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EPSTEIN VICTIMS: PROSECUTE "PRINCE" ANDREW, KING AXES TITLE, PRINCE TESTIFY IN US? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 2: Victims demand prosecute Prince Andrew as King Charles axes Andrew's
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Speaker 2: prince title. He's got bigger problems now, demands from Capitol Hill.
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Speaker 2: Prince Andrew come here and testify on you as soil
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Speaker 2: Imancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank
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Speaker 2: you for being with us.
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Speaker 3: Out of the Blue, Virginia Jaffray's book drops coincidentally the
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Speaker 3: night before Andrew gets stripped of all of his titles.
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Speaker 1: Timing timing, Wow, what timing?
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Speaker 2: And now Prince Andrew's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell.
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Speaker 2: It was it was very gently bubbling.
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Speaker 1: It has boiled over.
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Speaker 2: And now the king, as in King Charles, is being
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Speaker 2: heckled because of his baby brother. Listen that from our
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Speaker 2: friends as Sky News. If you couldn't understand the heckler
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Speaker 2: he's yelling out. Have you asked the police to cover
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Speaker 2: up for Andrew? How long have you known about Andrew
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Speaker 2: and Epstein? Look, I'm happily an American. I don't want
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Speaker 2: a king, or a prince or a princess, none of that.
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Speaker 2: That's for Disney, okay, But when you have a book
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Speaker 2: published by a sex trafficking victim, Virginia Geoffrey, and coincidentally
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Speaker 2: that very weak Prince Andrew is stripped of his titles.
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Speaker 2: Don't tell me that her book, posthumously publicized, had nothing
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Speaker 2: to do with Andrew's downfall. My question is how can
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Speaker 2: this help the actual sex molization victims. That's what this
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Speaker 2: is all about. How disgusting is it to Barry Levine
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Speaker 2: joining us He is the author of a brand new book.
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Speaker 2: It's incredible, The Spider inside the tangle web of Jeffrey
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Speaker 2: Epstein and Glaine Maxwell. It's amazing when you hear that
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Speaker 2: Epstein had moved a billion b as in brother billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: Where did he get that?
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Speaker 2: I guarantee you we will discover it's from trafficking little girls,
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Speaker 2: including American little girls. Any little girl is bad enough.
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Speaker 2: Why I said American is because we have jurisdiction over that.
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Speaker 2: I can't help what Turkey and the Stans are doing Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan,
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Speaker 2: what they're doing with their children. I can't prosecute that,
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Speaker 2: but I can help prosecute what was done to American
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Speaker 2: children at the hands of Epstein. A billion dollars Levin,
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Speaker 2: probably more enough to make JP Morgan.
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Speaker 1: Have a multimillion dollar settlement.
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Speaker 2: You know, they would not have done that if there
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Speaker 2: had not been fire underneath that smoke. But Barry Levine,
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Speaker 2: how disgusted must the British public be.
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Speaker 1: About right now?
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Speaker 2: To note that Andrew was still chatting and texting and
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Speaker 2: emailing with Epstein after his Palm Beach conviction, really saying
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Speaker 2: the words will play more soon, I want to vomit
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Speaker 2: play un last little.
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Speaker 4: Girls, Nancy. He said he wanted to continue to have
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Speaker 4: fun with Jeffrey Epstein. That's the word he used, was fun. Now.
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Speaker 4: These email disclosures came after Prince Andrews said that he
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Speaker 4: had cut off all communication with Jeffrey Epstein. He traveled
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Speaker 4: to New York. There was a photos of the two
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Speaker 4: of them in Central Park together. He said that was it.
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Speaker 4: He said, he told Jeffrey Epstein goodbye. Now we're learning
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Speaker 4: and we're seeing emails where Prince Andrew was continuing to
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Speaker 4: communicate with Jeffrey Epstein when the photo of Andrew and
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Speaker 4: Virginia Jeffrey came out standing in Gilay Maxwell's townhouse in London,
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Speaker 4: a photo that Jeffrey Epstein took. Andrew told Epstein, we'll
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Speaker 4: get through this together and then we'll have fun again.
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Speaker 4: It is absolutely disgusting. And I hope now that he
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Speaker 4: has been stripped of these ridiculous royal titles that he
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Speaker 4: had that he never deserved in the first place, that maybe,
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Speaker 4: just maybe the authorities over there will pull up their
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Speaker 4: pants and actually investigate him. He had a security detail,
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Speaker 4: Special Operations fourteen. They need to be investigated.
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Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this, Lavaine, if it finally
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Speaker 2: comes to light. They are allegations right now that Prince
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Speaker 2: Andrew ordered Scotland Yard, Scotland Yard be ashamed. And I
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Speaker 2: never said that. I have great respect for Scotland Yard.
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Speaker 1: He asked them.
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Speaker 2: To investigate Virginia Giffrey to smear her when her allegations
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Speaker 2: came out. He misused law enforcement for his own personal
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Speaker 2: ill motives.
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Speaker 1: Hey, listen to this.
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Speaker 5: Just a few short months after Epstein walks free, Prince
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Speaker 5: Andrew corresponds with a convicted sex offender, promising to make
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Speaker 5: plans for a trip to New York as it would
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Speaker 5: be good to catch up in person. Andrew claims his
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Speaker 5: December trip to Epstein's New York mansion was planned solely
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Speaker 5: to break the news he must cut contact with the financier. However,
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Speaker 5: in a January email to Epstein, Andrew writes, keep in
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Speaker 5: close touch and we'll play some more soon with four exclamation.
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Speaker 2: Points, really straight out to Lynn Shaw. She is in
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Speaker 2: DC right now lobbying fighting for the release of the
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Speaker 2: Epstein files. I never thought i'd see the day when
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Speaker 2: we had to go to Washington and demand a child
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Speaker 2: sex molester's files become public.
