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HEADLINES: Fines, Vaccines, and a Trillion-Dollar Trade Machine · Nonsense with cj little and Jeff Parker

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I mentioned my salmon rub. There's a salmon rub I have.
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It's delicious. I was making with the kids the
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other day and I had them reading off the description, right, the
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recipe and the description. I was still playing around with
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the measurements, war and whatnot.
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My son, who is reading now and is awesome, was like 2
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tablespoons of brown sugar. I'm like, OK, got it. 2
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tablespoons of brown sugar and then he goes 2 tablespoons of
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black pepper. I was like, OK, 2 tables and he
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goes one. Daddy, what's this word?
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I was like oh, that's teaspoon 1 teaspoon paprika and he's like
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wait, daddy, the other word was teaspoons, not tablespoons.
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So I got those like bath of black pepper, but at least he.
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Mentioned it totally. Throw everything out.
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Start over. I'm off by three.
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XI fished some of it out and I was like, oh it'll be fine,
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it'll be a little more spicy. Quiet please.
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But it was so funny that he was just keying off the T words
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being 4. No tablespoons 3 teaspoons.
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It was very cute 2. The Apple Company presents a
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truly terrible podcast. Welcome to Nonsense season 3,
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episode 65. I'm Jeff Parker.
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I'm still this is our. Take on the week's business,
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tech and entertainment headlines.
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This time, Europe cracks down. Twitter fined $140 million for
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breaking the Digital Services Act rules.
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Connects just go away already. More troubling changes coming to
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the Food and Drug Administration.
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Wait A. Minute Is it about the food or
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the drugs? This time, they've abandoned
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both of those. Now they're working on car
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parts. A fentanyl vaccine is about to
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to get its first major. Test.
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That's great, but I need a bacon vaccine.
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Anybody working on that? China's $1 trillion trade shock,
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global export surge among US dive.
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Half of that surge was just in dumpling sales.
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And half of those dumplings were purchased by me.
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I got the other half. Also a big story.
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Also a big story later this week is about UC Merced.
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Simple fix for California's energy and water crisis.
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Are we finally getting? Rid of people?
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Is that the fix? That's a good idea, I'd be in
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for that. Guy put up a video the other day
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that came into my feet. I'm not really sure why he's
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abandoning California and he's puffing and puffing and going.
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I'm like oh man, 1 less thank you.
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Yeah, you're gonna love Idaho. If you are not happy here, we'd
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be thrilled if you'd move away. You thought about Florida?
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Remember all the CEO's who are like and a half moved off to
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Austin. And they all came slinging back.
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They all came back. Yeah.
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I heard gas is really cheap in Alabama.
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Go for. It it's computer science
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Education Week, veterans find time for kids make an attempt to
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inspire K through 12 students to dive into computer science but.
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For the love of all things digital, no JavaScript.
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Anything but JavaScript, save maybe Pearl.
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No, Pearl, the kids deserve better.
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Than that. So basically you don't want any
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of the kids working on anything that can run in a browser.
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Yeah, I want them all just writing for for old embedded
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systems. That's it.
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That's all I want to ask. No graphics, no mouse.
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OK. It should be like when you
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become a sushi chef, you spend the 1st 10 years just making
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rice. Actually, truthfully, I would
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prefer everybody wrote in Wasms for the browser, and if you
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don't know what that is, look it up.
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It's the coolest thing to happen in the browser in 1000 years.
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Unfortunately, most of our listeners are married and have
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had wasms in years. How?
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How's your week going? Oh boy, my week.
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It's been an adventure. I have been managing my children
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course, which I think is part of what being a parent entails.
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My wife has been out of town. Yeah.
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You've been single parenting single.
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Parenting which every time I do this for a a couple days I just
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can't complain about it 'cause I have so many friends and know
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some people that do this every. All the time, yeah.
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Time and I don't know how they do that.
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I baked cookies with the kids. This is actually the most fun
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thing. Normally my wife does all the
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baking and I do all of the, the cooking, but I got through the
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baking and I was very excited to, to, to do this.
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I made a double batch and I called the kids and they
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normally help my wife roll them in the sugar and cinnamon.
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Yeah, sure. Making sticker noodles and Mike
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and I'm not making this up. My children looked at me and
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said, no, we, we did that with mom.
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We don't need to do it with you. And I was like, but you love
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doing this. They're like, no, no, just.
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With Mom, this is this is our thing.
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With mom, with mommy, and they just left the room.
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They had no interest in doing it with me.
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It's like her thing that they do.
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So I just baked them all myself. Did you?
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Have extra cinnamon in your snickerdoodles.
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Did you mistake teaspoons and tablespoons?
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No, I. Didn't didn't do that.
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This time I did I the recipe. I dealt the recipe call for
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tablespoons. It seemed like way too much
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cinnamon, but whatever. How do you?
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Oh no, there's no such. No.
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So we had a kid cookie exchange, which was super fun.
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Where have you remember that? Only seems like you bring like a
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big basket of cookies and then everybody shares cookies and you
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get a nice little array of cookies.
