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#176 – Did Ferris Bueller's Day Off age well? (w/ Bree Davies) · Did That Age Well?

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  Nobody can, yeah. No one could Hello everyone,
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  And without further ado, my guest today, my new friend.
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  You know her from City cast Denver.
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  You know her as the most popular kid in school in Denver.
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  It's pre Davies. Hi, Molly.
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  Thanks for having me. Thank you.
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  So much for being here. That ad read was stellar, by the
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  way. Wow, thank you so much.
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  You were just like. Off the cuff.
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  It was great. Look, it's very, it's very
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  recent experience, you know, thinking of how, how I felt just
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  yesterday. When you were moving.
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  When I was moving, it's kind of a core memory at this time.
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  I love it. Well now I know who to go to.
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  That was just a great ad read. Oh my gosh.
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  Well, I'm so glad. I really, I really genuinely
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  hope that you do. And next time, if you have to
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  move, which I hope that you don't.
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  Well, I like to have something in my I don't, but I'd like to
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  have that in my back pocket when someone says, Hey, I need to
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  know, you know what I mean? I'm the I know a guy person.
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  I so I love to have a guy. Person to be is the I know a guy
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  person and kind of exactly why you should be doing what you do
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  professionally. I know.
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  Too many. I know too many people.
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  And too many people. There are so many, and you know
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  of them. I do.
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  I know them all. Yeah.
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  So. So what have you been up to?
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  What's going on with City Cast? What's going on with you?
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  Well, I just got back from a trip to Paris in Copenhagen,
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  which was incredible. Thank you.
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  It was, yes. I don't know, lifetime
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  achievement. I've never traveled that.
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  Far. Oh my God, that's so exciting.
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  Yeah, So my husband Greg and I and our son went on a little
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  trip. I met my husband out there
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  because he was on tour already. He's a musician.
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  And we stayed with my cousins Patrick and Macarena in
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  Copenhagen too. And it was just a really lovely
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  experience. So I just, I'd like just got
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  back. So I'm actually just getting
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  back into work. And so folks have been listening
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  to City Cast number. I have not disappeared.
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  I'm still here and you will hear me soon enough.
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  But yeah, just, you know, getting back into the group.
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  Yeah, totally. So I can't wait for the rumors
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  and conspiracy theories to say about where you've been.
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  They're like, did they kill Bree?
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  They. Killed Bree, but you're not
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  going to hear about it because they can't talk about her on
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  City Cast here. She just, I don't know where she
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  went. No, they're very nice.
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  We have a very generous vacation policy and so we all get to take
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  trips during the year and it's that's great.
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  It's one of the lovely parts about working there.
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  That is so cool and you have great Co workers who, yeah, you
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  know, do stuff. We're all, yeah, we're all kind
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  of utility players in this really sense.
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  So we can all host, which is nice.
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  That is great. But that is the main thing I do
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  there so totally. Yeah, well, Congrats and welcome
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  back. Thank you.
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  Did it. Do you feel like it gave you a
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  little travel bug? Like oh, now I want to be a a
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  lady who travels. A little bit, yeah.
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  Because I have to be honest with you, I'm not super travel
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  oriented, but my husband is because he's a touring musician
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  and this is what he's done his whole life.
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  And he, he's the one that really was like, hey, I'm already going
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  to be out there, right? So that's like a plane ticket
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  taken care of, of course. So why not you and Montgomery
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  come out? And and then the cool part was
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  it was like a short trip flight wise, and it wasn't too
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  expensive from Paris to Copenhagen.
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  And we had a free place to stay with my cousins and it was
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  phenomenal. So God, yeah.
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  So I think we'll be doing more traveling for sure.
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  I think you will too. And I, I, I love.
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  I didn't realize that your cousins lived there.
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  I thought you were all meeting up there.
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  No, my cousins are, I do my, my cousin Patrick and his wife
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  Macarena are both engineers and they met in engineering school
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  in Copenhagen. He's from Grand Junction, she's
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  from Leon, Spain. And they came back to the States
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  for a while and she got a really great job offer and they were
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  like, we're having a kid. It's a really cool place to
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  raise kids. So, you know, all the the
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  different, it's a very different, it's a very different
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  culture in Copenhagen than America, obviously.
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  But I was like, you know, you guys are raising your kid in a
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  culture that's neither of yours and how do you feel about that?
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  And they were both like, it's kind of awesome.
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  They were like it. Rocks, like you literally
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  walked. No, truly.
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  Like we walked to a park and their son Edward's like 15
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  months old. And so he was just in a stroller
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  and he was asleep. And Makarina just put him under
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  a tree and, and walked over to the playground.
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  And I was like, you're going to leave?
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  You can just leave him under. The baby, she goes, yeah, I
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  mean, that's it's OK here. And so it was a really cool
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  experience. That is so cool.
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  Highly recommend. Different seeing somewhere
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  outside of what you know, will make you think differently
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  about. I mean, I think about this city
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  that I live in every day. And so it was cool to see other
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  cities and how the cultures function within those cities.
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  You know that. Is so beautiful.
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  Yeah, it was cool. I love that.
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  So you could say you kind of had your own little Ferris Bueller's
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  Day Off. Oh my God.
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  Your own little vacay. I watched OK, I will get into
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  this, but I did watch it on the plane and but I yes, but saying
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  as I'm saying that as I've watched it hundreds of times, of
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  course so but I was like, I'll just watch it on the plane and
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  then I watched it when I got home and then.
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  So fun. I could watch this movie.
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  Every day I could too. Honestly, it's so easy.
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  To watch yeah, yeah, I'm a John Hughes fan and I love I grew up
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  on his movies and the feelings of his movies are just very
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  comforting and and I mean, my favorite movie of his is 16
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  candles, but like, it's highly. Problematic.
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  Your favorite is 16 candles. I just love the characters.
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  I know, I know, it's terrible and I but it's but this is the
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  first John Hughes movie I ever saw.
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  Oh, really? So.
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  Oh, cool. Yeah.
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  OK. So you have like a, a very close
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  relationship to John Hughes then?
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  I do. And I didn't realize that until
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  I realized the movies that he had, yeah, were in like, my
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  favorite Christmas. I'm a Christmas person.
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  Oh yeah. And my favorite Christmas movie
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  of all time is National Lampoons Christmas Vacation, which is a
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  John Hughes movie. And if you watch that and you
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  watch Ferris Bueller, there's a lot.
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  Even Home Alone, you see the things that he does in every
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  movie. He's very good with a sound
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  design. And there's some of my favorite,
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  like trope character tropes in all his movies, like Clueless
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  Dad. I love a Clueless.
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  Dad. Oh my gosh, I love a dad.
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  That's just an oaf. He's a dumb Ferris's.
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  Dad is like the most clueless dad and he's got.
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  It's just he plays it so well. He does just coasting through
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  life, being an ad exec or whatever, just.
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  You got to increase your ad budget and like.
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  This guy I and then he closes the door and then he but he has
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  these like really low key amazing lines like the very end.
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  Dad and mom meet at the front door, Jeannie's inside and mom's
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  like, Oh my God, I had to pick her up at the at the police
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  station da da, da, da, da. And the dad just goes, I think
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  we should shoot her. And I was like, I so much of who
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  I outwardly AM came from these characters in the in this in
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  John Hughes movies. Totally, totally.
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  And I think especially when I think about movies like Home
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  Alone and National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, the high
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  jinks, high jinks, the goofs, the gags.
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  The gags, the like the the devices that he uses, like he
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  uses so many pieces of older technology to do these
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  incredible things. In Ferris Bueller, it's the
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  phone, of course, the phone is everything.
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  Yep. And the intercom, the inner, the
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  intercom, which again is like home alone.
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  You see similar things like it's just, I don't know, it's, it's a
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  throwback, but it feels timeless in a really interesting way.
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  Yeah, there's so much, like, so much young ingenuity.
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  There's so much like, how do I take all of these, you know, at
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  the time, modern tools and use them to be an absolute shithead?
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  Ferris Bueller's keyboard. Yes, that makes all the coughing
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  noises, the tape he has playing of the snoring like the.
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  Tape at the doorbell. Oh my God, yeah.
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  Oh, it's so good. Oh, it's, I could like recite
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  that whole thing. It's so good.
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  It's so good. Yeah, I think that for me, one
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  thing I love about John Hughes is really kind of these like
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  more of the family fun style movies.
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  I'm less of a fan of the really the ones that like really lean
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  into the teen angst, like 16 Candles, Breakfast Club, Eat
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  Breakfast Club. I'm kind of just like, OK, yeah.
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  Like it's hard being a Gen. X teen.
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  We got it, OK, blah, blah, blah, but but this one, I really, I
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  feel like it hits that sweet spot of like a great point being
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  being very like sympathetic to the teen struggle and this idea
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  of being young and adults are just kind of like out to ruin a
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  good time. Yeah, or your big sister is out
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  to ruin your good time. Or your big sister is like the
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  way that she the whole time you're like she's a narc, she's
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  a narc, she's a narc and then. She saves him.
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  She. Saves.
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  Him and I identify with her so much 'cause I am the older
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  sister that. Was a narc.
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  And my brother is the like rambunctious, always getting in
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  trouble. He, my brother never ratted on
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  me one time, never one time. And I probably ratted on him a
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  million times and he's like a solid like, and I was like, man,
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  I really, I really was Jeannie Bueller.
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  Wow. And just like tough her like
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  she's just a bitch. She's just a bitch.
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  She's a bitch to everyone. She's a bitch to her parents.
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  She's a bitch to her brother. She's a bitch to to Grace, to to
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  Principal Rooney's secretary. Yeah, like, and then you only
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  see her soften a little bit when she falls in love with Charlie
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  Sheen for five. Minutes at the police station
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  because he said says you do your eye makeup wrong or whatever
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  she. Goes, He goes, I love, I just
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  love this scene. This vignette is so you don't
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  have to see the movie to enjoy this moment.
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  Yeah. He says, oh, my God.
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  He says, you know, you wear too much eye makeup.
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  And she just gives him this, like, what the fuck look?
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  And he goes, My sister wears too much makeup and people think
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  she's a whore. He's like, so straightforward
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  about it, but he's also the only truth teller to her in the whole
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  movie. That is true.
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  I don't like that they established his wisdom and his
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  ability to give sage advice by being like, look, he clocked
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  hurt, you know that mug? He said, Girl, that's not it.
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  I don't love that. But I do love that she did fall
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  in love with the only person who would tell her the truth.
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  Yeah. That would just be real to her
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  face and be like maybe you need to get over it and leave your
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  brother alone. Mind your own.
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  Business, yeah, and maybe it's not actually a personal affront
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  to you that he's more fun, but. He's just coasting through life.
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  Yeah, when he's like, you could do that too.
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  Like you could skip he. Would support.
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  Her like he would be like, yeah, let's all hang out.
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  You know what I mean? That that scene you you
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  mentioned at the end where he's, he's like facing off with Rooney
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  at his back door. His parents are about to come
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  and she opens the door and saves him.
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  It's such a sweet moment that you see a sibling relationship.
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  It's a really cool example of a how a sibling relationship can
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  really work sometimes, even though weirdly they got together
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  in that movie. I know that is, that is.
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  You know what I mean behind the scenes, and that is a.
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  Weird thing for people who place those siblings in in movies then
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  end up dating. But I mean, other than that,
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  they they just played those characters.
