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Speaker 1: cap Podcast. I believe episode number thirty three, but I
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Speaker 1: Blutley Cab Podcast. Man, we got the homie Jay Stone
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Speaker 1: in here. Welcome. What's up? What's up? What's up? Man?
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Speaker 1: What's up? Cav Hey? Yeoh we chilling man? Listen to
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Speaker 1: your new album. The definition of pain is uh is? Well,
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Speaker 1: look what's today? This is gonna release when this the
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Speaker 1: album is out? All right? Bet so the album is
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Speaker 1: out a great body of work. Man. You know, I
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Speaker 1: got to appreciate you sending it over early so I
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Speaker 1: could tap in with it. Man. Definitely a very personal project.
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Speaker 1: I feel like, obviously with the title, Man, kind of
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Speaker 1: give us a little window into your thought process behind
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Speaker 1: naming the album what you named it. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: you know Nick really gave it these titles. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. With the definition of loyalty, Yeah, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, I let him hear
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Speaker 1: a lot of songs and shit before I even drop
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Speaker 1: the definition of LOALTI and Bro. It's like, Man, just
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Speaker 1: based on the stories and you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: you're giving the g CODs on shit. And you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, man, your album should be called
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Speaker 1: the Definition of Loyalty. You know what I'm saying, because
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Speaker 1: what I'm getting from these records is like loyalty shit
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Speaker 1: like that. You feel me? And he like, Man, your
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Speaker 1: next album should be the definition of of something else.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, pain, sacrifice, success, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just got to start thinking about
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Speaker 1: all that shit. I'm like, that's a nigga life right there, though,
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Speaker 1: if you think about it. Yeah, you you know, early
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Speaker 1: on in the project you're talking, you know, for people
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Speaker 1: who don't know, kind of give us the background. You
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Speaker 1: lost your mom and you were three years old. She
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Speaker 1: was young. I think you said she was twenty five.
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Speaker 1: She was only twenty five, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And I was only three. So your auntie helped raise you. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: my auntie. You know what I'm saying, which was her sister.
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Speaker 1: What happened with your mom? Why did you pass up early?
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Speaker 1: If you don't want to share a shit the police, man,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was nineteen eighty nine.
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Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. Uh, the cracked epidemic was crazy.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The police force in the
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Speaker 1: streets was crazy. You know what I'm saying. It was
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Speaker 1: just a war on drugs, you feel me. So any
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Speaker 1: anybody out there that was selling or using there was
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Speaker 1: a target period. You know what I'm saying, You go
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Speaker 1: to jail, get killed in the process of that shit.
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Speaker 1: So your mom was killed during an interaction with the cops. Yeah, man, shit, man,
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Speaker 1: she got pulled over on some shit. Man, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And shit, I don't think she wants
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Speaker 1: to go to jail. You feel me. She probably talked
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Speaker 1: to him crazy, probably resisted the arrest or some shit
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Speaker 1: who knows he's crazy too, Because like we think about
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Speaker 1: police brutality, and however, the last like seven eight years,
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Speaker 1: it's been so magnified in social media. Yeah, but it's
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Speaker 1: crazy because when you go back and you watch like
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Speaker 1: you know, obviously not being from la I'm from Phoenix,
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Speaker 1: but like watching like you know, the Menace to societies,
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Speaker 1: the boys in the hoods, and like the way the
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Speaker 1: cops were portrayed in those movies. It's like almost like
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Speaker 1: it was worse back then and there was no cameras. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was worse back then. Like they fabricated how the
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Speaker 1: police really act in the movies and like like like
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Speaker 1: they dumbed it down. They done, they dumbed that shit down,
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Speaker 1: but they over exaggerated how niggas programmed in the streets.
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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. The streets was turned up, Like,
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but you know, like the movies,
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Speaker 1: they made it a little bit dramatic, you feel what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, how like you know, at three years old,
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Speaker 1: I don't remember much from three years old obviously, Like
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Speaker 1: what was that like though? Kind of like you know,
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Speaker 1: like how did your family kind of what you were
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Speaker 1: getting older? Like you know what I'm saying, Like, how
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Speaker 1: do they kind of let you know what happened? Because
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Speaker 1: that's kind of a tough thing to tell a kid
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Speaker 1: on this is what happened to you know. Look, so
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Speaker 1: that's why I kept getting like different stories. You feel
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I had to put this ship together
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Speaker 1: because I would ask, you know what I'm saying, my auntie,
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Speaker 1: I asked, you know what I'm saying, A cousin or
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Speaker 1: uncle or somebody, and I get all different stories, right
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Speaker 1: because because you're a kid, they don't want to probably
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Speaker 1: either spare my feelings or they didn't even know you
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Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. So it was just I was
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Speaker 1: getting different stories. So like the three different stories I got,
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Speaker 1: I put them all together, and you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Came down to the bottom of that ship and I
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Speaker 1: asked my granddaddy like, hey, man, this, like did this happen?
