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Method Man Talks Hip Hop Authenticity, Greatest Rap Crew Of All Time + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: No, he didn't and never had an original idea and
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Speaker 1: his fucking like non playing.
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Speaker 2: Let's let's go here we go morning, everybody. It's dj en.
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Speaker 3: V Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. We
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Speaker 3: got a legend and icon in the building. I gotta
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Speaker 3: spell it out. M ME T H O D.
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Speaker 4: They staying in interviews, it's all you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: When did they be hearing interviews?
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Speaker 1: Charla?
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Speaker 3: We were having a conversation before you walked in, Yes, sir,
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Speaker 3: we were talking about, you know, our annuals and going
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Speaker 3: to the doctor and this, that and the other. So
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Speaker 3: I was telling you know, we were talking about colonoscopy,
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Speaker 3: and the ladies in the room was like, yeah, they
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Speaker 3: put you out, And I'm like, it was one of
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Speaker 3: the best sleeps ever.
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Speaker 4: Right, it's the same stuff they get Michael Jackson. They
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Speaker 4: tell you that before they do it. That's exactly what
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Speaker 4: they said. I didn't want to say their name is
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Speaker 4: chut To Trade.
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Speaker 2: But that said they put you to sleep. They never
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Speaker 2: put me to sleep.
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Speaker 1: Impossible, right, because I did not know what the subject.
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Speaker 2: He never got a colonoscopy, He got a prostate exam.
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Speaker 5: You got you got ja, Yeah, I don't think I've
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Speaker 5: had a prostetate exam.
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Speaker 2: You have a prostet exam.
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Speaker 5: I had to coolons. You have.
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Speaker 1: Look black man, we're most acceptable to prostate cancer soon.
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Speaker 1: I mean I got mines checked first the first time.
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Speaker 1: At forty four. You supposed the way to your fifty
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Speaker 1: forty five fifty.
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Speaker 2: No, it's forty five to get kolonoscopy. Kolonoscopy.
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Speaker 1: No, it was fifty or fifty.
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Speaker 5: They just changed it for forty five.
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Speaker 2: You got to get kolonoscopy. That's what They sicked the
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Speaker 2: tube up your butt, all right, and they look around
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Speaker 2: for any polyps.
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Speaker 1: So for the uninformed, it's basically to make sure you
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Speaker 1: don't have cancer's tumor.
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Speaker 5: That's right side, because if.
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Speaker 2: They catch it early, it can save you.
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Speaker 3: You know, you don't have to go for another ten years,
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Speaker 3: so they know that you're free of cancer for ten years.
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Speaker 1: To say if you don't, what are the symptoms of.
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Speaker 2: You might not have a symptom.
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean the.
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Speaker 4: People that I've known that have lost their lives to it,
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Speaker 4: rest in peace. My man combat Jack. He by the
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Speaker 4: time he went, he stayed four. But he did say
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Speaker 4: he thought that his stomach was getting bigger, but said
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Speaker 4: he thought it was because he was drinking and he
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Speaker 4: wasn't eating bloated.
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Speaker 3: It could be blood in your stool, could be a
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Speaker 3: bunch of different things. Sorry to talk about it today,
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Speaker 3: but we got to make sure you go to.
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Speaker 1: That absolutely, absolutely absolutely, But you ca get blood and
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Speaker 1: you're stool from straining too hard, right, correct.
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Speaker 2: I never got blood in my still to.
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Speaker 4: Be I haven't personally, I don't know, but I can't
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Speaker 4: believe we having a conversation with meth about health when
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Speaker 4: he is absolutely positively probably.
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Speaker 5: Personally in hip hop.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm informed about getting a colonoscopy, I have to Oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to look into it. I have to
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Speaker 1: get it done absolutely all right, Well that's something I
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Speaker 1: have to do.
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Speaker 4: Once you get so heavy in the workout games. I've
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Speaker 4: been watching you for years on Instagram, but like, what
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Speaker 4: made you do it?
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Speaker 1: It? When it's been about ten eleven years now, ten thirteen,
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Speaker 1: one hundred years now, I don't know. It was more
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Speaker 1: or less. It started with insomnia for me, and I
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Speaker 1: had a membership, but I've never really used it. I
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Speaker 1: would go sporadically here and there on and off like
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Speaker 1: a lot of people do. But something just clicked to
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Speaker 1: me and said, you know what, let's go go see
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Speaker 1: what's up with the gym. It was about four in
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Speaker 1: the morning. I was having all this insomnia and it
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Speaker 1: was open, so I started going. I had already had
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Speaker 1: like my own program that I was following that my
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Speaker 1: training had gave me previously. So you know, one three
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Speaker 1: days started turning into four days, and four days turned
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Speaker 1: into a month, and months turned into you know, years,
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Speaker 1: and my journey's been pretty good. Man. I had some
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Speaker 1: good people around me helping me along the way as well.
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Speaker 3: The fact that it's four in the morning, you don't
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Speaker 3: have to worry about people in the gin bothering you
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Speaker 3: yet kind of quiet and alone.
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Speaker 1: And you know, it was a little community in there,
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Speaker 1: about five or six people that showed up every morning,
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Speaker 1: and they kind of welcomed me with open arms after
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Speaker 1: they so I was about the first month you got
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Speaker 1: at least show for it, like the first month then
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Speaker 1: they're like, okay, this got serious, and you know, I
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Speaker 1: was getting tips and things, and matter of fact, later
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Speaker 1: on when I found a workout partner, which is great
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Speaker 1: for anybody should always find a workout partner. They keep
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Speaker 1: you honest and you keep them honus as well. From there,
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Speaker 1: that's when the journey really happened. Because up to that
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Speaker 1: point I wasn't even like following a strict diet regiment
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Speaker 1: or anything of that sort, you know, because I was
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Speaker 1: that that uninformed. But over the years, having to work
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Speaker 1: out partner and being around these people that were dedicated
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Speaker 1: to it, picking up tips and things of that nature. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: definitely turned me into a gym rap.
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Speaker 2: Did you slow down smoking at all?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 4: I wondered whether that because you were always the old
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Speaker 4: g weed guy and you know, like you snoop bread.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I mean that's a that's a nice
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Speaker 1: little lane to be in and stuff. But I always
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Speaker 1: said I had so much more to offer and I
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Speaker 1: would hate to be just identified as just the weak guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I mean I think I've done a pretty decent
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Speaker 1: job of that.
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Speaker 5: No, that's understand absolutely.
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Speaker 4: It's interesting because they got the BT's greatest rap crews
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Speaker 4: of right right.
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Speaker 2: Wu Tanger's death ro.
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Speaker 5: I'm not disrespecting Death Row and everything that they represented.
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Speaker 1: I just don't know how it.
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Speaker 5: Can came down to Woo and death Row.
