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10-15-26 Hour 3 - Jeff Legwold/LET IT WHIP, RIP, SNIP, AND PIP!/Vic makes a solemn vow · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: Hello, Leggy.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, fellas.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's go back before we go forward tonight.
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  Speaker 4: The Chargers game. We've heard the reaction from Bo Nix,
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  Speaker 4: and it sounds like he's in one right now. How
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  Speaker 4: much of this do you think is purely mental from
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  Speaker 4: Bo Nix on the struggles offensively? How much of this
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  Speaker 4: is just a talent and physical thing?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I guess I'd say it ain't all him.
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  Speaker 2: He just gets the, you know, welcome to the world
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  Speaker 2: of quarterbacks in the NFL. You are, you are the
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  Speaker 2: hub of the wheel, criticism, praise, you know, glory, grouchiness,
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  Speaker 2: all of it. You're in there. But I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think, you're looking at, you know, you see this
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  Speaker 2: a lot with, with guys in the NFL, you know,
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  Speaker 2: success has been such a big part of their athletic life,
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  Speaker 2: you know, as they get to the NFL and life
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  Speaker 2: was pretty good for Bo Nix as a young quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he had, you know, his rookie year was
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  Speaker 2: kind of gravy, you know, they were surprisingly better than
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  Speaker 2: people thought they were tenant, you know, They finish in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs. They make the wildcard round. He has some
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  Speaker 2: comeback wins and makes some plays off schedule and all
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  Speaker 2: of those things. I think this is kind of like
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  Speaker 2: his NFL version of Auburn right now. He's taken a
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  Speaker 2: lot of heat, and it's hard to know what to
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  Speaker 2: do with that unless you've been through it. And this
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  Speaker 2: is kind of his first trek through it in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL at this level. But mechanically, there's some issues there,
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  Speaker 2: and it's up to him and the Broncos. They've got
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  Speaker 2: the largest coaching staff in the NFL, and they've got
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  Speaker 2: some things to do with the quarterback, but the protection
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  Speaker 2: hasn't always been great. They don't run the ball that great,
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  Speaker 2: and on plays where Knicks does have some time, the
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  Speaker 2: receivers don't always get separation or the route concepts don't
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  Speaker 2: give him any options sometimes. So I think it is
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  Speaker 2: truly a collective struggle right now, and he's taking a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the heat. I think it's probably not fun
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  Speaker 2: for him right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Jeffrey, you've been around a long time. Long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a really long time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Anciently long. Do you recall before.
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  Speaker 2: Before the internet, before the internet?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 3: See, if I said that you'd be all over me,
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  Speaker 3: but Vic says that you just play with love. Cause
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  Speaker 3: I'm just as old as he is.
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  Speaker 4: That's why.
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  Speaker 6: Do you recall a press conference like the one Bo
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  Speaker 6: had earlier this week that displayed such vulnerability?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's, he's trying to be as honest as
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  Speaker 2: he can. And you don't often see that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: these days in such a public forum, uh, And then,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I see, and then he takes some heat,
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  Speaker 2: you know, people clip it and, you know, I've mentioned
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  Speaker 2: some things, you know, myself that struck me what he said,
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  Speaker 2: but I, I sort of, you know, it's, it's watching
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  Speaker 2: him try and figure out sort of what to say,
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  Speaker 2: how to explain it and like convey in some fashion,
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  Speaker 2: how he feels about it without just sort of unloading on,
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  Speaker 2: on everything I think is a, is a hard line
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  Speaker 2: for him to walk, but he's, you know, the last
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  Speaker 2: two weeks, I think he's, you know, you can see it,
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  Speaker 2: it is weighing on his mind and that's a hard
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  Speaker 2: way to play, frankly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Brock Huard was on with the morning sprint yesterday. He
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  Speaker 4: talked about what he gleaned from the comments from Bo
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  Speaker 4: Nix and, So I'm going to play this for you.
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  Speaker 4: Just get your reaction to it. Here's Brock Huard.
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  Speaker 7: This morning on the show, we spent a segment playing
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  Speaker 7: the 60 seconds of Bo Nix yesterday versus about 25
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  Speaker 7: seconds of Sam Darnold. And they were both reacting to
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  Speaker 7: the same thing. Turnovers, right? Getting the ball out of
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  Speaker 7: your hand. What are you seeing? And for Bo, it
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  Speaker 7: was fascinating. I think it was such a window in
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  Speaker 7: to what ended my NFL career. I could not turn
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  Speaker 7: the voices off. I mean, I just, I couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 7: When I got to the NFL, it was Mike Holmgren's voice, right?
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  Speaker 7: It was just Tom Moore's voice, very different voices, but
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  Speaker 7: their voices. And I could, I couldn't like shut them out.
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  Speaker 7: Like I got to do this.
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  Speaker 3: I got to do this.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think about that? His assessment?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's, I think you can see a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that in both, but whenever you see a
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  Speaker 2: quarterback struggle with where to go with the ball and
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  Speaker 2: passing open receivers and leaving clean pockets, those are all,
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  Speaker 2: usually a guy working through the long list of things
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  Speaker 2: he's been told. Now, you know, that said, Sean Payton
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  Speaker 2: even made it a point and has made it a
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  Speaker 2: point the last two seasons to say, you have to
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  Speaker 2: be careful how much you tell that position. So I
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  Speaker 2: think he recognizes and it's basically admitting what's going on. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, again, I, look, it's a highly paid profession.
