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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, November 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you know Jack Jack Warris Digital Jaguars Drive Time,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Sex steps that, John Oh says Ashley, Jaguars Drive
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  Speaker 1: Time starts right now. Good morning, Welcome to Wednesday, Jags
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  Speaker 1: Drive Time, brought to you by the Duval Motor Company,
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  Speaker 1: who invite you to discover the Duval Difference for locations
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  Speaker 1: on Atlantic, Bulevard, Cassid Avenue and in Gamesville. Brian, Ashlyn
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  Speaker 1: John here with you as we get sent for the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars and the Steelers on Sunday. Teal out right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when the black and the Gold is showing up, bring
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  Speaker 1: the teal, bring the teal? Alright, baby teal. I think
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  Speaker 1: they wearing teal on, but I'm not supposed to say that,
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  Speaker 1: am I take? I think Jimmy Luck does that. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: tonight he does that. That won't surprise anybody when we
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  Speaker 1: say teal that they'll have a teal top. The color
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  Speaker 1: of pant that they wear will be up for you
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  Speaker 1: to find out when Jimmy Luck shows up on half
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  Speaker 1: the hour this afternoon. Um, did I say hello and welcome? Hello, welcome, welcome.
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  Speaker 1: How are you we're doing us a little different today?
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  Speaker 1: We are we're going social, John, we're social. You know,
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  Speaker 1: why haven't we done this before? Because, honestly, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this show is it's platform. It's primary because social is
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  Speaker 1: people and people are terrible. Now that's a good way
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  Speaker 1: to look at That's why. Okay, so but we'll try it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm willing to go with this is a social platform.
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  Speaker 1: The show is on Twitter, it's on Facebook, it's on YouTube. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and we just we we've never really done this. And
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  Speaker 1: we're sitting around talking the other day. We thought, well,
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  Speaker 1: on a Facebook day where people tend to comment, you
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  Speaker 1: already see how many people are there? Um? I share,
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  Speaker 1: She says, morning Duval, good morning. You know you can
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  Speaker 1: see our show on social pretty yeah, you can watch
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  Speaker 1: yourself talk on your phone. I'm watching the talk, although
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  Speaker 1: it's it's like seven or eight seconds in delay, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing you and then I'm seeing it's anyway. So
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  Speaker 1: the whole point is is you're going to kind of
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  Speaker 1: pay attention to it. Although I will to talk to us,
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  Speaker 1: fans have something to say, right, I'm just gonna jump
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  Speaker 1: in and for example, June West says, good morning, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: good morning June. It's nice to see you. You can't
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  Speaker 1: really see you. I've talked to fans before. This might
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  Speaker 1: not be that fun, but we'll go. It's morning drive
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  Speaker 1: candor for you here on Jags Drive Time. Did I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned it was brought to you by dou Val Motor Company.
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  Speaker 1: I think I have. So here's our Jags Drive Time
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  Speaker 1: poll on Twitter. Reset right, new week Jacks three and
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  Speaker 1: five steers coming in or sorry, three and six, three
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  Speaker 1: and five, which we're thinking. Um, what are your expectations
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of And there are a couple of
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  Speaker 1: choices there for you. Seven consecutive wins, rip them off.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take anything they can get from two and five
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  Speaker 1: to five and two over the final seven. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm already on to the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you have something else? What are your expectations for
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  Speaker 1: the remainder of this season? Um? Malie Jackson apparently yesterday
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  Speaker 1: said hey, the season and over yet, which is exactly
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  Speaker 1: what to Calais Campbell said in the locker room at
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  Speaker 1: Lucas Will Stadium on Sunday. So bring it, folks, Jags
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  Speaker 1: Drive Time pull on Twitter. Let us know where you're
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  Speaker 1: at this morning. You ready for big things? Let's do
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  Speaker 1: it all right? Big thing one is the locker room.
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  Speaker 1: We're going around c i a bank Field and saying
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  Speaker 1: what it's like this week, what it's like in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room. Well, Calais Campbell says, you gotta keep the
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  Speaker 1: guys on the locker room together. It's easier said than
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  Speaker 1: done when you're three and six, but when you're looking
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  Speaker 1: at a guy like that, he's the guy to do it.
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  Speaker 1: So and this is interesting, a little behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: stuff for you. We get to go in the locker
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  Speaker 1: room on Monday, and on Monday to shun Gibson was
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  Speaker 1: the only player that came in and was willing to talk.
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  Speaker 1: There were a couple of guys that they would have
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  Speaker 1: been in He's the only guy who people gathered around
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  Speaker 1: in Fairis. Maybe you say that uh Klaius was in there,
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  Speaker 1: and Lee Jackson was in there, and some other players
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  Speaker 1: were in there who had talked after the game. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to give the impression that fifty two guys,
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  Speaker 1: but let's be honest. There were some guys that picked
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  Speaker 1: their head around the corner and they they find there,
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  Speaker 1: they find right, they find reasons to move on and
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  Speaker 1: go do something else. And and sometimes it's legitimate and
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  Speaker 1: other times it's just I don't want to talk. Um.
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  Speaker 1: If it's that way today, it becomes very difficult for
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  Speaker 1: the media to do their jobs. And obviously the media
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  Speaker 1: is a big part of coverage of the National Football League. UM,
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  Speaker 1: and the reason they're there is because it's kind of glum.
