Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Mega Edition: The Police Report That First Targeted Epstein's Deviant Behavior (Part 4-6) (5/2/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04In this episode, we're going to continue taking a look
- 0:06at that Palm Beach police report from the original Epstein arrest,
- 0:12and to do that, we're picking back up with the
- 0:14narrative of Joseph Riccari. Copies of the tapes that were
- 0:18submitted into evidence were requested. Additionally, trash pulls were started.
- 0:22On September twenty first, two thousand and five, Sergeant Sizarski
- 0:26made telephone contact with Tony Higgins, supervisor of the Sanitation department,
- 0:31and requested that trash be collected at the Epstein house
- 0:34located at three fifty eight Elbrio in Palm Beach. Sergeant
- 0:38Sizarski met with sanitation worker Jeff Williams and observed him
- 0:42enter this property at three fifty eight Lbrio. Shortly thereafter,
- 0:46Williams exited the property and placed the three white trash
- 0:50bags in the empty well in the rear of the truck.
- 0:53Williams then drove away, where he met with Sergeant Czarski,
- 0:57who removed the bags from the well and placed them
- 0:59into so one large black trash bag. The bag was
- 1:02returned to the police station, where I was waiting for him.
- 1:06Upon his arrival, we inspected the bags where several notes
- 1:10and papers were found. These notes contained names of girls
- 1:13with times and Additionally, there was a note from redacted
- 1:17and redacted to Jeffrey Epstein on a notepad which stated
- 1:21for a good time call redacted and redacted at redacted. Also,
- 1:26there was another telephone number on the note redacted. Also
- 1:30found was a written note which stated redacted cannot come
- 1:33at seven pm tomorrow because of soccer. These items were
- 1:37written on notepads that contain Jeffrey Epstein on the bottom
- 1:41of the notes. These items were placed into evidence for
- 1:45a future follow up. I requested subpoenas for subscriber information
- 1:49on the telephone numbers listed above on the note from
- 1:52redacted and redacted. The cellular telephone redacted and redacted are
- 1:56both assigned to Singular Cellular Service were found within the
- 2:01trash on Jeffrey Epstein's pad. Papers that contained telephone numbers.
- 2:06One note had redacted with redacted service. Another sheet had
- 2:09written redacted which is assigned to Bell South Telecommunications. The
- 2:14subpoenas were picked up and submitted to Singular and Bell
- 2:18South Telecommunications for a subscriber information. On September twenty second,
- 2:23two thousand and five, I was informed by Sergeant s'zarski
- 2:26that there would be no trash pickup as it was
- 2:29recycled pickup day. A request for copies of the micro
- 2:33and standard sized cassettes were requested from crime scene to
- 2:37familiarize myself with the interviews conducted. On September twenty third,
- 2:41two thousand and five, the tapes were received and I
- 2:44began to become familiar with the interviews that were conducted.
- 2:48Detective Krawl had met with Tom of pom Beach sanitation
- 2:51worker Jeff Williams and observed him enter the property of
- 2:55three point fifty eight Elbrio. Shortly thereafter, Williams exited the
- 2:59property and placed the three white trash bags in the
- 3:02empty well in the rear of the truck. Williams then
- 3:05drove away, where he met with Detective Crawl, who removed
- 3:08the bags from the well and placed them into one
- 3:10large black trash bag. The bag was returned to the
- 3:13police station where I was waiting for him. Upon his arrival,
- 3:17we inspected the bags where several notes and papers were found.
- 3:20The notes will be inspected for future use. The items
- 3:23collected were placed into evidence. It became evident that some
- 3:27of the recordings were recorded with background noise and some interference.
- 3:32The calls most affected were the control phone calls from
- 3:35the victim to the suspect, Hayley Robson. I obtained the
- 3:38graphic equalizer and discovered that the calls are able to
- 3:42be legible with the use of the equalizer by lowering
- 3:46the background noise and increasing voice gain. I also learned
- 3:50that a tape was broken during the copying of the tape.
- 3:54I returned the copy of the tape marked property number
- 3:57zero five DASH two four to three to have it
- 4:00copied to have an original in evidence and a working
- 4:03copy with the file. Upon researching the file, it was
- 4:07discovered that the suspect Hailey Robson's cellular calls were subpoenaed incorrectly.
- 4:12The suspect's telephone number was redacted and the original request
- 4:16was for redacted. I requested the information through Singular cellular
- 4:20service from February two thousand and five through the present.
- 4:24The purpose was to have a record of Robson making
- 4:28calls to the victim, Jeffrey Epstein and the frequency of
- 4:31the calls. The request was submitted to the State Attorney's office.
- 4:35The investigation continues. The next narrative is from Curtis Krowell,
- 4:41who's one of the other detectives Honor. About September twenty third,
- 4:45two thousand and five, at approximately oh nine to fifteen hours,
- 4:49I responded to three point fifty eight Lbrio and met
- 4:52with pebe sanitation worker jeff Williams. Williams had been previously
- 4:56notified to assist in trash pulls at the residence of JEFFREYE.
- 5:00Epstein three fifty eight Lbrio, Palm Beach, Florida. I observe
- 5:04Williams entered the driveway up three fifty eight Lbrio and
- 5:07removed several plastic bags of trash and placed the contents
- 5:11into the back of an empty sanitation truck. I then
- 5:14followed Williams to the predetermined location and seized the trash
- 5:18from the truck. The trash was transported to the Palm
- 5:21Beach Police Department, where I began sifting through its contents.
- 5:25There was a total of four white in color plastic bags,
- 5:29and each contained documentation and correspondence from three fifty eight
- 5:33Lbrio and Jeffrey Epstein. All documents of evidentiary value were
- 5:37removed and turned over to Detective Roccari for follow up.
- 5:42On or about September twenty six, two thousand and five,
- 5:46at approximately oh nine hundred hours, I responded to three
- 5:49fifty eight Lbrio and met with PB sanitation worker Jesse Jones.
- 5:53Jones had previously been notified to assist in trash pulls
- 5:57at the residence of Jeffrey Epstein t eight Elbrio, pom Beach, Florida.
