapon that for just
- 1:10:54a touch? It didn't it didn't prosper all the way,
- 1:10:58but just a touch. So I'm grateful when I have
- 1:11:03these conversations because I get to learn from the ones
- 1:11:11that have experienced. So it prepares me for when my
- 1:11:15time comes, or when my husbands time comes. We know
- 1:11:18how to handle it, we know how to deal with it.
- 1:11:21Speaker 7: If you don't have God, if you don't have God,
- 1:11:23you don't have nothing. And one thing, I'm looking at
- 1:11:26you and I know you mean you.
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: You have grown so much.
- 1:11:35Speaker 7: I'm so proud of you. Because they don't know Ashley.
- 1:11:38Ash I know he was alive, a wild card, a
- 1:11:44wild card, didn't care one fight. I said, wait, hey, chill,
- 1:11:47I but I thank God for your growth and I'm
- 1:11:52gonna shore and let me share something with you about
- 1:11:54my dad. I didn't even know my dad had prostate
- 1:12:00council at all. You know how I found out when
- 1:12:05m service got the medicine and I said what that
- 1:12:08medicine for? He said, for prostate counsel? I said what?
- 1:12:12My daddy held it from us. But my daddy was
- 1:12:18at his last stage, Like you know, he was at
- 1:12:20his last stage, and my daddy was stubborn, and uh,
- 1:12:25they put it to cathea. He was like, I don't
- 1:12:27want that. I said, did you you'rein it? He was like, yeah,
- 1:12:30I did. He probably didn't. And what happened to fluid
- 1:12:33backed up and choked him.
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: Yeah, So I experienced.
- 1:12:39Speaker 7: That, you know, planning for his funeral by myself, didn't
- 1:12:42know which way to go. But thank God for his
- 1:12:45nephew and his nephew's wife. They was there every step
- 1:12:49of the way. I didn't know which way to go,
- 1:12:52and my husband had passed, so he was there. He
- 1:12:55took a lot of load off of me too. I
- 1:12:57was like, planning a run is not easy. And then
- 1:13:02trying to greed at the same time.
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: In the midst of all of that, because you can't
- 1:13:08grieve because you have to be able to focus and
- 1:13:11function to make these arrangements. You have to focused and
- 1:13:15be able to function through this. And then when the
- 1:13:19funeral comes, you still got to keep it together because
- 1:13:23guess what, you got to stay strong for you. You
- 1:13:25gotta stay strong for the.
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: Family, the grandchildren, the great grandkids.
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: All of that, the nieces, the nephews children. But then
- 1:13:34it was like, once that's said and done, once that
- 1:13:39day is over, m it's what do I do now?
- 1:13:45Where do I go now?
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: One thing?
- 1:13:49Speaker 7: One thing when you when you're dealing with when you're married,
- 1:13:53if you go a he go first or whatever, when
- 1:13:55you're dealing with that, you have to gather you to
- 1:14:00other because it'll mess with your mental.
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: That was my question was how did losing him? How
- 1:14:08did it affect you? Again, it affected them spiritually, A
- 1:14:14lot of people, like I said, they were mad at God.
- 1:14:16I've heard some people say it took a toll on
- 1:14:18them physically.
- 1:14:20Speaker 7: Well, it didn't take control of me mentally, spiritually, because
- 1:14:25we'd already talked about it, because he, you know, travel
- 1:14:28a dangerous highway a lot, so you know, he would say,
- 1:14:33you know, if somethingow to mean while I'm on that
- 1:14:35road traveling, I want you gone with your life. Don't
- 1:14:38set around and weave and cried, and you know, enjoy
- 1:14:41your life. Because I lived my life. You know, it
- 1:14:43was time for me to go. It's time for me
- 1:14:44to go. And we you know, we had those conversations often.
- 1:14:48But this time when he left, he kept saying he
- 1:14:51had a headache, and I was like, well, you need
- 1:14:53to go to the hospital and let him do something,
- 1:14:56you know, see what's going on with your head. And
- 1:14:59he he had a hat with his name on it
- 1:15:02in a blanket. I used to pray over it, you know.
- 1:15:06He used to take it all the time on the
- 1:15:07road in his hat. This particular time he left the
- 1:15:10hat and the blanket and I said, oh my god,
- 1:15:16he never leave home without that.