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  Speaker 1: When you've lost five in a row. It doesn't feel
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  Speaker 1: real good and there's not necessarily anything new to say
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  Speaker 1: how to find a way to win a game. We
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  Speaker 1: all know what it is. So when we talk about
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  Speaker 1: keeping the locker room together, when we talk about you know,
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  Speaker 1: the players working and and and bringing some energy to it,
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  Speaker 1: there's a challenge. It's challenge this week for a team.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was good to hear Malik yesterday say hey,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't over yet, because he's one of the energetic
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  Speaker 1: guys in that locker room. Yes, it's what they have
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  Speaker 1: to say it. It's what you want them to be
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  Speaker 1: saying this week. Well, they don't have to say it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they can go yeah, I mean it's just
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  Speaker 1: week to week and see where we're at. I get it, right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's what you want to hear him say. Um, It's
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  Speaker 1: it's realistically, playoffs are not going to happen, but you
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  Speaker 1: certainly want them this week. If you're a player who
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  Speaker 1: has heart, you should be saying, this week, hey, we
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  Speaker 1: can win them all the leeks. The guy who said
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  Speaker 1: they were going to go sixteen and oh, so he
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  Speaker 1: certainly thinks they'd be able to go seven and oh um,
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  Speaker 1: so absolutely you want to see it. Uh, from their perspective,
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  Speaker 1: they have to look at it of you know what,
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  Speaker 1: this is a Steelers team that we've beaten twice last year.
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  Speaker 1: You beat this one and it's the hardest game left
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  Speaker 1: on your schedule, and then maybe you can win six
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  Speaker 1: and rows. So that's how they should be thinking. What.
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  Speaker 1: It will be interesting for them, no doubt. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it will be interesting to see, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: let's these guys come in after some meetings, gonna walk
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  Speaker 1: through today and how the meetings go right? And you
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  Speaker 1: go to work and your boss beach up and you
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  Speaker 1: go back into your office and you're thinking, God hate
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  Speaker 1: when my figuratively figuratively speaking, you watch some tape and
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  Speaker 1: it isn't real pretty and the coaches calling you out
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  Speaker 1: and it's it's easy to see how some guys think.
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  Speaker 1: I just and then you do you get some stupid
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  Speaker 1: questions in the locker rooms someday, right, Um, not pointing
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  Speaker 1: my finger to anyone in particular, but you know you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at me. No, not really, you stupid question, especially
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  Speaker 1: a job. Okay, So, but you get the point. It's
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily the best place to go. But they've got
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  Speaker 1: to bring their own energy into that locker room. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: if they can, expect to have it on the practice
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  Speaker 1: field and throughout the course of the rest of the week.
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  Speaker 1: So if you want to thumb at the heartbeat of
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  Speaker 1: the locker room, I'm on the pulse of the locker room.
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  Speaker 1: However you want to say it. Um, we'll find out
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  Speaker 1: this week. Not worth noting, absolutely agreed. Okay, big thing
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  Speaker 1: too is the practice field. So we heard head coach
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  Speaker 1: dog Marown say on Monday that last week was one
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  Speaker 1: of the best weeks of practices Jaguars team has had
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  Speaker 1: all season. Obviously did not translate to the game field,
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  Speaker 1: and that the key. He said, Sometimes you have great
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  Speaker 1: practices that you don't play a good game and reverse
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  Speaker 1: So it's all about getting the practice and translating it
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  Speaker 1: to Sunday. Yeah. It's interesting because Doug last Friday morning
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  Speaker 1: on coffee with the coach said just that that he
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  Speaker 1: had seen great practices and poor performances, and poor practices
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  Speaker 1: and great performances. It was half and half on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, And so you know, I've never been one
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  Speaker 1: to watch practice, whether it's training camp where we see
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  Speaker 1: the whole practice, or or just the beginning of a practice,
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  Speaker 1: or a Friday morning practice where we see a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more UM and think, I know what this team
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  Speaker 1: is going to do on a Sunday UM, it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to suggest how you might translate better from that field
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  Speaker 1: to that field. I think watching practice at lower levels
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  Speaker 1: of football gives you a really good idea of how
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  Speaker 1: a team might play UM because it or in the
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  Speaker 1: days when I covered say high schools, it wasn't as
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  Speaker 1: complicated a game, so you could see an energy level
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  Speaker 1: and with the running game, you could see it, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to translate there. They're crisp this week
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL, it's so much about as we saw
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday, it's so much about mental assignmentsh It's such
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  Speaker 1: a level of detail that you have a great week
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  Speaker 1: of practice and if you have literally three or four
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  Speaker 1: plays where you have blown assignments. It can change the
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  Speaker 1: entire game. So I'm with you, Brian. It's it's such
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  Speaker 1: a league of matchups that I watched practice. You get
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  Speaker 1: an idea about an energy level, but in no way
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  Speaker 1: does it translate to the game. But I don't just
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  Speaker 1: not you can't tell from right. You can't sit there
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  Speaker 1: and walk off on a Friday and go hey. But
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  Speaker 1: the solution is not to go have a poor week
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  Speaker 1: of practice so that you have a great game, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you still need to go out. All the
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  Speaker 1: emphasis they placed on fundamentals the week of London, all
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  Speaker 1: the emphasis they placed on creating turnovers, all of that
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  Speaker 1: still has to be an effect. You have to go
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  Speaker 1: out and have a great week of practice, especially against Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 1: who brings in. I mean, look, Andrew luck is an
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  Speaker 1: excellent quarterback, but Roethlisberger is coming off a five touchdown performance.
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  Speaker 1: He's coming off of a day in which he looks
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  Speaker 1: as good as he has in a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta be your best after a guy who's ready
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  Speaker 1: to retire fifteen or thirteen months ago. So yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: the great ones, isn't that always the case? The great
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  Speaker 1: ones late in their career. Three or four years ago
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  Speaker 1: Brady everybody said he was done after a lost to
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The great ones have those bad games and
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  Speaker 1: bounce back from and he's a great one going back
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  Speaker 1: to practice. So I think a good judge is the
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  Speaker 1: intensity level. I remember yesterday we were last week, we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about if we were going to see the
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  Speaker 1: same intensity we had seen all season on the field,
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  Speaker 1: and we saw a bunch of intensity, especially after the
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  Speaker 1: finitial stretch. So yes, you can't tell about the mental
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  Speaker 1: aspect of the game in practice, but you can tell
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  Speaker 1: how much this team cares and how hard they're working
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  Speaker 1: practice well out, I think all we can do is ask,
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  Speaker 1: asked some of the players, asked some of the folks
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  Speaker 1: who are out there. You know, there's a coach here there,
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  Speaker 1: how is it today? And you know most of those
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  Speaker 1: guys will tell you, right, Like we had Marcus on
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  Speaker 1: last week who said they had a great week of practice.