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  Speaker 2: You get a lot of, you know, I always say
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  Speaker 2: the richer you get, the more free stuff people want
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  Speaker 2: to give you. And so it's, it's a good life
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  Speaker 2: out there in the land of NFL quarterbacks. But the
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  Speaker 2: other side of the coin is you are talking about
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  Speaker 2: a 20 something person, you know, trying to work through
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  Speaker 2: all this in a really public forum, you know, When
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  Speaker 2: I was 26, screwing up at work, I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: to explain to anybody except my sports editor and the
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  Speaker 2: 10 people who wrote me letters to tell me I sucked.
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  Speaker 2: But he's doing it in real time in front of everybody. Look,
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  Speaker 2: that's part of the gig. You sign up for that.
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  Speaker 2: And I get that. But we are seeing a young
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  Speaker 2: guy really struggle with a very public way of kind
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  Speaker 2: of learning the position. But I think sometimes we look
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  Speaker 2: past the fact the simple solutions are really the solutions.
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  Speaker 2: We always want to complicate everything. He would fix his
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  Speaker 2: footwork and they would, you know, again, I'm going to,
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  Speaker 2: I'll collapse on this hill, but if they would just
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  Speaker 2: put them under center, His footwork is much better under
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  Speaker 2: center because he has to think about playing quarterback. When
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  Speaker 2: he's in the gun, it's high school again. Drop my
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  Speaker 2: arm angle, fade away. You know, it's all about the
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  Speaker 2: athletic sort of feel of playing quarterback. When he's under center,
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  Speaker 2: he has to think about playing quarterback and going through
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  Speaker 2: his progressions. But that's not what we do. in the
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  Speaker 2: modern NFL. They all come up playing the gun and
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  Speaker 2: they all want to leave them in the gun. But
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  Speaker 2: I learned a lot from watching an awful lot of
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  Speaker 2: film with Gary Kubiak and Mike Shanahan. And I believe
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  Speaker 2: if you want to fix a quarterback, put them under
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  Speaker 2: center and it gets fixed.
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  Speaker 3: Great story today from you on Jalen Waddle.
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  Speaker 4: Is that today?
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  Speaker 3: When did it first come out?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this morning. And I read through it. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: how long does it take you to write an article
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  Speaker 3: like that? Because that was longer than like a typical
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  Speaker 3: midweek something or other.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm efficient, Moshe. I get it done. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: take me a ton of time. It takes me longer
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  Speaker 2: to research and talk to everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. That being said, Jeff, is there any threat? And
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  Speaker 3: there's a number of different reasons, and I saw Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton's comments, like we need to fix a lot of things.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any possibility as this season goes on, it's
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  Speaker 3: still early, that this becomes a bust of an acquisition?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how much is on him? How much is
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  Speaker 3: this on a putrid offense right now?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's an awfully good player. You know, I just
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  Speaker 2: find if you got to hand him the ball, hand
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  Speaker 2: him the ball. You know what I mean? If you
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  Speaker 2: got to throw it two feet, throw it two feet.
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  Speaker 2: I was shocked, honestly, when I went through everything to
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  Speaker 2: do this story. I recharted all the plays. I talked
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  Speaker 2: to coaches around the league to make sure I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: seeing things but the fact the only route in the
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  Speaker 2: route tree where Bo Nix has like one of the
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  Speaker 2: league's best QBR which is a metric like passer rating
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  Speaker 2: but is on crossing routes it's also the route they've
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  Speaker 2: thrown the least this year. So I cannot understand why
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  Speaker 2: the one thing your quarterback has done well is the
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  Speaker 2: one thing you're not doing. Jalen Waddell has two catches
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  Speaker 2: on crossing routes this year.
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  Speaker 5: Is that because he's not throwing it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I see an awful lot of plays where
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  Speaker 2: there's no intermediate receiver, which I also don't get. And
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  Speaker 2: I keep asking, and I don't get much of an answer.
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  Speaker 2: But it's unrecognizable to me that maybe one of the
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  Speaker 2: best catch-and-run receivers in the league has caught two passes
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  Speaker 2: on crossing routes this year. And that just tells me
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  Speaker 2: how much is... is sort of disjointed in the offense
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  Speaker 2: when they've got all these numbers and they've got a
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  Speaker 2: staff of 30 people breaking it down. It's impossible for
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  Speaker 2: me to think they don't know Bo Nix has a
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  Speaker 2: 98 QBR on a crossing route and they won't throw him.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy. Jeff Legbault with us on All Conversations with Legia,
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  Speaker 3: I bet you were up all night writing that article.
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  Speaker 3: Probably took you all night long.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I take it easy. I take it slow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: You know what's crazy, Leggy? We talked to Ian Furness yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: He's a radio host up in Seattle. And he started
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  Speaker 4: describing Seattle's team right now. And he goes, well, Got
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback that doesn't look very confident that's turning the
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  Speaker 4: ball over a lot in Sam Darnold. And they can't
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  Speaker 4: run the football, and their defense gives up yards but
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  Speaker 4: not a lot of points. And he kept going, like,
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  Speaker 4: point by point through the Seahawks. And they go, that's
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  Speaker 4: my team. That's the team that we watch every week, too.
