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We're Just Getting Started Understanding The Effects Of Micro Plastics With David Roberts · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 2: It's David.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, David, how are you doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm well, how are you today?
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  Speaker 1: Well, don't you hate it when the phone it says
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  Speaker 2: It happens, No worries.
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  Speaker 1: Well, even as an author, it happens. I mean we
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  Speaker 1: all sit here thinking, well, I should have could have
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  Speaker 1: would have done that book. But it's like I felt it,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't answer the call.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Indeed, this.
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  Speaker 1: Project that you're on right now. I gotta tell you
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  Speaker 1: it has become the topic, and it's it's like there's
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  Speaker 1: something in you that said, if I don't get the
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  Speaker 1: word out here about this, we're going to be living
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  Speaker 1: in a time that we're not going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to come back to help heel from.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a big deal for sure.
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  Speaker 1: What led you to it? Because I mean we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about toxins here, and people have talked about it kind
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  Speaker 1: of underneath their breath, but we got to get it
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  Speaker 1: into a full conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, what happened was a gentleman, a
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  Speaker 3: researcher out of North Dakota, took one of our supplement,
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  Speaker 3: which is from broccoli, it's called soul for fane, and
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  Speaker 3: he did his own a research project on it without
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  Speaker 3: us knowing it, and he showed for the first time
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  Speaker 3: that basically this sulffeane mobilizes microplastics for excretion, and so
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  Speaker 3: that was huge for us. And then we started researching
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  Speaker 3: it ourselves and then it's like it's like an onion,
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  Speaker 3: it just goes deeper and deeper, and it's, uh, you
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  Speaker 3: peel it and there's more and see, I think you
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  Speaker 3: know one some researchers out of Australia estimate we ingest
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  Speaker 3: the credit card size of microplastics every week, which to
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  Speaker 3: me seems a little high. But even if it's ten
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  Speaker 3: percent of that, it's still a massive amount of microplastics
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  Speaker 3: that we're ingesting. And that's that's a big issue because
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  Speaker 3: the microplastics themselves are poor and can each one can
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  Speaker 3: hold the thousands of toxins that then you know it
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  Speaker 3: get excreted in your body, and so that's that can
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  Speaker 3: lead to some big issues.
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  Speaker 1: Would you say that this is an invisible monster because
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  Speaker 1: we aren't talking about it, and when it does get
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  Speaker 1: unveiled and we really have a full picture of it,
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  Speaker 1: will we be able to eat it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's I mean.
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  Speaker 3: RFK in the beginning of April set aside one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty million in grants to understand the problem better.
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  Speaker 3: So he basically the grants are for measuring my microplastics
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  Speaker 3: in our body and then also looking at the pathways
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  Speaker 3: that they disrupt. So one of the known pathways that
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  Speaker 3: microplastics disrupt is is the intecrin system. Because one of
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  Speaker 3: the plasticizers BPA, is a known inderuptor at mimics estrogen,
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  Speaker 3: which can lead to issues in women with irregular menstruation,
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  Speaker 3: girls going into puberty earlier, men having low testosterone and
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  Speaker 3: low sperm count. There's a documentary in Netflix in March
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  Speaker 3: that should microplastics causing infertility and so that those are
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  Speaker 3: part of the reasons why.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it amazes me even doctor Oz has jumped
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  Speaker 1: onto this, and it's like, Okay, so I lived in
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  Speaker 1: the seventies, eighties, and nineties, why is this so new
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  Speaker 1: to us today?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question because they've been around since the fifties.
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  Speaker 3: But I think there's you know, it's the estimates are
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  Speaker 3: a one leader of seawater has eight thousand microplastics in it,
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  Speaker 3: and so I think it's been accumulating. But then even
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  Speaker 3: like they've been, they found microplastics in the deepest parts
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  Speaker 3: of the ocean to the highest peaks of a Mount Everest,
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  Speaker 3: and so you know, it's at this point, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because they're airborne, they're they're everywhere, and so they can
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  Speaker 3: get in our water and you know, in our indoor air. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: the estimate is up to sixty percent of our exposure microplastics.
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  Speaker 3: What we we get in our bodies comes from indoor air.
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  Speaker 3: And so I always say there's one thing you can
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  Speaker 3: want to do. It's put a Hepa filter in the
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  Speaker 3: room that you sleep in.
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  Speaker 1: That yeah, yeah, yeah, I have that. I have that,
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely do. But then I fear going outside because
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  Speaker 1: I know it's knocking on my door and it says
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  Speaker 1: come out and play. It's in the forest. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm going, hey, there's plastics in the ground. What are
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  Speaker 1: you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but by far, the.