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  Speaker 1: If they don't have a great week of practice, coaches
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  Speaker 1: are willing to point that out to it wasn't as
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  Speaker 1: good as it needs to be today, right, So we'll
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  Speaker 1: find out, but we won't find out till Sunday. Alright,
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  Speaker 1: big thing three is Sunday. It's the stadium, so buckle up, folks.
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  Speaker 1: It's not going to be as much of home field
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  Speaker 1: advantage as Jaguars fans would like. We know how Steelers
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  Speaker 1: Nation travels. There'll be a lot of Steelers fans in
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  Speaker 1: the stadium. Yes, it's a home game. Can we put
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  Speaker 1: a ban on using nation after teams? I get so
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  Speaker 1: tired of Stealer nation game? No Nation, how about just
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  Speaker 1: Stealers fans? I like Steelers Nation. Alright, I'm gonna keep
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  Speaker 1: Stealer Nation will be here, Joe Nation, Joe Nation will
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  Speaker 1: be here in the next segment. I like Joe Nation better. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Nation. There should be a Joe Nation there is.
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  Speaker 1: I have a feeling there is. He has a fan. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Nation nation of one? We Hey, look we both
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  Speaker 1: been here. John. When the Steelers roll in and fill
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  Speaker 1: up every seat that you don't sell to your fans,
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  Speaker 1: it's what they do. And as I mentioned the other day,
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  Speaker 1: it's good business for places where they don't sell out
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  Speaker 1: in all three teams in Florida, when the Steelers come
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  Speaker 1: to town, do well, because there are Steelers fans all
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  Speaker 1: over Florida. They buy your tickets. They buy your beers
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  Speaker 1: and your sodas, they buy your hot dogs, paper parking,
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  Speaker 1: they spend money, they fill your hotels and restaurants. They
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  Speaker 1: make an impact. And I'm sure it will happen is
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  Speaker 1: they'll be Steelers fans there. They'll have a presence and
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  Speaker 1: the people say, see, see how bad the Jaguars fans are.
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  Speaker 1: It's a universal I mean, if you watch the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: you've seen Steelers fans do this all over the country
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  Speaker 1: and in many different cities where either the team's routinely
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  Speaker 1: don't sell out or it's the second half of seasons
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  Speaker 1: where fans are selling seats. So I anticipated an element
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  Speaker 1: of that. Um I also antil I also anticipate eight
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  Speaker 1: a large faction of Jaguars fans who buckle against that
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  Speaker 1: if you will, And uh so I expected to be
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  Speaker 1: a fevered pitch as long as the Jaguars play well.
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  Speaker 1: See this was the marquee game on the schedule. It
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  Speaker 1: was that prime time Sunday night football. Steelers will show
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  Speaker 1: you kind of game. And I'm wondering if there's still
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  Speaker 1: that passion for three and six team at a one
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  Speaker 1: o'clock game, right, if there isn't some resignation among Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: nation Nation nation, um zone nation. That is definitely, that
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  Speaker 1: definitely exists. Not a place I ever want to go
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  Speaker 1: to talk about that. Let's not let's put that on
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  Speaker 1: your list. It ain't gonna happen, Baby, it ain't gonna happen. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what the stadium is like. I look,
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  Speaker 1: we saw it an opening day. Green Bay is another
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  Speaker 1: one of those teams that travels and fills your building. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a huge presence, and we anticipated it
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  Speaker 1: that there was going to be ten thou of them. Um,
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  Speaker 1: there's something we're looking for. It's it's much like and
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  Speaker 1: now don't forget the irony of this is at Steelers
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  Speaker 1: games last year. There's a pretty big Jaguars contenency too. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So this works both ways. When you're going well, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have contingency. The Steeler has been going well for
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  Speaker 1: a long, long, long long time. I in hispate Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: fans being like this. Um, if the team goes well early,
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  Speaker 1: they'll be into it. Uh. You'll get a sort of
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  Speaker 1: a last stand type of reaction as long as they
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  Speaker 1: play well. Uh. If they play poorly as they did
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  Speaker 1: for a three game losing stry. I'm not sure they
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  Speaker 1: played that poorly last two weeks, but if they play
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  Speaker 1: poorly then I anticipate it. Um human nature is that
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  Speaker 1: people will say here we go again. Yeah, well, there's
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  Speaker 1: been too much of that. Just don't be surprised when
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  Speaker 1: you see a lot of black and golden the stadium
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  Speaker 1: when the Steelers play. Everywhere in the NFL there is
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  Speaker 1: a contingent of Steelers fans. That's pretty impressive. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: a bit, Hi, Joe. It's getting harder and harder to Wednesday, Welcome,
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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Good morning. Uh. It's getting harder to do
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  Speaker 1: these things, you know, because of the record, but we
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  Speaker 1: endeavored to persevere. Johnny Hanson a bunch of emails every day, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: whoa is Joe? Whoa is Joe? Whoa was Joe? And
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  Speaker 1: apparently Whoe was? Oh whoa? Whoa? Whoa? Anyway, with that
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  Speaker 1: in mind, we're gonna butcher twenty one pilots. Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know this song. Ah God. I wish I had
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  Speaker 1: the chance to take us to a better place, to
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  Speaker 1: bring us back to when we were playing in your face.
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  Speaker 1: We had the swagger and the confidence in all the trust,
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  Speaker 1: and now there's a dagger in our season and it's
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  Speaker 1: I could find the geney. Maybe then I won't be
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  Speaker 1: throwing things at my naving this space. The wise struggle
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  Speaker 1: to win got at the place considering where we have been,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: wish we could made friend time for the Steelers game.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: But we're brands six, and now that means that we
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  Speaker 1: then lexed out. I wish we could turn back time
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Front seven seen when the Sailers had no chance to win,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: But now we're flexed out. Jordan, Sweet, that's it one verse.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know the song, don't I about that? Right? Okay? Ye?
