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S4 102. Carly T Pt. 3 – The Depth, My Supernatural Relationship with God · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello folks. This is Princess.
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  You are listening to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
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  Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your
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  friends. That's tough.
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  We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
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  right now is a great benefit and virtue because it's an end
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  around between this whole corrupt informational system,
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  media system. We claim to believe in a God who
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  spoke the universe into existence.
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  And literally raised himself from the dead.
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  And yet we're not going to believe that anything else
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  exists in the spirit realm, even though his word tells us that
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  they do. Their bodies weren't permitted
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  to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go
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  to heaven. So they wander the earth.
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  You know, I've seen the eyes turn black to unknown tongues
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  being spoken. These giants would love way up
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  in the Highland. The young Braves, the young men
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  would hide up in the trees and wait for one of these 12 footers
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  to come walking down the path, and they would jump on them and
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  kill them, drag them back to the village and the village would
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  feast on the body. Freedom.
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  Then people start to get weapons.
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  They start to get armor. They start to build cities.
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  They start to fortify their cities.
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  Now God looks down and there's violence everywhere.
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  The battle, this war that we are at, is not against each other.
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  It's against these principalities and these rulers
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  and these archons in the high places.
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  It's really worthwhile to read the Bible yourself.
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  Fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control, because
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  we have to take every thought captive and resist fear.
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  You're going to have a testimony.
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  That is a justice case against the Kingdom of Darkness.
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  Welcome back to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
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  I'm your host, Rod, and thank you for being here with me again
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  for another awesome episode. I am joined by Carly for a part
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  three and this episode. It is one for the records.
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  Wow. We dive into all kinds of
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  different topics, but more importantly, we share our hearts
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  about the relationship with God, talking about the everyday
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  experiences, revelation, prayer, life and love, being the
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  greatest of the commandments, and how honoring and loving
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  other people really is causing the ripple effect to go out.
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  And to grow and to increase and to change all of those things
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  that have been stagnant because love has not been introduced
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  into the body the way that we believe it should be.
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  Being it is the greatest commandment.
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  And we're hoping this is very helpful for you guys listening.
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  We have gotten a ton of responses, emails from all
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  around the world about Carly's journey and her testimony us
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  painting the picture. Which we believe this is what
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  the church should be doing. We should be having these
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  vulnerable situations, but we should also be willing to
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  testify of the goodness of God. And you're going to find a lot
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  you'd like to reach out to me. We've had more listeners
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  reaching out upon request, and we're honored to be getting in
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  contact with more people like us.
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  And we also have some returning guests to stir the pot a little
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  bit that you guys will certainly enjoy.
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  And there are some new. People that we've gotten in
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  contact with that are getting scheduled to come on the Mustard
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  Seed for Season 5, which starts January of this coming year.
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  We are definitely going to send out the ripple effect and stir
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  some stuff up with what is planned.
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  But for right now, I am excited to jump into this episode, this
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  part three with Carly and I'm ready to go.
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  Are you guys ready? Let's go.
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  This is Carly Tubbs and welcome to the Millennial Mustard Seed
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  Podcast. Carly, that was an awesome
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  introduction and it is great to be back with you for a Part 3
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  Amen. I'm happy to be back.
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  Thanks for having me. Yeah.
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  So we've had quite a journey this far, yes.
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  Yeah. Fair to say.
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  We've been diving into the deep end of the pool here and it's
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  just really great to be back with you because I know your
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  relationship with the Lord really does model what the
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  body's relationship should look like in the sense of it is very
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  personal and we have encounters. That we're not ashamed to talk
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  about. And I'd like to see that become
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  more common in the body. Me too, Yeah.
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  Before we really jump into it, let me just ask you what's new
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  recently. Did you do anything cool?
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  Were you traveling by chance at all?
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  I was. I went to MM.
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  Hmm. I went to the Bride tribe
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  advance. It's a conference retreat with
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  Bride Ministries, But they don't call it a retreat because we
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  don't retreat, we advance. That's this is how the story
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  goes. So I hear.
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  And it was in Houston. It was a beautiful time. 14 of
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  my family members were there. And that was just such a
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  blessing to have such a large cohort of of us to to partake in
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  all the just the blessing and the time in the Lord, the time
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  of fellowship, just to see the body of Christ at liberty.
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  And even the weirdness, you know, because if you know bride,
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  it's not your standard Christian formulaic ministry.
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  They're helping people who are in deep, deep bondage.
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  And when they get liberty, they're not afraid to be weird
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  for Jesus. And it's not to say it's that
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  Holy Ghost, Holy Roller. Remember the 80s?
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  There was that movement and people would be like thrashing
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  around and it was real, real wild, I think.
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  I think Benny Hinn was one of the people that comes to mind.
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  But anyway, I don't mean that kind of weird.
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  I just mean like free, free to cry, free to laugh, free to run
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  around with the banner and just at liberty.
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  And the Lord we're supposed to have joy, we're supposed to feel
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  oneness. And it was a lot of that.
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  And it's nice that the Lord has made a home for people who have
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  ventured through the woo woo with Jesus and without him that
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  you can come together. And it's it's freedom, it's nice
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  feel, feeling of oneness and freedom.
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  So that was we got back on Sunday the 12th.
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  That's awesome. Yeah.
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  Hopefully someday in the future, Lord willing, I can go and just
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  get crazy and be free and have fun and chill with all of you
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  guys at one of the advancement retreats that well.
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  You know what I mean? It's not really retreat because
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  we're advancing, but hard to say it.
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  It sounds awkward to the tongue, doesn't it?
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  Yeah, it's like, well, that's not really what's happening, but
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  why are we calling it that? So, I mean, that's so cool.
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  I know Dan will be on very soon, actually next couple days.
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  So definitely interesting to be able to connect with him again.
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  So for the listeners, you guys will hear this one and then be
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  expecting Dan's episode to drop. In the very near future.
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  But tonight, Carly, we are gonna get into a wild conversation
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  that is unplanned and we are winging it.
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  Yes, once you've heard me right, this is how it goes.
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  Best every time is just being ourselves, coming together and
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  talking about listen, this is what God's doing in my life.
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  This is whatever gift we have. You know, I've been working
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  with, you know, some people that are seers or prophetic in nature
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  and just to hear like their heart.
