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Adam Gets Pied in the Face · I Hate Talking

• 0:31
  I Hate Talking: Welcome to episode 89 of I Hate Talking.
• 0:34
  I Hate Talking: Hi everyone.
• 0:35
  I Hate Talking: So we are back with a full episode and we will jump right into our word or phrase of the episode, and that word is the word a plum.
• 0:47
  I Hate Talking: A plum, a plum.
• 0:49
  I Hate Talking: -- It sounds -- British.
• 0:51
  I Hate Talking: I think it might be.
• 0:52
  I Hate Talking: It actually might be somehow related to a British etymology, but we'll get to that momentarily.
• 0:59
  I Hate Talking: Now, the reason that this came up as a word or phrase of the episode is that whenever I encounter a word that I've never seen before, it does interest me, and this was a particular word that was used from a friend in a text message.
• 1:15
  I Hate Talking: And I, it was a very appropriate word to use, but I had to actually look it up.
• 1:20
  I Hate Talking: So that will become our word or phrase of this episode is the word a plumb.
• 1:26
  I Hate Talking: Can you use it in context so I can guess what it means?
• 1:29
  I Hate Talking: I suppose so.
• 1:30
  I Hate Talking: Let me see if I can read the text message, and that will give us the context.
• 1:36
  I Hate Talking: So this particular text message reads, while I've never been a cub master, I know that it is insanely difficult, and you handled it with a plumb.
• 1:48
  I Hate Talking: Oh wow, that's very different context than I would have guessed.
• 1:53
  I Hate Talking: Yes.
• 1:54
  I Hate Talking: And nothing against this person.
• 1:56
  I Hate Talking: I thought it was a typo typo when I first read it.
• 2:01
  I Hate Talking: It did, yes.
• 2:02
  I Hate Talking: So I looked it up and saw that it was a word and it's a very appropriate word.
• 2:07
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, good for him.
• 2:08
  I Hate Talking: OK, so, I mean, given that context, I mean, it must mean like a good job or something like that.
• 2:18
  I Hate Talking: Yes, so, from our favorite Oxford language dictionary, it gives one definition of a plum as a noun, and it is defined as self-confidence or assurance, especially when in a demanding situation.
• 2:38
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 2:39
  I Hate Talking: So the particular example that the Oxford Language Dictionary gives is she passed the test with a plumb.
• 2:47
  I Hate Talking: So just, yeah, having, doing a good job, but being confident that you will do a good job or that you did do a good job.
• 2:53
  I Hate Talking: Yes, and especially in a demanding situation.
• 2:56
  I Hate Talking: So, that is a specific thing.
• 2:59
  I Hate Talking: That a plum applies to is that you're not just self-confident or self-assured in a normal everyday situation, but when these demanding situations present themselves, that you act with a plum.
• 3:14
  I Hate Talking: So some similar words are poise or self-assurance and self-confidence, so that is the word a plumb.
• 3:23
  I Hate Talking: Cool It reminds me, can I self-indulge for a quick second?
• 3:29
  I Hate Talking: Cause I haven't told you this.
• 3:30
  I Hate Talking: That someone reminded me today at a play date that this was said last week about me and I was like, oh yeah, and it reminds me of that.
• 3:39
  I Hate Talking: I said, cutting into the conversation of the text message I got where it says, you're always up for an adventure.
• 3:47
  I Hate Talking: That's one thing I love about you.
• 3:49
  I Hate Talking: You don't back down from any adventure and you run straight into it head first with your hair perfectly curled and a smile on your face.
• 3:57
  I Hate Talking: That made me so happy.
• 3:59
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I think that's a very apt description I like doing a lot.
• 4:03
  I Hate Talking: Tackle new adventures and new situations, indeed.
• 4:08
  I Hate Talking: So would a plum always be in the positive?
• 4:12
  I Hate Talking: Or would there be times that you'd be confident in a hard situation?
• 4:17
  I Hate Talking: That's not positive, because you can be confident.
• 4:21
  I Hate Talking: And still really screw up or not know what you're doing.