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  Speaker 1: Did it work? Yeah, it's good? Alright, that's a hit man, Joe, allright,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: we do know this about him. Yeah. So there's new
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: people in your nation, hip people. Yep. Yeah, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: see you later in the show than you with a
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  Speaker 1: new segment that did you see this? Cool? Right? Okay?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: So can you play the other music for the other nation?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Here it comes? I can do that anything. Yeah, I know.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: That's great, and we're over here. I do do that
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  Speaker 1: all day. Act. That's it's a good life. I'm doing
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: my best life, Ryan, are you? Which is unfortunately? All right?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Brian from Round of Rock. Why is
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: this defense so mentally weak? Don't we have leaders in
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the locker room on that side of the ball. It
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: seems like they checked out and are above playing for
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: this team. Pathetic? Yeah, um, this has been a constant
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: theme all week, and I think often people perceive teams
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: that are struggling as having checked out, uh and not trying.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: And my experience, and asked Josh Scoby about this yesterday,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: is that NFL teams typically don't check out, and it's
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: not that they're not trying. It's more in the second
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: half of seasons that start going poorly, it's players either
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: try to do too much or they in crucial situations
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: make plays outside the defense that is called. They don't
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: stop trying, but they sometimes stop playing within the team
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: concept as much as you do when you were in contention.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the challenge for the A Wars
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: at this point in the last seven games. And I'm
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: not saying it's specifically the Jaguars. I've seen it on
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: basically every team I've ever been around, that things haven't
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: gone well, it happened. So I think that's the challenge
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: for anything. When people see losing regaze, oh oh they're
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: not fighting now, there's no heart. My experience, Brind's that's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: usually not what it is. It's just things go awry
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and they don't want him to go well. He started
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: interpreting things right, so and then I say this all
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the time. I'm a big body language guy. Look to
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: see how guys are and there were some slum shoulders
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: in the first half. Now on the sidelines and on
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the field, when they gave up four touchdowns in five
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: first half possessions for the Colds, I wondered if this
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: had not come unwound on the defensive side. They got
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: it back. The offense helped with the long drive to
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: start the third quarter. And guys, because I asked a
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: couple of asked. Todd wash got on the plane, did
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you do anything schematically different? Did you change anything? And
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: he said no, guys played better in the second half.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: So to me, now that's a good sign, right, especially
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: against Ben Roethlisberger and started playing in the defense focus.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: That's the key. These guys have to play the defense.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I think you know, based on uh log him in
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the film study and what you know people we've talked to,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. I mean, Shaun Gibson said as
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: much on Monday. The guys were going off trying to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: make plays and when it worked for for Jalen in London, right,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: he saw what Barry Church did and he went to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the end zone and made a play that very few
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's the only defensive back in football. Maybe Patrick
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Peterson can make the play that he made it wimbley
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that day. But you can't do that, I mean you can't.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Just you can't build Sunday to our Jalen. You do
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: whatever you want and make great plays, but every you can't.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: You can't scheme it that way. Um, when guys are
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: doing that, as you just mentioned, it looks as if
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: guys have just totally lost it and come Unwell in
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the second at the running game, Um, when you're not
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: stopping the run, it looks like you quit. Yeah. Sometimes
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: you're just not stopping the run, and things can be
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: interpreted as they're not give an effort. Well, it's it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: usually just not things are going bad well, and you're
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: frustrated with the team. And similar to if you can't
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: stop the run, it looks like you've quit. When guys
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: are running is open as they were and they were,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I mean Jack Doylety Hilton Ebron, that looks like quit, ye, right,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: But as we found out in the second half, it wasn't.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So there's confusion. In the first half, it looked bad,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: all right, let's go. Please hold them. Scroll up to Gainesville,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: good old Gainesville. Big Oh. I know that tanking for
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: draft positions is by no means a sure thing proposition,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: but in a year where all hope is gone, it's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a um. The gist is, Brian, why not tank? Um?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: It's a question that I got a lot from two
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: thousand and eleven to two Remember familiar with this, Remember
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the suck for Luck campaign and Inapolis um and eleven
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: they and the reality it doesn't happen. Uh. And I'm
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: not saying no team has ever done in the NFL,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: but it's very rare, mainly for the reason that coaches
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: and players aren't tuned into that. So unless a front office,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: which would theoretically have the motivation to do that, comes
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: in and tells guys, you must pull players out of
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the game or you must do this coaches who want
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you know, a coach is never gonna stand in front
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: of the team and say, hey, hey, we're playing for
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: a draft pick this week, because those players don't care well,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and the coach is gonna want to losing a job
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: because all of a sudden that's on your record. So
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: it's it's fine to talk about I understand the instinct.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: There's also a logical reason why you don't do it
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Um it's not like the NBA, where
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: one player typically can be target and say, boy, you
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: are much much better with this guy at the top
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: of the NBA draft than you are in the in
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the number eight because it does happen in the NBA
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: in the NFL unless there's a rare situation, and luck
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: was one, but usually in the NFL, moving up three
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: spots is usually not a franchise defining move. In the NFL,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: it can be, but it's not obvious before the draft,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: so there's usually not the incentive to do it, although
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: fans believe there is. Well, you know, and we we
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: we had this conversation a lot back then, and my
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: point was, and it's coming again, right, okay, So if
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that's the case, don't worry about it. Go play, right,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, players and coach is gonna go play because
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the tape tells the story. They're not worried about who's
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: coming in. They can't. They don't even know if they're
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: gonna be here. Oh yeah, there's some guys, you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be here. They're young, their salary cap all
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of that nonsense. But they don't. They can't look at
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: a kid in college, you but what we need him?
