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Nick Wright on Wemby's "revenge", LeBron James to New York? and the Lakers’ Next Move | 05.13 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Wave. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A
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  Speaker 1: have a guest join us. Check him out on FS1,
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  Speaker 1: 3 o'clock Eastern, First Things First. Nick Wright, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Bo, great to see you. Great to talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: How are you this morning?
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  Speaker 1: Dude, I'm good. I'm loving that, like, we're getting to
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  Speaker 1: a place. It's very interesting. And I don't think people
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  Speaker 1: understand this. You and I have... More times than people
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  Speaker 1: would recognize where we are in dead on alignment, right?
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  Speaker 1: Where I will be at your house and we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about something and one goes first and the other is like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that is exactly what I was going to say. Which
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  Speaker 1: makes it even more fun to me when we are
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  Speaker 1: completely divergent or largely divergent, which is often in spirit,
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  Speaker 1: usually your discrimination against skinny people. which I find to
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  Speaker 1: be odd because he kind of in the crew, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't, I don't, I don't really understand it. Now,
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  Speaker 1: first I'll tell people two places where Nick and I
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  Speaker 1: were in complete alignment. I got a text from Nick
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  Speaker 1: where he saw that. I said that the Pacers should
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  Speaker 1: have fired Kevin Pritchard, but that dumb shit he said
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter. And Nick was like, I forced this into
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  Speaker 1: the rundown of my show.
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  Speaker 2: Just so I could say the exact, You can't make
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  Speaker 2: a trade that's a 52-48 coin flip and then be like, man,
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  Speaker 2: I actually thought it was 75-25 because of karma. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you can't. It's the GM equivalent of being in Vegas
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  Speaker 2: walking past the roulette wheel and that stupid little sign's like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: red's come up seven in a row. I guess black
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  Speaker 2: is due. So, yes, that was bad.
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  Speaker 1: That was exactly what he said. And then I saw
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  Speaker 1: that Nick said the thing that I had been meaning
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  Speaker 1: to say but I forgot, which was... bringing your kids
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  Speaker 1: to press conferences after a loss is actually some suck-ass shit.
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  Speaker 1: You did not use those words. I did not. But
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  Speaker 1: Joel Embiid definitely plays the shield game. But you bring
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  Speaker 1: them to the press conference after a 4-0 sweep? Come on, man,
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  Speaker 1: you can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what his intention is, but I know
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  Speaker 2: what the impact is. And the impact of, like, it
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  Speaker 2: should just be a general rule of decorum, which is,
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  Speaker 2: if there's any chance this tough questions need to be asked,
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't bring my kids like a legitimate question to
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  Speaker 2: ask and beat after that press conference would have been,
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  Speaker 2: do you think you're going to be traded? Not, I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know if he's tradable because of the contract,
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  Speaker 2: but do you think you're going to be traded? But
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  Speaker 2: can you ask that question? If there's a child sitting
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  Speaker 2: there and you're like, wait, am I going to be
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  Speaker 2: breaking news to this kid that he might have to move?
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  Speaker 2: And so I think it started with good intentions. It
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  Speaker 2: started with Steph Curry always winning and bringing Riley and
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  Speaker 2: everyone loved it, but there were no tough questions to
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  Speaker 2: be asked. Steph, to his credit, to my recollection, the
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  Speaker 2: press conference after he got thrown out of the finals
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  Speaker 2: game for whipping his mouth guard into the front row
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  Speaker 2: when LeBron was walking him down, He didn't have Riley
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  Speaker 2: on his lap that day. And so I just think
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  Speaker 2: there's a time and a place for it. But that's
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  Speaker 2: where we're aligned. I'm curious where we're misaligned on Wimby.
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  Speaker 1: We're not so much misaligned. We're misaligned on the fundamental, right? Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're kind of operating on the assumption just
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  Speaker 1: like you did with my man Chet. I don't like
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  Speaker 1: Chet as much as I used to because Victor don't
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  Speaker 1: like Chet that much. You know, you just think all
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  Speaker 1: the skinny guys going to break down. You don't think
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  Speaker 1: we tough enough. You know what I'm saying? Like, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you're holding out as the last skeptic. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I give you credit for this. You will hold a
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  Speaker 1: take as long as it goes. It seems very obvious
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  Speaker 1: to me that this is the best player in the
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  Speaker 1: NBA for the next 10, 12 years. Like, help me.
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  Speaker 2: 10, 12 years is a long time. So listen, I've
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  Speaker 2: said this before, but it was never more apparent than
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  Speaker 2: last night in the broadcast where they framed a game
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  Speaker 2: that Wimby was fortunate to be playing because he avoided
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  Speaker 2: what would have been a totally reasonable, if not a
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  Speaker 2: little punitive suspension of as if he was the one
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  Speaker 2: who got elbowed in the neck. The entire conceit of
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  Speaker 2: the broadcast was this Wimby's hero return as if he
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  Speaker 2: had been the one who was wrong. And it included
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  Speaker 2: how the game was officiated early when Nas Reed gave
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  Speaker 2: him a little shove to the back and they called
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  Speaker 2: it a delay of game technical foul. And again, I
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  Speaker 2: felt like I was a crazy person. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: everything about this is it's as if Nas had elbowed
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  Speaker 2: Wimby and Wimby valiantly fought through it as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: a 22-year-old who... at 20 was studying all-star skills game competition,
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  Speaker 2: fine print rules, pretending he didn't know what a flagrant
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  Speaker 2: two was right after seeing Nas behind him and clocking
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  Speaker 2: him in the neck. And so I, I, he's obviously
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  Speaker 2: a transcendent talent. He's obviously a great player. And if
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  Speaker 2: we do get Spurs thunder, which I'm not, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think the Timberwolves are quite dead, dead yet, but their
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  Speaker 2: own life support, I'll probably be rooting for the Spurs
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  Speaker 2: because I find the Thunder so irritating. But I can't.
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  Speaker 2: It is the just snap double standard for certain guys
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  Speaker 2: bothers me. If Luka got thrown out of a playoff
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  Speaker 2: game for yelling at a ref, people wouldn't frame the
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  Speaker 2: next game as his valiant return to work. So I
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  Speaker 2: just didn't like it.
