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October 12, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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  Speaker 7: Hey there, Braves Valley football fans.
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  Speaker 8: Welcome to the Writer's Roundtable with Rusty Burson, Robert Cessna,
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  Speaker 8: and your host, Chip Howard. The Writer's Roundtable is brought
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  Speaker 8: to you by Intec and First Financial Bank.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome in.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a Monday, and Cease has had a terrific weekend.
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  Speaker 1: He is raring to go, ready to go. He's had
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  Speaker 1: a great weekend.
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  Speaker 5: He's in a good mood. Rusty's in a good mood.
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  Speaker 5: So we should have a great show today.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know, ain't him in a good game? Oh,
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  Speaker 7: wait a minute. No, they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: See, Cecil's told me the parking was unavailable at Austin
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  Speaker 1: Airport when he flew out Friday.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm going, that's the weirdest thing. I've never heard
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  Speaker 5: of that. And then I went, ah, the Austin City
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  Speaker 5: Limits Festival. He said, yeah, but.
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  Speaker 5: They come from all over the world. It's incredible.
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  Speaker 7: Seven hours, had to wait for the next flight, had
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  Speaker 7: to park in a hotel off about three miles away
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  Speaker 7: and take Uber back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Unbelievable. At least you didn't lose as often as Mike
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  Speaker 4: Elko this weekend. As far as I'm concerned, he's 0-3
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  Speaker 4: this week. He lost the game, he lost the press
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  Speaker 4: conference after the game, and he lost the press conference today.
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  Speaker 4: That was crap. I told Chip before this, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: You had all weekend to give that? If you're sorry,
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  Speaker 4: you say you're sorry. He never once said I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: He never once said I'm sorry for saying that stupid thing.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we've all said stupid stuff after we're upset.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what? I've done it a lot. The
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  Speaker 4: first thing I do is like, hey, I go back
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  Speaker 4: to that person and say, that was a really dumb
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  Speaker 4: thing I said. I apologize. You caught me at the
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  Speaker 4: wrong time. In the heat of the moment, I was just,
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  Speaker 4: I said something really stupid. And I am very sorry. No,
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  Speaker 4: he didn't come even close to that. I mean, that
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  Speaker 4: was pathetic. It's so, I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: Don't be wishy-washy. Tell us how you feel.
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  Speaker 4: I told Chip, too, this is, to me, what Saturday was.
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  Speaker 4: It was secret newsletter moment.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 4: It was losing in four OTs at K-State moments for
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  Speaker 4: your fifth loss in the second half.
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  Speaker 10: It was.
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  Speaker 4: Losing to UCLA. And then making up about a racial letter.
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  Speaker 4: It was Appalachian State. You're going to look back at
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  Speaker 4: this one day and you're going to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: there it was. There it was.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if we can top that, Jim.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go. Let's go home and go eat early.
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  Speaker 11: Well, the deal is I try to see every side.
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  Speaker 11: And Elko's very competitive, and he's very sensitive.
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  Speaker 7: And that's a tough combination.
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  Speaker 4: And he's about as good blocking out the noise as
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  Speaker 4: Reuben Owens is blocking a defensive back on a blitz. Wow.
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  Speaker 7: Wow. Just keep going. Give him the– oh, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 7: He does have a mic. Because– He's had these little
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  Speaker 7: escapades before or whatever. He ran it about the defense
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  Speaker 7: after the Vegas first year.
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  Speaker 5: You wrote about that.
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  Speaker 7: A professional press conference after losing to Texas. It wasn't.
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  Speaker 7: And sometimes, like you said, people around me that really
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  Speaker 7: know me, They go, I don't want to be there
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  Speaker 7: when you have the meltdown. Because when I have a meltdown,
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  Speaker 7: which my family can, I'm not me. I need a
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  Speaker 7: Snickers bar. I do like Snickers. You know, so I
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  Speaker 7: try to give some people a benefit. Because when I
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  Speaker 7: lose it, I lose it. Luckily, I lose it very
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  Speaker 7: few times. But when I lose it, I actually feel good.
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  Speaker 7: Because sometimes you've got to get that out of you.
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  Speaker 7: So trying to see every side differently. And I hope
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  Speaker 7: somebody close to him. You're a coach. You're going to
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  Speaker 7: lose at least 30% of your games probably. You've got
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  Speaker 7: to learn how to handle the losses. You're going to
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  Speaker 7: have bad questions. You're going to have people that hate you.
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  Speaker 7: You're going to have jerks. And he has a rough
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  Speaker 7: time handling that.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I hope I'm wrong about all this moment. I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't upset with the game at all because I expected it.
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  Speaker 4: It was exactly what I expected from the game. I
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  Speaker 4: told Cease leaving here, they're going to lose by 20.
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  Speaker 5: I was wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I missed it by one point. But I was not
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  Speaker 4: surprised at all. When he came out in the press conference,
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  Speaker 4: he had a harmless question. There wasn't even a dressing
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  Speaker 4: message board. He was given a softball.
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  Speaker 7: The last question of the press conference.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just to lob up, say, you know, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 4: I know you're frustrated. Stick with us. We'll get this
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  Speaker 4: thing turned around. And everybody would have been happy.
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  Speaker 7: What do you tell your fan base?
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  Speaker 4: Everybody would have been happy. It's an easy question. It
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  Speaker 4: was so easy. But then he had to go off
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  Speaker 4: on some tangent. Now, listen.