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  Speaker 4: How similar are the Seahawks and the Broncos to each other?
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  Speaker 2: Well, very similar because they're both defensive-fueled teams right now.
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  Speaker 2: Any success they've had. I mean, the only reason the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos beat a terrible Chargers team is on the last
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  Speaker 2: five possessions by the Chargers, the defense allowed 19 yards
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  Speaker 2: in five possessions and turned the ball over twice and
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  Speaker 2: forced a fourth down. You know, they held on fourth
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  Speaker 2: down on another one. I mean, so they're very similar
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 4: Going back to that, though, Leggy, were you.
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  Speaker 2: I will say Seattle has Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, so
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  Speaker 2: that's a whole different other thing.
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  Speaker 4: Were you blown away when Harbaugh went for it on
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  Speaker 4: fourth down?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I didn't understand it. You know, I get the,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're 0-4, who cares type thing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: trying to spark the team. But in that moment with
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  Speaker 2: the momentum at that point, I mean, the game turned
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  Speaker 2: right there, you know, the minute the Broncos held them.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think enough of us have talked about
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  Speaker 2: the last five Charger possessions, the Broncos defense gave up
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  Speaker 2: 19 yards.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: And they gave the offense the ball inside the Chargers
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  Speaker 2: 50 on all of those.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That's why the defense won the game.
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  Speaker 3: They've won them a lot of games. I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And whatever adjustments they need to make tonight, they could
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  Speaker 6: be without three defensive backs tonight, three.
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  Speaker 2: Starting defensive backs. Smith and Jigba is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a problem. You know, he's leading the NFL in yards
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  Speaker 2: per game. You know, I think he's tied for the
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  Speaker 2: the touchdown lead and he's third in yards per target
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  Speaker 2: and everybody knows he's getting the ball and it still
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: Do you, could you apply like a Joker, you know,
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  Speaker 4: when Jokic is on one of his heaters and the
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  Speaker 4: opposing defense just goes, you know what, then score 50
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  Speaker 4: tonight and I'm going to stop everybody else. Could the
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  Speaker 4: Broncos do that with JSN?
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  Speaker 5: Are you nuts?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think what, I think what you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to do is, is I would expect them to bracket
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  Speaker 2: them and try and limit, limit the damage. You know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he finishes with 130 yards, but no touchdowns. That's
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  Speaker 2: kind of what you're looking for because he's getting the ball.
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  Speaker 2: He wins the rep right at the snap. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: his release is elite. You know, his footwork is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: He leverages defensive backs with just the innate feel that
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  Speaker 2: the great receivers have. So, yeah, I mean, it's, I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Like, he has 145, but no touchdowns. I
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  Speaker 2: think they'd be more than happy with a night like that.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Legwald, ESPN.com, joins us every single Thursday. Always appreciate it, Leggy.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks, fellas.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Legwald. Don't forget, Mile High postgame tonight after the Broncos-Seahawks.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Vic, I got a wonderful idea. How about we
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: just let him get 287 yards receiving and five touches,
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  Speaker 3: but as long as nobody else gets anything.
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  Speaker 5: This was Brett's idea. This was Brett's idea. Here, I
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  Speaker 5: got an idea, guys. I got an idea. Let's let
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  Speaker 5: JSN have seven touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, let's not cover him at all.
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  Speaker 6: Let's just go 11 on 10.
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  Speaker 5: Let him open. Let him do whatever he wants.
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  Speaker 3: Do you even realize what comes out of your face?
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  Speaker 3: Do you have any idea what you're saying?
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  Speaker 4: Do you know how sports work? Yeah, I know how
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  Speaker 4: sports work. No, apparently you don't, bro, because that was
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  Speaker 4: really dumb. My suggestion wasn't nobody stands in front of
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  Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jigba. It would be, instead of selling
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  Speaker 4: out to stop him, sell out to stop everything else
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  Speaker 4: and rely more on one-on-one coverage. Maybe let Jadé Barron
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  Speaker 4: have a crack at him. and see if he's worth
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: the salt.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, man, on tomorrow night, let's take their greatest weapon
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  Speaker 3: and be really soft on him. Let's let Sidney Crosby
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  Speaker 3: have a hat trick. But as long as nobody else
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  Speaker 3: scores anything, then the answer.
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  Speaker 4: Why do you guys assume that if you don't have
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  Speaker 4: him double-covered every single play, that he's going to have
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  Speaker 4: 15 touchdowns tonight?
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  Speaker 3: Because he's a stud! I know! Who cares?
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  Speaker 4: By the way, did you ask Lakewald, is Jalen Waddle
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  Speaker 4: a bust? Is that what you asked?
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  Speaker 3: No, I said, what's the potential of this acquisition becoming
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  Speaker 3: a bust as the season goes on? Because if you
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  Speaker 3: read his article, it's very good. And it's not all
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  Speaker 3: on Nixon, Payton, and everything else. It's also on Waddle
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  Speaker 3: himself a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Got to use him.
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  Speaker 3: You got to use him. Yeah, but the first paragraph
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  Speaker 3: was referring to the ripped off helmet and the frustration.