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  So. Yeah.
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  So well, yeah. And they thought they didn't
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  really look that much like each other.
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  No. So, you know, at least that
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  part, it's like, OK, we knew that they were siblings because
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  they told us that, not because we were like, oh, they look the
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  same. And then they ended up dating.
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  That would have been a bummer. And the parents, The parents on
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  that movie. That is crazy.
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  And got married and had kids, isn't that?
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  I don't know. I love this race, truly.
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  I guess on Ferris Wheeler's day. I guess it is.
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  How could it not be though? It's so romantic to play hooky,
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  You know, it is so romantic to just like, have some silly high
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  jinks and say, what are we going to do today?
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  And does he not seem like the it's like the most thought out
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  planned day, but it's played as like everything's on a whim,
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  which kind of also makes me nostalgic for a time when you
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  couldn't like just like have to get in line on, you know, like
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  on a queue on an app to get something done to go do the
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  ticketing. Da, da, da, da.
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  Like he walked up to the box office and got tickets at
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  Wrigley Field. And like, you know, like it was,
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  it was a little bit of a, oh, that was a better time, even
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  though none of it's probably realistic.
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  He wasn't. He wasn't making a reservation
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  or a fake name on OpenTable or whatever.
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  You know what I mean? Abe Froman Sausage, King of
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  Chicago would not play that well on and through.
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  And nothing is worse than watching a character in a movie
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  or on TV do something on the Internet.
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  Like, Can you imagine how terrible my.
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  God, that would be, he'd be like the entire movie would just be
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  people, like on their phones being like, Oh no, like Rezi's
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  telling me I can't do that because I have to create a new
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  login. You know what I mean?
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  Like that? Where I just logged into my
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  school portal and just counted myself absent.
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  Like end of the movie. End of his movie.
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  But you know what I did Love Actually in this movie, and I
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  think that it's probably because of the weird nostalgia element
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  when he was on his computer and he was and he was fixing the
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  number of. Absent nine 9 * 9 times I don't
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  remember him being absent 9 times.
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  I I love that scene. The computer scenes are funny
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  because I wonder if younger folks have any frame of
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  reference for what they're even looking at.
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  Like, probably not. I learned how to type on a brown
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  computer. I mean, I was there.
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  But like, it looks so crazy archaic.
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  There's like that scene, and then there's the scene where
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  Ferris is like, there's like a naked woman on his computer when
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  he's like talking to Cameron. And that, I would say, is the
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  only time this was. There's a lot of rarities in
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  this movie as an 80s movie, and one of them is it doesn't have
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  boobs for no reason in it. A lot of 80s movies are just
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  boobs for no reason. Yeah, absolutely.
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  And this one. The only time you have boobs for
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  no reason is the. Computer, the computer.
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  And it's sort of like, well, yeah, I mean that that probably
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  would be what would be. Something a teenage boy would be
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  doing. And it's it's not as like, yeah,
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  it's not as distracting as you find and like Revenge of the
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  Nerds or, you know, or even in 16 Candles, there's like, right,
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  this crazy boob scene for no reason.
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  It totally. And it's, and it's like, it's
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  just there. It's not like he's like.
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  Oh, God, You know, he's just like talking on the phone, like
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  it's so good. It's so good.
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  Oh. So funny, you know.
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  Okay, have you seen the movie The Mountain head?
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  No, okay, it just recently it got nominated for an Emmy.
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  It was it was a straight to streaming movie on HBO and it
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  was like a compelling concept. But the entire time it's just
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  like people looking at their phones being like, Oh my God,
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  did you see this? And it was just like, OK, I'm
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  tired of people standing around and being like, did you see
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  this? It's the worst part of real life
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  interaction. I don't want to see it.
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  I don't need to see. It in a movie like it doesn't
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  work as a device the way old school landline yes telephone
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  does. The way that that Cameron was
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  able to just use his goofy. Voice Oh I love.
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  It to disguise it like that could they're prank.
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  Call. I mean, they're prank calling
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  the. Principal time you could prank
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  call a. Principal I don't know, but I
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  loved I we did like slumber party prank calls.
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  Oh, I. Loved that.
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  I I missed that. We used to go down to the
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  payphone like a couple blocks from my best friend's house and
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  at there was like a little little grocery store.
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  This God, this was the 80s in Brighton, Co, which is tiny.
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  There was a little market Schwartz's and we would go to
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  that pay phone and prank call the babysitter that was watching
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  us. No, I think as an older, like,
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  you know, I became a babysitter. Obviously I was like, God, we're
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  a bunch of little Dicks. Totally just.
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  Torturing a person that's in charge of babysitting.
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  Us, yeah, 'cause they were the ones who were there to ruin the
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  fun. Unfortunately true.
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  Unfortunately, we all become. I know.
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  Grown-ups who ruined. This poor 15 year old girl that
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  was probably babysitting us. Ohh God bless her, I know
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  wherever she is. Wherever she is, thank you for
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  your service. A woman who's probably only five
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  years. Old.
• 18:57
  I know, I know. That's what I'm thinking about
• 18:59
  right now. I'm like, Oh my God.
• 19:01
  You're like we are peers now. Truly, I'm like kids I used to
• 19:03
  babysitter, like married and divorced now you know what I
• 19:06
  mean? They have they have kids who
• 19:08
  have kids. Yeah.
• 19:09
  Yeah, totally. It's not so funny.
• 19:12
  Were you like a A school skipper?
• 19:13
  We know you were a prank caller, but were you a school skipper?
• 19:16
  Not really. I was kind of a goody goody in
• 19:18
  terms of just like I didn't like getting in trouble.
• 19:21
  And that's where like truly my brother is like the, I could
• 19:24
  care less. He went to like 10 different
• 19:26
  schools, like school is whatever.
• 19:30
  And I was always like by the book very much.
• 19:32
  I remember when I played hooky a couple of times, I was
• 19:35
  terrified. And our, you know, I went to
• 19:41
  George Washington High School and we wouldn't really go very
• 19:44
  far. So we'd like go to the Denny's.
• 19:46
  And if you went to the Denny's, it was like surefire, you're
• 19:48
  going to get caught because they would just.
• 19:49
  Call the school. Yeah, they're like you are
• 19:52
  obviously as a teen, you obviously go to school down the
• 19:56
  street. Wednesday, yeah, 1:00 and you're
• 20:00
  here smoking a cigarette because it was 1996, of course and and
• 20:04
  you're drinking a coffee because that's what you could afford.
• 20:06
  I'm I'm calling the school. This is.
• 20:09
  Yeah, you're definitely a student.
• 20:11
  Were you a? Were you a ditcher?
• 20:13
  Not in high school, but I was in college.
• 20:15
  Oh, college. Yeah.
• 20:16
  College, Oh my God, I love to skip school.
• 20:20
  I love anytime that anyone was like, I kind of wanna skip
• 20:23
  class, they would call me and be like, hey, do you wanna skip
• 20:26
  class? I'd be like of course.
• 20:28
  Hey, I know we're paying for school now, yeah, but.
• 20:31
  Yeah, yeah, very cool. It's very, it's definitely
• 20:34
  giving Like I went to private liberal arts school because I'm
• 20:37
  like, what is what is money and time?
• 20:40
  I mean, I went to the what was then like the low cost City
• 20:43
  College, which is metro at the time, and now it's Metropolitan
• 20:47
  State University or whatever, but it was literally downtown.
• 20:50
  Yeah, you might as well. Just there was a bar on campus,
• 20:53
  right? Like it's like you expect us to
• 20:56
  go to class. Truly, I need to go smoke.
• 20:58
  Cigarettes. Yes, Somewhere, somewhere,
• 21:00
  anywhere, anywhere but right here in this class.
• 21:04
  But, but I do think that I probably would have been better
• 21:08
  off if I had gone to class more. Let's say that like I still did
• 21:11
  fine, Like I, I did fine. I graduated on time, whatever.
• 21:14
  But I it took me 8 years to get a bachelor's degree in
• 21:21
  journalism, which you know what? You don't even need a degree to
• 21:24
  be doing what I'm doing. But I'm just going to say it
• 21:28
  kind of it worked out for you. Look, you majored in journalism.
• 21:32
  I work in media. So look are.
• 21:35
  You look at you. Now like all the haters look up
• 21:40
  to 8 years baby. Yeah.
• 21:42
  Hey, you know what? It's not a race.
• 21:44
  I know it's truly I had to be an alcoholic in the middle of that
• 21:48
  and get sober to get out of. School, yeah.
• 21:50
  So definitely, you know, so you know what, here we we made it.
• 21:56
  Like I always say, everybody's path is different.
• 21:58
  You don't know what it's going to look like.
• 21:59
  There's no straight line. Just do your do what you can do.
• 22:03
  We do what we can. You know, I remember when I was
• 22:05
  a sophomore in college, my first semester of sophomore year when
• 22:09
  I was just drinking like a fish and I was taking the minimum
• 22:13
  number of credits to a full time student.
• 22:15
  And every day I'd be like, I can't go to class.
• 22:18
  It's too much. It's just too much.
• 22:22
  But then the times when I like got it together and I was taking
• 22:25
  like I was taking like more than 18 credits and I was like, OK, I
• 22:29
  just got to like. Just hammer it.
• 22:30
  Out. Just hammer it out.
• 22:31
  I almost feel as though like when I had more flexibility, I
• 22:36
  had I had less motivation to go to class.
• 22:39
  Yeah, you know what I mean? Oh.
• 22:40
  Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
• 22:41
  And I, I think about it now as like a, an adult adult.
• 22:44
  I mean like, man, I would be, I would be pissed at 18 year old
• 22:49
  me. Like what are you doing, man?
• 22:51
  Like, just shit's not that. Hard.
• 22:53
  It's just not that. Hard.
• 22:54
  You're taking math for liberal arts majors or whatever.
• 22:58
  Like you're literally you're. Doing high school level algebra,
• 23:01
  True college. At that maybe like and you're
• 23:05
  getting again, you're getting a degree in journalism.
• 23:07
  Not to diss all of my friends with journalism degrees, but
• 23:09
  like. But you know, not the.
• 23:11
  Hardest degree? Famously not the hardest shout
• 23:16
  out to my friends with like hospitality management degrees,
• 23:19
  but which again, love love you all that have the love they're.
• 23:23
  Like, hope you're making, you're probably making a lot of money,
• 23:26
  probably making a lot more money than we are.
• 23:30
  I remember that I wanted to go to hair school, like right out
• 23:32
  of high school. And my parents were like, no,
• 23:34
  you have to go to real college, which is such a bullshit thing
• 23:38
  to say. Like, that's not a real career.
• 23:40
  And then I remember, like, talking to my girlfriends that
• 23:42
  were hairdressers and like, they were making way more money than
• 23:46
  I was. They were doing way harder
• 23:47
  physical work. I mean being a hairdresser is
• 23:50
  hard but like they were making way more money than I ever made
• 23:53
  in journalism. For sure, and I'm sure they
• 23:56
  still are. Oh, yeah, and also they were, I
• 23:59
  mean, no offense, but like they were getting paychecks after
• 24:02
  like, you know, a couple of years.
• 24:04
  Yeah. And.
• 24:07
  I was, I mean, I was up until this current job I have with
• 24:12
  City Cast, I was never a salaried employee with like
• 24:16
  benefits or anything in any journalism job ever.