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Speaker 1: What is this Russia?
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Speaker 2: China where there are secret dealings behind closed doors. Oh ha,
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Speaker 2: doublel and oh, I ain't shutting up about this. God
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Speaker 2: bless you Lynshaw for being in DC fighting.
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Speaker 1: For the those files.
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Speaker 2: But I want to by the way, Lynshaw founded Director
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Speaker 2: Lyn's Warriors, which is dedicated to eradicating sex trafficking of
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Speaker 2: girls and women and more. But did you notice the
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Speaker 2: way and the timing of Andrew Prince Andrew. It's like
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Speaker 2: I just a hairball trying to say Prince Andrew. The
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Speaker 2: timing is after the Palm Beach debacle, and I'm about
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Speaker 2: to go to Greg Morris, who is joining us from
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Speaker 2: Palm Beach on this after that he knows he knows
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Speaker 2: Epstein is a child molester.
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Speaker 1: He knows that.
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Speaker 2: But that said, play again soon, talk about minimizing pain
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Speaker 2: and suffering.
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Speaker 6: I am disgusted with this whole story. It really means
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Speaker 6: nothing for us in Washington, in the United States, fighting
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Speaker 6: for our victims of not only these criminals but also
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Speaker 6: all victims of sexual exploitation. What it does, Why this
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Speaker 6: does matter, though, is because it keeps it out there,
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Speaker 6: the narrative. It keeps it in the headlines. It keeps
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Speaker 6: people talking about it. But we only care about to
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Speaker 6: be in Washington and to have a client list. The
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Speaker 6: whole thing called a hoax, to have people fighting, to
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Speaker 6: have people saying we have it all on our desk
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Speaker 6: and we're going to release it, and they've done zero.
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Speaker 6: So we demand that they open this up. For America.
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Speaker 6: We want files, we want accountability, we want to bring
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Speaker 6: people to trial.
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Speaker 7: How about we don't talk about.
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Speaker 6: So many things here in America. There's Zoro Ranch and
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Speaker 6: all of those complicit who participated in that, the buyers
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Speaker 6: of all this. I'm going to call him buyers because
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Speaker 6: I'm sure money was exchanged. Because none of these people
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Speaker 6: do anything unless there's financial incentive monies involved.
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Speaker 7: So you know what this may be great.
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Speaker 6: And Buckingham Palace put out a cute, little nice announcement
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Speaker 6: the other day that they stand with all victims survivors,
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Speaker 6: but you know who didn't sign off on that, Andrew.
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Speaker 6: Andrew is still in denial, so we don't care about him.
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Speaker 6: We care about all the girls and women that have
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Speaker 6: been victims of this for decades now, and we demand
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Speaker 6: answers and accountability.
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Speaker 2: Joining me, Doctor Bethany Marshall, renowned psycho analyst out of
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Speaker 2: LA She's the author of deal Breaker, still waiting on
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Speaker 2: that second book, Bethany Get Kracking. You can see her
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Speaker 2: on Peacock and find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall, I just had a physical reaction as
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Speaker 2: Lynn from Lynn's Warriors was talking. We were showing photos
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Speaker 2: of Epstein, and it was the reaction I often had
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Speaker 2: in court, particularly in child abuse cases.
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Speaker 1: I look over as a defendant.
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Speaker 2: Who was typically on my right side, and the jury
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Speaker 2: would be right beside me on my left, and they
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Speaker 2: would look so smug, like there's no way in HGBL
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Speaker 2: they're going to get caught, and I would actually an
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Speaker 2: involuntary reaction just go and I would feel my turn
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Speaker 2: up and discuss when I was looking at at Epstein
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Speaker 2: he looks so snug in every photo and why not
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Speaker 2: because he's gotten away with this. Would you please tell
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Speaker 2: the listeners what child rape victims go through. They are
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Speaker 2: never the same, and he got away with it for years.
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Speaker 7: Okay, So I agree with Lynn.
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Speaker 8: Forget about Andrew and start thinking about the victims. Too
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Speaker 8: much of the spotlight is on Andrew. I'm going to
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Speaker 8: talk for a second about child victims. Let's not call
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Speaker 8: them the Royal family. This call them the mount Mountains.
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Speaker 8: They are no different than any other family. And if
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Speaker 8: you work for child protective services, you know is you
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Speaker 8: can go to a family that has a predator, an
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Speaker 8: aunt and uncle, a cousin, and they will say to
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Speaker 8: the child protective services worker, oh, you know what, they're no.
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Speaker 7: Longer a part of our family.
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Speaker 8: We've shuffled them off to the side, not going to
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Speaker 8: be perpetrating on our family member any longer. In the
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Speaker 8: minute the child protective Services worker leaves, that family member
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Speaker 8: is shuffled right.
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Speaker 7: Back into the mix. So when we think about victims,
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Speaker 7: we have to think about.
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Speaker 8: Their entire family, you know, family systems, and the fact
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Speaker 8: that families work together to hold everybody together, even if
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Speaker 8: there's a child predator.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's like that moment Out to Greg Morse
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Speaker 2: joining us, high profile lawyer, criminel defense attorney, founder of
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Speaker 2: Morse Legal. He is the author of Untested on Amazon.
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Speaker 2: Greg Morse is joining us from the Palmbates jurisdiction. Greg,
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Speaker 2: question to you, now, I'd like a short answer.
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Speaker 1: This is over. You have nothing to fight with me about.
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Speaker 2: The sweetheart deal that Epstain got when in Palm Bay
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Speaker 2: he was prosecuted four molesting little girls, not just one, several.