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  But how It's it's one spirit, one truth, but a diversity of
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  gifts. And so it's like we're we're all
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  worshipping God, lifting up the name that is above all names,
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  Yeshua Hamashiach. But to see the individual gifts,
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  Carly, this is fascinating. It's a blessing.
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  So let's talk a little bit about your gift.
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  I mean, one of the comments that did come through, we're going to
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  shout out to Hulk, please don't smash Hulk, but.
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  You had commented and and said how fascinating it was Carly's
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  relationship with the Lord is and, you know, just kind of what
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  you do. Like, how do you enter in and,
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  you know, how do you advance to that place where it's so
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  personable and there's just so much trust in the Lord.
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  So I'm going to hand the mic over to you, Carly, and just,
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  yeah, just give us an overview. If you can kind of paint a
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  picture of what that looks like and help some of us along the
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  way here, it's a difficult thing to present as a formula that can
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  be replicated. This is where I struggle.
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  When I read that comment, I I thought about it on and off for
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  really over a month, and it's hard to present it in a way that
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  somebody else can replicate because it's so personal.
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  Like I was telling you off air, it's it's so intimate and
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  personal that even though we're all Christians, our walk with
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  him isn't the same. I'm my husband's wife, but I'm.
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  I couldn't be the wife I am for some other person because that's
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  a totally different person. And I guess the kind of tongue
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  in cheek thing that I could say is that I just literally had to
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  die a lot. I had to die over and over
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  again. I had to die to my ideas of who
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  God is and the limits I placed on him.
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  I had to die to who I thought I was and the limits I placed on
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  myself. I had to set aside childish
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  things, attitudes just so much. And you know, part of the story
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  for me is really getting severely church hurt and having
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  nothing to stand on except Jesus is Lord and God is good and the
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  Lord had to build me back up from that place.
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  But these aren't, these aren't necessarily things that somebody
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  could go looking for. Like Hulk is not going to go out
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  there and look to get severely injured by church leadership
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  just so he. Can have a great.
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  That's the only way for this to work, right?
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  Right. So I I think my best advice
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  would be just keep going. Don't retreat, keep spending
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  time in the word. Be willing to lay down the
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  parameters you set on God and what He can be to you
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  personally. Read the word.
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  Get around people who love the Lord too and intentionally
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  invest in those relationships. One thing that has gone a long
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  way in my life is my close circle of friends and family,
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  because we get together every week, every Sunday, and we eat
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  and our kids play and we fellowship.
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  We talk about what's good. And we've been doing this every
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  Sunday for four years. There's no leader.
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  We just come together. We're not even being very formal
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  about, oh, what's the scripture of the week?
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  What we do is we talk about what's good, and we have
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  struggled through things together.
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  And in doing that, we have seen the faithfulness of God show up
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  in each other's life, which builds our faith in God.
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  So when I'm down and out and struggling, I can remember what
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  my sister went through. I can remember what my friend
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  went through because we've walked heart to heart for years
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  and it gives me strength. And really to know the Lord is
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  to know other people intimately, and to know other people
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  intimately is to know the Lord because we are the revelation of
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  him. At the at the conference I was
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  just talking about my husband had a revelation.
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  He's I too have had this struggle where I'll see the
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  Lord, I'll see Jesus, he'll appear to me.
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  I'll meet him in the spirit. Many different things.
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  But I almost never see his face clearly.
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  And my husband and I in our group here that went to the
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  advance, we're talking about this like, yeah, we haven't
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  either, you know. And then my husband's eyes were
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  opened. I don't remember if it was at
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  night or whatever, but he said he saw Jesus's face and he
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  looked like every one of us. His his facial features weren't
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  static and it just made him realize that we are the
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  revelation of Christ and the earth, and He is the revelation
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  of us. This is how we inherit him and
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  he inherits us. And it's and it goes even to the
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  very basic level of appearance. And I think while in part what
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  the Lord was showing my husband was symbolic.
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  You know, what does the Bible say?
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  The greatest of these is love, right?
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  And when we look at each other, we have to recognize that we're
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  seeing an expression of Yeshua. And that's where honor comes in.
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  Because without honor, the enemy can just run roughshod on
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  relationships. But when you truly honor other
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  people, it is a protective force.
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  It's another weapon of the Kingdom of God.
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  Just like I spoke about a while ago, about vulnerability, Honor
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  is very much the same way, and so is love.
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  My sister-in-law said years ago, stuck with me so hard, I've seen
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  it over and over again. Love is the weapon the enemy
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  never sees coming, literally cannot see it.
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  And love protects and binds and catches the enemy in his own
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  gallows. So I know that's not really a
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  straightforward answer, but I just say to you, keep going,
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  keep going, keep seeking the Lord, keep spending time with
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  him in worship, partner with people who have a good
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  relationship with the Lord and build those relationships.
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  So many things came to mind when you were speaking there.
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  What a great way to answer that, because honestly, it's like you
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  gave the template. Seek ye first the Kingdom,
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  right. Get in the word.
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  Follow after the word and let everything else fall into place.
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  And I loved what you said about dying to self.
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  You know, we did joke off air, you know, 15 minutes ago about,
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  you know, death boot camp for 15 years on replay and like, hey,
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  like here I am now like I. And it's so true, because we
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  really do have to die to ourselves.
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  And it's not just like one time. It's the Apostle Paul in the New
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  Testament talks about. I wrestle the flesh daily.
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  Yeah, and I lost a lot. I lost that wrestling a lot.
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  Yeah. It wasn't like the string of of
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  like, measurable victories over my flesh.
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  There were. Exactly.
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  There's a old song by Donnie McClurkin.
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  Remember that one? I'm I'm not going to sing it
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  good because I have a cold right now.
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  But it's like, we fall down but we get up for a St. is just a
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  Sinner who fell down but got back up.
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  And that's just the thing about it.
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  Hold on. No, wait.
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  You're telling me you didn't sing good because you have a
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  cold? That was amazing.
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  I was, I'm sure. That was I have a cold I'm not
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  going to sing. I'll sound like a broken plate
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  and opera being played backwards at the same time.
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  It's just not going to be good if I try.