- 6:02I observed Jones enter the driveway up three fifty eight Lbrio,
- 6:06where no trash was located within the receptacles. I left
- 6:10the area without incident and notified Detective Raccari to that effect.
- 6:14On or about September twenty seventh, two thousand and five,
- 6:17at approximately nine to fifteen hours, I responded to three
- 6:21fifty eight Lbrio and met with PB sanitation worker Jesse Jones.
- 6:25I observed Jones enter the driveway of three fifty eight
- 6:29Lbrio and remove one plastic bag of trash and place
- 6:32it in the back of an empty sanitation truck. I
- 6:35then followed Jones to a predetermined location and seize the
- 6:39trash from the truck. The trash was transported to the
- 6:42Palm Beach Police Department, where I began sifting through its contents.
- 6:46There was a total of one white in color plastic
- 6:49bag which contained correspondence for three fifty eight l Brio.
- 6:53All documents of evidentiary value were removed and turned over
- 6:57to Detective Racari for follow up. On or about Monday,
- 7:01October third, two thousand and five, at approximately oh nine
- 7:05to fifteen hours, I responded to three fifty eight l
- 7:09Brio and met with PB sanitation worker Jeff Williams. I
- 7:12observed Williams enter the driveway of three fifty eight LBRIO
- 7:16and remove several plastic bags in trash and place the
- 7:20contents into the back of an empty sanitation truck. I
- 7:24then followed Williams to a predetermined location and seize the
- 7:28trash from the truck. The trash was transported to the
- 7:31Palm Beach Police Department, where I began sifting through its contents.
- 7:35There was a total of seven white in color plastic
- 7:38bags with red tie and one black in color bag
- 7:41which contained two white in color plastic bags with a
- 7:44red tie. Each of the bags contained documentation and correspondence
- 7:49for three fifty eight l BRIO and Jeffrey Epstein. Inside
- 7:53one of the white in color bags, I located a
- 7:55broken piece of a hard plastic or clear acrylic stick
- 7:59which which was shaped with small ridges. This device is
- 8:02commonly used as a sexual toy, which is inserted into
- 8:06the vagina or the anus for stimulation. This item, along
- 8:10with all documents of evidentiary value, were removed and turned
- 8:14over to Detective Racari for follow up. On or about Tuesday,
- 8:19October fourth, two thousand and five, at approximately nine twenty eight,
- 8:24I responded to three fifty eight LBRIO and met with
- 8:26PB sanitation worker Jeff Williams. I observe Williams enter the
- 8:31driveway of three fifty eight LBRIO and remove several plastic
- 8:34bags of trash and place the contents into the side
- 8:37well of the sanitation truck. This side of the truck
- 8:40is separate from the rear of the truck and does
- 8:43not come into contact with the other trash. I then
- 8:46followed Williams to a predetermined location and seize the trash
- 8:50from the truck. The trash was transported to the Palm
- 8:53Beach Police Department, where I began sifting through its contents.
- 8:56There was a total of two white in color plastic
- 8:59bags which were tied at the top. Each of the
- 9:02bags contained documentation and correspondence for three fifty eight LBRIO
- 9:07and Jeffrey Epstein. All documents of evidentiary value were removed
- 9:11and turned over to Detective Riccary for follow up. On
- 9:15or about Wednesday, October fifth, two thousand and five, at
- 9:19approximately nine twenty eight, I responded to three fifty eight
- 9:23LBRIO and met with pb sanitation worker Jeff Williams. I
- 9:27observe Williams enter the driveway of three fifty eight LBRIO
- 9:31and remove several plastic bags and placed the contents into
- 9:35the bed of the sanitation truck. I then followed Williams
- 9:38to a predetermined location and seize the trash from the truck.
- 9:42The trash was transported to the Palm Beach Police Department,
- 9:45where I began sifting through its contents with assistants from
- 9:49Detective Raccari. There were a total of two bags, one
- 9:52of which was white in color and tied in a
- 9:54knot at the top, and the other was a black
- 9:56in color bag which contained two white in color t
- 10:00bags along with loose debris. Each of the bags contained
- 10:03documentation and correspondence for three p fifty eight Albrio and
- 10:07Jeffrey Epstein. All documents of evidentiary value were removed and
- 10:12turned over to Detective Roccary for follow up. Now we're
- 10:16bouncing back to Detective Roccary and his narrative. I met
- 10:20with Detective Kroll and requested further assistance to maintain trash
- 10:24collections at Epstein's residence at three fifty eight Albrio Road.
- 10:28On October three, two thousand and five, at approximately ten
- 10:31thirty am, I was contacted by Sergeant Frick to respond
- 10:35to the Palm Beach Police Station. Detective Kroll had observed
- 10:39jeff Epstein riding his bicycle on South County Road. Upon
- 10:42my arrival, I met with Sergeant Frick, who advised, as
- 10:45Epstein was currently in town, we interviewed redacted as to
- 10:49her involvement with Epstein and that the girls that are
- 10:53brought to his house. As we were to interview Redacted
- 10:56in the county outside of our jurisdiction, iye contact did
- 11:00the State Attorney's Office Investigative Division, and I made contact
- 11:04with Assistant Supervisor Investigator Carlos Ortiz. I requested assistance to
- 11:09interview redacted as the interview may occur in the county.
- 11:13The supervisor or ties assigned investigator Mike Waits to assist
- 11:17us at the location and the interview of redacted. Detective
- 11:21Dix had responded to the address of redacted and viewed
- 11:25her vehicle parked in the driveway. Redacted vehicle, a red
- 11:28Plymouth Neon bearing redacted, was parked in the driveway of
- 11:33redacted in Lochsahatchie. Sergeant Frick and I responded to the
- 11:37one twentieth Avenue and awaited to the arrival of Investigator
- 11:41Mike Waits. Upon his arrival, he was briefed that should
- 11:45she wish to be interviewed within her home, he would
- 11:48be needed. However, should redacted or agree to return to
- 11:51the police station for further questioning, he would not be needed.
- 11:55Sergeant Frick and I knocked on the door and met
- 11:57with redacted and redacted and was told that we were
- 12:00investigating a claim involving Jeffrey Epstein of LBRIO in Palm Beach.