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Speaker 2: He got a sweetheart dealer tap on the wrist and
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Speaker 2: he was allowed to be schifferd out of the jail
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Speaker 2: wherever he wanted to go, including his home where he
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Speaker 2: continued to molest children. That was his sentence and have
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Speaker 2: to come back at night and stay in jail occasionally.
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Speaker 2: That was his sentence. And it wasn't a secret Andrew
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Speaker 2: knew about it. And it was after he was convicted
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Speaker 2: that Andrew wrote all of those emails about playing together.
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Speaker 1: Soon you join. Right, his title should be stripped, he
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Speaker 1: should be prosecuted. What's the hold up Morse?
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Speaker 9: Well, you know, with regard to Prince Andrew or former
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Speaker 9: Prince Andrew. At this time, a lot of time has
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Speaker 9: gone by, so you're trying to arrest or indict some
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Speaker 9: one for acts that were a long time ago. The
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Speaker 9: fact that he kept talking to Jeffrey Epstein after he
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Speaker 9: was a known sex trafficker and was convicted, does it
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Speaker 9: make him any more guilty of allegations that were made
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Speaker 9: against Prince Andrew.
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Speaker 10: You know.
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Speaker 9: The one thing though, for Prince Andrew or for former
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Speaker 9: Prince Andrew that could be an issue is that he
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Speaker 9: was stripped of his royal title. He may then be
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Speaker 9: stripped of any diplomatic protection. We have an extradition treaty
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Speaker 9: with England. I don't know if those matters will come up.
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Speaker 9: If there is an indictment in America seeking former Prince Andrew,
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Speaker 9: that could be an issue for him. And it also
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Speaker 9: seems like he was removed from the one estate to
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Speaker 9: go to a thirty one square mile estate because of
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Speaker 9: getting prostitutes during a business trip to Thailand.
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Speaker 2: So you actually staging that, leaving a what fifty room
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Speaker 2: mansion downgraded to a smaller, for free royal home on
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Speaker 2: the Sandringham estate.
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Speaker 1: That's punishment. No I should just say that.
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Speaker 9: No, we agree on that's a joke. That's the Royal
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Speaker 9: family themselves. Every time they're caught with some information, they
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Speaker 9: try to do a little bandiate on it with regard
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Speaker 9: to Andrew Windsor.
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Speaker 4: But for Andrew's time.
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Speaker 2: Hold on, I got to throw this to Harriet Alexander.
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Speaker 2: Harry Alexander, I want to follow up on what Morse
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Speaker 2: is saying. Harriet is a senior features writer Dailymail dot
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Speaker 2: com who has been breaking these stories left and right.
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Speaker 1: Here's the problem.
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Speaker 2: They also threw Fergie Sarah Ferguson out on her ear.
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Speaker 2: She's got a lot of stories to tell and she's
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Speaker 2: desperate for money. She just inhales money like a vacuum cleaner,
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Speaker 2: just cases of champagne. Limma's waiting in the front yard
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Speaker 2: all day long for her to decide to go somewhere.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Just so Marie Antoinette that said she will want money
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Speaker 2: and what better way to get it than to do
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Speaker 2: a tell all book trashing the Royal Family. I mean,
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Speaker 2: they're not really my concern, but I can see that
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Speaker 2: coming a mile away. And you heard Morse playing dodgeball
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Speaker 2: again with me talking about emails, phone calls visits with
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Speaker 2: Andrew and Epstein are not prosecutable. He's right, but child
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Speaker 2: molestation is. Did you read it's probably your article in
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Speaker 2: Dailymail that exposed Prince Andrew's party where they actually had sex, toys,
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Speaker 2: lubricants kindomy. It sounds like Sean Combs stocking all the
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Speaker 2: bathrooms of his mansion and the British taxpayers are paying
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Speaker 2: for that.
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Speaker 1: Those were the party favors.
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Speaker 11: Right right, Yeah, that is part of the outrage in
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Speaker 11: the UK. The British taxpayers have been supporting this lifestyle
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Speaker 11: for so long. He's been a deeply unpopular figure in
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Speaker 11: Britain for many, many years, but it's really come to
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Speaker 11: a head in the last couple of weeks and he's
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Speaker 11: certainly somebody who I think will not be missed in
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Speaker 11: the public eye. It's not just that party at Sandringham,
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Speaker 11: which Andrew said was just a.
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Speaker 1: Normal shooting party. It obviously was anything.
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Speaker 11: But it's also come out that Andrew, believe it or not,
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Speaker 11: invited Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein, as well as Gallaine
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Speaker 11: Maxwell to his daughter's eighteenth birthday party back in two
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Speaker 11: thousand and six. And it's hard to think of any
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Speaker 11: figures who could be more unwelcome at an eighteenth birthday
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Speaker 11: party than those two.
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Speaker 2: Hold on, because tomorrow is the tween's eighteenth birthday, and
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Speaker 2: I'm going to take a big dinner, and I'm making
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Speaker 2: a cake in cupcakes, really blowing it out. So let
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Speaker 2: me understand what you just said, Harriet Alexander Daily Mail.
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Speaker 2: For the eighteenth birthday for Princess Beatrice, her father Andrew
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Speaker 2: invited Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein and Gulaine Maxwell to
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Speaker 2: her eighteen year old's birthday party. They were having sex
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Speaker 2: with eighteen year olds and much younger, as.
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Speaker 1: Young as twelve.
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Speaker 11: What happened, right, right, absolutely, So it was a masked
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Speaker 11: ball that was happening at Windsor Castle. I mean it
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Speaker 11: was a huge affair. There was a lot of people there.
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Speaker 11: This was in two thousand and six, so you know,
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Speaker 11: for reference, Epstein's deal in Florida was two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 11: But still, to invite Weinstein and Epstein to your daughter's
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Speaker 11: eighteenth birthday party, I mean it goes quite a long way,
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Speaker 11: I think to show how close they all were, how
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Speaker 11: much time they all spent together, how they were very,
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Speaker 11: very connected, and of course in hindsight, that's incredibly disturbing, Harriet.
