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Ryan Nielsen First Impressions, Franchise Tag Lurks | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 2: The new defensive coordinator talked today, we'll review what Brian
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  Speaker 2: Nielsen had to say. Off season business is well underway
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  Speaker 2: lot to get to obviously likes it's been a while
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  Speaker 2: since we've talked Yeah, I'm great man off season and
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  Speaker 2: now we're back in the flow again. We've got the
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  Speaker 2: combine in a couple of weeks, the league year coming up.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to the off season priorities for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: coming up in just a little bit. But a big
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  Speaker 2: day to day here at the midller of Electric Center,
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  Speaker 2: the new defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen speaking with the media,
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  Speaker 2: and the first question, what is this defense going to
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  Speaker 2: feel like?
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  Speaker 3: First of all, we're going to be kind of the
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  Speaker 3: overview of everything is is we want to be attacking
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  Speaker 3: and aggressive in everything that we do. How we fit
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  Speaker 3: the run, how we attack blocks, how we play coverage.
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  Speaker 3: We want to be a forward, leaning, forward, running, going
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  Speaker 3: forward defense. And you're gonna say, well, what about in
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  Speaker 3: the secondary and backpedaling nowt of that, But when we
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  Speaker 3: make our break, we're coming out of that break to
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  Speaker 3: go hit you. And so that's kind of the you know,
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  Speaker 3: the two things that every day that the players come
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  Speaker 3: in we want to stress there's some things fundamental things
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  Speaker 3: that tackling takeaways, ball disruption in pursuit, and that's what
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  Speaker 3: we're going to be about. Tackling takeaways. Ball disruption. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you have to be a good tackling defense to be
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  Speaker 3: a good defense. Takeaways are the number one way to
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  Speaker 3: limit points. Ball disruption is making the offense play not
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  Speaker 3: on time. You know, we're taking away a running lane
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  Speaker 3: or making a ball balance or disrupting the quarterback and
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  Speaker 3: then pursuit, you know, keeping the ball inside proper angles
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  Speaker 3: you know, running and hitting. And so that's what we're
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  Speaker 3: going to be about. That's what we're going to stress.
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  Speaker 3: That will be the first thing we talk about with
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  Speaker 3: the guys before we even start talking scheme or you know,
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  Speaker 3: stand or anything like that, we'll start. That will be
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  Speaker 3: our foundation and we'll go from there.
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  Speaker 2: That's Ryan Nielsen today. He played at Southern California and
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  Speaker 2: went to an off season with the Philadelphia Eagles, didn't
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  Speaker 2: make the team after training camp. Was a college assistant
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  Speaker 2: coach from two through twenty sixteen with the Saints, from
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  Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty two with the Falcons, last year as
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  Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator, and now the Jaguars. So what stood
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  Speaker 2: out to you today with the Ryan Nielsen? Well, first
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  Speaker 2: of all, you can kind of tell that the energy
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  Speaker 2: that he possesses and anytime you're looking at a coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: which is a big leadership position in football staff, you
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  Speaker 2: want somebody that can stand in front of the room
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  Speaker 2: and command attention. And you got that feeling that he
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  Speaker 2: can do that and with that energy that he possesses
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  Speaker 2: and what he was talking about right there about you know,
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  Speaker 2: we want to be a forward moving defense, about being
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  Speaker 2: aggressive and all that. I mean, that's the kind of
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  Speaker 2: stuff that you want to hear, I think as a fan,
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  Speaker 2: but also as a player, because it essentially it's saying
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be as aggressive as we possibly can be.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I'm excited about watching him. I'm excited
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  Speaker 2: to see what his staff shows because a defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 2: can only be a lot of times as good as
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  Speaker 2: those around him. So let's see what he surrounds himself with.
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  Speaker 2: He's got an opportunity to do some good things and
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  Speaker 2: and you know, fortunately he was named at an early
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  Speaker 2: early part to where he could. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: say have the pick of the litter, so to speak,
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  Speaker 2: but if you name the defensive coordinator next week, you
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  Speaker 2: probably have a hard time trying to get the guys
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  Speaker 2: that you wanted to get. So I think it was
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  Speaker 2: good that he was named at the point that he was,
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  Speaker 2: and it allows him to be able to surround himself
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  Speaker 2: with people that he trusts and that he feels good
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  Speaker 2: about well, he said today he was asked about that
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  Speaker 2: when he expects to have the staff filled out, and
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  Speaker 2: they said that, you know, there's people in place. They're
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  Speaker 2: waiting to officially announce those names in the coming week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: which gives you the feeling that he's got everybody in place.
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  Speaker 2: Seems like it. But it's just a matter of making
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  Speaker 2: sure all the contracts are executed, that the people are here,
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  Speaker 2: and that some of them are signed. Maybe there's some
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  Speaker 2: verbal agreements with some, but yeah, you get the impression
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  Speaker 2: that that probably most of it is done. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's funny we talk about this often. You know you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna expect to hear certain things. You expect to hear
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  Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator say, hey, we're gonna be an aggressive defense.