• 4:25
  I Hate Talking: So, I suppose we can look at the etymology and that may answer a little bit of the question.
• 4:33
  I Hate Talking: It does seem that some of the additional extended definitions refer to complete and confident composure, self-assurance, or poise, especially when handling difficult or demanding situations with coolness and grace.
• 4:47
  I Hate Talking: So it does seem that this is not like a false self-confidence, but that it's actually a Real self-confidence that you're handling the situation appropriately and well, even though it may be difficult, and you're doing so with composure and confidence.
• 5:06
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 5:07
  I Hate Talking: So, this actually comes from the French.
• 5:10
  I Hate Talking: And it is from.
• 5:14
  I Hate Talking: The French word a plumb, which is according to the plumb line.
• 5:20
  I Hate Talking: So basically, if there is a plumb line that is going to be perfectly balanced because it is going to hang directly straight towards the center of the earth based on gravity.
• 5:31
  I Hate Talking: Which is actually not true because the spin of the earth will actually change the angle of a plumb line very, very small amount.
• 5:43
  I Hate Talking: So that was one of the particular questions that stumped many, many engineering and physics majors in my college coursework.
• 5:52
  I Hate Talking: What question?
• 5:53
  I Hate Talking: Like you're, the question was something about how, like if you were at this point on the Earth, and it's spinning, that based on the centrifugal force of the earth and the acceleration of gravity, how much of the plumb line is displaced by the centrifugal force.
• 6:15
  I Hate Talking: And not hanging straight towards the center of the earth based on gravity.
• 6:20
  I Hate Talking: So, Like when you take a bucket full of water and then you spin it and the water falls out.
• 6:28
  I Hate Talking: If you put a strain in the middle.
• 6:31
  I Hate Talking: Theoretically, the string would stay in the middle when you spin it also.
• 6:36
  I Hate Talking: Is that what the idea is, but it doesn't, it moves a little bit.
• 6:39
  I Hate Talking: Well, I think that's an example of centripetal force, not centrifugal force, but the plumb line is a tool that is used by Masons or other construction trades where you basically take a small bit of weight, usually a metal weight, hang it from a line or string, and when you place that line or string from the top of the wall, that weight will hang straight down, so it gives you basically a straight edge or a line in order to build the wall or construct whatever you are constructing.
• 7:20
  I Hate Talking: Oh, OK, I picture that.
• 7:22
  I Hate Talking: Yes, so the spin of the earth actually displaces that plumb line an infinitesimal amount.
• 7:30
  I Hate Talking: It does not really matter for bricklaying or mason or other construction projects, but that was the question in our physics book.
• 7:38
  I Hate Talking: Oh.
• 7:39
  I Hate Talking: So that was a bit of an aside, but the plumb line is where the word a plum or and then became used in the English as a plum.
• 7:50
  I Hate Talking: is from the plumb line, and this is based on the fact that the French use that term as basically a term that meant according to the plummet.
• 8:05
  I Hate Talking: Which connects to the idea of being perfectly upright and balanced.
• 8:10
  I Hate Talking: So when you are acting with this self-assurance or confidence that you are perfectly upright and balanced.
• 8:17
  I Hate Talking: So, again, these are all positive things.
• 8:19
  I Hate Talking: So I think a plumb would be used primarily and perhaps exclusively in the positive.
• 8:26
  I Hate Talking: OK, yeah.
• 8:27
  I Hate Talking: So that was our interesting vocabulary word of this particular episode from that particular text message.
• 8:35
  I Hate Talking: A plum.
• 8:36
  I Hate Talking: Nice.
• 8:37
  I Hate Talking: So speaking of perfectly upright and poised, I did my best to stay perfectly upright and poised during pies in the face.
• 8:48
  I Hate Talking: So that is a particular annual tradition that we do at our particular Cub Scout pack that for scouts that sell a certain amount of fundraising product that if they achieve that threshold, they are.
• 9:09
  I Hate Talking: gifted the opportunity to pie the cubmaster and the assistant cubmaster, or I guess not both.
