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Member for Araluen Robyn Lambley says the Chief Minister’s position is untenable with the government facing enormous pressure from the community · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is the Independent Member
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  Speaker 1: for Ara lun Robin Lamley. Good morning to you, Robin.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning Katie.
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  Speaker 1: Robin. What do you make of these changes announced by
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  Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Chief Minister this morning?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Katie, clearly we've got a government on the run.
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  Speaker 2: They're on the hop. They have intentionally ignored the escalation
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  Speaker 2: of crime across the Northern Territory for many years now
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  Speaker 2: and it's got to the point where they can no
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  Speaker 2: longer ignore it, and now they're on the hop trying
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  Speaker 2: to think of creative ways of responding to a community
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  Speaker 2: that is outraged and in mourning. The pressure on the
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  Speaker 2: Chief Minister is enormous and so it should be, and
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  Speaker 2: I actually think her position is almost to the point
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  Speaker 2: of being untenable. After being dragged kicking and screaming into
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  Speaker 2: making some decisions and acting in response to the crime
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  Speaker 2: crisis in our springs in January by the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: of Australia, now we see a similar thing happening here
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  Speaker 2: in Darwin just a few months later. So, Robert, she
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  Speaker 2: has not been proactive, she has not had a plan.
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  Speaker 2: Everything that she's doing is clearly not working. And now
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  Speaker 2: she's scratching around trying to think of something else, so
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  Speaker 2: pretty pathetic.
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  Speaker 1: Robin, you feel that Chief Minister Natasha Files needs to
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  Speaker 1: stand down from her job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. When she took over from Gunner, I
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  Speaker 2: had some faith in her. A decent woman, a clear thinker,
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  Speaker 2: good on a feat. I thought she would offer territory
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  Speaker 2: in something more than Gunner. But I think what we've
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  Speaker 2: seen is a woman that is very limited. She is
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  Speaker 2: clearly focused on getting re elected rather than doing the
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  Speaker 2: right thing by territorians. And I think her lack of
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  Speaker 2: action and the fact that she has been dragged into
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  Speaker 2: responding to what is now a territory wide crime crisis
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  Speaker 2: screaming and kicking, means that for most of us we've
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  Speaker 2: lost respect for her. And I actually think it is
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  Speaker 2: time for her to go with her hopeless Attorney General,
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  Speaker 2: who has instigated a lot of these very lefty, sort
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  Speaker 2: of weak approaches to crime. He's been front and center
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  Speaker 2: in promoting the flow of alcohol through the Aboriginal living
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  Speaker 2: areas across the Northern Territory, which Albernezi came in and said,
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  Speaker 2: wake up to yourselfs you've got to read state those restrictions.
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  Speaker 2: You know both of them need to go. They're from
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  Speaker 2: the left to the left and that isn't good for anyone.
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  Speaker 2: That's bad politics for any society. You need moderate people
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  Speaker 2: in control who are sensible. These two lack common sense.
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  Speaker 1: Robin, based on these changes that have been announced this morning,
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  Speaker 1: just to step away from that for one moment. Based
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  Speaker 1: on these changes that have been announced this morning around
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  Speaker 1: edged weapons and reviewing the bail laws, I mean yourself,
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  Speaker 1: the Opposition leader, others have been calling for this and
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  Speaker 1: asking for this to happen for quite some time.
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  Speaker 2: Years yeah, years, and this is a major backslip for files.
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  Speaker 2: She's laughed at the Opposition leader even yesterday. Instead of
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  Speaker 2: looking remorseful and contrived and showing some respect for the
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  Speaker 2: family of this poor young man who was brutally murdered
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday night, they turned it into a comedy act.
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  Speaker 2: Minister Chancey pag stood in Parliament in the first our
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  Speaker 2: Government business parliamentary business, and had everyone on the government
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  Speaker 2: side laughing hysterically. They thought it was hilarious, tearing strips
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  Speaker 2: off the Opposition leader. But here we have the next day,
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  Speaker 2: less than twenty four hours later, the Chief Minister forced
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  Speaker 2: into agreeing with attempts made, multiple attempts made by the
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  Speaker 2: opposition leader Lea for Andochiio to address the problem with
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  Speaker 2: bail laws in the Northern territory. So you know, that's
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  Speaker 2: another reason why Natasha Phile's position really has become untenable,
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  Speaker 2: particularly over the last forty eight hours. He is a
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  Speaker 2: backflip of monumental proportions. You will not see back quite
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  Speaker 2: like this in usual in the usual run of mill
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  Speaker 2: of politics.
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  Speaker 1: Robin, A lot of us, you know, I'm listening to
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  Speaker 1: you this morning, and certainly a lot of people who
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  Speaker 1: listened to this show understand that the situation with crime
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  Speaker 1: has been deteriorating for quite some time. But the level
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  Speaker 1: that it is in in Alice Springs at the moment,
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  Speaker 1: and what we've seen unfold here this week, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's changed our way of life forever.