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  Speaker 9: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: I've been there like 10, 11 years. I tweeted something
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  Speaker 4: that I probably shouldn't about Jake Spavadal. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I've been hard on him. And I said, no, the
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  Speaker 4: problem is not Jake. It's above him. Referring to Kevin Sumlin.
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  Speaker 4: And Tex-Ags tore me apart. I mean, the message boards
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  Speaker 4: basically told me to go wherever, right? So guess what
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  Speaker 4: I did, Chip, for the last 11 years? I've not
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  Speaker 4: gotten on the message boards. I love Tex-Ags radio. I
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  Speaker 4: love what Billy does. I don't go on those message boards. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: Mike Yelko is. Obviously, Marcel is. Because they're so sensitive.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just, it's like, don't go there. I.
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  Speaker 7: You've got to stay off the message boards.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Because I had some interaction with my readers or whatever,
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  Speaker 7: and they said, I agree with you on this, I
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  Speaker 7: don't agree on that. I said, hey, look, stay off
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  Speaker 7: the message boards, number one. Yep. And once again, it's like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, don't do this. If you're an alcoholic, don't
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  Speaker 7: go down a liquor road.
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  Speaker 13: Right.
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  Speaker 7: And it's like, if you know you're going to be
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  Speaker 7: tempted by anything, don't go there.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 7: And sometimes human element, we just have to do it.
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  Speaker 7: We know it's going to be there. You know, you
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  Speaker 7: got to go there.
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  Speaker 4: I said it was like, you know, you know, the zappers,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the bugs.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: June bugs are drawn to it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of like that message boards because a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people are just drawn to it. And my wife said, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: you missed it. It's like Aggies are going to like
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  Speaker 4: flies going to dog poop. They know it's going to stink,
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  Speaker 4: but they can't they can't help it. They're just going
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  Speaker 4: to keep going to it.
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  Speaker 1: That's why people watch NASCAR for the wrecks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, funny you should mention, as a kid, we had
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  Speaker 7: a local racetrack. And everybody went there on Friday night,
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  Speaker 7: bike at Speed Hill. And so I got old enough,
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  Speaker 7: some of my neighbors took me. And he goes, you
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  Speaker 7: want to go? And I go, great. And he goes,
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  Speaker 7: you know. Somebody got killed a couple months ago, and
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  Speaker 7: I was probably like 12 or 13 or something else.
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  Speaker 7: I go, wow, you missed all the good stuff. And
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  Speaker 7: he goes, good stuff? What are you talking about? Because
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  Speaker 7: I said someone died. I go, yeah, good point. But,
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  Speaker 7: you know, it's like kids say the darndest things. I
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  Speaker 7: always remember that when everybody looked. I said you missed
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  Speaker 7: the good stuff, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Like Dallas-Fort Worth in the minor league hockey. You remember
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  Speaker 4: those games?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, the Blackhawks.
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  Speaker 4: The fights and the wings.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, loved that.
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  Speaker 7: And what you said is, and I reference this to
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  Speaker 7: my column today, that tells me as the game's imploding,
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  Speaker 7: Mike Yelka sometimes thinks of what's going to be out there,
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  Speaker 7: what's going to be said bad about you. And, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and luckily, I think, Chip, you more than me, you're on.
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  Speaker 7: What do you call it, talking head, people hate you.
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  Speaker 7: And I always love when people, every once in a
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  Speaker 7: while someone goes, you know, I don't like that Chip Howard.
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  Speaker 7: I never listened to him.
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  Speaker 5: You know what he said the other day?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so we get that sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: But at 49 years old, 50 years old, where he is. 52, 53.
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  Speaker 4: So here's what you have to understand. There's a difference between,
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  Speaker 4: we preach this in this Kairos training, there's a difference
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  Speaker 4: between reaction and response. Reaction is the heat of the moment.
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  Speaker 4: You don't ever want to do that. And I've learned
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  Speaker 4: this in 30 some odd years of marriage. It's like,
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  Speaker 4: you don't want to react when you're most, you want
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  Speaker 4: to respond because when you respond to something, you've had
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  Speaker 4: time to think about it. So what he did on
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  Speaker 4: Saturday was a reaction, not a response. He had a
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  Speaker 4: chance to make a response today and he failed, in
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  Speaker 4: my opinion.
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  Speaker 5: It's funny you should bring this up because I want to....
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  Speaker 1: I heard Lucci today and I really like the way
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  Speaker 1: he responded.
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  Speaker 5: I really do.
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  Speaker 1: He responded with calmness, A sensibility he could have fired
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  Speaker 1: right back.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 5: Easily.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure a lot of people did on the
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  Speaker 1: message boards. I don't have a doubt about that. But
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  Speaker 1: but the head of the guy, he said, well, Johnny
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  Speaker 1: Manziel called me and told me not.
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  Speaker 5: To do do it. He said, I'm taken.
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  Speaker 4: So the voice of reason is Johnny Manziel. The voice
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  Speaker 4: of reason is Johnny Manziel. Oh my gosh, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 5: Is that awesome?
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  Speaker 4: That is fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Well, who should know more about reacting rather than responding
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  Speaker 1: than Johnny Manziel, right?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So I just, I thought it was funny. I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was appropriate. And you're right, as a public figure,
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  Speaker 5: You know, he didn't get this at Duke, Rusty. Here's
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  Speaker 5: the thing.
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  Speaker 7: Bottom line, you're right.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he didn't get that at Duke. He could
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  Speaker 5: have been 3-8, 3-9. He wouldn't have gotten that at Duke, okay?