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That's the plan. Yeah.
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There was a mom there who said she showed up and she said I
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don't know how this works. I brought 1 bottle of wine and
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two cookies and I was like well. It's gonna be a small exchange
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for you. She thought the kids just
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exchanged like one cookie with their friends.
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And I was like, the good news, we have plenty of cookies.
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Don't worry, we're going to be just fine.
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The part that made me laugh the most is I made a double batch so
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we'd have extra cookies at home because my kids and I also love
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the snickerdoodles. My kids still took
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snickerdoodles that I made from the cookie exchange.
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I'm like, you're not doing this right.
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And they're like, but we really like them.
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But we have them at home and they're like, but we really like
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this at them. They're like, OK, fine, super
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funny. They made me laugh The cookies
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was a blast. I did try to exchange the kids.
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There, yeah, No, sure. Nobody was having that.
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I did my best. I volunteered for a friend's
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nonprofit event at the L Port Theater up in Noho.
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It was super fun. They put me on bartender duty,
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which is a huge mistake 'cause I just talked to everybody and
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people were like, where's your tip jar?
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I'm like, you got to tell me a joke.
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It's like no money. You got to tell me a joke.
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And people would sit there and like rack their brains for jokes
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and like, all I know is dirty jokes.
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I'm like, great, that's all I hear.
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Let's just let's go. I could give you 30 right now.
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You do not. Know yeah, I mean, I know how I
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know yeah, last time you and I had a joke off, we both spent
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time in the West Hollywood jail sure it was a blast I was
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excited about the football outcome, but I don't want to
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talk about it 'cause I don't like.
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Football outcome What happened in football?
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I wasn't paying attention. Saturday, I don't know.
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I watched A-Team I happened to despise.
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Didn't win as they were. Favored.
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That was the interesting thing for me.
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Yeah, there are an equal number of people who hate Ohio State as
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there are people who were rooting for Indiana.
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Oh that is incorrect. There are way more people that
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hate Ohio State than like Indiana by 10.
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XI mean some of us just love the Indiana story and what has
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happened there, but there are actually people who hate Ohio
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State and don't really care that it's Indiana.
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Just anybody who beats Ohio State is a hero.
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The entire state of Michigan hates Ohio.
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State oh, OK. Because, well, first of all,
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it's Ohio. You've been to Ohio.
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Ohio is the state you drive through to get to other states
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that are more interesting. Ohio is.
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It's the least interesting place in the entire country.
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I've been damn near everything. I've been to Wyoming and it's
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more interesting than Ohio. Wyoming is very interesting.
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What's not interesting about Wyoming is beautiful.
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Save maybe Sandusky, which is, which is where Cedar Point is.
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The rest of Ohio you just want to speed through as quickly as
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you can. And they know this.
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So they just, they just write you speeding tickets.
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That's, that's really all they that's their income.
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If I could just airlift out Cedar Point and the Cleveland
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Clinic and the rest of Ohio, we could just give back to the
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French or whoever settled there first.
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And on their taxes, they declare the income from speeding tickets
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as tourism I'm. Totally.
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Where they they educate, they educate foreigners about the
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state. Yeah, sure.
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Really great. I was happy to see the Ohio
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teams not win and that that continued on the Sunday too.
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I think the Bengals lost as well to the Bills.
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That was that was also enjoying. Yes, this.
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Is what I'm going to talk about too.
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I'm so sorry to make this a sports podcast.
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Here we go mean to. I will do it as quickly as
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possible. But Ohio came to Indiana,
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football was played and Fun was happy.
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The win ended an incredible 30 game losing streak for the
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Hoosiers against the Buckeyes dating back to 19, 88.
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It was the longest active losing streak between two teams and
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major college football at the time.
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Now Vanderbilt needs to beat. Alabama, which they might be
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able to do because Alabama is not looking as great as they
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used to, but. For some reason, Alabama made it
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into the. Playoffs.
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It's Alabama. Inexplicably.
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They're not, inexplicably, it's the math.
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How did this work? I mean, the people at Notre Dame
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were justifiably super upset. Notre Dame's terrible.
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They could just all go play in the toilet bowl.
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I don't really. Care.
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The victory earned Indiana's first Big 10 championship since
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1967, ending a title drought of nearly 60 years.
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Even more remarkably, it secured the program's first outright Big
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10 title since 1945. Wow that's incredible.
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I enjoy watching their head coach say that.
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He's like, I got 3 weeks to get these guys humble again so we
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can go win. And he's good at that.
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Look, that's such a great way. That's a talented motivator.
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First Big 10 championship to feature a matchup of the number
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2 and #1 ranked teams in the nation.
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Ohio State was ranked #1 Indiana was ranked #2 which by the way,
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we, yeah, we talked about this last week just a little bit.
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My favorite thing about the rank inkings, and I think this is
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going to come to an end now, is that Indiana was constantly
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lower than I thought they should be in the rankings.
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Sure you'd watch them play and you go, really?
