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I Am All In…Again: He Saw Her Value (Season 3 E9 “A Deep Fried Korean Thanksgiving) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I am all in again with Scott Patterson and
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  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I amil in Podcast, one of
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  Speaker 1: Love Productions iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast. We are at season three,
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  Speaker 1: episode nine, and we have a very special guest. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, the episode is entitled A deep Fried Korean Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to go through this episode with the one
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  Speaker 1: and only Leanne Hunley, who is an absolute force to
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  Speaker 1: be reckoned with. Well, I'm Gilmore girls as Logan's mom
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  Speaker 1: and Mitcham's wife. Welcome Shira Huntsberger herself. There she is.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, Lian, I'm well, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: To see all right, Before we get in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: we want to share something here Leanne, don't we that
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  Speaker 1: you right? Yeah, We'll be joining us for holidays made
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  Speaker 1: here for the live podcast December eighteenth from Warner Brothers Studios.
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  Speaker 1: Are you excited to visit stars Hollow?
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  Speaker 3: I am? I am. Do you know I never ever
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  Speaker 3: got in the street, so I filmed in the Dohina
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  Speaker 3: mansion at one point, and I've been the studio on stage,
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  Speaker 3: but yes, I'd be happy to be on the street.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're excited to have you and prepare yourself. It's
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  Speaker 1: a it's.
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  Speaker 4: A raucous crowd.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: It's really something.
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  Speaker 3: It's ready for the holidays. I think it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: It's five thousand screaming fans. They're pumped. All right, Let's
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  Speaker 1: let's go through the synopsis.
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  Speaker 3: Here.
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  Speaker 1: LORELEI shocked to learn that Rory has applied to Yale,
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  Speaker 1: and they have a memorable Thanksgiving and they end up
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  Speaker 1: forcing down four celebratory meals, including a formal dinner party
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  Speaker 1: with Richard and Emily and Oh What a Doozy That
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  Speaker 1: was directed by Kenny Ortega, written by the incomparable Dan Palladino.
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  Speaker 1: So Laurel is pretty much avoiding and has been avoiding
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  Speaker 1: Emily's calls and hasn't attended two Friday night dinners in
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  Speaker 1: a row, and Emily drops in at the end tells
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  Speaker 1: Laurel that she expects her and Rory at Thanksgiving. Leanne,
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  Speaker 1: how was your Thanksgiving? Let's talk about your Thanksgiving? Do
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  Speaker 1: the prepping at all?
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  Speaker 4: Life.
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  Speaker 3: I usually I'm from Washington State, so I usually go home.
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  Speaker 3: This year, I stayed here. I have relatives here, and
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  Speaker 3: I went to their house and I take something every
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  Speaker 3: year to something, I bring something, but I have done
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  Speaker 3: the double duty Thanksgiving dinner before myself, so I sort
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  Speaker 3: of appreciated that they were trying to do four in
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  Speaker 3: one day. I've only done two in one day.
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  Speaker 1: Very ambitious, very ambitious.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought it was very amusing to see them
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  Speaker 3: try to eat that much and keep it all down.
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  Speaker 3: It was really great.
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  Speaker 1: Unbelievable, unbelievable. But as Laurlized states in the beginning, this
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  Speaker 1: is what they were born to do, this is what
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  Speaker 1: they're built for. Uh, well, I'm they going to first
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  Speaker 1: They're going to missus Kim's and they have to Dave
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  Speaker 1: Rigoalski's there hired as a Christian guitar player so that
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  Speaker 1: they can lay the groundwork of Lane dating him. So funny, right,
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  Speaker 1: what a great story.
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  Speaker 3: Very sweet little story. I love the moment when she
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  Speaker 3: goes running out to try to find him and he's
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  Speaker 3: right there, and it was just a sweet, little, romantic
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  Speaker 3: little moment. I thought that, Yeah, I remember those days.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as do why all right? Then they hid the
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  Speaker 1: Suki's and Jackson is deep frying a turkey. Wow have
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  Speaker 1: you ever deep fried? You?