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  Speaker 5: He just wouldn't. And now if he's a basketball coach,
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  Speaker 5: that's a whole other issue. Right. But he's a football
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  Speaker 5: coach at A & M, and he has to know that.
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  Speaker 5: He's been around long enough. And he's given a period
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  Speaker 5: of grace, which he should be given when he steps in.
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  Speaker 5: He did okay. He did great last year, right?
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  Speaker 10: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Lots of expectations this year. Lots of expectations. I will say, Cease,
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  Speaker 1: I had this team at, I think, 9-3.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I had.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, me too.
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  Speaker 5: I think 9-3.
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  Speaker 4: Me too.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, no big deal. Win six games.
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  Speaker 1: But the preseason– message boards every year it's it's 12
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  Speaker 1: and 0 and then it's 16 and 0 right i
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  Speaker 1: mean that's just that's the mindset of the fan because
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  Speaker 1: fan is short for fanatic and that's the mindset and
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  Speaker 1: so he's he's had this period of grace until now
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  Speaker 1: and this isn't the season that anybody expected and.
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  Speaker 5: It started early right It started early.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm with you on that.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't lose me on the season. I'm not defending him.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just, I'm just, I'm explaining.
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  Speaker 14: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: But, but you're right. I mean, this stuff started early
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  Speaker 5: and now it's built to this. Oh my gosh. We're in,
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  Speaker 5: we're in Defcon five now.
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  Speaker 4: So he, he lost all my family, you know? And
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  Speaker 4: so my family are very fiercely loyal.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like my daughter who's in school right now, she had,
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  Speaker 4: She had an issue with the postgame. Her issue was
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  Speaker 4: when he said, we're building something. And she said, we're
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  Speaker 4: building what? I mean, like, it's falling apart. And so,
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  Speaker 4: but they didn't lose this at the game.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: He lost the press conference.
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  Speaker 5: What he said was.
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  Speaker 4: Just like, that's going to stick with him. And it's
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  Speaker 4: kind of like... You've seen coaches lose it like that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a man.
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  Speaker 5: I'm 40.
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  Speaker 4: That's still with him.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 4: Or Les Miles, the bizarre stuff he did at LSU.
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  Speaker 4: If he was still coaching, that was still with him.
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  Speaker 4: These are things that are hard to forget, especially as
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  Speaker 4: an Aggie fan. Because Aggies are very forgiving. Very forgiving.
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  Speaker 7: But they remember, too.
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  Speaker 5: They do remember.
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  Speaker 7: It's just what you rattled off.
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  Speaker 5: And the deal is.
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  Speaker 7: He could go on unless he wins a national championship.
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  Speaker 7: But whatever he does, the next 11-2 season, if he's
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  Speaker 7: lucky enough to have one, someone's going to say the
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  Speaker 7: first time he loses a game. You remember back in
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  Speaker 7: 2026 when he did that? He's got to live with that,
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  Speaker 7: and he's got to try to live with it better
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  Speaker 7: because here we are. There's national talk shows. There's a
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  Speaker 7: very small segment of fans. that fit what he talked about.
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  Speaker 7: He called them the right, who they are, but don't
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  Speaker 7: give them the platform.
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  Speaker 4: He was, he was national news yesterday. Andy Staples was
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  Speaker 4: at a podcast about him and we went on and on.
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  Speaker 4: Andy Staples, one of the most respected journalists out there
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  Speaker 4: covering college football.
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  Speaker 5: You don't want to be. Paul Feinbaum.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they're out there making comments about what a
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  Speaker 4: stupid comment that was. And that this is like, you
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  Speaker 4: already have had a really rough season and, You just
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  Speaker 4: made it way worse for yourself.
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  Speaker 5: Way worse. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Two more gasoline on the fire.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And it's like, it should have never been there. And
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  Speaker 7: I talked to a fellow person in the business today
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  Speaker 7: and said, like, you got to remember. He had that
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  Speaker 7: five or ten minutes cooling off period. I mean, they
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  Speaker 7: didn't put him in right away. And he made it
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  Speaker 7: on the last comment.
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  Speaker 12: Right.
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  Speaker 7: So he handled everything. He took responsibility time after time again.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he said all the right things.
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  Speaker 7: Didn't throw anybody under the bus except himself.
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  Speaker 15: Right.
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  Speaker 7: But then let me throw all the Aggies under the bus.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Every one.
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  Speaker 7: And, okay, I get it. He didn't see that coming.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Man, I'm kind of surprised he didn't see that coming.
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  Speaker 4: At first, I had to go back and rewind because
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  Speaker 4: I thought he said Robert Cesspool.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I always have to laugh.
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  Speaker 7: Because growing up, a lot of people, when my friends
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  Speaker 7: got mad, they'd call me Cesspool or Ceasepool. Think about it.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody calls me Cease. And I go, you don't want
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  Speaker 7: to go there, Elko. You're in bad company when you
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  Speaker 7: did that. And we can laugh because... Because it's not us.
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  Speaker 7: It's not us. And when he does... But I'm telling.