• 24:20
  It's actually why I left journalism for four years,
• 24:22
  because I was like, I can't live like this.
• 24:24
  Anymore I'm like I'm, I'm grown. I I had health.
• 24:28
  Insurance $12,000 a year. Like what dude?
• 24:31
  But you get free concert tickets like, well, OK, it's cool.
• 24:36
  It seems really cool for a little bit.
• 24:37
  It does until you want to like, make moves in your life and
• 24:40
  you're like, OK, I want to like buy a house and stuff.
• 24:43
  And it's not going to happen when I'm making like $50 a story
• 24:46
  or whatever. Yeah, so.
• 24:48
  And kids and. Yeah, totally.
• 24:50
  I mean, that didn't happen for me till I had a full time like
• 24:54
  real journalism job and that didn't happen till I was 40.
• 24:57
  Yeah. So not to say it's not out there
• 25:00
  of. Course, again, everybody's if
• 25:02
  you're, if you're a young aspiring journalist, just do it.
• 25:06
  Please do it. I have so much respect and love
• 25:08
  for the profession. But of course, but I I also like
• 25:11
  worked retail through all most of that as well.
• 25:15
  So I was always working retail and doing freelance work at the
• 25:18
  same time. So I'm like a 17 year veteran of
• 25:21
  retail and I have such deep respect for, of course, folks
• 25:24
  that do that work. And those are some of my best,
• 25:27
  oldest friends in the world are the folks I met folding shirts
• 25:31
  and, you know, selling makeup and dealing with bananas people.
• 25:36
  And, you know, it's like a real training ground for life when
• 25:39
  you have to do those kinds of, no kidding, customer service
• 25:41
  jobs. But yeah, you know.
• 25:43
  Kidding. And look at you, one of God's
• 25:45
  strongest soldiers. Look at me now.
• 25:50
  I host a podcast. Look at that.
• 25:52
  It's great. Except for when you tell people
• 25:54
  outside of the podcast, we're like, what do you do?
• 25:57
  And I'm like, I have host a podcast.
• 26:00
  They're like for a job. They're like, that's a job.
• 26:03
  I get that. So much of them all, yeah, yeah,
• 26:06
  it's a job. I actually, that's what I asked
• 26:08
  them when they came to me and I was offered the job.
• 26:11
  I was like podcasting, like that's what I had a podcast out
• 26:15
  of an anarchist bookstore where we definitely didn't make any
• 26:18
  money, but we actually like have this is a company and they
• 26:23
  that's what they do for this whole thing is we're a network
• 26:25
  of podcasts, right? It's pretty incredible.
• 26:27
  It is. Pretty incredible the honestly
• 26:29
  that anyone makes money in podcasts I.
• 26:31
  Didn't know anybody did. Yeah, only like Amy Poehler
• 26:34
  makes money in podcasts. Right.
• 26:36
  I mean, we could get into the celebrity podcast world versus
• 26:39
  the everyone else, but that's a whole other.
• 26:41
  Show whole other show. I know someone right now who
• 26:45
  they don't listen to this podcast so it doesn't matter,
• 26:47
  but they are getting trying get into podcasting to make money
• 26:52
  and I'm like, let me know how it goes.
• 26:53
  Like, yeah, Nick is laughing off.
• 26:56
  I know. I'm like, oh.
• 26:59
  And these guys dude IDK they hustle so hard.
• 27:02
  They are like, Oh my God. Like it's yeah.
• 27:06
  It's not like, oh, I'm in it to make a bazillion dollars.
• 27:09
  I mean, we'd all love to. Wouldn't that be great?
• 27:11
  And we all deserve to. Yeah, but it's like any creative
• 27:14
  profession. It's not.
• 27:15
  Yeah, the the end product is consumed without thinking about
• 27:19
  so much work that goes into the creation of it, right, You know?
• 27:23
  Yeah, but that's the road we chose.
• 27:24
  And here we are, and here we are, and here we are.
• 27:28
  Back to the movie So. Let's go back to the movie.
• 27:30
  Okay, so this actually is, I think, a nice segue into what I
• 27:33
  think is one of my favorite things about Ferris Bueller's
• 27:37
  Day Off, which is kind of the nihilism of it all.
• 27:41
  It is so Gen. X in the way that it's like yeah
• 27:43
  so we gotta enjoy being young because after this I mean we're.
• 27:47
  Never going to see each other again.
• 27:49
  Yeah, the conversation that Sloane and Cameron are having
• 27:51
  where they're laughing about their little like, I guess I'll
• 27:54
  go to college, and then it's like, then do what?
• 27:56
  And it's like, I don't know. Yeah, probably.
• 27:58
  Be mean to kids, you know. I didn't think about that.
• 28:01
  So I, I'm like, I'm a Gen. X cusp person, right?
• 28:05
  I was born in 1980. And so I, I don't really
• 28:08
  identify with millennials, but I, I don't necessarily, I
• 28:13
  identify more with Gen. X, but it isn't until I start
• 28:16
  really the popular culture that I've consumed my whole life that
• 28:19
  I really see what you're saying. Because I, to me it's like,
• 28:24
  there it is cheerful nihilism, maybe a little bit.
• 28:27
  And but Ferris Bueller is like almost the opposite of that.
• 28:31
  And that he is going to do whatever he's going to do and
• 28:35
  he's going to have a really good time doing it.
• 28:37
  And Cameron, on the other hand, is like, this world sucks.
• 28:40
  And that is such a Gen. X attitude.
• 28:43
  Like, I mean, I could get into this.
• 28:46
  I talk about it all the time on the show, but my on my show.
• 28:48
  But my son, who's four years old, is obsessed with Nirvana.
• 28:52
  And I love Nirvana too. But hearing the lyrics again as
• 28:56
  an adult and thinking about him in a different way, I'm like,
• 28:58
  God, this is such a bummer, right?
• 29:00
  Like, everything sucks. Like never.
• 29:03
  Whatever, whatever, Never mind. Like no wonder he.
• 29:08
  I know, like, I mean truly, but also like what, what was there
• 29:14
  to look forward? I don't know.
• 29:15
  It's like every generation has this, you know, what do we have
• 29:17
  to look forward to? But I don't know.
• 29:20
  It's that's an interesting thing.
• 29:21
  I didn't think about the Gen. X miss of this movie.
• 29:24
  Right. There's this sort of this
• 29:26
  quality of that I think is so John Hughes, that it's like if
• 29:30
  you're a teen, you have to make the most of every moment because
• 29:34
  one day you're going to be an adult and that sucks.
• 29:39
  It does. So you just have to make the
• 29:42
  most of it while you can, I guess.
• 29:43
  OK, here's my question for you, Bree.
• 29:45
  Do you think that Ferris Bueller went on to be the same,
• 29:51
  carefree, do whatever he wants and chase his bliss kind of guy?
• 29:55
  Or do you think that adulthood, college, career, all of that
• 30:00
  made him into a disgruntled adult like everyone else?
• 30:05
  I mean, I think based on the like class indicators we get in
• 30:10
  John Hughes movies in general, but especially in this movie, I
• 30:14
  bet Ferris Bueller just fucking coasted.
• 30:16
  He's doing fine. He's an exec some.
• 30:18
  He was an exec somewhere. He's a Neppo baby.
• 30:21
  Yeah, he's working at his dad's an executive company.
• 30:24
  He's like, I'm a creative director, 'cause I like the
• 30:26
  vibe. Yes, he's a vibes guy and I bet
• 30:30
  he did great and I bet he just coasted on that and he married a
• 30:34
  hot woman and, you know, lives in upper middle class.
• 30:38
  He probably moved to LA or something, but I think he did.
• 30:42
  I think he did just fine. And you think he's happy and
• 30:46
  fulfilled? Yeah, yeah.
• 30:48
  OK. Because again, like I keep
• 30:51
  talking about my husband, but my husband is this like very just
• 30:54
  like naturally happy person, just like the outlook is always
• 30:58
  pretty good. He's always just having a good
• 31:00
  time. And he'll tell, He'll tell you.
• 31:02
  Like, it's not that easy. I have to really try.
• 31:04
  Some days are harder than others, but I always just try to
• 31:06
  look for the positive. And so I see a lot of that in
• 31:09
  the Ferris Bueller attitude is like, it is truly, it is.
• 31:13
  It is a choice attitude, but also I truly believe people are
• 31:16
  born with the kernel of who they really are.
• 31:20
  And I identify Cameron so much more and with Jeannie, with his
• 31:25
  sister. Like totally.
• 31:26
  I would love to be the Ferris Bueller.
• 31:28
  Yeah, wouldn't we? Or I'd.
• 31:29
  Love to be Sloane Peterson who's like, just effortlessly
• 31:33
  gorgeous. Just.
• 31:35
  So cool, so cool. But like, I am a Cameron genie.
• 31:39
  Nihilist, cynical, angry, of course, bratty person.
• 31:44
  Her brattiness, Jeannie's brattiness is like, it informed
• 31:47
  so much of who I was as a teenager, and I didn't realize
• 31:50
  until watching it again. And I was like, this is how I
• 31:52
  acted all the time. It's so funny too, 'cause she's
• 31:54
  still likable even though she's, oh, you love her, we love her.
• 31:58
  I love her, 'cause she's like rooting for her, you know, she's
• 32:01
  overacting like all the time. Like everything's super
• 32:04
  dramatic. The phone, the phone call to the
• 32:06
  police. I'm very cute.
• 32:09
  I am very alone and I'm very protective of my body.
• 32:13
  It's so like, I don't know, it's just she's, she's such a good
• 32:17
  visceral character. Yeah, but I mean, she and Ferris
• 32:20
  both kind of, I think they're both self-centered.
• 32:25
  Oh yeah, you know, but it most. Just as characters are,
• 32:27
  honestly. Of course you got to be.
• 32:29
  So I mean, if a, if a character is always thinking of other
• 32:33
  people, what are they? What's that character Boring?
• 32:36
  They're boring. If you're obsessed with everyone
• 32:39
  else, then you're just the Dean of students.
• 32:42
  You're which I also love that basically they show us that his
• 32:46
  job is so unimportant that he can leave the office and just
• 32:50
  and try and track. Down kind of Dick around all
• 32:53
  day. You know what, let's talk about
• 32:55
  him really quick because I think that's the where that did that
• 32:57
  age well question comes very prominently and I wanted to talk
• 33:00
  about this at the top. But so Jeffrey Jones that plays
• 33:05
  Ed Rooney, the principal unfortunately is a the sexual
• 33:10
  predator was caught with child sexual abuse materials
• 33:13
  soliciting a minor. So that part of this did not age
• 33:17
  well. When he's like sneaking into the
• 33:19
  house, when he's going in the dog, the door, when he's sort of
• 33:23
  like, you know, sneaking up on an underage girl.
• 33:27
  Yeah, it. Changes the child.
• 33:29
  That really kind of changes the context.
• 33:31
  But I will say, like, I know this separating art from the
• 33:35
  artist is like not a conversation I want to have
• 33:37
  right now. But he does play this character
• 33:40
  character so well that it is like becomes an archetype of a
• 33:45
  school principal, yes, like you see him in other principals
• 33:49
  later on. Yes.
• 33:50
  And I and I and his interplay with his secretary Grace is like
• 33:55
  incredible. Some of the best scenes in that
• 33:59
  movie. Absolutely, you know.
• 34:01
  Yes, I love it. I love that he is just.