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Why is this? Why are they ranked 15th?
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This makes no sense. Now I go, yeah, OK, they'll get
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it now. I think they'll they'll
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understand this was not a one time fluke that first year you.
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Know, I think it'd be hysterical if this week they had just left
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Ohio State number one and Indiana #2 just been like, yeah,
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I don't know, State's still pretty good.
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Ohio State's really good. I mean, this would have been
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amusing to me to just see the bias there they did with SC2.
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SC would have like, we would have a a dreadful season and
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then they'd be like, well, this next year they're looking pretty
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good. And then the optimism is eternal
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by the that's Alabama too. I mean, that's Alabama.
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Totally, yes. I mean, you got to start
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somewhere. But anyway, it's it's amusing.
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I think Indiana really deserves that number 2.
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The Hoosiers secured the number one overall seed in the College
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Football Playoffs, a historic first for the program.
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The winds sealed A130 perfect season for IU, who are the last
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unbeaten team in major college. Football, I think that's even
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cooler. So they're the last unbeaten
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team. Brenna Menzo's performance that
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night likely secured him the Heisman Trophy, making him the
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first Heisman Trophy winner in IU history.
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That's cool. IU will play either Alabama or
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Oklahoma in the Rose Bowl January 1st in the College
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Playoff quarterfinals. Sure, four teams get a buyer.
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Oklahoma versus Alabama will be on ABC and ESPN December 19th at
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5:00 PM Pacific. I will be tuned in to see who
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our next opponent will be. Fun, fun, fun.
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Are you? Go to the Rose Bowl.
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But God no. I and you should go.
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You have a. Problem with the Rose Bowl for
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me, besides the fact that I go to an awful lot of live sports.
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Yeah, yes, terrible. The seats are too narrow.
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The seats. Are narrow, it's on wood, every
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parking's terrible. Everything.
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Was awful, terrible. Just off.
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You stand up and yay applaud and whatever and when you go to sit
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down the guys sitting next to you sit down 1st and now you
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have no seat. You're sitting on their hips.
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Yeah, it's off. OK, two things.
9:37
One start your GLP one now 2. 2 might be more my problem than
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their problem. It's truth.
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This seat's too small but your ass.
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Is too big. OK, I.
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Use having this insane season they're playing in your
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backyard. There literally is not a
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facility closer. I'll save maybe one to you that
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they could play in. Just go watch the game.
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I have an excuse to go to Indiana and watch games.
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I've watched games in India. I have, and it's been a real
10:02
Memorial Stadium is actually an amazing stadium.
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It's really. Nice.
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I don't even know if I'm going to be home on on January 1st,
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but if I am, I'm going to drag you there and anybody else in
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your house that wants to go. How can you not go?
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It's IU playing, get some good. Seats then I don't want to sit
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far away. I'm going to get, I'm going to
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find the narrowest seat. I'm going to find the seat that
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says compact on it. That's the one I'm going to get.
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The one that you're going to be like there's no, you got to sit
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sideways. It's going to be like a double
10:25
middle seat. I don't even know how that
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works. No armrests.
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And then I'm going to book 2 linebackers to sit on either
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side of. You let's get to our headlines
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probably I don't want to do what we did last week and have a 45
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minute show. Twitter find $140 million by EU
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regulators Elon Musk Social media company X, formerly
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Twitter, was fined 100 €20 million by EU regulators on
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Friday for multiple breaches of the landmark Digital Services
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Act. This is the first sanction under
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the new legislation. The European Commission, the
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EU's executive arm, cited several violations, including
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the deceptive design of the blue check mark, a lack of
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transparency in its advertising repository and a failure to
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provide researchers access to public data.
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The fine followed A2 year investigation aimed at tackling
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illegal and harmful content online.
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Yeah, this was interesting, Yes. So first of all, it is
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fascinating to me that the EU seems to be doing, I'd call it a
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pretty good job trying to protect consumers online.
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I'm not saying they couldn't do better.
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They took their sweet, sweet time, get it?
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Coming around to this. Yeah, I don't, I can't comment
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on that. I mean, I think these these
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things are hard to get to the bottom of.
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I'm not complaining, I'm happy they finally did something.
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Sure you'd like to see they get a little faster?
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Because the US does nothing. We do nothing.
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We do the opposite. We're just like, yeah, sure,
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whatever it it. All it all flies.
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Embarrassing. There's this general view that
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like, oh, the EU is targeting American company.
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It's like, OK, two things. Well, no.
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The terminals are American. But also just not provide
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service there. It's not like you have to
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provide. There's a requirement that you
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provide service in in Europe. And then they yes, they do have
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different rules. Like, yeah, that's how it works.
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Like you can't be like, oh, they charge that we're going to just
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not pay for American companies, stop targeting American.
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Like no, that's how it works. If you want to do business
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there, that's how it. Works.
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They have firewalls. But like these are things that
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that seem pretty, I want to say obvious like what this seems
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like just just deception, like a lot of the and then we knew this
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we. It was doing.