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Speaker 1: He like, that's exactly what happened. You feel what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: because they telling me she this, she dad, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So once I got the real my
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Speaker 1: granddaddy was like, man, that's exactly what happened, Like, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So for people who obviously kind
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Speaker 1: of break down like the section of l A you're from, Like,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think anybody who's fans and nip and
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Speaker 1: are already tapped in with your movement kind of already
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Speaker 1: understand where you're from. But like for people who are
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Speaker 1: watching this who don't know, kind of like give us
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Speaker 1: a background on what part of LA you're from. I'm
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Speaker 1: from LA. I'm from South Central you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: the Crenshaw district. You know what I'm saying. I grew
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Speaker 1: up on eighth Ave, you know what I'm saying, went
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Speaker 1: the Hyde Park Elementary, went to Crenshaw High, Washington High.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's crazy because because Crenshaw
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Speaker 1: High has become like a cultural like landmark, you know.
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Speaker 1: And I know Nip had a lot to do with that,
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Speaker 1: like even back to when he had those pony shoes
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Speaker 1: and they were the blue and the yellow and yeah,
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Speaker 1: hell yeah, yeah, hell yeah. Man. Crenshaw. Crenshaw itself, man,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, got a history within itself.
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Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, And and and and Nip
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Speaker 1: and Nip. You know what I'm saying. He just recreated
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Speaker 1: the history of it. You know what I'm saying. We
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Speaker 1: had history then with the Darryl Starberry and of course
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and all that, and yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: it brought that ship back to life, bro in no
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Speaker 1: worldwide international scale, like you know what I'm saying. You say, Nip,
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Speaker 1: you got out of jail, and Nip put you on
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Speaker 1: the beat as soon as you got out. Soon I
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Speaker 1: came on so give us a little background on your
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Speaker 1: relationship with Nip How y'all how you guys originally linked
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Speaker 1: up and obviously for you to get out of jail
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Speaker 1: and then automatically, you know, be tapped in with it
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Speaker 1: with the with the homie, Like like, give us, give
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Speaker 1: us a little background on that man. Hell yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean ship. When I got out of jail and ship
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Speaker 1: man Bro came and picked me up. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying from jail. He like, Bro, Man, we can
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Speaker 1: we could do whatever. Well, shit, what year wasn't it
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Speaker 1: like he didn't been in jail so many times? He's
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Speaker 1: like every time? Everyway year we talking about what we
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Speaker 1: talk about? Twenty thirteen when I finally got my shit together,
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Speaker 1: came home January twenty thirteen with a plan, with a
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Speaker 1: plan not to go back and just get it. You
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Speaker 1: stay in the studio, you feel me. So Bro asked
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Speaker 1: me what I want to do. He said that I
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Speaker 1: don't want to go some hose nigga. We go get
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Speaker 1: on the helicopter, we go do whatever. You feel what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm like, Bro, take me straight to the studio. Wow,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we went straight to
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Speaker 1: the studio. That's crazy, cracking. He threw me on the beat.
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Speaker 1: We got cracking and there You're right, Yo, it's crazy
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Speaker 1: because like what you just said is like you've been
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Speaker 1: like you, you've been to jail multiple times, and there
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Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, you finally kind of was like, Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of a lot of Like
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Speaker 1: I have cousins who have been in and out of
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Speaker 1: jail NonStop their whole life, right, and it's like a
10:29
Speaker 1: lot of it it's hard to get someone to really
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Speaker 1: understand why they they're in that position over and over again.
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Speaker 1: A lot of it has to do with the people
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Speaker 1: you surround yourself with, the circumstances you choose to be around.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Because after a while
10:43
Speaker 1: they think, yo, ass dumb. They'd be like, man, this
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Speaker 1: niggas stupid. This nigga like jail or something. Why this
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Speaker 1: nigga keep going back? Yeah? Like what Likestand I would
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Speaker 1: ask you, like, what is some advice you give somebody
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Speaker 1: who has that problem? Because there are people who are
10:54
Speaker 1: good people who just keep getting wrapped up. And you
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Speaker 1: know that the cycle of just going in and out
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Speaker 1: of jail every couple of years. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: to be honest, To be honest with niggas, man like
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Speaker 1: on some real shit. The system is set up for
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Speaker 1: a nigga to stay in there to go back. You
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Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying, Like they be pulling fifteen year
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Speaker 1: olds over you know what I'm saying, fresh school because
11:17
Speaker 1: they want you on probation early. They want to get
11:20
Speaker 1: you on paperwork, get your on probation. The nigga just
11:22
Speaker 1: fuck you over every time, strip for your rights. So
11:25
Speaker 1: then when you do go to jail and you get
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Speaker 1: out and you're still on probation or you're on parole,
11:31
Speaker 1: any little thing that you do violation. Yeah, I could
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Speaker 1: be chilling with my family member and this nigga on
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Speaker 1: probation and parole, but you can't be affiliated with those
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Speaker 1: kind of people. Bro. Yeah, so that shit right there?