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  Speaker 4: You know what's funny? The Broncos, two of their first-round
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  Speaker 4: picks that they've used over the last few years, one
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  Speaker 4: of them's on Jalen Waddle, who they refused to get
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  Speaker 4: the football. The other one's on Jadé Barron, who did
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  Speaker 4: not play at all up until a week ago.
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  Speaker 3: It's really weird. Two first-rounders.
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  Speaker 3: can you tell me about him? Well, I just think
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: that First of all, I like him as a guy
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: an awful lot. I think he's kind of like one
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: of those Cogliano type of guys where maybe not the
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: most– he didn't stay in the NHL as long as
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Cogs did, obviously, but thinks the game at a high level,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: is a good coach. He is just a smart guy,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: very good guy. I like everything about this hire. I'm
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: glad he's back with the Colorado Avalanche. And he only
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: played here for a couple of years. But Rikes knows
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: him well. They were teammates. He's just an overall good dude.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I think a terrific hire.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Well, again, power play, looks like it got a little
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: bit better this year. Still not great, I would say.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: So he's taking over a position where I think he
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: needs some help.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I think any fresh idea to come in with that
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: is absolutely fine with me. Hey, where was Brett? He
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: was with Vancouver last year with footer, and then they
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: all got the Ziggy. Okay.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: So he was just on the couch up until this?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Gotcha. And I will say, I have talked to him.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: And he is pumped to be with the Colorado Avalanche again,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: this time in a coaching role. So this is really cool.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: What's Footer doing? Is he just kind of hanging right now, too?
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: No, he is the assistant coach with Utah, right? Oh,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: that's right. Yeah, Utah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: So Brett McLean has been hired for the— McLean, sorry.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Hang on. To replace Dave Haxtell, who left for the
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Arizona State job earlier today.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Now, looking towards tonight.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: It'll be a little chilly.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: It's going to be chilly. I'm fully on board with
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: the Vic Lombardi approach. First snap.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Huck it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Let's go.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Just huck it. Let's go.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Get somebody going. Get Jalen Waddle, deep post downfield.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Steven, I don't care if it's thick.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: And just let it rip.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I don't either.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: I might throw an interception on.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: The first guy. On a bomb. Just get it out
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: of your system early. You want to get feeling good? Vic,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: this is for you, baby. You want to let it rip? Okay.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: You know what I want to do, Nelly? I want
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: to let it rip, baby. Uh, yeah, uh. Rip it right.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Rip it, baby. Rip it all night. Yeah.
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: Come on, let it rip. Let it rip, baby. Yeah,
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: let it rip tonight, man.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: In fact, I'll take it a step further. I don't
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: want Sean Payton's voice in Bo Nix's headset. I want
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: that song. 100%.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Crank it, Nelly. I want this. Who cares? Who cares?
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Are they allowed to do that? Who cares? Can he
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: play music? Can he do it like Mosier or what
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Hastings does where he plays music just up to the microphone?
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Can he do that?
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: What was that movie with Keanu Reeves where he's coaching
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: that Chicago baseball little league team?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Hardball. Hardball.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Do you remember the scene?
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Respect for G-Baby.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the kid wanted to hear music. Oh, it was
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Big Papa.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And he had.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: They didn't allow him to do it in the championship game,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: and so everybody had to sing, I love it when
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: you call me Big Pop.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Everybody had to do that.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: I think music, for example, when I run a lot
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: and I bike a lot, I don't know how people
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: who do both of those activities do.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: It without music in their ears. Like, you guys are crazy.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you do it. Yeah, it's a weird,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't mow the lawn without tunes in
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: my ears. You know what I mean?
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: I can't.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: You got to have the tunes flowing, and you want
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: to let it rip, you want to let it whip,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: you want to let it snip, or you want to
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: let it pip. I don't care. I'm with Vic. I'm
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: with you. Throw that pig tonight. Anybody who calls a
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: running play, or actually, if you audible into a running play,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: you're cut.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Bo.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Bo, listen to me. I want you to throw an
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: interception tonight. I want it to happen. I want you
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: to take a shot. I want you to put the
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: ball in danger. I want you to give yourself a shot. Well, you're... No,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I'm dead serious, Moshe. I want him to put the
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: ball in a dangerous place tonight.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I want to see it. I want to see confidence.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I want to see the confidence of I can make
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: the throw.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: That's what I want to see.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Chaos.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Seattle's defense is really good. You may get your wish, Brett,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: because their defense is the number one defense in the
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: league in interceptions per pass attempt against them. Great.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Challenge.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Great. Let's go. They're number one in the league in
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: yards per game, giving up at 251.2. Their defensive DVOA
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: is overall number one efficient. They're a really good defensive team,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: so if you want to let it whip, you want
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: to let it rip, what else you want to do, Brett?
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Bagged on. Whatever you want, man, you're probably going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: get you an opportunity because this defense is really good.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Let's go get it.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: You know what else I want? What I want tonight?
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I want him to let it whip, rip, drip, pip.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: I also want him to let it rip to a
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: certain person. I want it to be to a guy
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: we just talked to Jeff Legwald about.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Dylan Waddle?