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  Speaker 4: Never? I've never tried it.
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  Speaker 3: I've eaten it. I've had times at my family where
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  Speaker 3: they've done it. Every They do like five different kinds
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  Speaker 3: of turkey, one of which was deep fried, and then
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  Speaker 3: we taste test everything. Obviously, I come from a very
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  Speaker 3: large family, and it was it was very juicy. I
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  Speaker 3: was kind of surprised myself. Oh yeah, yeah, But I
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  Speaker 3: can see where it would put off a really good chef.
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  Speaker 3: It would hurt their heart that you would just cook
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  Speaker 3: it that fast when you're supposed to do twenty minutes
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  Speaker 3: pound and you're supposed to take your time with it.
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  Speaker 3: So and I remember my first turkey that I ever cooked,
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  Speaker 3: when I was first married, and I called my mother
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  Speaker 3: to say, how do I cook this turkey? And she said,
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  Speaker 3: how big is it? I told her twenty pounds. She said,
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  Speaker 3: get it in the oven. I said, what do I
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  Speaker 3: do to it? I don't care what you do to it.
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  Speaker 3: Just get it in the oven. It has to start
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  Speaker 3: cooking now. So the deep fried turkey is kind of
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  Speaker 3: a pretty good idea.
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  Speaker 1: How long has that take to deep rive turkey?
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  Speaker 3: De fight turkey? It only takes like forty five minutes an.
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  Speaker 4: Hour forty five minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I think they mentioned that in the episode, but
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  Speaker 3: I could be completely wrong. Don't call I am not
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  Speaker 3: a chef. Obviously, get it in the oven.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So they do, they go through that rigamarole.
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  Speaker 1: Then they had the Lukes where they eat their meal
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  Speaker 1: with Jess and Rory and Jeff. Jess have a little kiss,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, Rory's having a hard time with the
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  Speaker 1: PDA and with Jess because she feels guilty about Deans. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: hilarious moments with Sally Struthers. You've got to give it
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  Speaker 1: a little effort next time, you know, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: never lose with Sally. I mean, when Sally shows up,
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  Speaker 1: you're having a good time.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: And then they finally had to the last stop Emily
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  Speaker 1: and Richards, which I think is one of the classic
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  Speaker 1: uh family scenes. But I'll tell you, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's the classic family scene. And I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: and come back to that. Leanne. I'm glad you're here
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  Speaker 1: because we're going to talk about that what I consider
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  Speaker 1: to be the finest moment of any family scene in
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  Speaker 1: any show I've ever seen. And they all sit down
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  Speaker 1: at the table after they get through their kind of
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  Speaker 1: awkward dining sorry, living room conversation and Laura continuing to
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  Speaker 1: make jokes and annoying her parents, and then they sit
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  Speaker 1: down in rory Reville. She's applied to Yale Jennifer Aniston's father.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, John, who I interject real quickly because I worked
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  Speaker 3: with him a lot on my other show, on Days
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  Speaker 3: of Our Lives. He was a protagonist on that show,
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  Speaker 3: so I was real happy to see him when I
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  Speaker 3: watched this episode. It was like such a treat for
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  Speaker 3: me to see him.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a tremendous presence, doesn't he Oh.
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  Speaker 3: He truly does. And he was just he was such
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  Speaker 3: a gentleman and a gentle man. He was such a
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  Speaker 3: lovely man. Lovely man. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is where Nori Rory announces that she, unbeknownst
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  Speaker 1: to her mother, applied to backups Yale being one of them,
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  Speaker 1: Princeton another. And this, you know, this really spins laurel
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  Speaker 1: eye out. What do you think of this scene? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's a great scene. And do you think the conflict
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  Speaker 1: was a little forced? Do you think Laurelized reaction.