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Speaker 1: Have your ass back fast. Yeah, that's but I feel
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Speaker 1: like that's the biggest loophole. It's like, especially if you're
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Speaker 1: from where you're from, It's like, Yo, so you're telling
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Speaker 1: me I can't be around my my cousins or yeah,
11:51
Speaker 1: you know what i'mybody, that's you know what I'm saying, affiliate.
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Speaker 1: But that's them their whole la. Oh you can't live
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Speaker 1: in the gang neighborhood, the whole la, right right right,
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Speaker 1: grand Mom staying in somebody hood, Auntie staying at somebody hood,
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Speaker 1: mom staying in somebody hood. You feel what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Help me understand. On the on the album, you say,
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Speaker 1: Baron Davison, Roddy Rich your blood cousin. Yeah, real talk,
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Speaker 1: so your blood cousins, Roddy and Baron. Real Talk said
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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't even know that Roddy and
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Speaker 1: Baron related like that. They probably don't even know. They
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Speaker 1: probably didn't even know. You feel what I'm saying, Like,
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Speaker 1: it just it just it just it took a nigga
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Speaker 1: a little bit later to know that part. You feel
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, especially Roddy because my bro hit me
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Speaker 1: was like he was like, you know, Roddy, that's our cousin. Right,
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Speaker 1: that's a little you know what I'm saying. It's a
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Speaker 1: little government that you're like, you know that's I'm like, yeah, nigga,
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Speaker 1: Roddy is my my g pops, my g No, my
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Speaker 1: uncle is his g pops. Oh shaw that go. So
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Speaker 1: you guys are like for real, related, that's crazy. You
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Speaker 1: guys have my dad, that's my dad brother, my dad brother.
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Speaker 1: My dad brother is my uncle. That's that's that nikked Grandaddy?
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Speaker 1: Were you like, like, is that something you found out
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Speaker 1: recently or was that? Man? Yeah, I just found that
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Speaker 1: out recently, bro, Like you've probably been around him and
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Speaker 1: ship not even new pop his g Pops is my
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Speaker 1: favorite uncle. Oh wow, Okay, Like that's that's what's crazy
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Speaker 1: about it. Damn. So you were like you guys because
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're around like with the racks in the middle,
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Speaker 1: uh in the video. That's what I'm saying. I was
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Speaker 1: just obviously, you know, he always tells us that story
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Speaker 1: about how how legendary that session was, you know. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: but you didn't even know that was your cousin at
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Speaker 1: the time. That shit crazy, that part. I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: I found that out later on in the game. No,
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Speaker 1: that's crazy. That's crazy. How this should be, bro? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Super crazy? What about obviously Baron Davis, legendary LA figure,
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Speaker 1: one of the more most slept on point Guard's NBA history. Man,
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Speaker 1: he's super tapped in as well, you know, shout out
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Speaker 1: to be Diddy. Uh? You you guys have a strong
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Speaker 1: relationship or a sure Hell yeah, yeah, I put up
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Speaker 1: on him faithfully. You know what I'm saying. We had talks.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We catch up this How
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Speaker 1: was it nice to have when he was on the Clippers?
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Speaker 1: Was that nice to have? Like? Man, that's why, that's
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Speaker 1: why I'm a hell of a Clipper fan right now,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying from l A. But like
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, My cousin Baron played for
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Speaker 1: the clipp He was balling out when he was on
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Speaker 1: the Clippers for real. Yeah. I had Nigga play for
14:22
Speaker 1: the Clippers, the Warriors, Hornets, Hornets, Knicks for a little bit,
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Speaker 1: Nicks for a little bit. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: You know, the Warriors was the wave though when he
14:31
Speaker 1: when they had that uh that season where they where
14:34
Speaker 1: they upset the one seed. I think it was to
14:36
Speaker 1: beat the Mavericks in round one. It was like Matt Barnes, Davis,
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Speaker 1: Michael Pitcher, that ship was legendary. Yeah, that's crazy. So
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Speaker 1: this album, man, super personal album. I feel like, you know,
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Speaker 1: you got some records on here that are crazy. You
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Speaker 1: got two Nipsy features on this project that are like
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Speaker 1: very special records. I feel like the Lebron James record
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Speaker 1: with Dom Kennedy is is a bang yeah, And I
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Speaker 1: feel like the other one is one of the better
15:04
Speaker 1: NIP verses I've heard in a long time. Man Like yeah,
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Speaker 1: he got off on that ship. Yeah, now do you now?