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  Speaker 2: Who's the last time you heard him say no, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna lay back. Yeah, he relaxed, play soft zone. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's what they say. Kind of corralum, you know, keep
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  Speaker 2: everything in front, you know, minimize the big plays. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of it's coach speak. But again,
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  Speaker 2: when you have somebody in that position, I always look
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  Speaker 2: at not so much the message, but how that message
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  Speaker 2: is being delivered. You know, how are players going to
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  Speaker 2: react to that person being in front of the room
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  Speaker 2: every day. It's the same thing with the head coach.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's a guy that has to command attention,
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  Speaker 2: he has to command respect, and he has to be
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  Speaker 2: able to vide energy and create energy in some cases.
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  Speaker 2: So I like what I've seen so far. He's a
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  Speaker 2: young coordinator with not a ton of experience of being
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  Speaker 2: a coordinator, but he's been around the league. I think
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  Speaker 2: what eight years a long time was spent with the
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  Speaker 2: Norland Saints where he was in multiple positions there as
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  Speaker 2: a coach. So he's got some experience there. And look,
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  Speaker 2: the head coach of the Norland Saints name escapes me
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  Speaker 2: right now. I'm trying to remember his name. He is
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  Speaker 2: widely Dennis Allen. Dennis Allen is widely respected as one
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  Speaker 2: of the best defensive minds in football and a guy
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  Speaker 2: that they have supreme confidence in as far as being
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  Speaker 2: a head coach. And so he's come from a very
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  Speaker 2: good background. Of course, last year the Jaguars played the Falcons.
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  Speaker 2: He was the Falcons DC last year and beat the
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  Speaker 2: Falcons in London. So Doug Peterson and the Jags got
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  Speaker 2: a first hand look at the way that defense operate well.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that that's important. You know, when you
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  Speaker 2: have a head coach who's an offensive minded head coach,
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  Speaker 2: you will I think you look at it from the
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  Speaker 2: perspective of which coordinator challenged us as an offense. And
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  Speaker 2: so Doug having first hand experience, and I'm sure that
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  Speaker 2: Doug also talked to some of the other offensive coaches,
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  Speaker 2: maybe press Taylor to get a feel for, Hey, look
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  Speaker 2: which defense did you feel like gave us a big
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  Speaker 2: challenge from a scheme standpoint? And so that perspective sometimes can,
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  Speaker 2: I think can have a huge impact on the decision
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  Speaker 2: making process of who you're going to hire. You look
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  Speaker 2: at it from the other side of the ball. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you can also look at it from the same side
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  Speaker 2: of the ball. If you're an offensive minded coach and
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  Speaker 2: you're looking to hire an offensive coordinator, you want to
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  Speaker 2: sit there and look at teams and say, hey, I
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  Speaker 2: really like these concepts that this guy has. Let's bring
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  Speaker 2: him in. He can add to my mind and we
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  Speaker 2: can do this. But from an offensive perspective, you're looking
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  Speaker 2: at hiring that defensive coordinator from the other side of
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  Speaker 2: the field, which defense gave us a challenge. That's Jeff Logman.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's that's kind of that's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: impressive here, you know, when you look at it and
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  Speaker 2: up in front of me, I've got Ryan Nielsen's kind
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  Speaker 2: of coaching history going all the way back to two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and two, when he started his coaching career as
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  Speaker 2: a defensive assistant at his alma mater, Southern California. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: what it stands out to you when you look look
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  Speaker 2: at that history. For me, I look at that and go, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: where did he cross paths with Doug Peterson. There is
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  Speaker 2: no passage that's cross there. He said today, you had
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  Speaker 2: never met him. So this is outside the box. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson with the initial staff Mike Caldwell, there was
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  Speaker 2: familiarity there, and so I like the sometimes it looks
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you've got to go outside the box, You've got
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  Speaker 2: to go outside your comfort zone. And so I think
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  Speaker 2: this also could also speak volumes for Ryan Neilson as
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  Speaker 2: far as maybe the respect that they have for him
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  Speaker 2: as a defensive coach them going up against him, because
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  Speaker 2: there is no familiarity there with that hire. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: and look, Doug Peterson wants to have a defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 2: that he can be hands off. Okay, that's your side
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  Speaker 2: of the ball. You handle that. I'll manage the team
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  Speaker 2: and I'll put my two cents in with the offense,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because that's as a head coach, you want
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  Speaker 2: to have people that you can trust, especially on the
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  Speaker 2: side of the ball that you don't have a specialty.