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  But that's just The thing is you have to just keep getting back
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  up. Just because you failed doesn't
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  mean you're a failure. Well, and I think that's the
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  battlefield of the mind. Like a lot of the times, people,
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  you know, the religious spirits and this battle that takes place
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  where. The the accuser of the brethren
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  is shooting fiery hours at most people's minds, saying you're
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  not worth it, look what you did and it's like, yeah, get back up
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  and keep pressing in. You know, I was talking earlier
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  with friend and brother in Christ, and I'm saying to him,
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  it's God who started this good work in US.
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  We'll bring it to completion. So obviously right now is not
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  completion, right? Like there's a process taking
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  place. Like it is taking place and and
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  we are being captured up into this love story.
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  You know that this love story of God and him doing what it is
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  that only he can do, Making a way, paying the price, calling
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  us out of darkness. You know, it's like there's no
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  weapon formed against us that shall prosper, no?
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  No Angel, no demon, no alien, no nothing can snatch us from the
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  hand of him who was loved. And it's like if we were a
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  little bit easier on ourselves. And I'm saying this for a
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  listener out there, like if if you want to know how to go
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  deeper, like Harley said, die to yourself.
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  And when you don't die, like recognize and learn from that.
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  You know the Greek word for training, Guganzo, and it means
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  intense, intermittent training sessions.
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  And like, that's how we should kind of be approaching this.
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  So really, you just lighten my heart by sharing, you know,
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  Carly, the fact that it's like, hey, this is a process and and
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  your whole Sunday family dinner thing, like talking about what's
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  good, Oh my gosh, somebody needs to like literally do like a
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  what's good Sunday and just. Making a thing?
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  Yeah, I'll do a. T-shirt and it's get it out
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  there and and talk. Yeah, there's power in the
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  tongue, you guys. OK, Carly, keep going because I
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  know you have something here. So yeah, the Sunday thing I if I
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  could spread one message. Well, Jesus knows I couldn't
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  narrow it down to one. But I would say this.
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  If you have a group of friends that are believers, get together
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  as often as you can and make it something that you do every
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  however often you do it and share your heart.
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  Be open, be vulnerable, cry, be ugly, be whatever you got to be.
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  You don't have to come with the right answers.
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  You don't have to always know. Many of our meetings we
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  sometimes man sometimes, you know sometimes one of us would
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  be on struggle bus and it would be real and we do it with just
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  US women. The men meet in behind the
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  garage in this like finished part of the garage.
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  So we don't we don't do men and women mix because our needs are
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  different. The way we talk to each other is
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  different. But the men have been meeting
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  for years too. I don't know what they do in
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  there. I don't want to know.
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  But I'll tell you what we do. We're really real with each
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  other and we go through it and it's been life changing.
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  Absolutely life changing and healing too.
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  Especially for the the church hurt people out there.
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  Yeah. You can see how the body is
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  supposed to be. You can find yourself in the
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  midst of other people really seeking the Lord.
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  You can. It's a strange thing, but the
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  way that Jesus talks about oneness, it really plays out
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  when you. Lay down your guard.
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  These are the kind of conversations, Carly, that bring
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  heaven down. These are the kind of
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  conversations where we'd literally are, are it's this is
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  good now. Wow.
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  Yeah, a lot of the times we think.
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  At this big corporate building with all of these people and the
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  lights and the music is going to be the rewarding us intimately
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  and we're going to feel fulfilled there.
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  We're going to feel, listen, I I don't like beating up on the
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  church. I love the church.
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  We have to do a deconstruction in order to put things back the
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  right way so they operate better.
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  It's not like, oh, let's take this apart and just never put it
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  back together again, but. The the intimacy with the Lord
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  and how that can be expressed through bearing each other's
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  burdens, fulfilling the law, this law of love.
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  I mean, there's one way to do it.
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  Love. The greatest of all those
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  things, hope and you know, all these fruits was love.
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  It's love. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And I'll say this about the
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  church. You know, I was real poo poo
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  about the church for a long time and the Lord corrected me one
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  day, he said. You know, I take you judging my
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  bride very seriously, and I could feel him just disapproving
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  of my attitude, not in a you know, now I'm turning my back on
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  you kind of way golly, but just in a corrective, stern, fatherly
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  way. And so I realized that it's just
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  not my my place. Do I like the formulaic 2 fast
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  songs? One slow song or one fast song,
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  2 slow songs, blah blah blah. Same every Sunday, every corner
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  in the entire I don't love it. I don't feel fulfilled in that,
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  but it's his bride and that's his to correct.
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  I will say this though, I think there's at certain points in our
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  walk, you know, there is a place for that predictable pattern.
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  For people who live very unpredictable, chaotic lives.
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  It can be very comforting to come into a place that's the
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  same week after week after week. If you don't have that outside
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  of you need that you need it. Will you grow out of of that
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  formulae thing? Maybe, you know, I I feel like
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  in some ways I did. But you know then I just meet
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  the Lord in my own time and he does what he does with me
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  personally, right. But to be honest with you, and
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  this is something that really hit my heart, that Dan Duvall
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  was talking about a few weeks ago and one of his sermons, I I
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  would have to find it again if you wanted to share it in the
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  notes. But he said a lot of people
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  approach church with this Gimme, Gimme.
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  My name is Jimmy Attitude and I thought, oh Lord, that's me.
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  And that's why I don't go, because I don't get anything
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  from it because it's very much geared towards new believers.
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  And that's fine. God bless that process.
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  I was there too. No shame.
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  None whatsoever. But I was looking at church to
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  fulfill my needs, And the Lord said to me, But I fulfill your
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  needs. And you and I have a dynamic
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  relationship in which if you have a need, you know how to
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  come to me. You know, when I speak to you,
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  so why are you looking down on my church for not fulfilling a
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  need that I'm fulfilling for you?
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  And it really was an issue of correction.
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  And he said what I need you to do now, and this is what I'll
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  present to the, you know, mature believers who've been walking
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  with the Lord and are confident in their ability to hear from
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  him and are producing the fruit of the Spirit.
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  And they're operating in discernment.
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  And there's measurable effect of your walk with him in your life.
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  Go back to the church and be the pillar that those new believers
• 24:19
  need, because it's important. As a new believer, I can
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  remember coming to church and and there was something
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  comforting about seeing the same people there every week,
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  allowing myself to get to know them or for them to get to know
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  me. And even if we weren't buddy,
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  buddy, heart to heart, bosom friends, just seeing those
• 24:39
  people week after week, modeling what it is to walk after the
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  Lord, seeing them cry, you know, in worship or serve or do
• 24:47
  whatever. It let me see down the road a
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  little bit and gave me hope that the chaos of my own life would
• 24:53
  become something that is ordered.