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  Speaker 4: Is over the top? How do you feel about this?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it makes for great drama, It makes.
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  Speaker 3: For great drama, and I, you know, I can understand that,
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  Speaker 3: to tell you the truth, because that's what shows, that's
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  Speaker 3: what makes characters work, is a little something conflicting, and
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  Speaker 3: everybody has to have their opinion about it. But I
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  Speaker 3: did wonder what was her her reason for not wanting Yale,
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  Speaker 3: because if you're going to consider Princeton and Harvard, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't understand the Yale thing. So I guess it's because
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  Speaker 3: I don't know the original story with her father and
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  Speaker 3: her and where that really comes from. But I'm all
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  Speaker 3: for a little conflict because, like I said, that's what
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  Speaker 3: makes a scene juicy. That's what an actor likes to do.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I like to do. I like to grab
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  Speaker 3: onto something and that's a through line to get through
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  Speaker 3: to the next thought, up to the arc where you
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  Speaker 3: have to be, you know, in terms of where you're
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  Speaker 3: going to land. And so for me, I bought it.
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  Speaker 4: I bought it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. You know. One thing that is problematic is
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  Speaker 3: that when you do know somebody in the scene, it
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  Speaker 3: takes you out of the scene. And I'm thinking, okay,
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  Speaker 3: well look out, Grady, and I'm thinking of him as
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  Speaker 3: a friend as opposed to within the setting of the scene.
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  Speaker 3: But that still doesn't matter. I mean, I just didn't
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  Speaker 3: really understand the reason why. But maybe that's explained before,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe it's explained later in the series. I just
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I think to get you up to
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  Speaker 1: speed a little bit, because I wasn't familiar either until
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  Speaker 1: I started watching the show. As a result of doing
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, I had to watch the show. Yeah, Laura
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  Speaker 1: I was destined for Yale, and so they are. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think a Laurel I feels erased by her mother
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  Speaker 1: and father and they're pinning all their hopes and dreams
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  Speaker 1: on their granddaughter to fulfill the promise that Laurel I
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  Speaker 1: once held and failed in their eyes, and the family embarrassment,
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  Speaker 1: the black sheep, the whole thing, the only child who
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  Speaker 1: did not excel according to their standards, but according to
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  Speaker 1: her own she's she's really made a very nice life
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  Speaker 1: for herself and her daughter, which I agree with. But
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  Speaker 1: so that's the trigger.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then that makes more sense if I knew
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  Speaker 3: that one a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they the previous episode, they took it. They took
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  Speaker 1: it a trip to Yale, impromptu trip to Yale. It
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  Speaker 1: was just grandfather and granddaughter, and then Emily showed up,
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  Speaker 1: and then Laura I showed up. She found out about it,
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  Speaker 1: and Richard had had organized the Dean of Admissions to
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  Speaker 1: sit down with Rory and have a little chat, and Laura.
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  Speaker 4: I got upset about that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay for dad manipulating the situation, and she was dead
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  Speaker 1: set on Harvard and butt out, it's my life, it's
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  Speaker 1: my daughter.
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  Speaker 4: I make the decisions. You didn't consult with me. So
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  Speaker 4: there you go.
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  Speaker 3: I see, God makes a lot more sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so she blew up at dinner. Yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 1: back Dave. Dave leaves missus Kim's. He forgets his Bible,
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  Speaker 1: Sweet missus Kim opens it up. Lane wants to run
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  Speaker 1: it out to him. It's all obviously a setup, and
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  Speaker 1: opens the Bible and says, this belongs to God, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm borrowing it for the time being.
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  Speaker 4: David Galski or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's when she runs out and they have
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  Speaker 1: the first kiss. Nice storyline. I really enjoy particularly this
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  Speaker 1: actor and these two together.