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  Speaker 2: So so I like this, I like this higher and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of respect, a lot of good things that
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  Speaker 2: I've heard about Ryan Nielsen from people in Atlanta and
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  Speaker 2: people around the league. Insted to see the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the staff too. I mean that whole side of the
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  Speaker 2: ball is pretty much wiped out with only a couple
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  Speaker 2: of exceptions. So what does he come up with with
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  Speaker 2: some of these position coaches? Well, and most importantly as
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  Speaker 2: a staff, they're probably in the very early formative stages
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  Speaker 2: of what they want to do as a defense. You know,
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  Speaker 2: these got the principles, but all of those principles have
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  Speaker 2: to be able to be influenced by the talent that
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  Speaker 2: you have on your roster, because look, you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to play Style X when you got Style Y players. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so you want to make sure that you custom fit
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  Speaker 2: your defense to fit the personnel that you have. So
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  Speaker 2: they're still in the discovery process, I'm sure as the
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  Speaker 2: defensive staff. He talked about that with Frevon Walker. He
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  Speaker 2: was asked about today, how could Walker move inside more
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  Speaker 2: and all this. He's like, well, we'll figure out what
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  Speaker 2: they do best and then we'll plan it around. They've
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of film to watch. Yes, they do
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  Speaker 2: a lot of film to watch, and I'm sure as
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  Speaker 2: the defensive staff, they're trying to get caught up on
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  Speaker 2: their own team. And then right now, I'm sure most
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  Speaker 2: of the staff's around the National Football League are trying
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  Speaker 2: to evaluate free agency. And then after that, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: that it goes on to evaluating the college game. But
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  Speaker 2: when you have a new staff like this, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to put a playbook together. Nielsen, I'm sure has a
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  Speaker 2: playbook that he's brought in from Atlanta, but he wants
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that his staff gets up to speed
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  Speaker 2: as part of this as well. You know what, it
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  Speaker 2: would help a new defensive staff, Josh Allen on your team.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll come back in a moment and get into
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  Speaker 2: that discussion on the Jaguars outside linebacker a pending free agents.
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  Speaker 2: Josh All'll be here one way or another.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh will be a Jaguar. I know Josh wants
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  Speaker 4: to be here. I know we want him here. You know.
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  Speaker 4: Can we come to a number that works for everybody?
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  Speaker 4: That's that's the key, and I respect that. It's like
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  Speaker 4: I said last year with Evans situation, you gotta respect
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  Speaker 4: these guys that put themselves in this position. They work hard,
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  Speaker 4: they deserve to make good money. What that good means
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  Speaker 4: to them is could be different than what it means
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  Speaker 4: to us. So we just got to come together, sit
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  Speaker 4: down at the table and work things out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's try balking you back in late January when I
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  Speaker 2: asked about Josh Allen, welcome back. Is Jaguars happy? I
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  Speaker 2: show back after the hiatus, Well, that was the last
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  Speaker 2: time we've heard Trent Balkey at the microphone. We'll likely
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  Speaker 2: hear him again at the combine at the end of February,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of business to attend to between now
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  Speaker 2: and the start of the league year in mid March
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  Speaker 2: March thirteenth, four pm, the start of the league year
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  Speaker 2: and the start of free agency, Josh Allen has to
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  Speaker 2: be right up there at the top of the list
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  Speaker 2: of priorities. Well, it's one of the things that you
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  Speaker 2: can work on. I mean you can't work on free agency.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you can work on evaluating, but you can't
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  Speaker 2: work on the contractual part of it unless you're being
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  Speaker 2: a blatant cheater. I guess. So, I'm sure it does
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  Speaker 2: happens once. Maybe on the side you could probably do that,
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  Speaker 2: But yes, it's something that can be worked on right now.
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  Speaker 2: I know that Josh is camped pretty anxious, and they
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  Speaker 2: had a response to Trent's words that hey, let's get
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  Speaker 2: sit down on the table and let's not talk about
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  Speaker 2: it in immediate sy, let's talk about it in private.
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  Speaker 2: And Josh tren is right. Josh has earned through hard
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  Speaker 2: work and performance to be in the position that he is,
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  Speaker 2: which is to make a lot more money now than
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  Speaker 2: he probably would have made if the contract were done
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  Speaker 2: last year or the year before that. So you could
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  Speaker 2: maybe level some criticism and that the contract should have
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  Speaker 2: been done already. He's a to me, he was a
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  Speaker 2: foundation guy two years ago, a guy that you wanted
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that you tried to keep around. So
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  Speaker 2: what does the numbers look like? Now, what does Joey
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  Speaker 2: Bosa make a lot? Bosa is what in the twenty
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  Speaker 2: eight million a year range? Somewhere in that range, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean somewhere in that range five years, one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and thirty five million, So yeah, thirty twenty seven average
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  Speaker 2: annual salary. Yeah, I mean, so that was a contract
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  Speaker 2: that was done last year, right at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: last year. So I mean you're looking at somewhere in
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  Speaker 2: that range. I mean, I'm a representative for Josh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking at a year later. Let's let's start with that number,
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  Speaker 2: you know, or maybe even go up a little higher.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you can always go down, you can't go up.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean it's going to be somewhere in that
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  Speaker 2: mid twenties to high twenties range per year. And if not,
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  Speaker 2: then you have the option of using the franchise tag
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  Speaker 2: to buy yourself some time. But you'd like to not
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  Speaker 2: use a franchise tag in this situation because he's a
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  Speaker 2: guy that you would like to commit to for a
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  Speaker 2: long term, because he's one of those guys that you
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  Speaker 2: want to have on your team. Franchise tag number is
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  Speaker 2: allegedly going to be around twenty three million dollars for
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  Speaker 2: a defensive end, so twenty one to nine for linebasters.