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear this allegation.
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Speaker 5: The Met Police are investigating claims that Prince Andrew tried
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Speaker 5: to involve his tax funded Met Protection officer and Queen
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Speaker 5: Elizabeth's deputy press secretary in a smear campaign against Virginia Geffrey.
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Speaker 5: Andrew provided his bodyguard with Jeffrey's birth date and social
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Speaker 5: Security number in an email, requesting he dig up dirt
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Speaker 5: on the young woman. In another email, Andrew told Secretary
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Speaker 5: Ed Perkins his guard was working on the Jeffray problem,
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Speaker 5: adding she may have a criminal record, and.
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Speaker 12: I do hope that the authorities will actually pursue some
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Speaker 12: of these investigations. They will bring charges, and I think
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Speaker 12: if they do so, there was a very good chance
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Speaker 12: that both he and Sarah Ferguson may well go to prison.
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Speaker 1: Everyone friends talk TV okay, Harriet.
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Speaker 2: Using the Met which is the Metropolitan Police in Great
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Speaker 2: Britain to investigate your child mole station victim in order
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Speaker 2: to smear her, that is wrong on so many levels.
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Speaker 2: Now we cannot prove at this juncture what happened with
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Speaker 2: Virginia's afraid because she has passed away and cannot be
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Speaker 2: cross examined, so that cannot be brought forward a trial.
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Speaker 2: You have a six monment right to cross examined and
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Speaker 2: witnesses against you, period the end. But the allegations that
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Speaker 2: Andrew used the met used Scotland Yard to try to
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Speaker 2: smear a child wol station victim, that's a whole another
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Speaker 2: can of worms, Harriet, Yeah, absolutely, and it's something that
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Speaker 2: the British public want to know.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Lownie, who.
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Speaker 11: Was speaking just then, he is a respected historian, a
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Speaker 11: biographer who has written a book about the House of York,
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Speaker 11: of which Andrew of course was formerly the head, and
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Speaker 11: he is saying that he believes there could be actually
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Speaker 11: criminal charges brought against Andrew for this in particular. But
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Speaker 11: this in particular for using the Metropolitan Police and his
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Speaker 11: protection detail to dig up dirt essentially on Virginia Gufrey.
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Speaker 11: That might be you might be able to prosecute for that,
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Speaker 11: because of course, you know, you can't prosecute for the
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Speaker 11: alleged acts that happened because that was a it was
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Speaker 11: a long time ago and also sadly Virginia is dead.
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Speaker 13: Crime stories with me Atty Grace, Prince Andrew may face
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Speaker 13: more than just disownment any viction. Republic A pressure group
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Speaker 13: constructed lawyers to begin an investigation into the prince, with
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Speaker 13: plans to mount a private prosecution. If they find evidence
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Speaker 13: to substantiate the late virgin you need you phrase rape allegations,
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Speaker 13: Andrew could face jail time. I found guilty in the
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Speaker 13: criminal proceedings and ex wife Sarah Ferguson could be next if.
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Speaker 12: Virginia for his book is very powerful. It really brings
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Speaker 12: home the extent of what was going on and the
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Speaker 12: sense of entitlement and arrogance that they had that somehow
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Speaker 12: they could just do what they wanted and these were
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Speaker 12: disposable people that they could just discard that.
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Speaker 2: From our friends had talked TV to Harriet Alexander, senior
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Speaker 2: features writer d email dot com. Let me throw a
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Speaker 2: little legal jargon at us. Legal jargon, I don't know
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Speaker 2: if you have if that exists in Great Britain. But
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Speaker 2: Harriet Alexander, did you notice when Andrew walked up and
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Speaker 2: the other royals were there, he was.
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Speaker 1: Totally legal phrase the turd in the punch.
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Speaker 2: Bowl, right, It was like, oh, they all look away,
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Speaker 2: nobody wants to talk to him. It's very obvious they
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Speaker 2: moved him one hundred miles away after Jeffrey's.
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Speaker 1: Book came out.
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Speaker 2: That's all well and good, and he deserves so much
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Speaker 2: more than just a public shaming.
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Speaker 1: To what this group republic is.
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Speaker 2: It's a pressure, a group who wants to, of course
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Speaker 2: see the monarchy abolished, but in the meantime they want
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Speaker 2: Andrew prosecuted privately.
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Speaker 1: What is that?
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Speaker 2: Is that the same as a civil lawsuit here in
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Speaker 2: the US, I want to say, private prosecution look like
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Speaker 2: in Great Britain.
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Speaker 11: So that is being carried out, as you say, by
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Speaker 11: this group which is against the monarchy. I don't believe
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Speaker 11: that that case is going to have any possibility of
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Speaker 11: going forwards because the person who would be there, the
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Speaker 11: person who would be their main witness, the accuser, Virginia Jiufrey,
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Speaker 11: by suicide earlier this year. So it's not going to
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Speaker 11: be possible to prosecute Andrew for rape as they hope,
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Speaker 11: because the person who would need to prove it is
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Speaker 11: no longer with us. But I do think they might
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Speaker 11: have more luck trying to investigate what happened with Andrew
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Speaker 11: using his taxpayer funded private his taxpayer funded security detail
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Speaker 11: to dig up information on her to try and discredit her.
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Speaker 11: I think that's something that could be more profitable for
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Speaker 11: people who want to see Andrew Facebook punishment.
