Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / Giving Back as a Business with Angel Johnson
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- 0:00You know, when I started a business, I knew I want to bake in supporting others because my
- 0:04mom has always taught me, hey.
- 0:06You know, you're doing good in the world and good things are happening to you.
- 0:09Make sure you don't forget about people, and you can help throughout the process.
- 0:13You don't have to be a super big business to start giving back.
- 0:15So that's I want to bake it in from the beginning.
- 0:203210 ignition
- 0:24Oops off.
- 0:26Ending small business failure.
- 0:29Welcome to the small biz chat podcast with a number 1 small business expert Melinda Emerson.
- 0:35Melinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 0:40you need to succeed and live the life you dream of.
- 0:43Now here's the small biz lady herself.
- 0:47Melinda Emerson.
- 0:50Hi.
- 0:50This is Melinda Emerson, the small biz lady, and I wanna welcome you to another edition of
- 0:55the small biz pack podcast.
- 0:57Today, we have a very interesting guest.
- 1:00Her name is Angel Johnson, and she's the CEO and founder of iconic.
- 1:05A motivational and inclusive activewear line that donates 10% of their profits to nonprofit
- 1:13organizations.
- 1:14Angel, welcome to the small business chat podcast.
- 1:17Thank you for having me.
- 1:19Alright.
- 1:20So you gotta tell me.
- 1:22How did you they're so many at leisure wear kind of lines out here.
- 1:27Tell me how you found yourself starting this company in in in know, how did you get the idea
- 1:33and how long have you been in business?
- 1:36So I started the founder of the company in October 2019.
- 1:40And it came to me at 1 AM in the morning when I was working a long night shift.
- 1:45And I turned to one of the surgeons I was working with.
- 1:48And I said, hey.
- 1:48I'm a sergeant repair company.
- 1:50And he said, I'm just trying to make it through the shift, ma'am.
- 1:52We get off at 4 AM.
- 1:55But the whole idea behind it came when I went to the gym on base and it's a a definitely a
- 2:01male dominated environment, any base gyms, as most gyms are.
- 2:05And I was working out with one of my friends and he said, hey, Angel.
- 2:08I don't know what type of leggings those are that you're wearing, but I can see everything.
- 2:12And so that was a horrifying enough experience for me to start start up business because a lot
- 2:16of active wear out there isn't truly squat proof.
- 2:19So if a woman's squatting, she should feel comfortable and secure in her body, to know
- 2:24that no one's looking and seeing her underwear through it.
- 2:27So that's the whole premise behind iconic.
- 2:29I have definitely seen people walking in the mall they don't know.
- 2:32You can see their whole business behind them.
- 2:35You mentioned that you you were in the military?
- 2:38Yes.
- 2:39I was in the air force for 8 years.
- 2:41Oh, wow.
- 2:41Okay.
- 2:42So you made your transition from being in the military to being an entrepreneur?
- 2:46Yes.
- 2:46I did that in August of 2021.
- 2:49Okay.
- 2:50So tell me, how did you come up with your name, Iconnie?
- 2:54Does it stand for something?
- 2:56Yes.
- 2:57Actually, it stands for I can overcome.
- 2:59Nothing's impossible.
- 3:00I wanted my motivational act over the line to have a motivational name.
- 3:05Very neat.
- 3:06Very neat.
- 3:07Was it hard when you first got started to figure out sort of, like, how you were gonna
- 3:12manufacture?
- 3:13I mean, know if you have a sewing background, but, like, how did you get started
- 3:18manufacturing your your initial products?
- 3:21I think that was the toughest part learning, hey.
- 3:24Do I use a, middle man to do it and the price associated with that?
- 3:29So it's definitely some failed iterations before that.
- 3:32And then I finally learned that, hey.
- 3:34If you talk directly to the factories, Not only do you get the best price, but you kinda
- 3:39streamline the communication and make sure they know what you want and not what the middle
- 3:43person wants.
- 3:44So that's really how I got into it.
- 3:47And then a lot of tons of research and a lot of trial and error.
- 3:51So where do you manufacture your stuff?