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  Speaker 2: So most of the conversations, I believe you look at, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: franchise tag in year one, franchise tag in year two,
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  Speaker 2: you have to add forty percent of those Okay, correct?
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  Speaker 2: So okay, so you're looking at you know, essentially thirty
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  Speaker 2: thirty let's say just thirty two. That'd be the second
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  Speaker 2: thirty one, thirty one, that's thirty one, right, So we're
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  Speaker 2: park So I mean, if you're when you're having a conversation,
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  Speaker 2: you're your beginning conversation is got to be Okay, the
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  Speaker 2: first two years, the guaranteed money's got to be somewhere
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  Speaker 2: around fifty four million. I mean, that's that's just the
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  Speaker 2: numbers of the National Football League nowadays. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and that's I mean, that's where the agent's going to
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: start the negotiations at, right. I mean, he's gonna look
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: at Bosa's contract, what was done last year, and look
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: at the franchise tag number this year versus what the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: franchise tag would be in year two, and look at
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: that and say, okay, here's where we start. It's a
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: lot of money. Devil's a football player, Devil's advocate. Right.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: The argument I think probably could be made the other
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: way that he was great as a rookie Pro Bowl player. Yeah,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: was banged up a good bit middle of his career,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: that's right, and then last year turned it on in
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: a contract year. So well, you're missing a year in there. Okay,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: you're basically you know, you're you're putting it in three years.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: There's more than three years in there. Yeah, I know,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: you know. So he's in general the middle three he had,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: He's had an excellent year as a rookie with good
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: players around him. Was banged up a couple of years ago,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: had a solid second year I believe it was, and
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: then last year had a fantastic year. But that fantastic
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: year also was there without a dominant pass rush force
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: in the middle. Yeah, Trayvon on the other side, who
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: was good. I don't want to say he was great.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I think he still got a ways to go to
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: be in that great category. But name me a dominant
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: inside pass rusher that the Jaguars have. They didn't. They
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: didn't show it a lot. They don't. They don't, So
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I mean you're talking. You know that Josh earned these numbers, okay,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: on his own. It's not like that he was the
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: the beneficiary of having John Randall, okay, or Bruce Smith
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: up in the inside. Then he's, you know, just going
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: to reap the benefits that that wasn't the case. Josh
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: earned this this number, and he earned the contract that
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: he's going to get, you know. And he's a good
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: football player. You know. The one thing about Josh and
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and what I love about him, he was banged up
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit at the beginning of this year. He
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: was past year. Remember he had the shoulder issue that
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: kind of was banged up, but he fought through it,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: you know. And the one thing about Josh that I
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: always give him credit for is Josh is one hundred
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: percent team guy first, and he's always an availability, productivity,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, all those things, those those terms that you
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: talk about for football players. He's been those terms for
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: this football team. And it also if you don't sign
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: him now, you've created another hole, yeah, at some point,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: and it would be another first round pick that you
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: don't get to a second contract in this franchise, and
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that's what you want to have. It has plagued this organization.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: That's going to stop at some point. Another name on
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the list of possible priorities Calvin Ridley, appending free agent.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Let's hear what the GM had to say about Ridley.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Calvin did some awfully good things. I love Calvin Ridley.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: He's he's all ball. You guys in Gales that were
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: able to see a practice, I mean he loves he
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: loves to practice, he loves to play, he loves the game,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: and the sky's the limit.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: He's only going to.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Get better because of the way he works. You know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: when you love something as much as he loves football,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: you can't help but get better.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: So there you have it with Calvin Ridley. And if
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: they re sign him the way I understand it before
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the start of the league year, then they would have
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: to give up that second round pick as part of
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the compensation to the Falcons. Yeah, whatever you do, you
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: don't want to give up the high pick. I mean, seriously,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you don't. You just don't want to do that, And
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: that'd rather not right. And well you you have a
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: choice in that matter. Do not do anything that where
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: you have to give up the higher pick. Do you
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: do you need him on this team? Can you do
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you need if you don't need anybody on this team,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I mean except for the franchise quarterback. You gotta have
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. You can you can win football games with
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: other players, is you know. Look, the reality is is
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: that last year Calvin Ridley had a solid first year.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: And when I say solid, I would say solid plus
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: because remember he missed time because this suspension two years,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: first time in a new system, first time with a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: new quarterback. But there were times this past year, and
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you can't ignore the fact that there were times that
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: there seemed to be a lack of being on the
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: same page. And if you if you stick your head
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: in the sand, you're making a mistake on that. I
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: think you also have a significant amount invested in Christian Kirk.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: You have a guy that the quarterback trusts in extreme fashion,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: and Zay Jones if he's out there and when he's
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: out there now he's banged up this past year, Evan Ingram,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: you got a significant amount invested in him, you know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and at some point you need the one part I