• 9:16
  I Hate Talking: This year we made them choose one or the other.
• 9:19
  I Hate Talking: And They get to enjoy that as fruits of their labor in terms of performing all their fundraising efforts.
• 9:27
  I Hate Talking: Right, OK, so we haven't gotten to talk about this.
• 9:29
  I Hate Talking: Why did you only do one this year?
• 9:32
  I Hate Talking: Because in the past they have gotten 2 pies, and they could do both of you or 2 on one person.
• 9:38
  I Hate Talking: So the primary reason is because of just the sheer number of scouts that actually achieved that threshold.
• 9:46
  I Hate Talking: So typically it's maybe 1015, but this year, I believe we actually had 28 individual scouts achieve that.
• 9:57
  I Hate Talking: So we basically did the same number of pies.
• 10:02
  I Hate Talking: It's just that they were distributed among a larger number of scouts.
• 10:06
  I Hate Talking: So the Assistant cup master and myself received probably the same number of actual pies, but it was just, like I said, spread among a greater population.
• 10:16
  I Hate Talking: And it's not technically pies for anyone listening who wouldn't know.
• 10:21
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 10:22
  I Hate Talking: What is, yes, it's not pies, but I would eat the whole fundraiser if you had like apple pie thrown in your face.
• 10:30
  I Hate Talking: That would, the cost of 28 apple pies would be like how much we raised.
• 10:36
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 10:37
  I Hate Talking: I don't think apple pies are typically what people have thrown at them, but I'd want apple.
• 10:42
  I Hate Talking: I'd want chocolate.
• 10:43
  I Hate Talking: I'd be OK with that.
• 10:44
  I Hate Talking: -- A chocolate -- pie.
• 10:46
  I Hate Talking: I don't know if you'd actually be OK with that because.
• 10:48
  I Hate Talking: The reason that we don't do even like just simple whipped cream is because it will in that amount sting your eyes.
• 10:59
  I Hate Talking: It will cause like breathing problems if you are like inhaling the whipped cream, fumes and sugars, and it will destroy clothes because of the chemical composition of the, the cream and the sugar.
• 11:15
  I Hate Talking: That's crazy.
• 11:16
  I Hate Talking: I never knew any of that, and I always wondered why you guys didn't actually use whipped cream, cause at least that is tastier.
• 11:23
  I Hate Talking: Yes, but also more painful and you're basically, you're going to throw away the clothes if you, if you do that.
• 11:30
  I Hate Talking: So we use shaving cream instead and it's I guess, I mean, I've never had the whipped cream experience, but I've heard horror stories from people that have done it that way.
• 11:43
  I Hate Talking: And so the whipped cream is not something we do.
• 11:47
  I Hate Talking: We do the shaving cream method and that seems to be a much more enjoyable experience.
• 11:52
  I Hate Talking: And then your clothes are even cleaner than before.
• 11:56
  I Hate Talking: And is it similar, cause you shave, Obviously, I don't shave my face.
• 12:02
  I Hate Talking: I've never had shaving cream on my face, but as you're keeping your mouth quiet and closed, as they're throwing it, I guess it's probably a similar sensation.
• 12:14
  I Hate Talking: As when you're shaving your beard, right?
• 12:16
  I Hate Talking: No, because I would take a little squirt of shaving cream and spread it gently on my cheeks and chin and facial hair areas, whereas these are plates that are being slammed into my face and ears -- and but -- you've gotten shaving cream in your mouth before, probably when you were learning to shave maybe.
• 12:39
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, maybe not to this extent.
• 12:42
  I Hate Talking: So we do wear like diving masks, so that does protect our eyes and nose, but nonetheless, some does get in one's mouth and it's not terrible, but it's not great either.
• 12:54
  I Hate Talking: And then your, uh, buddy at one point that got it also saying something when one got thrown at him.
• 13:01
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, oh no, because I think his mouth was open and I think it went all in.
• 13:06
  I Hate Talking: Oh my goodness.