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: So I want to let it whip and let it
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: whip to somebody in particular.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: We're just going to make everything a song.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Waddle baby, waddle baby, waddle baby, waddle baby, waddle baby.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: I know it's wobble, but in this case, it's waddle.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: We're going to let it whip to wobble.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: To waddle, yeah. That sounds fine. I've already had my
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: first argument with my daughter.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: I'm paying for a wedding. I said, this is on
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: the playlist. And she says, no.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I said, yes, it is. Or I'm not paying for
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: your wedding. If this is not on the playlist, no wedding.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Is that a fair?
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: We're going to let it whip.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: .
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I couldn't think of
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: a song with Sutton in it, so we got Waddle. Hey,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: just a quick aside. We'll get back to the game
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: in a second. I just looked, for those who are interested,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: at Mel Kiper's Big Board podcast. heading into the draft.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: Come on, let DMACC do this. DMACC does this stuff
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: like three years in advance.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: It's a game.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on. We're going to play a game.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: That's all a charade.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Don't look at it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Are you looking at it?
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: No, I'm looking at songs with Sutton in it. There's
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: a song called the Sutton Poop Song. Jesus. A novelty
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: track by the odd man who sings about poop, puke,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: and pee.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, great.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Great song.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: I will give you guys $ 10 if you can tell
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: me who's number two on his big board, the first
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: quarterback on it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: CJ Karr.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: It is not C.J.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Carr.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Because number one is Jeremiah Smith. Talking about who? Mel
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Kuyper's big board heading into next year's draft. His number
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: one quarterback on the board, number two player overall. So, Vic,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: you lose. No $ 10 for you.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Camario.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: No, he's not eligible.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: No, he's not. He's too young. I thought he was
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: going to be 21.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: No, he's a sophomore.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, jeez. My bad. Why did I think he was.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Go ahead. So you lose on the 10 bucks. I'll
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: give you two more. I'll give you each one more guess.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not Arch.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: It's not going to be that Mensah kid. He can't...
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: It's going to be.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Mensah's fourth on his list.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: It's either going to be Connor Stockton.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Gunner Stockton.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Gunner Stockton or... It's not him.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: It can't be Arch.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: It's not Arch?
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Okay. It's going to be.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Is it the kid? Is it the kid? It's Chandler.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: So it's... It's not Shambles. Shambles.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: All right. Now I got it. All right. Now I
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: got it. All right. Now it's not the Miami. It's
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: not Mensah.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: No, he's fourth.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Okay. Hold on. Now let me really think about it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah. See, I told you, I gave you 10 bucks.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: You guys fail.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Saying what is not Julian.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: What conference is he in? Hoover? He's in the Big 12.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Hoover?
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's in the Big 12. Okay, hold on. Now
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I got it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Now I got it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Now, just allow me to relax. Yeah, yeah, of course.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, settle in. Get nice and cozy, yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Let me think through this a little bit.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Why are you going on things?
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I'm not.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: He's cheating again.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: He's cheating again, isn't he?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Isn't he? I can't even be on my computer.
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: He's cheating.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I see clicking. I see clicking.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Most, your insecurities of a... We know you lack the knowledge.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know who would be in the Big 12.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know who it would be.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: It's Oklahoma State's Drew Messmaker.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I would have never gotten that. Ever, right? No, not
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: in a million years.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: He is the number two player on Mel Kuyper's big
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: board right now.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Moshe, why do you cheat at every game we play?
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of clicking going on. I said, no computers.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: You started clicking.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not, there's nothing college football related in my face
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: at all. I've lost, I can't do games anymore with you.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. We can't even play the feud.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Messmaker's number one quarterback on his board, second overall. Mensah
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: is fourth. Chambliss is sixth. CJ Carr is eighth.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Eighth?
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Austin Simmons out of Missouri is 10th.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: That kid made me, I told you.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: So we just had five.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I just named five quarterbacks, okay? I said, if you
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: can't beat them, join them. And that's exactly what I
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: did last week. And one of my reasons was what, Brett?
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: That that quarterback is badass.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Yes. So it's five quarterbacks I've just named. At 24th
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: on his board is Arch, and at 25th is Dante Moore.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Here's why I think that's interesting. Number one, the whole
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: tanking for Arch thing. I told you guys, watch him.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: He's a good quarterback, but he's not that. He's not
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: that guy. Here's what I think is really interesting, and
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I mentioned this last year. Dante Moore could have went
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: pro last year. Dante Moore is likely going to be
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: picked in the top five last year. Dante Moore has
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: tanked his stock this year.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Well, he got injured, and his team overall has not
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: played great football.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's different now because you're making that money back,
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: staying in college.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: True, but what's the goal here? Well, the goal is
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: to make money, money me.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: That's the goal. The goal is to make money.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: And if you foresee yourself making more money by staying
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: rather than going, money me.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: But college doesn't pay you potentially $ 55 to $ 60 million
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: a year. The money he would have made being picked
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: in the top five would have been at least, you
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: would have to think, I don't know what he makes,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: close to what he's making in college or more. I mean,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: your top five pick, those guys are making what? 12 million,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: 10 million a year, something like that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on where you're drafted.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I said top five.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Like top five.
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: So I don't know. Just weird to me.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: So the Oklahoma State kid, he's the one that went airborne, right? Yes.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Against Oregon. Yes. Where he absolutely just leapt into the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: ether and got smoked and scored that epic touchdown. Yes.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: You know the story behind him, by the way?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Is he the kid that played at North Texas? Yes.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: You know the story behind him?