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: think that you're missing at that position as a guy
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: that can take the top off of a defense that's
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: not Calvin Ridley. That's not Christian Kirk. So can you
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: live without him? Sure, you can live without him. And
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: a perfect world, which you'd like to be doing is
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: is growing and developing some of your own that you know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: when you have a situation like this, you sit there
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: and you go, you know what, we got Bob Okay
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that was a backup this past year and he's ready
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to take that next step into a Calvin Ridley type
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: of class. Do you have that at that position right now?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: They haven't been able to draft high receivers. I mean
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the receivers that are the backup guys are well round undrafted.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: That's kind of what has plagued the franchise for I
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: don't want to say its entirety is, but it's you know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: you've got a draft better so that you can develop
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: players because that's the lifeblood of any franchise. And I'm
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: not criticizing the draft from last year of the year before,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: but long term, because sometimes it takes two to three
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: years to develop some of these guys so that they
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: are those type of players for you once they get
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the year three or year four, especially a receiver. It's
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: so hard for a rookie receiver to come in and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: just blow it out of the water. Well, it's getting
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: easier now because the college game is now such a
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: passing oriented game. I think that's one of the easier
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: positions changing player to come in and to be able
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: to get what's the easiest. You think running back, maybe
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: because there's only probably so yeah, just because running back
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: is a oh gosh, I mean, so react and hit
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the hole. Well, yeah, it's an instinctive position. Offensive line,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: sometimes it takes the guy to get the size to
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: develop the technique. Defensive end or pass rushers, defensive tackles
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: kind of the same thing, learning the technique. Learning that
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: being the biggest, the strong was in the baddest dude
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: on the football team doesn't work anymore. You need to
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: have technique. I think corner is a position that takes
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: a little time to develop. Quarterback definitely takes time developing. Yeah,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I think wide receiver, running back, you know, kind of
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: those positions that you know where they're going are a
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: little bit easier to develop than some of the others. Probably,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: But if you're a rookie receiver and you're facing off
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: against a high caliber fourth year, fifth year corner on
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the other side, that corner is going to have the
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: advantage because he's got the experience against you. Yeah, I mean,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: but there's some wide receivers Puka Nukua, right, Okay, he
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: came in and like late pull it out of the
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: water rookie year, but they found a way in that
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: offense to use it. Well. Look, I think you can
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: always find guys that step into the league and are
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: ready to go right away, no matter what the position,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: because it happens Quentin Nelson, for example, the first year
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: when he was with the Colts an offensive lineman, a
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: position we were just talking about it takes time to develop
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: a Day one he rolled in there. Dominant force, dominant force,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: justin Jefferson, dominant force from the day he came into
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the league. Okay, the tight end for the Detroit Lions,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: day one force, the moment he came into the league.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: This pasture, when we were watching him in then Interscott
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: squad practices, we were like, Wow, this guy's really good.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: So some guys are just have a knack for it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: They're ready to go, ready to go right out of
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the gate. But it does it's not common. Yeah, it's
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: it's that's the point that you got to find those guys.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: What is the number with Ridley, you know, I mean
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: that's a great question. I'm sure I wouldn't think that
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: in theory he would want to go test the water
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: well and coming off the season that he had. And
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that's and I think also you want to you want
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: to see also what's out there from from Nordan, you
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: always want to see what's out there, even even with
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen. But the position that Josh Allen plays, that's
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: you don't find god who at that position that become available.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I mean that's corner, pass rusher, quarterback, I mean left tackles.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Those are the guys, I mean, offensive lineman you've been
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Actually if you look over the last couple of years,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: those guys have been changing teams more often than not.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: But the pass rushers, the corners, the quarterbacks, they don't
• 26:23
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• 26:49
  Speaker 2: that running got blown out by Bosseli in that one year.
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  Speaker 2: I challenged him to a duel. Yeah, and after about
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• 27:13
  Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We'll hear more from Ryan Nilson,
• 27:17
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• 27:44
  Speaker 3: We took them down to Disney World, and we were
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  Speaker 3: on the Small World and eventually the slip got granted
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  Speaker 3: and I've got our kids and my wife's on the
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  Speaker 3: other end, and we just sat down on the boat
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: and got a text from Coach Peterson basically said hey,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Ryan as coach and would like to talk to you.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: You know that type of deal.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: And I looked at my wife.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, how long is this going to be?
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Like I got to make a call, right, And so
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: you don't realize I was on I can't remember last
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: time I was on a Small World, but it seemed
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: about half an hour that ride and eventually got off
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: and it worked out. But yeah, so that's how it all.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: And then we were down there and it was really easy.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Came up for the interview and kind of went from there.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it was pretty pretty interesting how it all
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• 28:33
  Speaker 2: That's Ryan Nielsen today, Jaguars defensive coordinator, where he was
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: when he got the word from that coach Doug Peterson.