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Speaker 2: To me, for me, it's the greatest. But Defro was
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Speaker 2: not a rap group to me. They're not around the label.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what they judged a lot of
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Speaker 1: it based on as well. I mean, you got to
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Speaker 1: really think about it. Those are groups, you know, death Row,
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Speaker 1: but it was groups within groups, especially with a Wu
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Speaker 1: Tang clan, especially with the way we came in the
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Speaker 1: game as a group with the option to sign as
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Speaker 1: solo artists. So yeah, it kind of makes sense. And
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Speaker 1: I'm just humbled and honored in the same breath because
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Speaker 1: you know, death Row, they were what three years before
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Speaker 1: we even dropped, about three years before we even dropped,
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Speaker 1: and we had heard nothing like that before from the
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Speaker 1: West Coast. I mean, I was a big n W
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Speaker 1: A fan, you know. But other than that, everything else
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Speaker 1: kind of slipped through the cracks. Even mc hammler, you know,
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Speaker 1: for a minute, he even slipped through the crash because
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Speaker 1: we didn't really gravitate to Hammer like that. He even
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Speaker 1: knew it.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: It was more or less like you ain't hitting in him,
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Speaker 1: and you ain't hitting in New York. I'm gonna turn
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Speaker 1: his mother out, And he turned his mother out. He
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Speaker 1: did exactly that. But I mean to be up against
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Speaker 1: those guys, it's honor because, like I said, they put
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Speaker 1: it down like who I had never heard anything like
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Speaker 1: snoop or corrupt Dad's rage, any of them. You know
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Speaker 1: that what was it? Stranded on Death Row was the record.
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Speaker 1: That was the first thing that I heard from them,
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Speaker 1: and I was like.
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Speaker 2: From a Wow, you guys are.
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Speaker 1: Hold on.
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Speaker 3: I was going to tell people they already defeated, you know,
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Speaker 3: because we were talking about crews. They defeated Good Music,
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Speaker 3: Rough Riders, the Juice Crew, G Unit, and Death Row
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Speaker 3: has defeated Y M C, M, B T, d E
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Speaker 3: and n w A.
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Speaker 2: Now that the last battle is.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely battle is verseus Death Row, and the voting can
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Speaker 3: start right now.
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Speaker 2: So how can you vote? Let me ask the people
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Speaker 2: on in the back, how can they vote?
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Speaker 3: Dot com that's Kim Sorry's voice, b E T dot
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Speaker 3: com slash vote if you want to vote, and today
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Speaker 3: is the deadline?
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Speaker 1: Correct? Yeah, today it's the deadline. Slash go vote, slash
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Speaker 1: go vote, bt dot Com slash go vote. I mean
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Speaker 1: vote Wu Tang, vote death Rod. Vote with your heart,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I said, it's just
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Speaker 1: happy to be in the same space. With that greatness
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Speaker 1: right there.
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Speaker 5: Come on, man, y'all o tang man.
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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But you know, like
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Speaker 1: I said, humility is always gonna be my go to
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Speaker 1: in situations like this. You never want to make things
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Speaker 1: bigger than what they actually are. You let other people
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Speaker 1: do that for you.
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Speaker 4: How did you develop that relationship because you had that
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Speaker 4: relationship with them because you was on a mind made
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Speaker 4: up with Pop.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was weird because it was because I had
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Speaker 1: a relationship with Snoop and dog Pound. I mean I
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Speaker 1: had Snoop in my in my fore runner uptown. Wow.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. We went to the gate,
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Speaker 1: and I swear on anything I love each time I
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Speaker 1: ever went there to drag, would I put my money
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Speaker 1: through the slot and give me the weed it, I
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Speaker 1: bring Snoop. He opened the door. I'm serious as snook
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Speaker 1: and vows for this. Let us in. Yeah, babies running
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Speaker 1: around it. I've never been in this gate before, Like,
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Speaker 1: oh shit, so this is what it's like.
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Speaker 5: What year was this this Doggy Star?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Donkey style Snoop another Wow, And the Snoop
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Speaker 1: was in the hood in Harlem. Yeah, no, security. Dog
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Speaker 1: Pound was with us too.
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Speaker 5: Beef though what it's so called?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well it wasn't really no, we know those
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Speaker 1: are informed. No it wasn't. But the funny shit wasn't
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Speaker 1: we get back in the car corrupt look at this ship?
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Speaker 6: Was like, yo, good, this ship got ship, got sticks
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Speaker 6: to seeds.
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Speaker 1: You knowing about that choco. They ain't knowing about that chocolate.
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Speaker 4: This ship.
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Speaker 1: It probably was the whack weed down that I think
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Speaker 1: about it, this ship man, you know, shout out to
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Speaker 1: Benny Rat, b Rat, he don't want to put me
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Speaker 1: onto that spot, remember Benny? Yes, I know, I know.
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Speaker 5: So how did the record come about?
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Speaker 1: Like, well, hanging out with the you know, each time
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Speaker 1: they came to the East Coast, I'd hang out with them.
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Speaker 1: When I came to the West coast, vice versa, and
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Speaker 1: you know, Das came and scooped us up. We went
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Speaker 1: to dash crib smoking. He has some records. He's just
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Speaker 1: playing some ship and we just spin on it. And
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Speaker 1: the original song had myself rage, Dad's corrupt of course
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Speaker 1: red man.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that verse just got released, but I
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Speaker 4: don't know if it's a yeah, I can't tell.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real. Wow, from the story that I heard
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Speaker 1: through the interviews, Park was like, the record too long, anyway,
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Speaker 1: take that ship off. There, no disrespect to debt, but
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Speaker 1: it was more or less like he's thinking, I got
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Speaker 1: red at bedfit bed or this record that, let's chop
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Speaker 1: it right there. The shit too long? Took rage off
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Speaker 1: the record. But I'd never actually recorded with Park the
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Speaker 1: same way I did with Big. When I recorded with Big,
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Speaker 1: Tracy Waples in the background, she came and scooped me.
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Speaker 1: Tracy came and scooped me, And I wasn't supposed to
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Speaker 1: be doing the record, so I kind of snuck it
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Speaker 1: went and did it.
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Speaker 2: Why was he supposed to do it?
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Speaker 5: Because well, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, none of No, it's more or less because Wu
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Speaker 1: tang Rizza. The plan was, if we get hot, we
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Speaker 1: keep the money in the family first, then we'll build
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Speaker 1: what everybody else wants to wear, right, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean? And you got like your hardest artists in
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Speaker 1: your group at that point in time, going to do
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Speaker 1: all the records. You know, I did it twice too,
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Speaker 1: by the way I did the the what with Big
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Speaker 1: end then I went snuck and dead how high with
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Speaker 1: Redman sore. I'm just saying, I'm just saying you know.
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Speaker 2: Way so to break it down. So so Tracy picked
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Speaker 2: you up.