- 12:05Redacted was asked if she wanted to accompany us back
- 12:08to the police station for further questioning. She was also
- 12:11told that at the conclusion of the interview, she would
- 12:14be returned home. She agreed in wished to change her
- 12:17clothes prior to accompanying us back to the police station.
- 12:21At the conclusion of her changing clothes, she advised she
- 12:24was ready to go. I thanked investigator weights and advised
- 12:29she was going to voluntarily return to the police station.
- 12:33Upon entry into the unmarked detective vehicle, I placed a
- 12:37tape recorder within the vehicle to record any conversation within
- 12:41the vehicle. During the ride back to the police station,
- 12:44Redacted advice she is attending Palm Beach Community College at
- 12:48the Palm Beach Gardens campus and is majoring in journalism.
- 12:51Upon our arrival at the police station, Redacted was brought
- 12:55to the interview room in the detective bureau. I explained
- 12:59to or redacted that I appreciated her willingness to assist
- 13:02us and informed her that should she desire to leave
- 13:05at any time, she may do so. I further explained
- 13:07the interview room door is only closed for privacy. Redacted
- 13:11stated she understood. During the tape sworn interview, Redacted was
- 13:16asked how she came in contact with Epstein. Redacted stated,
- 13:19back when she turned seventeen years of age, she was
- 13:23approached by a friend in the Canopy Beach Resort in
- 13:27Rivera Beach. Redacted was asked if she wanted to make
- 13:30some money. She was told that she would have to
- 13:32provide a massage and should make two hundred bucks. Redacted
- 13:37thought about the offer and agreed to meet with Jeffrey.
- 13:40Redacted unknown last name and redacted unknown last name picked
- 13:44her up and she was taken to Epstein's house. Upon
- 13:47her arrival at the house, she was introduced to Epstein
- 13:50in the kitchen of the house. She was also introduced
- 13:53to a white female known to her as Sarah. She
- 13:56was led upstairs to the main bedroom, known to her
- 13:59as Jeffetstein's bedroom. Sarah arranged the massage table and covered
- 14:03the table with a sheet. She brought out the massage
- 14:06oils and laid them next to the massage bed. Sarah
- 14:09then left the room and informed her Jeff would be
- 14:12in in a minute. Jeff entered the bedroom wearing only
- 14:15a towel. He lay on the table on his stomach
- 14:18and picked massage oil for Redacted to rub on him.
- 14:21During the massage, Redacted stated, he tried to touch me
- 14:25and I stopped him. I asked how he tried to
- 14:27touch her. He grabbed her buttocks he and she felt uncomfortable.
- 14:32Redacted also stated Epstein has a vibrator which is large
- 14:35and white in color. Redacted told epstein'll massage you, but
- 14:39I don't want to be touched. Redacted stated she performed
- 14:42the massage naked. At the conclusion of the massage, Epstein
- 14:45paid two hundred dollars for the massage. He explained, I
- 14:49know you're not comfortable, but I'll pay you if you
- 14:52bring some girls. He told her, the younger, the better.
- 14:55Redacted stated she once tried to bring a twenty three
- 14:58year old female in Epstein's day that the female was
- 15:01too old. Redacted was asked how many girls she brought
- 15:04in total to Epstein. Redacted stated six that she can remember.
- 15:09Redacted stated she brought redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, and
- 15:13the victim in this case. I asked redacted which one
- 15:17was the youngest. Redacted advise the victim was the youngest.
- 15:21Redacted stated, every girl she brought knew what to expect
- 15:24when they arrived. When they told they would provide a massage,
- 15:27possibly naked and some touching. I asked her if the
- 15:30victim was aware. She stated every girl she brought knew
- 15:34what to expect. She explained, she knew the victim wanted
- 15:37to make money. She approached the victim and explained she
- 15:40was going to work for jeff All right, folks, we're
- 15:42gonna wrap up right there, and in the next episode,
- 15:44we're gonna pick up where we left off. All of
- 15:47the information that goes with this episode can be found
- 15:50in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back
- 15:54to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to
- 15:57pick up where we left off with the pont Beach
- 16:00police report from the initial investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and
- 16:05as crimes. The victim agreed and our arrangements were made
- 16:10to bring the victim to Epstein's house on a weekend.
- 16:13Redacted stated that she and redacted later identified as redacted,
- 16:18picked up the victim at the victim's house. They traveled
- 16:21to Epstein's house and entered through the kitchen door. They
- 16:24met with the house chef and Epstein's assistant, Sarah. The
- 16:27victim was introduced to Epstein while they were in the
- 16:30kitchen area. Sarah led the victim upstairs and Epstein went upstairs.
- 16:35When the massage was over, the victim returned to the
- 16:37kitchen area. Redacted stated that she was paid two hundred
- 16:41dollars to bring the victim to Epstein's. Redacted stated that
- 16:44the victim told her that she was paid three hundred
- 16:47dollars for the massage. Back in the vehicle, Redacted as
- 16:51the victim what happened. The victim told her about the
- 16:53massage and then they won shopping. Redacted stated that the
- 16:57victim was the last person she brought the Epstein. She
- 17:01further stated that she had changed her cellular number to
- 17:04avoid being contacted by Sarah. She continued that when Epstein
- 17:09announced to his assistant that he is traveling to Palm Beach,
- 17:13Sarah would contact redacted to arrange girls for Epstein. Sarah
- 17:17later identified as Sarah Kelln date of birth, redacted, had
- 17:21told herdacted that Jeff likes to have fun with all
- 17:24the girls. So again, just to interject here, Sarah Kelln
- 17:28Vicker's name brought up all over these core documents and nothing.
- 17:33She's not brought in, she's not the post, She's not
- 17:36held to account. I wonder why. Redacted stated that once
- 17:41her parents discovered that she was visiting Epstein, they disapproved
- 17:45of the encounters with them and she stopped. Redacted further
- 17:48stated that Sarah still tries to call the house and
- 17:51leave messages. With the assistance of redacted, we were able
- 17:55to identify redacted, dob Redacted, redacted, and redacted redacted one
- 18:00more time and another Redaction. Sergeant Frick entered the room
- 18:05and explained that based on her own statements, she had
- 18:07implicated herself with bringing underage girls to Epstein's house. Redacted
- 18:12was aware of what she had stated and wished to
- 18:14assist further in hopes to receive a lesser charge. Redacted
- 18:18provided cellular telephone numbers for the girl she had mentioned previously. Additionally,
- 18:23she also provided possible addresses and areas in which they lived.