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: So let's lose. It makes no sense at all, but
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: his fans in December, if you're not in it, don't
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: worry about it, right, I mean, because the upshot of
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: not being good enough to win is that you have
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: a chance to get players now you you can screw
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: it up. You can take the wrong player, right. So
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: there's no guarantee there either or is there a guarantee
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: right now that there's a player sitting there that you want.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: There's just not God play. Let the coaches play. It's
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: camp be an organization. We're gonna suck for luck, right, Um,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it'll be a conversation. It is just no deep down
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that it's it's not gonna my thing is in December.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: If you're not in it and they're not winning, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: just don't worry about right, and just don't worry about it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: We just have to worry about it. Have plenty of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: time to worry about absolutely, plenty of time. I saw
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a comment the other day that said this Jaguars teams
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: has to lose so they can get Will Greer at quarterback.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling the locker rooms not saying looking forward to
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Will Grew. Any of them are going, Who's will right exactly?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Because they just don't find I mean college football. They
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: followed their school. That's about it. Let all of them
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: do that. Let's go to good old Jeff. Looks like
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: all of those tough contract decisions that we're going to
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: be made at the end of the sea this season
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: may not be so tough after all. Yes, the reality
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's it's a little bit why again.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You understand why there's questions, and you understand why people
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: look way ahead and I worry about things. I'm one
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of life's great warriors ashally, so I understand warrior um.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: But for the most part, in the NFL, decisions like
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: what they're talking about, the season wind up taking care
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of themselves. I wrote a million times last spring. You
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: don't know between Malik Calais, marcel A, Buried Church just
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, all those names you're throwing out, Um, you
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: don't know if by the end of the two thousand
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: eighteen season you're gonna want all those guys back. You
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: don't know within those scopes how each guy is going
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to play, whether whether they're going to deserve to come back.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Most NFL careers have a prime of what six or
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: seven years, so one year can make a dramatic difference
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: in a guy's perception, his health, et cetera. Uh so
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you thought it would probably play out, and uh, it
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: feels like it's it's doing. I looked at this from
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the standpoint of young guys who haven't gotten paid yet,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: so very much. If Jalen Ramsey comes out and has
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: another All Pro season in you still have his fourth
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: year in his fifth year option right top ten picksure
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: of the fifth year option and rookie contracts are designed
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: to help your cap because they played a fixed lower number.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: But if Jalen Ramsey has in all Pro season, you're
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: probably thinking, how do we take care of him in
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen to make sure that he's a pillar getting
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: ahead of the curve, you know, incentivize him to be
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: here for as much as possible during the off season.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: How do we make him happy because we don't want
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: him next year being unhappy if you can be unhappy
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: playing for seven million, but if you could be making
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: twenty right, Okay, he's not having an All Pro year,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: you don't have to make that decision. At least in November.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: You don't have to make that decision now. Same thing
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: with Unique and Gonqua. If he has twenty sacks, you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: probably don't let him go into the fourth year of
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: his contract. Although again the structure of the contract is
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: designed that it helps your cap It's to your advantage
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to make these guys play out their rookie contracts because
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: it gives you flexibility with guys like Calais, Malik d
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Marcel Darius, all of those guys. All of a sudden,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: now you're not thinking, well, I gotta pay Jalen, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: now I gotta pay Unique, and Miles is coming up
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: into that situation too. You've got another year, and I
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: think the linebackers, Brian make a a an excellent case
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: into why you let it play out? Meaning you thought
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: for sure you had to pay Miles Jack before this
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: offseason without it doubt, I'm not sure. I'm not sure
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: you know for sure. I'm not saying the book is written,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: but it's not right now. Oh my goodness, what are
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: we gonna do if we don't do this. It's now okay,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: let's figure this out. Same thing with Telvin Smith. You
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: thought for sure he was long term, had to have
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: him back. Now you're looking, is this a guy we're
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: building around long terms not having a great year. He's
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: not the only one on defense, But many of these
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: defensive players. I don't mean to just single out tell them,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: but those two players are example poles of it. Um.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Now you're looking at these last seven games of Okay,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: what out of this group? How are we going to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: structure this moving forward? What moves do we have to make? Now,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: here's one caveat to that, and that is there's seven
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: games left. Jalen could have an interception in every game.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: He could score three touchdowns. He could still get to
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the cusp of all Pro. Although you're not the all Pro.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Thing goes they look at your whole season. Um, and
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: he's maybe a guy you lock up anyway. I gets
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: he's an all pro talent. I get it, even if
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: he's not having an all Pro season. It's just you
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: have a little bit more leverage that that's a contract negotiation.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: That's Dave Coldwell sitting with the agent making that happen. Um,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Miles uh Unique could go off and have a sack
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: in every game and have to two sack games and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and be that fourteen fifteen sack guy back to back years,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and you go, okay, we gotta take care of this now,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: right because we lose leverage and we've got a deal
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: right here. Um, those things could still happen. It could
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: still play out over the final seven games. But if
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: you're looking at big picture, yeah, the guy from Atlantic Beaches,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Jeff from It is exactly right. You still there is
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a positive to it in terms of your salary. And
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: that's it. He was looking at it that positively than
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: he was. It's how I look. Yeah, yeah, he justly
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: was Okay, all right, all right, we'll take a break.