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Speaker 1: Tracy picked me up to take me to the studio
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Speaker 1: to do the What with Biggie Smalls that day, and
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Speaker 1: me and Puffy played Torchu. I remember that, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we definitely played Torch. I got his ass good too.
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Speaker 1: I think I did that.
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Speaker 5: What was puff torture?
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 1: I can't even remember. He was just saying, I don't
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Speaker 1: know it was I don't know. It was a lot
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Speaker 1: of I don't know. I can't remember actual game. That
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Speaker 1: wasn't just a he just it was just a skit
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Speaker 1: on the album. But we used to play that, you know.
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Speaker 1: We used to do it around the way and she
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Speaker 1: instead of snapping on each other, we used to play
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Speaker 1: Torch and ship. And I guess Puff heard the skit
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Speaker 1: and he wanted to play torture. So he got tortured
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Speaker 1: in that motherfucker.
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Speaker 2: During that time, Big was there.
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Speaker 1: He was there and he wrote his wrong Contrary to
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Speaker 1: what people say, he didn't need pen of paper. He
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Speaker 1: wrote his rhyme there, and I wrote my rhyme there.
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Speaker 5: Oh he so he had a pin in the path.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes he did, absolutely.
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Speaker 4: Are those first? Are those the first? Draft verses like
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Speaker 4: did y'all go back and change them?
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Speaker 1: I wasn't going back and changed it, like it wasn't
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Speaker 1: even I mean we're talking analog. So it was like
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Speaker 1: when you went there and spit if you fucked up,
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Speaker 1: you had to start over and start from the top
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Speaker 1: and spit it again and right wrong, right, he don't know.
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Speaker 2: Damn you ask one of the youngest people that, damn.
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Speaker 4: So's I got a question about that then, because Biggie
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Speaker 4: is his verse, don't tip me and then you go thho.
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Speaker 1: He wanted me to have some type of he said,
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Speaker 1: don't don't mess. It actually was m E. Yeah, he
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Speaker 1: said that means don't He wanted me to come in
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Speaker 1: right after that with th h O d man right
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Speaker 1: behind m E. But it didn't fall into the pocket
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Speaker 1: because I was I had already written my verse, like
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Speaker 1: I'm writing my ship, like I'm already four balls in.
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Speaker 1: But you want me to start it with some other ship.
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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I'll try. But it overlapped. They wanted
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Speaker 1: to wrap it over each other, wrapping over each other.
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Speaker 1: But it still works.
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Speaker 5: You ask me, oh, so.
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Speaker 4: His lyrics going to be m instead of saying me, oh, man,
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Speaker 4: I always like when I talk to y'all, it's like
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Speaker 4: unbelievablecause I don't even know y'all.
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Speaker 5: Shod is like Greek mythology.
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Speaker 1: Bro Like to.
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Speaker 4: Us on the outside looking in, it's like that's it
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Speaker 4: don't even seem real, y'all, like real superhero Damn yes, wow,
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Speaker 4: because we.
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Speaker 3: Don't never hear these stories. Fact they had two greats
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Speaker 3: and how they broke it down and how they that.
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Speaker 4: All the time, Like when I'm talking to people from
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Speaker 4: that era, it's like, yo, that is that.
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Speaker 5: It's literally like reading Greek mythology.
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of well, of course, because I'm not
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say, let's say hip hop was
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Speaker 1: in its early twenties at that point, stay still young,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it's like the fuck
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Speaker 1: a lot. You know what I'm saying. It's like, I'm
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Speaker 1: out in these streets twenty years old. I'm finding out
12:51
Speaker 1: what life is about. So it was a lot of
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Speaker 1: more authentic, a lot more authenticity. When you heard records
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Speaker 1: from the West Coast, you know it's from the West Coast,
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Speaker 1: right that that sound. When we heard UGK, we knew
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Speaker 1: that was down south. You know, it was a difference,
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Speaker 1: not taking anything away from the music nowadays, because whatever
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Speaker 1: works works, and I like some of this shit they
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Speaker 1: be doing now, some of that turn up shit. But
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Speaker 1: back then, we had identities and everybody was fighting for
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Speaker 1: their own identity, whereas it seems like now everyone's fighting
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Speaker 1: for the same identity.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you think that hurts music, especially with
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Speaker 3: this being our fiftieth anniversary because it's New York.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't have a sound Now.
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Speaker 1: No, that's gonna spark the mind that changes everything, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean that that goes against the grain
13:32
Speaker 1: because I mean when Wute came out, where were we
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Speaker 1: at in hip hop? If you really think about it,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't shiny suits, but we were in suits. And
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Speaker 1: a lot of that had a lot of that attributed
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Speaker 1: to wanting to see at the table where the R
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Speaker 1: and B singers in the R and B section, where
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Speaker 1: the R and B singers were to basically put hip
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Speaker 1: hop on radar on the radar and ship plus it
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Speaker 1: was hot. R and B mixed with hip hop was hot.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Puffy's been using that for years. He took
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Speaker 1: Mary J. Blogers said, well, maybe, Andre, but I wasn't
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Speaker 1: in the office whatever. But they took Mary J. Bliging said,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I hear these kicking pre mixed tapes
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Speaker 1: and Ship and they're doing fucking R and B songs,
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Speaker 1: but he's mixing hip hop beats up underneath it. Let's
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Speaker 1: do that may blows up. Okay, we got Biggie. Let's
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Speaker 1: flip it the other way. We're gonna take the R
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Speaker 1: and B tracks and let him rhyme on those formula
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Speaker 1: works either way it ship would do. But are we
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Speaker 1: to say fuck that hip because we were like that
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Speaker 1: R and B ship but it worked. If it wasn't
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Speaker 1: for that R and B ship, it wouldn't be all
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Speaker 1: I need. There wouldn't be one more chance and ship
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Speaker 1: like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Big Popper,
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Speaker 1: even montell Jordans, fucking uh. This is how we do it,
14:42
Speaker 1: which is a direct by the slick Rick. If you
14:44
Speaker 1: ask me, come on right. Children's story bottom line line,
14:51
Speaker 1: biting and sampling, it's not biting. I mean we ship.
14:55
Speaker 1: Then Bismarck he was biting all the old people with
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Speaker 1: all the samples he had on his ship. I I
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Speaker 1: think it's homage in more in more ways than one,
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Speaker 1: because a lot of these records. We grew up listening
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Speaker 1: to his children, so they resonate with us as well
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Speaker 1: as the audience that we came up with. So it
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Speaker 1: makes sense at the end of the day. I don't
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Speaker 1: think it's biting at all. But if you're directly saying,
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Speaker 1: you know, coming straight out saying people rhymes, you know,
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Speaker 1: and claiming them as your own, I think something recently
15:18
Speaker 1: happened like that. A record that was done by Ludacris
15:21
Speaker 1: and somebody else. No disrespect, okay, no disrespect to her,
15:27
Speaker 1: but she's saying I believe she said she never even heard.