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  Speaker 3: It was very sweet. And when I first started watching
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  Speaker 3: the episode, I didn't see that coming. I didn't see
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  Speaker 3: them together. But I have to say they really it
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  Speaker 3: really connected. It was really heartfelt. It was a sweet
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  Speaker 3: little moment. That is what I said. I love that
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  Speaker 3: little moment when she runs right out and runs right
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  Speaker 3: into him, because there's an excitement when you're a young
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  Speaker 3: girl and you're really kind of taken by somebody for
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  Speaker 3: the first time. And I saw all of that in
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  Speaker 3: those moments. And he seemed like a nice guy too.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't seem like you wanted to take advantage of her.
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  Speaker 3: He seemed like a stand up guy. So I really
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  Speaker 3: appreciated that as an audience and as a woman and
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  Speaker 3: once a young girl once a long time ago. I
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  Speaker 3: really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, now we're back at Suki's. Suki is
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  Speaker 1: three Sheets to the Wind and one of the most
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  Speaker 1: hilarious drunken ma is on record. I mean, what a talent, right,
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  Speaker 1: what is just a glorious performance from Melissa. Absolutely, and
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  Speaker 1: they're sort of checking in on her. She's just giving
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  Speaker 1: in and it's don and the whole She's just lost
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  Speaker 1: total control, the whole situation. Anyway, Shira Hunsberger would fit
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  Speaker 1: in with Emily and Richard's Thanksgiving celebrations. But which one
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  Speaker 1: would you want to attend of the four that Laurel
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  Speaker 1: I and Rory attended.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm torn between Emily and Richard's dinner. I like
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  Speaker 3: tablecloths and silverware, but I also like the cafe. I
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  Speaker 3: have to say, I like your cafe. I'm a old school,
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm homegrown an old school and I
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  Speaker 3: like a comfortable and casual dinner as well. But I
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  Speaker 3: also enjoy a moment to dress up. So I would
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  Speaker 3: like both of those, I think, And like I said,
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  Speaker 3: I've kind of done that before where I've done both
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  Speaker 3: of those in one day. So for me, it was
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  Speaker 3: a sweet moment. Sweet. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the dynamic with the Gilmours and the Huntsburgers is
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  Speaker 1: pretty similar, you know, wanting what's best for your child
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  Speaker 1: or grandchild even though they can't see it. Yes, I'm
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  Speaker 1: very aligned, don't you think.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I see that. Although I know from what
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  Speaker 3: I hear, the audience doesn't like my Shira very much
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  Speaker 3: because she was so mean to Rory, and I can
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  Speaker 3: truly appreciate that as well, because basically, you know, every
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  Speaker 3: girl wants to meet her prince charming, and if he
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  Speaker 3: happens to be a prince, okay, that's great. But just
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  Speaker 3: because she's not a princess, it's a hard place to be.
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  Speaker 3: And Shira is since she came It wasn't told until
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  Speaker 3: the second episode that I did where she came from
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  Speaker 3: suspect beginnings herself. So she's protecting that line at all
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  Speaker 3: costs in terms of her, you know, lording over anybody
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  Speaker 3: else and thinking that she's part of that club. And
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  Speaker 3: so some of that came clear when I did the
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  Speaker 3: second episode myself. I actually appreciated knowing that myself. But
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  Speaker 3: she had very lowly beginnings. But yeah, she gets so
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  Speaker 3: she thinks she belongs in that world, in the world
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  Speaker 3: of Richard and Emily. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I must say that the scene, the scene of the Huntsburgers,
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  Speaker 1: when the entire thing just comes on glued and we
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  Speaker 1: the level of dysfunction of that family.
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  Speaker 3: Is shown at the dinner table.
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  Speaker 1: At the dinner table and then you go off and
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  Speaker 1: sit somewhere in a chair and have a drink and
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  Speaker 1: we're making comments. You know, it was like it was
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  Speaker 1: like Who's afraid of Virginia Wolf? It was like Edward
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  Speaker 1: Albie level absurdity and dysfunction. It was, Yeah, my favorite
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  Speaker 1: family dinner scene I've maybe ever seen. It was hysterically funny,
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  Speaker 1: oh good, and it showed just how broken that family was. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: what do you remember about that thing?