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: No.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: He did not start at quarterback in high school.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: He was a safety and a punter and a backup
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: quarterback in high school. He walked on to North Texas
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: and became the starter in 2025.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: That's unreal.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Threw for 4,000 yards, transferred to Oklahoma State.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: That's unreal that a guy can do that, process a
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: defense when he doesn't play the position until he gets
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: to college.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy?
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Isn't North Texas.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: North Texas? North Texas?
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Are they the Bobcats or the Mean Green? I thought
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: they were another one of those boys.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Wild cats or something.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Where's Chad Andrus, man? He went there.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: What are they?
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: The Mean Green? Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Boom.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Eat that, Vic. You probably cheated.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Eat it. I'm sorry.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I'll never trust you again.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: Do you want Nelly to throw the.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: When I say no computers, and you start clicking away.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Do you want Nelly to see the pictures?
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not uncomfortable at all. Do you want Nelly to
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: throw the... You've lost... Sorry, dude.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: I will not trust you in any games we play
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: because you are now a multiple offender.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: I just want to trust my friend. That's all I want.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Jesus God, you guys.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I just want to trust my friend.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Erroneous, and that's slander, to be honest with you. It's slanderous.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: How can we play Family Feud anymore?
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: It's libelous, is what it is. And churlish? And churlish.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: What does he say at the end of that substitute
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: teacher sketch?
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: That's so good. God, that's one of my favorite sketches
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: of all time.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Does he say libelous and churlish?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Is that what he says?
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you guys are talking about.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: The Key and Peahill sketch where he's the substitute teacher.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Key Hill and Peahill sketch. So good.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Those guys are genius.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Blake. Blake.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: If you missed the Nuggets game last night, preseason, the
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: penultimate preseason game, they wrap it up tomorrow night in
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: LA against the Lakers.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Here's what you missed.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: Julian Strother got hurt. And Julian Strother, I thought, has
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: had a very good preseason. The extent of that injury
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: remains unknown. His leg buckled underneath him. He'll undergo an
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: MRI today. Hopefully it's not a devastating type of injury,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: but he had to be helped off the court.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: So I guess the best possible scenario would be just
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: a sprained MCL or something of that nature?
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just a sprain.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: Either way, it's not helpful because he was coming on
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: and he wanted to be a part of that secondary rotation,
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: and this is going to hurt his cause.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: It does open the door for a Cam Whitmore who.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: Was looking to make this roster, and I think Cam
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: last night, 17 points.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: He was 7-13. He's strong.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: He's a bull. He can get to the rim.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: I think that might cement him a spot.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: We shall see.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I was just going to say.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: I really hope he's all right. I mean, Julian Strother
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: is somebody, it feels like every time he's starting to
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: get it, he has some setback like this every single time.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: And look, I was screaming in the playoffs, like Christian
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Brown's too hurt. You can't play him. He's not helping.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: He's hurt. He's actively hurting by, by bravely attempting to
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: play through an injury. I said, give Julian Strother some run.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Never happened. You know, Vic, I'm glad you said that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: about Cam Whitmore because I really haven't paid much attention
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: to him in his career, but now with the Nuggets.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: And I look at him and I thought, this guy's thick.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: He's got a football body. Yeah, he's kind of a bigot.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Exactly right. I like that. And you know what? They
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: can use that, to be honest with you.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: They need someone who can sort of bully his way
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: to the rim.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Sounds good.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: One last reminder, your keyword for this hour is places.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: So text that in your first and last name to 303-504-0925.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Gives you a chance to get in the building lower
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: level tickets to the Nuggets home opener.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: It was insubordinate and churlish.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Insubordinate and churlish. Well, you can listen to us anywhere
• 33:03
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  Speaker 3: Denise, Denise, Denise.
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: Get out of my damn classroom before I break my
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: foot off in your ass.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Insubordinate and churlish.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: This game isn't getting to 40 points, is it?
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: If you can find me without defensive scores, I doubt
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: that it gets to, I doubt it gets to 40.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I hope I'm wrong. This feels like it's going to
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: be another laborious game.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: And I'm fine with it. If the Broncos, again, I
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: vow to the public.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: Hey, public, listen.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: No matter how the Broncos do it, if they emerge
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: tonight with more points than the Seahawks, you will not
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: hear me complain about the offense tomorrow. This is one
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: of those games where I don't care how you get
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: to the finish line.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Just get there. I promise you. I vow it on
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: my honor.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: And what's happening tonight is the Broncos are going to
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: be without Talanoa Hofanga. They're going to be without Pat Sertan.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Riley Moss is questionable with that rib injury. On the
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Seahawks side, they're going to be without Charbonnet for another week. See,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: I was looking at the— Chaz Surratt and Drake Thomas
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: are both out for that. By the way, injury report
• 34:26
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• 34:29
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• 34:33
  Speaker 4: partner of the Denver Broncos. I have 18 reads I'm
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: trying to sift through right now.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: My goodness, the amount of time it takes for you
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: to read that.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Can you guys share my vow? Can we share vows? Yeah, dude,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I'm in with your vow. They're going to be four.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I think I'm actually looking forward to it. I think
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: they're going to be a four and two team. And
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: the fact that we get to nitpick over the way
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: the offense operates and blah, blah, blah. Yes. That's actually
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: a gift. Because we get to nitpick over... You know,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: stuff that's making them 4-2.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: So we can exchange vows right now.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Vows, yes.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: I vow to honor this team if it wins tomorrow morning.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: No matter how it wins, I shall not say anything negative,
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: critical about the offense.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Well, see, I can't promise that.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: I can't go that far. If they don't get a
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: first down the entire game and the defense has three
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: pick sixes, I'm going to say something about the offense.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Either you're going to share my vow or you're not. No,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: then I'm not sharing your stupid vow. No, because that's...