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  Speaker 1: So I do agree with you on this, right? That
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say that I enjoyed him elbowing
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  Speaker 1: Nas Reed. I did enjoy his full on indifference to
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he had done so after the fact.
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  Speaker 1: Like I appreciate even if whether or not he knew
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  Speaker 1: a flagrant to meant an ejection. I feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: on the board that maybe, you know, we don't see
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  Speaker 1: flagrant twos every day.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like maybe it's on the board that he does not
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  Speaker 1: know that that means automatic ejection. What I do appreciate
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  Speaker 1: is that he didn't act like an ejection was something crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: It seems that the decision has been made. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to elbow this dude in the head and if they
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  Speaker 1: put me out of here, they're going to put me
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  Speaker 1: out of here. What I did think was interesting was
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  Speaker 1: how few people framed it truly in the context of
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  Speaker 1: they lost that game and it's because of you and
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  Speaker 1: these guys that you're going to play against next round
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  Speaker 1: are going to have a week to rest up and
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  Speaker 1: get right and your team won't because you lost your
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  Speaker 1: shit and you elbowed this dude in the head. But
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  Speaker 1: I do appreciate that he didn't act like he didn't
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  Speaker 1: elbow the dude in the head.
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  Speaker 2: And I also, listen, Wimby doesn't, this is where track
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  Speaker 2: record and all this stuff really, really matters. He doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have a track record as a dirty player. So I
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  Speaker 2: can chalk this up as a one-off lost his temper,
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  Speaker 2: you know, lost his head for a moment. And now
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  Speaker 2: he's kind of on a dirty player probationary period in
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  Speaker 2: my head because he has, since he's such a young player,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't have much of a track record of anything.
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  Speaker 2: But assuming he gets through the next year or two
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  Speaker 2: without any instance like this again, it gets wiped from
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  Speaker 2: his record. And, you know, he's just, clean moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: But that last, and I don't, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: I like that he kind of owned it once, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Harrison Barnes explained to him what a flagrant two meant.
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  Speaker 2: I just, a lot of what has been taken by
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  Speaker 2: the audience as wimpy criticism is really very often media criticism.
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  Speaker 2: Because It is... I've been doing the TV show for
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  Speaker 2: nine years. I think Wimby is the first superstar to
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  Speaker 2: be thrown out of a game in a playoff game
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  Speaker 2: with the game in the balance. Joker got thrown out
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  Speaker 2: when that game was over and the series was over
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  Speaker 2: when he whacked campaign and we criticized him for it,
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  Speaker 2: but it had no tangible impact on his team. Steph,
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  Speaker 2: when he threw the mouthpiece... He was actually angry. The
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  Speaker 2: reason he threw the mouthpiece was because he had just
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  Speaker 2: been called for his sixth foul.
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  Speaker 1: It was hilarious. Oh my God. That was so funny.
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  Speaker 2: And that was, you know, that was moments before rigged
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  Speaker 2: for ratings or money. Sorry. I saw it live. We'd
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  Speaker 2: heard around the world. And, but so Steph, it was
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  Speaker 2: already out of the game. It's just the difference between
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  Speaker 2: watching it from the bench or from the locker room.
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  Speaker 2: You just don't see that. super in Luca fouled out again.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't get a technical, didn't get a flagrant fouled
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  Speaker 2: out of a finals game. And Brian Windhorst, who I
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  Speaker 2: adore went on sports center 30 minutes later and read
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  Speaker 2: him the riot act and said like, this is why
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  Speaker 2: you've got them. Like, this is the problem with Luca Donchic.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's so rare to have the discourse immediately be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, from the Wimby perspective, as opposed to, again,
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  Speaker 2: to use weird language, the victim's perspective, I thought was off.
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  Speaker 1: And to be fair to Brian, I saw that Brian
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  Speaker 1: was one of the people who came out and was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you cost your team a win. Yes, he did.
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  Speaker 2: With Victor, right? And Victor's Brian's guy. Brian didn't pull
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  Speaker 2: any punches on that.
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  Speaker 1: So this is what, the thing that I, where the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say lost me here. Like, They
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  Speaker 1: were not going to suspend Victor for game five after
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  Speaker 1: the ejection in game four. So early in game four,
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  Speaker 1: I think that if that had happened halfway through the
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  Speaker 1: third quarter, rather than early in the second, then there
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  Speaker 1: is possibly a suspension because that really was egregious. Like
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  Speaker 1: you got to, Draymond's going too far to me with the,
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  Speaker 1: what if I had done that? Yeah, but that's you.
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  Speaker 1: Like you, you, you, you, you, you make it somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: And now the point could be, you know, it could
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  Speaker 1: be perhaps made, but there's a reason why we don't
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  Speaker 1: let you get away. That's like when our test got
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  Speaker 1: suspended for seven games for that elbow with James Harden,
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  Speaker 1: he'd already helped incite a riot previously.
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  Speaker 2: Right, the better comp is maybe, because I showed the
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  Speaker 2: Artest video and Wilds correctly pointed out, he's like, bro,
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  Speaker 2: that's Artest's fault, fans. He's on lifetime probation.
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  Speaker 1: J.R.
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  Speaker 2: Smith missed a game during the playoffs for a much
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  Speaker 2: less egregious elbow, but to your point, his elbow came
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  Speaker 2: late in the fourth, and so he didn't really get
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  Speaker 2: penalized much there. Can we talk about the Draymond piece
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  Speaker 2: just for a second?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Or do you, I don't want to side.
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  Speaker 2: Do you realize? Does Draymond not remember his own words?
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  Speaker 2: This is the very rough, loose timeline. Draymond almost broke
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  Speaker 2: a teammate's jaw. He then stomped on Sabonis' chest. He
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  Speaker 2: then did a spinning back fist against a different Eastern European.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a Nerkich. He then put Rudy
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  Speaker 2: Gobert in a headlock. He then checked himself into counseling
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  Speaker 2: because he said he had anger problems.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. That's what happened.