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  Speaker 3: Well, what I do remember was we were filming in
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  Speaker 3: the Dooheini Mansion, which was this beautiful old place and
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  Speaker 3: I think it's run by nuns. And I remember the
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  Speaker 3: morning I got there. They had rules, The nuns had rules.
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  Speaker 3: We were not allowed. Nobody was allowed to smoke on
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  Speaker 3: on the property. Nobody was allowed to swear on the property.
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  Speaker 3: That's crewe, that's cast, that's everybody. Everybody got this piece
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  Speaker 3: of paper that said no swearing, no smoking, no nothing.
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  Speaker 3: And then my character was supposed to go behind the
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  Speaker 3: curtains of these drapes that were these old that have
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  Speaker 3: been there one hundred years and smoke. So I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually back there smoking and handing off a
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  Speaker 3: cigarette to a prop guy behind me behind the curtains
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  Speaker 3: so that I could pop back out and speak to
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  Speaker 3: the family and act like I wasn't smoking behind the curtains.
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  Speaker 3: I felt very guilty. I was the only one sanctioned
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  Speaker 3: to smoke on the property. But it was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like a psychologically dysfunctional family on every level, on every level,
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  Speaker 3: it was, but it was great fun to do. I
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  Speaker 3: have to say, there's.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I have ever laughed that hard watching it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've had some great laughs from the show,
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  Speaker 1: but that scene just broke me.
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  Speaker 4: It was it was such a gift, such a gift.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm glad to hear it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just just fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: And was it weren't the grandparents involved in that seen somewhat? Well?
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  Speaker 4: The father the father right right.
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  Speaker 3: Father, George Coe was The other was Greg Henry's father,
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  Speaker 3: I think somehow, unless he was supposed to be my
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  Speaker 3: I'm not certain, but I think he was a Huntsburger,
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  Speaker 3: so I have a feeling so he Yeah, he was
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  Speaker 3: trying to demand how the life was going to be
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  Speaker 3: run and how this kid was going to go through
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  Speaker 3: life and where he was supposed to land, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: kid wasn't having it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember what a season that was.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was in the fifth season, fifth season,
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  Speaker 3: I think the fifth season, and then I came back
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  Speaker 3: and did another episode in the sixth season, I think,
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  Speaker 3: which was the nineteen forties. You know, Andrew's sisters kind
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  Speaker 3: of style advance kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: After we get off here, I'm going to go find it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Emily told me off in such a such a way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember that.
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  Speaker 3: She was amazing. I have to say, the one thing
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  Speaker 3: I have to say about this show is the rapidity
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  Speaker 3: with which everybody is talking, just at the speed of light.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like speed reading when you're you know, you're
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  Speaker 3: learning your lines and you have to do it really
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  Speaker 3: fast and then you can let all the pieces lay
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  Speaker 3: in and where where the feelings land and that sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing. There's no time for that.
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  Speaker 1: That all happens, There's no time to be there.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, this is amazing and that
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  Speaker 3: and Kelly Bishop was extraordinary. I was just dumbfounded just
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  Speaker 3: staring at her because I had never heard anybody talk
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  Speaker 3: that fast and get it all straight. It was amazing.
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  Speaker 3: It was a great experience for me as an actor.
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  Speaker 4: I say, as well, that was something all right.