15:31
Speaker 1: That's fair that that is totally fair. But when you
15:35
Speaker 1: get into the content of the record, it sounds like.
15:37
Speaker 2: Luda's area codes similar.
15:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but there's similarities in there. But I mean,
15:44
Speaker 1: if you never heard the record, by I mean, somebody
15:47
Speaker 1: heard that record.
15:48
Speaker 5: Somebody did you know? All I need was gonna turn
15:50
Speaker 5: into the big wedding song it was.
15:53
Speaker 1: I was scared of it. That was my first That's
15:55
Speaker 1: what I danced to. It't nice. I didn't even want
15:59
Speaker 1: to put the record up. Uh why because I knew
16:02
Speaker 1: what it would do. He be successful. Not in that sense.
16:07
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to be putting that R and B. Like,
16:10
Speaker 1: remember we had a problem with that. We had a
16:12
Speaker 1: real problem with that. And you never liked the sex symbo.
16:14
Speaker 1: But that that's that's something else that that that that
16:17
Speaker 1: comes with Like that's when people don't see the substance within,
16:20
Speaker 1: they only see the flesh. And I have a big problem.
16:23
Speaker 1: I get it. I can I can understand that. I
16:25
Speaker 1: can understand that it's for real, for.
16:26
Speaker 2: Real, But it was a hood love song.
16:28
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a Polish I mean, you went and
16:30
Speaker 3: you got your woman's paying tampons.
16:32
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but you can paint it any way you want
16:33
Speaker 1: to paint it. It's still I need love, but for
16:36
Speaker 1: another generation, you know what I mean, painting it any
16:38
Speaker 1: and any like you want to paint it.
16:40
Speaker 2: So how did they finally get you to put it out?
16:42
Speaker 1: I think it gave me fifty K. I don't know.
16:45
Speaker 1: I think it was like twenty five to fifty K.
16:46
Speaker 1: I was supposed to buy a car, Yeah, fifty k.
16:48
Speaker 1: I was supposed to by a call with it, but
16:49
Speaker 1: I didn't. I put up with that ship right in
16:51
Speaker 1: the bank. It's crazy to think I saw I think
16:54
Speaker 1: he was on math I forgot.
16:56
Speaker 4: I think it was when you were talking about you
16:58
Speaker 4: can't believe the money that these are.
17:02
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't see they took that out of context
17:04
Speaker 1: as well. It was it was more or less me
17:06
Speaker 1: trying to delve into the hustle of private jet flying,
17:10
Speaker 1: being so frustrated with commercial airlines so much that how
17:13
Speaker 1: are they doing this? And and and then me doing that.
17:17
Speaker 1: It was misconstrued, misconstrued as me pocket checking or or
17:22
Speaker 1: you know, fucking up the scam or whatever the fuck
17:24
Speaker 1: they're doing. I don't know, but it was just me
17:26
Speaker 1: being curious and it definitely got taken out of contact.
17:29
Speaker 1: But there are some artists that you look at and
17:32
Speaker 1: you wonder, like they came in rich, nothing like you.
17:36
Speaker 1: You wonder and shit, you know what I mean, Not
17:38
Speaker 1: not to delve too deep in whatever their backgrounds are,
17:41
Speaker 1: but it's like those finances come you know what I mean,
17:45
Speaker 1: Like came in this pet rich. Yeah. I'm not even
17:48
Speaker 1: talking about dudes that had their drug dealing lifestyle and
17:50
Speaker 1: they known in the street for that. But somebody I
17:53
Speaker 1: got the clear.
17:54
Speaker 3: Blue private jet one way thirty thousand coming back as
17:56
Speaker 3: thirty thous sixty thousand dollars. They you know, they're not
17:59
Speaker 3: get sixty thousand for a show.
18:01
Speaker 1: Well, I kind of somebody kind of broke it down
18:03
Speaker 1: to me. Okay, a lot of times the people that
18:06
Speaker 1: are on these planes are maybe they're staying in California.
18:13
Speaker 1: Plane drops them in California and shit, but it has
18:15
Speaker 1: to go back to New York. It has to go
18:18
Speaker 1: back to These people are basically taking those planes that
18:22
Speaker 1: are owned by these other people. So their flight that
18:24
Speaker 1: they have to take back to New York, they're getting
18:26
Speaker 1: on that flight, buying a seat basically, Yeah, yeah, which
18:29
Speaker 1: is smart as fuck, you know what I mean, pays
18:31
Speaker 1: for fuel, all kind of shit. But yeah, yeah, that's
18:33
Speaker 1: what it is. It is what it is.
18:34
Speaker 4: What was fifty thousand back then? What would that be
18:36
Speaker 4: the equivalent to now? You think at least twenty five thousand? Okay,
18:40
Speaker 4: so you put yours in the bank, Yeah, put in
18:41
Speaker 4: the bank. Like, did somebody put you up on financial
18:43
Speaker 4: literacy back then?
18:44
Speaker 1: No, not at all. And another thing that really grinding
18:47
Speaker 1: my gears that I even thought of back then was
18:50
Speaker 1: fucking health insurance some type of health plan for because
18:54
Speaker 1: you know, SAG takes care of a lot of Yeah,
18:58
Speaker 1: big time, big time. They're blessing, but there's nothing in
19:02
Speaker 1: place for music artists or even like you know, they
19:05
Speaker 1: leave it up to you to have someone to advise
19:07
Speaker 1: you on things of that nature. But you young, dumb
19:10
Speaker 1: and full of you know what I mean, twenty two
19:12
Speaker 1: years old, come into a lot of money. First thing
19:14
Speaker 1: you thinking is how I'm spend it? Right, you know,
19:17
Speaker 1: I mean you're thinking like yo CPAs and things of that,
19:20
Speaker 1: but you really you're thinking, how impost I'm spending this.
19:24
Speaker 1: It's like a bottomless you ain't even thinking about where
19:26
Speaker 1: the next one's coming from because it's coming in so quick.
19:29
Speaker 1: There's been times where I've gone on the road two weeks,
19:35
Speaker 1: come back home and forget what I do for a living,
19:37
Speaker 1: not really forget. I know what I'm doing, but it's
19:39
Speaker 1: so much fun. You get lost in it so much
19:41
Speaker 1: that you forget. You get paid for it, you know,
19:44
Speaker 1: and then you look at your account like, oh shit, whoa,
19:46
Speaker 1: there's a lot of o's. Where did that come from?