• 13:06
  I Hate Talking: -- So -- it was unfortunate.
• 13:08
  I Hate Talking: By the end of the evening, the diving masks are basically covered and you really don't have any visual acuity at that point.
• 13:15
  I Hate Talking: And then in the ear is the worst.
• 13:18
  I Hate Talking: So you got a good one I did, I did get one that made it to the area of my ear and that was quite uncomfortable.
• 13:26
  I Hate Talking: And that was like the first thing that I did when I got home was take a shower and like rinse out my ear as best as possible.
• 13:32
  I Hate Talking: A parent asked me when that happened, they're like, is that allowed?
• 13:35
  I Hate Talking: I was like, well, They did it.
• 13:38
  I Hate Talking: Like it's kind of too late.
• 13:40
  I Hate Talking: Like, -- it's not -- allowed.
• 13:42
  I Hate Talking: It's not encouraged, but it was done and I don't think he meant it maliciously.
• 13:48
  I Hate Talking: It's not like he's trying to hurt you.
• 13:50
  I Hate Talking: There are kids and they're throwing things and, you know, I think it, I mean, it is what it is.
• 13:57
  I Hate Talking: It is um impressive, you're very plum.
• 14:01
  I Hate Talking: And so was your partner who did this, because The kids want a reaction like.
• 14:08
  I Hate Talking: I mean, they want a good reaction, like when your goggles are all full of the shaving cream, when you like use your fingers to like windshield wipe them off, so funny, and they laugh so much.
• 14:22
  I Hate Talking: So they like those kind of reactions, but I could see you getting a little frustrated, maybe a few were really hard hitters, like, oh, that was too rough, buddy, and stuff like that, but you guys are very Kind about it, and just take it no matter what.
• 14:40
  I Hate Talking: And then some also barely throw it at you, or like, they just barely place it like on your chest.
• 14:46
  I Hate Talking: And you have the same reaction for both, you know, and make it exciting for the kids.
• 14:52
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 14:54
  I Hate Talking: I guess that's why National Cub Scouting has banned the practice, but we still do it in secret.
• 15:00
  I Hate Talking: So don't tell anybody.
• 15:01
  I Hate Talking: OK, podcast world, do not tell anyone.
• 15:04
  I Hate Talking: Uh, we still do this.
• 15:07
  I Hate Talking: Indeed.
• 15:08
  I Hate Talking: I mean we do it after the event.
• 15:12
  I Hate Talking: It's not like a quote unquote sanctioned.
• 15:15
  I Hate Talking: Cub Scout thing that is actually why we do it after the event.
• 15:19
  I Hate Talking: So like we did for the cleanup.
• 15:21
  I Hate Talking: Well, I mean that is helpful too, but like we close our official Cub Scout event and then we do this as sort of a side event.
• 15:29
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, and I mean, I definitely could see it and you would never want to do it to a child or a younger adult like for hazing issues or anything, but there is something the kids get so excited and so motivated.
• 15:45
  I Hate Talking: To fundraise to pie you in the face, and it's fun because it's an entire like.
• 15:53
  I Hate Talking: What 4 or 5 months of this back and forth where you make a big thing about like, oh, don't, no, we're not doing that.
• 16:00
  I Hate Talking: And then they're like, yes, we are, and you kind of like pretend like, oh no, I forgot, and it's a real fun back and forth game with them.
• 16:09
  I Hate Talking: Indeed, it, it does seem to be an enjoyable thing for the 3 or 4 months that we do our fundraising and then conclude with this as sort of our capstone.
• 16:20
  I Hate Talking: We also do a pizza party, that's less.
• 16:23
  I Hate Talking: Shaving cream and.
• 16:25
  I Hate Talking: All that stuff, so we haven't done that yet.
• 16:28
  I Hate Talking: -- We have to do our -- pizza party.
• 16:30
  I Hate Talking: So gotta do that.
• 16:30
  I Hate Talking: And our kids fundraise well because it's for you.