- 18:28As Redacted was being taken home in the vehicle, a
- 18:31tape recorder was placed within the vehicle to record any
- 18:35conversations within the vehicle. During the drive back to her home,
- 18:39Redacted made the comment unlike a Heidi Flice Hollywood madam
- 18:43who sent girls to clients for sexual favors in California.
- 18:47Redacted was dropped off at her house without incident. Sergeant
- 18:51Frick and I went to redacted locks Ahatchie Florida, in
- 18:55an attempt to speak with redacted. We met with the
- 18:57ongoing investigation and felt that that Redacted may have additional information,
- 19:03as we had information that she had worked for Jeff.
- 19:06Misredacted introduced us to her husband and allowed us entry
- 19:10into the home. We sat in the dining room and
- 19:13met with redacted. As she was under age of eighteen,
- 19:17Misredacted was advised we would be speaking with her. She
- 19:21expressed if her daughter had information she wanted to assist.
- 19:25As we interviewed or redacted. She denied having any inappropriate
- 19:28encounters with Jeff. She stated she had gone to Jeff's
- 19:32house with Hailey Robson approximately eight months ago and sat
- 19:35in the kitchen with the house chef, but nothing happened
- 19:38as the parents were present. During the interview, we felt
- 19:41that redacted was withholding information from us. She made several
- 19:45comments as to she has put the entire incident behind her.
- 19:49I left my direct phone number and advised should she
- 19:53wish to speak with me again, to telephone me. Sergeant
- 19:56Frick and I thank Misredacted for her time and left
- 19:59the area. She stated she would ask her again after
- 20:02we left as to what happened at Epstein's house. I
- 20:05informed her that Redacted had my telephone number and hopefully
- 20:09she would call. Sergeant Frick and I then attempted to
- 20:13contact redacted at redacted in Locksahatchie. We met with redacted,
- 20:18who stated Redacted was her daughter. Redacted was at the
- 20:21Wellington Mall and she was not home. We explained the
- 20:25ongoing investigation and felt that Redacted may have additional information
- 20:30as we had information that she had worked for Jeff.
- 20:33We left our phone numbers and asked her to telephone
- 20:35me upon her daughter's return. We then left the area.
- 20:39On October fourth, two thousand and five, at approximately eight
- 20:42oh five am, Sergeant Frick had retrieved a voicemail message
- 20:46from redacted. She stated she had spoken with her daughter
- 20:50and she had information as to what occurred at Jeff's house.
- 20:54I contacted or redacted, who stated her daughter was in
- 20:57the shower at the moment and would be traveling back
- 20:59to our Orlando to attend college. I informed her I
- 21:02would be en route to her home in Locksahatchie. Detective
- 21:06Dawson and I drove to the home and met with
- 21:08redacted and redacted. During a sworn tape statement, Redacted stated
- 21:13that She was taken to the house by Hailey Robson.
- 21:15She was told she could make money working for Jeff.
- 21:18She was told she would have to provide a massage
- 21:21to Jeff. Redacted stated upon her arrival to the house,
- 21:25she was brought to the kitchen area by Robson. They
- 21:28met with the house chef, and Haley stayed in the kitchen.
- 21:31She was introduced to Sarah, Jeff's assistant, and was brought
- 21:34upstairs to the master bedroom. Sarah prepared the room and
- 21:38massage table for a massage. Epstein entered the room and
- 21:41she provided a massage. Redacted stated that she kept her
- 21:45clothes on during the massage. She stated sometime during the massage,
- 21:49Epstein grabbed her buttox and pulled her clothes to him.
- 21:52Redacted said that she was weirded out by the incident
- 21:55involving Jeff. At the conclusion of the massage, she was
- 21:59paid two hundred dollars for the massage. I asked redacted
- 22:02if she had any formal training in massages, to which
- 22:05she replied no. I asked her if Robson received any
- 22:08monies for taking her to reform the massage. Redacted stated
- 22:12Robson also received money for taking her there. Redacted stated
- 22:16she went with Robson and another girl, Redacted to Jeff's
- 22:20house once. Redacted stated that she waited in the kitchen
- 22:23with Robson while Redacted was taken upstairs by Sarah. Redacted
- 22:28stated she only did the massage once as she was
- 22:31weirded out by the whole experience. At the conclusion of
- 22:34the interview and the tape was stopped, I was informed
- 22:38that Sarah had attempted to reach Redacted via cell phone.
- 22:41A voicemail message on October fourth, two thousand and five,
- 22:45at ten fifteen nine am revealed a female voice who
- 22:48identified herself as Sarah, who requested her to call her
- 22:51back reference the police questioning. The voicemail message was recorded
- 22:57onto a micro cassette, again Sarah Kellen trying to gum
- 23:01up the works and somehow Sarah Kellen was never arrested.
- 23:05This voicemail message was recorded onto a micro cassette provided
- 23:09the incoming telephone number as redacted and Redacted stated she
- 23:13inadvertently told Redacted about the police investigation because Redacted had
- 23:17called her to tell her about how she had just
- 23:20received a rental car from Jeff Epstein. Redacted had called
- 23:24her to tell her that she was given a rental car,
- 23:26a silver Nissan Sentra, to utilize to visit family and
- 23:30to visit Jeff. Redacted asked her what was going on
- 23:33at the house that the police would be asking questions.
- 23:36Redacted stated that Redacted then called Jeff and Sarah and
- 23:40asked what was going on in reference to the ongoing
- 23:43police investigation. According to Redacted, Sarah has since then been
- 23:47trying to contact her to ask about the police questions.