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Speaker 1: Go ahead? Go ahead? Nah? No, go ahead. I was
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Speaker 1: gonna say, like, what is the process of Like how
15:15
Speaker 1: many unreleased NIP records do you have? Obviously your home team,
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Speaker 1: so I'm assuming that you you you you have some
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Speaker 1: you know, I know, you know Dave's who's on your
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Speaker 1: project a couple of times as well, he's you know,
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Speaker 1: he's got some ship with him that no one's heard.
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Speaker 1: But like see see now that lap you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, that second song you heard you feel Me?
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Speaker 1: That was like an energy that we was in the
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Speaker 1: studio and had did like Cousin went crazy and then
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Speaker 1: I went crazy, Right, But the verse that I use
15:46
Speaker 1: is not is not even that verse. You feel what
15:48
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Bro was like he said, Nigga, everything you
15:51
Speaker 1: said on there was the money. He said, just changed
15:53
Speaker 1: the first four boards. He said, you changed the first
15:55
Speaker 1: four boards. He said the rest of that shit is money.
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Speaker 1: So instead of change in the four boards, I just
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Speaker 1: changed the whole verse and just went crazy. Yeah you spat,
16:04
Speaker 1: you know because nip kicked that thing off man on fire. Yeah,
16:08
Speaker 1: but we held on to her for a cool minute,
16:11
Speaker 1: right right, you know what I'm saying, We ain't do
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Speaker 1: shit to it. So after a while it just started
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Speaker 1: getting outdated. I'll revamped the beat and I'm like, man,
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Speaker 1: this shit perfect for the album. Yeah, because I know
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Speaker 1: that Nipsey was like very uh like he had an
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Speaker 1: intent when he recorded. It wasn't like Nipsey wasn't the
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Speaker 1: kind of guy who would, like, you know, do one
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty songs and like, you know, you know
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Speaker 1: there's those artists that like quantity over quality sometimes, right,
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Speaker 1: But I feel like nip everything he did was like
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Speaker 1: very specific. It had purpose. It was like, you know,
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Speaker 1: like so so in your in your estimation, like how
16:47
Speaker 1: much Nipsy versus records that are you know on hard
16:52
Speaker 1: drive somewhere that we haven't heard yet? Hey, man a lot.
16:59
Speaker 1: It's so his music. This nigga then did bro like
17:02
Speaker 1: you you you wouldn't even imagine Bro, It's ship that
17:05
Speaker 1: I haven't even heard when I thought I heard everything.
17:07
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, is there a have you
17:10
Speaker 1: heard any I like like plans obviously pop smoke past
17:12
Speaker 1: and we got a crazy album from him after he
17:16
Speaker 1: did after he died, and I think that. You know,
17:18
Speaker 1: a lot of Nipsey fans are like, I wonder if
17:20
Speaker 1: we're gonna get one more Nipsey project, And I know
17:22
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be as cohesive because you know, he's
17:25
Speaker 1: not here to if it were to happen, he's not here,
17:29
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a lot of production. It's gonna take
17:31
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, is that something that's been
17:33
Speaker 1: discussed on. It's gonna It's gonna definitely be another nip album,
17:38
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know you got
17:40
Speaker 1: to take time with that though. All money in so
17:42
Speaker 1: you know, we ain't gonna put out nothing, Mickey or
17:46
Speaker 1: do it just exactly? You know what I'm saying. You
17:48
Speaker 1: guys felt like, like, you know what I'm saying, resting
17:51
Speaker 1: piece of pot. I feel like if they would have
17:54
Speaker 1: held on to his music a little bit more, you
17:56
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and put it out the right way,
17:58
Speaker 1: it would have been see different but the music was
18:02
Speaker 1: still good and we needed at that time. So you know, yeah,
18:05
Speaker 1: they definitely after after Pac died, I feel like they
18:09
Speaker 1: didn't take their time with putting together those projects as
18:12
Speaker 1: much as they probably could ask. And Nip had his
18:15
Speaker 1: brand and his image so so so strong and tight,
18:20
Speaker 1: like you can't you know what I'm saying, you can't
18:23
Speaker 1: do the park on them with the mcavelly one, mcavelly fifteen.