19:49
Speaker 1: Then it hits you. You know, it's a very it's
19:54
Speaker 1: a very lucrative business. I get why a lot of
19:56
Speaker 1: people want to, you know, just jump into and get
20:00
Speaker 1: their feet wet in and then try and hit big
20:02
Speaker 1: and it's like a lotto. It's like a lottery, so
20:06
Speaker 1: and it's a quick way to long problems. Especially if
20:10
Speaker 1: you hit big. It's like your mama good, your family good,
20:13
Speaker 1: everybody good, and now y'all living, y'all got generational wealth
20:16
Speaker 1: or however long it lasts. You know, in that same breath, though,
20:21
Speaker 1: we're not paying attention to our own mental health, our
20:25
Speaker 1: own physical health, as well as financial gains or financial
20:31
Speaker 1: literacy so to speak, and people in the midst of that,
20:36
Speaker 1: as well as being taken advantage of and deals and
20:39
Speaker 1: things of that nature. By the time you realize that
20:43
Speaker 1: you're in trouble, the people around you already knew it
20:49
Speaker 1: and they're already gone.
20:50
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, did you ever get to that?
20:52
Speaker 3: I call it the old phase, like everything is good,
20:54
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh yeah yeah.
20:56
Speaker 1: A lot of times I say yeah yeah.
20:59
Speaker 4: I feel like you would would have saved more money
21:01
Speaker 4: than most because you've never presented that lifestyle.
21:04
Speaker 5: Never was flashy, never the jewelry.
21:05
Speaker 1: No, he had a catalog that could always to be
21:08
Speaker 1: I could always get a show, right, you know what
21:10
Speaker 1: I mean. It's just the fact of one to get
21:12
Speaker 1: up and go do it, and motivation as a motherfucker
21:16
Speaker 1: when you feel unmotivated, and depression things of that nature.
21:20
Speaker 1: Plus you're not feeling as worthy as you were as
21:24
Speaker 1: you felt back in the past. It where it wears
21:28
Speaker 1: on you, takes a toll on you. Then you become recluse.
21:32
Speaker 1: You don't want to be bothered with anybody, But the
21:35
Speaker 1: bills still come. You still got to go out, so
21:38
Speaker 1: you do just enough to get by. Certain things catch up.
21:43
Speaker 1: I had a tax a tax thing going on as well.
21:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't crazy number.
21:52
Speaker 1: No, not even not like some of these people know.
21:56
Speaker 1: Like I said, I always lived a modest lifestyle. Still
21:58
Speaker 1: to this day, I live a lot of modest life up.
22:00
Speaker 1: So I mean, when it comes, I can't it's hard
22:11
Speaker 1: for me to describe because I'm still in that space
22:15
Speaker 1: where it's why do I got to get these motherfuckerings
22:19
Speaker 1: my money? You ain't got to get it, you know,
22:24
Speaker 1: But I know, yeah, and I don't know.
22:28
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, that's that's good that.
22:33
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask when you got into that, what
22:35
Speaker 3: made you have that love back again? Because, like you said,
22:38
Speaker 3: you were depressed, you didn't want to go out what
22:40
Speaker 3: what gave you that love?
22:40
Speaker 2: What gave you that inspiration?
22:41
Speaker 1: A few things people that I grew up with, they
22:43
Speaker 1: were in the studio making music, was asking me to
22:46
Speaker 1: come through battle rap. I love those guys, man, because
22:53
Speaker 1: you can tell, like, of course they get paid for
22:55
Speaker 1: those battles and stuff, but you can tell that they
22:57
Speaker 1: do it because they love that ship. You know what
22:59
Speaker 1: I mean. And that's why I even started and just
23:04
Speaker 1: wanting to knowing that I had more to contribute than
23:08
Speaker 1: what I had, knowing that in hindsight that if I
23:13
Speaker 1: would have did better or paid attention a little bit more,
23:18
Speaker 1: it would have turned out better for me. But knowing
23:22
Speaker 1: that and saying to myself that there's always time to
23:26
Speaker 1: improve and what can I improve on helped a lot.
23:31
Speaker 1: I started being more grounded, taking better care of myself
23:38
Speaker 1: as well as my surroundings and the people around me,
23:41
Speaker 1: and listening more. That's one major thing right there that
23:45
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't do. A lot a good
23:47
Speaker 1: listener is going to learn, So yeah, me a while.
23:51
Speaker 4: One thing I loved I saw you do when you
23:53
Speaker 4: apologize to the Destiny child, and I just thought that
23:58
Speaker 4: was dope, because that's something that you know, we don't do.
24:00
Speaker 4: We grow up, we evolve, and we do constantly think
24:03
Speaker 4: about people we may have done wrong. But nobody else
24:05
Speaker 4: just publicly said, hey, man, that was something that bothered
24:08
Speaker 4: me from the day it happened, like it really stuck
24:12
Speaker 4: with me for a very long time.
24:14
Speaker 1: And I'm in everything I said. Man, it was genuine
24:17
Speaker 1: in that moment. You know, they didn't deserve that ship,
24:20
Speaker 1: and I was just miserable. That's all.
24:23
Speaker 4: Nobody wants to admit that. That was the one that
24:25
Speaker 4: admits it's us. I was miserable pretty much.
24:28
Speaker 2: Did you ever speak to them after the apology?
24:30
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them. I haven't seen her, but you know,
24:32
Speaker 1: I've run into Kelly. I run into Michelle. I haven't
24:36
Speaker 1: ran Nobody runs in the beating like you don't run
24:38
Speaker 1: into be honest ship. But yeah, I'm ran into Kelly.
24:42
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I ran in the Kelly rolling in
24:44
Speaker 1: Flight club in LA, you know what I mean. Let
24:47
Speaker 1: her know. I was very proud of what she was
24:48
Speaker 1: doing and everything, you know what I mean. And that
24:50
Speaker 1: was before the apology years ago, and Michelle I seen
24:53
Speaker 1: her had a basketball game. I think she was finding
24:56
Speaker 1: Jesus at the time. Good for her though, advocate, Yeah,
25:01
Speaker 1: love her.
25:02
Speaker 4: When did you realize? When did you say to yourself? Yo,
25:04
Speaker 4: it's me, I'm I'm miserable. I knew that back then,
25:07
Speaker 4: Really yeah, I knew it. I just didn't want to
25:09
Speaker 4: accept it, you know.
25:10
Speaker 2: And you wouldn't make you miserable. You had it seemed
25:13
Speaker 2: like you had everything. You had success, you had, the money,
25:15
Speaker 2: you had, the life. It seems like you had everything.
25:17
Speaker 1: I didn't respect. I didn't respect anything. And with that
25:21
Speaker 1: being said, I didn't think anybody respected me. So I
25:25
Speaker 1: just wanted to go away and work on some things.
25:28
Speaker 1: And like I said, it worked out for me. Man.
25:30
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting everybody do what I did or everybody
25:33
Speaker 1: can do what I did, because honestly, I can fall
25:36
Speaker 1: back on a group that's iconic at any point in time,
25:40
Speaker 1: so there's always going to be a bag there for me.