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  Speaker 4: You, I relate to that. But you've got to come
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  Speaker 4: out with, I'm sorry about that. That was really not
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  Speaker 4: a very smart thing for me to say. And he
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: didn't address that. And that was, to me, the huge
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: elephant in the room. That should have been the first
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: thing he came in on. Come in hot and say, listen,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: thanks for being here, Billy Lucci. Let me just say
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: right up front, what I said at the press conference Saturday,
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: that was not smart of me to say. And I
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: want to apologize. And had he done that today, He
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: would have won a lot of people back. And instead,
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: they're still hanging around.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: So let me just read what he said.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: The regrets.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Just to address the post-game conversation, again, I think in
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the heat of the moment, I think I answered a
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: question in a way I certainly regret. I think everybody
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: knows I have a tremendous relationship with Billy. I appreciate Billy.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I appreciate him being here today. There's nothing about Billy
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: and I that have ever been off since 2018. I
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: think everybody knows I appreciate our fan base and everything
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: that they're about. Everything that they need at Texas A
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: & M. And outside of that, I leave it alone.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: So I just regret. I regret the way it was taken.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I regret the way it came out. I regret the
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: way it ran. That was certainly never my intention, and
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: certainly throughout the course of that interview, at no point
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: ever did I lend any blame to any other than myself.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I am the reason why this team is struggling. I
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: have owned that since this has started. I continue to
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: own that. It's my job to figure out how to
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: get it better. That's a complete comment for those of
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: you that did.
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: Well when I walked in and you come out of
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: left field a little bit on me I didn't expect
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: you to say what you said but I will say
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: I usually sit up in the front your chipsets we
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: all have our kind of seats I'm in the back
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: and as I'm trying to input everything real quick I
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: did notice he never said I'm sorry You know, which
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: you brought up, which I didn't, personally, I didn't think
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: at the time that would matter much because I still
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: had a time to go back and look at it
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: because it's a hectic Monday. I got to do a
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: lot to do. I do my column after the show.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: So I go, okay, I need to go back and
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: look at that. And I immediately thought it's like a
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: lot of people that have a rough time saying I
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: love you. You know, and it's at least my thoughts.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: Some people having a rough time saying i'm sorry or
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: some people just really having a rough time with words
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: and that's my initial thought at the time.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: So i think in fairness i grew up in a
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: household where my mother couldn't say she was sorry my
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: mother was never wrong okay ever good i mean she
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: might acknowledge that she's wrong but.
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: She'll never say it i've been around people like that and.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: So I'm hypersensitive to that. Like if people say, go
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: back and read the first part, I think.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Is that what he said?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I think in the heat of the moment, I answered
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: a question the way I certainly regret.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: I think?
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: No, you did.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: In the heat of the moment, you answered it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: No, you guys can, once again, as I always say,
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: read between the tea leaves. I thought, okay, my initial
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: reaction was, he's having a rough time even saying he
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: regrets it. I mean, because he just has a rough
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: time with his emotions. And, you know, this is me speaking,
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: and God knows how many times I'm wrong. And my
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: wife just said amen, and my kids. I mean, that happens.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Me too. Me too.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: But I'm just thinking to myself, man, he can't say
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I mean, it's just not in his nature.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: And I go, we all have our issues. agendas or
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: hidden problems, so to speak.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my buzzword probably.
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: I can relate with that or whatever. But I immediately thought, hmm,
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: he never said I'm sorry. And as he went on,
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: every time he said regret, I thought he had a
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: rough time because– It was just a quick reaction, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: he probably doesn't– at the time, I don't think he
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: realized how much that meant to everybody, that you can't
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: say that. He's not the president of the United States,
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: but he's the president of A & M football. And
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: there's millions of people out there. What's affected by that?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll say this again. He doesn't hide his emotions.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: No, he doesn't.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: His emotions are on his sleeve constantly, right?
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what he said, what gives you confidence that you
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: can turn this around?
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know what? It's interesting about that, though.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: I will say this, Rusty. As confident as he has been.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen that the last couple of weeks. I've
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: seen more of, man, like last week before this Missouri game.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't have that answer. Sometimes it's too honest.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: He is very honest to a fault. And it's like, man,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: we're doing all we can do right now, right? All
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that I know how to do.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Let me put it that way, right?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And that's an interesting place to be for a guy who.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Is confident in his ability.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: But I think the team follows the coach, too. I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: don't think that confidence is nearly what it's been. And
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have an answer. And if he did, we'd
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: probably see it on the field. And he knows stuff
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: that we already think is that this team is just
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: not very good as it's put together.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: He put it together. And the pieces don't fit. And
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: he knows the pieces don't fit.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: And he knows it's going to be a long season.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: Getting back to one of your points about his emotion
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: and quickness, I'll go back to a few times when
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: he does try to be very cordial and interact with
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: the media better than some other coaches. There's a couple
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: times when someone asks a question and he'll get a
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: smile on his face and he'll go, let me try
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: to be nice. You chuckle because I'm saying to myself,
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: A Sumlin or a Fisher would just give a coach
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: speak answer and go dah, dah, dah. But he exactly
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: says how he feels like. In other words, boy, that's
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: a stupid question. But I'll try to be nice.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Well, he just told the guy, he said, I thought
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I answered that question at the beginning.
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: And he did.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: And he did.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: But, and then he gave, you know, another answer.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: But you're going to have that. I ask, I always say,
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: there's no such thing as a bad question. Because if
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: you get a response.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Only bad people who ask the question.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: There you go. There you go. But, you know, to
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: me it goes back to, man... The guy is so competitive,
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: he almost needs what he calls a life skill coach
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: or something. I mean, seriously, he needs somebody after he goes,
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: here's what you did wrong, coach. I mean, today, you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: because— Let me throw.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Something out here, Cease. You know that in the old days,
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: sports information directors who were in charge of coaches would
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: do that stuff.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: Correct.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Yep, correct.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Right? They handled those guys. That's not the case anymore.