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  Speaker 3: Outdoor you know, in most places, not everywhere, it's cleaner
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  Speaker 3: than the indoor air. And so that's because that's because
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  Speaker 3: if you think about it, a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you wear synthetic clothing, a lot of your clothing,
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  Speaker 3: if you have a carpet, if you have a couch
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  Speaker 3: that has foam, all of those are putting microplastics in
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  Speaker 3: the air. And so that Hepa filter can take those
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  Speaker 3: out of the air, but you're just if not, you're
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  Speaker 3: breathing them in. And so outdoors, you know, like again
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  Speaker 3: not everywhere, but but you know, in the countryside or
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  Speaker 3: in small cities towns, the air is definitely cleaner for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you think that one of the biggest blocks or
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  Speaker 1: obstacles that we're facing is perspective versus assumption.
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  Speaker 2: Unpacked up for me, what do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 1: In other words, you know, we we we all get
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  Speaker 1: this perspective of what we think microplastics are because it's
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  Speaker 1: all over social media and everybody's got their clickbait and
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  Speaker 1: everybody's trying to sell something, and we all assume that
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  Speaker 1: we know what's going on. We we have the information.
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  Speaker 1: That's the perspective, but the assumption is our actions because
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  Speaker 1: we're assuming we think we've got this under control. It's
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  Speaker 1: going to require more than that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right because you know it is silent
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  Speaker 3: and you don't you don't have you don't notice it
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  Speaker 3: until you have a problem.
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  Speaker 2: So, like with one of my.
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  Speaker 3: Family friends, their daughter had a regularmnstruation and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: have you, you know, basically thought about coming off of
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  Speaker 3: microplastics or decreasing your burden microplastics. But it's typically not
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  Speaker 3: until you have a problem that you start thinking in
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  Speaker 3: those ways. And it's because once microplastics gets inside of you,
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  Speaker 3: they get into your cells and they get engulfed in
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  Speaker 3: things called lysosomes, which are the digestive centers of the cell,
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  Speaker 3: but that your body can't digest microplastics, and so they
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  Speaker 3: build up much like food backs up into a kitchen
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  Speaker 3: sink and stops it up. And so that stop up
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  Speaker 3: and it typically shows that there's a problem because those
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  Speaker 3: pooress microplastics starts leaching out the toxins more and more
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  Speaker 3: and more until you get sick. And so that's where
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  Speaker 3: this broccoly our form of self porfane and having it
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  Speaker 3: basically what it does is it disolves those lysosomes, lets
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  Speaker 3: them release the microplastics, so your body can start getting
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  Speaker 3: rid of them. And that's huge for health reasons.
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  Speaker 2: You know. So you know it's a big problem.
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  Speaker 3: You need to basically decrease your exposure. I will also
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  Speaker 3: say like don't heat your food and plastic containers. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: if you have class containers, throw them out, put them
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  Speaker 3: in glass, even put them in and metal in your
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  Speaker 3: oven and not your microwave. And so it's just there
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  Speaker 3: are other options besides plastic.
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  Speaker 2: And you get a.
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  Speaker 3: Million to one hundred million particles of microplastics per serving,
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  Speaker 3: and so it just it just adds up big time.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't move there's more with David Roberts coming down next.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking micro plastics. Ooh, it's the evil invisible monster.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get you to see it.
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  Speaker 1: With David Roberts. Well, I got to tell you how
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  Speaker 1: my wife and I my god. Only it's just in
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  Speaker 1: the past two months since I found out more about you, David. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about you that I
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  Speaker 1: trust more than CBS or even even in people that
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  Speaker 1: are in presidential offices. The thing is is that you're
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  Speaker 1: speaking our street in the wave like you just said,
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  Speaker 1: the plastic inside the containers, and another one where we
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  Speaker 1: woke up. My wife and I went in to get sushi.
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  Speaker 1: She literally said, this is coming from the ocean. There's
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  Speaker 1: plastic in the ocean. She says, I really don't want
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  Speaker 1: to eat here anymore. But that's the kind of conversations
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  Speaker 1: that that you're starting, David, is that you're waking us up.
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  Speaker 1: What is it about you that we trust?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm just a normal guy like you.
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  Speaker 3: I do have a background in public health, and I
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  Speaker 3: mean I've been thinking about this, not necessarily microplastics, but
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  Speaker 3: but toxins in our environment for a long time, right,
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  Speaker 3: after I get out of grad school. There's an article
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  Speaker 3: out of France showing women having flame retardant and their
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  Speaker 3: breast milk, these nursing models, and basically that it came
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  Speaker 3: from them sitting on couches, sitting on furniture that was
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  Speaker 3: sprayed with this flame retardant and they leached in the skin,
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  Speaker 3: gotten in the breast milk, and at that point nobody
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  Speaker 3: knew what it was doing. But that's as a neurotoxin.