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  Speaker 1: top tweets. All right, let's start it off with cold
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  Speaker 1: stock com. I'm sure we all seen this, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a prime example what the Jaguars defense was dealing with
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: on Sunday. First of all, Quentin Nelson's really good. It's
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: scary every time. By the way, did I did I
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: read correctly that the folks who in the social media
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: department in Indianapolis they added the yelling. I think Quentin
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Nelson said, so, yeah, he's a great players. When you
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  Speaker 1: notice a rookie left guard and you don't see that
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: very often, uh, that really disappoints me. I thought this
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: whole time that was him, and it made it Apparently
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: not apparently not, but behavior I was gonna say that. Now,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: that's the difference between journalism and the Internet, and that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: is is that in the Internet you can do stuff
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: like that because it's entertainment. Right yet com used to
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: be really really really good, really really good. But yeah,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: but like last year or the year before, I mean
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: it was but yeah, all right, all right, let's go
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: to Field Gates, who's predicting the NFL draft order. Then
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: you see it, Jaguars at nine, three and six, right now,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: see the Raiders getting the first pick at the moment,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: one in eight, Buccaneers tenth. Not where you want to
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: be at the moment. No, No, that's how it be.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: How it be not much seven games? All right. Let's
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: go to Austin Safarian jenkins Instagram story from yesterday. He says,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: week fifteen, I'm back boys. I wonder whether that's him
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: telling them I'm ready to come back, or that's them
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: saying to him, get ready. He's gonna be because he
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: could return to practice next week. Uh, and then could
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: play in week fifteen. I mean, I hope that because
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: he's a guy for whom training up and the preseason
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: was really productive and we thought we'd see a whole
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: lot of Austin Sufurian Jenkins, and even absolutely though you
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: see a whole lot, there was a lot built into
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the offense around him, and even I think we've talked
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: about it, Brian, I don't think he was going to
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: have a thousand yards receiving, but you could have seen
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: eight or nine touchdowns though the end, even if he
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: hadn't gotten those data. Nine touchdowns, the presence of him,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the threat of that player in that position, the ability
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: to have a guy who could both run, block and
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: pass catch at the tight end position. Um, you could
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: argue that they should have had a second option there
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: behind him, but you can't argue that the loss of him,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: it's uh, maybe as big a loss as they had
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: in the first half the season. Hindsight, I think I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: would have brought Mercedes back, But we do see a
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: sim working off to the side last week, working to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: get back. My guess is that tweet is he's now
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: what that's four weeks away, so he's four weeks out.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: My guess is he's hearing from his medical people, Yeah
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: it's going to be that, and that he's feeling good
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: about that. So good for him now, the Jaguars still
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: get to decide ultimately, and maybe they've said to him, Hey,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're ready, we want you back. We
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: can find out you think so they can bring two back. Right,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: all right? Are we ready boys for the hard hitting questions?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Oh it's time for actually asks? Yes, time Bryan calls it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Why did the number one CBS crew choose to cover
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Steelers. You have Jim Nance, Tony Romo,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Tracy Wilson all come into town. We saw him against
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, against the Cowboys, against the Chiefs, Jaguars three
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: six record. If they still choosed to come cover this
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: game in Jacksonville, all right, I always have the funny
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to say, but it's because the Steelers. I mean they're
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: it's a one o'clock game. Uh, the Steers are good,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: they draw fans. Um, that's it. I mean, it's uh,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: what has nothing to do with the Jaguars, Well, certainly not.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I mean at this point, as on a knock on
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, it wouldn't have It wouldn't have anything to
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: do with any three and six team outside of a
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: major market Dallas, New York type team. I mean, it's
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: here Chris the Steeler, do you know what these are?
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Here's a lesson. That's the that's that's my rendition of
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the Steelers logo. Right. Those are the hyper cycloids, right.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: The red one is fire, the blue one is water,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and the yellow one is represents iron ore, which are
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the compile units of making steel. That is the Steeler's logo.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: That is the genesis of the Steeler's logo. Vic would
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: be proud by the way that I always listened when
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: he would tell me that, Um, yeah, Steelers, what is
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: going hyper I really am as dumb as I thought,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: or I'm smarter than you thought. That's true, Joe, you
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: have something to say. I've got the real answer. They
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: want to golf. That's right, they're here. They're probably here already.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Tony said, oh yeah, let's let's just go golf, shall we.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I just I never went when Vick used to draw
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: that up. I always just listening to, yeah, yeah, yeah, Vick.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I never thought I actually get to explain it to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: someone else, And I just thank goodness you did. Coming
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: out there. Steelers fan is going to see that and
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: go up. That's a great drawing. Let's go to Ashlan
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: ask number two what is the atmosphere going to be
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: like on Sunday talked about it briefly. We think a
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: lot of Steelers fans are going to show up. Steeler Nation,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Bryant fun, fun, It's the NFL. It's the Jaguars and Steelers.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: They were the defining games for this franchise in the
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: early days, and as you and I talked about yesterday,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: some of the moments, the biggest moments for the Jaguars
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: have been against the Steelers. Hey, folks, there's only sixteen
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and I forget who's on a bye week. So if
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: not sixteen this week, only sixteen places on the planet
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that NFL football takes place on a given weekend, and
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: this is one of them. It's gonna be a beautiful day, right,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: sixty eight degrees and sunny. It's gonna be fun. Come
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: on down. Yeah, they're gonna be wearing teal tops. I
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: won't tell you the color of the pan. You'll find
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: that out this afternoon on Happy Hour. Done. Yes, I'm
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be hopeful. And when I say that, I don't
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: mean that the Jaguars fans are hopeful that the team
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: is going to make the playoffs. But I think for
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: me Jaguars fans perspective, it'll be hopeful early and so
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: of a wait and see, let's see if they hang
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: with him. I think if if they hang with him,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: if it's tight, I think Jaguars fans will come up
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: hoping for a glimpse of what they saw last year
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and hoping for one Sunday where they can feel good
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: about it. So uh yeah, fun all that great? Um,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: But I do think that if this team plays well,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: it could get the fans behind it and have that memorable,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: hopeful pipe day day. That's all we want, And like
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the more opportunities to use the word pipe on this show,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the better. Please win on Sunday so we can all
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: be pipe next week. Who nude? Just a little mistake
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: from Shellnn would turn into something so great? Don't we
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: all agree? Oh? Great? The last Ashlyn asked, looking at
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season, who can turn the surround? Now?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Obviously not just one person, anyone else here the Mary
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Tyler Moore song in their head right now? Who can
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: turn the world on with their smile? Sure we can
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: think of it that way. Who's going to turn this around?