- 23:51I instructed or redacted not to contact Sarah and do
- 23:54not provide any more information to redacted, as she would
- 23:58notify Jeff Epstein and Sarah what was transpiring. Now we're
- 24:03jumping over to the narrative of Lee Lamont. On March thirtieth,
- 24:07two thousand and five, I was asked by Sergeant Daniel
- 24:10Cesarski to begin conducting surveillance and trash pulls reference Detective
- 24:15Pagan conducting a criminal investigation involving Jeffrey Epstein. I was
- 24:19advised that Epstein was possibly engaging in sexual contact with
- 24:23young females. On March thirtieth, two thousand and five, I
- 24:26made contact with Town of Palm Beach Sanitation Office supervisor
- 24:30Tony Higgins and requested trash pulls for three fifty eight
- 24:34Albrio Way to begin on March thirty first, two thousand
- 24:37and five. On March thirty first, two thousand and five,
- 24:40at nine twenty am, I responded to the area up
- 24:43three fifty eight Albrio Way and met with Town of
- 24:46Palm Beach sanitation employee Jeffrey Williams. I observe Williams enter
- 24:51the driveway up three fifty eight Albrio Way, collect the
- 24:54trash bags from Epstein's property, and place the contents into
- 24:57an empty sanitation truck. I followed Williams to a nearby
- 25:01area where he turned over seventeen white plastic bags which
- 25:05were collected from the Epstein property. I took the trash
- 25:10bags to the sanitation department, where I sifted through its contents.
- 25:14I collected mail correspondence from Armani Exchange addressed to Nadia Marsenkova,
- 25:20Jeffrey Epstein notepaper with redacted an important message notepaper addressed
- 25:26to Je dated three twenty nine oh five at a
- 25:29fifteen reference redacted. US Airways boarding pass copy for passenger
- 25:34Janoos Banisik Montgomery County Maryland Health Department Food Service ID
- 25:39redacted for Janice Banisick and Glenn Maxwell. Notepaper with names
- 25:44and phone numbers. Photo copies of the trash collected were
- 25:47attached with the supplement. Detective Pagan was advised of the
- 25:52contents that were collected for evidentiary value. On March thirty first,
- 25:57two thousand and five, Sergeant Daniels's Zarski requested that I
- 26:01set up surveillance vehicle on Elbrio Way and conduct video
- 26:05surveillance of the front exterior of Epstein's residence. At three pm,
- 26:09I set up a surveillance vehicle equipped with a video
- 26:12monitoring device. The surveillance vehicle was parked on Elbrio Way,
- 26:16approximately fifty feet east of Epstein's driveway. The purpose of
- 26:20the video surveillance was to gather investigative intelligence by monitoring
- 26:25and recording all vehicle and pedestrian traffic entering and leaving
- 26:29Epstein's property. The video surveillance tapes were changed daily with
- 26:34a new Maxwell T one sixty VHS tape. Video surveillance
- 26:39was established for Epstein's from March thirty first, two thousand
- 26:43and five through April fifth, two thousand and five. On
- 26:46April fifth, two thousand and five, video surveillance was concluded.
- 26:50I reviewed the videotapes and advised Detective Pagan the surveillance
- 26:54videos yielded no evidentiary value. On April first, two thousand
- 26:59and five, at nine thirty am, I responded to the
- 27:02area of three fifty eight Lbrio Way to meet with
- 27:05Town upon Beach Sanitation employee Jesse Jones. While parked in
- 27:09the area of three fifty eight Lbrio Way waiting to
- 27:13collect Epstein's trash, I observed a white female who I
- 27:16recognized as Nadia marson Kova from her Florida driver's license photograph.
- 27:23I made no contact with Marsonkova. While parked in the area,
- 27:27I also observed Epstein's gmcu con truck leave the property,
- 27:31as well as other vehicles arrive and park across the
- 27:34street from the property. The occupants of these vehicles appeared
- 27:38to be the housekeepers, maintenance men, and the gardeners. At
- 27:42nine thirty eight am, I met with Townupom Beach Sanitation
- 27:45employee Jesse Jones. I observed Jones entered the driveway of
- 27:50three fifty eight Lbrio Way and collected trash from Epstein's property.
- 27:55I followed Jesse to a predetermined area, at which time
- 27:58I collected the trash bags from the sanitation truck. I
- 28:02transported the trash bags to the sanitation department, where I
- 28:05sifted through its contents. I collected mail correspondence addressed to
- 28:09Jeffrey Epstein, automotive records and personal documents for Janus Banisik
- 28:14and Beta Banisik, as well as Jeffrey Epstein notepaper with
- 28:19the names and appointment times for redacted and redacted. No
- 28:23last names or other personal information was written on the
- 28:26note paper. While sifting through Epstein's trash, I also collected
- 28:30a three inch purple finger sized object which had a
- 28:33broken end. The object appeared to be a broke piece
- 28:36from a sexual toy similar to a cyclone vibrator, possibly
- 28:41used for rectal gratification. The sexual object was photographed for
- 28:45Detective Pagan, packaged in a biohazard evidence bag, possible body fluids,
- 28:50and secured in an investigative evidence All items collected from
- 28:54Epstein's trash were turned over to Detective Pagan for evidentiary purposes.
- 29:00On April fifth, two thousand and five, at nine to
- 29:03eighteen am. I met with Town of Palm Beach Sanitation
- 29:06employee Jesse Jones. I observe Jones enter the driveway of
- 29:11three point fifty eight Elbrio Way and collect the trash
- 29:14from Epstein's property. I followed Jesse to a predetermined area,
- 29:18at which time I collected the trash bags from the
- 29:21sanitation truck. I transported the trash bags to the sanitation department,
- 29:26where I sifted through its contents. I collected mail correspondence
- 29:30addressed to Jeffrey Epstein, as well as notepaper, important message
- 29:34with names and telephone numbers. The following are items collected
- 29:38from Epstein's trash redacted, blank piece of white paper redacted,
- 29:43black paper redacted, black paper redacted, David redacted, MSN hotmail
- 29:49web page with the email address redacted. The following items
- 29:53were documented for Detective Pagan and her investigation for evidentiary purposes.