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: Johnny Keith was hired.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: To go ahead.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: And tell Jackie.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: You're a jackass, Jackie.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: And he did.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: And then, because Jackie was losing the media time after time.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: Yes. So he brought, Keith was great.
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah. He wasn't a yes guy. At what he did.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: They don't have that anymore.
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: And he needs someone.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: There's nobody. And there was an interesting question.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe you asked that question, Cease, about who do you
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: go to when things get bad.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: It was a really good question. Okay. And he said,
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: I have a group of people.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: And I thought he would.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: And I believe it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I do, too.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: But he doesn't have media people.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: No, a media person that is savvy with that going, hey, coach.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I remember.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: Is Mike McKenzie around?
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: No.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. There are so many examples that come
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: to mind. But I remember early in his career, Kobe
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Bryant said something or was accused of sexually abusing somebody.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: And he came out right away and his wife was angry.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: He apologized profusely. Yes. And his image was really restored.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, so it came back. But Americans in general.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Are very forgiving if they do it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: Darryl Strawberry, for example.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, that's a great example.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: Time goes on and in because we're all human. I mean,
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: come on, I hope a lot of listeners went to
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: church on Sunday. I slept in. I was exhausted. I
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: wish I'd have been there, but God, I need help
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: every day. And you'd hope people do that way, but man,
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: he needs help.
• 25:14
  Speaker 16: I think.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I think, Chip, you point out a great point. I mean,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: that he doesn't have a media person telling him, hey,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: this is what you.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: Need to do.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Or one that he respects enough to tell him what
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: One who's too afraid to tell him.
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: It's hard to take tough love or tough criticism.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's very hard for everybody.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: Because know what he wants to do.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: For everybody. But a head coach.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: These guys are– this is a multimillion-dollar industry we're talking about, right?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And the head coaches know this, the majority of them now, right?
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, they understand. And consequently, we don't get much
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: visceral reaction anymore. You don't get a lot of coaches.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: You get a few, and they always make headlines. But
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: they've been told better. They won't give you anything. They
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: won't tell you anything. They won't show you anything. Because
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: they don't want it on.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: True.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: Elko is refreshing a lot of times because he's so honest.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: But now it's got him in trouble a little bit.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: Or not in trouble, but showed the bad side of it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: You know, another... Case in point, I guess, with Lane Kiffin,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: after they lost to Ole Miss, came in there, and
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: it was hard to really hate him because of how,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, broken down he was. You know, he was
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: talking about his dad and all the memories. And he
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: had– it's like, oh, man, that's very human.
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if a media person told him, like,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: you know, don't come in there firing.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, I know that they were chanting, blank you, Lane.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: You know, but– you've got to handle this and defuse anything.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: And so that was the great way to do it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know that Elko probably needs a guy to
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: come in here and say, this is what.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: I advise you to do. He needs someone to do that.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Because what he needed to do was the Saban rat
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: poison deal. I mean, he just needed to say who
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: that small group was. Don't put a name to somebody
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: and do the whole group because not everybody takes rat poison.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: You know what I mean? And it's, And it's easy
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: for us to sit here and second-guess after the second.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: Because it's not going to go away. So, you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: I mean, what's going to make it worse, let's be honest,
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: a two- or three-game winning streak would put it in
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: the rear view mirror. But it's not going to happen.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: This team's not going to do that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, a two-game winning streak would really put
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: it in the rear view mirror.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Because they'd beat Alabama.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because they'd beat Alabama.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, anywhere in the rest of the season, it's
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: not going to happen.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: It's going to be hard. This weekend could be the
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: last win. I mean, I'm not saying it will. But
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: when you start looking at it on paper, like maybe Tennessee.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Tennessee's not very good. They barely beat Arkansas.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: A rivalry game, which you said last week when I
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: said Texas was so much better than Oklahoma.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: What'd I say? And I'm kicking myself for picking Texas.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I told Kurt Bowles last week, I said, you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: if I had any guts, I saw it coming because
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: it's a rivalry game.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: I've seen it all my life.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I know how these things work. You go in, this
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: team's so much better. This team's terrible. The coach is
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: on the hot seat. Everything you could possibly have. That
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: could happen in November. And you know what? I want
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you guys to think about this during the break because
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I said we need to pause.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: We need to think before we talk. So I want
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: you to think about this.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Is that game the only game left this season on
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: this team's calendar?
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: But I'm also going to say it. When Franchoni won
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: his last game in Texas, that was just a rivalry.
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: They played one of their best games.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: No doubt.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: Because it was a rivalry.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: No doubt.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: He was at the lowest part of his career. He
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: won the game.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: He'd actually already been told he was fired.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 29:00
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: It's the theme song for Coach Elko this week. Robert Sessa,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Rusty Burson, the writer's roundtable for a Monday brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by Intec and First Financial Bank. So we hadn't
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  Speaker 1: talked anything about the team, and maybe that was the
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: whole point to begin with. I kind of thought about that,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: but anyway, uh, I don't think there's any point in
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: talking about the Citadel. But I want to go back
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to this idea, cease of confidence, because you heard Marcel coming.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And again, to his credit, he's coming in every week
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and facing all.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: He may not give you the answers you want.
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  Speaker 7: He says the right things.