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: He is a hug he gave me when he left
- 1:15:25it felt different.
- 1:15:30Speaker 7: And on that trip him traveling take that load, he
- 1:15:35was calling me every minute on the hour, on the hour,
- 1:15:39video calling me, playing music like he was just all
- 1:15:42over the place.
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: But he was happy.
- 1:15:43Speaker 7: Though I'm saying to myself, like, Lord, what is wrong
- 1:15:48because he don't call me at me anytime. I mean,
- 1:15:50he was just And when I said at that bed
- 1:15:56on side of him, I got up and got on
- 1:15:59my knees.
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: I just prayed and cried after God.
- 1:16:03Speaker 7: I said, God, whatever your will is, which what what
- 1:16:09your will is not mine?
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: Or what your will lives? And he just took that
- 1:16:18thing off here. I looked over there that was wrong with.
- 1:16:29Speaker 7: And like I say, people don't know my story if
- 1:16:34they don't read out the chapter. And I have, you know,
- 1:16:39been a lot like to myself, like I don't like
- 1:16:43a lot of chaos or nothing. I just like peace.
- 1:16:48It's peace because when you're dealing with something, and like
- 1:16:53I said, my heart go out to you. And God
- 1:16:56brought your husband to it, He gonna bring him through it.
- 1:17:01I want you to be strong, baby, I want you
- 1:17:05to be strong. You have to be strong for him
- 1:17:08and for yourself because us as women's we have the
- 1:17:14praying warriors for our husbands. I know he probably prayed
- 1:17:22that you pray too, and you know, and you haven't
- 1:17:27grown so much, and God ain't gonna bless you with
- 1:17:32something that you love so much and take it from
- 1:17:35you because you deserve everything you have.
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: So let man ask Shoo says, spent four years.
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: Would you ever get back into the dating game again?
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: I'm married.
- 1:18:03Speaker 7: It took me a minute, but I did it. It
- 1:18:11was hard, but I remember the things we talked about,
- 1:18:18like I want you to keep living your life. Don't
- 1:18:22put your life on hold because I'm gone. I'm not
- 1:18:25coming back. And we had these conversations. I'm like, boy,
- 1:18:32stop talking like that. I don't want to hear none
- 1:18:33at you know, we had those conversations.
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: So I'm happy.
- 1:18:42Speaker 7: I've been married going on three years and he's been
- 1:18:45gone four years.
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: I see the glow. I see the glow, and I
- 1:18:53could see all them goals in his mouth, him grinning
- 1:18:56big as hell.
- 1:18:58Speaker 7: He just wanted me to be happy. But after after
- 1:19:01life he leaves, he wants He still wanted me to
- 1:19:03be happy. He still wanted me to enjoy myself. He
- 1:19:06don't want me to be like sad all I can
- 1:19:10do is keep our memories close to my heart, you
- 1:19:14know what I'm saying, and be there for his son.
- 1:19:16And that's what I've been doing, being up for his son.
- 1:19:19You know, that's my baby. It looked just like his dad.
- 1:19:23You know, he's my baby. And he's he traveled too.
- 1:19:26He works, you know, travel all over the world. They
- 1:19:28call me all the time, Mom, what you're doing, what
- 1:19:30you're cooking?
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:19:32Speaker 7: And I'm so proud of him because I had to
- 1:19:36think about his feeling as well, and I had to
- 1:19:39deal with my feelings and his feelings, you know, him
- 1:19:44expressing hisself to me, I'm already dealing with it, and
- 1:19:48then I'm trying to be strong for him and me.
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: So it was a challenge. But it's okay.
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: It's okay. How is love or love and life been
- 1:20:00after his passing? What made you say, you know what,
- 1:20:05I'm gonna try this love thing again?
- 1:20:09Speaker 7: Well, I put to you like this, He told me
- 1:20:14these exact words. I'm gonna say it again. Go on
- 1:20:16with your life. He's not coming back. He wasn't coming back,
- 1:20:21So he didn't want me to put my life on whole.
- 1:20:24I said, I wasn't gonna never be with no body
- 1:20:26no more. And that was selfish of me to even
- 1:20:30say that to myself, because.
- 1:20:32Speaker 2: He wouldn't want me to be unhappy. He wanted me
- 1:20:36to be happy, love still.