25:42
Speaker 1: But the point is it's satisfying enough for me to
25:45
Speaker 1: want to go back. What can I do that advance myself?
25:50
Speaker 1: And I think I'm doing a pretty good job of it. Man,
25:52
Speaker 1: I'm happy, and I think it's resonating and people see it,
25:55
Speaker 1: you know, calling me Zaddy at fifty two years old,
25:59
Speaker 1: What is that. That's a good thing.
26:03
Speaker 2: Man, that's a good thing.
26:04
Speaker 5: She said.
26:05
Speaker 4: She said, they said, y yeah, they call me fine,
26:06
Speaker 4: a f girl, Fine air force nigga.
26:12
Speaker 2: So what got you into the into the movie and
26:15
Speaker 2: the acting and.
26:16
Speaker 1: When you do have to get into it knowing that ship?
26:18
Speaker 3: But do you feel a way when you have to
26:20
Speaker 3: audition because you are such a celebrity stare people know.
26:23
Speaker 2: Who you are.
26:24
Speaker 1: No, there's never an ego. That's one thing I never had.
26:26
Speaker 1: It was the ego and ship I do. I don't
26:28
Speaker 1: like auditions. I don't know anybody that really does and ship,
26:31
Speaker 1: but you I appreciate them. It's this I mean, I
26:37
Speaker 1: would suggest that anybody. That's because I get people in
26:41
Speaker 1: the music game all day. I would tell them all
26:44
Speaker 1: the same thing. Do the work, take the classes, read
26:50
Speaker 1: the books, because when you step on that set, your
26:54
Speaker 1: next look got to be your best look or they
26:56
Speaker 1: will not call your ass back. And when those people
26:58
Speaker 1: break bread in Hollywood, they break bread, please believe it, Yes,
27:03
Speaker 1: sir me man like I said, one day at a
27:06
Speaker 1: time and I'm just gonna ride it to the wheels
27:08
Speaker 1: fall off.
27:09
Speaker 5: What's been your favorite role right now?
27:11
Speaker 1: To Davis ro because nobody's seen it coming. Nobody expected that,
27:15
Speaker 1: you know. And sometimes sometimes I look at the dialogue
27:19
Speaker 1: and we get the scripts and I'll look and go
27:21
Speaker 1: right to my point and I look and it's like
27:25
Speaker 1: a lot of dialogue here, a lot of jargon. But
27:30
Speaker 1: I credit the writers for, you know, giving us something
27:35
Speaker 1: that fits the palette enough that we can digest it
27:37
Speaker 1: and then make sense of it. Every time.
27:39
Speaker 4: So my favorite memories when they do your high character
27:42
Speaker 4: and they'd be like, yeah, that was yeah, yeah, got
27:46
Speaker 4: you with Davis. That was fairly new right there.
27:48
Speaker 1: I like the one that I never miss I like
27:50
Speaker 1: that one because I never missed.
27:53
Speaker 5: Why the hell did they replace red Man with Yes?
27:58
Speaker 1: He wouldn't get the jat Oh wow, wow, Okay, at
28:01
Speaker 1: least that's what I heard, you know. Did I talk
28:04
Speaker 1: to Red Man about it? No? I mean we we
28:08
Speaker 1: close close. We don't like ship like that. Don't even
28:11
Speaker 1: need to be said, you know what I'm saying. But
28:14
Speaker 1: it happens. He was. He's not the first or the
28:18
Speaker 1: last person that that'll probably happened to. I remember what's
28:22
Speaker 1: the guy's name, Ball guy, actor, very good at what
28:26
Speaker 1: he does. Rock No, no, no, his name is actually.
28:30
Speaker 5: Rock rock, rock, Rock, Rock, rock rock.
28:33
Speaker 1: He's very good actor. I think he smacked the fire.
28:35
Speaker 1: He smacked fire out of Sonari Lathan in that Tyler
28:38
Speaker 1: Perry movie Rock.
28:40
Speaker 2: You mean old Sitcomradey, that is the sitcom.
28:43
Speaker 1: His name is rock, I believe. I don't know, or
28:46
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. That's not his name. But he smacked
28:48
Speaker 1: fire out of Socenarilathan in that movie the Tyler Perry
28:51
Speaker 1: Joint because she was sleeping with the white dude like
28:54
Speaker 1: he ain't what are you talking about?
28:58
Speaker 4: The bases, Hey, I can't think of his name. I
29:01
Speaker 4: know exactly what you talk about. Light skin brown.
29:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was let go on the show because he
29:06
Speaker 1: wouldn't get the jab and he was one of their leads.
29:10
Speaker 1: I believe I could be wrong, but you know, just
29:13
Speaker 1: to say that, you know, Redman, he made a decision
29:17
Speaker 1: and I stick by whatever his decision was. If he
29:20
Speaker 1: feels that was best for him, I agree with him.
29:23
Speaker 2: Got you you know what.
29:24
Speaker 4: I love man, And I don't know how you feel
29:26
Speaker 4: about this. I feel like there's no group in hip
29:28
Speaker 4: hop documenting their story and history better than Wu Tang.
29:32
Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is y'all got the
29:34
Speaker 4: television series.
29:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, y'all got books.
29:37
Speaker 4: Y'all had the documentary on Showtime. Do you feel like
29:40
Speaker 4: the story is being told?
29:41
Speaker 1: Probably that's Rizzi. I mean it's from his his perspective,
29:46
Speaker 1: so it's being properly told through his lens. You know.
29:49
Speaker 1: Of course, we all have our own interpretation of how
29:51
Speaker 1: shit should be or how shit should go. But what
29:54
Speaker 1: you have is what you got, and I'm a stick
29:57
Speaker 1: by him.
29:58
Speaker 5: That's all of it, is really like I got. I
30:01
Speaker 5: love the doc on Showtime.
30:02
Speaker 1: The documentary is all genuine. Of course, doctor is the documentary.
30:06
Speaker 1: But the show, I mean, I don't know, watch this episode?
30:10
Speaker 1: Is that true?
30:10
Speaker 4: No?
30:11
Speaker 1: I haven't only seen clips like on YouTube and stuff
30:13
Speaker 1: like that, and it's usually Dave's clips. People will send
30:16
Speaker 1: them to me. We did a great job, I don't know.
30:19
Speaker 1: I just couldn't get a grasp on it, you know.
30:21
Speaker 1: And I was watching Snowfall at the time, so I know,
30:27
Speaker 1: I know. But I've been there. I lived that already,
30:29
Speaker 1: that I did that, I've been there. I was going
30:30
Speaker 1: to ask for accurate, No, of course not, but none
30:35
Speaker 1: of them are actually, even the BMF joint isn't accurate
30:37
Speaker 1: at all.