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  Speaker 2: So if, yes, if in the midst of all of that,
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  Speaker 2: you had thrown one, you had a fifth incident, of
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  Speaker 2: course it would be looked at differently. And that's what's
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  Speaker 2: so weird. Like Draymond knows that. Draymond's got to on
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  Speaker 2: an intellectual level know my track record is why if
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  Speaker 2: I did this, people would, you know, be calling for
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  Speaker 2: a harsh punishment. I don't, so I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: he pretended not to know that, but go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: He's not like Ndamukong Suh did. You remember Ndamukong Suh
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  Speaker 1: used to do wild shit, and then he's like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you talking about? And we're like, yo, something's wrong
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  Speaker 1: with that guy. That was the only explanation. But where
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  Speaker 1: the NBA lost me was, it seems very, very clear
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  Speaker 1: that the decision was made, we're not going to have
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  Speaker 1: any hanky-panky in this game, right? I'm sorry, but after
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  Speaker 1: Victor elbows somebody and takes him out like that, The
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  Speaker 1: Timberwolves are allowed one good, really hard foul. Right. Like
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  Speaker 1: it's only right. It's only fair. Somebody's supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: able to go in there. And even it's a flagrant one.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine. Some classic Rick Mahorn, Kevin McHale on Kurt Rambis, shit,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. You get to do that. Right. Like
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota being the type of team that they are. The
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  Speaker 1: only way that you're convincing me that nobody, Jaden McDaniels,
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  Speaker 1: whoever it was, that nobody was like, all right, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get this one is if it was not
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  Speaker 1: made very clear to them. Ain't going to be no one.
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  Speaker 1: And there should have been one. The people won.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and that's why I found the way the game
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  Speaker 2: was officiated at the beginning. So outrageous. And again, the
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  Speaker 2: Spurs won by a hundred like that. It didn't determine
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  Speaker 2: the game and the Spurs, the Spurs have lost three
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  Speaker 2: playoff games this year. And it's, you know, one Wimby
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  Speaker 2: missed with a concussion. One Wimby got thrown out. And
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  Speaker 2: I guess, Oh, one was game one of this series
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  Speaker 2: when Wimby wasn't scoring. So they, you know, they, they
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  Speaker 2: right now look, it looks like I was wrong again
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  Speaker 2: in these playoffs that they look like the better team,
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  Speaker 2: but the refs went the other way with how tight
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  Speaker 2: they were calling it early. And with that technical delay
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  Speaker 2: of game, they called on Nas Reed for just jostling Wimby,
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  Speaker 2: which was essentially to me, the way John Goble, who
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  Speaker 2: that John Goble's whole crew, it's just a disaster. The, the,
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  Speaker 2: The way they called that game, it was like they
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  Speaker 2: agreed with Mitch Johnson that, you know what, Wimby has
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  Speaker 2: been getting roughed up. It was, you know, justifiable vigilantism
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to protect him. And that was, that
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  Speaker 2: part was just stunning to me. Like legit stunning.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knows the referees by name like people who put
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  Speaker 1: money on games. I was like, John Goble. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, he must be an official.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Well, so his brother's an official, too. But
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  Speaker 2: Goble is the one that Austin Reeves, with LeBron looking
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  Speaker 2: over his shoulder at the end of the game a
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  Speaker 2: couple games ago when they had the little huddle at midcourt.
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  Speaker 2: And Austin Reeves was basically like, you can't talk to
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  Speaker 2: me like that. That was John Goble. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like.
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  Speaker 2: games officiated by John Goble.
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  Speaker 1: My official knowledge is fading a little bit. Like all
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  Speaker 1: my guys are aging out, you know, aging out or
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  Speaker 1: just moving to the side just a little bit. Like
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  Speaker 1: I used to know more of them by name than
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  Speaker 1: I used to. Let me ask you this though about
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  Speaker 1: the Spurs. Are you surprised at how good they are
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  Speaker 1: separate from Victor? Because I did not expect them to
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  Speaker 1: be top to bottom this good. And I think we
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: are They are really young. Like, De'Aaron Fox is 28.
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  Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes, I want to say, is 32. Everybody else
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  Speaker 1: is 20. And Luke Cornett is 30. Everybody else is
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  Speaker 1: 26 and under.
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  Speaker 2: And their best guys are 22 and under.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm the biggest surprise by me, and this
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  Speaker 2: is maybe, or for me, I should say, maybe just
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  Speaker 2: because I didn't watch enough Rutgers, but I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if anyone's going to hold that against me.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I had no idea Dylan Harper was going to be
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  Speaker 2: this good this quickly. Castle, you saw it at UConn
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  Speaker 2: and you saw it building. And Castle's a legitimately just
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  Speaker 2: excellent defensive player and really good offensive player. But Dylan
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  Speaker 2: Harper looks like he's going to be a superstar. And
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  Speaker 2: for him to be this good in his first playoff run,
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  Speaker 2: I think he's 20 years old, is really stunning. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really interested in, as this draft is coming along, how
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  Speaker 2: last year's top four stacks up against this year's top
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  Speaker 2: four long-term, where you've got Flagg, Harper, Knipple, Edgecombe versus
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  Speaker 2: what we think is going to be the top four
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  Speaker 2: of DeBansa, Peterson, Caleb Wilson, and Cam Boozer in one
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  Speaker 2: order or another. But the Spurs all year, won the
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: non-Wimby minutes. Two of those wins against OKC, Wimby was
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  Speaker 2: on a low minutes restriction. Like they really, they have
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  Speaker 2: nine guys they really, really trust. And as long as
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  Speaker 2: they have Wimby or Cornette on the floor, they have
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  Speaker 2: excellent rim protection. And when Wimby's on the court, they
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  Speaker 2: have maybe the best rim protection in NBA history. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they've been, it's really shocking to me how mature they've
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  Speaker 2: already looked so far this postseason.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I thought that this was a next year
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  Speaker 1: sort of proposition, right? And no, that's not happening. And
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  Speaker 1: as soon as somebody tells Victor Wimbenyama, don't take a
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  Speaker 1: single three for the rest of the season, boy, the
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: sky's the limit once that happens.
