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Justin Haskins Talks OBBB And The One Story You Don't Know, But Should · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: We have not a moment to lose, because Justin Haskins
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  Speaker 1: joins us for the third hour here this morning. It
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  Speaker 1: is Tuesday, August the twelfth. Can't believe it, Christmas already
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  Speaker 1: hitting some of the stores. It's crazy. Before you know it,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be here and then a new year will be here.
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  Speaker 1: But great to be with you, ruminators. That's Jose. I'm Preston,
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  Speaker 1: and here is Justin Haskins of the Heartland Institute, the
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  Speaker 1: website Stoppingsocialism dot com, writing books with Glenn Beck writing
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  Speaker 1: in general, justin, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing well, how are you?
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever think stoppingsocialism dot com would become so
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  Speaker 1: crucially important to a mayoral election in maybe the largest
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  Speaker 1: city in America?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did. I actually saw all of this
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  Speaker 2: coming many years ago, not specifically in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: Although the whole project for Stopping Socialism we have a
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  Speaker 2: Stopping Socialism TV channel by the way, on YouTube as well.
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  Speaker 2: You could check that out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The whole project was started as a reaction to Alexandria
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  Speaker 2: O Kazio Cortez winning her primary way back in twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: That was sort of the genesis of this idea, and
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  Speaker 2: it was because we saw when you actually it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just a New York thing. It was everywhere when you
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  Speaker 2: actually start looking at polling data, especially among younger people socialism.
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  Speaker 2: It depends on how you ask the question, but it's
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  Speaker 2: very clear when you try to get to the heart
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  Speaker 2: of it. Socialism is very popular amongst younger people and
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  Speaker 2: the next generation when they become the primary voting generation,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be a huge problem for this country.
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  Speaker 2: And that was the idea behind stopping socialism and the
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  Speaker 2: whole project that we build around it. Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: the videos, the website, We've done a lot of speeches
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  Speaker 2: and books and all kinds of stuff. So just it's
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  Speaker 2: it's vitally important. I mean just absolutely vitally important.
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  Speaker 1: Has visitation to the website gone up since mom Donnie
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  Speaker 1: won the primary.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll ever reach the heights of
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  Speaker 2: the Bernie Sanders presidential near presidential win. I think that
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  Speaker 2: that was probably the height of it. But I think
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  Speaker 2: we're going to see it skyrocket even more than what
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  Speaker 2: we've seen in the past in this next upcoming presidential election,
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  Speaker 2: because I think the socialists are going to make a
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  Speaker 2: real play for the Democratic Party primary. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: who that person is going to be. It could be AOC,
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  Speaker 2: could be somebody else. It could be a Bernie Sanders
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  Speaker 2: AOC ticket or something like that, because Bernie's too old
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  Speaker 2: to be on the top of it. But I I
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  Speaker 2: think we're going to see another chance for the Democratic
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  Speaker 2: Socialists to have a presidential candidate at top of that ticket.
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  Speaker 2: Are there something we're going to see it really soon?
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  Speaker 1: Are there some deep pockets that would put some ads
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  Speaker 1: for your website on? Say, oh, I don't know the
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  Speaker 1: Times Square Electric billboard.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're working on it. We're working on it, and
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  Speaker 2: that would be awesome if we could pull that off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would, Yeah, it would. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: make sure we talked about that site because we haven't
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  Speaker 1: in a while, and it's a very First of all,
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  Speaker 1: it's a very well done site. It's a great site
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  Speaker 1: for parents to cruise around with their kids and start
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  Speaker 1: introducing them to the fundamental basic concepts of socialism and
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  Speaker 1: why it is so bad for our country.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you very much. Yeah, we put a lot
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  Speaker 2: of work on it. There's hundreds of articles on there.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them are more news oriented, stuff, but a
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  Speaker 2: lot of it is the articles about the basics of
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  Speaker 2: what socialism is, why it doesn't work. We don't use
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  Speaker 2: any straw mans. We use the arguments that real socialists
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  Speaker 2: make themselves, and we interact with those. Some of the
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  Speaker 2: articles are short, some are very long, And like I said,
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  Speaker 2: we've got a whole bunch of videos on YouTube as well,
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  Speaker 2: stopping socials and TV where we deal with all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of different things, topical news of the day type stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but also again like the evergreen basics of combating against socialism.