18:26
Speaker 1: Remember all those CDs Botlegsave. I remember just hearing about
18:32
Speaker 1: all those and then when Napster came out, I was
18:35
Speaker 1: downloading all the fucking Tupac bootlegs off the fucking internet. Man. Yeah,
18:40
Speaker 1: that's crazy, Yeah, because I do think there is something
18:42
Speaker 1: to be said about like with Pac, like there was
18:46
Speaker 1: like some of those post depth albums that were solid,
18:49
Speaker 1: but some of them just felt like they just kind
18:50
Speaker 1: of kind of threw shit together and it was like
18:53
Speaker 1: kind of threw shit together where they could have waited.
18:54
Speaker 1: And then there was the one album that had like
18:56
Speaker 1: features with people he probably never would have like never
18:58
Speaker 1: even did a song where Bro, why is doing a
19:01
Speaker 1: song with Trick Daddy and and all like and g
19:04
Speaker 1: united Ship, Like Bro, like you didn't even know these cats,
19:07
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, and I feel like
19:09
Speaker 1: with with Nip, it's got to be very You gotta
19:12
Speaker 1: take your time. If that project happens, everything's got to
19:16
Speaker 1: be super you know. I mean the same way he
19:18
Speaker 1: took his time as Victory Lap. Yeah, and it was
19:21
Speaker 1: a perfect album for sure, in the same way, you
19:24
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that'd be crazy though if
19:26
Speaker 1: we hear that, man, Yeah, that'd be crazy. I don't know.
19:28
Speaker 1: I really can't say, but I just well, you did
19:31
Speaker 1: say earlier. But listen, man, shout out to NIP. I
19:36
Speaker 1: hope I hope we hear uh, because you know, some
19:38
Speaker 1: of these verses that have been coming out Deep Reverence
19:40
Speaker 1: with Sean was crazy, Uh, you know the stuff on
19:44
Speaker 1: your albums, like there's been some the the obviously the
19:48
Speaker 1: Kalid record was special. Yeah, I'm glad that they that
19:51
Speaker 1: they got to release that video. Yeah, Nip got a
19:54
Speaker 1: chance to pull up on cal it at his crib.
19:57
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They vibed out and knocked
19:59
Speaker 1: that shit out there. I was talking to Dave East
20:02
Speaker 1: and he said that you guys might be doing a
20:05
Speaker 1: collapse project. You and Dave East. We definitely like halfway
20:10
Speaker 1: through an EP. You know what I'm saying. I mean
20:12
Speaker 1: he's on. I mean, look, you guys got some great
20:14
Speaker 1: records together right now, yeah, right now. Yeah you heard
20:18
Speaker 1: you heard like two of them already for show for show. Yeah.
20:21
Speaker 1: So uh, because I know Easton Nippe talked about working together,
20:25
Speaker 1: So that's got to be a very important like, uh,
20:27
Speaker 1: you know, A Dave's one of the realist dudes in him.
20:30
Speaker 1: Just a great guy, man, very genuine dude. He's solid, bro.
20:34
Speaker 1: So you guys are halfway through it, yeah, halfway through
20:38
Speaker 1: and were ready to go. Man, We're going. We were
20:40
Speaker 1: ready to just finish this ship, get it going, you
20:43
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Him and Nip obviously was working
20:45
Speaker 1: on one, you know what I'm saying, and man, were
20:49
Speaker 1: just gonna keep this ship going. Help me understand the T.
20:51
Speaker 1: How'd you get T Paint on this album? Man? Because
20:54
Speaker 1: I was just listening with I looking at the track lists,
20:55
Speaker 1: I heard TA Pain. I was like, oh, ship, yeah, man,
20:59
Speaker 1: T Pain on the shout out the T. I though, man,
21:01
Speaker 1: for real, I'll put it up on him. And we
21:03
Speaker 1: got in the studio and uh, the producer that produced
21:07
Speaker 1: for uh for Tip you know what I'm saying, have
21:10
Speaker 1: some music for me. Yeah, he had the T Paint hook. Yeah,
21:16
Speaker 1: he been holding on that for me, Like, Bro, I've
21:17
Speaker 1: been having this record for you. Man, I've been sitting
21:19
Speaker 1: on this record for you. He had hit me in
21:21
Speaker 1: June and told me about it. So did you have
21:23
Speaker 1: to pain to clear it? Obviously? Right, like of course,
21:26
Speaker 1: and he gave you the blessing. Yeah, we got the
21:28
Speaker 1: blessings man shut out the Tip man. So T I
21:31
Speaker 1: helped kind of run that. Come on man, hey, that's crazy, yeah,
21:35
Speaker 1: because it sounded like some vintage like, you know, something
21:38
Speaker 1: like all the above era T Pain. I was like
21:41
Speaker 1: this ship, I haven't heard paint it. I was like
21:43
Speaker 1: this in a minute, classic shit certainly, so kind of
21:49
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's been so much, you know, controversy
21:54
Speaker 1: since since it passed away. On the album, you kind
21:57
Speaker 1: of address whack Uh some of the things he said.