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  Speaker 1: But he's coming. He's showing up, right? So from Elko's,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: it's like he says... And I wrote down some quotes
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: from the first part that I played. Everything is on
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the table. We're exploring every option, personnel, tempo, style. He said,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: let's see. Well, right about that. One of the issues
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: is when the offense is dying, there's more than one thing. Yes,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the quarterback play isn't good. And we've said that, I think, repeatedly.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: The quarterback play isn't good. Would the whole offense be better?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Possibly with a quarterback. I just watched a game in
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Dallas where both quarterbacks were terrible. But the winning quarterback
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: made two plays at the end of the game.
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  Speaker 5: So I had to play.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: They made two throws at the end of the game.
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  Speaker 5: But they didn't make a mistake. They didn't make a mistake, right?
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: So here... When things are going bad, you have a turnover.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: That's going to kill you.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: You have a guy when it's second and four. If
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: you've made six yards running and jumps off sides, then
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: it's second and nine.
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  Speaker 5: That's going to.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Change what you want to do. Then you have several drops.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: When he does make a good throw, you have some drops.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: We hadn't seen quite as many this year as we've had.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: No, we haven't.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: But we have seen them, right? Yeah. When you're struggling,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: you better have everything going perfectly right now, which would,
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: in my mind, be what it would take.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: And you left out Reuben Owens. That was one of
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: the plays that stuck out in my mind the most.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: He's in there for one reason, to pick up a blitz.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And the guy runs right past him.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, right past. It doesn't lay a finger on him.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: And Marcel gets sacked.
• 36:08
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's not Marcel's fault.
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  Speaker 12: Right.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, nobody touched that guy. I mean, like.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: The line play has not been good. Right?
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 5: They can't run the football.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: I'm a big Steelers fan. So yesterday... I.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Can attest to that. He was watching the Steelers on
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: his phone while eating with his family.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: I'm getting around this. Aaron Rodgers, in his first 10 passes,
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: the average time he threw was 1.78 seconds.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: Because their line is that bad.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: Their line is that bad.
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: And I was listening to you driving over, Chip, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: I thought to myself is, what I think the biggest
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: difference from this year's team to last year's hit on
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: me we don't realize what one second will do. Their
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: line was so good last year, he got that maybe
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: one extra second all the time. And in football, that
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: one extra second, maybe that guy can go five more
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: yards and he's open. Maybe he can do that. But now,
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: what do we hear? Receivers can't get separation because they
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: don't have time. That offensive line was so good, and
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: they ran. The hole was there. And I think this
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: gets always back to me. The SEC is such a
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: line of scrimmage.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can go back in history of A
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: & M, all right? Johnny Manziel, when he won the Heisman,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: that was a great offensive line. Kellen Maughan, 2020, when
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: A & M went to the Orange Bowl, great offensive line.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: So Kellen Maughan was the last quarterback here that I
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: can recall who actually got better as his career progressed.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: A lot of it was.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Because that offensive line was so good that year. And
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: you're right. I mean... Marcel has thrown a lot of
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: bad passes this year. I'm not going to take any
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: blame off of that. But he is running like he
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: knows it's coming. He's got to make a quick decision.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: And when he gets rid of it very, very quickly,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: it's usually a good play. When he holds on to it,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: that's when things get real dangerous.
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: And getting back to what you also said coming ahead
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: on me, how many times do I cover a game
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: and the winning team had like 14 penalties for 130 yards?
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: But they also had eight or nine explosive plays.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: No explosive plays.
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: They were so good. This team cannot make explosive plays.
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: So every time they have a holding call, drives over.
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, Chip, they can't do it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Chip, I'm watching the first half, and I'm like, man,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: it's like watching the Rangers and Astros compete for the
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: title because how can you be so bad and still
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: be in it?
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Because that's what A & M was like. It's like, jeez,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: they're in this game. They're going to touch that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: They were.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: I'm in there.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Well, the defense played really well.
• 38:44
  Speaker 14: Oh, terrific.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: First turnover. Then they got worn down.
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, first turnover, I go, A & M' s going to
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: be up 7-0. Twice, I thought they should have been
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: up 7-0.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, that first quarter, they should have.
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: And then what happens if you're up 7-0? Because this
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: team does not have any confidence.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: They do not.
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: They don't do anything to get confidence. They had a
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: chance to get that confidence.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's night and day. I'm watching Indiana. you know,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: and how they're down double digits, and they're just confident
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: they're going to come back.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: They've done it before.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: You've done it before. You don't see any of that
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: at A & M.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And it's a reflection of coaching.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So let me throw, well, let me throw something else
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: out at you as well, because you've got so many
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: new players from year to year, right? You don't have
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a chance. There's holdovers from last year's 11-win team. I'm
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: not saying there's not, but the majority aren't, right? I mean,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you're not building that. You talk about offensive line play.
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: Trey Zun, a leader.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: You talk about offensive line play.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Those are the guys that need the most. Well, now
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: they're going out and trying to get.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Seniors from some other team who has... supposedly developed over
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: all this time. Well, that's good.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: But he had been playing with the other five, four guys,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: you know, that he's going to be in the line
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage whiffs. It is a whole nother ball game.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Again, no excuses.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Other teams are doing it too. Other teams are doing
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: it and winning. I'm not excusing anything. I'm explaining the
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: possibility of why you're seeing some things the way they are.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: Those aren't going to change.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: And it might best be he did a really good
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: job evaluating talent last year and not nearly as good
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: I don't think he has the team he thought he had.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: I really don't. I do not think he has the
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: team he thought he built.
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: Once again, back to getting back to honesty, he said
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: it about the passing. And when you talked about it,
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: he's too honest because he does. I don't think Horton
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: is who they thought they would be. No, I think,
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: you know, I don't think some of the defensive line lineman,
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: they got in or the offensive line or the offensive lineman.