• 34:04
  He's been so disempowered by children by.
• 34:10
  And by his secretary. And by his secretary, who is so
• 34:13
  county. I love her.
• 34:14
  She's he's. Like, I don't trust him any
• 34:16
  farther than I can throw him. And she goes, well, I wouldn't
• 34:18
  be throwing anybody with your bad back.
• 34:20
  Yet he makes you look like an ass is what he does it.
• 34:24
  And she does so good at cutting him down.
• 34:29
  And yeah, but his like, yeah, his drive to just find this kid
• 34:33
  that's ruining it's again, it's like all the miserable people
• 34:37
  let themselves be made miserable by this kid who's having a great
• 34:42
  time. That like, it's that idea that
• 34:45
  like someone else having fun is taking something away from you.
• 34:49
  Yes, this thing, it's the scarcity.
• 34:51
  Mindset of fun. Rooney and Rooney and Jeannie
• 34:55
  are on the same trajectory where they're like, I take it
• 34:58
  personally there he gets to do whatever he wants and it's like,
• 35:02
  well, maybe you could also do whatever you want.
• 35:04
  It's really. And that's where Charlie Sheen
• 35:06
  comes in and says. And says.
• 35:08
  Kind of a state of mind. Man, yeah, I'm afraid.
• 35:10
  Guy that's like so cracked out he looks.
• 35:13
  So busted. He really does.
• 35:15
  I think that Charlie Sheen just woke up and showed up as is.
• 35:18
  I know. You know what I mean.
• 35:19
  He didn't have to go in the makeup chair.
• 35:21
  They said they were part. That's just go ahead and lean
• 35:24
  into that. Yeah.
• 35:25
  Yeah, yeah, exactly. I found that this movie really
• 35:32
  was not so much about the stuff that happens, the plot, if you
• 35:38
  will, what a plot, stuff that happens, but if.
• 35:42
  But it really is more about this sort of like, yeah, I wouldn't
• 35:47
  call it a hero's journey because I don't think that Ferris really
• 35:50
  changes that much, but he changes other people around him.
• 35:54
  Yeah. And that, to me, is like such a
• 35:58
  cool part of Ferris Bueller's Day Off that Cameron learns how
• 36:02
  to stand up to his dad. Let his hair down a little.
• 36:05
  Bit I love their friendship. It is so.
• 36:08
  You can really see their friendship and that they've been
• 36:11
  friends for a long time, at least in the storyline.
• 36:13
  And. And he really understands the
• 36:16
  world that Cameron has to inhabit.
• 36:19
  You know, the his house is like a museum.
• 36:22
  Yeah, very cold. Totally.
• 36:24
  You can't touch anything. And like, his family's so messed
• 36:27
  up. You know, that's also a classic.
• 36:29
  Like John Hughes. It's like, they're like, my
• 36:32
  parents don't understand me. They're divorced.
• 36:34
  Yeah, which is again, I I listened to this podcast called
• 36:39
  Bands playing where she love bands playing.
• 36:42
  Yes, he saw like it's great. But she so she dissects bands
• 36:46
  and artists like from their beginning, like from the very
• 36:48
  beginning. And one of the things that she
• 36:50
  said, I think it was a quote that she actually got from Time
• 36:52
  magazine. But it was like, grunge is like
• 36:56
  the Gen. X is the sound of, you know,
• 36:59
  kids, kids coming out of divorce.
• 37:02
  Like, it was that first age group where parents were really
• 37:05
  like, I mean, the women had the opportunity, Yeah.
• 37:09
  For the first. Time to get divorced.
• 37:11
  Yeah. And so I think that's why it
• 37:13
  plays such a big, it's such a big part of plots in John Hughes
• 37:19
  movies sometimes or, or, but there's also the nuclear
• 37:21
  families always together and the parents love each other.
• 37:25
  And you know, like 16 Candles parents love each other.
• 37:27
  National Lampoon's parents love each other.
• 37:30
  Pretty Pink's a little different.
• 37:32
  And Breakfast Club is a little different because it's really
• 37:34
  about the teenagers. But it, I think Home Alone is
• 37:38
  the greatest example of when you're like, it's like the per I
• 37:43
  mean, these people, we don't even know what they do for a
• 37:46
  living, but they have an incredible home.
• 37:48
  Oh, yeah, everybody's happy. Like, I mean, the allegedly, I
• 37:52
  know it's true. We don't see the dark parts.
• 37:54
  But like, I mean, Ferris Bueller's parents, like, they're
• 37:57
  both clueless Ding dongs. Yeah.
• 38:00
  Although his mom's like the power broker, real estate agent.
• 38:03
  Totally. But like, yeah, they're, they
• 38:05
  have very little common sense and they're.
• 38:09
  They've really failed their ways, their way up, kind of.
• 38:12
  They're just like hot suburban Chicago people.
• 38:17
  Who are making great money, yeah, and.
• 38:20
  They have, they have two kids and a dog and they're just
• 38:24
  living life, loving life. Yeah, it's interesting the the
• 38:29
  this archetype of the family that John you sort of put into
• 38:33
  yeah play. But you're right that the people
• 38:35
  the troubled kids are usually like from divorce.
• 38:37
  Divorce. Or as Cameron says, it's like
• 38:40
  with the car. My dad loves the car and he
• 38:43
  hates his wife. He doesn't even drive it.
• 38:48
  He just rubs it with a diaper. And also that I feel I should
• 38:53
  know the architect of the house that is like Camerons.
• 38:57
  Bam. Oh yeah, I can't remember.
• 38:58
  Like a famous house. It's a famous house and that
• 39:01
  just that showroom that his dad has, you can just feel.
• 39:06
  You can palpably feel what a absolute Dick Cameron's dad is
• 39:10
  like. It's the it's the friend's house
• 39:12
  where you're terrified of their parents.
• 39:14
  You can't touch anything. Yes, you're like, don't touch
• 39:16
  that. Don't and like, don't piss off
• 39:18
  these people's parents. Like totally.
• 39:20
  I'm sure. I'm sure Ferris is like the
• 39:23
  nightmare friend to. Cameron's parents, they're
• 39:25
  always like, you shouldn't be hanging out with that kid who's
• 39:27
  going to get you in trouble. Yeah, you know.
• 39:29
  Even though he's like, not really in trouble.
• 39:32
  Right. He's sort of a little.
• 39:35
  He's not causing harm. To anyone.
• 39:37
  That's the thing. Like you know he's causing
• 39:39
  trouble in like the fun. Way he's not like he's a bad.
• 39:42
  Kid hurting anyone, right? No one's getting hurt here.
• 39:46
  No, he's like, he's not like your friend who deals drugs or
• 39:50
  like you're free. Yeah, totally.
• 39:52
  He's not like. Not that my friends that dealt
• 39:53
  drugs are bad. People are lovely people.
• 39:55
  They're also doing a service that someone's got.
• 39:58
  It's a job and someone has to do it.
• 40:01
  All my friends that are drug were drug dealers in high school
• 40:03
  and college are great parents now.
• 40:05
  I just want to put that out there, seriously.
• 40:07
  It takes what it takes, you know what I mean?
• 40:09
  We all get there. Again, it's not a race, but but
• 40:12
  it is like, yeah, he's not, he's not hurting anyone.
• 40:16
  In fact, he's bringing joy to all the strangers that he.
• 40:20
  Interacts with Let's talk about the parade scene then.
• 40:24
  Let's talk about the parade. That, that scene, I just want to
• 40:29
  say I hadn't watched this movie in a long time.
• 40:31
  And again, this was my comfort movie as a kid.
• 40:34
  We, so we, we had a little video store of the street from our
• 40:38
  house about 3 blocks called Video Movie madness.
• 40:41
  Jim and his husband, I can't remember his name, ran it.
• 40:44
  It was like our haven. They were friends with our
• 40:46
  parents. We could rent whatever there was
• 40:48
  a room, we could rent whatever we wanted.
• 40:50
  Like they, they knew and also like we would rent movies for
• 40:53
  like weeks and he would call and be like, hey, someone else wants
• 40:57
  to rent that movie. Could you please send one of
• 40:59
  your kids up with it 'cause I need to rent it.
• 41:03
  But we would rent Ferris Bueller's Day off.
• 41:05
  I can't believe we didn't buy it.
• 41:06
  We just rented it all the time and.
• 41:08
  Why would you buy it when you can have it for free?
• 41:11
  But. We want, we paid like 199 or
• 41:14
  whatever, and then we had it for three weeks.
• 41:16
  But the parade scene was always my favorite moment as a kid.
• 41:20
  And we'd get on the coffee table and we'd dance like with Ferris.
• 41:24
  But watching that scene again as an adult, I had this like
• 41:27
  unexpected reaction where I started bawling and I was like,
• 41:31
  whoa, what is going on? And I was like, unpacked.
• 41:35
  Well, it was just so much feeling about how much I enjoyed
• 41:38
  this movie as a kid. But then I was watching it and I
• 41:40
  was like, it's one of those, it's one of those pop culture
• 41:43
  moments that's like trying to it's reminds you that this the
• 41:46
  80s and 90s, like we see no color, everybody's beautiful and
• 41:50
  the same kind of thing because they do this like pan of Chicago
• 41:55
  and you see all these different types of people dancing
• 41:57
  together. Yeah, it is very like it's the
• 42:00
  first time in the first of all, it's the first time in the movie
• 42:02
  that we see. See black people that's a well
• 42:05
  we see one other black we see two other black folks because we
• 42:08
  see a black student in Ben Stein's class and we see the
• 42:13
  black nurse, but that is one of the did not age with.
• 42:16
  Forgot about, but it's forgot about her fucking Chicago.
• 42:19
  It's Chicago that seems stuck out to me in a way, because I
• 42:23
  said, oh, now this actually looks like Chicago, You know
• 42:27
  what I mean? It's like, it's like how white
• 42:29
  Seinfeld makes New York. Exactly.
• 42:31
  It's the same thing. It's like Chicago, Yugo is
• 42:33
  historically a black city. It's like a black cultural city
• 42:38
  and we don't you're right. It's when we actually see the
• 42:41
  most black folks and that was one of the did not age.
• 42:43
  Wells for me was there's not a lot of black people in a movie
• 42:46
  about Chicago. About Chicago.
• 42:48
  Like that's why I was, I was so glad when finally it was like,
• 42:53
  there was there was this like group of people.
• 42:56
  I won't call them a choir because they weren't.
• 42:59
  A dance group. It was a dance group, I.
• 43:01
  Love the dance group. I that was immediately when I
• 43:03
  started crying as I was like, oh, this is me.
• 43:06
  I remember feeling this enjoying this scene so much watching
• 43:10
  people dance together in unison. But it is, it's a like, it's a
• 43:14
  black dance group, you see, like.
• 43:17
  At the German American parade. What is even that?
• 43:21
  Parade. I love it.
• 43:23
  I love that there was a German American parade in the middle of
• 43:26
  the week. That's the other thing is like
• 43:29
  it's like on a Wednesday or something like what is going on?
• 43:33
  And then the like the girls on the float just like go ape shit
• 43:37
  crazy like flipping their skirts up and down.
• 43:39
  Also, did you know that Donka shade in that version is by
• 43:42
  Wayne Newton? What?
• 43:44
  When he was like a kid, I thought it was Brenda Lee, but I
• 43:48
  googled it and it's in the credits.