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  And there's a lot of different opportunities nowadays.
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  I know we have this church here in Minnesota.
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  I some of my more, you know, people who have been walking
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  with the Lord for a while go to and they just do lengthy worship
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  sets. Like like church is just one
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  long worship set. Which sounds amazing, right?
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  Like we can read the word and do all this stuff.
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  Wouldn't it be nice to just go have some like corporate worship
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  every week and just forget the sermon part?
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  Because when you're in worship, often times you'll hear from the
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  Lord for yourself and that's something you've been struggling
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  with. Will lift or your heart will
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  change a little bit, or just being in in that atmosphere.
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  It's helpful. Well, you know, if you can sit
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  in a sauna or steam room and come out feeling rejuvenated,
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  how much more? The presence of the Lord.
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  Amen. Yeah.
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  What if we had corporate worship like that?
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  A place to weep and cry and just hit the floor?
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  You know what I mean? And And what if some of the more
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  teaching experiences were led by the Spirit?
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  You know where the diversity of gifts are in operation on a
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  smaller scale. But yet still coming together a
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  meeting. I think that that's amazing.
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  I feel very led to read something that I wrote that that
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  has to do with directly what you were just talking about.
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  It's a poem, but it's more than that.
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  And I call it bodies and the idea with it before I start
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  reading it. Here Carly is, it starts out
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  talking about my body, right? And then there there's a lot of
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  puns, and it ends up talking about.
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  The body of Christ. So there's kind of interesting
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  shift that takes place. But bear with me here.
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  I'm going to read this to you and the audience quit.
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  I'm a nobody living in a body. I've seen somebody lose their
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  body. The trauma goes deep.
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  I swear parts of my body don't work like a normal body.
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  Much of the time. I'm in despair.
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  I'm not normal to everybody. Some mock, and they stare.
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  Some have abused my body. I wonder, does anybody care?
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  I've heard of the one who created my body in my mother's
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  womb, wonderfully and fearfully created, embodying his design
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  and truth. I ponder on this, fearful that I
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  may never really know the length and the depth, the breadth and
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  the height. As my body shakes and trembles
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  during the darkest times of night, I wait to tell everybody
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  about somebody who covers with his body.
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  His name is Christ. He says he has a body of
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  believers, a rare remnant, a body that cares.
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  I wonder how to help a body that's fearful and so scared, he
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  tells me be the body and never compare.
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  Each member makes the body and of this I deeply care.
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  Continue to love my body. Becoming nobody for love is
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  rare. It covers many sins.
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  I see you, son, and I care. And if they come to kill your
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  body, being you represent my body.
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  Remember my body in despair, broken and beaten, crucified.
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  I gave my body for love. It's all a part of the plan, my
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  son. Stay focused on what's above.
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  I'll be with you and everybody till the end of the age, I
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  swear. Waiting with a heavenly body and
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  nothing you now know could compare.
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  Wow. Amen.
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  Wow, that's profound. And yeah, I just really felt I
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  did not plan on that. Seriously, it's just you were
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  talking and I just felt like the OK, like, you know what?
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  Read this one. This is going to hit somebody.
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  Like, it hit me when I wrote it in tears.
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  And so, hopefully, if you're out there and that poem affected
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  you, write me an e-mail, Write a review, let me know, reach out
• 28:52
  to me and give me a confirmation, whoever you are.
• 28:54
  Listener. But Carly, thank you for
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  allowing me to share that with you as well.
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  Hopefully that was made sense. It made a lot of sense and it
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  actually made me think about my own struggles with, you know,
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  the Lord calls our body, the temple.
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  I was really struggling with this body.
• 29:15
  Now I'm 43 and it's just not what it was.
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  And I know there there comes, there came a serious amount of
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  lamentation, let's put it that way over this, you know, just
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  like God, why and And and the Lord said, well, your body is my
• 29:34
  temple. And I thought, Dang, my spirit
• 29:37
  should be your temple. Even my soul might make a better
• 29:40
  temple, but my body. And then my friend said to me,
• 29:45
  how do we act in a place that we believe is holy?
• 29:50
  And the images that come to mind is your reverent you, your heart
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  is open, You take in the beauty, you respect it, You speak well
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  of it. And I don't do that for my body.
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  And I would venture a guess that a lot of people don't do that
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  for their body. And then the Lord said to me, so
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  how are you moving around in your body?
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  And I said not very well. I feel like a lot of the times I
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  condemn my body for not reaching some ideal.
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  Even if that falls short of, you know, society's ideal.
• 30:29
  I'm not going that far that's that's that's that's a different
• 30:32
  level. But so well your body deserves
• 30:38
  love too. And I could I, when it was so
• 30:43
  hard to conceptualize, loving my body for its own sake and not so
• 30:48
  that I can. Hopefully that love will produce
• 30:51
  something out of it that I like aesthetically.
• 30:54
  Or maybe I won't be so tired and maybe I won't need coffee.
• 30:58
  Or maybe, you know, this or that will be different.
• 31:01
  Like, OK, I love my body because that way it'll look better.
• 31:04
  This was my attitude about it. And I'm like, that's not love
• 31:08
  though. And the Lord and I wrestled with
• 31:09
  this thing back and forth, back and forth.
• 31:13
  And there's this book. There's two books I highly
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  recommend. Grab your pencil if y'all are
• 31:20
  taking notes because these books are so helpful.
• 31:23
  One is called The Body Keeps the Score and the other is called It
• 31:26
  Didn't Start with You. They're on Audible.
• 31:28
  So if you don't like to read physical books, they're on
• 31:31
  Audible. And they're all about
• 31:34
  transgenerational epidemiology. And I'm not an expert, I can
• 31:37
  just say words with multiple syllables.
• 31:40
  Basically what it is is it's about cellular memory and how
• 31:45
  the memory of people that live before us in our genetic line
• 31:49
  live in our cellular memory. So we often think of our
• 31:55
  cellular memory as being like the color of our eyes, our
• 31:58
  heights, our predisposition to liking math or not liking
• 32:02
  chocolate, whatever. But it also comes down to
• 32:06
  traumatic events and really exciting events they live.