- 3:54So I will either manufacture in China, Hong Kong, which is treated separately than China or
- 4:00Korea South Korea.
- 4:02I see.
- 4:03So how do you sell your athletic wear?
- 4:05I know you have a website.
- 4:07I've been all over your business website, but do you sell it just through your website, or do
- 4:12you sell through any other channels?
- 4:14Well, we sell through our website, and then we also sell through Amazon.
- 4:17And the partnership we've had built with Amazon has really helped the business.
- 4:23So what percentage would you say of your sales sort of, like, come from your website versus
- 4:29Amazon in terms of
- 4:31your About 40% through Amazon and 60% through our website.
- 4:37Okay.
- 4:38And what kinds of things you know, has Amazon enabled you to do?
- 4:41Like, do they have any, I don't know, support services or anything that, like, sort of, like,
- 4:46helped you figure out how to really leverage their platform?
- 4:50Yes.
- 4:50I actually really love Amazon.
- 4:52I'm in their Black Business Accelerator program that was just started in 2020.
- 4:58Specifically for Black owned businesses.
- 5:00They help you learn how to do advertising.
- 5:02They give you a mentor to help you make sure all your listings are good.
- 5:07So that's something I've really appreciated from them.
- 5:10So you would definitely recommend that program?
- 5:13I would definitely recommend that program.
- 5:15And they have a lot of courses that a business owners could tap into, not just black owned
- 5:21businesses, but the accelerator program really helps Black owned businesses.
- 5:25Okay.
- 5:27Now when you kinda first started out and you had this first germ of an idea, like, Did you
- 5:32have a plan to be an ecommerce business?
- 5:35I had a plan to be a ecommerce.
- 5:37I definitely didn't actually wanna set up a storefront.
- 5:40Because I am an extreme introvert.
- 5:43So even, like, doing this is, like, stepping out of my box for me.
- 5:47So I was thinking, Hey.
- 5:48Let me leverage ecommerce because I can talk to a lot of people without having to be in the
- 5:52room with a lot of people at once.
- 5:54Mhmm.
- 5:55So as you were growing your business, what made you get interested in, you know, setting up
- 6:01your business on the Amazon store?
- 6:03It was actually Oprah's favorite things.
- 6:06When we got selected for that, one of the prerequisites was to put your stuff onto
- 6:10Amazon.
- 6:11So someone could shop Oprah's favorite things list all in one click.
- 6:15Oh, wow.
- 6:16So were you one of Oprah's favorite things this past holiday?
- 6:21I was, in 2020.
- 6:23Oh, wow.
- 6:24What an amazing break for a one year old business.
- 6:27How in the world did you get that?
- 6:29What what I mean, did you submit?
- 6:31Did they call you?
- 6:32Like, everybody wants to know how to become one of Oprah's favorite things.
- 6:36And I have no idea.
- 6:38So I, like, I I have a I applied for tons of stuff in 2020, but there was never a submission
- 6:43form.
- 6:43You can't really apply for it.
- 6:45And so I got a call before it.
- 6:48The list came out, and they were like, hey.
- 6:49We want to feature your Uber's favorite things.
- 6:52You can send us some products.
- 6:53And I thought it was a scam at first.
- 6:55I had a definitely check the email.
- 6:56I was like, let me research this email, make sure they have the right ads.
- 7:00And then I researched it, and they they sent me an overnight label.
- 7:03I was like, oh, overnight label's cost, like, a $100.
- 7:05This be real.
- 7:06And so I was like, no one pays for this.
- 7:09And then, yes, they were like, hey, you're we we went through the deliberation process.
- 7:14You're an open to everything.
- 7:15And I was like, what?
- 7:16And so everyone always asked me that story, but I I don't ever have a good answer.
- 7:20Well, you know what?
- 7:22Who knows?
- 7:22Somebody heard about you.
- 7:24Somebody got some of your product and and got it to over and she loved it because I do know
- 7:29that she does not put her stamp on things that she does not legitimately like and use.
- 7:34So I mean, that's just amazing.
- 7:37So I know that you transitioned from military service into your business Has being a veteran
- 7:44been a help to you, or has it been a hindrance at all?