• 16:35
  I Hate Talking: They get to put that in there for like family and friends, and they're very motivated then I think to help them reach their goals.
• 16:43
  I Hate Talking: Because they take so much pride in you being their father.
• 16:47
  I Hate Talking: That is true.
• 16:49
  I Hate Talking: That is like their quintessential pitch, yes, is that they get to pie me in the face if they reach their goals, and it does seem to motivate a lot of people to donate and -- support through -- purchases.
• 17:03
  I Hate Talking: So this was your 3rd year doing it, right?
• 17:05
  I Hate Talking: I suppose so, yeah, that sounds right.
• 17:08
  I Hate Talking: Is there anything that worked better or worse in those three years' experience?
• 17:14
  I Hate Talking: Our first year, we didn't know anything, right?
• 17:17
  I Hate Talking: We, the previous cub master had told you some tips.
• 17:22
  I Hate Talking: On like, do this and do that.
• 17:24
  I Hate Talking: And so we're like, oh, OK.
• 17:26
  I Hate Talking: And then I feel like every year, at least my prep for you has gotten better.
• 17:32
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I'm trying to recall what we did 3 years ago because I do recall that like 2 years ago, I think I even wore like a trash bag and then the diving mask.
• 17:42
  I Hate Talking: This year, I didn't.
• 17:43
  I Hate Talking: I just wore the diving mask and then just had a sweatshirt and pants on.
• 17:47
  I Hate Talking: So, in wearing that just sweatshirt and plain pants, I think that actually made it more enjoyable for the scouts as well because they had the opportunity to like, You know, not only throw the pie at my face, but also if they missed, it landed on my clothing, which I think made it also more enjoyable for them as well.
• 18:07
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, here's one year.
• 18:08
  I Hate Talking: OK, yeah, so I didn't wear a trash bag that year.
• 18:11
  I Hate Talking: It was last year.
• 18:12
  I Hate Talking: I think it was 2 years ago.
• 18:13
  I Hate Talking: -- That was 2 -- years ago.
• 18:15
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, this last, I don't think you wore a trash bag ever.
• 18:18
  I Hate Talking: Well, apparently, neither did my counterpart.
• 18:20
  I Hate Talking: So I don't know why I'm thinking that that was a true thing, but.
• 18:24
  I Hate Talking: No, the last two years you wore a Santa hat, yes, I did wear a Santa hat.
• 18:29
  I Hate Talking: I had my elf hat this year.
• 18:30
  I Hate Talking: I think previous to me doing it.
• 18:34
  I Hate Talking: Previous people wore trash bags.
• 18:37
  I Hate Talking: So hopefully I set a new standard.
• 18:39
  I Hate Talking: The last two years you wore the same shirt.
• 18:43
  I Hate Talking: You did not this year, but it was also much colder.
• 18:46
  I Hate Talking: That's what I was most worried about and why I thought maybe you guys only did one pie a kid was because it was below freezing outside and we needed to get done quickly and the amount of just literally freezing, having shaving cream thrown at you for that extended period of time seemed unhealthy.
• 19:07
  I Hate Talking: I suppose so.
• 19:09
  I Hate Talking: Uh, it was actually warmer by the end of the event, -- but -- you wore a sweater, but it was probably the, the insulating factor of the shaving cream, I guess.
• 19:18
  I Hate Talking: Cause you know I'm pretty much covered by the end of it, so this year -- I think -- it's true, uh, no, I'm serious, like I think the shaving cream on my face and head actually made me warmer.
• 19:31
  I Hate Talking: Well, yeah, because you don't feel like the wind chill or anything like that.
• 19:36
  I Hate Talking: It's like an insulating thing that's over your face itself.
• 19:38
  I Hate Talking: No, I don't particularly remember it being too cold.
• 19:44
  I Hate Talking: No.
• 19:45
  I Hate Talking: OK, well then, there, so that's the life hack we're telling people, huh?
• 19:48
  I Hate Talking: Cover yourself in shaving cream when you're cold.
• 19:51
  I Hate Talking: I mean, it is actually a life hack, right?