• 32:10
  That memory of those things lives in our body, which made me
• 32:14
  start to think about how many things are affecting my body
• 32:18
  that really didn't start with me.
• 32:22
  You know, like how many? Like, I don't have a plethora of
• 32:25
  chronic conditions, but I have some things that are just not
• 32:28
  that great. And and so did my mother, and so
• 32:32
  did my grandmother. But really, it's all linked to
• 32:35
  trauma that happened in generational lines that keeps
• 32:38
  manifesting in the same way. And there has to be a way to
• 32:43
  metabolize these traumas out of our body.
• 32:47
  And so I'm just kind of rehearsing this conversation I
• 32:50
  had with the Lord over several weeks.
• 32:53
  And the the Lord pointed out to me is like, you accept my glory
• 32:59
  as being made manifest in your spirit because you understand
• 33:03
  that your spirit is seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
• 33:07
  Jesus, etcetera, etcetera. There's other scriptures, but
• 33:09
  that's just the one I always land on you.
• 33:12
  You have come to accept your soul, and you're working towards
• 33:16
  love for your soul and your heart, and that's getting
• 33:19
  better. But do you realize Your body is
• 33:22
  a witness to the glory of the Lord and your spirit?
• 33:25
  Your body is a witness to you, loving and healing your soul and
• 33:28
  your heart. And yet your body is constantly
• 33:31
  the recipient of hate mail from you.
• 33:34
  Oh my God. And how does that affect your
• 33:39
  body? Why?
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  Because nothing heals in an environment of rejection and
• 33:43
  shame. Nothing.
• 33:44
  Nothing. Including your body.
• 33:49
  And just think about the attitude of our hearts towards
• 33:51
  our bodies and and how many of those attitudes are manifesting
• 33:57
  as chains that we're asking the Lord to take off.
• 33:59
  But really they're only there because we persist in this self
• 34:03
  degradation of our body. Wow, interesting.
• 34:12
  We have to love our body because it's the temple.
• 34:15
  So I started doing all these hikes this summer and some of
• 34:19
  those stories you heard but and the Lord just started pointing
• 34:26
  out to me. Aren't you thankful that you can
• 34:28
  do these things like your body's working, Aren't you glad?
• 34:31
  And I'm like, yeah, I am glad. I get to do things that I enjoy.
• 34:35
  Is it perfect? And my feet hurt after 8 miles.
• 34:37
  Yes, they do. Are there things that.
• 34:40
  But it doesn't matter because I can still do my assignment with
• 34:43
  the body that I have as it is, and for that I love it.
• 34:51
  It's amazing. It's really deep and I love
• 34:55
  these kind of conversations. And This is why I don't
• 35:01
  necessarily like having a plan. Because you you're dropping some
• 35:06
  bombs. This this is supernatural.
• 35:10
  OK you guys, it's not always a craft in the sky or the demons
• 35:13
  or spiritual mapping. Like we have breath in our
• 35:17
  lungs, we have a relationship and and we're growing and
• 35:21
  understanding and learning like like that is supernatural.
• 35:26
  That's amazing. Like, yeah, you know, the Lord
• 35:30
  said to me many years ago. He said to me, my most
• 35:33
  overlooked miracle that I do every day, is when somebody
• 35:39
  chooses to love somebody else or you choose to love yourself.
• 35:44
  Oh my gosh, it's a miracle. So on Thursdays, we've been
• 35:48
  doing this like men's prayer call, right?
• 35:51
  And and we're calling in and and it's sometimes we're just
• 35:54
  praying, sometimes we're venting to each other and we had some
• 35:58
  really interesting stuff happen. Oh yeah.
• 36:02
  I'm not going to go into details on that, but super, super cool
• 36:06
  stuff happened. And I was saying to the guys
• 36:09
  last week, everybody is looking for this big miracle or they
• 36:13
  want to be healed or you know, they want $1,000,000 and they
• 36:17
  don't want to have to work it like whatever.
• 36:18
  Everyone's looking for something.
• 36:20
  But what about the wake up call and the reality to the biggest
• 36:24
  miracle you may see? Not ever, but like that you
• 36:28
  could recognize right now. Is God changing the hearts of
• 36:34
  men and women? Yeah.
• 36:36
  Bringing love out of dry bones. Let's just face it, man.
• 36:41
  Dry bones and and but God. And it's like, that's a miracle
• 36:46
  because the pill doesn't do it. The bottle doesn't do it.
• 36:50
  Just talking with people alone doesn't do it.
• 36:54
  I mean, OK, is it healthy to have good communication?
• 36:56
  And and maybe if you need to get some counseling, Absolutely.
• 36:59
  Bible says there's safety and wise counsel.
• 37:02
  The pill? No, just skip the pill.
• 37:05
  Let let your food be your medicine, eat, eat a little bit
• 37:07
  healthier. But but God is growing something
• 37:13
  new inside of you. And to just recognize that
• 37:15
  that's a miracle. Like it's super cool what
• 37:18
  they're uncovering in Babylon or Egypt right now or, you know, in
• 37:21
  Israel, they're like, oh, there's this new archaeological
• 37:24
  dig and they found something and I love that stuff.
• 37:27
  Not downplaying that at all, but making it more personal like.
• 37:32
  I want to see the ripple effect go out from this part three,
• 37:35
  Carly, where people, you know, start to become a little bit
• 37:38
  more vulnerable. There's a keyword that that
• 37:40
  there was so much wisdom that God gave you to share.
• 37:43
  The fact that there's power and vulnerability and really God's
• 37:49
  love working in and through US, his he's the author and footage
• 37:54
  of our faith. We're working these things out
• 37:56
  and honestly. And seeing our hearts alone
• 38:02
  change. Do an evaluation, you guys.
• 38:05
  Yeah. Jeez, Pray.
• 38:06
  And just be like, don't forget where you came from.
• 38:09
  Like, I need to really do this again.
• 38:11
  And you know, I kind of have been putting it on the back
• 38:13
  burner, but just like, really looking it over and being like,
• 38:18
  God, you've brought me from that to here.
• 38:22
  Thank God. Keep swelling up my heart.
• 38:24
  Lord, do not allow my heart to turn.