• 43:50
  Wow. Yeah.
• 43:51
  That is news to me. It's.
• 43:53
  Bizarre. Bizarre.
• 43:54
  But yeah, that parade scene. That parade.
• 43:57
  Scene well that's so beautiful that you had a moment to really.
• 44:01
  I was like examining myself. I was like, why am I crying?
• 44:04
  What is going on? But it was just like.
• 44:07
  Sometimes you just need to. It just unlocked a thing that I
• 44:10
  was like oh man I have not felt this in so long.
• 44:13
  I forgot how much this movie. It's so beautiful to see people
• 44:18
  gather together. Yeah, that was the other thing.
• 44:20
  Marching and having a parade for fun.
• 44:24
  I think especially in the, I mean, this is like any moment in
• 44:28
  history, to be fair, but like the the feeling of divisiveness
• 44:32
  in the moment that we're in right now and the fact that like
• 44:34
  people are genuinely terrified to leave their homes.
• 44:38
  I agree with you. When I saw that, I was like, oh,
• 44:40
  the carefreeness of this moment. This very also pre 911 moment 2
• 44:48
  is like this just, I don't know, this unity is this like unity?
• 44:53
  And like how often do we mutually enjoy something in a
• 44:58
  public space where there's not people aren't afraid to dance.
• 45:02
  And yes, there was so much good, weird, funny dancing happening.
• 45:06
  Yeah, a lot of choreographs. Like everyone, the entire city
• 45:11
  of Chicago is dancing. People can hear the music from
• 45:15
  the 17th floor of the office building.
• 45:18
  You know what I mean? His dad's, his dad's like, yeah.
• 45:22
  And everyone's just dancing and having fun.
• 45:25
  And that's not to say that that, like, public demonstrations
• 45:29
  aren't important. You know, it's like, we got to
• 45:32
  get, we got to get out in the streets when we need to fight
• 45:36
  against things. But to see people gathered for
• 45:40
  the German American parade, they're not there.
• 45:44
  They're not protesting anything. And then here to watch a
• 45:47
  teenager lip sync. Yeah, to it's twisted.
• 45:51
  Out yeah just to just to be like look we're all having fun on a
• 45:55
  weekday I and we are in Chicago I love what the Chicago of it
• 46:00
  all I mean it's so. John, it feels like a very love
• 46:03
  letter to Chicago movie, too, because you see these scenes,
• 46:07
  you know, like the museum scenes and the even the restaurants and
• 46:11
  the drive, you know, the the driving.
• 46:14
  They're on the lake. Yeah, I forgot about that part.
• 46:17
  They're on the lake at the very end.
• 46:18
  Cameron's like. Catatonic.
• 46:21
  And then weirdly Sloan's like, did you watch me change out of
• 46:23
  my clothes? And he was like.
• 46:24
  Yeah, I was like. Why did we have to do that?
• 46:27
  This bumped me out and I also I really didn't like how they made
• 46:32
  like Sloan make the eyes at her boyfriend's dad she's.
• 46:37
  Like. I'm like, you didn't need to do
• 46:40
  that. They I mean that's that is a
• 46:42
  failure is like the she doesn't get she doesn't get a full
• 46:47
  character, which is not uncommon for movies not.
• 46:50
  Uncommon for those girls, but I mean she's like.
• 46:54
  But you still get a sense of who she is.
• 46:56
  And that's something else I would say is sort of timeless or
• 47:01
  like something that really ages well in that movie is if you
• 47:03
  look at Cameron Ferris and Sloan's outfits, they're way
• 47:09
  cooler than they don't look super 80s.
• 47:12
  None of them have super 80s hairdos.
• 47:16
  I I would say Jeannie like has the most 80s ish outfit of like
• 47:19
  a main character. But I those 3 outfits you could
• 47:24
  wear today and they would look awesome.
• 47:26
  You could have worn them in the 90s and they would look awesome.
• 47:29
  I just like, I love. I don't know who did the costume
• 47:32
  design, but it's one of the. Yeah, the costume design and the
• 47:36
  fact that I think one of the hardest things to do as a
• 47:39
  costume designer is is to work on a movie where it all takes
• 47:43
  place in one day. Yeah.
• 47:45
  And the the way that they nailed it that that the costumes
• 47:48
  captured everything that they needed to about each character.
• 47:52
  Yes, in one day. So cool.
• 47:55
  It's so cool 'cause like her fringe jacket is very 80s, but
• 48:00
  she's got this like timeless hairdo and like her, I don't
• 48:04
  know, it's just like it. She just it, it, it exudes how
• 48:08
  cool the characters are. Even Cameron is.
• 48:11
  You can tell Cameron cool. You can tell Cameron has good
• 48:14
  music taste. Like, you can just tell.
• 48:16
  I mean, Ferris is, is more obvious because the way they,
• 48:19
  they decorate his room, there's like a Carrie Voltaire poster
• 48:22
  and a damned poster and like a Simple Minds poster.
• 48:24
  And you're like, this guy's the coolest, definitely the coolest
• 48:27
  kid at school. Totally.
• 48:28
  But then you see his outfits and it's like that.
• 48:31
  I love that vest. The vest.
• 48:34
  The vest with a white shirt. Yeah.
• 48:37
  And he looks he's on a parade. He's on a parade.
• 48:40
  He looks amazing. It looks like a gap ad almost.
• 48:43
  It's like, so I don't know, it's so timeless and just like
• 48:47
  looking back at other movies of that era, it's just not time
• 48:51
  stamped that way. And it also, I think it a lot of
• 48:55
  80s movies are time stamped in the idea that there is one type
• 49:00
  of popular guy like Ferris Bueller, even though he is, you
• 49:04
  know, he meets all of these conventions of like, you know, a
• 49:07
  guy who can get away with stuff. Like we already said, he's like
• 49:09
  a white rich kid in the Chicago suburbs.
• 49:11
  He's good looking, all of that, but like he isn't the like, you
• 49:16
  know, he's not meeting the he's. Kind of an everyman.
• 49:20
  Yeah, he's a very. Rare like he's a guy that you
• 49:24
  could see hanging out with like the drama kids, but also could
• 49:27
  was friends with the football players, the sluts, the geeks,
• 49:31
  the Bordos, motorheads, bloods. They all adore him.
• 49:36
  And it's truly like, yeah, he's really like the campus everyman.
• 49:40
  And yeah, that is such a thing that usually in the 80s, it's
• 49:44
  always like the nerd. There's just always, you know,
• 49:47
  the the John Cusack's or there's Matthew Broderick, which is like
• 49:54
  kind of surprising when I he's the most cool he will ever be in
• 50:00
  that movie. To me, I think that character is
• 50:02
  like the most cool, but it is like the, IT is, again, an
• 50:05
  archetype of this effortlessly cool teenager.
• 50:10
  It's like almost like a James Deanie, Dylan McKay kind of
• 50:13
  thing. But he's not a jerk.
• 50:14
  And he's not, yeah, he's not like sort of elusive or like,
• 50:19
  you know what I mean? He's like, he's popular.
• 50:20
  He's like, I don't know how to explain it, but he's, he's not
• 50:23
  student council, but he's like, he's like the, I don't know.
• 50:26
  He's like, he doesn't feel a sense of obligation to anybody
• 50:32
  but his friends. Like he feel, he's kind of like,
• 50:35
  you know, he does what he wants whenever he wants to, but he
• 50:40
  doesn't have anyone who is trying to cut down.
• 50:43
  He's not going to put people in harm's way in order to like get
• 50:49
  what he wants. And he's it's not at the expense
• 50:51
  of other people other than like the adults who are.
• 50:54
  Right. But it's not like Jake Ryan and
• 50:57
  16 Candles who's just like kind of a piece of shit Jack guy
• 51:01
  who's hot and has a nice car. Totally.
• 51:04
  You know, and it's like, well, you definitely had to like you,
• 51:07
  you've. Had bad behavior.
• 51:08
  He's picked on people. Yeah, totally.
• 51:10
  Ferris doesn't pick on people. Ferris Bueller does not pick on
• 51:13
  people. He does not punch down, No, he
• 51:16
  does not punch down and I love that about him.
• 51:18
  Yeah, I think that's also what makes him a really likable,
• 51:22
  again, a timeless character. That's why we root for him.
• 51:25
  Yeah, You know, that's why we still root for him.
• 51:27
  That's why we're like, we don't want him to get caught.
• 51:30
  If he was Jake Ryan, I would be like, I want that piece of shit
• 51:33
  to get caught. I'm sorry.
• 51:34
  I'd be like, he's hot, but he deserves to.
• 51:36
  Be humbled Jake Ryan treats his girlfriend like shit.
• 51:40
  Yeah, like pimps her out for date rape.
• 51:42
  Oh my God, again, I'm sorry that I said that is my favorite John
• 51:46
  Hughes movie, 16 Candles, but it's pretty gnarly when you get.
• 51:51
  Down Oh, it is. People ask me all the time, like
• 51:54
  what's a movie that aged bad? And I you're like, go always say
• 51:58
  16 candles 16. Candles.
• 51:59
  Revenge of the Nerds? Yeah.
• 52:01
  It's tough. To watch, yeah, tough to watch.
• 52:04
  But this movie doesn't have that.
• 52:06
  No, it really doesn't. Again, there's like no random
• 52:08
  boobs. There's no like anti feminist, I
• 52:13
  don't know, like jokes. There's no.
• 52:17
  It's truly sort of apolitical, It really is, in an interesting
• 52:21
  way. They're at the German American
• 52:23
  parade having a blast. They're not.
• 52:26
  They're it's a very like, I think because Ferris Bueller is
• 52:32
  sort of an everyman. Yeah.
• 52:35
  He is. He's someone who we all want to
• 52:38
  root for. We want him to have a good day.
• 52:41
  We also don't want him to get caught.
• 52:43
  We also love all of the the like sort of pranks that he sets up
• 52:47
  to to facilitate his day. The the ending, the ending chase
• 52:55
  scene is like one of the best parts of the movie, frankly.
• 52:59
  But like you're like, you know, you're like, Oh my God, is he
• 53:02
  good? Even though you've seen it,
• 53:03
  You're like, you know. You still are like, oh, what are
• 53:06
  we going to do? Also, I didn't realize until I
• 53:09
  was like researching for this conversation that that is not
• 53:13
  like a sound design for the movie.
• 53:16
  That is an English beat song that like, and I really did not
• 53:22
  realize it was like an actual song.
• 53:23
  But there's also, in true John Hughes fashion, there's sound
• 53:27
  effects layered on top, of course, that make it work so
• 53:29
  good. But that the choreography of
• 53:32
  that chase scene. Is perfect.
• 53:35
  Again, it's the John Hughes hijinks.
• 53:37
  Yes, there's got to be a goofy chase scene.
• 53:41
  Where like all these different things have to happen in the
• 53:43
  right timing for it to work. And like the his mom screaming
• 53:48
  at Jeannie while she's driving like a total lunatic.
• 53:51
  And Jeannie's just like on cloud 9 because she just met the
• 53:54
  hottest weird guy she's ever met in her life.
• 53:57
  And then, and then you then they go over to the dad who's just
• 53:59
  like behind the the grandma. Also, elderly people in John
• 54:04
  Hughes movies are the butt of like every.
• 54:06
  They are. They are just disposable.
• 54:08
  They are totally disposable. Lol she's old old the.