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  Speaker 2: So how much of that, so let's circle back to
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  Speaker 2: the skinny guy thing. Because I think the only flaw
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  Speaker 2: in his game, relates or flaws in his game relate
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  Speaker 2: to his body and obviously what makes him so special
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: is you know the length and all of that but
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I think I think because of how cautious they were
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: with him minutes wise in the regular season he is
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: not he doesn't have 40 minute playoff conditioning and I
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: don't think you'll have it anytime this postseason and the
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: threes thing I think is simply because he gets pushed
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: around in the low post. If he comes, if at
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: any point in his career, he doesn't, people always use
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the Giannis comp because Giannis came in so skinny, he's
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: now so big.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that wasn't the same.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: No, and if he got Giannis' body, it's game over
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: for everybody. But if he could just get closer to
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: mature Rudy Gobert size, then I feel like offensively, He
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: won't ever have to shoot another three if he doesn't
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: want to, because the reason he doesn't just live on
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the block is because he can get pushed out of that.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Giannis wasn't skinny for the reasons that I'm
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: skinny because it's just like that. Giannis was malnourished, right?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Like that was legitimately about three squares a day. And
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: then I had never even thought of that. Now that
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I think about how Yance talks about his upbringing and
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: like what they had to do, he just didn't. That's
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a really good point. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, no,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: there's a whole thing, especially in football, with having the
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: ability to identify guys who just never had adequate nutrition.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And those are the guys that go from being 230 pounds,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: maybe coming into school and then turn into being 315.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And it's really just a matter of three squares and
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: an adequate like workout program. And that was the thing
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that happened with Giannis. With Victor, that hasn't been the issue, right?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: They've got to figure this out a different way. I
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: do want to say, ask you to do this about
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the Spurs before we get out of here I had
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: largely believed that De'Aaron Fox was a guy who played
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: losing basketball and now I don't even think it matters
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: because he has he wanted to be there to play
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: with this guy and he sees what that means and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: now all he really has to do is De'Aaron Fox
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: things and throw it throw oops and the team is
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: fine I just want you to tell the people about
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the first time you saw De'Aaron Fox play basketball so.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: My son, who is my co-host on What's Right with
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Nick Wright, was a big-time high school basketball prospect. Not
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: on De'Aaron Fox's level, but a mid-to-high-major D1 prospect.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 6'8, Texas high school, first team, all-district junior. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Like, legit. And so he... He played on the same
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: summer league team as Quentin Grimes, who Grimes' sidebar was
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: two years younger than everyone on the team and was
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: just so clearly a pro at 15 years old. But
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: we also traveled around Texas in the summer to these
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: AAU tournaments. And one time I walk into a gym
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: and there's De'Aaron Fox's team is just starting. And this,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: you know, my, I feel like every time I tell
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: this story, Maybe it gets a little more exaggerated, but
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I swear I saw him score 40 points in the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: first half of a running clock AAU basketball game because
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: he's just so much faster than everyone. He's got the
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: ball and got a layup. They pressed get a steal
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: ball layup, and he was.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Even if my stats are a little off because I,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: because I know I've always said it was 40 points
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: in the first half of running clock AU game. But
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: every time I say it, I'm like, that doesn't even
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: seem fucking possible, but I know I saw it. But
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: he is to this day, the fastest person I've ever seen,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: like on the court up close and personal. And so
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I always, and then he went to Sacramento and you know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: my wife's family's from Sacramento and, So I always, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: had a soft spot for him and liked him. I
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: really thought that the one light, the beam year, they
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: were going to beat the Warriors. I still think they
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: would have. People forget he broke his finger in game
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: five and it threw off that series a bit. But
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I thought it was really, to your point, mature of
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: him when he's getting out of Sacramento to say most guys,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: if they've spent their career in one small market, don't
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: want to go to another. He went Sacramento to San
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Antonio and, and it was because he clocked that he
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: wanted to play with Victor. Now, with that said, what
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: kind of sucks for him is if they don't win
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: the championship, he's the most likely trade piece because of
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: the salary that, you know, they could use his salary
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: to get a star if they wanted or, you know,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: some maneuverability. But, yeah, I mean, he's the veteran presence
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: on the team with seven career playoff games prior to
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Ian Harrison Barnes.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: It's those two guys. Now, before we get to the break,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I just want to ask you one thing about the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Cavs and Raptors. And I think it's the only question
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: that matters here. And this is even after Donovan Mitchell
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: just put up 39 points in one half. The only
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: question that matters is, can they win this series without
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Jim Harden messing the whole thing up?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. And I... It is.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: It's whenever James Harden, cause he was very good at
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the end of game three and he was solid throughout
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: game four in this piston series. And obviously the story
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: of game four is Donovan Mitchell going full sleepy Floyd
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: with 39 in the second half. Every time he has
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: either a good or solid or excellent playoff game, people come,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: come for me. And they're like, what do you have
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: to say now? And I'm, I'm stunned. It might just
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: be intentional. People know they're wrong, but they think it's
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to troll. No one has ever argued that
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: James Harden doesn't have great playoff games. He has a
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: ton of great playoff games. This is not an instance of,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: it's not, with respect, Julius Randle. a player who just
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: every year the playoffs come and he goes from fringe
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: all-star to almost unplayable. The argument with Harden is he
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: will at least once and very often twice a series
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: have such an unspeakably bad performance that you will wonder,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: is he concussed? What's happening? Does he... Is he okay?