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Speaker 2: Private investigator or a founder of Crispin Special Investigations, former
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Speaker 2: Federal Task Force for the US and DJ former homicide
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Speaker 2: and Crimes against Children investigator joining us near the Epstein
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Speaker 2: Florida mansion. You know, I especially wanted to go to you, Crispin,
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Speaker 2: because you're there near Epstein's Florida mansion, not to be
23:42
Speaker 2: mistaken with his New York mansion or his Virgin Islands
23:49
Speaker 2: mansion or any of the other mansions he's got all
23:52
Speaker 2: around the world. You know, us regular people, may I
23:55
Speaker 2: speak for you, Like you and me. We don't like
23:58
Speaker 2: it when rich people take advantage of the police like
24:03
Speaker 2: Epstein and Andrew have done, take advantage of children like
24:09
Speaker 2: Epstein and Andrew have done, and then think we're going
24:13
Speaker 2: to excuse it because they're either American royalty because they're rich,
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Speaker 2: or they're British royalty.
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Speaker 1: I'm about had it up to right here.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, in Nancy, I'll tell you there's a lot that
24:24
Speaker 14: has happened here in the town of Palm Beach. Used
24:27
Speaker 14: to kind of give you a little idea of where
24:29
Speaker 14: I am, where zabnuers right behind me, and a couple
24:33
Speaker 14: of streets south of that is where Epstein's mansion used
24:37
Speaker 14: to be, and then a few streets south of that
24:41
Speaker 14: is Trump's marl Lago bomb Pound. So since this all
24:46
Speaker 14: has transpired, since all this has happened with Epstein, this
24:50
Speaker 14: property is not through two owners. The first owner works,
24:54
Speaker 14: You're still right away. He put in plans to Palm
24:57
Speaker 14: Beach to build a modern home, but he got rejected
25:01
Speaker 14: because Palm Beach doesn't want modern homes. A lot of
25:04
Speaker 14: people I probably don't know this, but in Palm Beach,
25:06
Speaker 14: if you go to build a house, your neighbors in
25:10
Speaker 14: the town of Palm Beach have to kind of all
25:12
Speaker 14: sign up that they're okay with you building a.
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Speaker 1: Modern home in an area that doesn't have.
25:18
Speaker 14: Any and it's got such character of everything else brought
25:22
Speaker 14: a modern home.
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Speaker 2: So going forward, a Sanspy and Crispin Paul, I love
25:26
Speaker 2: your monologue on the architecture requests. I'm really really stinking
25:31
Speaker 2: rich people down at Palm Beach.
25:32
Speaker 1: Can we get to.
25:34
Speaker 2: The tam molestation and the fact that nothing's been done
25:37
Speaker 2: about it? So Nancy.
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Speaker 14: This address used to be three six eight al Brill
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Speaker 14: Array on Palm Beach Island. The new owners were able
25:45
Speaker 14: to get a brand new address of three six zero
25:47
Speaker 14: Lbrill Array. Why because they didn't want anything related to
25:52
Speaker 14: Jeffrey Epstein, the Chad molestation cases that occurred here and
25:56
Speaker 14: everything else that put a blocked stain on Pamby To Island.
26:01
Speaker 14: Everything from grass, the trees, the dirt, the dot has
26:06
Speaker 14: been gone lifted out. There's not one I wrote a
26:11
Speaker 14: property belonging to Jeffrey Epstein or anything to do with
26:15
Speaker 14: any of these hameless crimes against children that are left
26:18
Speaker 14: on this property.
26:19
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, so many things, doctor Bethany Marshall.
26:22
Speaker 2: And I'm about to go to Barry Levine on the
26:24
Speaker 2: money trail. That may be the only way we get
26:26
Speaker 2: Andrew or any of Epstein's cohorts.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, you just heard Crispin. He's standing out.
26:33
Speaker 2: Did you see that multimillion dollar view that Epstein had,
26:37
Speaker 2: But you know what that view stinks when you think
26:40
Speaker 2: about him bringing these little children, little girls, little girls.
26:44
Speaker 1: Think about it.
26:46
Speaker 2: You saw You've watched my little girl grow up from
26:49
Speaker 2: the time she was born Anthony.
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Speaker 1: You've known her.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine some pos abusing her in that massa
27:01
Speaker 2: looking out over that beach. They can all go straight
27:03
Speaker 2: to Hubl riding a pitchfork as far as I'm concerned.
27:08
Speaker 2: But that said, at some point, regular people like me,
27:13
Speaker 2: like Crispin, We're not going to stand by and let
27:17
Speaker 2: this continue. They're standing for it over in Great Britain,
27:22
Speaker 2: but not here. No, and I don't understand why we
27:25
Speaker 2: can't get the release of those files and why nothing
27:28
Speaker 2: is happening for Pete Saint Lenshaw has to go with
27:30
Speaker 2: a torch outside.
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Speaker 1: The White House up on Capitol Hill to try to
27:35
Speaker 1: get some action. I don't get it. They it's Marie
27:38
Speaker 1: Antoinette all over again.
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Speaker 8: You know what's interesting and actually disturbing to me, Nancy,
27:44
Speaker 8: is that these neighbors are observing a crime scene.
27:49
Speaker 7: Okay, they're observing something.
27:51
Speaker 8: In their neighborhood that really was criminal and children were
27:56
Speaker 8: abused as young as twelve years of age, And the
27:59
Speaker 8: fact that they would change the address means that they're
28:02
Speaker 8: trying to wash their hands of the whole thing. Why
28:05
Speaker 8: why don't these neighbors come forward, go to court right right?
28:10
Speaker 8: Their local representative and talk a little bit about the
28:13
Speaker 8: cars that they saw coming and going. Who were the car,
28:16
Speaker 8: what was the license plates. I'm sure they have, you know,
28:19
Speaker 8: security cameras on their homes. What did they what do
28:23
Speaker 8: those security cameras.
28:25
Speaker 7: What did they record?