• 54:13
  Lady driving and she can't see over the steering wheel but like
• 54:17
  all that is happening in succession.
• 54:18
  Or like when he jumps the fence and there's like hot girls
• 54:22
  sunbathing. Yeah, again, it's a weekday.
• 54:25
  It's a weekday. But I don't care because it's
• 54:28
  like we're a little removed from reality.
• 54:30
  Yeah, for sure. Enough.
• 54:32
  Enough removed that you're not. I'm not in the moment being
• 54:36
  like. But they wouldn't be there.
• 54:37
  It's a weekday. Yeah, you're like, oh, wait, of
• 54:39
  course he has to go back and charm someone.
• 54:41
  Of course, for a second, Ferris Bueller, hi.
• 54:43
  Nice to meet you. Ferris Bueller keeps going.
• 54:46
  It's so good. Yeah.
• 54:47
  Oh, it, it really is. I OK, I have to return to one
• 54:53
  other thing that I completely forgot, and it's really not that
• 54:56
  big of a deal. But again, when we're talking
• 54:58
  about Ferris Bueller's Day Off, there's not a ton to criticize
• 55:03
  when they're going up to the garage attendant who's going to
• 55:07
  be watching the car and the first thing he says is, do you
• 55:09
  speak English? I was like, bitch, I know.
• 55:13
  That also, again, felt like a very 80s.
• 55:16
  There's actually 2 moments where that happens because Jeannie
• 55:19
  screams screams at the 911 operator as well.
• 55:23
  And that is such a white person thing to do.
• 55:28
  To be like this guy is working class.
• 55:30
  Also, it's like another vaguely white.
• 55:32
  Guy like he's a white president I guess.
• 55:34
  Is he vaguely ethnic? Too right?
• 55:36
  I don't know. But I do love that he goes.
• 55:38
  What country do you think this is?
• 55:43
  And he's, I mean that. That guy's such a good character
• 55:45
  actor. I was looking him up.
• 55:46
  I can't remember his name, but he was the original drummer for
• 55:49
  Sonic Youth. No way.
• 55:50
  I know weird stuff. So cool, weird stuff.
• 55:52
  OK, you know what I also loved is when he and his friend OK one
• 55:55
  of the other black people in this movie.
• 55:57
  Yes, the other, the other, the one other Lieutenant guy, Yeah.
• 56:01
  OK, so they're driving in the car, they're having a joyride.
• 56:05
  And his friend is the one that at first looks terrified.
• 56:09
  And then his his look turns into Glee.
• 56:13
  He's joyful. And it's like no matter what, at
• 56:17
  any age, at any stage in life, you're going to have your Ferris
• 56:20
  Bueller's and your Camerons. And one of them is going to be
• 56:23
  scared. And one of them is going to be
• 56:24
  like, OK, let's just do this. And a joyride is going to be a
• 56:28
  blast no matter who you are, where you are.
• 56:31
  And it's come from everyone. Everyone's going to have that
• 56:36
  moment. Feeling of like, yeah, we're
• 56:38
  doing something we're not supposed to do, but it's like
• 56:40
  really not hurting anybody. So also it's again, John Hughes
• 56:46
  movies are a lot of series of vignettes and that is another
• 56:49
  one of those where you could see a scene with those guys and not
• 56:52
  need to know anything else about the movie.
• 56:53
  Also I feel like do they play like the Star Wars theme?
• 56:57
  Now I can't. Remember feel like when they're
• 56:58
  first like taking the car and taking it out and it's like
• 57:02
  another one of those like audio cues that John Hughes does to be
• 57:05
  like totally, this is going to be fun, this out of the.
• 57:09
  And it is. And it's just a moment with
• 57:11
  these two characters that we don't know anything about.
• 57:12
  Yeah, that's one thing I love too about John Hughes movies is
• 57:15
  side characters are so interesting even when they
• 57:18
  don't. Maybe they have 3 lines or maybe
• 57:21
  the the girl that picks up the phone and talks to Ferris
• 57:24
  Bueller or the two guys that are like they get the phone first.
• 57:27
  He's like, oh shit, I hope Ferris isn't really going to die
• 57:30
  because he's going to Get Me Out of summer school.
• 57:32
  And you're like, I want to know more about that guy.
• 57:34
  Like the side characters are almost as good as like they
• 57:39
  could be their own thing. Exactly.
• 57:41
  Like there could be a spin off about any person in this movie.
• 57:45
  Oh totally. And you know what?
• 57:46
  I'm so glad this reminds me when I said spin off.
• 57:50
  I'm so glad that there is no sequel.
• 57:52
  I. Agree.
• 57:53
  If this movie had a sequel it would suck.
• 57:55
  And actually, I think that they tried to do a sitcom in the 90s
• 58:00
  and it was like based on Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
• 58:03
  Obviously John Hughes was not involved at all, but it flopped,
• 58:06
  obviously. And I think that it's just like
• 58:09
  this. I don't think that Ferris
• 58:11
  Bueller's Day Off could get made today because it the breaking of
• 58:16
  the 4th wall doesn't really happen in feature films anymore.
• 58:19
  It's really more of like a TV mockumentary thing.
• 58:23
  Something like this wouldn't get funded because it's just one
• 58:26
  stand alone piece. It has no potential for sequels.
• 58:30
  Especially at the level that John Hughes was making movies at
• 58:33
  versus like this would be like a more already, I don't know,
• 58:36
  early Wes Anderson level film if it was going to be made in
• 58:40
  current day. Right.
• 58:41
  But I agree with you. Yeah, it just could not.
• 58:44
  How would you sell? This.
• 58:45
  How would you sell it? The way that people sell similar
• 58:49
  movies is by saying, oh, it's like Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
• 58:52
  Like it's yeah, no, I mean it. Truly is.
• 58:54
  That's a really good point. And yeah, I agree, the stand
• 58:57
  alone nature of it is what makes it really beautiful because you
• 58:59
  don't need to know anything else.
• 59:01
  And I don't want to. I'm not curious.
• 59:03
  I love the I love the look into this world that I get for one
• 59:08
  one day. And I it's there's it's just one
• 59:13
  of those things that was like written and it doesn't need to
• 59:15
  be expounded upon anymore. And I also read that like John
• 59:18
  Hughes wrote the 1st 50 pages of this the script in one night
• 59:23
  because there was an in a writers strike coming.
• 59:25
  Yeah, so he was just like. Excuse me, Let me just make this
• 59:29
  fucking amazing movie, Yeah. In like a week, he was just
• 59:32
  like, all right, here it is. And and it's yeah, I I never
• 59:36
  thought about that, but you're totally right.
• 59:37
  I don't want anymore. I don't want more, I just.
• 59:39
  Want this? The fact is this is a movie
• 59:42
  about a specific moment in time that is so fleeting.
• 59:46
  And it's really like, you got to make the most of it.
• 59:48
  It's it is Carpe diem. Yeah.
• 59:50
  And if we add on to it, it completely ruins the the entire
• 59:56
  concept that we started with, which was you're young and you
• 59:59
  got to like, live it up on this last day.
• 1:00:01
  This is your last year. It's senior year.
• 1:00:04
  You can't. You can't follow that up.
• 1:00:06
  Like I don't want to know what the fallout of Camerons daddy's
• 1:00:10
  car going through the window. I don't want to know what
• 1:00:15
  happens with Jeannie and Charlie Sheens character.
• 1:00:19
  His name is Garth Volbek or something.
• 1:00:21
  I'm good to Google. I know.
• 1:00:23
  Which is great because he was actually had a whole Side Story
• 1:00:25
  that they cut. Oh yeah, the director's cut of
• 1:00:28
  this was originally it was like 2 1/2 hours, which honestly I
• 1:00:31
  could have watched. I I mean I could, but this is
• 1:00:34
  where every good piece of art has had editing done to it I
• 1:00:38
  think. I agree and.
• 1:00:41
  The editing on this movie made it perfect because it didn't
• 1:00:44
  need to be. We didn't need anymore.
• 1:00:46
  Right, like I, I remember reading that there was a deleted
• 1:00:49
  scene where they ate like French food where they were like you
• 1:00:52
  gross and they ain't pancreas. And that's why when he says in
• 1:00:57
  the limo, we ate pancreas, not the limo.
• 1:01:00
  In the cab. Yeah, in the cab.
• 1:01:02
  I'm mixing up Home Alone 2 of course with of course, of course
• 1:01:06
  we need pizza in a common mistake.
• 1:01:10
  So yeah. And he says like we ate pancreas
• 1:01:13
  and it's not I'm not like, wait, what?
• 1:01:15
  I didn't see that. It's like.
• 1:01:17
  We knew they went to a fancy restaurant and the best part of
• 1:01:20
  that is not what they were eating, it was that he had that
• 1:01:23
  interaction with the the maitre. D Yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:28
  Abe Froman The sausage. The sausage of Chicago to get
• 1:01:33
  Snooty. Yeah, he's.
• 1:01:35
  So that's again a side character I would watch more of.
• 1:01:38
  I want to watch more about that. I would watch.
• 1:01:40
  I want to watch that man run that restaurant.
• 1:01:42
  Me too. I want to know.
• 1:01:45
  I want to know who his boss is. I want to know what made him
• 1:01:47
  like that. You know what I mean?
• 1:01:48
  Yeah. I want to know more about him.
• 1:01:50
  I want to see a day in the life. I want to see his day.
• 1:01:53
  He's such a good character. It's so good.
• 1:01:56
  He's. Like I took a bunch of notes,
• 1:01:58
  I'm trying to think if. There's any?
• 1:01:59
  Yeah, Let's see. Let's see what else we we might
• 1:02:02
  need to. Oh OK, I watched again.
• 1:02:06
  I watched this last night. My husband didn't tell me till
• 1:02:09
  after we watched it that it was the first time he'd watched it.
• 1:02:12
  No way. And the funniest part is he
• 1:02:14
  goes, I thought this was the movie where the guy stands
• 1:02:17
  outside with the boom box and I was like, this is where our six
• 1:02:22
  year age difference is so painful to me.
• 1:02:24
  Where I'm like, I am Gen. X and you are a millennial.
• 1:02:29
  But my son, my 4 year old, goes, mom, why are grown-ups going to
• 1:02:33
  high school? And I was like, well, they're
• 1:02:38
  playing teenagers and like, it's always bad.
• 1:02:42
  I mean, Greece is like the greatest example of like 40 year
• 1:02:45
  olds in high school. But like, I was reading Sloan
• 1:02:48
  was the actress that put me as Sarah.
• 1:02:51
  I was 18. Yeah, but.
• 1:02:53
  I think she was. The youngest of she was 'cause I
• 1:02:55
  think various or Matthew Roderick's like 26.
• 1:03:00
  Or yeah, mid 20s and then Alan, Alan Ruck.
• 1:03:05
  Yeah, Alan Ruck. He was, he's, I mean, he's a
• 1:03:07
  babyface though. He was.
• 1:03:09
  He was. 29 it's so. Funny.
• 1:03:12
  It's like Andrea nine O 2 and O, who was 30 when she was.
• 1:03:16
  It's like, but he looked the most like a high schooler out of
• 1:03:19
  everybody. Yeah, he does.
• 1:03:20
  He does have a babyface, but I did find that funny.
• 1:03:22
  When my son pointed that on, I was like.
• 1:03:25
  Yeah, movies. This is how movies go, son.