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: And so James Harden playing well when his team's down
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: 2-0 or 2-1 is not a shocker. It's the game fives, sixes,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: and sevens, or what we saw when the series is
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: in the balance is where you just know a two
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: for 11 is coming. You don't know when it's coming,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: but a three for nine or two for 11. And
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: so because of that, I think the Pistons are safe.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: With that said, Jalen Duren averaging 20 and 10 all
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: year and now having, and he's played in two long
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: series now, having one playoff game with more than 12
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: points is wild. The fact that Orlando and Cleveland and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: their depth, and I'm sorry, in their front line, I mean,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: he has scored 15, he had 15 and 15 in
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: that game seven, which was awesome. But that's his playoff
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: high this year, and every other game's 12 or less.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: The Pistons have to get more from him unless Harden's
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: just going to give it to him.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I say Cavs-Raptors, and obviously it's Cavs-Pistons. Two thoughts on that. One,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: it's one thing if you're Duren and you play the
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: type of game you play and Wendell Carter can body
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: up with you and he can stop you, right? Yes.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: It's another thing when the tall boys from Cleveland are
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: doing it because the criticism they've had with them for
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: years is that they're not big. They're just tall. They're
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: really good, too. But the question has always been whether
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you could have both of them.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Like Evan Mobley, what Carl Towns is doing right now
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: for the Knicks tells you in a lot of ways
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: what you can maybe get out of Evan Mobley if
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: he was just a little bigger. Put him at the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: high post, run the offense through him. He can do
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: all those things, but he's just not sturdy enough. Those
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: are the people that Durant should feast on, and he's not.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: And that's what he feasted on. What's crazy is that's
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: why he's going to be second team All-NBA, because he
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: feasted on it all year long. He stepped his game
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: up when Cade went down. And so that has been
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: really disappointing and surprising. I assumed, I guess totally incorrectly,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: that he was a guy, I thought he had very
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: little chance, Bo, of being like a playoff riser. Like
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: this guy's 20-10 in the regular season. We're coming to playoffs,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: he's 25-12. Didn't seem like he had that type of game.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: But I also thought he was going to be kind
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: of inoculated from being a playoff dropper. I just thought
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: he was going to give you what he always gives you.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: And if they're going to get out of this series,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: he has to get back to who he was in
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: the regular season. And that, by the way, probably concludes
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the Cavs-Pistons discussion for, you know, not just your podcast.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to make the TV
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: show this week. I'm just telling you that it is
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: not that captivating of a series.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: The long-run question we're going to have is... if James
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Harden is becoming playoff unplayable. And that happens to guys
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: who are regular season playable. Montrezl Harrell became playoff unplayable.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And that's why he is somewhere hilariously speaking another language.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Enos Kanter. It's why he's trying to ruin the country.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: He had to find a different grift. Yeah.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: You get to a place where you can't play. You
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: just can't play the seven games.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: So on that note, because I am interested in this.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Harden has a $ 42 million player option. The assumption from
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: everyone was that Cavs, you know, when they traded for him,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: had agreed he's going to opt out and they will
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: extend him. I don't think if you're Cleveland, you can
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: do that. Year 18, Jim Harden?
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Say it again? Year 18, Jim Harden.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think you can do that. Even at a
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: lower number. So does... Does Harden opt in? Because you
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: don't ever see stars opt in to player options.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: No.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: But if I'm Harden, I don't know where I'm getting
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: anywhere close to $ 40 million. I mean, I guess there
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: might be a team that says, we just want, because
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: in the regular season, he is still super valuable. He
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: raises your floor. He plays all the time. He's durable.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: he helped stimulate your city's nightclub economy. There's a lot
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: of good things to having James Harden in the regular season. Um,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: but I'm really curious what he does with that player option.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I'm also curious because I think that might have a
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: little bit of an impact on where we see LeBron James.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now last thing before we go into break about
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: that series, it is the most aggressive Tobias Harris that
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And I just want to take this
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: moment to point out that Tobias Harris, um, At the
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: end of this contract, this is his last year of
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: his contract, he has made over $ 300 million in the
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: NBA and has received literally one third team All-NBA vote
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: his whole career. No all-star team, no all-defense team, no
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: six-man of the year, no votes for any of these things,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and $ 300 million. Brother, we salute you.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Tobias Harris was... First Things First started in September of 2017,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: and he was one of our first-ever in-studio NBA guests.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: It was that season or right after that season that...
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I just remember him being in there. And he was
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: just about to get his second contract extension. Like, second
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: big contract. He had gotten one already. That was nine
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: years ago. And with everything that you're saying... He, after
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: not having back-to-back 20-point games all year, had seven straight
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: recently in the playoffs. He's been absolutely, from the 3-1
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: down in Orlando to the 2-0 lead against Cleveland, he
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: has been the Pistons' second-best player, which is, you know, again,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: goes back to the Durant stuff. And also, Osar Thompson's
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: having a rough series. But it's a testament to him who,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: you know, this was my guy, you know, the now-fired
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Daryl Morey. This was his vision with him in Philly.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yep, I'd say. Coming up next, we'll talk about LeBron
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: James and where we go from here with him on
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• 32:05
  Speaker 1: All right, we are back with Nick Wright. We mentioned briefly,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I want to take some LeBron, the time
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: to get into this LeBron thing. But I was talking
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: to a buddy of mine in Philly about, I wonder
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: what Daryl's going to do now to fix the team.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: And they're like, what makes you think Daryl's going to
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: be the one to do these things? And then I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: looked up and Daryl Morey got fired. And I got
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: to say, like, he did well in the draft. You know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest Daryl guy, but I don't feel
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: like what happened to this team is Daryl's fault.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing that is... And these were sports
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: a little unfair a couple ways. And again, I am
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: a big Darryl guy. I like him a lot personally.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I don't pretend to be fully unbiased on this. I
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: have a relationship with the guy. But I try to
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: be fair and transparent about it. And there were obvious... Listen,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: he went... Joel Embiid has a three-year $ 190 million extension
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: that hasn't kicked in. Paul George... up until recently, looked
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: like he might have the worst contract in the league.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: George ascended enough at the end where maybe that stabilized
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: to a degree. There are some really big, you know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: you'd like things that haven't gone right. And so people
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: get fired for that. Like, I don't think it's outrageous
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that they fired him. What I do think is wildly
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: unfair to me is he is getting annihilated for Jared
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: McCain playing well for Oklahoma City when it is so
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: clear he got a mandate from ownership to get under
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: the luxury tax, and that's why they traded Jared McCain.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: So they got a first-round pick in four seconds for
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Jared McCain. He said he thought they were selling high.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: You then see the guy just shooting flames out his
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: ass from three against the Lakers, and it's like, man,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: we sure could have used him. But that was something... he,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: you know, I, no GM wants to just give away
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: a player and get no player in return when you're
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: trying to win right there. And you're going to be
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: judged on right there. And you say, you know, drafted. Well,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: the maxi pick and development is one of the best
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: draft accomplishments of the last decade. He was, where was,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to check real quick. Uh, where was Maxie taken?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I know he was, was he late lottery? No, he
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: wasn't even in the lottery. I want to say he
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: was like early twenties, right?