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Three years ago, yes, yeah. So yeah.
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Anyway, this will be fascinating to see.
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I don't know if they have the ability to to appeal it there or
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what. Sort of question there.
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They will. They will be appealing it for
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sure. TikTok was also going to face
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some consequences and they changed their ways.
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Yeah. Do you know what specifically
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they changed they limited? The number of people who can do
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the floss dance. Isn't the check mark just like,
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like having the My Bach badge on your Mercedes just means you've
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got money, right? There's no, the the check mark
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means nothing else. There's nothing.
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There's nothing to it other than the fact that you've put a
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credit card in and pay $10 a month.
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Except I think they were giving blue check marks for people who
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hadn't paid for them so people could pay for them.
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And then some people who didn't want a blue check mark, who
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didn't pay for it, they gave blue check.
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Marks too. We just asked nicely, how does
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that work? Yeah, didn't they?
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It wasn't. They asked.
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They didn't want the blue check mark.
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They didn't want to be associated with the whole.
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Thing mean that that that the account was verified, Yeah.
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And now it just means that the account has a blue check mark
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like. It doesn't mean anything more
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than that. You know what I did?
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You want the Mastodon. Deleted Twitter.
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Like love? You deleted like off the
13:04
Internet. Wish 'cause that's way more.
13:07
Interesting. Where have you?
13:08
Been do you remember like Windows 2000?
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Something like. Everybody's running on a cached.
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Copy their browser. You know, that was that was an
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icon on the desktop by the Internet came Yeah, it came with
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it was called Internet. Exactly.
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Yeah. And if you drug it to the trash,
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it would say Are you sure you want to delete Internet?
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Yeah. And it was like, yeah, I'm, I'm
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pretty sure I do, yeah. Man, how prophetic were you back
13:27
then? Just dragging it over.
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I had no idea I had that power. Thank you Microsoft.
13:30
The part that I find even more amusing about this is, well,
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first of all, of course, Elon jumps on on Twitter and says
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this is bullshit, just as bullshit.
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So very, very articulate post. And then they very quickly
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thereafter cut off the European Commission's ad account, right?
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Which I thought was fantastic. They were just like.
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Which the European Union had not used in years.
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They're like, it's not retaliatory at all.
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No, just a weird coincidence that this happened two days
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later or whatever. A couple days later, Commission.
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Had not used the AD account since 2021.
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Yeah, apparently, but there was a post format that was reserve
14:03
for ads that they use. And it's like, OK, sure, single
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violation, because it was supposed to be like there was a
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video, there's a video like somebody might have, they may
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have posted it wrong, sure. But like easily correctable,
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certainly not with malicious. Sure.
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Here we go. By the way, their fines can be
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as much as 6% of turnover revenue.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are serious fines, unless
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you're Twitter and you don't really have much revenue.
14:22
Yeah. What happens in case those fines
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are pretty much exactly. Those fines are pretty much
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free. We're going to find you 6% of
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your revenue, and they're like, oh, actually we have to write
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you a check. Like, oh, joke's on you,
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European Union. I'm sure the Twitter right now
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in their appeal is trying to say can we do 6% of revenue instead,
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Yeah. Yeah.
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If we do this again, is it another 6%?
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This feels like. Free month?
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That's gonna be a lot cheaper than this number you've chosen.
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I don't know a lot about the European Commission and how they
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work. They should just move everything
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over to thread and and Mastodon and just be done.
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They should just be like, yeah, you know what?
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Thanks. We're leaving.
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Do you think they don't have a thread account or a Mastodon
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account? I hope so.
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I don't know. I don't.
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I don't speak European. Doesn't everybody who's doing
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any sort of social media influence now post on
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everything? It is incredible.
15:02
Every, I'd say about once a week I get it's some alert on thread.
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Hey, this person that you know on Instagram is now on thread.
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I'm like, where have you been? Like what?
15:09
Where have you been for the last two years?
15:10
As a consumer, I can be on any one of these services and it
15:13
seems like I can now see pretty much everything I want to see on
15:16
anyone service because all of the at least the smarter
15:19
influence. I can't imagine there's like an
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influencer still going. You know, I'm just posting on X.
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I'm just putting my posts on X because.
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It's a little bit of the audience there.
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My problem. With, I know, but why would you
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do that? Now you post on everywhere.
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I mean, if you're actually trying to get mileage out of
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your posts, yeah, you post everywhere.
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Yeah, totally. No, I'm with you.
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More troubling changes come to the FDA.
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On Friday, Vignette Passat, the Food and Drug Administration's
15:39
chief medical and scientific officer and its top vaccine
15:42
regulator, emailed a stunning memo to staff that quickly
15:44
leaked to the press. Without evidence.
15:46
Passat claimed COVID-19 vaccines have killed 10 children in the
15:49
US, and as such, he announced unilateral sweeping changes the
15:52
way the agency regulates and approves vaccines, including
15:55
seasonal flu shots. On Wednesday evening, a dozen
15:57
former FDA commissioners who collectively oversaw the agency
16:00
for more than 35 years responded to the memo with a scathing
16:03
rebuke. Uniting to publish their
16:05
response in the New England Journal of Medicine.