- 29:59On It eight eleven, twelve, thirteen fifteen of two thousand
- 30:04and five, at approximately nine thirty am, I met with
- 30:07Town of Palm Beach Sanitation employees. I observed the employee
- 30:11enter the driveway of three fifty eight Elbrio Way and
- 30:14collect the trash from Epstein's property. I followed the employee
- 30:18to a predetermined area, at which time I collected the
- 30:21trash bags from the sanitation truck. I transported the trash
- 30:25bags to the sanitation department, where I sifted through its contents.
- 30:29All of the documents collected from Epstein's trash during my
- 30:32assistance were turned over to Detective Pagan for evidentiary purposes.
- 30:38On June fourteenth, two thousand and five, Detective Michelle Pegan
- 30:41contacted me and advised that the airplane belonging to Jeffrey
- 30:45Epstein of three point fifty eight Elbrio Way was parked
- 30:48at the Palm Beach International Airport. Detective Pagan requested that
- 30:53I begin trash pulls for the purpose of gathering evidence
- 30:56and intelligence. I made contact with the Town of Palm
- 30:59Beach Sannitation Office Supervisor Tony Higgins and requested trash pulls
- 31:04for three fifty eight Lbrio Way to begin on June fifteenth,
- 31:08two thousand and five. On June fifteenth, two thousand and five,
- 31:12I met with a sanitation employee. I observed the employee
- 31:16enter the driveway of three fifty eight Elbrio Way and
- 31:19collect the trash from Epstein's property. I followed the employee
- 31:23to a predetermined area, at which time I collected the
- 31:26trash bags from the sanitation truck. I transported the trash
- 31:30bags to the sanitation department, where I sifted through its contents.
- 31:34The trash yielded negative results and no evidence was collected.
- 31:38No further trash was collected throughout the week due to
- 31:41the fact that Epstein's security gates remained closed throughout the week. Therefore,
- 31:45the sanitation employees were unable to gain access onto the
- 31:49property for collection of the trash. All the evidence and
- 31:53intelligence gathered by this officer has been turned over to
- 31:57the detective Bureau, and no further action has been taken
- 32:00by this officer. End of the supplement. All right, So
- 32:03we're going to wrap up this episode here and in
- 32:05the next episode, we're gonna pick up where we left off.
- 32:09All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 32:12be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
- 32:15welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're
- 32:19picking right back up where we left off with a
- 32:21Palm Beach police report. And to do that, we're picking
- 32:25up once again with the narrative of Joseph Raccari On
- 32:30October fourth, two thousand and five, I made telephone contact
- 32:33with redacted, who left several messages on voicemail. During the message,
- 32:38she advised she was not completely truthful when we met
- 32:41in person, but would like to speak with me to
- 32:43advise what had happened. She further advised she did not
- 32:46want to speak of this incident in front of her mother.
- 32:49At approximately fifteen forty eight pm, I made the telephone
- 32:52contact with redacted at redacted. During a tape recorded statement,
- 32:57Redacted stated the following approximate A year ago, when she
- 33:01was sixteen years of age, Robson took her over to
- 33:03Jeff's house twice. The first time she went Hailey. Robson
- 33:07drove her to the house. They entered through the kitchen area,
- 33:12where she was introduced to Sarah and Jeff. She was
- 33:14taken upstairs to a bedroom by Sarah, who set the
- 33:18room up with a massage bed and brought out the
- 33:20oils to use. Jeff then entered the room wearing a towel.
- 33:24He lay on the table and picked out a lotion
- 33:27for Redacted to rub on him. At one point during
- 33:29the massage, he tried to remove her shirt, at which
- 33:32point she became very upset and discontinued the massage. Both
- 33:37Redacted and Jeffrey had a verbal disagreement, at which time
- 33:40she left without being paid. She met with Hailey Robson,
- 33:43who was sitting in the kitchen, and told her let's
- 33:45go redacted advice. She received no money for that day.
- 33:49Redacted also said that Hailey Robson had told her if
- 33:53she was uncomfortable with what was going on, to let
- 33:55him know and I'll stop. She knew that the more
- 33:58you do, the more you'll get paid. Several weeks later,
- 34:01Redacted she agreed to be taken a second time by
- 34:05Hailey Robson. Once they arrived at the residence, Haley sat
- 34:08in the kitchen and Sarah took her upstairs to the
- 34:11master bedroom. Again, Sarah set up the room with the
- 34:15massage bed and brought out the oils to use. Jeff
- 34:18then entered the room wearing a towel. He lay on
- 34:20the table and picked out a lotion for redacted to
- 34:23rub on him. At one point during the massage, he
- 34:26tried to touch her buttocks. As Redacted was wearing tight
- 34:29jeans and had a tight belt on, jeff was unable
- 34:32to touch her buttocks. Jeff then rolled onto his back.
- 34:35During the massage, he attempted to touch her breast. Redacted
- 34:38then became upset again and told him she didn't want
- 34:41to be touched. Redacted discontinued the massage and was paid
- 34:45two hundred dollars. Redacted then went downstairs, where Hailey Robson
- 34:49was waiting for her. She told Robson she wanted to leave.
- 34:53Redacted said she never returned to the house. Redacted stated
- 34:56she is aware that her friend redacted was also the
- 35:00house and had a problem with Jeff. She provided a
- 35:03telephone number four redacted. The interview was concluded and the
- 35:07micro cassettes were turned in as evidence. On October fifth,
- 35:11two thousand and five, I researched the incoming telephone number
- 35:14that had left redacted a message. The telephone number redacted
- 35:18was assigned to AT and T Singular Cellular Service. I
- 35:21prepared a subpoena request and fax the request to the
- 35:24State Attorney's office. Information requested was subscriber information, as well
- 35:30as all incoming and outgoing calls for the month of
- 35:33September and October two thousand and five. I later researched
- 35:38redacted and discovered she resides in Royal Palm Beach. Detective
- 35:43Dawson and I drove to Royal Palm Beach and met
- 35:45with redacted at a residence in Royal Palm Beach. Redacted
- 35:49agreed to speak with us in the kitchen area. During
- 35:51a sworn tape statement, Redacted stated the following honor. About
- 35:55November two thousand and four, she was approached by Hayley
- 35:58Robson and asked if she wanted to make money. She
- 36:02agreed and was told she would provide a massage to
- 36:04a wealthy man in Palm Beach. Robson picked her up
- 36:08and drove her to a house in Palm Beach. She
- 36:10was brought into the kitchen area of the house. She
- 36:13further stated that Redacted and Redacted went with them. They
- 36:17were brought into the kitchen where she was introduced to
- 36:19Jeff and other females. Redacted stated that she was introduced
- 36:23to a helper of Jeff. The female was described as
- 36:26white female, unknown name with blonde terror. She stated that
- 36:30the assistant was familiar with Robson. The assistant set up
- 36:33the massage table and put out lotions to be used.