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: It's not who they were. And thus you've got holes.
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: And once again, it's such a drop off from the
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: guy you're paying 200, $ 300, 000 to the guy that's getting nothing.
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, there's a reason he's getting nothing, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: and it's, It's getting back to our confidence. And when
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: things go wrong, they go wrong. And let's not forget expectations.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: Aggies thought they were done with the 8-5 seasons. Now
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: they'd be lucky to have an 8-5 season.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they are done with 8-5.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: It looks like it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: We can laugh, but it's not a laughing matter.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it does look like it. And as we talk, unfortunately...
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: Our message boards are lighting up.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: If you don't want to hear the bad, don't go
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: to the message board.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Two and seven, one and eight is a real possibility
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: in the league. I mean, it's just that's the reality.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: That's the SEC.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Unless something changes. Yeah, exactly. You know.
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  Speaker 4: Dramatically.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: If you could see something on the horizon that could
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: possibly change.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, every week there's a shocker. Who thought South
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Carolina was going to go into Florida?
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: And beat them.
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  Speaker 7: Florida, two bad losses in a row. They were overrated.
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: They won a game and everybody thought.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Probably.
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: And that happens.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Probably.
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: But when you guys hit on something, if one thing
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: could work, I thought K.J. Edwards getting him more snaps
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: was good, but he couldn't run because there was no holes.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: They couldn't get holes against that Missouri line, not like
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: they could the other teams. And sometimes it is about matchups.
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: And if they could just get something to work.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like you said, that quarterback hasn't thrown an
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: interception all year long. And right off the bat, A
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: & M picks one.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Zero interceptions.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: First one of the year.
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: And you're like, okay.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: That's us.
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: You got a chance.
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: That's what you're thinking.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: You got a chance. You go down there, score, put
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  Speaker 4: it at 7-0.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Then you throw an interception.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Then you throw an interception.
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And that was a bad throw. Yeah. That was not
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: a good throw.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: And then they have. second and four, and they get
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: a motion penalty.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Well, and then they come right back with that short punt,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: 22-yard punt.
• 42:40
  Speaker 14: Yep.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: So A & M' s.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: Got it right back in there.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: And, you know, they got the field goal.
• 42:43
  Speaker 14: Yep.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a weapon. Oh, he's a weapon. You know,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: I wasn't opposed to Elko kicking the field goal late, too.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: You still needed three scores.
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: So you haven't had success on offense. Go ahead and
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: get the points.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And hope something happens.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I'm with you. Yeah. Because that made it 20-6.
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  Speaker 12: Right.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think he regretted that.
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  Speaker 5: He did not regret that.
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  Speaker 7: It is what it is.
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  Speaker 17: The Dallas Cowboys are left with more questions than answers
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  Speaker 17: Head coach Brian Schottenheimer spoke after the game on what
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  Speaker 1: What else caught you boys' attention this weekend? There were
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  Speaker 1: a couple of really good football games on.
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  Speaker 7: You asked us that Texas question. When did you want
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  Speaker 7: that answer?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, which question was it?
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  Speaker 7: You said a Texas game, the only one that's left
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  Speaker 7: that we went to break.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, is it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Am I right?
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  Speaker 5: Is that the last game left?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you asked the question.
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  Speaker 4: That's the only one that I care about.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 7: I think it is. Let's say, for example, you beat
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  Speaker 7: South Carolina and Tennessee. Texas is the one that matters.
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  Speaker 7: If he could beat Texas, he'd get a lot of
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  Speaker 7: people back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be big. Gives him momentum going into the offseason.
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  Speaker 7: And like you said, it's a rivalry game. And he
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  Speaker 7: hasn't done it.
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  Speaker 4: How bad is Jeff Banks coaching at Texas?
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  Speaker 5: Holy moly.
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  Speaker 7: And heard his name mentioned. I go, wow.
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  Speaker 4: Special teams.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: You know, he was the guru for a while, right?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was the guru. And they have been terrible.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Terrible. In fact. Sark was asked about that right
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: after the game.
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: He was asked about that. Wow. Yeah.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: He's asked two questions. Among the two questions, would you
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: consider an offensive coordinator?
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: He said, no way, which is stupid. Yeah. And number two,
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: would you consider changing special teams coach?
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I think Jeff Banks is on the hot seat.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, he's got to be.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Because this is at least the second year in a row.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: The only reason he wasn't last year is because Ryan
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Niblett kept returning punts, right?
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: It wasn't because any other phase of the special teams
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: was any good.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: But Ryan Niblett returned punts, and so that covers up
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: some of the other special teams' problems.
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: Maybe his wife will get a new monkey.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: How about that Kentucky LSU game?
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was entertaining.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: That was very entertaining.
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: Yes, it was. We listened to a little bit driving back, though.
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh. That was entertaining. But I'll tell you,
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: the two best teams, I think two of the best three.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: I'm going to still throw my Miami team in there
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: until they prove me wrong. But Alabama and Georgia, oh,
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: my gosh, that was a game.
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: I did watch a lot of that game.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Oh, that was a game.
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: Talk about a lot of scrimmage games.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: Have you ever seen Kalen DeBoer melt down before? Because
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: I haven't. He was always this calm, you know, guy, low-key. Oh,
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: my gosh. He melted down. And I think that non-interference
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: call started him, but that stupid play by his kid
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: on the field punching.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: The guy, that put him over the top.
• 49:23
  Speaker 10: Well.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: Why do these kids do stuff like that?