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  Speaker 2: It has changed our lives forever. And I say our
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  Speaker 2: now because I can include Darwin. I could see this coming,
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  Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people from outside of
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  Speaker 2: Darwin could see that the crime crisis we've been experiencing
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  Speaker 2: for years was on its way to Darwin. It's been culminating,
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  Speaker 2: and people listening will know that they've been seeing all
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  Speaker 2: the signs appearing for years. So you've joined a very
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  Speaker 2: sad and sorry club. And that is the fact that
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  Speaker 2: our way of life, the easy going, relaxed territory lifestyle,
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  Speaker 2: has now been completely compromised by crime. And the the
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  Speaker 2: government that has presided over this complete deterioration in law
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  Speaker 2: and order is this current Northern Territory Labor government. You
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  Speaker 2: can't pint on anyone else. You can't say, oh, it's
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  Speaker 2: happening everywhere, it's a problem for all jurisdictions. They are
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  Speaker 2: not experiencing crime quite like we are in the territory,
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  Speaker 2: bar places like the Kimberley and maybe parts of North Queensland.
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  Speaker 2: I go to New South Wales for my holidays, Northern
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  Speaker 2: New South Wales, where I originally come from. Crime does
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  Speaker 2: not exist in that part of the world like it
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  Speaker 2: does here. To flip it off and try and minimize it,
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  Speaker 2: like we heard minister after minister do in Parliament, or
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  Speaker 2: try to do in parliament last night and yesterday, was
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  Speaker 2: really quite offensive. They're still not taking ownership of it,
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  Speaker 2: they're still not taking responsibility for it. To dilute it
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  Speaker 2: and minimize it and flick it under the table and
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  Speaker 2: I don't think territory ins are that's stupid. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think they'll buy it.
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  Speaker 1: No, Look, I don't know that they will either. I
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  Speaker 1: know that some people are messaging through this morning that
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  Speaker 1: they're sort of saying, look, at least there's some changes
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  Speaker 1: that are coming into play. At least you know, the
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  Speaker 1: government's look at doing a review into the bail and
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  Speaker 1: certainly you know the capsicum spray for those transit safety officers,
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  Speaker 1: crowd control of security guards. But you know, the fact
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  Speaker 1: is that it's too little, too.
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  Speaker 2: Late, it is, Katie. Look, one thing I'm thankful for
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  Speaker 2: in the in Central Australia, and that is the fact
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  Speaker 2: that we have police on bottle shop and they've been
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  Speaker 2: in place since twenty eleven and they have been the
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  Speaker 2: single most effective strategy that we've seen throughout the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of decades in trying to address the problem of
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  Speaker 2: our in our community. And after what's happened in Darwin
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  Speaker 2: with the death of Declan, the murder of Declin, I
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  Speaker 2: can see very clearly that those police in place throughout
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  Speaker 2: all the opening hours of every bottle shop in my
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  Speaker 2: town and in Tenant Creek and in Catherine it keeps
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  Speaker 2: those workers safe.
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  Speaker 1: It certainly does. And Robin, you know, I think the
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  Speaker 1: thing that's really hit home for a lot of us
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  Speaker 1: over the last couple of days is hearing from Declan's
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  Speaker 1: mom and dad, And I just want to say, I like,
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  Speaker 1: I I am. I cannot thank his dad enough for
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  Speaker 1: being brave enough and being able to come on here
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  Speaker 1: and speak to us about his beautiful son. And I
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  Speaker 1: know that his mum has been out doing the same
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  Speaker 1: and his dad was on the Today Show this morning,
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, like, I'm really grateful for it
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  Speaker 1: because I think that what, you know, what it has
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  Speaker 1: done is it's just sort of it has united the
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  Speaker 1: Northern Territory in the sense that we're all grieving for
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  Speaker 1: this young fella, and you know, like we really do
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  Speaker 1: want this place to be better, and we want it
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  Speaker 1: to be better for him.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Absolutely. Look, I happen to get in the car
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  Speaker 2: on Monday at around eleven thirty and I heard your
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  Speaker 2: interview with Declan's father, and my god, that that was
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  Speaker 2: an extremely emotional interview. You handled it incredibly well, and
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was just amazing that that man was
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  Speaker 2: able to even speak, let alone be so reasonable and
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  Speaker 2: generous in his comments. You know, he's got a long
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  Speaker 2: way to go in terms of realizing his loss and grief.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we're all thinking of that family and
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  Speaker 2: that poor young man. It's just we're real comprehension and
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  Speaker 2: beyond words.
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  Speaker 1: Really it really is, it really is. Robin Lamley, I
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  Speaker 1: always appreciate your time. Please let us know how things
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  Speaker 1: go in parliament today. I really hope that we see
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  Speaker 1: some bloody better behavior, Katie.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just let people know the first item of
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  Speaker 2: business that the Government's decided to put on the agenda
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  Speaker 2: this morning when we go into Parliament in ten minutes time,
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  Speaker 2: is a motion to create a select committee on vaping.
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  Speaker 2: Not crime, not domestic violence, not child abuse and neglect,
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  Speaker 2: not the lack of policing, not any of the major
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  Speaker 2: issues that we care about in the territory. Today. They
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about vaping. And on that note, I
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  Speaker 2: wish you all the good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much, Robin. We always appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again later in the week.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.