22:00
Speaker 1: I forget the line. It was very specific. You know,
22:05
Speaker 1: I've known Whack for a long time. I can't say
22:08
Speaker 1: anything bad about the dude, to be honest with you.
22:11
Speaker 1: He does have his opinions on things that he has
22:15
Speaker 1: no problem sharing vocally. Is there like you know, a
22:23
Speaker 1: conversation to be had with with someone like Whack who.
22:26
Speaker 1: You know. I know that there was like that incident
22:29
Speaker 1: that happened rolling Loud, and you know, is there any
22:33
Speaker 1: sort of conversation to be had to kind of get
22:35
Speaker 1: past that that. I ain't no talking with that nigga. Man,
22:42
Speaker 1: ain't no talking with him straight up. Nigga said too
22:46
Speaker 1: much about the bro. You feel me, so it ain't nothing.
22:48
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing to be said. You feel me, You
22:50
Speaker 1: say how you feel? All right? Cool? Right, you know
22:53
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're gonna have to see a nigga
22:56
Speaker 1: one day, That's fair. We'll leave it at that, man.
22:59
Speaker 1: You know, And I ain't even really want to speak
23:02
Speaker 1: up on that nigga. You feel what I'm saying. But
23:04
Speaker 1: I mean you addressed it on the album, so it's
23:05
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. Yeah, you know, I
23:09
Speaker 1: just I just like always like to see people trying
23:12
Speaker 1: to move past that kind of shit, you know, but like,
23:14
Speaker 1: you know, hey, it is what it is. We leave
23:15
Speaker 1: it at that. Uh. Like I feel like with this project,
23:20
Speaker 1: you're you're in a really great position to kind of
23:26
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like people kind of associate you
23:28
Speaker 1: as like nips homie, right, Yeah, that's my day one. Right.
23:32
Speaker 1: But but I think that this album is like an
23:35
Speaker 1: album that it's kind of like it feels like you're
23:39
Speaker 1: like your rival where you're it's like, yeah, that's that's
23:43
Speaker 1: that's Jay Stone who happens to be Nipsey's homie. Like,
23:49
Speaker 1: you know, do you understand what I'm trying to say?
23:51
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of get it. Yeah, Like I
23:54
Speaker 1: feel like this album is like a big statement for
23:55
Speaker 1: you as an artist, exact like that. Like I say,
23:59
Speaker 1: like the definition or law to you was like it
24:01
Speaker 1: was like a demonstration, but this one is like like, Nigga,
24:05
Speaker 1: this is my staff right here, Like this shit was
24:08
Speaker 1: for real and it is for real and I'm here,
24:10
Speaker 1: so get used to me, feel me? What do you like?
24:13
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on you know a lot of these
24:15
Speaker 1: lists have been coming out, and I feel like, obviously
24:18
Speaker 1: LA is always getting overlooked. You know, Head always talks
24:20
Speaker 1: about that shoutouts to Head. A lot of hip hop
24:24
Speaker 1: media is East Coast biased. What is your kind of
24:28
Speaker 1: thought process on where LA hip hop is right now?
24:31
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're in a good space right now.
24:33
Speaker 1: Everybody doing their shit, man, shut out everybody on the
24:36
Speaker 1: West that's doing the shit. You know what I'm saying lyrically,
24:40
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, shit, I just feel like,
24:47
Speaker 1: you know, you can say like the West need this
24:50
Speaker 1: and the West need that, and we don't need this
24:53
Speaker 1: and we don't need that. But if shit, if you
24:55
Speaker 1: actually everybody else bro on the outside looking in, we're
24:59
Speaker 1: looking good. I mean, listen to sounding good. I also
25:02
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot more unity right now in
25:06
Speaker 1: LA than in the pasture with the younger with especially
25:09
Speaker 1: with the younger kids that are doing their thing, you
25:10
Speaker 1: know for sure, and it could be a lot more.
25:13
Speaker 1: It could be a lot more. That's probably like the
25:15
Speaker 1: only thing that we lack, you feel what I'm saying.