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  Speaker 3: And and so you know, these the things in our environment,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they're not neutral. They they definitely can impact us.
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  Speaker 3: And so having eyes to see, okay, these cleaning supplies,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when I clean the bathroom, my my, it's
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  Speaker 3: you know, my nose is burning. Yes, yeah, no, you
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  Speaker 3: know things like that where you know, I try to
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  Speaker 3: get as like I said, i'd open my windows as
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  Speaker 3: much as I can and get as much fresh air
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  Speaker 3: in the house as possible. You know, I have a
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  Speaker 3: reverse osmosis filter for my drinking water. That's a really
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  Speaker 3: inexpensive way to because I live in a city, I'm
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  Speaker 3: on munis of water.
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  Speaker 2: If you're on a well, you're fine.
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  Speaker 1: So I live in this forest and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the people that live in this forest with me have
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  Speaker 1: above ground gardens. Are they still toxic gardens? If they
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  Speaker 1: brought in their own soil it's above the ground, it's
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  Speaker 1: fenced in. The deer aren't getting inside, nor are the squirrels.
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  Speaker 1: Is it still a tox in place?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so, by and large.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if you compare our the municipal water to
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  Speaker 3: let's say Africa, you know, our waters, it's it's it's
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  Speaker 3: not perfect, but it's it's not going to give you
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  Speaker 3: diseases at least at least short term, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, there are trace amounts of microplastics, trace amounts
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  Speaker 3: of toxins. You know, if you're if you're in like
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  Speaker 3: a big city, if you're in like you know, Beijing
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  Speaker 3: or a lot of these Asian cities where you walk
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  Speaker 3: outside and there's smog and you get you're just not
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  Speaker 3: as well in fifteen minutes, those may maybe no. But
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  Speaker 3: like if you're in a forest like you said, or
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  Speaker 3: I'm in a city, a small city, I have a
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  Speaker 3: backyard garden and it's it's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just can basically pick pick your battles.
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  Speaker 1: So then let me ask you kind of a weird
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  Speaker 1: way the hell out there kind of question. We are
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  Speaker 1: currently surviving our first well surviving is a tough word
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  Speaker 1: here now since we're still just getting started. But it's
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  Speaker 1: the worst dry and droughts that we've had in over
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  Speaker 1: one hundred years. Do these microplastics have anything to do
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  Speaker 1: with this in the atmosphere?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not that I know of. I've not
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  Speaker 2: heard of that.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think throughout history there have
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  Speaker 3: been seasons of dry, seasons of wet, seasons of cold,
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  Speaker 3: like I'm in charltstvill Virginia and Thomas Jefferson used to
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  Speaker 3: go to the local lake and saw out huge chunks
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  Speaker 3: of ice and the ice. There hasn't been ice on
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  Speaker 3: a lake here in years, and so not since I've
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  Speaker 3: been here thirty years, and I've not seen it, and
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  Speaker 3: so you know, it's just different, you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's not yea, But not that I know of that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think microplastics is necessarily causing that. It's a
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  Speaker 3: complex situation.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, Where can people go to find out more about you?
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  Speaker 1: Because fifteen twenty minutes with you is not enough time,
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  Speaker 1: and people really need to do what my wife and
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  Speaker 1: I did. You gotta do the studies you've got to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get into what you're saying it and
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  Speaker 1: then activated and see how it's going to change your
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  Speaker 1: life because you'll start feeling positive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so, we basically are at Our website
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that you're talking about this, and the
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  Speaker 1: reason why, and I'm probably not the only one that's
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  Speaker 1: ever openly admitted to you, is that you talk about
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  Speaker 1: inflammation and different things that are happening to the body. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the dude that's going to sit here and pop
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  Speaker 1: pills left and right until the doctor says you're livers
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  Speaker 1: screwed up, dude. And now it's like, okay, so now
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  Speaker 1: here comes David. He's talking about my microplastics and he's
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  Speaker 1: talking about inflammation. Holy crap, David, maybe that's my answer.
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  Speaker 1: I need to start cutting the plastic out of my life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's too prong.
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  Speaker 3: Start decreasing plastics in your life. But also this broccoly
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  Speaker 3: that I'm talking about decreases in se pro inflammatory markers
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  Speaker 3: thirty twenty four hours. So you take a couple of pills,
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  Speaker 3: wake up, and you can feel the difference. See.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's why people have got to get in touch
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  Speaker 1: with you. Dude. You got to come back to this
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  Speaker 1: show anytime. I mean, the door is always going to
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  Speaker 1: be open. This is not just a May twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: six subject. This is an everyday subject, and we've got
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  Speaker 1: to work together as a community.
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  Speaker 3: As you say, I would love to thank you so
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  Speaker 3: much for having me on.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, take care