• 38:28
  Cold and hard Again, you know, don't let love grow cold, not in
• 38:31
  this household, as as we wind into this age that people have
• 38:36
  so much to say about this time slot we're living in a million
• 38:39
  messages and signals. But God be with me and and help
• 38:44
  me to love when I don't know how to show me that it's so.
• 38:49
  The revelation of love is if we don't got that, we've missed it
• 38:53
  all. Carly, we missed it all.
• 38:55
  Yeah, yeah, we have. We really have.
• 38:58
  And this last advance weekend in Houston was pressed upon me so
• 39:02
  intensely. His love, it's really the only
• 39:05
  thing that matters. Us and his love, and his love
• 39:10
  for us and our love for each other, because we can do
• 39:13
  everything else amazingly perfect.
• 39:16
  We can prophecy perfectly. But if we don't have love for
• 39:21
  each other and for the Lord, what is it going to avail?
• 39:26
  It's his love that caused him to sacrifice his son.
• 39:29
  It's his love for us that drew us.
• 39:31
  The goodness of God leads men to repentance.
• 39:34
  And then I was. It's not his chastisement.
• 39:38
  It's not oh, you're going to go to hell and burn forever.
• 39:40
  It's his love that draws us his goodness.
• 39:45
  Think about that. Think about how the meek inherit
• 39:48
  the earth. That's what it says.
• 39:49
  Tell me where. I can't remember.
• 39:51
  But it says the meek shall inherit the earth.
• 39:54
  There's this sermon on the mount Sermon on the mount.
• 39:56
  Perfect. So I've often wondered at that
• 39:59
  because I'm like, I feel like the aggressive inherit the
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  earth. I'm like the meek Jesus, have
• 40:07
  you met meek people? Because I don't know how that
• 40:11
  for years I pondered this was in my back pocket.
• 40:13
  I took it out and looked at it regularly and said I still don't
• 40:15
  understand it. But this last weekend he hit me
• 40:19
  with it. He said.
• 40:20
  When you are meek. You honor people above yourself.
• 40:24
  He didn't say this, but I'm going to add it for the
• 40:26
  listener's sake. That doesn't mean you're a
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  doormat and you let people walk all over you and you have no
• 40:32
  boundaries and you're just a codependent, you know, lost soul
• 40:35
  who has no sense of self. There's no one I'm talking
• 40:38
  about. Look up the word meek.
• 40:39
  It'll help you. But he says, when you're meek,
• 40:42
  you honor people above yourself. You say, you know what, I'm
• 40:45
  going to be quiet and listen to your story.
• 40:47
  You say, wow, I really see the treasure.
• 40:50
  God is inside of you, and and I honor you for who you are and
• 40:56
  who He is in you. You intentionally allow others
• 41:00
  to be without insisting upon the revelation of you in the moment.
• 41:08
  Let it be about somebody else. And now imagine if we lived our
• 41:12
  lives like this. I honor you.
• 41:15
  You honor me. I honor my husband.
• 41:17
  You honor your wife. We honor our brothers, our
• 41:19
  sisters, our cousins, the lady in the grocery store, the person
• 41:22
  who cuts you off. And now you're sitting at the
• 41:24
  red light with them, awkwardly trying not to make eye contact.
• 41:27
  What if what if, in these moments, we chose to honor one
• 41:33
  another? What would that look like?
• 41:36
  I'll. I have an idea.
• 41:38
  It would make no room for division.
• 41:42
  There would be no room for division, because how could the
• 41:44
  enemy come and be like, you should hate that rich person,
• 41:47
  you should hate that white person, you should hate that
• 41:49
  black person, you should hate that drug addict.
• 41:51
  You should 'cause you'd be like what that person was made in the
• 41:55
  image and likeness of God, just like me.
• 41:57
  There are no big shots in the Kingdom That the, the, the
• 42:01
  fentanyl addict in the bent on the street is just as loved by
• 42:06
  Christ as I am, just as loved. And you know, the thing about
• 42:11
  his love is that he chases after us.
• 42:16
  We have so many worship songs about I love you, Lord, come
• 42:18
  near me, Lord, I just want to be with you, Lord God said to me
• 42:21
  the other day, I sing those songs over you, and not just me
• 42:25
  personally, but you and you and you and you too.
• 42:29
  He sings those songs over us, 'cause he longs for us.
• 42:32
  That's what love does. It longs to be connected to to
• 42:35
  know, to walk with, to do life with, to be with, even in the
• 42:39
  hard times. And so the meek shall inherit
• 42:44
  the earth, because when we honour one another, we allow for
• 42:47
  the manifestation of who that person really is.
• 42:51
  And in the cleansing of hearts, in this way, in the love and the
• 42:55
  honouring and the meekness of life, people will come alive,
• 43:00
  unity will be built. And it makes me think of
• 43:03
  Ephesians 412 through 13. This is the NIV version, which I
• 43:08
  don't love, but it's what I have pulled up right now.
• 43:10
  It says to equip his people. This is after he talks about
• 43:13
  prophets, evangelists, teachers, you know, whatever.
• 43:19
  Right after that part says to equip the people for the works
• 43:22
  of service so that the body of Christ may be built up until we
• 43:30
  all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of
• 43:37
  God who became mature, attaining to the whole measure of the
• 43:43
  stature of Christ. This is what the body is
• 43:46
  supposed to be. We're going to keep doing this
• 43:48
  generation after generation after generation, until we
• 43:52
  attain the whole measure of the stature of Christ.
• 43:55
  Christ revealed in us the hope of glory and how much works.
• 44:01
  So we often think about. I'm going to go off a little
• 44:03
  left here so bear with me. But I think about how often we
• 44:06
  look for the end times, symbols, signals as being, oh, in the
• 44:12
  days of Noah, you know the giants and the Sasquatch and all
• 44:15
  these crazy things are happening.
• 44:16
  Wars and rumors of war, you said.
• 44:17
  Sasquatch. No, I'm sorry.
• 44:22
  Keep going. And so we think about looking
• 44:27
  for these types of signs, right? Did the rumors of war blah blah
• 44:30
  blah, famine. It's been happening for the
• 44:32
  entire Gen. forever, folks. It's been happening for
• 44:36
  literally ever. If it's not happening in your
• 44:38
  country, it's happening somewhere.