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  Speaker 2: Now more than ever, this is a huge, huge problem.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of Americans sought on the right
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  Speaker 2: that it was kind of dying out after the last
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  Speaker 2: round of AOC nonsense you know, several years ago, and
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  Speaker 2: the Green New Deal got rejected in all of that.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think that's going to be the case.
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  Speaker 2: As we're seeing in New York City and elsewhere, Minneapolis
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  Speaker 2: and other places. This is a huge, huge problem moving forward,
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  Speaker 2: and it's only going to get worse as the AI
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  Speaker 2: revolution starts to take more and more jobs. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be a huge issue as well.
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  Speaker 1: What is the best thing that's going to come out
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  Speaker 1: of or has come out of the One Big Beautiful Bill.
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  Speaker 2: I think the easiest one that you could look to
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  Speaker 2: is the border security funding a massive amount of money
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  Speaker 2: for border security, more ice agents, I mean, more border
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  Speaker 2: walls and things like that. I mean, I never thought
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  Speaker 2: that that was going to happen in my lifetime. To
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  Speaker 2: be totally on you, I just did not think it
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  Speaker 2: was ever going to happen. So I think that's that's
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  Speaker 2: probably one of the biggest things. Economically, The biggest victory
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  Speaker 2: was extending the tax cuts. That was so absolutely vital.
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  Speaker 2: I think they made a mistake actually putting that in
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  Speaker 2: the Big Beautiful Bill. I think that just should have
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  Speaker 2: been a standalone thing on its own. But that was
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  Speaker 2: if we hadn't If the tax cuts from twenty seventeen
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  Speaker 2: were not extended, the personal tax cuts, they were set
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  Speaker 2: to expire at the end of this year, if they
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  Speaker 2: were not extended in this bill, the economy would have
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  Speaker 2: for sure crashed. There's just no question about it. The
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  Speaker 2: economy would have crashed, everyone's taxes would have gone up.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been catastrophic. So that was absolutely necessary.
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  Speaker 2: So to me, those are the two big victories, the
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  Speaker 2: border security and making sure that the tax cuts were extended.
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  Speaker 1: Is the border such an issue at this point even
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  Speaker 1: with Democrats except for the extreme loonies. Even with Democrats, though,
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  Speaker 1: that issue pulls real strongly that we've got to control
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  Speaker 1: our border. Do you think that is sufficient enough to
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  Speaker 1: keep it that way, keep it secured, even if Democrats
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  Speaker 1: were to control Congress in the White House.
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  Speaker 2: No, Okay, no, I don't think so. And the reason
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  Speaker 2: why is because a lot of the problems that we
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  Speaker 2: had on the border were not just that there was
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of good security there at times in
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  Speaker 2: certain places. It was that the policies surrounding it with
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  Speaker 2: giving people, allowing people to claim asylum and say that
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  Speaker 2: they're being persecuted when obviously a lot of them were
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  Speaker 2: not really being persecuted, and then that being used as
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  Speaker 2: a way to just let people into the country, millions
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  Speaker 2: of people, even if they were caught, even if they
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  Speaker 2: went to the border, and they were so under a
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  Speaker 2: democratic president that that law is still an option for them.
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  Speaker 2: They can still interpret the law that way. The Trump
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  Speaker 2: administration is not, but the next president could, and in
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  Speaker 2: those cases they literally will just let people in. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter what the border security is you just walk
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  Speaker 2: up to the border and you say, I claim asylum
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  Speaker 2: and then they let you in. So it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: that's a huge, huge part of the problem, and some
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  Speaker 2: of that is, you know, hopefully going to be fixed.