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  Speaker 1: Kirk and his cat Kirk.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, Yeah, yes. And I have to say I relate
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: to this because I once had two cats. But my
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: first cat was a biter and I always say she
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: bit everybody she ever met. Everybody hated my cat except me,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: and yeah, she'd get if somebody came to visit she'd
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: get in their suitcase and wouldn't get out, and they
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: couldn't pack their clothes, or they couldn't get their clothes.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was real. I finally gave up apologizing.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I finally just said that, yeah she does that, Yeah
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: she does. I just gave up. So when he was
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: sleeping in the tree at the end of the whole thing,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I really understood kind of, you know, that's what she does.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Funny and Laurel I runs into Dean at doses and
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: she tells Dean that he was the best boyfriend, best first.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Boyfriend, first boyfriend.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's pretty important. He's I think he set
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: a pretty high bar for first boyfriends. I mean he
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: as I've as I've opined prior to this. You know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: he was acting well beyond his years within a relationship, right,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and she just was not ready for that level. I mean,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: he was committed and he was just being a great guy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: He started out with such mystery and such power and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: such a lore and then they just sort of, you know,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: he just evolved into this sort of simpering mess. But
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, you know, he he was kind of ready.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I think this was the kind of guy who understood
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: her value and understood maybe not on the deepest levels.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Of who she really is.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe Jess and Logan had a little better idea of
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: who she truly was and what she really needed. But
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, he loved her. I don't know, I don't
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: know if he could define exactly why passed a certain point,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: but he loved her, and he was I think he
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: was the guy that was going to propose to her,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and you know, it was going to be a high
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: school like after high school, let's get married.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Or romance for life kind.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Of absolutely for him. I think it was absolutely that. Yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then when Laurel I says to her, you're
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: going to have a hundreds of guys you're going to
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: be in love with, it's like hundreds. I mean, that says, yeah,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: that's a lot to think that way. But I can imagine,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: you know, I personally, you know, remembered my dates in
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: high school. I can't imagine being married to them at
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: this point. So when people do fall in love with
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: their first one and they do get well, first of all,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: my sister, my older sister, her high school boyfriend found
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: her fifty years later and they're together. Those things can happen.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: That's the sort of thing, you know, that could come
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: back in a storyline where they do meet up again.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: You know, it's something that's really when people do meet
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: at a young age. I think that that it does
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: set the tone for who you are. And like, I
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: love what you just said that he saw her value
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: and what she was and who she would be. And
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I think that's a beautiful thing. And if a man
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: could recognize that in a woman, that's a man with value.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: That's somebody to recognize and to appreciate.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: All right, clothes scenes, Lorele and Roy are headed for
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Luke's for coffee, and Rory takes this opportunity to kiss
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Jess passionately in public in front of Luke's. Not that
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: anybody was really around at that hour, but you know,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving night, but you know, she went for it. And
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: then Dean see's Rory and just kiss And I really
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: like this scene. I love how this ends, and I'm
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: really glad that they gave they gave Dean this moment
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: with Jess, because boy, it was a long time coming.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: The whole time, I'm thinking, man, this needs to be
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a fight. It's like these guys need to just start
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: throwing hands here. I mean, enough isn't enough, and Dean's
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: had enough and it's time to you know, let's just go.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: It was go time. But it didn't happen.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: No, he walked away. It was kind of.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Grown up, very much, so, very much in keeping with
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the with the Dean theme.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Very grown up and walking away from that moment and
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: because yeah you can't they can get into it, which
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: would be funny or maybe not funny. I mean, I'm
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: just thinking of moments where you've seen scenes where boys
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: are fighting over a girl, and Bridget Jones comes to mind,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: where the two men are trying to fight in the
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: street to you know, Hugh Grant and Callin Firth and
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: they just it just it becomes so funny because they're
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: they're not good at it, and it's really because they
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: both love the same girl. Not about being knock them out.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: It's about the fact that they both love this girl
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: and they're trying to show it in their way. And
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I so but I do think it was very adult
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: of him to walk away, just say yeah, catch it later.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: There's a little little bit in her little thread of though,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: yeah you just wait, you know, I'm not gone, you.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Know, right.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the beginning of Jess and Rory. And