• 44:39
  I don't know that it's a really great signal to look for because
• 44:44
  it's been happening. But then I think about something
• 44:47
  like Ephesians 412 through 13 and I'm like, OK, or Isaiah 60
• 44:53
  and I'm like when the glory of the Lord arises and shines upon
• 44:57
  us and kings from all these nations come to bow down before
• 45:00
  us to serve us because his he's revealed in us now That will be
• 45:05
  a sign nobody will be able to get confused about, yeah?
• 45:08
  About it, right? Or until we are perfected into
• 45:13
  the full revelation of Christ, attaining to it the unity, the
• 45:18
  the John 17. What Jesus prayed for.
• 45:20
  That they would be one as we are one.
• 45:22
  This is this, this That's my heart cry, my prayer.
• 45:27
  Oh Lord, I just want to know that oneness, and it started out
• 45:31
  as me being. I just want to know that oneness
• 45:33
  it within myself because of, you know, dissociative identity
• 45:37
  issues. And then coming into just
• 45:40
  wanting to be at peace in my body and then realizing it's
• 45:43
  even goes beyond that. I want the oneness of the body.
• 45:46
  I want the oneness of the body with this Father and the Son and
• 45:49
  the Holy Spirit, and that's the magnitude he was praying for.
• 45:52
  And if anybody's prayers getting answered around here, it's
• 45:55
  definitely Jesus's prayer. OK, So we got to look for it.
• 46:00
  We have to expect it to be. And as unattainable as it's
• 46:04
  something like Ephesians 1213 sounds, we're going to continue
• 46:09
  until the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.
• 46:12
  But he's doing it, though. He's doing it.
• 46:18
  He's doing it in in you and in me and in millions and millions
• 46:22
  of people all over the world. He's bringing about that oneness
• 46:25
  in small pockets because I don't think it's about the stages
• 46:29
  anymore. I don't think it's about the big
• 46:30
  shots in the Kingdom anymore. I think it's about the hearts of
• 46:34
  individuals coming together in love and honor and respect and
• 46:38
  vulnerability. And he can build on something
• 46:40
  like that where nobody's getting the spotlight except for him.
• 46:45
  And you talk to a lot of people, and I would, I would venture a
• 46:51
  guess that you're hearing this ripple through a little bit more
• 46:55
  and more. Like, man, we're just really
• 46:59
  buckling down and getting to know Christ for ourselves.
• 47:03
  Yeah, and not depending on the idol that churchianity has
• 47:07
  become. Yeah, there's a lot of rabbit
• 47:11
  trails. They all came together, that's
• 47:15
  for sure. I do see this ripple effect and
• 47:20
  and this is what's changing for me.
• 47:23
  It's like, you know, I started this podcast because no one else
• 47:29
  really, other than like Canary Cry Radio that I was aware of
• 47:33
  was talking about these strange things and and introducing some
• 47:37
  humor and just going, you know, diving into the weird.
• 47:39
  But at the time I remember like. God, what do I do with all these
• 47:44
  weird topics? And I would feel, well, just be
• 47:46
  patient, you know, just be like it's in the word.
• 47:50
  I'm going to give you Rhema and strength and and meekness,
• 47:54
  reserved power for all of this. That's ahead and and now you
• 47:58
  know years and years and years gone by Carly and I just
• 48:00
  realized like, that's cool to have an answer in season now to
• 48:05
  season. And believe me, I will be doing
• 48:07
  another Bigfoot episode somewhere down the road.
• 48:10
  It's not planned, but it's just. I'm not like saying, oh get rid
• 48:14
  of all this weird stuff, but that stuff shouldn't come before
• 48:22
  us, really, like slowing down and being like, Lord, take me
• 48:28
  deeper, heal this part of me that I've hidden from you, and
• 48:31
  just that our personal relationship and encouraging
• 48:35
  each other to go there and giving it a space because.
• 48:40
  We're talking about it and encouraging other people because
• 48:44
  a lot of the times people will reserve their thoughts and
• 48:49
  emotions because no one around them are worthy of bouncing
• 48:53
  those thoughts, emotions and ideas off of you.
• 48:56
  You said a key thing a few minutes ago about hey, check out
• 49:00
  your circle. You know, get some real men and
• 49:04
  women of God in your life. You know, have have those kind
• 49:08
  of relationships where they sharpen you and bring out the
• 49:11
  best in you because they're going to cry with you, they're
• 49:14
  going to laugh with you, they're going to help you carry the
• 49:16
  heavy stuff. And then sometimes you get to
• 49:18
  throw your hands behind your head and throw your feet up and
• 49:21
  just sing a worship song by the campfire and enjoy an evening
• 49:24
  like you need people to do life with.
• 49:26
  Yeah, for sure. And.
• 49:29
  It's it makes everything more personal now.
• 49:33
  It takes the hit Christian, you know, music artist or rapper or
• 49:38
  whatever cool pastor has this large following.
• 49:40
  It takes them out of the scenario of like someone else
• 49:44
  nursing you and and rocking you along and it puts the reality of
• 49:52
  this temporary life back into well, the place it should be.
• 49:58
  What? Which is?
• 49:59
  Us to decide. God, I want to go deeper with
• 50:03
  you. And some people don't decide
• 50:05
  that. Some people go, That's crazy.
• 50:06
  Rodney sounds like he's going to go hug a tree or something like
• 50:10
  that. Whatever, I highly recommend
• 50:12
  hugging trees. I heard it's actually like, not
• 50:15
  a bad thing to do. Like there's a lot of energy.
• 50:17
  OK, we're not going to get on the road.
• 50:19
  Try. But I digress.
• 50:21
  Let's go here. Let me let me propose.
• 50:23
  This OK, OK so oneness is inclusive but not as the world
• 50:32
  has sold inclusivity which is not inclusive at all but oneness
• 50:37
  is it is inclusive. There's there this is when you
• 50:42
  were talking this is what the Lord said to me is there not
• 50:45
  room in my body for that too. And as you were listing things,
• 50:49
  you know, like, oh, the woo, woo, you know, the Sasquatch
• 50:53
  conversations, the the weird encounters with God and
• 50:58
  whatever, there's there's room in the body of Christ for all of
• 51:04
  these conversations. He's the creator of everything
• 51:09
  made OK. So if you're going to talk about
• 51:17
  the weird, there's still room in the body to talk to that can be
• 51:22
  in the body. And we still talk about the
• 51:24
  basic stuff like you got to spend time in the word.