• 19:54
  I Hate Talking: Because you're supposed to, it like blow freezing and it, particularly in wind, you're supposed to put Vaseline on your skin so that it stays warm and doesn't dry out.
• 20:04
  I Hate Talking: Oh, that is like a real life hack.
• 20:06
  I Hate Talking: So, so I guess shaving cream is a good stand-in for that as well, I guess.
• 20:11
  I Hate Talking: So there you go.
• 20:12
  I Hate Talking: All right, the temperature did not have anything to do with the Pies and the number of scouts, it was simply a lot of people and We did one each.
• 20:23
  I Hate Talking: OK, I believe that.
• 20:25
  I Hate Talking: And a fun thing for this year was because you were wearing an elf hat.
• 20:29
  I Hate Talking: That I don't know how it ended up getting, cause they were, the children were standing in front of you, but somehow a pie, cause again, it's a paper plate with shaving cream on it.
• 20:44
  I Hate Talking: The paper plates were yellow.
• 20:46
  I Hate Talking: Just yellow paper plates.
• 20:49
  I Hate Talking: And somehow that got stuck behind your elf hat I was standing up.
• 20:58
  I Hate Talking: And so all the kids thought it was so funny cause it looked like the sun.
• 21:01
  I Hate Talking: It was like setting behind your head, cause you had a big yellow plate stuck in the back of your head facing us, and I don't know how that happened.
• 21:13
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I was not even aware of this until after the fact when I was like, saw the photos because I, maybe the.
• 21:21
  I Hate Talking: 5th or 6th pie, you really don't have a lot of situational awareness.
• 21:25
  I Hate Talking: So you can't see anything, you may not even be able to hear anything, and you're sort of just going with the flow at that point.
• 21:32
  I Hate Talking: So are you like, at that point, just kind of been like, when is this done?
• 21:37
  I Hate Talking: Or is it fun?
• 21:38
  I Hate Talking: No, it's still fun.
• 21:41
  I Hate Talking: Now, when our person that was proceeding over the pies said that we had extra and people could go again, I was like, no, let's, let's just end it there.
• 21:52
  I Hate Talking: So, that was a little bit much, but we, we made it through.
• 21:57
  I Hate Talking: Oh, OK.
• 21:58
  I Hate Talking: So you got a little bummed then when you're like, oh no, -- we're doing this -- again we're doing another round.
• 22:03
  I Hate Talking: No, let's just end there but it was fine.
• 22:06
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 22:07
  I Hate Talking: So that is our routine for pie in the face for fundraising activities.
• 22:14
  I Hate Talking: So would you recommend it to other people?
• 22:17
  I Hate Talking: Like as a fun thing to do or as like an incentive to raise money?
• 22:25
  I Hate Talking: Sure, either one.
• 22:26
  I Hate Talking: So I, I mean, it does seem to be an effective way to incentivize scouts to raise money to hit that certain threshold.
• 22:33
  I Hate Talking: I would not choose to do that if that was not the case.
• 22:37
  I Hate Talking: So like this is not something I would do just for fun without some sort of benefit to the general pack and not just for the fun of the scouts.
• 22:48
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 22:48
  I Hate Talking: So this isn't something that you find enjoyable per se, but you are happy to do it.
• 22:56
  I Hate Talking: For the good of the pack as a whole, yes.
• 23:00
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 23:01
  I Hate Talking: Is there anything in the future that you would do differently?
• 23:05
  I Hate Talking: Mm No, I don't suppose so.
• 23:08
  I Hate Talking: I mean, it doesn't really bother me that it is in winter, that we do it when it's cold.
• 23:13
  I Hate Talking: And I think that like if people are going to take this upon themselves and like start this tradition or something, I think the critical thing is that you have to have at minimum goggles and really a full face dive mask that covers your eyes and your nose is highly recommended.
• 23:32
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, what would happen if it got inside your nose?
• 23:35
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I mean, it would just basically be hard to breathe and It would be sort of miserable to make it to the end.