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: here's my least favorite question, but I must ask it.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Are you team Logan, Jess or team Dean.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I have to be Logan, even though I
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: approve of her, But I am team Logan.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Bolly tell me, well, sure.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah tv son because he's my boy, he's your boy.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: And once she gets to the point where she's really
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: you know, matured herself, I think that she can appreciate
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of what he's got in terms of even
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: though she feels that he because I watched a few
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: episodes beyond this as well, where he he's not loyal.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: She felt he was disloyal. She took him back. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: believed him. That's a mother's love. I believed him when
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: he said he you know, he didn't. He didn't. He
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: wasn't messing around really, but that's how parents seem to
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: forgive their children for their errors and mistakes. And so, yeah,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: my team Logan, I just have to be Yeah, he's
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: my boy.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I love those two together, I really did. I love
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the potential of it. Yes, I mean it's almost like
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: they share the same DNA.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Well, they both had were intellectuals.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what people don't give credit enough
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: credit to Logan for He was deeply intellectual. He was
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: a very very sharp guy.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, and I think that she is certainly.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Likes like, so smart that he didn't even have to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: try very hard in school.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, but that makes him look like he didn't try correct. Yes. So,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: but I think that that you when a girl meets
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: her match in that in that area, that's that's a
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: that's a beautiful thing. They can they can share, you know, ideologies.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's really important. And I think too is
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: that even though she and laurrel I have this you know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: humble home and everything, compared to what her parents have
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: and what Logan's parents have. I think that at the
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: bottom line of humanity is we're all people and it
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter where you come from. You can make yourself
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: anything you want to be. And I'm not saying that
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: as I dream to be this or I dream to
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: be that. I'm saying that if you work hard enough,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: you can be anything you want to be. I come
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: from very humble the beginnings. I come from a tiny,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: tiny town, and I would never have imagined that I
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: become an actress or whatever. But I think that anybody
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: can do anything they want to do, not just because
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: they dream. They have to work hard for it. It's
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: like when you know how many people tell you or
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: ask you all the time, I want to get in
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the movie business. I want to be an actor. I
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: want to do it, And I always have to say
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: to them because they ask me, well, how much have
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: you studied? Do you what have you done? Why do
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: you want to be an actor? Well, I want to
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: be famous. I want this, And I'm always that's the
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: wrong answer. You have to understand nothing is overnight. Maybe
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: it is once in a while, but even people that
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: are teenage singers, they're working hard as teenagers.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And they're talented as hell and working hard.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: And working hard, and so we all have to work
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: hard to get where we're going. And I think that's
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: the common thread with both Rory and Logan, is that
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: they both are intellectual, but they it might seem like
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: it comes easy to both of them, but they're both
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: they work hard. Yeah, And I like that she's got
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: a job and he's got a job. I like that
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: they're working young people. I like seeing that. I like
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: seeing that the screen. I like that example for our
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: young generation. They need to see people.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Go to work.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: They have to be there on time, they have to
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: finish the day out, they have to go through live.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: That's the way to succeed.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: You know. My love for my love for Logan is returning.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I have been I've been on a little press kick
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: about how I think all three of them are bums
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and she can find something better.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: But I gotta tell you, m h, I think Logan
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: was the one.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: He might have been the one.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I think he might have been the one.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: It's the one I thought had the most possibilities to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: lead an explosively joyful and successful life. For the two
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: of them, I think they both brought out the best
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: in each other. And yeah, I know she had to
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: wade through mitchemisms and but still, I mean, you know,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: even if there was no contact with the Huntsburgers, the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: two of them still could have been gloriously happy. Yeah.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: I really liked those two together. Yeah, it really really did.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: And I can see what the other boys were. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: can see that the bad boy I like it. You know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I used to like a bad boy. Everybody, every girl
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: likes a little bit naughty. So the bad Boy and