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: He was 21st pick and he's one of the 15
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: best players in the league. And so, and you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: people are killing him on the McCain thing. The flip,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the opposite of the McCain thing was stealing Quentin Grimes
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: from Dallas. But you know, it, let me ask you
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: this and then we can do LeBron just quickly. If
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: they had just lost game seven to Boston, down 3-1,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: get it to game seven and lose, as opposed to
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: winning that game and then getting curb stomped by the Knicks,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's fired. I think if it's like, oh,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: we got unlucky with the Embiid appendectomy, we kind of
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: acquitted ourselves well in this series, no one gave us
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: a chance, but because they won it, And people got
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: their hopes up and then they just get eviscerated. Now
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: he's fired. So I don't know.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think what did him in ultimately is
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: going to be the thing to do him in is
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the embeding station that every single one of us would
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: have signed and be to. There was really no other option.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: No choice.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were too good. They were too good to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: tear it down. Like, I think that's the part to
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: be fair to him is they were too good to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: tear him down. But also Daryl's a dude making a
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: shitload of money from a guy that did not hire
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: him in the first place, who I'm sure has his
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: own numbers walk he thinks can do this but let's
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: talk about LeBron with the Lakers I am inclined to
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: agree with you I think the LeBron time in LA
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: has been a little weird and I don't know how
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: good it's felt for Lakers fans but I do think
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that people have forgotten what an irrelevant franchise they were
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: before LeBron showed up like they're definitely better for the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: time that he spent there they won a championship I
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: thought it was going to go a little better than
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: it has but I can't say it's gone poorly, right?
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: It's also a new era of the NBA where parody
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: has been kind of mandated by regulation in the cap
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: and everything else. But I have no idea what is
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the move for him at this point. I don't know
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: if I'm running a team, if what, it's kind of
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: like when Barry Bonds became available in 07. Now the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: difference is nobody liked Barry Bonds. Barry Bonds was one
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: of the 10 best players in baseball and nobody picked
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: him up because they just decided there wasn't a good
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: fit for him in a place um you have suggested
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: if i'm not mistaken you tell me if i'm wrong
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: here that the knicks would be a great place for
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: lebron and i thought you liked us being friends because
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: i just don't know how it would be possible to
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: be around you if new york if lebron is actually
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: in new york city.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I think listen i do think that assuming the knicks
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: don't win the championship i think that the if they
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: win the championship it's moot i i think the knicks
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: would be a good fit i can i Real quick,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: before we look forward, can we look back on the...
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Because I'm... I am dismayed at not only the revisionist
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: history about LeBron's tenure with the Lakers, but the revisionist...
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's contemporary analysis, I guess. LeBron James,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: in his time with the Lakers... the Lakers had as
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: much team success as the Nuggets have had in Nikola
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Jokic's entire career and the Bucs had in Giannis' entire career.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: One finals trip, one championship, one other deep playoff run,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: and that's it. Would anyone in the world argue that
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: that the Yokeage Nuggets era has been a failure. The
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Bucs-Yannis era has been a failure. Of course not. And
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: when LeBron got to the Lakers, nobody was saying, oh,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: he's about to win a bunch of championships there. It was,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: he's 34. It's the Western Conference. They have been the
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: worst team in the league for six years. It was, it, it,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: The expectations from the general public were low, and within
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: two years, they're champions. And the next year, they're the
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Vegas favorite to repeat until Solomon Hill somersaults into his ankle.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And so I just... I think LeBron's time with the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Lakers was a huge success, and I don't know how
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: anyone can read it any way differently.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I did think that... I think the read is... I
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: don't think it's been unsuccessful. I think it's fair if
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: one has found it to be a bit disappointing, right?
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Because Jokic and his team having that run comes with
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Jokic exceeding our initial expectations for him. The Giannis tenure,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I think, is actually interesting because it has some terribly
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: embarrassing postseason flameouts that we do not really hold against him. Again,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: because I think the expectations that we started with were
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: just a little bit different. I just... Did you read
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: yaron weisman's book uh um i've not.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Read the whole thing i i have it and i
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: need to read the whole thing i've not.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah it's it's a good read um and i
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: think it kind of just speaks to it's been an
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: awkward time period for him there just because he showed
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: up into the land of Kobe staying, right? Like, I
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody has, I think everybody underestimated what the
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: awkwardness would be for him simply being on the Lakers.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I think that's true. It's also been awkward because for
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: the last four years, the team has operated as if
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: they are annoyed. He isn't worse. They have operated as
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: if we had a plan that, For by 2022, for
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: you to be washed adjacent, and so we can move on,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: and so they have just been stuck in neutral. And
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: that's why, when they got Luka, and... everyone's like, well,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: you need a lot of time, a whole offseason or more,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: to build, to get the right types of players to
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: play around Luka. That would be true for about 26 teams.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: You know the one team it shouldn't be true for?
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: The guy who Luka modeled his fucking game after in LeBron.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: You know what players you need to have around Luka?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: The exact players you need to have around old LeBron.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: And so that part's been frustrating. So I, yeah, I mean,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I think that to move forward, I understand if he
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: wants to stay with the Lakers. That would bum me
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: out because I don't, I understand he is not, if LeBron,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: at this point in his career, if LeBron's your best player,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: you're not winning the championship. So he's in a different
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: part of his career and he needs to go somewhere
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: where someone else can be, you know, the highest usage.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I get that. But the delta between that and taking
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: a full-time backseat at the end of his career to
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Austin Reeves is too big for me. I enjoyed watching
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: this LeBron playoff run, as brief as it was, because
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: we got to see hand on the joystick in full
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: control LeBron again. And so I think Cleveland, if they
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: move on from Harden, with Donovan being the number one
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: scorer and best player, but LeBron kind of controlling the offense,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: or The Knicks are interesting if they, like say the
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Knicks make the finals and just get waxed in the finals,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: losing five and it's bad. Then I do think a LeBron,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Mikael Bridges sign and trade, because Bridges is the exact
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: type of player you need alongside Luka, is, and the
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Knicks might be, you know, not, the Knicks might like
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: the idea of having a shorter contract in that salary
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: spot I think that could make a lot of sense
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: for a lot of people.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I think there appears to be a huge difference between
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: 82 game Austin Reeves and seven game Austin Reeves. And
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: the Lakers need to be very, very careful about what
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: they ultimately decide to do with him, because I think
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: there's a ride high with him because he has exceeded
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: all expectations that anybody has had. But he is not granted.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: There's been an injury factor this year, but he has
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: not been the same player in the postseason this year
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: or last year. as to what he had been previously.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: That's where the Lakers, I think, have themselves in a
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: bit of a bind.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know what they're going to do
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: because he's a true unrestricted free agent and the Nets
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: will just offer him the max. Yeah. So maybe he'll
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: take a little less to stay with the Lakers. And
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I think he wants to stay with the Lakers and
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: he and Luke have an amazing relationship. He and Brown
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: have a great relationship, but I don't know if Brown
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: will be there. But listen, this is... Austin Reeves has
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: improved so much each and every year from undrafted to
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: where he is. I'm not going to put a ceiling
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: on what he can do next because he's earned the
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: right to say he's gotten better in every way. But
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, this goes back to the theme of today's show,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: my overall skepticism of skinny athletes. I have a huge
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: problem with professional basketball players who don't have defined muscular
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: structure in their arms.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: The Paul Pierce class of player.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Well, at least Paul was big. But yes, to the...