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: And then still help. You were denying yourself.
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: That, yeah, and he didn't want me to do that.
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: And that's what you know, looking at videos and just
- 1:20:49listening to like grief.
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: Uh.
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: I was in a grief support group when I lost
- 1:20:54my dad and it was the guy that it was
- 1:20:57the leader that was in there that lost a husband,
- 1:20:59and that was one of the questions they asked. They said, well,
- 1:21:02do you feel like you'll ever experience love again? She says, well,
- 1:21:06you know, my husband's two years. I put myself out
- 1:21:11there now, you know, because his life ended mine didn't.
- 1:21:17So why deny myself the happiness? She said? My love
- 1:21:24for him will never go away. I didn't get married
- 1:21:27to fell a void. Yeah, I wanted happiness.
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: It's something that he said to me.
- 1:21:34Speaker 7: He said, I gave I'm giving you half the happiness
- 1:21:40and after death, I still want you to be happy.
- 1:21:43He wasn't selfish, you know, And that's what having some
- 1:21:48kind of conversation even when you don't want to have him.
- 1:21:51It's good even when you don't want to hear, because
- 1:21:55just the magic your husband passed away up, God forbid it,
- 1:22:00and you didn't have these conversations and you're gonna be
- 1:22:03running in your head. Did he want me to move on?
- 1:22:05Did he want me to be happy? It plays a
- 1:22:08big key and some people don't like to talk about it,
- 1:22:10but it's best to talk about it.
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: And it was uncomfortable because when he was at when
- 1:22:15he was diagnosed with cancer, we were already in the
- 1:22:18process of putting wheels together, you know, because I told him,
- 1:22:21I said, you know, we're married. Now we gotta start
- 1:22:24putting pain and paper. Now we gotta start putting everything
- 1:22:26in black and white. I say, because everything I went
- 1:22:29through when my daddy passed, I don't want to go
- 1:22:31through that with you because my father's family. The baby, I.
- 1:22:36Speaker 2: Have to tell you what.
- 1:22:38Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to tell you what I have to
- 1:22:39tell you off the screen because baby, you know Suster
- 1:22:43mile can be lethal. Yeah I can't, Baby, I got
- 1:22:47some stuff to tell you. Baby, you're gonna be You're
- 1:22:49gonna be like what, Yeah, baby, I went through something,
- 1:22:52but you know what me and the type of person.
- 1:22:56It's not about material things with me. It's about the
- 1:22:59love right that we shared because no money in the
- 1:23:03world can.
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: Buy that, and money ain't gonna bring them back, Nope.
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: At all.
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: It was so when we were talking, so we sat
- 1:23:13down and we started writing everything out. I say, well,
- 1:23:15I need to know what do you want done with
- 1:23:17your remains? If you go before me, what do you want?
- 1:23:20Do you want a funeral? Do you want to be cream?
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: You know?
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: What do you want? He said, no, I want to
- 1:23:24be cremated. He said, but just make sure that my
- 1:23:28children have some of my ashes. He say, you could
- 1:23:31do whatever you want with the rest of them, he said,
- 1:23:33but just make sure that my children. I said, your children. No,
- 1:23:38he said, I want my children. He said. When I
- 1:23:41say that, you're he said, I'm talking about all six
- 1:23:44of them, because he has three and I have three.
- 1:23:47And I said, okay, I say, well, do you want
- 1:23:50your ashes scattered somewhere? Like? Do you want you want
- 1:23:52them to go back to California? What you want? Because
- 1:23:55I told him, I say, because I'm not arguing with
- 1:23:57nobody family, I.
- 1:23:59Speaker 7: Need you to everything headache the boy and and they
- 1:24:04do it now. But what yeah, yeah, we're talking about
- 1:24:09on the back end.
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: On the back end, I told him, I said, because
- 1:24:12I'm not arguing with family, I say, because I'm gonna
- 1:24:15tell them. If something happens to you right now and
- 1:24:18you haven't put anything in writing, baby, come on, come
- 1:24:21get his body to take him on back to California.
- 1:24:22I'm not gonna argue.