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  Speaker 2: But really I think that there are ways around all
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  Speaker 2: of these things, and Congress did not rune ironclad protections.
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  Speaker 2: We still need an immigration reform bill in Congress. We
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  Speaker 2: really haven't gotten that.
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  Speaker 1: What's the worst that's come out of the first seven
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  Speaker 1: months of the Trump administration?
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  Speaker 2: What is the worst? Okay, well, I think there's a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things. I think long term, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: give you kind of an off the wall answer in
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  Speaker 2: a second. My short answer is spending in government debt
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  Speaker 2: and all of that. That is a crisis that has
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  Speaker 2: not even there's not even an attempt to try to
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  Speaker 2: solve it. And I'm not surprised because the Trump administration
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  Speaker 2: did not try to solve it the first time around.
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  Speaker 2: Either they're not going to do it now. We need
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  Speaker 2: entitlement reforms in order to fix that problem, and Congress
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  Speaker 2: doesn't want to do that both sides, and so we
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  Speaker 2: are going to continue going down this road where our
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  Speaker 2: economy is going to becoming more and more dependent on debt.
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  Speaker 2: The affects the interest rates, It affects every in the
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  Speaker 2: interest rates, effect the housing market, it affects everything. And
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  Speaker 2: so this is a huge crisis level problem for US,
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  Speaker 2: and there is no effort in Washington to fix it.
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  Speaker 2: So that's my short answer.
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  Speaker 1: Justin Haskins gave us a brilliant tease for this final segment.
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  Speaker 1: He said, I've got an idea that is out there
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit. And when I asked him in
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  Speaker 1: the break, I also want to talk about the one
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  Speaker 1: thing that people are not discussing that's not on their
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  Speaker 1: radar that should be he said, it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: So justin go, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There was a law that was passed very recently led
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump with a big supporter of it. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of Republicans in Congress were advocates for it called the
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  Speaker 2: Genius Act, and the Genius Act one of the main
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  Speaker 2: things that it was doing was trying to regulate something
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  Speaker 2: called stable coins, put a government stamp of approval stable coins,
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  Speaker 2: increase regulations on stable coins. Stable Coins are a kind
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  Speaker 2: of cryptocurrency, so like bitcoin and stuff like that, except
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  Speaker 2: their value is tied. It's pegged to something stable, so
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  Speaker 2: in this case the dollar. So the way it works
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  Speaker 2: is essentially a cryptocurrency that is equal to always a dollar.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a way to use to have a digital
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  Speaker 2: dollar without actually having the government create a digital dollar. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the legislation that they put into place, the reason Republicans
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  Speaker 2: like it is because there's a lot of advantages to
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  Speaker 2: having a digital currency, but they don't want the government
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  Speaker 2: in charge of it or the set in charge of
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  Speaker 2: it for a lot of reasons that we can all
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  Speaker 2: imagine as conservatives. We it's way too much power in
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  Speaker 2: their hands. The problem is the people who are behind,
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  Speaker 2: not all of them, but many of the people behind
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  Speaker 2: the biggest stable coin companies out there right now, there's
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  Speaker 2: already hundreds of billions of dollars worth of stable coins
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  Speaker 2: out there. Are the great Reset people, They're the Davos people.
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  Speaker 2: It's Blackrock and companies like that that are the big
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  Speaker 2: owners of these things. And these are the people who
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  Speaker 2: were just trying to silence conservatives, destroy the fossil fuel industry,
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  Speaker 2: force esg down everyone's throats, and now they are the
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  Speaker 2: key people behind what is essentially a government approved quasi
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  Speaker 2: digital dollar that can be tracked and traced and controlled.