30:38
Speaker 2: Loosely based, Yeah, loose is what they say. Back to music,
30:40
Speaker 2: You getting back to the music.
30:41
Speaker 1: You got that inspiration yet I've always been in the music,
30:44
Speaker 1: but well yeah, I've done three since. But the thing is,
30:49
Speaker 1: I do it because I want to, now because I
30:50
Speaker 1: have to. So that's pretty much why you guys probably
30:54
Speaker 1: haven't heard anything or seen anything. But I'm still there.
30:57
Speaker 1: Still there some of your favorite rappers, favorite rappers, I'll
30:59
Speaker 1: tell you for real, let's last one through three Conway. Yeah,
31:03
Speaker 1: that's my guy right there. You know, but those dudes
31:05
Speaker 1: like that was that was honor to do that because
31:07
Speaker 1: I love what they're doing. It's like it was still
31:09
Speaker 1: a place for lyricism and you know, just hardcore bom
31:13
Speaker 1: Bad beats.
31:14
Speaker 4: They go back to documenting the War Tank story. You're
31:16
Speaker 4: gonna write a book because I love the Ray kuaner
31:18
Speaker 4: you got.
31:18
Speaker 2: And his name is rock Man Dunball, just to get
31:20
Speaker 2: his name, SA, are.
31:25
Speaker 4: You gonna write a book? I think every member of
31:27
Speaker 4: War Tank should write a book. I love Ray Quarann's
31:29
Speaker 4: book stair Case at Stage.
31:30
Speaker 1: I love you guys, raw.
31:32
Speaker 5: I don't know if you read them.
31:33
Speaker 1: They all speak highly of you in there, you crackhead.
31:37
Speaker 1: Now I'm playing. I'm joking. I'm joking. I know I'm joking.
31:41
Speaker 1: I'm joking. Yeah, yeah, I mean honestly, no, if I
31:44
Speaker 1: if I did decide to do something like that, I
31:48
Speaker 1: like how Mike did his.
31:49
Speaker 5: Thing, Oh the one Man plays.
31:51
Speaker 1: You know, because I'm telling stories, I think Ice Tea
31:55
Speaker 1: should do something like that. You guys, get Ice up here.
31:57
Speaker 1: Ice got the best stories, bro, like and you know,
32:03
Speaker 1: Ice Tea's been in the game for decades, like we're
32:06
Speaker 1: talking thirty plus. You know what I'm saying, that dude,
32:08
Speaker 1: he has a lot. But yeah, I would love to
32:10
Speaker 1: do it like that kind of thing, like on the
32:11
Speaker 1: stage and just go through it from the time that
32:15
Speaker 1: I because I can remember all the way back to
32:17
Speaker 1: when I was two and a half years old.
32:19
Speaker 5: Really yeah, I can't. I can go back to kindergarten.
32:22
Speaker 2: Ill you remember two years old?
32:24
Speaker 1: My mom told me that I was two because I
32:26
Speaker 1: described our house we lived in when I was two
32:28
Speaker 1: years old. Wow, And we never stayed in any place
32:30
Speaker 1: for too long, so for me to be able to
32:32
Speaker 1: describe this house. You know, as soon as you come
32:35
Speaker 1: in the door, the living room, then you had the kitchen,
32:36
Speaker 1: here was opening here, opening here, we had three cereals.
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Speaker 1: We had uh Franknberry Bouberry, and we had the werewarf one.
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Speaker 1: Anybody remember that one fruit brew? All right? Two years old?
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Speaker 1: Then you go down this long hall. It was the
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Speaker 1: doorway here. That was me and my sister's room. Doorway
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Speaker 1: at the end of the hall, mom and Dad's room.
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Speaker 1: The reason why I knew that it was because because
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Speaker 1: each night one of us will fall off the bed
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Speaker 1: start crying, one of them will come get us, bring
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Speaker 1: them in the room with them directly at the end
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Speaker 1: of the hall bathroom. Two years old.
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Speaker 2: Jesus, it's a genius child. Two years old.
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Speaker 5: I feel like you got to tell this.
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Speaker 4: I feel like you have to tell your story or
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Speaker 4: how to start from there, because if you don't, somebody else.
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Speaker 1: I definitely start from there. I remember being pushed out
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Speaker 1: the window in my diaper. What it was It was
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Speaker 1: a pair of draws.
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Speaker 2: But you know who pushed you out the window?
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Speaker 1: I think my sister did snow outside it was it
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Speaker 1: was only one by the way, the house is only
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Speaker 1: one level, okay, okay.
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Speaker 2: On fieldough you're a baby, or if you're in a pample.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 1: Might have been draws. I was two, two and a half.
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Speaker 1: It might have been my jaws, but I just know
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Speaker 1: I didn't have anything on except that it was white.
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Speaker 1: I remember that much. And freaking um fat Albert coming
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Speaker 1: on television.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the wo Tank series ends with y'all having an
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Speaker 4: issue with Divine and that seems to be a common theme.
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Speaker 1: Everybody issue with divin. Everybody had an issue with divin.
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Speaker 1: It comes with the territory. If you're will taking, you
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Speaker 1: have an issue with Divine period. How he feels about
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Speaker 1: Mitchell one nickname Vine is coolest al Vine cool is
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Speaker 1: the other side of the pillar. I think that dude
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Speaker 1: did an excellent job playing Vine, you know. And but
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Speaker 1: the guy that really resonated to me the most, especially
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Speaker 1: when I see the clips, is the guy that plays power.
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Speaker 1: He's got his mannerisms to laugh everything that that's power
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Speaker 1: all fucking day. I think he killed that ship.
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Speaker 5: So you didn't help with your role at all.
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Speaker 1: And I went and spoke to Dave and I told
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Speaker 1: Dave Dave the reason Dave really got the part. David's
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Speaker 1: an MC from New York. It's a given the.
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Speaker 6: Mannerisms and all that shit gonna be. I was like,
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Speaker 6: do you you know what I mean, don't be method man.
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Speaker 6: I wasn't method man. Then be that MC that fly
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Speaker 6: HMC from New York and Dave did.
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Speaker 1: A good job. Man, I'd be wondering what you and
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Speaker 1: I just wanted him to be comfortable. What you right.
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Speaker 1: I could tell when he was uncomfortable front because you
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Speaker 1: have an eye for stuff like that. But once he
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Speaker 1: hit his stride, he was off to the races. It's
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Speaker 1: killing it, especially when you put the mic in his hand.
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Speaker 1: Some of them dudes is rhyming way off beat, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. But you know when you have
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Speaker 1: a couple of swords and you put him together and
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Speaker 1: it makes I mean, it's the wu tang, it's the slang.
35:23
Speaker 1: It's the sword style of running.
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Speaker 4: God Jesus, I always wonder what the conversations are like
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Speaker 4: between you and Mary saying, Man, me.