- 1:24:24Speaker 7: See, that's the best thing to do. Like people, them
- 1:24:27are some uncomfortable conversation. But to keep the peace within
- 1:24:31yourself in your household, which I'll created, you got to
- 1:24:35be putting that on paining and paper because if it's
- 1:24:38not on paining and paper and they still got somebody
- 1:24:40else's name on that, and then you know, remove them
- 1:24:43out there. Guess what, it's gonna go to them and
- 1:24:45not you, and that's gonna be a problem.
- 1:24:47Speaker 2: So it's best to put it on paying and paper,
- 1:24:49you know.
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: And that's what I told him. I said, put it
- 1:24:53in right, We're going to get it notarized. I say,
- 1:24:56because I'm not arguing with no family about you. I'm
- 1:25:00not arguing with your child, I said, I'm not arguing
- 1:25:02with the children. I'm not doing anything of that. I
- 1:25:05won't whomever goes first. I needed to be less stressful,
- 1:25:11because it's already hard enough that I gotta deal with
- 1:25:13you being gone.
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: Yes, who I.
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: Got to deal with your family doing this, so I
- 1:25:19got to or you got to deal with my family
- 1:25:20saying this, So you got to do this. You got
- 1:25:22to do that. We're not arguing.
- 1:25:26Speaker 2: I've been look, I've been that done at noon.
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: No, I'm not doing it because I will get to
- 1:25:33a point where I say, you know what our ship
- 1:25:35is body on the California Baby, y'all do with what
- 1:25:37you will. I told him, I said, we've got to
- 1:25:40put you know, mortgage protection on the home in case
- 1:25:43you go before me. You know, the house not the
- 1:25:46house will be paid off, you know.
- 1:25:48Speaker 2: See one thing about it?
- 1:25:49Speaker 7: With that, With that right there, I'll touch you in
- 1:25:53the back end because I'm gonna tell you some stuff
- 1:25:54you can do because you know I know, but I'm
- 1:25:56gonna tell you some stuff on the back end that
- 1:25:59to pay for itself.
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: But it was just so when it back to you,
- 1:26:06you're married, it's been four years. How does your husband.
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: Feel one thing about it?
- 1:26:13Speaker 7: He's so understandable, like you know, you accumulate stuff and
- 1:26:19you know in that past, you know he left me
- 1:26:25a lot of stuff. So he wouldn't the type of play.
- 1:26:27Get rid of that, you go unt, he said, that's yours.
- 1:26:29You keep it as long as you want and don't
- 1:26:31bother me.
- 1:26:33Speaker 2: He wouldn't.
- 1:26:33Speaker 7: Never like he said, how can I judge a man
- 1:26:36that's them past that I don't even know if you
- 1:26:39loved him.
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: I love him too, And that's rare. You know.
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: He's he's old school, see, and.
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: That's and that's baby. It's something about them old school men.
- 1:26:52Speaker 2: They're understandable. They're understandable.
- 1:26:54Speaker 7: Like if they if they mama's boys, if it's a
- 1:26:57well man treated his mother, he gonna treat you just sign.
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because when my daughter's I think her.
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: Phone is, he's gonna treat you just signed, you know.
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: And you sound like a robots. You sound like a
- 1:27:17I don't know what huh. Go out and come back in,
- 1:27:28Go out and come back in. We're having some type
- 1:27:34of technical difficulties. See, this is exactly why I am gonna.
- 1:27:42Speaker 2: Come on.
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: Hold on, let me take you off from you. Let
- 1:27:46me take you off from you. Call on my phone
- 1:27:54while there you go.
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: Yes?
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: I can't hear you.
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: You may have to go out and come back in.
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: Go out and come back in.
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: All right, So we had a couple of technical difficulties,
- 1:28:12but that's okay. She gonna go out and she's gonna
- 1:28:14come right on back in. But having to okay, here
- 1:28:19we go. Okay, yeah, right, good, I can hear you perfect.
- 1:28:25So when my daughter's father passed away last year, my husband,
- 1:28:32he wasn't my husband yet. We was on the wait
- 1:28:35to be in that. But he understood. He said, y'all
- 1:28:38sharing a child together. You know, I could understand you
- 1:28:42being sad. And I was saying, it's not he's not.
- 1:28:43He's not selfish and mine not selfish. Like he don't
- 1:28:47like that petty little stuff. And Nick Naton ain't into that.
- 1:28:52Speaker 7: He's about God, working, providing, protecting, enjoying ourselves.