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Obviously it can't be one person, But who can play
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: better in the second half of the season to help
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: turn it around. It could be anyone coach, player, John
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: John I'm going I'm gonna say wide receivers just because
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: i don't want to say the running backs because I've
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: harped on the running backs for weeks and weeks and weeks.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: The wide receivers certainly, Um if if they could one
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: play a game. I'm not saying an eight yard pass
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: like mon increase, but one or two plays a game,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: give them that spark Ah, that would help immensely. I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: think that's really been the Achilles He'll if you will
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: have the offense so far so they and then anticipating
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: because they haven't shown it, but that could really help
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: everything and help the running game that we've all been
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: talking about. I'll go with Jalen Um. When he made
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: that interception in London, the whole sideline erupted. He came
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: to the sideline, he had energy right and that got
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: and we we saw the way that he didn't turn
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: into a win, but we saw the way that the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Jaguars playing they responded. It maintain the momentum for you
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: bet extended period and it helped. He's maybe the best
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: player on this team. He's I think he's the best
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: player on the defense for certain. Um. On Sunday, as
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: things were going bad, his body language on the sideline
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: was it was negative. His shoulders were slumped, he shaking
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: his head, He was not he was not himself on
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: So I think he would agree with that. UM. I
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: think if Jalen Ramsey brings his best game, the defense
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: is lifted by knowing that their best player is having
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: his best game. So I would say Jalen has the
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: greatest potential to lift this team. He's good. And here's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: the thing Brian I was talking about Jalen. I'm not
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: sure if this fits your point or not, but I
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: think if you watched this show and listen to us
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: all a week, there's been a lot of talk about
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: how John didn't play well Sunday, UM, I think that's fair,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and you know what, not everybody has a great day
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: every day and in life, you mature, you grow. Most
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I haven't, but most people mature and grow. Um, you
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: don't have your best day every day. It doesn't mean
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: that the guy is not a great player, and it
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that he can't be an All Pro guy
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: this year. It doesn't mean he can't you know, doesn't
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: mean he's not critically important for this defense. Um, so
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: it's okay to have a bad day. You know, he's
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: not perfect. Let's see where it goes from here. I
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: think that will tell his story. All right, fashion, one
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: more break, We've got a new segment for you called
• 43:51
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• 43:54
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  Speaker 1: How about a look at our Jacks Drive Time pull
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: on Twitter. See right there, folks, aren't thinking fun. They're
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: thinking of the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, which is
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: why they should come to the game on Sunday and
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: have fun and think about the two thousand eighteen season
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit more, even though it is in prime time,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: even though the Jaguars have lost five in a row. Well,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: fun wasn't an option on that one. I just you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I I said that I thought the atmosphere on Sunday
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: was fun. So come, you know, com immerse yourself in
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: the fun and see if maybe that doesn't change the
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: way that you look at I do. I'm a little
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: surpriser saying seven consecutive wins. That's I didn't know that
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: anybody would would would rise to that. Oh, that would
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: be fun. We've seen it before. I would watch it too.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: We will watch it regardless woments. All right, how about
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: the all important power rankings? Starting with John? These are
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: strikingly similar, by the way, striking strikingly similar. Roll the graphic.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Here you go, John, I'm not sure mind changed in
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: the top five, six or seven. This week. We have
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: a we have a mic issue all of a sudden
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: with you here, John, We're going to share. Uh, So
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: go ahead and use Ashland's Mike there Ja okay uh Ashland,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: your power rankings, Yes, are strikingly similar, except I have
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars at because you look at the team below them,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I think they're in the very similar boat with the Jaguars,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and because the number twenty three is significant in this
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: segment of our respondents to the Jags Drive Time Pull
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: on Twitter say that they're expecting seven straight wins. I
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: put the Jaguars at twenty three. That was as I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: did this yesterday. Which one are you guys unplugged my mike?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: By the way, was that you sex? Brian crawled under
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the desk? Break better? We were tired of hearing you
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: all right now look, just for fun, we started a
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: new stegment because we spend a lot of our day
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: preparing for the show, and we're very hard work well,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: but we see a lot of stuff on the internet,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: right There's all kinds of stories. You have your websites
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and Twitter feeds and Instagram stories that you follow. So
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: do we. So we've got a new segment called did
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: you see this? Because we might have something that you
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: haven't seen. This, by the way, is another shameless, even
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: gratuitous chance to get Joe Fortunato involved in our show.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: We need because we just on Wednesdays, We just we
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: need more of that smile. So why don't you lead
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: us off with the did you see this? Because I'm
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: guessing that there's no chance that we have seen what
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: you have seen. All right. You know there's there's a
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: a stat out there that says the Jaguars have a
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: hard time winning when they don't score first. They have
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: to come out there and just punched the opponent right
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: in the mouth. Just come out and make a strong
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: first statement. All right, This video is probably what should happen.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: This is a cat, okay, going after a rat. Now
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: watch the first move of the rat, because it's it's critical.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Cat goes out, stops though, checking it out. Now you
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: see against the wall, there's an about Watch the rat
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: bang jumps, jumps right into cat's face. Now it doesn't
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: get any better for this cat. Okay, that one move,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: that one jump in its face took a perfectly good
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: cat and rendered it useless. I thought when you ran
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: it across the street, the cat was going to get
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: run over. And and you know, yeah, and you know
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: that that this cat's friends and family they're all on
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: social media. They're running this video over and over again
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: for this poor cat, and it's just you know, the
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: cat's wife is probably sitting at home wondering, Robert, I'm
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: married a pussy cat. Yeah, you're embarrassing me. This is
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: this is awful, Joe, we set you up for that.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: That was beautiful. I had not seen that. But that
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: is exactly first move, make the first move. That is
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: exactly what did you see? This is all about? All right?