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: What are we talking about?
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: They're just kids.
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: We started out.
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: Emotions.
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: You got to hand your, if you're a competitor.
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: You have to. And you know what?
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody that runs hotter than Kirby Smart,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: but his team. most of the time plays from snap
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: to whistle, right, within themselves. Now, they play ferociously hard
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, but you don't see
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of that other stuff.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: Now, they don't know how to drive. They need to
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: get Ubers down there. Yes, they do. But on the field,
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: you don't see a lot of that stuff from his team.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: You know, looking ahead, I can't wait. I'm going to
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: have to tape that A & M game or record
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: it because I'm not going to watch it live.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: Which one?
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: A & M and Citadel.
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: Indiana and Ohio State, really. Intriguing.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: Very intriguing.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: In Bloomington.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: Very intriguing game.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: It's going to be rocking.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: It is going to be rocking. Unfortunately, it's 11 a.m.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: This big noon kickoff is killing every TV, you know,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: decent game.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: But it will be rocking. And I think, you know,
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: like you said, how many did they have won in
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: a row?
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: No. 15, 16.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: They're five low.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: They went, what, 15?
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: They went about 20-something, 22 in a row, right?
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: 15 or 16.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: They've got a nice little winning streak going.
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: Yes, they do.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: A nice little winning streak.
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: Coming off a big win, comeback win.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: And like you said, they believe it, right?
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: They're not as good as they were last year, I think.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: They're not.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Because their quarterback's not as good. Yeah, but they believe
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: in themselves.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: They do.
• 51:01
  Speaker 16: Yep.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: And they still have a pretty good coach.
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: Confidence.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Confidence. I love his commercials, by the way. Yeah, his
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: commercials are great. They're fantastic. And they get Ohio State
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: at home.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: And I know.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think Ohio State defensively is as good as
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: they were last year.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Ohio State's a three-and-a-half point favorite, Matt.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, it's a little surprising.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Three-and-a-half seems a lot, which means on the road, what, five.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: Or six seats probably?
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: Because they'll give them a little bit at home. You
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: know what?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I would probably just pick Ohio State, but that's a
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: hard game.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a good one.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a good one, too.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: I probably would.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: I would think that this Indiana coach is smart enough
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: to know where Jeremiah Smith is on the field.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: I bet you he does.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Most of the coaches he's played, they haven't been smart enough.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: But I bet Cignetti's smart enough.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: I bet he figures it out.
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: Cignetti's know that works.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: So you've got, let's see.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Missouri Ole Miss is intriguing to me because you mentioned
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: they've won two big games in a row, right?
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: It's hard to win three in a row.
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: Boy, it really is.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: It really is. And now they're going on the road. Yep.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: And they've been rung out. I mean, so they're going
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: on the road now.
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah. The only thing that helps them actually is their defense,
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: I think, is really good.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: They are.
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: Their defense does travel.
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: They are.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: That defensive end's good. He's like third in the league
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: in sacks.
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: And their linebacker, Rodriguez, he's everywhere.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: I want to see Kentucky and Oklahoma because Oklahoma has
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: a little momentum now, but Kentucky's really starting to gain confidence.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: And so that game's enormous. Oklahoma's offense is just so terrible. Yeah.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: They had one rushing yard in the first half.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I know. They only had about 70 in
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: the whole game. They're just not very good. And their
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: quarterback is terrible.
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: But they went with, like, less than 300 yards.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: 238 yards to be exact.
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: Almost less than 200.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: A lot less than 300 yards.
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: You can't win a lot of games.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: Unless you get 17 points.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: I got a text from a former A & M player.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: I won't mention who, but he texted me at halftime.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: He said, I'm spending, like, $ 45 million on this roster. So, basically,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: we're spending $ 22. 5 million per first down.
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: Good analysis.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: There were two first downs in the first half.
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: Wherever he is, he's in finance now.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the other issue, isn't it, guys? We've
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: talked about this forever. Now these guys are making six
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: and seven figures. It's like, hey, before it was, well,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: we knew they were getting a little money. But before
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: it was just, oh, these college kids, you can't treat
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: them like you do pros.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: You know, you can't.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Be critical for it and now it's like no no
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: no this kid's making four million dollars he needs to play.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah i mean let's be honest marcel making three million dollars.
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah i know and he they're not getting their money's
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: worth no they're not and you know elko said in
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: fact they're not.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Getting their money's worth from the 45 million dollar roster
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: or whatever exactly.
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: Right because i was going to say is elko said
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: they haven't pointed figures because what's going to happen is
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: if you start pointing fingers, Reed's making three million. He goes, hey,
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: these linemen are making quarter of a million and they
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: can't block. You know, it's like, so that's going to.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: The only.
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: NIL's tough.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: There's a few defensive players that are probably making their pay.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: The kicker is the main guy on the team that's
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: really earning his keep.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: You're right, both of them.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Both the punter and the kicker.
• 54:55
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah. If everybody was as good as they were, we
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: wouldn't be having this issue right now. He nailed it
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: on the kicker.
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: He did. He went 72 yards in the end zone.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, if he wasn't in the end zone, he'd
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: have been like 90. The last year and a half,
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: he's been kind of in and out and inconsistent. But
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: this year, he's All-American.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: He looks Shane Leckler-like.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: All-American. Gentlemen, stay out of the cesspool, and we'll try
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: next week.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: We'll be back next week.
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: They do have a game this week, don't they?
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: See?
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but we're not talking about that. See you next week.
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