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: All all that other stuff. Outside of that. We don't
- 1:29:02care nothing about it.
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: And that's him because, like I said, when I when
- 1:29:07my daughter's father passed, he wasn't in Houston yet. He
- 1:29:13came the following month. My daughter's father passed March thirteenth,
- 1:29:17twenty four. He came April, like almost the end of April.
- 1:29:21But he was understanding, you know, I said, you know,
- 1:29:23I'm gonna go to the SERF. They didn't. They had
- 1:29:25a memorial service because he was cremated, and it was
- 1:29:28a whole and this and and you know what, And
- 1:29:32I'm so glad I brought that up because that was
- 1:29:35my daughter's father's situe. He was married and I don't
- 1:29:39know what the deal or the issue was, but the
- 1:29:42wife left him in the hospital for like two weeks.
- 1:29:45She refused to sign off for the funeral wann to
- 1:29:47come get his body, because remember, when you're married, your
- 1:29:55children can't you know, they could make medical.
- 1:29:59Speaker 7: Nobody came and nobody moved nothing but you, right, So
- 1:30:04it got me to thinking.
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: And that's why I you know, I say, you know,
- 1:30:08we gotta have this conversation because he passed on the thirteenth,
- 1:30:13and I want to say he was I want to
- 1:30:15say before the funeral home came and got it. I
- 1:30:17want to say a mayas in almost two weeks before
- 1:30:20she finally signed off for a funeral home to come
- 1:30:23and get his body.
- 1:30:26Speaker 2: That's weird.
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: We'll talk about that on the back end.
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: Yeah, well, don't talk, don't say no more. But I.
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: Am going to keep having these conversations because they're needed.
- 1:30:39Their warning there.
- 1:30:40Speaker 7: There are important. They are important. Brother a person want
- 1:30:44to talk about it or not. I tell people all
- 1:30:48the time, black and white, and when you married, you
- 1:30:52need to get all that stuff. Great, why that person
- 1:30:56in their right mind? Because if they started dripping now,
- 1:31:00you're gonna be messed up.
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's gonna be strung out in court for two, three, four, five,
- 1:31:07six years. And a lot of wants to go through
- 1:31:09that because at the end of the day, I want
- 1:31:12to be able to greet you understand. I want to
- 1:31:14be able to feel what I need to feel right then.
- 1:31:16I don't want to wait. I want to feel it.
- 1:31:19I don't want to be all tied up in litigations
- 1:31:22with you because you want the car and healing and
- 1:31:25I'm this and that.
- 1:31:26Speaker 2: Let's see one thing, one thing about him.
- 1:31:30Speaker 7: Everything nobody didn't just mean right, no, nothing, no argue
- 1:31:38none that. But it's a couple of things happen. I
- 1:31:42tell you in the back end, you're gonna be like what.
- 1:31:45But I was like, I'm through, I'm done. I was done,
- 1:31:49Like I don't conversate with them people and nothing.
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: I don't nothing because the.
- 1:31:54Speaker 7: Things what I don't like about people when a person living.
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: Oh they love you to death.
- 1:32:02Speaker 7: Yeah, when they pass away, they look at you like
- 1:32:05you ain't never exist because that person ain't alive to talk.
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: So I'm the.
- 1:32:11Speaker 7: Type of person if you treat me like that when
- 1:32:14something might happen, something like that happened, I'm not dealing
- 1:32:17with you at all, Like I don't trust you. You
- 1:32:19done lost my trust everything. Like I'm just a different breed.
- 1:32:23I'm just different. Like I'm straight up. If I like you,
- 1:32:26I'm not gonna change them or be the same person
- 1:32:28every time. You know that you've been knowing me for
- 1:32:31years and I'm not gonna switch up. If anybody switch up,
- 1:32:35it's gonna be you, not me, right, because if I
- 1:32:38say I'm a sister, a friend, I'm there for you,
- 1:32:41I meant just that, you know, And it's just it's
- 1:32:46just when I went through that, the people that I
- 1:32:50thought would be there, nothing nothing.
- 1:32:59Speaker 1: What if the holiday has been like for you, because
- 1:33:02remember the holidays get heavy for a lot of people.
- 1:33:06So no, let me back up before you answer that question.