• 28:42
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• 28:45
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• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Last time I was on it, gosh years ago. But yeah,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: it's kind of an annoying song, it is. But it's Look,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I love Disney World, don't get me wrong, Okay, but
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: that's like, uh and it's like it's like a kind
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  Speaker 2: of a song that you would expect to hear in
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: a horror movie. It's just like the other plays over
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: and over and over and over again, and it's high pits. Yeah,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: it's eerie. Yeah, but Disney's great. On that note, Let's
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• 29:35
  Speaker 2: It's time for keeping it real. This is a segment
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: we always did on Monday night slots. All right, we're
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: moving it to Thursdays though. In the office. That's great.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: We're gonna keep it real. Well, I keep it as
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: real as you can keep. I like that out of here,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I like and keep it that way. What's the best
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: thing you heard from the new defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen today?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And yeah, go ahead, I'm gonna go back to this again,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: and it's not so much what he said, but the
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: way he says it, and that I'm a big believer
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: and guys that can lead, the guys that can command
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: respect that when they get in front of the room.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: And everybody has a different style. For example, Pete Carroll
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator when I was with the Jets, Okay, high energy, positivity,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: great messaging, fun to listen to, made everything fun, fun fun. Okay,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: fast forward to my time in Jacksonville as a player,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Dick Jaron quiet, understated, but when he spoke, there was
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a high level of respect, candor, and honesty that came
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: out of him. And so two different ways of delivering
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: a message. And I liked the energy that Ryan Nielsen
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: had to be perfectly honest with you. I thought Mike
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: caldwells come dry. I liked him as a person, but
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of that energy. Now and it's
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: early with Ryan Nielsen, but I like the way he's
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: talking about being aggressive. But all defensive coordinators are saying
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the same kind of thing in different ways. But again,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I believe he's in front of the room type of guy,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: and that's what I'm most excited about by the way
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Mike Caldwell ended up in Las Vegas with the Raiders
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: linebackers coach and run game coordinator. Yeah, he's looking. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: think Antonio Pearce is going to do a great job.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: He did a great job to finish the year out
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: with the Raiders, and I like Mike Caldwell and I
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: hope he does well. The one thing that Ryan Nielsen
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: is going to be challenged on, the one thing that
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Mike Caldwell established here takeaways. Yeah, he did well in
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: that statistical category. The defense was outstanding for two years running,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: So that's the challenge Ryan Nielson, and he talked about
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: how you limit offensive points and number one thing he said, takeaways. Well,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: keeping that on the front of the mind of the
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: players has got to be paramount to his success. What
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: did you like when he started talking about the secondary
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and the way they worked through their coverages and such today,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: what stood out anything? Well, I mean he kind of
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: covered it with a broad brush. He talked about it
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: in a lot of different ways, because you know, when
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: he was when he was asked a question about what
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: style would he play in the secondary, and he talked
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: about being multiple and that you know, we want to
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: be able to confuse, we want to look a certain way.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: He went all over the map, So I don't think
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: there was anything clear cut that he said that, hey,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: we want to play this style, because there's that narrative
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: that he they all play Man and his defense and
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: all this. You know, a lot of it may look
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: like Man, but it ends up being his own concept.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: But the one thing again that he wants to do
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: with this defense is to be downhill downhill. Aggressive downhill
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: might give a big play or two here or there.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: If you're no, that's not acceptable. To minimize the damage. No. See,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of people think that that those two things
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: go hand in hand. People think, okay, aggressive, Okay, you
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: got to give up some big plays, but we're being aggressive, okay,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Like so you have to live with the one in
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: order to do the other. No, no, no, no, Look,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you can play aggressive without giving up big plays. You
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: just have to be smart about it. You have to
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: pick and choose. You know, if you go to the
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: super Bowl, look at the super Bowl. Look at the
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: job that Kansas City did. Kansas City did a great
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: job as a defense down the stretch. They were aggressive,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: you know, but did they give up any big plays
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: are the forty nine ers. No, Oh, that the double
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: pass thing, but that's a trick play. Yeah that was
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: a weird one. Yeah, kind of a weird one. But
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, other than that, cam Ken City did a
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: really good job minimizing the damage and they played pretty aggressive.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: By the way, that was a great super Bowl. It
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: helps when you have Chris Jones in your defensive line too,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to be aggressive. If you know what, he might want
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: to block him occasionally. He did a really good job.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: He did a really good job. I was impressed with
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: the way he played in that game because I thought
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship game, I didn't think he was
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: at his best, and it was fun to watch him.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You know. And by the way, I don't know about you,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: you were probably thinking the same thing that I was.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I was happy because we've got some friends on the
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Kansas City chief staff. Joe Collin, the defensive line coach,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: happy for him, Andy Heck, who's done a fantastic job
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: with Kan City's offensive line, happy for him. Blaine Gabbert, Yeah,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: former Jaguar ring was texting with him, and he was
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: excited that he could share a Super Bowl victory with
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  Speaker 2: his daughter and but I mean just you know, he's
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  Speaker 2: got a ring now with Tampa Bay and with Yes
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  Speaker 2: and with Kansas City and he's backing up the second
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  Speaker 2: coming of the Goat. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: what a career. I mean, he's the builder of goats.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but he's there to back
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  Speaker 2: up the goats. And then he's in a great position