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: then the Solid Boy. I can I can see how
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: it's so beautifully written, the way this was, this all
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: came together, and the fact that it barked over all
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: of these years and it took all those years to
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: get to where that was with Logan, I just I'm
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: very impressed. I'm very pleased to have been a part
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: of something that was this well written, this well performed,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: this well loved, should I say, by the audience and
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: by everybody, and for me, I was just very very
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: happy to be a part of it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: You think Shira would finally accept Rory as her daughter
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: in law if that turns out to be the case.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think she fight it all the way, but
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: she's going to have to accept the thing or two.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: There's certain things and see there's a good conflict. There's
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: a way.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: To make story of that's all set up. That's the thing.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: It's really set up.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Beautifully, isn't it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I like that, Yeah, continue the storytelling in that regard.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: It's set up beautiful.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Oh gorgeous. Yeah, because quite frankly, shar would yeah, and
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: then love that baby.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Oh Sherery would have a cow.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she would have a cow. All right, so
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: you portrayed Shira for for just two episodes, right, Yeah,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: and you know something about legacy from doing almost.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Seven hundred episodes of Days of Our Lives as Anna
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Demara and over forty episodes of Dana Carrington on Dynasty.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did that for a while too. Yes.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: What was it like to play the Days of your
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Days of Your Lives character for forty years?
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Forty three?
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Forty three?
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, who's counting?
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I was only five five years old. Yeah, that's right.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Tears in your eyes about to become the Master's Champion.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I have to say that too. Has been an honor
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: to do this all these years. I did it in
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: the mid eighties, I was I started out there and
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: I did it for four years, and then I went
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: off and did Dynasty and other bunch of other stuff,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: and then they invited me back to come back in
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: like the two thousand and seven to ten or somewhere
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: in there, and then I came back again and seventeen
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: and I'm still there. I'm working there in a in
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: a month, I've got another show to do, so I'm
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: still popping in once in a while. So it's a
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: it has been because my character, she's a bit naughty,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: but she's it's like she she deserves life and she
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: deserves every so people kind of like to they love
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: to hate her lover kind of thing. Whereas Shira has
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: a Shira Hansberger has a really hard edge. My character
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: on days as a really soft edge in terms of
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: but she's greedy and very fun and she deserves it all.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: And so for me that has been a great joy
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: because I can make people laugh a little bit, and
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: that's where that comes from. With Dynasty, it was very serious,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: very serious and more like a soft kitten character, but
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: very serious as a as a as a show. Overall,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: there was no humor, whereas I was looking for the
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: joke and every other line. I like Shira. I love
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: this kind of that you get to. I don't care
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: if you're laughing at me. I don't care if you're
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: laughing with me, as long as you're laughing. I like
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: to have a little something. So that's what I love
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: that dinner table scene.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like that too. I don't think. I don't think
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: this particular art form can survive without it. No, it
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what genre, how dark you want it, there's got.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: To be some humor. There has to be. It just
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: grounds everything, you know.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just like absolutely and all of it. And I've
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: watched a few of your scenes and and and I
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: see where all of that comes in with you as well,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and your banter with Loralai and your banter with everybody.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: It's all there, and I know it starts to thank
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: God for the writing and for the way it's produced,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: but it's also you bring it to life. And that's.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: I like to laugh.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I like to have joy. I liked it, and I'd
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: like to get the intellectualism of what the scene is about.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: For me, great fun.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Well, the show provided plenty of laughs. Each episode is
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: just like a laugh right anyway, Yeah, joy to talk
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to you. We'll see you on the eighteenth.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I'll see you there.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: And thank you so much for giving us a little
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: bit of your day. I'm just such a memorable, memorable
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: portrayal of Logan Huntsburger's mom. Just a real, real master
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: class in acting. And that's gonna do it from us.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Thanks everybody. Remember, best fans on the planet. Keep the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: cards and letters coming, we really appreciate them. And remember
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: where you lead, we will follow.
• 37:35
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• 38:06
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• 38:10
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