- 36:36She told Redacted Jeff would be available in a minute,
- 36:39Jeff entered the room wearing only a towel. Jeff lay
- 36:41on the massage table and picked up the lotion to
- 36:44rub his thighs and back. Redacted further stated that during
- 36:48the massage, Jeff ast her to remove her clothes. She
- 36:51complied and removed her pants and her blouse. Redacted didn't
- 36:54remember if she had removed her bra, but feels like
- 36:57she did. Redacted with certain that she stayed in her
- 37:00thong underwear. Redacted continued the massage, and at one point
- 37:04she straddled them to massage's back, which touched his buttox
- 37:08with hers. Redacted was instructed to return to the ground,
- 37:12at which time Jeff turned to have his chest rubbed.
- 37:15Redacted advised it was at this time that she was
- 37:18sure he was masturbating. Redacted did not want to look
- 37:22at his penis area because she was uncomfortable. Jeff removed
- 37:26a large white vibrator and turned it on. Redacted stated
- 37:30he began rubbing the vibrator over her thong underwear on
- 37:33her vaginal area. Shortly thereafter, Jeff ejaculated and removed himself
- 37:38from the table. He walked over to where the shower
- 37:41was and opened the glass door, she waited as he
- 37:45was taking a shower in her direct view. When I
- 37:48asked Redacted how old she was when this occurred, she
- 37:51stated she had just turned seventeen. At the conclusion of
- 37:54the shower, Redacted was paid either three hundred and fifty
- 37:57or four hundred dollars. She stated she was in sure,
- 38:00but knows it was close to four hundred. At the
- 38:03conclusion of the interview, Redacted stated she never returned to
- 38:06provide a massage for Jeff. She advised she was ashamed
- 38:09and uncomfortable with the situation. Detective Dawson and I then
- 38:13left the area and responded to the redacted redacted High School,
- 38:17where Robson and all the above mentioned girls had attended.
- 38:21I met with school police officer, Officer Williams. I explained
- 38:25that I was looking for a previous student who attended
- 38:27redacted High School. I inquired about Redacted. I further explained
- 38:31that I was working a case in which most of
- 38:34the girls I have interviewed are either witnesses or victims,
- 38:37and I felt that Redacted maybe one as well. Officer
- 38:40Williams researched his previous student records and found Redacted. She
- 38:45attended the same year and graduated in the same year
- 38:48as the other girls. I was provided the last known
- 38:51address of Redacted. At approximately two ten pm, Detective Dawson
- 38:56and I met with Redacted at our residence redacted in
- 39:00Royal Palm Beach. As Redacted was only seventeen years of age,
- 39:03I had notified her mother misredacted, that she would be
- 39:06interviewed in a reference an ongoing investigation in Palm Beach.
- 39:11I assured her that her daughter was not a suspect.
- 39:13I explained the possibility of her being either a witness
- 39:16or a victim. Misredacted advice she wanted Redacted to cooperate,
- 39:21and Redacted stated the following. At the age of sixteen,
- 39:25during the month of September two thousand and four, she
- 39:27was approached by Hailey Robson for a chance to make
- 39:30some money. Redacted was friends with the friends of Robson
- 39:34and knew the same people. Redacted had previously been told
- 39:38by friends what and scheduled the employment. Robson picked Redacted
- 39:42up and drove her to Palm Beach to a street
- 39:45called Brio Way. They drove to the end of the
- 39:47street and entered a large driveway. They entered the kitchen
- 39:50area of the house and met with Jeff. Redacted was
- 39:53introduced to Jeff. Robson led Redacted upstairs to the main
- 39:57bedroom area and set the room with massage t and
- 40:00set out the oils. Robson dimmed the lights and turned
- 40:03on soft music. Robson exited the room and Jeff entered
- 40:07the room wearing only a towel. Jeff picked oils and
- 40:10instructed her to rub his legs under his buttocks back
- 40:14in chest area. Jeff asked her to get comfortable. Redacted
- 40:18advice she did not remove her clothes. She was wearing
- 40:20tight jeans and a crop tank top, exposing herbelly area.
- 40:24During the massage, Jeff removed his towel as Redacted rubbed
- 40:28his chest area. Jeff attempted to reach down her pants
- 40:31through the buttocks area, However, was unabled due to the
- 40:34tightness of the jeans and the tight belt. Redacted advised
- 40:38Jeff began to masturbate as she rubbed his chest. Jeff
- 40:41moaned as she rubbed his chest. She observed he was
- 40:44continuing to masturbate and attempted to reach up her tank
- 40:47top and touch her breasts. She pulled back and Jeff stopped. However,
- 40:51he kept masturbating until he climaxed. He cleaned himself with
- 40:55a towel he was previously wearing. I asked Redacted if
- 40:58she knew the difference between circumcised and not circumcised. She
- 41:02explained she knew and advised Jeff with circumcised. Redacted was
- 41:06paid two hundred dollars for the massage and left the area.
- 41:10She met with Robson, who was sitting in the kitchen,
- 41:13and they left the house. Redacted then explained she never
- 41:16provided another massage for Jeff. She did, however, go to
- 41:20the house with Robson and Redacted as they took another
- 41:23friend of Robson's. Redacted advised she was present when Redacted
- 41:28went to work for Jeff. She advised she rode over
- 41:31and sat in the kitchen area with Robson to wait
- 41:33for Redacted and Redacted advised that while they waited for
- 41:36Redacted at the house, the chef prepared lunch for them,
- 41:39as it was almost lunchtime. As Redacted was finished with
- 41:43the massage, they left the area. I asked Redacted if
- 41:46Robson ever told what would be expected of her when
- 41:49she provided a massage. Redacted stated yes. Robson told her
- 41:53that a massage would be expected, possibly naked and possibly
- 41:57some touching involved. Redacted has no normal training in providing massages.