- 1:33:11The year of first is always the hardest because you
- 1:33:14know that's the first year without him for their birthday
- 1:33:17and for the holidays. Can you tell me about that
- 1:33:20first year, the first birthday without him, the first Thanksgiving,
- 1:33:27the first Christmas.
- 1:33:29Speaker 7: Okay, you know, like I say, they buried him a
- 1:33:33day before Thanksgiving, but they still cook. I just wentn't
- 1:33:37into it, like I wasn't dealing it. Then his birthday.
- 1:33:42I just then watch movie Cride.
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: You go to New Orleans. I think I saw you
- 1:33:50you were in New Orleans.
- 1:33:52Speaker 2: No, No, I didn't go to New Orleans.
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: Or were those just the pictures that.
- 1:33:54Speaker 7: You remember it the memories because we would that's what
- 1:33:57we would have been in New Orleans, somewhere.
- 1:33:59Speaker 2: We'd have been some we've been somewhere. But it was
- 1:34:05just hard, like.
- 1:34:08Speaker 7: And like now, his birthday was the sixth, and like
- 1:34:12my husband, I guy, now he understands, like he don't
- 1:34:14like get mad at me or what's wrong with you,
- 1:34:18He don't do none of that. He comforted me, he
- 1:34:21console me, and and you know, it's okay. And that's
- 1:34:27what that's what real love is like if a person
- 1:34:30can accept the things that you're going through and hugging
- 1:34:34you while you're going through it.
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: Hey, you in the right spot. You're in the right place.
- 1:34:38Speaker 7: Because a lot of means will not do it like
- 1:34:41at all?
- 1:34:41Speaker 2: Like at all?
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: So here we are here, it's been four years. This
- 1:34:47is the fourth birthday without him. Where are you in
- 1:34:53your mind? Now?
- 1:34:57Speaker 2: Okad, I'm at peace. I had to let it go.
- 1:35:07Speaker 7: I to get his clothes. I still had his clothes.
- 1:35:11Oh my god, choose cologne. I had to give my grandson,
- 1:35:15our grandson all this cologne.
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: I hear that all the time.
- 1:35:20Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god.
- 1:35:23Speaker 7: So one day I got up, I got up the lord,
- 1:35:28I'm ready release.
- 1:35:32Speaker 2: Release.
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: Was it something in you that you knew you were?
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: It wasn't your time?
- 1:35:39Speaker 7: It was time because after you passed away, I went
- 1:35:44like eighteen months. I conversated, but like on a friendly thing,
- 1:35:51nothing more or nothing less. But after eighteen months, I
- 1:35:55was like, ooh, I got to he wouldn't want me
- 1:36:02doing this.
- 1:36:05Speaker 1: When I was putting this episode together, they said, after
- 1:36:10about a year and a half or two years, is
- 1:36:12when you finally are ready to.
- 1:36:15Speaker 2: Like eighteen months, will get.
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: Rid of Yeah, get rid of their clothes, because they
- 1:36:19said that that's the last thing you get rid of
- 1:36:21is their clothes. You know, you'll you'll get rid of
- 1:36:23you know when it first happens, you know, oh yeah,
- 1:36:25you can have the car, you can have this, But
- 1:36:27the clothes they something.
- 1:36:30Speaker 2: To take his. I used to take his jacket and
- 1:36:34scent smell it.
- 1:36:36Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought, when the one that they cut him
- 1:36:38out of, I just thow that away. Eighteen when eighteen,
- 1:36:43the eighteen months that I was into it, add in
- 1:36:46the bag, I just smell it.
- 1:36:49Speaker 2: So what they cut him out of and I got
- 1:36:53rid of it, I had to let it go.
- 1:36:57Speaker 1: What was the hardest part of that for you?
- 1:37:02Speaker 2: Letting them go so much?
- 1:37:09Speaker 7: It's a lot like different things, Like like I said,
- 1:37:12the traveling, the being's watching my NFL sports Alabama fans.
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: We roll ties all day long, and you know we're.
- 1:37:25Speaker 7: Watching college football, We're watching NFL football basketball. You know,
- 1:37:32him taking me, tell me to an NFL game the
- 1:37:34Cincinnati Bengals. I went there and tooking together, getting in
- 1:37:40our jacuzzi, just having that meantime, quite the time together
- 1:37:45that that was. That plays a big part in our
- 1:37:49relationship that we had.