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: John Well? I had something playing about an obscure Florida
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: writer and myself. He's had a bad couple of NFL thirds.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I mean backup of Tuesdays. Long story short. I come
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: home in October or I wake up out in October
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and my wife, Sherry, is that telling me the garage
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: door it doesn't open. Well, A few hun dollars later,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I had basically new parts for the garage door. That'st
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: for it. It's awesome. Tuesday morning I replaced my water heater.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Your water right? Is that in the garage? Say this
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: is a month later. Uh, that's the news flash. When
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: you come home on Brian on a Monday night and
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: there's a stream out of your garage when you google that,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: it doesn't come up with a list of cheap, easy fixes.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: So you know how I like to spend money. So
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: upwards of a thousand later, I've got these two problems off,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: and so I've had a bad week. You could have
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: your water heater in your attic like some people in Florida. Yeah,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: it would be a bigger problem for you with a
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: stream of water coming through the drywall. I talked to
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: my guy and my guys the guy who would placed
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the water heater, and I said, the situations where water
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: heaters are inside, because I spent Tuesday night basically, or
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Monday to Tuesday stopping up water in the garage. Um,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, you know there's times where they're
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the you can't imagine. Anyway, great
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: day for me, but I was distracted this morning by
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: a story that I didn't really have time to get.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: UM Max the pictures on you find it on your phone.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: These things are awesome. UM. Former NFL player Charlie Rodgers
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: arrested in New Jersey. What about the former Michigan state
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: wide receiver who was drafted by the Alliance. You can't
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: tell that from the story yet. He's forty two. What's
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: notable arrested for wielding a sword and making terrorist threats
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: at a youth basketball event. Now that I did not say. Well,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: first of all, wielding it's a great word. Brandishing was
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: another word used. I don't think people brandishing wheel things
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: enough anymore. I think that should be something we bring back.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: But we brandish and wheeld this guy. The terrorist threats
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: aside might be a visionary yea swords. You don't see
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: enough people wearing stories anymore or capes. Definitely really, I mean,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I hope nobody got hurt. Otherwise I'm in Charlie Rogers.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I understand it's cold up in Jersey now, but how
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: even with a coat, how do you get into a
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: youth basketball tournament with a sword. There's way I would
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: think that'd be alarming walking up to that John, I
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: expect to see. You don't see this day and age
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Brian that much sword play. So and I'll be honest,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: this is one off follow I don't want to see
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: too much sword play unless it's at a fencing studio.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Ashland say, is this a trend? God? I hope not.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: What have you got for us? Oh? Just breaking news?
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: On a casual Wednesday morning, Chick fil A announces nationwide
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: delivery service. We can have Chick Fila delivered to Jaguar's
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: drive time every morning now without the swords. Okay, and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: so are you saying this? Are you saying tomorrow morning?
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I am in support. This is great news. It's a
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: great day in the neighborhood. Waffle Fries coming to the
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: stadium at breakfast, no doubt every day. Okay, Ashlyn is happy.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Pipe that makes me pipe? I did? I did not
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: see that. So we've had three great segments here. I'm
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna take it to a more newsworthy sort
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: of serious note. Did you see this? So Alan Pierce
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: manages the I see you at Adventist Hospital in Paradise, California,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: where the camp fire has become the deadliest fire in
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: American history. So he helped with the evacuation of patients
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: last Thursday as the fire swept in, and then he
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: hopped in his truck and headed for safety. That's his
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: truck before he before he got started. Um, the fires
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: you know, was intense, and it was dangerous and it
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: was ultimately impassable. Now this next photo shows what it
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: looked like out his window right as he is trying
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: to get through. Right, pretty intense. The videos if you
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: haven't seen them, it's really he put on in Your
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Eyes by Peter Gabriel right a song We hope that
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: you don't have to Nick Joe Um to calm himself.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Set recorded a message on his phone for his family
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: just in case it didn't work out, because at that
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: point you think I'm not getting through. At that point
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: he's blocked. Right behind him is a car that's caught fire.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: In front of him, our trees. A bulldozer apparently came
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere and cleared a path for him to
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: turn around and go back to the hospital, where he
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  Speaker 1: found a lot of his Paradise neighbors and friends who
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  Speaker 1: were looking for medical help. So they evacuated the hospital's
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  Speaker 1: medical supplies because the hospital was on fire. They went
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  Speaker 1: out to the helipad where the helicopter was, and they
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  Speaker 1: trioshed an emergency room so that they could help everyone
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  Speaker 1: who was injured until help arrived to help get them
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  Speaker 1: all out of there. Um. I heard this morning that
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Toyota is giving Alan Pierce a brand new truck. That
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: truck the lights were melted, the the you know, the
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  Speaker 1: tail lights were melted, the truck was burned. The mirrors,
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  Speaker 1: the rearview mirror, not the review, and the side mirrors
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  Speaker 1: were melted as well. Heroic effort. And he's not the
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  Speaker 1: only one. There are a lot of men and women,
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  Speaker 1: both first responders and just average everyday people who, because
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  Speaker 1: of the circumstances, are living a heroic life right now
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  Speaker 1: in helping their neighbor. You here all the time, love
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  Speaker 1: your neighbor. Well, there's a lot of damage, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of suffering going on right now, but when you
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  Speaker 1: see that, there's a lot of love out there as well.
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  Speaker 1: So um good an Alan Pierce, the way that you
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  Speaker 1: handled that so hopefully, Yeah, fantastic. So did you see
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  Speaker 1: This is a new weekly segment that we'll do right
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  Speaker 1: here on Jags. I feel kind of silly complaining about
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the water heater right now. That wasn't my purpose because
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: we didn't do it. But can I say something about Facebook? Yeah?
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: It one today Romilo David said football so bad? They're
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: talking about chicken on the show. Yeah it's pretty good.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good chicken. Okay, all right, that'll do it
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  Speaker 1: for the show. So thanks to these guys here and
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  Speaker 1: those guys on the other side of the camera, Jags
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Drive Time returns tomorrow. By the way, we told you
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: teal tops right, it's Teal week. Um. You'll find out
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: the color pants the dragon Wars we're wearing on a
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: happy hour this afternoon when Jimmy Luck makes his weekly
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: guest appearance on the program. Anything else to say, see
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