• 1:03:27
  Sometimes, you know, sometimes your 4 year old is the one who
• 1:03:31
  says the wisest. He's a real truth.
• 1:03:33
  Mom, I love that. I love that about kids.
• 1:03:38
  Oh, you know, I, I did read that there was an earlier version of
• 1:03:44
  the movie that Sloan said to Cameron something they were like
• 1:03:50
  talking about their future. And they got very low scores
• 1:03:54
  among young female varies for viewers during the screen test
• 1:04:00
  where she said a girl can always bail out and have a baby and get
• 1:04:03
  some guy to support her. And they were like, oh, everyone
• 1:04:07
  hated that. And they were like, oh, it was
• 1:04:09
  meant to be an ironic criticism of gender politics, one of the
• 1:04:13
  producers said. But.
• 1:04:14
  You're like, but you don't give her enough.
• 1:04:16
  For us to. Work off of as a character for
• 1:04:18
  it to know if that would be. How would we know that?
• 1:04:21
  That's ironic. How would we know?
• 1:04:22
  Yeah, we don't get. We don't know her.
• 1:04:24
  She is woman like. Honestly I thought she was
• 1:04:27
  French when I was a kid because she doesn't really talk that
• 1:04:31
  much and she has a kind of a weird accent.
• 1:04:34
  Not really. She's from New York.
• 1:04:35
  Yeah, but like, you just don't get that much from her.
• 1:04:38
  That would have bummed me out. Yeah, so I'm glad that they, I'm
• 1:04:42
  glad that they did that because she she didn't have to be put
• 1:04:49
  into that little box and the test, the young female test
• 1:04:54
  scores went up 40 points when after that when they were
• 1:04:59
  moving. So yeah, pretty cool that by
• 1:05:02
  cutting a single line they made it way better.
• 1:05:06
  Because I mean, I think you would remember that line and be
• 1:05:08
  like, wait a minute. What?
• 1:05:10
  Why did she say that? Like it's like even the the
• 1:05:12
  conversation they have when they're in the Stock Exchange
• 1:05:16
  and he's like, you want to get married?
• 1:05:17
  And she's like, no. And he's like, I mean, other
• 1:05:19
  than you being the only cheerleader with a husband, it
• 1:05:21
  wouldn't be that weird. And I was like, OK, this is
• 1:05:24
  pretty cute. Yeah, it was funny it.
• 1:05:26
  Feels like kind of cute, although I never at any point
• 1:05:30
  other in that point in the movie think that Ferris is that
• 1:05:32
  serious about her. No, you know, and I mean, I
• 1:05:36
  think that because he is so laissez faire about everything
• 1:05:39
  in life when he does that 4th wall break and says, you know,
• 1:05:43
  and I would marry her, but you know.
• 1:05:46
  I probably won't. The 4th wall breaking is
• 1:05:49
  interesting, yeah. I.
• 1:05:51
  Almost forgot about it until I watched it again as a really and
• 1:05:55
  I was like wow this is a strange thing.
• 1:05:59
  That was something I was going to ask you as actually, I mean,
• 1:06:03
  now we're coming up on an hour, it probably could be a perfect
• 1:06:06
  time to ask you cancel or call back the 4th wall break.
• 1:06:12
  Do we need to bring that back in our movies?
• 1:06:15
  I'm trying to remember when else it works well, I don't I don't I
• 1:06:21
  don't have enough. I don't watch a ton of movies.
• 1:06:24
  And the person that watches the same 5.
• 1:06:25
  It's so funny. You had one of my best friends,
• 1:06:27
  Keith Garcia on and he has like gently forced me to watch
• 1:06:32
  somebody else. He's so good at it.
• 1:06:35
  But he also will be like, I'm going to tell you the plot of
• 1:06:38
  this movie because I know that you won't go see it.
• 1:06:41
  And I'm like you are correct. He knows you.
• 1:06:44
  He's, he's just, he's just my, he's my gateway to so.
• 1:06:48
  So I love to tell him all the movies I've never seen.
• 1:06:50
  Because he's like, he's like your, your movie fairy
• 1:06:53
  godmother. He isn't, He doesn't judge me
• 1:06:56
  for not having. He's not like, Oh my God, you
• 1:06:58
  haven't seen. He's like, that's why.
• 1:07:00
  He is the one who should be the like doing what he does because
• 1:07:06
  you know what if if I was like, Oh, well, you know, the person
• 1:07:09
  who picks the movies for the C Film Center is going to be like,
• 1:07:12
  you haven't seen blah. Blah blah.
• 1:07:14
  He has none of that. None of.
• 1:07:16
  That so he just wants to share because he just loves it and he.
• 1:07:20
  Contextualizes movies and so and I just brought him up because
• 1:07:23
  I'm like, God, he's probably would listen to this and be
• 1:07:25
  like, there's 10 movies I know off the top of his.
• 1:07:28
  Head of his head, he'd be like, in the past three years.
• 1:07:31
  These are the movies that. Yeah.
• 1:07:32
  You know, I'm trying to think when it happens, but what I
• 1:07:36
  thought about that part of the movie was it could, I could take
• 1:07:39
  or leave it and it wouldn't matter.
• 1:07:41
  I think that it it works, but it's not.
• 1:07:44
  It doesn't detract from it in any way, but it's not
• 1:07:47
  necessarily I wouldn't, I wouldn't miss it.
• 1:07:50
  I also felt pretty neutral about it.
• 1:07:52
  Like I think that it's fun, It's something a little different.
• 1:07:55
  And I think that the way that they incorporate it into like
• 1:07:58
  the post credits where it's like the movie's over, you know, it's
• 1:08:00
  still here. It's just like it's cute.
• 1:08:03
  It's a cute, funny little thing that brings a little bit more
• 1:08:06
  joy to the movie, but I don't know that it adds so much that I
• 1:08:11
  would really miss it if it was gone.
• 1:08:13
  Yeah, 'cause it's like a lot of like procedural him just telling
• 1:08:16
  you how he's doing things, like, especially with like the how
• 1:08:19
  he's tricking his parents. Like the part where he's like,
• 1:08:22
  oh, don't you don't want to go with a fever that'll end you.
• 1:08:24
  And you get, you got a nervous mom.
• 1:08:26
  You end up in the doctor's office.
• 1:08:27
  And like, it is pretty funny, but it it's like, yeah, I don't
• 1:08:31
  know. I don't know if it's necessary.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah, it's cute though. It's cute.
• 1:08:34
  And the singing in the shower part, obviously.
• 1:08:37
  And like his comments on fascism and like, which is also kind of
• 1:08:41
  empty commentary, but it's still like pretty cute.
• 1:08:44
  It's cute. I guess you get a little.
• 1:08:46
  I think if if Ferris Bueller wasn't so, if the character in
• 1:08:49
  Matthew Broderick in this moment wasn't like so cute and likable,
• 1:08:53
  it might be annoying. It would be annoying if he
• 1:08:55
  wasn't likable because of course, when you're watching
• 1:08:57
  this, you're like, oh, I want that guy to be my friend.
• 1:09:00
  Totally. And so I understand the appeal
• 1:09:02
  of being like, oh, it's like he's talking to me.
• 1:09:04
  Yeah, yeah. But.
• 1:09:07
  But is it something that I hope film makers bring back?
• 1:09:11
  I'm. I don't know that I need it.
• 1:09:13
  I think it's kind of fun when they do, but I just it's it's
• 1:09:18
  only done well every so often. Yeah, a lot of the time I think
• 1:09:23
  that when I see a fourth wall break, it makes me think of, no
• 1:09:26
  offense, The Disney Channel, sure, where they're like, I bet
• 1:09:29
  you wonder how I got here. I have a sister who's my
• 1:09:34
  sister's always 14 years younger than me and she's like Disney
• 1:09:37
  Channel era kid. And it's so funny because she
• 1:09:39
  grew up on all that shit. And I'm like, I cannot watch
• 1:09:44
  this stuff. Yeah, I just can't.
• 1:09:45
  But also I was like an A teenager, 2 adult when she was
• 1:09:49
  watching this, right? Yes.
• 1:09:50
  You know, not her fault, it's not her.
• 1:09:52
  Fault I like I was literally watching cable be invented so
• 1:09:56
  she. Got the better.
• 1:09:58
  Like we were talking about like e-news or something was going
• 1:10:01
  off the air and I was like, I just want everyone to know that
• 1:10:04
  I saw the first day that E wow did the channel existed.
• 1:10:09
  Wow, that's big and it's not your and it's not your younger
• 1:10:14
  siblings fault for for being for being born.
• 1:10:17
  Later my first day of high school.
• 1:10:19
  Yeah, It's not her fault. Not her.
• 1:10:20
  Fault for that I. Was like oh cool, mom goes into
• 1:10:22
  labor and she's supposed to take me to school.
• 1:10:24
  Yeah. Great, Great.
• 1:10:26
  Thanks a lot, Zoe. Your grandma had to take me to
• 1:10:30
  school. Yeah, but she's fine.
• 1:10:32
  My sister is lovely. She's an EMT.
• 1:10:34
  Yeah, she's out. She's saving peoples lives every
• 1:10:37
  day. Thank God bless her.
• 1:10:39
  I know her and my mom. My mom's been an ER nurse for 51
• 1:10:43
  years. Whoa, yeah, it's pretty crazy.
• 1:10:45
  And I, I couldn't RIP a Band-Aid off without throwing up.
• 1:10:49
  I don't know how they do what they do.
• 1:10:51
  But could not be me. I'm like, I decided to do
• 1:10:55
  journalism. I'm like, I could write about
• 1:10:58
  it. I'll report on the accident, but
• 1:11:03
  I will not be there. Can't look at it, can't hear
• 1:11:06
  about it. Yeah, totally.
• 1:11:08
  Yeah. You know, so funny.
• 1:11:10
  There are some jobs. OK.
• 1:11:12
  I feel as though sometimes people in writing, in media are
• 1:11:16
  like, yeah, you know, I'm like the modern truth teller, you
• 1:11:19
  know, I'm like saving lives by like, you know, bringing the
• 1:11:21
  news to the people. And it's like there are some
• 1:11:23
  jobs that are literally more important, like EMTs are.
• 1:11:26
  Yeah. I'm afraid it's not the same.
• 1:11:28
  No, you know, an ER nurse is just not the same.
• 1:11:32
  Truly, I'm like my brother is a mailman, like he delivers your
• 1:11:36
  mail. Yeah, like you need the mail.
• 1:11:38
  You need the mail, you don't really need my blog.
• 1:11:41
  Like I love to think that you do need my blog.
• 1:11:44
  Yeah, if you're missing my Live Journal or my Myspace blog.
• 1:11:48
  Totally My Zaga life, my music blog when I was 14.
• 1:11:53
  Oh, God knows, you know how it goes.
• 1:11:55
  I do. Oh God, I have so many dead
• 1:11:57
  blogs. Oh my God, me too.
• 1:11:58
  I think it would be fun to one day when I've got, you know, a
• 1:12:01
  few days off. Maybe I'll take a Ferris
• 1:12:03
  Bueller's Day Off and just try and track down on the Internet
• 1:12:06
  where. I don't want to see him.
• 1:12:09
  I even in the. Back.
• 1:12:10
  I don't need to see any of them. Please don't.
• 1:12:13
  Don't don't have to, I wrote. So many regrettable things.
• 1:12:16
  God, I mean, as I did too. As I did too.