• 23:44
  I Hate Talking: And then I think it'd even be worse if it got in your eyes that you'd be like, yeah, you can't wash them out.
• 23:50
  I Hate Talking: You just have to sit there until all the pies have been thrown.
• 23:53
  I Hate Talking: And then that's a bummer because if you're in pain and not enjoying it, that kills the enjoyment for everyone else -- or makes it even more -- fun.
• 24:02
  I Hate Talking: Oh, maybe.
• 24:04
  I Hate Talking: But yeah, the whole windshield wiper idea is fun.
• 24:07
  I Hate Talking: It gets fun.
• 24:08
  I Hate Talking: But we always lay down like a mat, like a tarp, right, that we can clean off easily.
• 24:15
  I Hate Talking: To -- protect the grass or whatever and -- we're doing it outside, yes.
• 24:19
  I Hate Talking: A good thing that happened this year was all the pies, quote unquote pies, were already pre-made and waiting, cause past years we've done them, we've had maybe a little bit.
• 24:34
  I Hate Talking: Before we started, and then we're filling them while we're going.
• 24:38
  I Hate Talking: And it gets kind of chaotic and rushed.
• 24:41
  I Hate Talking: And so I appreciate that they're all there and we could just pick them up and hand them to the kid.
• 24:45
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 24:47
  I Hate Talking: I wanted to initially, have each child hold their pie and get around you for a photo.
• 24:54
  I Hate Talking: And quickly opted not to.
• 24:59
  I Hate Talking: I felt like they would just then just explode and it would be everywhere and on them, and everywhere else.
• 25:06
  I Hate Talking: So we have them stand in a line as much as we can.
• 25:10
  I Hate Talking: And take turns one at a time.
• 25:13
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 25:15
  I Hate Talking: You had that idea for this year or in previous years.
• 25:17
  I Hate Talking: This year, I wanted a picture of all of them with you.
• 25:19
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 25:21
  I Hate Talking: It is nice to have memories through photographs, but I'm of the opinion that it's better to still live in the moment and enjoy the pie and not have to worry about a photo.
• 25:33
  I Hate Talking: I do want chocolate pie now.
• 25:36
  I Hate Talking: That's what I keep thinking about since we started talking tonight.
• 25:39
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I, I'm not a big fan.
• 25:42
  I Hate Talking: No, I mean, no, I don't think so.
• 25:44
  I Hate Talking: -- We can't get -- it.
• 25:45
  I Hate Talking: I don't think so.
• 25:46
  I Hate Talking: I think they're sold out.
• 25:48
  I Hate Talking: I don't like pie, and like if I have to have a pie, it's gonna either be key lime pie is definitely a top favorite.
• 25:55
  I Hate Talking: Or pumpkin pie.
• 25:57
  I Hate Talking: Apple pie is good too, especially a la mode, but.
• 26:00
  I Hate Talking: I don't like chocolate.
• 26:02
  I Hate Talking: And I certainly don't like chocolate pie.
• 26:04
  I Hate Talking: I'll get myself pie.
• 26:06
  I Hate Talking: And I enjoy it.
• 26:08
  I Hate Talking: Without you That's fine.
• 26:11
  I Hate Talking: All right, so maybe that will be a topic for discussion sometime in the future on living in the moment versus documenting it, as well as our favorite kinds of pies.
• 26:24
  I Hate Talking: Cause you certainly would not want to eat a shaving cream pie.
• 26:28
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I feel like that would be bad, right?
• 26:31
  I Hate Talking: Yes, I think we can all agree that toxic?
• 26:33
  I Hate Talking: That would be terrible.
• 26:35
  I Hate Talking: I would imagine that probably at least that large quantity, yeah, if you had like a full plate of shaving cream, that would probably be a call to poison control.
• 26:46
  I Hate Talking: So if you have any particular favorite pies or an opinion on shaving cream.
• 26:53
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• 27:03
  I Hate Talking: So from your friends at I Hate Talking, until next time, remember, it is only through talking that we begin the journey to understanding.