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: And for Paul, I have no idea how much that
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: level of alcohol consumption affects your body type. But Austin
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: has to get stronger. He might not be able to
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: get faster. He can get stronger. And OKC bullied him.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And so this offseason... He doesn't have to come back
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: full Caruso where it looks like, you know, he's had
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: a body transformation, but he needs to get stronger. And
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: if I'm the Lakers, I'm going to be paying him
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: $ 50 million a year. I need him to come back
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: looking a little more Jack.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair. I think it's fair, right? Because
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: he's not even, it's not even just that he's not Jack.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: He's not Jack and he don't never have no professional haircut. Yeah.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: That's the white guy from Arkansas thing. I give him
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: a pass on that.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no. He's been playing basketball too long, man.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Any white man in the NBA who still lets white
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: people cut his hair, I know who you voted for.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Like obviously you have not immersed yourself in. He has
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: not immersed himself in the culture. If you can't go,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: go get you a haircut with the other cats, you know,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: you could do better than this. I know Luca. I
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: don't think Luca's still letting a white man cut his hair.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: He from a whole nother country that ain't got black
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: people in.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: My guess is it is a white guy cutting his hair,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: but it's a white guy from Eastern Europe with the, like,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: listen the mean streets of Slovenia got more in common
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: with Camden New Jersey than you think like the tough
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: parts of Eastern Europe had on a swivel like and
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: so so I don't know who's cutting Luca's hair but
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I know that there's a lot going on in the
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: back of that business.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah no no I talked to a buddy of
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: mine he talked about he's been over there one of
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: them countries he's like 30-story buildings with window units, baby.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: They over there keeping your head above water. Learning the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: breaks when you can't. That's where they are. But no, if...
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: It's so interesting with LeBron in this place because... He's
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: still good enough to be good. I know that sounds obvious,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: but I can't think of any other way to put
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it right. He's still good enough to be good. He's
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: not good enough to be your number one option. He
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: did a much better job off the ball as a
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: tertiary figure than I thought that he could have or
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: would have been down to. I'm just kind of like. hey, brother,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you don't have to keep on doing this. And I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: guess he wants to, but, like, the Lakers seem like,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: for what his future ambitions seem to be, the perfect
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: place to go ahead and move into retirement, right? Like,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: we've seen guys do that. Will Chamberlain is a great example,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: where you wrap your career with the Lakers and then
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: you become an L.A. fixture from then on out. That
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: seems like the play, but that's easy for me to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: say because I'm not the one who can still play
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: basketball really well and get $ 40, $ 50 million a year
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: for it. So.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: it is so fascinating because the other element of this is, is,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: has Bronny improved enough that in the, depending on the
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Lakers off season goes, Bronny, Bronny is going to be
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: like their ninth man in the rotation. And if, if
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: he has the question, I would, if he has improved enough,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: the question I would then have is, For LeBron, is
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: there an element of, I'll bring up my podcast for
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the second time. If Netflix came to me and was like, hey,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: we'll triple what you make doing the pod, but it's
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: just solo. It's just you, your son's not in it.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I think I would say not interested. Like my entire
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: enjoyment out of it comes from doing it with him.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: There might be a part of LeBron that the thing
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: that is most fun to him was those playoff minutes
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: with Bronny and the idea of having real regular season
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: minutes with him might trump all of it. Flip side
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: of that is Bronny might, if he has earned his
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: way into the rotation, I don't know if he has
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: or not, he might feel the exact opposite. He might
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: be like, no, I want to do this on my own.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: So there's that piece of it. There is the financial
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: piece of it. There is the fact that the Lakers,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: when it looked like in January that LeBron finally had
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: fallen off the cliff, Baxter Holmes has that article where
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Jeannie Buss is, you know, through sources or whatever, basically
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: saying how annoyed she's been the last couple of years
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: of the LeBron era. And that seemed to legitimately hurt
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: LeBron's feelings. So there's that piece of it. Then there's
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: also the, if he wants to win another championship as
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: a key piece, where is the best place for him?
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to throw out one that I do
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: not think is likely, but it piqued my antenna when
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: a month and a half ago, McMiniman included them in
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: his article about where LeBron could go. Because the team
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: is owned by one of his friends. Because the team
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: has on his coaching staff another one of his friends.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: And it is your Denver Nuggets, Bo.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I see the vision.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: And that is a fact.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Now, it'd be weird.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Seeing LeBron finish his career in Denver, I think, objectively,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: would be weird. But because they got beaten round one...