25:17
Speaker 1: To the South, they go do songs with each other,
25:19
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They go sit in the
25:21
Speaker 1: studio and do ten records today. But like, look, here's
25:25
Speaker 1: a twenty one Savage offset album and exactly yeah me, Like,
25:29
Speaker 1: I don't know, I work like that. That's how I work, right,
25:31
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't think niggas can
25:33
Speaker 1: get in the studio with me like that, you know
25:35
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Do you think it's it's a lot
25:37
Speaker 1: of it is, is the politics side of LA sometimes
25:40
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, not that not that somebody
25:44
Speaker 1: doesn't fuck with an artist, but it's like sometimes it's like, look, well,
25:48
Speaker 1: like you know, sometimes the politics kind of get in
25:51
Speaker 1: in the middle of certain people collaborating, you know what
25:53
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Definitely, like like I remember, it's kind of
25:56
Speaker 1: like everywhere you go now though if you think about it,
25:59
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just pretty much anywhere in hip hop,
26:01
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's really out here though for sure,
26:05
Speaker 1: as far as you know, I'm talking about the street politics,
26:06
Speaker 1: off the street politics. Yeah, Like because there was a
26:09
Speaker 1: bro as a as a fan I was, I was
26:12
Speaker 1: always there was like one of the one record. I
26:13
Speaker 1: always like one of the one collapse. I wanted. I
26:17
Speaker 1: wanted to hear Nipsey and school Boy Q on some ship,
26:19
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know, obviously there's
26:22
Speaker 1: no secret if you're from LA as to why that
26:24
Speaker 1: probably didn't happen. It wasn't like there was beef or anything.
26:27
Speaker 1: But I feel like that there's definitely, like you know,
26:30
Speaker 1: with the young kids right now, at least like the
26:32
Speaker 1: one take Jay's the Hazy hikes, you know, the shoreline
26:37
Speaker 1: kids Rucci. Like, it feels like there's just a lot
26:40
Speaker 1: more camaraderie with the younger generation of LA right now,
26:43
Speaker 1: and it's just good to see man for sure. Yeah,
26:46
Speaker 1: who who were you? We were talking earlier, like, Man,
26:49
Speaker 1: I'm a hip hop head. You know, definitely, bro, because
26:53
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I was out bro growing
26:57
Speaker 1: up in this ship. Bro, we had the box. You
26:59
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Of course, like video channel, the box,
27:01
Speaker 1: Like come on, you know what I'm saying. Ship like that.
27:05
Speaker 1: The box was crazy and then uh, you know my
27:08
Speaker 1: cousins and ship. You know, they used to always listen
27:10
Speaker 1: to all that eighties rap. You feel me? So I was.
27:13
Speaker 1: I was already. I was already listening to that ship.
27:16
Speaker 1: What's your what's your favorite? Like, Like, give me, like
27:18
Speaker 1: your top three albums of all time? If you get
27:20
Speaker 1: and and excluding Victory Laps, it's got to be in there,
27:22
Speaker 1: I'm assuming. I mean, Victory Lap is just all you
27:26
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's just up there. You're already
27:28
Speaker 1: of course, of course, you know what I'm saying. My
27:29
Speaker 1: top three, damn man, Ship number one me against the
27:35
Speaker 1: world pop uh ship you can throw you can throw
27:43
Speaker 1: Bone Thugs a harmony, creeping on the come up or
27:45
Speaker 1: each ninety ninety turn on the one of them talking
27:49
Speaker 1: about there and number three she definition the Lord to you. Okay,
27:59
Speaker 1: I see you. You can put yourself in there. Yeah. Yo,
28:02
Speaker 1: it's crazy because like Bone Thugs was, I remember having
28:06
Speaker 1: creeping on a come up and the Ouiji board ship
28:08
Speaker 1: as as a little bro as a little kid. That
28:11
Speaker 1: ship creeped me out though, because I was like, but
28:13
Speaker 1: I love bone Bone. Creeping on a come up in
28:16
Speaker 1: doggy style was hard, but like its hard, they like
28:19
Speaker 1: the main reason why I'm rapping right man, And they
28:21
Speaker 1: don't get in. I don't feel like they don't get
28:23
Speaker 1: talked about enough anymore. Like as far as we're talking
28:25
Speaker 1: about the all time greatest groups and ship like Bones
28:28
Speaker 1: up there, man, like you up there. Everybody know they
28:30
Speaker 1: have run like the so millions of Restords bro East,
28:35
Speaker 1: millions of motherfuckers heard it Grammys and they got the Grammys. Man,
28:39
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't. It ain't too many motherfuckers. It
28:42
Speaker 1: ain't really too many motherfuckers. Yeah, you know, Bone Bones, Uh,
28:47
Speaker 1: you know, I wish they would have had a longer
28:49
Speaker 1: run for sure. Yeah, one hundred up the business side, Yeah,
28:54
Speaker 1: I mean, look when you got when you got that
28:56
Speaker 1: many people involved in a group, it's hard to you know,
28:59
Speaker 1: you gotta manage a lot more variables, yeah, you know people.