28:27
Speaker 8: So these neighbors who are trying to sanitize their community,
28:31
Speaker 8: it's no different than what I said earlier about any
28:34
Speaker 8: other family that has the lecherous aunt or uncle or somebody,
28:38
Speaker 8: where they try to protect that person rather than coming
28:41
Speaker 8: forward and bringing the ill deeds to light to protect
28:45
Speaker 8: the younger members of the family.
28:47
Speaker 6: So I just really disturbed that these neighbors are taking this.
28:51
Speaker 7: Course of action.
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Speaker 15: The photograph is taken upstairs, and I don't think I
28:55
Speaker 15: have a winch upstairs.
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Speaker 4: It's devastation. He's already lost these titles.
29:00
Speaker 16: He's still a prince, he's no longer the Duke of York,
29:03
Speaker 16: and he's no longer he's royal.
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Speaker 1: Heb excuse me, you know he's lost all his titles.
29:10
Speaker 1: He's living rent free in the royal lodge. I want
29:13
Speaker 1: to hear about any of his suffering.
29:16
Speaker 2: Is a prosecution across the ocean possible for Andrew Stunning
29:21
Speaker 2: revelations over the last seventy two hours. In my mind
29:26
Speaker 2: it means even the royal family smells the stench from
29:31
Speaker 2: Andrew's lies. Now, how does that correlate to action in
29:36
Speaker 2: the US? What about a prosecution for manipulating manipulating the
29:45
Speaker 2: law enforcement the met Scotland Yard to smear Virginia Jeffrey.
29:52
Speaker 2: That said, now we've got a powerhouse involved in the
29:56
Speaker 2: US that is in the form of major banking institutions
30:01
Speaker 2: are now dragged into this. But to Harriet Alexander, senior
30:05
Speaker 2: features writer, deal email dot com, what's the possibility now
30:09
Speaker 2: that the British public smells blood there will be a
30:13
Speaker 2: prosecution or will it be covered up for at least
30:17
Speaker 2: Andrew allegedly using the met Metropolitan Police in Scotland yard
30:22
Speaker 2: to smear Giffrey.
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Speaker 11: So it's certainly something that a lot of people want
30:27
Speaker 11: looking into about whether Andrew, as alleged, did pressure his
30:33
Speaker 11: private security officer to look into Virginia Roberts Giufrey to
30:39
Speaker 11: see if he could dig up dirt and discredit her.
30:42
Speaker 11: I think that's something that authorities in the UK will
30:45
Speaker 11: be under a lot of pressure to investigate. I think
30:48
Speaker 11: there's also growing questions about about why is not why
30:51
Speaker 11: more is not being done in the United States, because
30:54
Speaker 11: I think, you know, to Lind's point, that this keeps
30:57
Speaker 11: everything in the news, It's got every body talking about it,
31:01
Speaker 11: and it heaps pressure on the US authorities to release
31:04
Speaker 11: more of their files. Because it's worth noting that so
31:08
Speaker 11: far the only people who have really faced significant penalties
31:13
Speaker 11: in a way are Andrew Gilaane Maxwell who's in prison,
31:17
Speaker 11: Peter mc Andlson, who was the fabassador to Washington, d C.
31:22
Speaker 1: He lost his job over this because he.
31:24
Speaker 11: Was friends with Epstein, and an American banker, Jess Staley,
31:29
Speaker 11: who was working at JP Morgan. He was in London
31:33
Speaker 11: with Barclay's Bank and he lost his job as a
31:37
Speaker 11: result of the work that he did with Epstein at
31:40
Speaker 11: JP Morgan back then.
31:42
Speaker 1: So there are things happening in the UK.
31:45
Speaker 11: But I think people owned even in the UK, are
31:46
Speaker 11: beginning to ask why more is not being done in
31:49
Speaker 11: the US to pursue people who were supporting.
31:52
Speaker 1: Epstein and in some cases clients.
31:56
Speaker 2: I agree, those supporting Epstein and he has child said
32:00
Speaker 2: trafficking that would be reportedly the Bank of America and
32:05
Speaker 2: the Bank of New York.
32:06
Speaker 1: Mellon and J. P.
32:08
Speaker 2: Morgan enter Barry Levine, who has documented endlessly the spider
32:17
Speaker 2: inside the tangle web of Jeffrey Epstein, Angelane Maxwell, listen
32:20
Speaker 2: to this, Mary.
32:21
Speaker 17: New lawsuits shed light on Epstein's trafficking ring. Anonymous plaintives
32:25
Speaker 17: file against Bank of America and Bank of New York Mellon,
32:29
Speaker 17: claiming the institutions illicitly enabled Epstein's trafficking. Both banks accused
32:34
Speaker 17: of ignoring the illegal activity. Bank of America turning a
32:37
Speaker 17: blind eye to Epstein's use of a victim's account to
32:40
Speaker 17: pay her and other victims off, and Mellon failing to
32:43
Speaker 17: flag nearly three hundred and seventy eight million dollars in
32:46
Speaker 17: victim payments as suspicious.
32:49
Speaker 2: Three hundred and seventy eight million dollars for victim payments
32:55
Speaker 2: and nobody said a word. In a nutshell, Barry Levine,
33:00
Speaker 2: I'm just a trial lawyer. Break it down for me
33:03
Speaker 2: what the banks allegedly did wrong.