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Speaker 1: And Mary be laughing. Mary's funny as hell. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't know.
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Speaker 4: It though, y'all reminity like, because y'all got it both both, okay, both.
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Speaker 1: Mary cool as hell and ship. You know, I don't
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Speaker 1: wont say too much because you know, it's it's regular
35:49
Speaker 1: ship for me and ship whatever it's like, that's that's
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Speaker 1: a little cis right there, a little big sis she
35:53
Speaker 1: born before me in January. But Mary coolest hell. I mean,
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Speaker 1: what can I say is ship that I haven't said
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Speaker 1: already in the interview and queen she demands respect and she.
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Speaker 2: Gonna get it and she deserves it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I do wonder about the bond that people have when
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Speaker 4: they make a hat record though, what you mean, because
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Speaker 4: y'all are like y'all.
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Speaker 1: Like kind of married for life. Mary made me feel
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Speaker 1: comfortable first when I first met her. I met at
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Speaker 1: Puffy's birthday party. I think it was Roland when that
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Speaker 1: ship remember Roseland Yeah, she came up to me, was like,
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Speaker 1: bring the pain was my shirt?
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Speaker 2: Like wow, Mary?
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Speaker 1: And I had to tell her that love No Limit
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Speaker 1: was my ship and I started singing it to her
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Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, it was dope. It was dope.
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Speaker 1: Next thing I know, he was in the studio recording and.
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Speaker 2: Puff set that off.
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Speaker 1: Puffy shout out to Puff, Daddy, Diddy Man, Diddy love
36:41
Speaker 1: that dude. Man. Like people don't what they do they do?
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Speaker 1: They give him a spops they have to. It's like
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Speaker 1: Puff Puff that nigga though Puff been around a long
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Speaker 1: time man and I respect the ship out that dude.
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Speaker 4: Go back to tonight to this other fan that I
36:57
Speaker 4: saw you on, say on Math five, and you were
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Speaker 4: talking about how you didn't really liked.
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Speaker 1: The cal per Se. What do you mean the first album? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: because when we originally recorded it, there was a flood.
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Speaker 1: I remember, I heard about the flood. Lot of the
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Speaker 1: music got one. But I think you're being too hard
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Speaker 1: on yourself with the cow I mean, those rhymes. A
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Speaker 1: lot of those rhymes was written between fifteen and seventeen
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Speaker 1: years old, so you know, I had been doing that though,
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Speaker 1: some of those for a while. But the music side
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Speaker 1: of it, it was like making shit on the flyes
37:28
Speaker 1: at some point even it was just hard. It was rough.
37:34
Speaker 1: It was rough because we were we were basically touring
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Speaker 1: promoting the first album, and they had us way on
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Speaker 1: the West coast and We'll be in North Carolina somewhere
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Speaker 1: and I'm going in all these different Some of the
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Speaker 1: studios were so nasty, like had rats and shit the
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Speaker 1: popa stoppa with the stocking over it, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know like that. But we got through it,
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Speaker 1: and the best part about it was that the album
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Speaker 1: did well because it set the standard for the rest
37:57
Speaker 1: of the album solo albums that came after that. It
37:59
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we're really gonna be waiting for this
38:01
Speaker 1: Ray Korn joint on. We're really gonna be waiting for
38:03
Speaker 1: this soul dirty jointing, you know what I mean? So
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Speaker 1: on and so forth.
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Speaker 5: You a comic book guy, yep, So what if the
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Speaker 5: flood never happens?
38:11
Speaker 1: Where where is? My ship? Probably would have been five mics?
38:14
Speaker 1: I got four and a half in the sauce of four.
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Speaker 1: It was four. It was four in the sauce. I
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Speaker 1: think I for in a sauce, but a lot. But
38:19
Speaker 1: you know what though, And I'm glad y'all brought that
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Speaker 1: first album up because that first album and a lot
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Speaker 1: of that ship had to do with these women on
38:26
Speaker 1: this couch back here, Randa, well, Kim, not so much
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Speaker 1: Randa and and Tracy, Like, okay, that the source when
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Speaker 1: I first started, because that was Maddie and you know,
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Speaker 1: Maddie and them not taking nothing away from Kim, that's
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Speaker 1: my homie right there. Love Ken, I love him. I
38:43
Speaker 1: ain't trying to shade or nothing, but the truth is
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Speaker 1: the truth got very instrumental, and and and molding me
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Speaker 1: into the artist that I am today or was at
38:51
Speaker 1: that point in time. Got that album done, gave me
38:54
Speaker 1: all the promo and everything that I needed, and it
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Speaker 1: got and it went crazier after all I need drop
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Speaker 1: because once all I Need dropped, it was like I
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Speaker 1: was in the office every day meeting people that I
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Speaker 1: hadn't even freaking met before.
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Speaker 3: How does it feelings to work with these ladies, because
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Speaker 3: I mean these are ladies that when I when I.
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Speaker 1: Came in the lobby, he was like, I ain't even
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Speaker 1: recognize Tracy at first.
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Speaker 5: From here, give me a home.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And and then I
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Speaker 1: come into and I see Rhonda and Kim and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: this is a reunion right now. So now I'm comfortable
39:23
Speaker 1: because I was coming in here on my bullshit. Now
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Speaker 1: I'm playing.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it.
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Speaker 3: The championship matchup is tonight the b e T's Greatest
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Speaker 3: rap crew of all time?
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Speaker 1: Yeah performing different? Oh no, no, I'm not performing, No no, no,
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Speaker 1: I'll be there though, I'll definitely be the Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be hot.
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Speaker 2: How can they vote him website b e T dot com,
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Speaker 2: slash go vote that, I say, that right.
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Speaker 1: Kim BT dot com go vote with your stinking ass
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Speaker 1: that part and I want I love you, bro, I'm
39:56
Speaker 1: a fan fan. You really are. Let's hero to me.
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Speaker 4: I get around, I get around me and the wo
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Speaker 4: tang I feel like a kid, like hell yeah.
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Speaker 1: Damn y'all, don't get a third seat. And this motherfucker
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Speaker 1: my son need a job. I'm just asking this. He
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Speaker 1: funny as fun funny, yeah funny.
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Speaker 2: Why are you bringing with you?
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Speaker 1: You want him in the movie. You gotta watch my
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Speaker 1: grand baby?
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Speaker 2: All right, there you have. It's the Breakfast Club. It's
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Speaker 2: method Man.
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Speaker 3: We just need to do two things for BT. We'll
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Speaker 3: be back with more method Man, so don't move.
40:28
Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club on BT.
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Speaker 1: How is that Devin Franklin ship though he's funny.
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Speaker 2: Keep in lock. We got more with methad Man when
40:34
Speaker 2: we come back. It's the Breakfast Club on B E T.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. We're still kicking it with methan Man, Charlamagne
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Speaker 2: Cool