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: and he does a great job. And kudos to him
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  Speaker 2: and congratulations to the Kansas City chiefs. What a year?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: What three out of the last five years are going
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: to have an opportunity to go for a three peet
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  Speaker 2: this year? You know, hopefully the Jaguars will have something
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: about something to say about that. A lot of for
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: more Jags in that game. Yeah, John Taylor, Ben Bartch,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Ben barsh who was a backup offensive lineman for the
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  Speaker 2: forty nine ers. You know, happy for those guys because
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: we know him, you know. I mean, that's that's a
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  Speaker 2: great thing. I mean when you think about the league,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: is that you're happy for people that you know because
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: it's such a rare opportunity to win a Super Bowl
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: and for those people that got that opportunity and got
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: it just happy for him. I was texting Joe and
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Andy and Blaine. I was just texting them all saying, Man,
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  Speaker 2: happy for you. Enjoy the heck out of it, and
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• 36:37
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  Speaker 2: How about that? Pretty cool? Right, walked into the press
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  Speaker 2: It's whatever, it's fine. But I quickly quickly was like
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• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Wizard like a high schooler waiting until the night before
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• 38:48
  Speaker 2: wait until looking at potential draft pick tape. I actually
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: will start watching the draft pick tape starting in March.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: You got like two weeks, yeah, So, I mean I
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: typically start in March because what I try to do
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: is to wait on the top one hundred lists that
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: start to come out, you know, the prospects. So for
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the draft, it kind of gives me a little bit
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: of a guide to follow as I work my way
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  Speaker 2: through the different positions, and so you kind of check
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  Speaker 2: them off the box, you know, because typically I'll watch
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: the top one hundred, one hundred and twenty five prospects,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: you know, so I'm kind of covered through a couple
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: two three rounds because you know, our broadcast duties typically
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: cover the first round only. But you know, the potential
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: field of possible first round picks is a little bit
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: broader than just watching thirty two, Right, you got to
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: watch sixty five to really kind of cover the potential
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: first round and in some cases probably the top seventy
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: five or eighty, because that's the number that could be
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: first round. Now, if you know, will you get to
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: a point where you'll say, hey, Jaguars need these certain
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: five positions and go deeper in those positions a maytime
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: in the fifth round, or sometimes watch ten defensive tackles. Yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: you always watch. I mean I always watch the quarterbacks,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: regardless of whether they need one or not, just because
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: it's the most important position in football. And at some point,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: you know, the Jaguars crazy if they wouldn't think of
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: taking another quarterback. Even if you have one and you
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: feel good about your guy, you still look at the
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: possibility of taking one. Look at what Kansas City, Kent
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: City had Alex Smith was playing fine, still drafted Patrick Mahomes.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: You know you can't pass up that opportunity. So but
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: to answer your question about watching a specific position a
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: little bit deeper, absolutely like defensive tackle, because that is
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: definitely going to be a need for this football team
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: going forward, pass rushing, defensive tackles. It leads us into
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: our next question at Van Diver twenty one for co
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: GM's Logeman and Shadwick. What is the primary need on
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: each side of the ball and how would you address it. Well.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I've said this before. This football team needs to get
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: more physical and more physical on both lines of scrimmages.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: So your offensive line and your defensive line. You've got
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: to get better with the interior of your defensive line.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: You need to get some depth at the edge. Okay,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Josh and Trayvon are not enough, and Chalevan chase On's
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: a free agent coming up. You're not gonna resign, and
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: really you got nobody else the smoot a little bit,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: but Smooth wasn't back to form last year. So you've
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: got to consider looking at depth at the edge position.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: But the defensive tackle you need to find a way
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: to get some pass rush from that position. And then
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: on offense, you've got to get better along the offensive
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: line and in particular in the interior of the three
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: and so you need to find a way to get bigger, stronger,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: more physical up into that area. I think that's priority
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: number one is the offensive set, because you got to
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: protect the quarterback and the weapons. This well, again, wide receiver,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: you never you never, I think you never pass up
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to improve yourself at the wide receiver position.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Now you had the undrafted guy from San Jose State
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: last year. Names scapes me now that you felt pretty
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: good about. But can he be the guy? I don't know,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: but you've got to consider drafting that position. Tackle. You
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: always consider drafting tackle because you can play tackles at
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: guard for a period of time, and a lot of
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: times college tackles are not forecasted or projected to be
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: pro tackles. Some of them have to be guards. Look
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: at Skeronsky with the Tennessee Titans. Was a highly rated
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: tackle in college, but ended up being a guard. That
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: probably wasn't the best value pick on the planet for
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans, because you don't draft to guard that high,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, unless he's a game changer. Elijah Cooks
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: was the receiver from Jacob Harris from Yes, thank you,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: thank you. But if you don't have, you know, let's
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: think about here's a here's another position, JP. I'm gonna
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: throw out there something you probably didn't even think of.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: How about kicker? How about it? Okay? You you brought
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: back Riley Pattersonlly Patterson shi a futures contract. Brandon McManus
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a question mark last year in
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Moments Yeah Later, Okay, I think you you absolutely look
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: at that position as well. But the priority, I mean,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: going back to where we started this thing, is on
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: the interior of the offensive line, defensive line. Interior the
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: offensive and defensive lines. You've got to get more physical.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: You've got to get bigger and stronger. Now, do you