- 42:02Redacted spoke about a third and last time that she
- 42:05went to Jeff's house. Robson drove another girl, redacted, who
- 42:09is Redacted's friend, to Jeff's house. Redacted stated she knew
- 42:12that Robson had made money providing girls for Jeff and
- 42:16she wanted to do the same. Robson took them to
- 42:19the kitchen area of the house and introduced them to Sarah.
- 42:22Robson and Sarah took Redacted upstairs to the main bedroom
- 42:26and Redacted advice she doesn't know what happened, as Redacted
- 42:29did not speak about what happened in the room. Redacted
- 42:33received one hundred dollars for Robson for going with her
- 42:35to Jeff's house and recommended Redacted was unable to remember
- 42:39a Redacted's telephone number. The interview was concluded and we
- 42:43left the area. On October sixth, two thousand and five,
- 42:46Detective Dawson and I went to Lynn University, located in
- 42:50Boco Ratan. We met with Dean of Students, Paul Turner.
- 42:54I explained to mister Turner that we were investigating a
- 42:57crime within the town Upalm Beach and felt that student
- 43:00Redacted may have information. Turner confirmed that Redacted as a
- 43:04student and currently on the soccer team for Lynn University.
- 43:08She was in computer class at the time of our arrival.
- 43:12Turner sent a security guard to locate Redacted in class
- 43:15and bring her to the office. Mister Turner allowed us
- 43:18to interview her Redacted in an empty conference room at
- 43:22eleven forty five am. I met with Redacted and explained
- 43:25to her why we were there to interview her. She
- 43:28advised she was aware of the ongoing investigation, and Redacted
- 43:32stated that she had previously spoken with Redacted, who told
- 43:35her she was interviewed by detectives. During a sworn tape statement,
- 43:39Redacted stated she knew that Hayley Robson worked for Jeff
- 43:42and Palm Beach. Redacted advised she had been there many
- 43:46times for massages. I asked her if she had formal
- 43:49training and providing massages. Redacted stated that she did not.
- 43:54Redacted advice she was told what was expected of her
- 43:57by providing massages and would have to remove clothing, but
- 44:00if she felt uncomfortable. Just to say so and Jeff
- 44:03would stop pushing the issue. Redacted began providing massages and
- 44:07advised she kept her clothes on. She considered Jeff a
- 44:10pervert who kept pushing to go further and further. Redacted
- 44:13explained she would keep telling him she had a boyfriend
- 44:16and that it would not be right to her boyfriend.
- 44:19It wasn't until recently. Redacted admitted to removing her clothes
- 44:22and staying in her thong underwear to provide a massage.
- 44:25Redacted explained Jeff wanted to be rubbed on his neck,
- 44:29and recently he began turning over to have her rub
- 44:32his chest. As he masturbated, he would try to touch
- 44:35her breasts as she rubbed his chest. Redacted stated Jeff
- 44:38would try to get away with more and more each massage. Originally,
- 44:42Robson drove her to the house for the original massage.
- 44:45Redacted left Sarah her cell phone number, and every time
- 44:48Jeff would come into town, Sarah would call her for
- 44:51an appointment. Each time she went, Sarah would meet her
- 44:54in the kitchen door area. She would bring her upstairs
- 44:57and prepare the massage table. Redacted advised that Jeff asked
- 45:02her questions about herself. He knew she was a soccer
- 45:05player and would be attending Lynn University. I asked redacted
- 45:09if he knew her real age. Redacted stated Jeff didn't care.
- 45:13The most recent massage she provided was on October first,
- 45:17two thousand and five. During the massage, she asked Jeff
- 45:20if she could borrow one of his vehicles to visit
- 45:22her family and boyfriend in Orlando. Jeff had told her
- 45:26she could borrow one of his vehicles, but later stated
- 45:29he would rent her a car. She continued with the massage,
- 45:33and Jeff grabbed her buttocks and caressed her buttocks cheeks.
- 45:37I asked if she was wearing undergarments, to which she
- 45:40replied thong underwear. Once he tried to touch her breast,
- 45:44she would pull away from him and he would stop.
- 45:47Redacted was asked if she ever used a vibrator on her.
- 45:50Redacted was aware of the vibrator, but advised she would
- 45:54never allow him to use a vibrator on her. She
- 45:57described the vibrator as a large white vibrator with a
- 46:01huge head on the tip of the vibrator. She stated
- 46:04he kept the vibrator in a closet near the massage table.
- 46:08Redacted advised she had been doing the massage for approximately
- 46:11two years, which meant she would have started doing massages
- 46:15for Jeff at the age of sixteen. Redacted stated she
- 46:19was contacted by Sarah on October third, two thousand and five.
- 46:22Sarah had informed her that Jeff had rented her a
- 46:25new Nissan Sentra and she should come by the house
- 46:28to pick it up. Sarah informer redacted she would have
- 46:31the car for a month. Redacted stated Jeff knew her
- 46:34car was not working properly and had missed appointments in
- 46:38the past because her car being inoperable. Redacted explain the
- 46:42car is currently parked next to the gym field. I
- 46:44asked her if she ever took anyone to the house.
- 46:48Redacted explain she took redacted a friend of hers who
- 46:51has returned to Orlando to attend college. I asked if
- 46:55she ever allowed another female in the room. Redacted advised
- 46:58no one was brought into the room with her. At
- 47:00the conclusion of the interview, Detective Dawson and I went
- 47:03to the gym area and located the silver Nissan CenTra
- 47:07bearing Florida tag X ninety eight a PM. The vehicle
- 47:11is registered to Dollar rent a Car out of Palm
- 47:13Beach International Airport. Telephone contact was made with redacted, the
- 47:17victim's mother at redacted. I explained to her that I
- 47:21was following up on this case and provided a complete
- 47:23update on the case. The investigation continues. All right, folks,
- 47:28we're gonna wrap up right here and in the next episode,
- 47:30we'll pick up where we left off. All of the
- 47:33information that goes with this episode can be found in
- 47:37the description box.