- 1:37:51Speaker 1: You know, So now that you're remarrying, do you see
- 1:37:56any qualities of him in your new husband?
- 1:38:00Speaker 7: Oh no, oh no, oh no, uh uh huh, you
- 1:38:04already know. Oh no, day night and day. Well, when
- 1:38:09I say the one, I am not as humble.
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: You know, your brother in law, a true.
- 1:38:18Speaker 7: A true sagittary to the heart, got on my nerve.
- 1:38:22Now when he passed away, I said, Lord, he didn't
- 1:38:24get on my nerve.
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: Lord, but God had to give you him to find
- 1:38:31who you really, truly were meant to be with. And
- 1:38:34that's not to say that that was not your love,
- 1:38:36because he was. Because you got to experience true love.
- 1:38:39Because I remember the conversations we had when I was
- 1:38:42with old boy and and you know, when you were
- 1:38:44talking down the highs and the lords.
- 1:38:47Speaker 7: But you know when you say that, say that, I'll
- 1:38:51be ready to throw up.
- 1:38:52Speaker 1: Girl, I can't want your name. Who bet is a mess,
- 1:39:00A whole bottle of Crown Roll. I'm gonna get.
- 1:39:01Speaker 2: You on, babe.
- 1:39:03Speaker 7: You know I don't even drink, but I probably drink
- 1:39:04some Crown roll. You tell me what's going on.
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: Baby, This is, this is hennessy with this is I
- 1:39:10don't know, no.
- 1:39:11Speaker 2: Moon moon shine, moonshine.
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: Because that's that's we'll talk about that on the back end.
- 1:39:19Speaker 2: We got to talk about that on them.
- 1:39:20Speaker 7: You know, we can't say I can't say too much
- 1:39:23on here because people be trying to figure out this,
- 1:39:25that and the other. It's cool, but like I say,
- 1:39:28the biggest part of thieving went downing it just who
- 1:39:34he was. He was the life of the party. He
- 1:39:37was a family man. He was a hard working man.
- 1:39:40He loved everybody, anybody come in contact with. He's gonna feed, help, cook, baby, cook, cook.
- 1:39:49Speaker 2: We love to cook. I just just missed the adventures.
- 1:39:54Speaker 7: Holding hand, walking on the beach, you know, watching the
- 1:39:58sunset come up, watching them uh you know, sun go down,
- 1:40:03you know, being in the mountains with him. It's doing
- 1:40:05you know, adventurous things together and you know, him just
- 1:40:11loving on me, loving me past my pain or any word,
- 1:40:15just making sure I was okay, we was okay, you know.
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: And I think, you know a lemon not even say
- 1:40:22I think I know for a fact that he is
- 1:40:26looking and he is smiling. He's like, she's smiling again. Yeah,
- 1:40:32you want that for you? And I think I believe
- 1:40:35that you can't experience true love twice. I believe you can't.
- 1:40:43I believe that first one prepares you for the one
- 1:40:46that you're gonna go with.
- 1:40:48Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is it.
- 1:40:52Speaker 7: Yeah, for this, I'm gonna be by myself.
- 1:40:57Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that because.
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: We is getting too old, trying to figure out what
- 1:41:04your favorite color is.
- 1:41:06Speaker 7: I ain't no teenage or nothing, and what you like
- 1:41:07to eat and all that.
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: Sit up home till three.
- 1:41:10Speaker 2: My nerves A look, my nerves ain't patient.
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: Do you hear me?
- 1:41:15Speaker 2: I know?
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: Somebody all over again.
- 1:41:19Speaker 7: That's the part I'm talking about. That's why I said
- 1:41:21I'm good.
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: I told my husband that. He was like, would you
- 1:41:23move on if I passed? I was like, let me
- 1:41:25tell you something. It's gonna take a minute, I say, Baby,
- 1:41:28I'm knocking on fifty, sir. I said, you ain't fifty.
- 1:41:33Speaker 2: You ain't fifty yet.
- 1:41:35Speaker 1: Almost you have your fifty.
- 1:41:37Speaker 2: Boy, I'm you know my grand bay bout that in Texas?
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: Uh in Houston?
- 1:41:41Speaker 2: Yeah, here's yes where you're at. I have to come
- 1:41:44see you gap come on. My son wanted me.