- 7:48I think people tend to trust veteran owned businesses.
- 7:51A lot.
- 7:52So I think that it's helpful also, but I think personally for me, it's been a lot different.
- 7:58It's been a whole overhaul of my life.
- 8:00I went from someone always telling me what to do and how to move and how to do everything to
- 8:04having to plan my own schedule.
- 8:06So the 1st couple of months, I got to my stuff.
- 8:08I can't do this.
- 8:09I need I need more structure, and I actually had to give myself structure.
- 8:13So, like, my days are so structured because I'm used to that.
- 8:16That's what I'm used to.
- 8:18Interesting.
- 8:19I bet you there's a lot of other entrepreneurs that could use some of that structure.
- 8:25Like, so they don't get caught, you know, looking at TikTok for an hour.
- 8:28Anyway, so I know that some of your proceeds go to nonprofit organization.
- 8:34So can you tell us about some of your nonprofit partners?
- 8:37So we donate 10 percent of our profits to nonprofit organizations, and some that we
- 8:42donate to our close the kids of Denver girls on the run of the Rockies.
- 8:47My sister's house, which is in Charleston, South Carolina, the food bank of the Rockies,
- 8:52and many more organizations and really how those partnerships started.
- 8:57Like, when I I was already volunteering at close to kids of Denver before I even started a
- 9:01business.
- 9:02You know, when I started a business, I knew I want to bake in supporting others because my
- 9:06mom has always taught me, hey.
- 9:08You know, you're doing good in the world and good things are happening to you.
- 9:12Make sure you don't forget about people, and you can help throughout the process.
- 9:15You don't have to be a super big business to start giving back.
- 9:17So that's I want to bake it in from the beginning.
- 9:20And then I thought, hey.
- 9:21The first nonprofit I should should support is close to kids at Denver because I I'm actively
- 9:26working here, and I see that we're struggling.
- 9:29As a volunteer, I saw that we were struggling.
- 9:31We didn't have enough clothes, especially during the pandemic because people thought do I
- 9:35donate my clothes and then some of the clothes we couldn't take anymore?
- 9:38We're like, hey.
- 9:38You know, you actually have to wash them now before you donate them before we could do that,
- 9:41but now with the pandemic, And then I saw that throughout the pandemic.
- 9:45A lot of people were suffering on their own, so they couldn't donate to non profit.
- 9:50So I wanted to do everything I could to help for nonprofits, especially in my community.
- 9:54Now your business is based in Denver.
- 9:56That's where you are?
- 9:58Yes.
- 9:59Oh.
- 9:59Based in Denver.
- 10:01Tell me about some of the things that feed your soul as an entrepreneur.
- 10:06What is your favorite podcasts that you listen to.
- 10:11Well, obviously, I'm gonna say your podcast.
- 10:16But things that feed my soul as an entrepreneur are customer emails.
- 10:21I always love that when a Summer will send me an email, especially ones with photos, like,
- 10:25hey.
- 10:26I love your activewear.
- 10:27Another thing that feeds my soul is designing the activewear.
- 10:30That's actually, like, I think that's one of the best parts just sitting there and sketching
- 10:34out something.
- 10:35And then when you see it come to life, I'm like, oh, wow.
- 10:37This was just the sketch, and I always, like, keep those.
- 10:40And then I think the third thing is being able to give back to nonprofits.
- 10:44So making sure I can help others.
- 10:46And then just seeing that, and we've also donated clothes when we some shirts for close
- 10:51to kids of Denver and about being ambitious.
- 10:54And those shirts didn't even last an hour.
- 10:56In the store because all the kids wanted them.
- 10:58So it's just I thought that was really cute.
- 11:02So now I know that you have a brand new line.
- 11:05You have a spring line that's about to come out.
- 11:08Tell us about it.
- 11:09Yes.
- 11:10So we have a collection on April 16th that's releasing.
- 11:13It's called the back to basics collection.
- 11:15And that has our largest size range to date.
- 11:17It's gonna be small through 4 x large.
- 11:19And we're calling it the back to basics collection because our society is so obsessed
- 11:24with being, like, the best the greatest is better.