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  Speaker 2: They can tell you what you can spend it on
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  Speaker 2: and what you can't spend it on. And as institutions
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  Speaker 2: adopt this more and more and more, which is far
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  Speaker 2: more likely now that the government has put its stamp
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  Speaker 2: of approval on it and said we're going to regulate
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  Speaker 2: it and make sure that it's safe. This is going
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  Speaker 2: to become, in my opinion, a massive, massive, massive problem
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  Speaker 2: because this is there's going to be widespread adoption of
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  Speaker 2: this all throughout the banking industry. It's already starting. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to speed up over the next several years. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be common for people to use digital dollars
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  Speaker 2: through these stable coins, and without any privacy protections or
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  Speaker 2: liberty protections. They didn't put any of that in the bill.
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  Speaker 2: They just passed it and gave all this power to
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  Speaker 2: the black Rocks of the world without protecting individuals. And
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  Speaker 2: there was no reason to do that. They could have
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  Speaker 2: easily put those protections in the bill. So for me
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  Speaker 2: down the road, say five years into the future, I
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  Speaker 2: think this could be like a crisis level problem. If
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  Speaker 2: we have a Democrat in the White House that wants
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  Speaker 2: to work in a public private partnership with the black
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  Speaker 2: rocks of the world, just like they did with ESG
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  Speaker 2: to control what you can buy and what you can sell,
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  Speaker 2: and who the good guys and bad guys are and
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  Speaker 2: all of that stuff, just like they were doing with
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  Speaker 2: social credit scores before.
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  Speaker 1: Who's fighting it in the House and Senate? Anybody?
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  Speaker 2: Some people who fought against it. Josh Holly in the Senate,
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  Speaker 2: for example, is one of those people. But for the
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  Speaker 2: most part, Republicans were in favor of it, and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the Democrats were in favor of it too.
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  Speaker 1: How much have you written about it?
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  Speaker 2: I've written a decent amount. I actually published some articles
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  Speaker 2: and some big publications and things like that. But for
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  Speaker 2: the most part, the establishment I did Glenbeck Show and
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  Speaker 2: some of some bigger shows talking about that as well.
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  Speaker 2: But the reality is the Republicans and Donald Trump were
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  Speaker 2: openly in favor of it. I mean, they were advocating
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  Speaker 2: for it, and because of that, there was just no
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  Speaker 2: way that it was going to die. It's just there
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  Speaker 2: was way too much support behind it from the very beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Is anyone starting to see the potential problems now that
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  Speaker 1: it's out there and maybe rethinking or is that just
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  Speaker 1: not there yet.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean there were, like I said, Josh Hall
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  Speaker 2: and people like that are atting some of the same
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  Speaker 2: concerns that I had, But for the most part, no,
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  Speaker 2: And it's because it seems like a free market solution
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  Speaker 2: to a problem, you know, And that's that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of benefits to having a digital dollar.
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  Speaker 2: You can do you basically transmit it around the world
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  Speaker 2: twenty four to seven for almost nothing, So there's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's a much better system than a banking system we
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  Speaker 2: have now where it takes days to move money in
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  Speaker 2: some cases. So there are real advantages to it, but
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  Speaker 2: there are also huge problems, and those problems are just
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  Speaker 2: being ignored. And I think while you have Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: in the White House, there really aren't any threats. But
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  Speaker 2: that's not what I'm worried about. I'm worried about the
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  Speaker 2: next president or the president after that. I'm worried about
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  Speaker 2: the next you know, Joe Biden type of president, or
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  Speaker 2: Barack Obama. And I think they're setting the stage for
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  Speaker 2: a catastrophe down the road because they didn't put personal
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  Speaker 2: liberty protections in that legislation, and there was no reason
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  Speaker 2: why they couldn't have done it, so very very frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: Justin, hang on for a second. I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to you real quick as we wrap up here. But
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  Speaker 1: thanks for the time this morning. Of course, Justin Haskins
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  Speaker 1: with me. I'm gonna visit with him in a second
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  Speaker 1: here off air, just us talking, you know us, guy's talking.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the news coming up. We've got the big
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: stories in the press box. Howard Eisman joins us with
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  Speaker 1: some money talk. More to come on The Morning Show
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  Speaker 1: with Preston Scott