16:07
The former commissioners said they were deeply concerned by
16:09
Passat's memo, which they framed as a threat to the FDA's work
16:13
and a danger to Americans. Health, which is what you want.
16:15
You want the FDA really putting Americans health at risk?
16:18
That's their goal now, isn't it? This is.
16:19
Kind of nuts, I mean. That's just not the right word.
16:22
This is kind of terrifying. I mean, it really is terrifying.
16:26
I try not to be alarmist. But this will literally affect
16:28
how fast vaccines can come out. It was one thing when they were
16:31
changing their little recommendations for vaccines.
16:33
Fine, California, Oregon, and Washington all created a new
16:36
vaccine recommendation group. So that's fine.
16:37
We can, we can get past that this because you're changing the
16:40
way vaccines have to be vetted. You're literally requiring all
16:43
sorts of tests and things that weren't required before.
16:45
Well, you can't do it in time. You can't do it quickly enough.
16:47
I mean, you, you basically black hole them.
16:49
Yeah, No, you basically black hole them.
16:50
So now if you were to actually get a vaccine through this
16:53
process, it would be outdated. It wouldn't even be relevant,
16:56
right. So you've sort of black holed
16:58
these things to where it's like, well, instead of banning them
17:00
out, right, we'll just make it so bureaucratic, so Byzantine
17:02
that you can't get through it. Even more more meta on this is
17:06
just the, the, the willingness to say things that don't involve
17:10
what's that E word? Evidence.
17:11
Yeah, no evidence. There's nothing behind this.
17:13
The the 10 kids that were killed was like, where did this number
17:16
come from? It's the self reported hotline
17:19
that anybody can call, right? There's no there's, there's
17:21
absolutely 0 confirmation. Behind Previous FDA's have
17:24
looked at those 10 cases and ruled that they were not COVID
17:27
deaths. Yeah.
17:27
This is the world that that that we're in now, and this is really
17:30
not good for all of us. And I'll just be curious to who
17:33
we blame, because we'll blame somebody else.
17:35
It won't be this. The FDA staff who disagree with
17:36
the plans can submit your resignation letters, Passat
17:39
wrote. And airing concerns or criticism
17:41
is seen as unethical and illegal, According to him.
17:44
This is what he wrote in the memo.
17:46
Not authoritarian at all. Not at all airing.
17:48
Concerns and criticism is what science is.
17:52
Then what else do you do? But this dude's not rooted in
17:55
science, so that's not important.
17:57
I mean, this is the problem. Like those, it's hard to draw
17:59
the straight line between those if you don't believe in the
18:01
science and the data. Because there'll be plenty of
18:03
people who don't get vaccinated who will be just fine.
18:05
Sure, right, They'll get sick, but they'll live, right?
18:07
It's the folks that that don't have that luxury.
18:10
But hey, Empathy's dead. Empathy is dead.
18:12
Wait. So when you need an empathy
18:13
vaccine? And you need an empathy booster
18:16
for sure. Yeah.
18:16
An empathy booster, that's what it should be.
18:18
Just come and get your little empathy booster.
18:19
It's right in between the fentanyl and the bacon vaccines.
18:22
Do we want to move on to the fentanyl vaccine story since
18:24
obviously that's where we're leaning anyway.
18:26
Anyway, so the FDA is FUBAR. It's.
18:28
FUBAR. Yep, that's that is accurate.
18:30
They should change it from FDA. That's what the F.
18:31
Stands for Fubar, Fubar DA. FUBAR done authoritatively.
18:34
Authoritatively. Something like that.
18:37
Fentanyl vaccine is about to get its first major test.
18:40
Just a tiny amount of fentanyl, the equivalent a few grains of
18:42
sand is enough to stop a person's breathing.
18:44
The synthetic opioid is tasteless, odorless and
18:47
invisible when mixed with other substances, and drug users are
18:49
often unaware of its presence. It's why biotech entrepreneur
18:52
Colin Gage is aiming to protect people against the drug's lethal
18:55
effects. In 2023, he became the Co
18:57
founder and CEO of ARMR Sciences to develop a vaccine against
19:01
fentanyl. Now the company is launching a
19:03
trial to test its vaccine in people for the first time.
19:06
The goal? To prevent deaths from overdose.
19:08
Now that's what Narcan is also will do.
19:10
But this is more interesting because you take an advanced
19:12
prophylactic. Yes, prophylactically, that's
19:14
pretty amazing if it will actually work.
19:16
We've had these ideas before that we were going to have
19:18
opioid vaccines and we've kind of given up on it because.
19:21
Yeah, it's super. Nobody was making a lot of
19:23
progress and it was. It's a difficult problem to
19:25
solve. This is a nutso drug.
19:26
Just fentanyl large. Like every time I I look at it
19:29
and they look at the numbers behind it, it's really nuts.