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: No.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: No.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Well, I will say... Well, not be.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I will make you this promise. If you win tonight,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: no matter how you win, it is a good win
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: and will be treated as such. Doesn't mean if you
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: win that game 10-7... and you move the ball for
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: 180 yards, I'm not going to have something to say
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, they've got to be better than 1 for
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: 12 on third down conversions, right?
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: If you win, you win tonight against a very good team,
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: a defending champion, in a game that, to be honest
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: with you, when the schedule came out, you did not
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: expect to win this game.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Let's be honest.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: And it would put them at 4-2 through the toughest
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: six-game schedule in Broncos history to start a season.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: And that's damn good.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: You know what's really interesting is that It feels like
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: over the last few years, Moj, we always talk about
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: playing at home. Nuggets home games in the playoffs or
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Avs home games in the playoffs. I don't know how
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: much that really factors into winning and losing, honestly, because
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: it's been kind of flipped in the other direction. Didn't
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: the Avs have their best road record last year? Is
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: that what it was?
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 29 wins.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: And at home, it was like 500.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: The Nuggets had their best road record last season as well.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: And at home, it wasn't very good. I'll tell you
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: where it matters. It matters for the Denver Broncos.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly does.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: The Broncos' home record since Sean Payton has basically gotten here,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: but especially in the Bo Nix era when it got rolling, like,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: it is amazingly good.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: You know why?
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: They're better at home. The Broncos, by the way, have
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: won four straight primetime home games. So when it's on
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: primetime and it's at home, they usually win those games.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Their sack total goes up considerably at home. They get
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: to the quarterback when they're at home.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: And that's good, too, because Sam Darnold, you know, you
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: can get to him. Oh, man. I was watching the
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Seahawks injury report all week, and it was just a
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: tease is what it was, a tease. With JSN, you know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: did not participate, limited. And then all of a sudden,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Wednesday and Thursday hit, and he's great. I mean, he's great.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: He's totally fine.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he is dealing with something. I'm sure everybody
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: in the NFL is dealing with something in week six.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Especially on a short week.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: So we're doing our postgame show live tonight. If you
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: get a chance, it's great because it's right after the game.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: And I know you might have an opinion or two
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: about the game. And it's live on Altitude. You're going
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: to get in a fight with somebody?
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: No, here's the deal.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: I've decided I'm no longer going to be live outside
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: the stadium after the last occasion.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Smart.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: It was a little scary, to be honest with you. Plus,
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: I don't feel like getting secondhand high anymore.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: I'm sort of.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: You just want the first hand.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: The truth of the matter is, if you sit outside
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: the stadium, and I'm almost embarrassed to say this, it
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: is unreal. It's like a waft that comes out when
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: people exit the stadium.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they start toking up big time.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: It's unreal.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: And I really, I got to work the next day.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: So, DMACC is going to be live outside the stadium today.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Hey, man, this is DMACC. Coach, you made a great reference, man.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: That clip, though, DMACC does fit that. I heard you
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: had that reference to the Bear, the TV show. Pretty
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: cool reference, man.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Pretty cool.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, man.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: How many Uncrustables you guys eat?
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I love Uncrustables, man. I could just have like five
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: at a time, man. They're so good.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: That's all a charade. Truthfully, I was at Costco like
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: two months ago. I bought the gigantic box of Uncrustables
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: for easy food for like easy lunch for my daughter
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: or something like that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: She didn't get any, did she? Daddy was the.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: One hammering those Uncrustables. I was doing that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I told you, man. PB & J is good for
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: one's soul.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: What do you think is more likely? Does Bo Nix
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: throw the ball for 250 yards tonight? Or let's say 300.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: How about this? No, too high. I hate that I
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: just said 300 yards is too high of a standard.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Remember, I'm doing the energy drink if the eclipse is 250?
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: 250. No, 225.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Is that what it is?
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: 225, yeah.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: What's more likely? I'll go kind of in the middle.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Bo Nix throws for 275 yards tonight, or the Broncos
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: have a 100-yard rusher.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: The Broncos have a 100-yard rusher.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's true.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Why don't you think that's true?
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because Seattle's tough against the run.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Because the Broncos haven't had a 100-yard rusher in forever.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: And they haven't been close.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Bo Nix has thrown for 275. The thing is, can
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: they break one? You know, like we always say, can
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: you break one? Do you know how.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Wide open my eyes would be if I saw a
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: Denver Bronco running back run for.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: Like 30 yards.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Where he ran.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: And kept running.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: And kept running with nobody touching him yet.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Like running.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Can I just give you some facts? Do you like
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: facts or do you just want to ignore them? The
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks have the number one ranked defense in the
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: National Football League in yards per game. At 251.2. They allow,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: on average, just over 100 yards on the ground. Wait,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: say that again.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: How many yards do they give up a game?