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Speaker 4: What the banks did wrong, Nancy, was that they looked
33:10
Speaker 4: the other way. Going back to two thousand and two,
33:13
Speaker 4: over over one billion dollars of moneys that Jeffrey Epstein
33:17
Speaker 4: withdrew to pay off enablers around the world and also
33:21
Speaker 4: to pay off victims. These suspicious activity reports were completely
33:27
Speaker 4: you know, red lights for multiple banks, but because Jeffrey
33:30
Speaker 4: Epstein brought in so many of his wealthy clients, these
33:34
Speaker 4: banks managed to look the other way, and this sex
33:38
Speaker 4: trafficking was able to continue for two decades. It's only
33:42
Speaker 4: now that we're finally looking back at all of the
33:46
Speaker 4: financial reports and Representative Tom Massey is hoping to prosecute
33:51
Speaker 4: nineteen men that he has identified who were sex trafficked to.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Barry, You're super smart. Book is amazing. I said,
34:03
Speaker 2: dummy down, You didn't really, dummy down. What I think
34:07
Speaker 2: you just said is these banks knew Epstein was conducting
34:13
Speaker 2: nefarious activity, specifically child trafficking, child six trafficking, and on
34:20
Speaker 2: the money flow following the money, you can determine who
34:25
Speaker 2: was sending him girls as young as twelve and.
34:28
Speaker 1: Who he was paying.
34:31
Speaker 2: That is the significance of those financial transactions. What dummy
34:36
Speaker 2: down can I learn? I would have to work with
34:40
Speaker 2: you a really long time to put you on the stand. Okay,
34:42
Speaker 2: no offense, but you're just too smart for the rest
34:45
Speaker 2: of us. Again, dummy down, What can I learn? One, two,
34:49
Speaker 2: three from these financial transactions. And you know they did
34:53
Speaker 2: it because they entered multimillion dollar.
34:56
Speaker 1: Settlements to make it go away.
34:59
Speaker 2: Right, So what am I going to get for the
35:01
Speaker 2: financial transactions?
35:04
Speaker 4: What we're getting, Nancy, from the financial transactions is actual
35:08
Speaker 4: details and dates of the men and payments that Jeffrey Epstein.
35:13
Speaker 2: Made crime Stories with Nancy Grace, And unlike the Jeffreight molestation,
35:29
Speaker 2: Sidney Summer joining Me Crime Stories Investigative Reporter, a lot
35:33
Speaker 2: of these child molesters victims are still alive. Some of
35:39
Speaker 2: them are the ones marching on Capitol Hill to get
35:42
Speaker 2: the Epstein files released. They're alive, they can testify unless
35:47
Speaker 2: they commit suicide.
35:48
Speaker 1: Sidney absolutely, Nancy.
35:51
Speaker 10: Remember the victims hosted a press conference on Capitol Hill
35:55
Speaker 10: just a few weeks ago, and the stories were horrendous.
35:59
Speaker 10: Woman after woman stepped up to that microphone and shared
36:02
Speaker 10: what they experienced under Epstein's sexual abuse. So there are
36:08
Speaker 10: many women who are still alive, available, wanting to give
36:12
Speaker 10: their testimony, and working on compiling their own list of
36:17
Speaker 10: Epstein's clients.
36:18
Speaker 15: I don't believe it's a picture of me in London
36:20
Speaker 15: because when I go out to when I go out
36:22
Speaker 15: in London, I wear a suit.
36:24
Speaker 16: And a tie. That's what I would describe as those
36:28
Speaker 16: are my traveling clothes.
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Speaker 1: That's me.
36:31
Speaker 15: But whether that's my hand or whether that's the position,
36:36
Speaker 15: but I don't. I have simply no recollection of a
36:40
Speaker 15: photograph ever being taken right.
36:43
Speaker 1: From our friends at ABC.
36:45
Speaker 2: In the last seventy two hours, Prince Andrew has been
36:48
Speaker 2: kicked out of the Royal Lodge and been stripped of
36:51
Speaker 2: all of his titles.
36:53
Speaker 1: But is that enough?
36:54
Speaker 2: The British public says no, and sex simlization victims say
36:59
Speaker 2: we want him prosecuted on us soil, move a foot
37:04
Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill asking answer to come voluntarily to testify
37:11
Speaker 2: and proceedings. No one is going to forget this, largely
37:16
Speaker 2: because of this.
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Speaker 1: Woman that you said, take off your clothes.
37:21
Speaker 18: I had these little girl undies on, like little hearts
37:24
Speaker 18: on them, I remember, and they were laughing at that
37:27
Speaker 18: because they liked that the younger you look, the better
37:30
Speaker 18: it is.
37:31
Speaker 7: It turns it turns very sexual.
37:33
Speaker 18: And it was abuse straight away from both of them.
37:38
Speaker 18: And sometimes he would just in front of them and
37:41
Speaker 18: rub his nipples. Sometimes he would have intercourse with them.
37:44
Speaker 18: Sometimes he'd make them you know, give him.
37:48
Speaker 2: Laughing at a little girl because she has flowers on her underwear.
37:54
Speaker 1: That's for our friends at Lifetime and Miami, Harold. I mean,
37:57
Speaker 1: you know, all of this legal.
37:59
Speaker 2: Back and forth, extradition, the Prince Royal Lodge, blah blah.
38:04
Speaker 2: Robert Crispin joining us outside what was once Epstein's Florida mansion.
38:12
Speaker 2: You've done a lot of advice, including child prostitution.
38:17
Speaker 1: That's what it boils down to. That's what this is about.
38:21
Speaker 2: Up staining all of his rich clients that made this possible.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, they certainly facilitated all this. And I would subject
38:30
Speaker 14: or I would suggest that there's some more charges coming
38:33
Speaker 14: down the road. And I think he was stripped of
38:35
Speaker 14: everything overseas and these titles overseas because the way family knows,
38:41
Speaker 14: and they've been meeting or speaking with the government, that
38:44
Speaker 14: charges are about to come down and it's going to
38:46
Speaker 14: look a lot better for their family when they say, hey,
38:50
Speaker 14: he's no longer part of our friendly we've stripped him
38:53
Speaker 14: of everything.