19:31
It's 100 times more potent than morphine.
19:33
Yikes. And morphine isn't exactly a a
19:35
casual drug. Sure.
19:36
Like if you've ever. I've only had morphine I think
19:38
once. It was after reconstructive knee
19:40
surgery, and it was happy times. So I can only imagine with this.
19:46
But like, yeah, it is nuts how little fentanyl you need to kill
19:49
somebody. Yeah, it's not a lot.
19:50
Well, even when they use it professionally, when they're
19:52
using it in anesthesia, it's like at a 50 to 1 ratio.
19:55
They really. They dilute it down, yeah.
19:56
We'd have to, yeah, sure. It's it, it's really nuts.
19:58
So and it's kind of this like in, in once it's sort of this
20:00
miracle drug 'cause it's cheap to make it's it's super
20:03
addictive. It's not hard to get like, of
20:05
course you're cutting your. Your it's a synthetic, you're
20:07
not having to make it from. Poppies, you know, guys are
20:09
really working on getting their margin up in the illicit drug
20:12
trade. So there's just slice it in some
20:13
fentanyl now Narcan. So that's.
20:16
Naloxone. Naloxone, Naloxone, you know,
20:19
normally as, as Narcan, that's amazing because you can reverse
20:22
the effects of an overdose, right?
20:23
Keeping that around is is fantastic.
20:25
And yet there are police departments who are objecting to
20:26
carrying Narcan in their cars in their police.
20:29
Cars, well, there's no room on their belt.
20:30
Is that it? It's the.
20:31
Problem. Yeah, they got all this stuff
20:32
already in their belt. They need to just stop more at
20:34
the donut store. They'd have a little bit more
20:36
room. I was in line at Starbucks last
20:38
week behind a LAPD officer and I was just looking at their belt.
20:40
Oh yeah, so much stuff. And I was like.
20:42
There is so much stuff on there. I was like what is half this
20:45
crap? Like I was like OK you got the
20:46
handcuffs there, you got the non lethal spray there, you got your
20:48
gun there. OK and then this and then a
20:50
radio. But then there's like 7 other
20:51
pockets and like what else do you have?
20:53
Is there like a little like a little game of Yahtzee in there?
20:55
What else do you carry? How do you remember where
20:57
everything is so you can grab it quickly and like?
21:00
The one that's like out in like the smaller your back, you're
21:02
just not getting to like that's for somebody else to get that's
21:04
a game for somebody else that's. Behind, you know that real
21:06
estate is ranked what's the most important things.
21:09
We're going to put them right on the sides where you can get you
21:11
get to them quickly. That's going to be my new open
21:13
when I'm in lines. I was like, excuse me Sir, what
21:14
do you keep at your tramp stamp? Location.
21:16
What's that? What's something you obviously
21:18
don't need? If there's a butterfly in it,
21:20
that would be the funniest thing ever.
21:21
If he opens it up and there's a little butterfly, oh, that's
21:22
where I keep my tramp stamp butterfly.
21:24
I am fascinated by this. I know nothing about this
21:27
vaccine. I don't know if this is going to
21:28
work, but it does sound pretty compelling if they can figure
21:31
this out. Now, I don't know who takes it.
21:33
Like do I just go get it prophylactically in case I one
21:35
day happen to have like fentanyl in my crab legs?
21:38
Like is that or is it just is it for drug users like it?
21:42
Like I don't no, is there is there going to be some scarlet
21:44
letter of shame and you'll go one of these?
21:45
I have no idea. Does it have side effects?
21:46
I don't. Know no, there's no scarlet
21:48
letter of shame. I mean, a friend of mine went on
21:51
a a cruise and he was in Mexico and he had to have like a
21:55
Vicodin or something like that and he ended up not because he
21:58
was passing a stone. You want to know You wanted the
22:00
whole story. I do now so he.
22:02
Had to get some sort of and, and he so he went and bought these
22:05
things at the Mexican pharmacy that was on land and he
22:08
fortunately never had to take them.
22:09
Came home and had fentanyl testing kits because people do
22:12
now and checked it and sure enough they were totally
22:15
fentanyl. Wow.
22:15
So lucky him he didn't take them. 2nd just a little PSA
22:19
here, don't take drugs from Mexico.
22:21
Just don't. RFDA kind of a mess right now
22:23
still about anything else out there.
22:24
Although working hard to get to be as bad as the Mexican, yeah,
22:27
we should have. We have goals.
22:29
I am pro I am pro fentanyl vaccine let me just say.
22:32
That I am too. And by the way, the the trouble
22:34
with fentanyl is what is bringing us this research.
22:36
We we started to do this in the 70s.
22:37
We're going back to researching this now because of all the
22:40
trouble we're having with fentanyl.
22:41
Yeah, I think. We started in the 70s like a
22:42
heroin vaccine I think that didn't work.
22:44
So they basically just abandoned most all this.
22:46
China's $1 trillion trade juggernaut China just smashed
22:49
records, hitting a staggering $1 trillion trade surplus this
22:52
year. Forget a slowdown.