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: 251.2. So if they average just over 100 yards on
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: the ground giving up, how many is that through the
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: air do they give up? 150. That's a good math there, Brett.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: You're right. 150, which is also tops in the National
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Football League. So the odds are that you're going to
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: be able to run the ball against them easier than
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: then you are going to be able to pass the
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: ball against them for 250. Because they just don't give
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: that up.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: Of all the defenses the Broncos have faced so far,
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: and they've faced some tough ones, this will be the toughest.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Correct? That's correct.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: So why won't you guys share my vow that if
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: they win this game, no matter what?
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Because I'm tired of it. Just to be honest with you. Like,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: here's the thing. If the Broncos were putting up 350
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: yards of offense in the previous games and then they
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: had a stinker tonight, I'd be like, yeah, whatever. But
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: they haven't. And so, I don't know. Now, something about
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks, I'm not taking anything away. They're a very
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: good defense. We all know it, okay? They made Brock
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Purdy struggle last week.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: He only passed for 189 last week.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Now, what they've faced so far this year is the
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Patriots in week one when they were a mess. Remember
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: the first few weeks of the season, the Patriots couldn't
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: do anything.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but they also beat them with their backup quarterback.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: I'm just talking about defensively. Defensively. Week two, they played
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: against Arizona, who has the least explosive play rate in
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: the NFL. Less than the Broncos. Week three, they played
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: the Commanders with Marcus Mariota as the backup quarterback. Week four,
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: they played the Chargers. We just saw how that looks.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: And then last week was the Niners.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: They are the best defense in the league statistically. They're
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: one of the best defenses no matter what. But they
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: haven't really been challenged. Can the Broncos pose a challenge?
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Can they just give them a challenge? Challenge them. Okay.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I see what you're saying.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: I want them to challenge. Like when CU plays Utah
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: this weekend, challenge them. Challenge. That's what I want.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: See, that's a big ask. That's going to be a
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: bigger ask. The Broncos can win this. I don't think
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: the Buffs have any chance of winning. The Broncos can
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: win this dang game, Vic. They can do it.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: What's the spread on this game?
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Two and a half, Seattle minus two and a half.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: You know what? What?
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: I think the Broncos win tonight.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I do too.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be an ugly, ugly game,
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: but I think they win.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: I do too. You guys are getting really bold on me.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: It's not bold. I think it's going to be ugly,
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: but the Broncos win ugly at home a lot. A lot.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: That's what they do.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: It would be different. I had a different feeling with
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: the Rams because I thought, could you keep up with
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: the Rams? Gift you a pick six. That helps. Sam
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Donald's been turning the ball over. I don't know.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Can I close the show by asking this simple question?
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Did you guys get a email?
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: One of those multi, those big KSE staff emails offering
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: tickets to something called, and I'm going to read this,
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: I'm mom so hard.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Your mom what?
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: Vic, you forgot the hashtag.
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: Hashtag I mom so hard.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: The hell is that?
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: I read this and I was like, wait, am I
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: getting fished here?
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: I got it. Yeah.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: What is this? It's a couple gals who are comedians
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I mom so hard. You mom so hard. We mom
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: so hard. Anyway. Yeah, Vic, we got that. Fact checker, please.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Nelly monitors the mistakes in today's Fact Checker. Fact Checker.
• 44:47
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• 44:51
  Speaker 9: You know who's going to be momming pretty hard at
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: the Nuggets home opener? Joe Custodio. Joe Custodio.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Joe Custodio?
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: What?
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Susudio? Yeah, Susudio. Susudio.
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: No, Joe Custodio might require a jacket. He won himself
• 45:06
  Speaker 9: a pair of tickets.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Way to go, Joe.
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: And then also, I guess we can debate who had
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: the worst question to Leggy today. Was it Brett asking
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: if the Broncos should just let JSN get as many
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: yards as he wants? Or was it Mosher asking him
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: if Jalen Waddle was a bust?
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Both stupid. I didn't ask if it was not about
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: a bust. I said, if it doesn't turn around, this
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: is the whole basis of his article. If it doesn't
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: turn around, is there a potential somewhere down the line,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: and I qualified it, we're still early, somewhere down the
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: line that this key acquisition ends up being a bust?
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: God knows what reason.
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: Our show would be so much better if you guys
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: didn't say stupid things.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: And that's what I've told a lot of people.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: I said, we have the potential to be a really
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: great radio show, but my co-hosts say.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Stupid things, and I don't know what to do about it.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: One of the safeties today, if they could get one
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: hand on a ball, We're not allowed to talk about
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: that anymore. You can't say it. Please, no.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Say it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Say it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: What?
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: You can't.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: A one-handed intercept?
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: That's what I thought.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: 3-0-3?
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: 5-0-4?
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: 0-9-2-5?
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: You've been banned by the boss? We're all banned from
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: saying that.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: You've taken.
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: Who's the backup running back on the 49ers?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Okay. Keelan Black. That's his God-given name.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: Go Broncos. We'll discuss everything tomorrow. Have a great day.
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: See you tomorrow.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Love you.