• 1:12:20
  I recently went through a bunch of my old stuff because I'm
• 1:12:22
  getting ready to do the mortified.
• 1:12:26
  Show. Oh my God, yeah.
• 1:12:28
  It's so much fun. Oh my gosh, I cannot wait.
• 1:12:31
  Oh, it's so fun. So excited.
• 1:12:32
  But going through some of my old stuff and like the things that I
• 1:12:35
  wrote in earnest, especially in high school, like a lot of the
• 1:12:38
  creative work. I'm like girl.
• 1:12:41
  The self seriousness. The way that the way were.
• 1:12:44
  You like a poetry person? Or were you all of it?
• 1:12:47
  All of it the way that any, any adult in my life would have been
• 1:12:51
  like, yeah, you should go into writing.
• 1:12:53
  I'm like you guys should've. That's.
• 1:12:57
  Insane that you've got it. If someone should've stopped me.
• 1:12:59
  Someone. I can't believe that anyone read
• 1:13:01
  that and thought, yeah, go ahead.
• 1:13:04
  I had an editorial called In Defense of the Spice Girls
• 1:13:07
  published in my school newspaper.
• 1:13:09
  Incredible. I did mortified and I read my
• 1:13:12
  diary about amazing. I had a dream that Kurt Cobain
• 1:13:16
  and I did heroin at the mall. So he's really seriously in love
• 1:13:23
  with him. Of course he's a Pisces.
• 1:13:25
  Was a big deal. That's why he feels things like
• 1:13:29
  that. Yeah.
• 1:13:29
  And then I went married a Pisces musician, so.
• 1:13:32
  You know, and he's still alive. Yes, and he's still alive
• 1:13:36
  because he did not do drugs, hard drugs.
• 1:13:38
  Thank God. Yeah, thank God.
• 1:13:40
  People are like, I think your husband's on tour.
• 1:13:41
  Like, how do you do? I'm like, I actually have like
• 1:13:43
  the most chill. Yeah, he doesn't.
• 1:13:47
  He's a, he's like a life of the party guy, but he's not a
• 1:13:49
  partier. He calls me, tells me what's
• 1:13:51
  going on. Totally.
• 1:13:53
  And he's not like a reckless. I don't know.
• 1:13:55
  I think people think a thing about touring musicians.
• 1:13:58
  Yeah, they're like, oh, I bet he's and I'm like, he's a
• 1:14:00
  different guy. It's like he's still the same
• 1:14:03
  job. It's literally his job.
• 1:14:04
  He takes it very seriously. He's like good at his job.
• 1:14:08
  People like, oh, do you go on tour with your husband?
• 1:14:09
  I'm like, do you go to to work with your husband?
• 1:14:11
  Right. I don't like, I have a job too.
• 1:14:13
  Yeah, believe it or not, I have a job.
• 1:14:16
  It's called Podcast. Casting.
• 1:14:17
  I don't know if you've ever heard it.
• 1:14:21
  So my mom's so proud of me. Actually my mom listens to the
• 1:14:23
  show every day she does which that is so cool except I had to
• 1:14:28
  tell her to stop giving me feedback every day she's.
• 1:14:33
  So glad at first I used to, so when I started this podcast, my
• 1:14:36
  mom would listen to the episodes and it was sweet.
• 1:14:39
  And then and then I eventually was like really glad when she
• 1:14:44
  kind of stopped. I could tell when she stopped
• 1:14:46
  because she like stopped giving feedback.
• 1:14:48
  And I was like, OK, good. Like I love.
• 1:14:51
  I just, I was like, I love you Brooke, but I cannot get
• 1:14:54
  feedback every day. Yeah, and my aunt listens every
• 1:14:56
  day and she's so sweet, but she'll just text me and she'll
• 1:14:58
  be like, there wasn't like a sounded like the ad break was in
• 1:15:02
  a weird place or something. And I'll be like, Oh my God,
• 1:15:05
  thank you. Like she tells.
• 1:15:06
  Yeah, totally. I just.
• 1:15:07
  Yeah, I'm like, I love my family that they're supportive.
• 1:15:11
  Yes, but I don't. We don't.
• 1:15:14
  I get enough. I have enough haters.
• 1:15:15
  I'm good. No, I'm good.
• 1:15:16
  My family's not haters. Your family's up in the comments
• 1:15:20
  like this dumb bitch. I've got an EMT like your
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  sister. Some of my family members have
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  told me that they lurk, like on our subreddits and stuff.
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  No way. Yeah.
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  Just to see what's going on, 'cause I don't look at that
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  stuff. Yeah, totally.
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  They're like, I just gotta make sure you're OK.
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  Yeah, totally. Make sure no one's like, doxing
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  you. Oh, totally.
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  Yeah, totally. I've been, I've kind of removed
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  myself from the Internet, from that, that level of scrutiny,
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  luckily, but I did, I did go through that when I was on
• 1:15:47
  Twitter. But yeah, you know, but now.
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  So yeah. I left Twitter in 2023 after
• 1:15:55
  being on it since it started 2008.
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  Wow, I know, so tragic it is. But you know what?
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  It's good to have a life. You know what?
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  Now look at us. Look, look at us now.
• 1:16:09
  We have lives. Not burdened by what?
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  People on Twitter. Think I know?
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  After someone called me fat for supporting abortion access, I
• 1:16:18
  was like, you know what? I'm done.
• 1:16:22
  It's enough. That's enough.
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  I'm good. It's fine that you think that,
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  but that's not related to my opinion.
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  Right. So I mean, but anytime a woman
• 1:16:31
  has an opinion, she is ugly. Ugly, stupid, fat.
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  Yeah. Just like what?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Thanks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I've heard it all. Heard about it.
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  Thanks. Thanks a lot.
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  New stuff. Thank you.
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  Yeah. Well, that's why we have to
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  enjoy every moment while we're young.
• 1:16:48
  That's true. Don't.
• 1:16:50
  I'm like, I've that ship sailed. Baby, Yeah, sorry guys, you
• 1:16:54
  cannot hurt me with your words like that.
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  I do not care. We just don't care.
• 1:16:59
  No, but if you do have positive things to say, write a review or
• 1:17:03
  write something really nice in the comments.
• 1:17:05
  I think folks don't realize that like nice comments and rating
• 1:17:08
  and reviewing actually helps us a lot as podcasters.
• 1:17:10
  It really does. You're probably thinking what I
• 1:17:13
  don't. I'm not made of money.
• 1:17:14
  I can't pay you guys. Well, guess what?
• 1:17:17
  Pay us with your time by taking 30 seconds and writing the
• 1:17:22
  nicest thing that you can think of.
• 1:17:24
  Yes, you know, tell and tell a friend.
• 1:17:26
  And tell a friend and say, I heard the funniest thing the
• 1:17:29
  other day on this podcast. You'd love it.
• 1:17:34
  I heard the most interesting piece of news, local news.
• 1:17:37
  It was fascinating. It was.
• 1:17:38
  Fascinating. Listen to the interview.
• 1:17:41
  I'll send it to you. Send them a link.
• 1:17:42
  Send them a link, please. It's that easy to send them a
• 1:17:45
  link and then they'll report back to you with the homework
• 1:17:48
  that they did. And that's like one of the best
• 1:17:49
  feelings ever is when you send a friend a thing and then they
• 1:17:52
  tell. You.
• 1:17:53
  Yeah. Listen to it.
• 1:17:54
  So use that as a way to bond with your friends, everybody.
• 1:17:57
  Bree, thank you so much for coming on the show.
• 1:18:00
  And I want you to know that Ferris Bueller's Day Off was a
• 1:18:04
  very popular choice right after you were like, we should do it.
• 1:18:08
  Really. Yeah.
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  I had. I had David and his partner on,
• 1:18:13
  and they were like, oh, can I mortify?
• 1:18:15
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:18:16
  And they were like, oh, can we do Ferris Bueller's Day Off?
• 1:18:18
  I said sorry, my girls already claimed it.
• 1:18:22
  I know I sent you a list of real bananas movies and I like.
• 1:18:25
  I don't know where she wants to go with this.
• 1:18:27
  I loved it all. We could have gone in any of
• 1:18:29
  those directions, but I'm so glad that we went in this one.
• 1:18:31
  This was such a thank you for inviting me and this was such a
• 1:18:34
  lovely experience because I don't get the opportunity to
• 1:18:37
  talk about popular culture in my everyday work life in in an in
• 1:18:42
  depth way and I don't really ever talk about movies.
• 1:18:44
  And it was revisiting this movie just brought up so many
• 1:18:48
  wonderful feelings that just, I don't know, I just I got to
• 1:18:52
  revisit something from my childhood that I hadn't thought
• 1:18:55
  about in a long time. And it was really enjoyable.
• 1:18:58
  It was like a nice it was the research was really fun.
• 1:19:01
  That is so fun. That's what we want here is fun
• 1:19:04
  homework. We want best homework.
• 1:19:06
  We want you to come on this show and say, wow, that was a perfect
• 1:19:09
  excuse to watch this thing. I love watching.
• 1:19:12
  I need to talk about the costume design of Ferris Bueller's Day
• 1:19:15
  Off. Thank you.
• 1:19:15
  Silly. And I get me a microphone to do
• 1:19:17
  it. Also, real quick, Louie
• 1:19:20
  Anderson, Cami, did you notice? OK, I just noticed this.
• 1:19:24
  I'm sure everybody's like no shit, Bree, but.
• 1:19:27
  Keith is in the background like. Come on, I'm just, I'm such a
• 1:19:30
  Louie Anderson fan. I mean, honestly, if if John
• 1:19:33
  Candy had been in this movie, it would have been perfect.
• 1:19:35
  Oh my gosh, he's. My I actually have a John Candy
• 1:19:38
  tattoo. You do?
• 1:19:39
  Because my old band had a song called John Candy's Long Story
• 1:19:41
  but I love John Candy's so I love SDTV alum period.
• 1:19:46
  Me too. But but the Louie Anderson cameo
• 1:19:49
  is really fun. Also, this is Kristy Swanson's
• 1:19:51
  first speaking part. Oh, I didn't know.
• 1:19:53
  That she, I guess she had a non speaking part in like pretty in
• 1:19:56
  pink or something, but she's Simone.
• 1:19:59
  Oh yeah, yeah, the beginning. My best friend's sister's
• 1:20:01
  boyfriend's brother's girlfriend knows this guy who saw this,
• 1:20:04
  knows this kid who saw Ferris mess on it. 31 flavors last
• 1:20:06
  night. I guess it's pretty serious.
• 1:20:09
  Thank you, Simone. No problem whatsoever.
• 1:20:11
  No problem. Whatsoever and Ben Stein in that
• 1:20:14
  movie is going God anyway anyway, but the perfect.
• 1:20:16
  Castings. Those were just like some fun,
• 1:20:18
  some fun other people we didn't talk about.
• 1:20:20
  Oh my gosh, yes, there's so so many other fun people that we
• 1:20:23
  didn't talk about but and so many other fun things.
• 1:20:25
  I mean look, we've been at this for an hour 20 and we've I feel
• 1:20:29
  like we could keep going for another five hours.
• 1:20:32
  This was great. This was so great.
• 1:20:34
  Thank you again so much and everyone go check out city cast
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• 1:20:45
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• 1:21:00
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• 1:21:11
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• 1:21:37
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• 1:21:41
  So cute.