38:54
Speaker 2: I mean to Mary Levine joining us authors despite or
38:57
Speaker 2: inside the tangled web of Jeffrey Epstein and the Lane
39:00
Speaker 2: Maxwell two hundred and ninety million dollars was a settlement
39:06
Speaker 2: from JP Morgan Chase two hundred and ninety million dollars,
39:11
Speaker 2: and they agreed to implement anti sex trafficking measures. A bank,
39:17
Speaker 2: a bank, a respectable bank, in the middle of a
39:21
Speaker 2: child sex trafficking scheme that should speak volumes to everybody.
39:28
Speaker 2: If that bank JP Morgan Chase paid nearly three hundred
39:33
Speaker 2: million dollars to make this go away, there's fire because
39:39
Speaker 2: I see smoke Levine.
39:42
Speaker 4: Yea, and listen, Nancy. It's sad to think that that
39:46
Speaker 4: bank that three hundred million bucks to them. It's a
39:50
Speaker 4: drop in the bucket to them for the amount of
39:52
Speaker 4: money that Jeffrey Epstein helped them make over the decades
39:56
Speaker 4: by bringing in is billionaire buddies to at their money
40:00
Speaker 4: in their bank. But the fact is, if there's any
40:04
Speaker 4: one thing that's a positive out of this, is that
40:07
Speaker 4: those bank records are now finally getting in the possession
40:11
Speaker 4: of the authorities who can go through each and every
40:14
Speaker 4: line and look at these suspicious payments that Jeffrey Epstein
40:19
Speaker 4: made and go after these men. Representative Thomas Massey knows
40:23
Speaker 4: of nineteen men. Senator Ryan Widen has identified one billion
40:28
Speaker 4: dollars in suspicious wire transfers that Jeffrey Epstein made. And
40:32
Speaker 4: this was money didn't only go through the US banks.
40:35
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein was also moving money through Russian banks, and
40:39
Speaker 4: his executors of his estate complicated things for years. They
40:45
Speaker 4: created one hundred and fifty different bank account for Jeffrey
40:48
Speaker 4: Epstein to move his money through. So this was a
40:51
Speaker 4: wild maze and a wild web. And now it's only
40:55
Speaker 4: now that investigators are going through this. Let's hope that
40:58
Speaker 4: there's financial crimes that they can pinpoint and go after
41:02
Speaker 4: these men not only in the US, but the men
41:04
Speaker 4: who put the little girls on the planes to the
41:06
Speaker 4: virgin Islands, who are overseas, who took money from Jeffrey Epstein.
41:11
Speaker 2: Making millions of dollars from child sex trafficking. Epstein and
41:18
Speaker 2: Andrew is in the MiGs.
41:20
Speaker 1: But we are also learning this what is wrong with
41:25
Speaker 1: this woman? Listen.
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Speaker 5: Virginia Verse likens Glene Maxwell to Mary Poppins, but later
41:30
Speaker 5: learns Maxwell as a prideful, jealous woman. Virginia describes Maxwell's
41:35
Speaker 5: cruelty during three sumes, with Epstein slapping and hurting Virginia
41:39
Speaker 5: to assert her dominance. Maxwell also loves to brag about
41:42
Speaker 5: previous romps, wants positively giddy to share. She performed a
41:46
Speaker 5: sex act on George Clooney in a bathroom at a party.
41:50
Speaker 2: Okay again, I need a shrink and a drink, and
41:53
Speaker 2: says I don't have a drink.
41:54
Speaker 1: I'll go with a shrink, Bethany, What is wrong with her?
41:58
Speaker 2: Of course Clooney denies this, but what is that ragging
42:02
Speaker 2: shape performance sex act on Clooney?
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Speaker 8: Why you know, Nancy, there's so much that's wrong with this.
42:09
Speaker 8: I mean, obviously their lives are completely sexualized.
42:12
Speaker 7: That's how they relate to everybody.
42:14
Speaker 8: This this laughing at Virgina Geoffrey because she had little
42:18
Speaker 8: hearts on her underwear. That's actually is sadism. That's taking
42:23
Speaker 8: pain and causing pleasure. I mean, I'm sorry, taking pleasure
42:27
Speaker 8: and causing pain to another human being. I think Gilan
42:31
Speaker 8: Maxwell loved to have dominance over other women.
42:34
Speaker 7: I think she was envious and jealous of them. I
42:36
Speaker 7: think she thought that they had it coming to them, and.
42:39
Speaker 8: I think it was sexually arousing to her that they
42:41
Speaker 8: were humiliated. I mean, and this is what we see
42:44
Speaker 8: in all of these sex cults, that you have this
42:47
Speaker 8: fearless leader that recruits other women who then dominates the
42:50
Speaker 8: women under them. And the actual domination is what is
42:55
Speaker 8: sexually exciting to We use the word middleman.
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Speaker 7: This is the middle woman.
43:01
Speaker 8: The middle woman finds it sexually exciting to dominate more
43:05
Speaker 8: submissive females.
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Speaker 1: I can't have racked my brain.
43:09
Speaker 16: I'm thinking, Oh, and I've said consistently and frequently that
43:17
Speaker 16: we never had any sort of sexual contact.
43:20
Speaker 2: Whatever, Queen Elizabeth Rowling and her Gray from our friends
43:23
Speaker 2: at BBC, we remember an American hero, Deputy Sheriff John
43:29
Speaker 2: Moon Waller County Sheriff's Texas, killed in the line of
43:32
Speaker 2: duty after twenty three years serving and protecting, leaving behind
43:38
Speaker 2: a grief stricken son.
43:41
Speaker 1: American hero Deputy Sheriff John Loone. Nancy Gray signing off
43:48
Speaker 1: goodbye friend,