29:02
Speaker 1: And then and then Crazy Bone start doing solo shit,
29:04
Speaker 1: Lazy Bone drop the solo album, Then Busy dropped the
29:06
Speaker 1: solo album. It was like, you know, then shit just
29:08
Speaker 1: kind of got out of control. I feel like the
29:11
Speaker 1: shout outs to Bone man, legendary group. Respect to them
29:15
Speaker 1: is there. Obviously you're you're probably sitting on a whole
29:18
Speaker 1: lot more music. What's the plans for twenty twenty one
29:20
Speaker 1: for you? Bro? Shit? Man, I don't know what it's
29:25
Speaker 1: gonna look like. Man, hopefully they open these doors man
29:27
Speaker 1: that we get on the road, right saying, get back
29:30
Speaker 1: on this road and ship. If not, Bro, I'm back
29:32
Speaker 1: in the studio recreating it, doing another album. Feel me,
29:37
Speaker 1: just keep keeping it pushing, Yeah, keeping it pushing them,
29:39
Speaker 1: and then whatever happens alone, the process is gonna happen, bro,
29:42
Speaker 1: Cause I don't know, right right right right? Can you
29:45
Speaker 1: kind of I was gonna ask you, can you kind
29:47
Speaker 1: of give us some like an update obviously for people
29:49
Speaker 1: who don't know. The Marathon store physical location was closed, right, Yeah,
29:55
Speaker 1: but you can still go online and support. Definitely go
29:57
Speaker 1: online and support and get the merchandise. You know what
30:00
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Marathon dot com. Yeah, mat Yeah, because I
30:05
Speaker 1: it was, you know, after Nip's passing. I just remember
30:08
Speaker 1: like that became you know, I think it's always going
30:12
Speaker 1: to be a landmark, you know where people whoever comes
30:15
Speaker 1: to town, they're gonna go and be like, Yo, this
30:17
Speaker 1: is where Nipsey's business was. This is where you know
30:19
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like where it started. You know what
30:21
Speaker 1: I'm saying from ground zero, Like that was ground zero
30:25
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, it's crazy because if you like, you know,
30:28
Speaker 1: through the whole process of him being there, getting kicked
30:31
Speaker 1: out of that area, then to opening the store up,
30:34
Speaker 1: and then to just be in everybody's landlord and that
30:37
Speaker 1: motherfucker Like it's it was like such a dope story.
30:42
Speaker 1: And I think like that, I don't know what the
30:45
Speaker 1: current you know, situation of that center is, but I
30:47
Speaker 1: think that like it's got to be preserved, man, like
30:51
Speaker 1: you know it was. I think in like twenty or
30:53
Speaker 1: thirty years from now, we're gonna be watching the Nipsey
30:57
Speaker 1: Hustle movie. It might even be ten years from now,
31:00
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years from damn, that's a long. It might
31:03
Speaker 1: be ten years from now time ship, it might be
31:06
Speaker 1: ten years. You definitely definitely who's playing Who's playing Jaystone
31:09
Speaker 1: in that movie? Though? Shit me, kid me like the
31:16
Speaker 1: younger me. What if you got you gotta pick an
31:18
Speaker 1: actor though, a younger me somebody? Yeah, but me, I
31:21
Speaker 1: definitely go with me. You feel me? But if not,
31:24
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I can't think of
31:27
Speaker 1: nobody right now. All right, we'll listen to the album
31:29
Speaker 1: is out The definition of pain man, dope body of
31:33
Speaker 1: work is there gonna be? Yo? Has Lebron James heard
31:36
Speaker 1: the Lebron James record yet? Yeah? I sent it to him.
31:38
Speaker 1: Did he fuck with it? Yeah? He fuck with it? Yeah,
31:41
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He gonna go crazy? He was.
31:44
Speaker 1: He was the first person I sent it to it.
31:45
Speaker 1: Right when it was mixed and mastered. I hit him like, yeah, press,
31:51
Speaker 1: it must be nice to just be able to hit
31:52
Speaker 1: Lebron James. Yeah, Bro, that's one hundred for show. For motivation,
31:56
Speaker 1: I keep a nigga going to you feel me? Any
31:59
Speaker 1: other videos? Do you have videos in the can for
32:01
Speaker 1: the further from the videos and the cut videos are
32:04
Speaker 1: dropping ship, I got one with I got one with
32:08
Speaker 1: Davies another one yeah yeah yeah, so yeah we crash,
32:11
Speaker 1: Jay Stone Man, appreciate you pulling up. We support the album.
32:14
Speaker 1: The definition of pain is out. Let's go. Yeah pre
32:18
Speaker 1: style out right now too. Actually, let's go, Let's get
32:22
Speaker 1: it boom perfect