- 1:41:48Speaker 7: To move after. I ain't got time. They be driving
- 1:41:51too fast up there, Houston. You have been been a
- 1:41:54randover your sister.
- 1:41:55Speaker 1: I'll be driving, I told him. I said, but you're
- 1:41:58from Los Angeles, baby, I said, you should be use
- 1:42:00of this. I say, because on y'all inter state, y'all
- 1:42:02drive like y'all on the NASCAR racetrac.
- 1:42:07Speaker 2: I got out here and my.
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: Pool little sixty seventy on the Inner State. Baby, they
- 1:42:13want you to just run, run, run, run run. Well,
- 1:42:17you staying on, I'm gonna go ahead and wrap up
- 1:42:18the show.
- 1:42:19Speaker 2: Yeah, because I got the Uh, I got to get out.
- 1:42:22Speaker 7: My little niece keep blowing my phone. I got to
- 1:42:24pick up from work. That's who kept calling my phone.
- 1:42:28And she texted me and said she off work.
- 1:42:32Speaker 1: And her phone goes again, her phone goes again. Well,
- 1:42:42once I wrap up, I'm gonna call you. Well, her
- 1:42:45phone hangs up again, but I want to go ahead
- 1:42:49and I'm gonna end on this note. Losing her spouse
- 1:42:54is never easy, having to sit down and make arrangements,
- 1:43:03those final arrangements for your loved one. It's never easy,
- 1:43:07but those conversations are absolutely imperative. True love can happen again.
- 1:43:19When that person leaves, your life continues. It's like a book.
- 1:43:27You gotta flip the page and you gotta pick the
- 1:43:28pin up and you gotta write again. No one ever
- 1:43:34wants to lose their spouse, no one ever plans for that.
- 1:43:37But there's my cousin. What's good cousin. We're gonna hit
- 1:43:42you up this weekend. We got a track for you.
- 1:43:46Let me just say that, we gotta track for you, baby,
- 1:43:51We got a track for you. So losing a spouse again,
- 1:43:56it's never easy. Sometimes it's unexpected. Sometimes we know either
- 1:44:05way we have to do. I want you to be
- 1:44:12kind to yourself, be easy to yourself, be gentle, and
- 1:44:20if you know someone that's grieving, extend some type of grace,
- 1:44:26show some type of empathy. Because it's heavy, it's heavy
- 1:44:32because it's a bad man. You gotta hear this song, man,
- 1:44:36This song is live, I promise it is. But be
- 1:44:40kind and be gentle to people, not just in the
- 1:44:44holiday season, but every day, because someone's grieving something, someone's
- 1:44:49going through something. I want to thank my soul Step
- 1:44:52for coming on tonight and sharing her story and what
- 1:44:55it was like and how she's bounced back since losing
- 1:44:59her It's been four years ago. I mean some of
- 1:45:09the word episode without a whole lot of crime. Y'all
- 1:45:11know me, but I want to say I love y'all
- 1:45:14so so so much. Black Girl interrupt. The podcast will
- 1:45:17be back next Tuesday again for the month of December.
- 1:45:20We're discussing everything grief. So next week's episode will be
- 1:45:26what is grief and how do you deal with it?
- 1:45:30I will have a special guest with me next Wednesday,
- 1:45:32so y'all tune in for that. I stream live to
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- 1:46:46So I just want to say to y'all, I love y'all,
- 1:46:49God bless y'all. I hope y'all enjoy the rest of
- 1:46:51your night. I hope you have a beautiful and yet
- 1:46:53amazing rest of the week. And be kind to yourself,
- 1:46:56Be easy to yourself, take care of your mental baby,
- 1:46:58put them boundaries. Start telling people no because you all
- 1:47:03to yourself because you only get one life. Ain't no
- 1:47:08do overs, ain't no take backs, ain't no rewinding. It
- 1:47:15still goes on. But I love y'all, God bless y'all,
- 1:47:19and I'll see y'all next Tuesday, seven pm. Cut your time,
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- 1:47:34I'm not ready just yet, but I love y'all. God
- 1:47:38bless you. I'm praying for you, I'm ruining for you.
- 1:47:40Whatever it is that you're going through, you're gonna make
- 1:47:43it over. I promise you're gonna be a okay. Love you,
- 1:47:48holl love
- 1:48:02Speaker 2: What would be