- 11:26And a lot of times, we need to realize that we can exist within our own being.
- 11:30And then especially during our fitness and health journeys, we need find more productive
- 11:34ways to motivate each other and motivate ourselves without comparing ourselves to
- 11:38others.
- 11:38Because a lot of times, that's how you get hurt on your fitness journey.
- 11:42Either copying Instagram workouts or so.
- 11:45And then the nonprofit we'll be supporting with this back to basis collection is the mile high
- 11:50miracles.
- 11:51They're women that have been through the rehabilitation process.
- 11:54And now at this stage of their process, they're learning how to get back to their being how
- 11:59they were before their abuser or their addiction.
- 12:02Wow.
- 12:03What a wonderful charity.
- 12:05And I'm a excited.
- 12:06Listen, you've made you've motivated me.
- 12:08You know, I've got a big milestone birthday coming up this year, and I'm trying to get some
- 12:12of these pounds off.
- 12:13So I think I need some new gear.
- 12:15So I'm a I'm a get on your website when we're done here.
- 12:19Of all of the the the products and and different technologies that you use in your
- 12:24business, what do you think is your favorite business app?
- 12:28My favorite business app, I think, is Shopify.
- 12:32It's my back end for my store.
- 12:34The reason why I just love Shopify is all the analytic data that they provide.
- 12:38I think they make the whole buying process for the customer, you setting up your website looks
- 12:43so easy.
- 12:45Mhmm.
- 12:46A lot of entrepreneurs, particularly when they're early on in their journey, They had
- 12:50that one business book that really impacted them the most and maybe made them feel like
- 12:56they could actually do it.
- 12:57And I was wondering What is your favorite business book that you've ever read?
- 13:02My favorite business book is profit first by,
- 13:07By Mike McCallaway.
- 13:09Who is actually one of my college classmates.
- 13:11I've known him for forever.
- 13:12Oh, nice.
- 13:13We both went to Virginia Tech.
- 13:15Yes.
- 13:15That's my that's my favorite all, like, all time favorite book because I think it's very
- 13:19practical.
- 13:20Like, I have my account set up the way that book has, and and it has allowed me to pay
- 13:25myself and make sure my business is being profitable without and then operate with what I
- 13:30can because it definitely, like, honed me and, like, you if you don't need to spend 70% of
- 13:35your stuff on operating expenses don't operate with more of a lean budget.
- 13:40I 100% agree, and that's a really good book.
- 13:43I I actually enjoy all of Mike's books, but profit first is is definitely that's his
- 13:50legendary book.
- 13:51And and and I love it.
- 13:52I'm a big fan of the pumpkin plan too, but don't tell him.
- 13:55Anyway, but, but now tell me this.
- 13:58I know you're still just a few years into your business, but What do you think is the best
- 14:04business advice that you've ever gotten?
- 14:09The best business advice that actually resonates in my personal too is from my pastor,
- 14:13and she said to elevate your faith above your level of anxiety.
- 14:18And there was the whole message around that was, like, you have to have faith and you have
- 14:22to do the work.
- 14:22You're gonna have anxiety throughout your whole process, even business life, whatever, but make
- 14:28sure you're doing the work so you can see the out come.
- 14:30Don't let your anxiety stop you from even doing the work.
- 14:34I would really appreciate that.
- 14:36That is That is words to live by 100% is tweetable too.
- 14:41I love it.
- 14:42So listen.
- 14:43Tell us if we're interested did in getting some of your athletic wear.
- 14:48Tell me again what your website is and how we can get in touch with you.
- 14:52It's iconicic0ni.com, or you can shop Amazon.com/icony.
- 14:59Love it.
- 15:00Alright.
- 15:00Thank you so much for being here on the small Bishop podcast.
- 15:04Now for those of you listening, if you are interested in getting your business online.
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- 15:23Alright.
- 15:23Till next time, I'll leave you with this.
- 15:25You never lose in business.
- 15:28Either you win or you learn.
- 15:30This is Melinda Emerson, the small business lady, and we'll see you next time.
- 15:35Thank you for listening to the Small Biz Chat podcast with Melinda Emerson.
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