22:53
A massive rebound in shipments turbocharged this surge, blowing
22:57
past all forecasts. This historic surplus is fueled
23:00
by a huge paradox. While exports rocket trade with
23:03
the US is diving, shipments to America have plummeted.
23:05
And critically, Chinese imports of US goods, even staples like
23:09
soybeans, have fallen sharply. Now, no, no shock.
23:12
We all saw this coming as soon as those tariffs came into
23:14
existence. Yeah, I'm not surprised here.
23:16
This is what we want though, aren't we?
23:17
Great, now don't want to be isolated.
23:18
And non competitive? Yeah, absolutely.
23:20
Please. We're gonna never get those
23:21
contracts for soybeans back now because there's so many other
23:23
countries now who will supply China with soybeans.
23:25
Yeah, yeah, they're gonna have relationships with them.
23:27
And a trillion dollars is the largest trade surplus
23:29
accumulated by any country in human history over a 12 month
23:32
period. Yeah, I get that.
23:33
I mean, look, they make a lot of stuff this we should be working
23:35
with them, not competing against them on on low skilled
23:38
manufacturing. But what do I?
23:40
Know there is a ton of Chinese people and they need lots of low
23:43
skilled manufacturing jobs and they do it incredibly cheaply.
23:46
You can't do a labor intensive project outside of Asia.
23:49
Competitive, no, still to this day robots.
23:51
That's the next step. I mean that's by putting up
23:53
these tariffs. We have advanced robotics
23:55
studies. I'm for that.
23:57
I'm for more automation. We'll see that's what actually
23:59
happened, or not. Countries like India, Japan and
24:01
Germany are now running increasingly large trade
24:03
deficits with China as their own domestic industries face stiff
24:06
competition from a flood of cheaper Chinese goods.
24:08
Yeah, that's a big population. Whatever, there's one. .4
24:11
billion people the surplus isn't.
24:12
Just cheap consumer goods. It's heavily driven by China's
24:15
new 3 high tech exports. Electric vehicles.
24:18
Yeah. Lithium batteries and solar
24:20
panels. Yeah, showcasing a major shift
24:22
into advanced manufacturing. By the way, they do make the
24:25
best electric cars. They make amazing electric cars
24:28
now. I don't.
24:28
I haven't driven 1 yet. I haven't been.
24:29
In one I sent you a video. Yeah, Yeah, I want to see that.
24:32
Marques Brownlee did, and it's what he was saying was a $70,000
24:36
car that you were getting for $42,000 and it looked beautiful
24:38
inside. Now it looked amazing.
24:40
I'm very sensitive on these car things.
24:42
I don't have an allegiance to like one or the other.
24:44
I would leave just more to the process and the thing.
24:46
But I I need to go drive one and to drive one I probably need to
24:48
own one to really have a. You can't even bring them into
24:50
the US because we want to be as non competitive with cars as
24:52
possible. God forbid we measure up to what
24:54
the rest of the world is doing with cars.
24:55
Well, yeah, I mean, we've, we bailed on that a long time ago
24:59
as soon as we're like, no robots in the factory.
25:01
OK, enough of the headlines. In fact, enough with the episode
25:04
we have to get out of here. Special thanks to our floor
25:05
director, Joey Jewel. Thanks, Joey.
25:08
We'll be back later this week with our big story on how UC
25:10
Merced is harnessing the Golden States Now Network for clean
25:14
energy. Until then, thank you for
25:16
listening to all this nonsense. I'm Jeff Parker.
25:18
I'm still go. Hoosiers.
25:36
He's me. Who's me?
25:42
He's me. You mean Mr. Clean?
25:48
I mean the new Mr. Clean. He's mean.
25:51
What made him so mean. Dirt.
25:54
He hates dirt. Watch.
25:59
Oh, oh, oh. No other kind of cleaner on the
26:13
face of the earth. Cleans like new Mr. Clean.
26:16
No liquid, no powder, no cleanser, no detergent, no soap,
26:24
nothing new Mr. Clean. He's mean.
26:28
He hates dirt. I love him.
26:31
Now you have to explain to me, is there a new Mr. Clean that is
26:34
not the same as the Mr. Clean that came out many years ago?
26:37
Was this appeared to be some new Mr. Clean that I didn't know
26:41
about or I didn't know about whatever.
26:42
But as an old Mr. Clean, this is an I don't.
26:44
Remember. But I never heard this that in
26:45
my life really. Oh, I vaguely remember parts of
26:47
it is this. When Mr. Clean first came out of
26:50
the closet. I know it sounds like the way I
26:51
phrased that was bad. Is this I don't have a better
26:54
way to phrase it. Well, I mean.
26:55
I'm going to be honest. No one's surprised.
26:57
No one's like, oh, yeah. Well, we we were all, we weren't
27:00
sure. The giant good looking muscular
27:02
guy might be gay is that? Like totally.
27:05
Who's like perfect features? You got the one earring?