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: have some guys that could develop? Could Cooper Hodges develop
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: to be one of those guys? And he's coming off
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: a knee surgery. There was some encouraging signs prior to
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: the knee injury. Where is he at now? I don't know.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: We'll see. Do you have any defensive tackles that you
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: feel good about their development? Devon Hamilton has got to
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: get back to being healthy. Hey, you got some young
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: guys you got? I mean Lacey was around right, he
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: didn't play much and he's he's one of those kind
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: of run stuffing but he's not a pass rusher. I
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: don't see dominant pass rusher out of him. He's a
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: guy or should I say the position you're looking for
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: is pass rusher, interior pass rusher, and that that's a
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: hard position to find, hard position to find. Look in
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: the look in the division, who's the most dominant interior
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: pass rusher in the division, in the division, or the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: most dominant inter player in the in the in the division. Butner, Yeah, yeah,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Forrest Buckner, Andy, absolutely right. I think Tennessee Jeffrey Simmons,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: he's good when he's out there. When he's out there,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: little banged up this past year, but when he's out
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: there dominant, he's arguably the best in the division. Do
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: you have one of those guys? I would say no
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: right now, No, you don't have one of those guys.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Get me one of those guys. Well, the guys are
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: going to be around that are on this defensive line
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: because their dead cap number is huge. Some of these guys,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Roy Robertson Harris I means doesn't have a big dead number, right.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: My guess would be that his time may be up
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: with his team. I think Roy Robertson Harris who signed
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: an extension last year. Devon Hamilton I believe signed an
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: extension last year. Fine, those two good football players, two
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: good football players. Devon's got to get healthy though. Now,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the last year was last year. It was old, I mean,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: just a shell of himself last year. Roy Robertson Harris,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I wasn't happy with where he was at last year.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I thought he was good at times, but then at
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: times he disappeared. He's got to be better. Yeah, he's
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: not going anywhere. I mean he's no, he's not going
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: anywhere now. But he's got to be better. Oh sure, Yeah,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: absolutely does fully fun of Cassi. I mean, he's twelve
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: million cap at twelve eight and the dead caps nine
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: to two, so you're saving three still big, that's still
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: a big number to not play. It's he represents a
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: cap saving thoughe three million, yep. Ish can't ignore that. Yeah,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: that's true. I mean, but I think it might be
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: more than that. I mean, so I think that that's
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: a position though you've and then supposedly that's that's a
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: position of strength in this draft. I can't say that
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: for sure. I can't say that firsthand because again I
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: haven't started the process of looking at him, but I will,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: and that's a position that I will focus on in
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: a big fashion. So you've got to be prepared for
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: this draft to not be a sexy draft, at least
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: near the top. It's going to be big uglies maybe, right. Look, Look,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: if they're out there, big and ugly is sexy to me, JP.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, football players are big and ugly and tough.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's where it's at. You know, that's
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: where it's at, you know, I mean, how many times
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: have you heard a coach say this game is one
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: or lost in the trenches? Today, defense wins championships. I
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: mean all of these statements that are made, But I mean,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: this team's got to get bigger, stronger, and more dominant
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage because if you look at
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: some of the big games that they've played this past year,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: that's not an area that they were winning consistently. And
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: on the offensive line in the interior, they've got to
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: get better. They've got to get better. One more question
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: at Cali hot shot IRL, what changes would you like
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: to see or would you make this off season? This
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: is yeah, that's a broad brush. I think. You know,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: they've made the big changes they're gonna make. I mean,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: they got rid of a lot of the defensive staff.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: A new DC's coming in. You know, that's that's really
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: the big changes. So, I mean the passing game coordinator's
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: gone now, right, so they got to figure that out
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: on off It's just one thing off hand. Okay, you
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: look at last year, the draft class that was last year,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: where did you where was the production at there? Right
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: tackle and Tom Harrison? Yeah, okay, any production anywhere else
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: for the most part, not really. Yeah. I want to
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: see more production out of that class this year. Okay,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: whatever it takes, well, you do you develop them. These
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: guys get pushed, they get challenged from another class or
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: free agent guys, whatever. I want to see production out
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: of that class because there was a lot of picks
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: that they invested last year and then this past year
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: they did not get a lot of production out of
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: that class as a whole, anti relative to some other teams.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Of course, Brenton Strange second round pick. I like Brenton Strange,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. I like him as a player,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: but he essentially played the role of a full back
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: last year. Do you draft full backs in round two?
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Tank pigsby another running back slation. You know, he had
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: a couple issues early on, and I think there was
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: a lack of confidence with him, and that's got a change.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Ben trel Miller foot problem all year long. Didn't play
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: at all. It's hurt in college too. Yep. Tyler Lacy.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: We already talked about fourth round. Solid year, solid year
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: for a fourth round pick, sir Abdula edge rusher, but
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: nothing out of him. Antonio Johnson was good late, love him.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Parker Washington had some moments arguably my my my favorite
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: draft pick from last year. Johnson. Yes, yeah, Antonio Johnson.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: This he's scouts. He reminds me of Hamilton with the Ravens,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: and that he has the ability to play nickel, he
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: can play corner, he can play safety. I like him.
• 50:15
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• 50:21
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• 50:23
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• 50:24
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• 50:27
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