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't look you know and because they appear to
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: be stuck like i don't know how they get back
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: to contention level that would be interesting and then the
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: one team we haven't talked about of course is golden
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: state but they that would just be like a almost
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: harlem globetrotters like come see the attraction you're not winning anything.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: There and they don't like you man The fans. That
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: is a great point.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: The fans do not like you.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: You'd be doing the same thing you just did, but
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: even to a different degree. Like, the Lakers fans had
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: a rivalry with you that kind of didn't really exist, right? Like,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: you know, you go to the Warriors, they don't like you.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure how much the guys on the team,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they respect you. Not sure how much they
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: really like you. And Playing with Steph, man, in the
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: nature of that offense and everything else, that is a
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: taxing way to play basketball.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's right. No, that's true. But the most important
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: point is the first one you made, that the fans
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: acted like the best thing that happened to Warriors fans
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: all year long was OKC sweeping LeBron. They had a
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: brief moment of, holy shit, is he going to blow
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: a 3-0 lead? But a lot of their, the last
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: few years when Steph Curry hasn't been a real fixture
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: of the postseason, their postseason enjoyment has been watching LeBron
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: come up short. That's a good point.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, this is like, it's amazing that he can
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: continue to play this long. but people are not supposed
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: to play basketball this long, right? Like it's just, it is,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: it is exceeded all our understandings of the, like the
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: lifespan of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a result of his, whatchamacallit,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: stealing all his money, right? And his house flooding out
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: and everything else. Otherwise he doesn't keep playing this long,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: but again, nobody's been as good as long as LeBron has.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: So what do you do? So that is the thing,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: because it is, it's almost like, I don't know enough
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: about the Greek tragedies, but I'm sure there's a good
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: comp for this or maybe a Twilight Zone episode or something.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: The curse of you'll never be bad.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Like you'll never be forced. Play your way out of
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: the league.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: And apparently you'll never have a terrible injury.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: You'll never be bad. Whenever you decide to stop, you
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: will truly be deciding to stop, not forced to stop, not,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: and that's a, so this is why I said, I
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: think he's playing 25 years. I think he's playing two more.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to do a, a, a true
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: quarter century of NBA basketball as the final, you know,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: line on his resume.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like Michael Jordan suffered his first serious soft tissue
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: injury in Washington. Yeah. And I haven't read this book.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Joel Anderson has read it. He talks about it all
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the time. I forget the name of it, but it's
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: a book about Jordan's time in Washington. And how miserable
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: it was?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: And it's like Etan Thomas looking at Jordan with the
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: ice packs on and just being like, why are you
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: doing this? But the answer seemed pretty clear. He was
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: doing this because he thought the Wizards were his team,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and then Apollyon shit-canned him right after, right? But it
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: was like, you don't have to do this. Why are
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: you doing this? And, like, Wizards' Jordan was a very
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: good basketball player. Obviously wasn't a Michael Jordan-level basketball player.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: He was a good player.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was still a really... He was still a, like,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: legitimate all-star-level player. You needed to figure out what you
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: were going to do with him, and there was always
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: a possibility on a given night he could give you 40. LeBron...
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: is physically sturdier than that. And LeBron has this computer
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: up here. So even if his body slows down, he'll
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: always be able to figure it out. And so, yeah,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: you're right. He may wind up out here playing for
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: 25 years. I just wonder how much fun it is
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: for him at this point to keep doing this.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: It's, it's really, it's really fascinating. I just looked it
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: up because I knew the book as well when nothing
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: else matters.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Is the book on Jordan's time in Washington. Um, Yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: And the other, the other piece of it that, and
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: he mentioned it, and I do think this will really
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: matter is what Savannah and Zuri want him to do.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Like the, I mean, it's so, I remember one of
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: the like little soft reasons that people thought he left
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Miami was because Riley spoiled, Riley revealed that Savannah was
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: having another baby. Um, Like, before the family had revealed it.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: It was intentional, obviously. It just, like, kind of slipped out.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: It was at the exit press conference in 14.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: That baby's now 11 years old.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: He left Miami 11 and a half years ago. Like,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: it's just... It is truly... Austin Reeves is one of
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: his longest tenured teammates ever. Yeah. And so... He really
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: has been with the Lakers a long-ass time, and whenever
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: he walks away, he'll truly be walking away. The comp
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: would have been Brady, but Brady's last year in Tampa,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: he wasn't good. And he was 46 years old. It
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: was absurd how good he was so long. But the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: year before his last year in Tampa, he almost won
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: NFL MVP. I think he led the league in passing.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: But then his final year in Tampa, they were 8-9,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: and you finally saw it. So I don't know. I
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: really don't know what he's.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Going to do. I just know if he comes to
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: New York. Man. It's just going to be too much. Look,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: it's about to be enough already with the Knicks actually
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: being good, right?
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Here's my thing if he comes to New York, Bo.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: What's the upper bound of how much money I'm going
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: to spend on tickets? I don't know that there is one.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Cause I don't get free tickets. The Knicks don't, I
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: don't know. Like the people assume like the, the, I've
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: never gotten a single free ticket from the Knicks, by
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: the way, Knicks, if you're watching, I'll take them. Um, I, the,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: but I, so I buy my tickets, you know, like
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: everybody and Knicks tickets are so exorbitantly expensive. And that
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: if they were to get Braun, I don't know, man, I'd,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: That fancy car I got, I might sell.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: No, because you every now and then will actually pay
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: for Knicks tickets and I will not. Like I'm just,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: it's like if somebody, our guy compliment, he's got great seats.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: If he calls me to go, okay, cool. Or like
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: somebody gets the Viacom seats, I might pull up. I
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: refuse to pay Knicks ticket prices. What they say is
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: maybe you just get in right before the game starts,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: but I need a little bit more certainty in my life.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying?
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: By the way, quickly, before we go, speaking of our
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: friend compliment, Because I know he'll watch this and I
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: haven't talked to him in a bit. He's very busy.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: He's very busy because he has created a new television
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: show based in Las Vegas about Vegas gangsters. And I
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: am here to tell you, I have not spent as
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: many hours as I have. In Vegas, I have not
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: grown my hair out as I have to not get
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: a cameo as some sleazy Vegas gangster. Like, Brian, I'm available.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the SAG rules are, but I'll
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: do it for free. I need to show up in
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: that show.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: That reminds me, I just got a residuals check for
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: my cameo appearance in Billions.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You were great in Billions and
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: you played Bomani Jones.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: You want to be somebody.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I don't need a line. I just want to be
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: one of, I can be a guy that gets thrown
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: into a dumpster for not paying a debt.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I don't care. I want to be in a Vegas monster.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: But that's what I was about to say. Just so
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: we're clear, Nick doesn't want to play himself. He wants
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: to play a Las Vegas degenerate who is not Nick Wright.
• 58:02
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