27:08
Yeah, no, you're right. Takes great care of his his
27:10
body. Totally.
27:13
Really likes everything clean. No, I'm.
27:15
Piercing that. I'm piercing it all together.
27:18
I think we all learned a lot today.
27:20
Yeah, OK, fill me in. So is this ad, cause I've not
27:22
seen this ad. I'm seeing this copy for the
27:24
first time now. Yeah.
27:25
From when they first launched Mr. Clean?
27:27
Or is this from some new iteration of Mr. Clean?
27:30
Did they change the formula? Not this is not current, this is
27:33
from the past. I understand that, but the new
27:36
Mr. Clean, did that come out ten years after the original Mr.
27:39
Clean came out? Did they find out the original
27:41
the way it caused cancer there? Was probably there was an
27:45
original Mr. Clean. Let me just let me try to set
27:47
the table here a little bit. OK?
27:49
The original Mr. Clean made his first television debut in 1958.
27:54
OK, so I will tell you that this is not older than 1950. 8 So
27:57
this is not that. This is not when it first.
28:00
This was not that. This was not when Mr. Clean came
28:03
out as a ship cleaning jerk solution.
28:06
I mean, that's where Mr. Clean comes from.
28:07
It was from cleaning naval ships that solution.
28:10
I also find it fascinating that Mr. Clean, when translated into
28:13
other languages was not Mr. Clean.
28:16
He came out with all sorts of other like.
28:18
For example, in the Netherlands he was called Mr. Proper, which
28:21
I. How nice, how lovely.
28:22
Yeah. But your task at hand is to tell
28:25
me roughly when you think the new Mr. Clean came out.
28:28
And again, this was no earlier than 1958 and no later than
28:32
2025. I just want to give you the
28:34
range. I I am completely unaware of the
28:36
fact that there was ever a change to Mr. Clean.
28:38
Well, it was an advertisement, so, you know, let's there wasn't
28:40
a whole lot of truth in advertising.
28:41
Let me remind you the game show. What was different about him?
28:44
I'm sure it tasted different, I don't.
28:46
Know was he no longer muscular? Now he was a scrawny guy.
28:48
How did they change Mr. Clean? LP ones he thinned right down.
28:53
He was just kind of scrawny. He looked a little unhealthy.
28:56
Sure. I don't know, I'm just rub.
28:57
Just telling you they had a new Mr. Clean.
28:59
I know nothing had a new, I will say 1980 because I have no idea.
29:02
I'm just gonna pick a date between, you know, the start and
29:04
the end. So somewhere around maybe 1980?
29:07
1980 is a very good guess. Yeah, it is very, very wrong.
29:11
I'm sure this ad and this is what kind of surprise moves from
29:14
1965. OK.
29:15
So they changed it roughly 10 years after they launched.
29:18
I mean, allegedly, I don't know if they actually changed.
29:20
They took the. Cocaine they took, yeah.
29:22
That's exactly what they they did and they were like we.
29:25
As it turns out, it cleans just fine without the cocaine and
29:28
it's a lot cheaper. But you.
29:29
Clean a little slower. They didn't.
29:31
They didn't, they didn't think the heroin out until the 80s,
29:33
but the the cocaine came out in the early 60s.
29:35
OK, so. New Mr. Clean, 1965.
29:38
Procter and Gamble released a new formula for Mr. Clean's
29:40
original liquid Clean. OK, so it has a new.
29:42
Formula that was noted for being highly effective at wiping out
29:45
dirt and grime on the spot, surpassing other available
29:49
products at the time. So they were just making
29:51
themselves more competitive. They put something a little
29:53
harsher or something a little stronger or something a.
29:55
Little it appears that they did change the formulation in or
29:58
around 1965, so that sounds mildly compelling.
30:02
Less than you'd think. Let's just let's stress the word
30:09
mildly. Shall we, And I think we should
30:11
go out listening to the original Mr. Clean ad from 1958.
30:15
Meet Mr. Clean, Procter and Gamble's New.
30:18
All-purpose liquid cleaner. Mr. Clean gets rid of dirt and
30:22
grime and grease in just a minute.
30:24
Mr. Clean will clean your whole house and everything that's in
30:28
it. Floors, doors, walls, halls,
30:30
white sidewalls, tires and old golf balls.
30:33
Sink those bathtubs, he'll do. He'll even help clean laundry,
30:36
too. Mr. Clean gets rid of dirt and
30:38
grime and grease in just a minute.
30:40
Mr. Clean will clean your whole house and everything that's in
30:44
it. Handy clean a kitchen sink.
30:46
Quicker that awake. Handy clean a window sash.
30:50
Faster than a flash. Handy clean a dirty mirror.
30:54
He'll make it bright and clear. Handy clean a diamond ring.
30:58
Mr. Clean cleans anything. Mr. Clean gets rid of dirt and
31:02
grime and grease. In just a minute.
31:04
Mr. Clean will clean your whole house and everything that's in
31:07
It's Mr. Clean, Mr. Clean. Mr. Clean.