• 51:28
  It's not mutually exclusive, you see.
• 51:30
  So we're all part of it. So if your interests are are
• 51:35
  more in the woo woo, God bless you.
• 51:38
  Journey with the Lord. Filter it through the Bible.
• 51:41
  Live in that realm of revelation.
• 51:43
  Do it, be it. Because the more you manifest
• 51:46
  who you are, the more free we all become.
• 51:50
  Because we're one, We're one. Please go.
• 51:55
  Go reveal Christ in your corner of the world.
• 51:59
  Go be who He made you to be. Flesh out the things you're
• 52:02
  interested in with Him. Do it.
• 52:05
  Heal. Become rest.
• 52:09
  Get up. Cry.
• 52:10
  Be honest. Be vulnerable.
• 52:12
  Honor. Rejoice.
• 52:14
  Have humor, all those things. It affects not just you, It
• 52:19
  affects all of us. The authenticity of who He made
• 52:22
  you to be manifests day in and day out.
• 52:25
  It affects the whole body. Just like if I can't utilize my
• 52:30
  pinky finger, it affects my whole hand.
• 52:32
  If I stub my toe, it affects my whole body.
• 52:35
  But because we are limited in our understanding, we we filter
• 52:39
  everything through a three-dimensional paradigm.
• 52:42
  It's hard to conceptualize the fact that when Rod's heart heals
• 52:47
  from the things he's been sharing in his recent podcasts,
• 52:51
  when he heals from those things, it affects me too.
• 52:56
  It affects other people too, because we are one body in
• 53:00
  Christ. And folks, we're going to keep
• 53:02
  continuing around and around and around till we come to the unity
• 53:05
  of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God unto the
• 53:08
  perfect man and to the measure of the stature of the fullness
• 53:11
  of Christ, So become the fullness of Christ.
• 53:16
  Whatever that looks like for you, it doesn't matter.
• 53:19
  It's not mine to judge. You journey with the Lord into.
• 53:22
  Whatever you got a journey into the Lord with.
• 53:24
  It's way better to do it with Him honestly and consistently.
• 53:31
  Diligence is the key. Whatever you're doing, just keep
• 53:34
  doing. Just keep being diligent with
• 53:36
  the Lord. Do it, do it, do it.
• 53:38
  He asks you to make a shift, Make a shift.
• 53:41
  But if he If you think the Lord's ask you to make a shift
• 53:43
  every 30 seconds, you're dealing with confusion.
• 53:45
  And I rebuke it in Jesus name. But.
• 53:49
  Yeah. That's that's epic and wow it's
• 53:55
  like this is, this is uncharted territory in so many ways
• 53:59
  because it really hasn't been demonstrated for us, right.
• 54:03
  Like and it it's exciting, it's like an adventure.
• 54:08
  But it's also it, didn't it? It we have to bring.
• 54:18
  All of it out that needs to come out and we have to get rid of
• 54:22
  what shouldn't be there, empty and clear up some space and it's
• 54:27
  just so interesting. I like the balance.
• 54:31
  Like there really is no parameters on this podcast.
• 54:36
  Like, I've always kind of been tugged by the spirit.
• 54:39
  Like in a lot of ways I'm just capturing my growth journey and
• 54:43
  and going these places and and dealing with this stuff because.
• 54:46
  It's important to me. Well, thankfully it's important
• 54:49
  to some other people too. Yeah.
• 54:53
  And I think, you know, as I listen to your podcast and I do,
• 54:56
  I go back and I I listen to it weekly and I really come out
• 54:59
  with new stuff. And I think to myself, what Rod
• 55:03
  is really doing is looking at the fullness of of life, be it
• 55:09
  the simple things or the mysteries through the lens of
• 55:13
  Christ and just having honest conversations about it.
• 55:16
  And so because he is the creator of all the things and all the
• 55:21
  things that exist exist because of him and in him we live and
• 55:24
  move and have a bring our being that that's a wide net, that's a
• 55:31
  wide net. So how do you narrow it down to
• 55:33
  one thing, right? But I think the one, the one
• 55:36
  thing that you bring to the table consistently is you're
• 55:39
  looking through the lens of Christ to see what he has to say
• 55:45
  about any given topic while honoring the vessels through
• 55:49
  which he's speaking. And that's a really important
• 55:54
  role to play. Because when I hear your heart,
• 55:58
  when I hear someone else's heart, when I hear what the Lord
• 56:01
  is saying to this person, the next person, that person's
• 56:06
  aspects of his being are being made manifest.
• 56:10
  They're being revealed right there in front of me.
• 56:14
  What greater honor could the Lord bestow upon me than to hear
• 56:20
  what he is doing in someone else's life?
• 56:23
  There's no greater honor in my book, no greater honor.
• 56:29
  And even if it's the beginning of Christianity, new Christian
• 56:32
  stuff may like people when they first get that he lives in them
• 56:38
  and they're excited about that man.
• 56:42
  What a beautiful thing to behold and witness and just to be in
• 56:47
  that moment with people. And I think you do that really
• 56:50
  well. I I honestly do.
• 56:55
  Wow, that's really humbling. I I think you just wrapped up
• 57:00
  like what I'm doing. I don't.
• 57:01
  I don't know what I'm doing this time.
• 57:03
  I'd like to hear you say it. I'm like.
• 57:06
  Like, I'm going to freaking cry over here, man.
• 57:08
  Like, is that really what's happening?
• 57:09
  Like, that's what, Yeah, I think so.
• 57:11
  That's how it sounds to me. That's what that's the thread.
• 57:15
  That's the thread is you listen to what the Lord is doing
• 57:17
  through other people and and you're honoring their story and
• 57:21
  and really they're just revealing Christ as they
• 57:23
  understand him. And yeah, awesome.
• 57:28
  It's amazing. I I never really thought of it
• 57:31
  like that. That's, well, I mean, really,
• 57:33
  that's what we're supposed to do.
• 57:36
  Like in a nutshell, that's kind of what we're supposed to do in
• 57:40
  every area of life. But I've failed so bad in other
• 57:43
  areas. I'm like, Lord, don't let me get
• 57:46
  this wrong, you know, and it's like this constant battle.
• 57:49
  It is like we talked about earlier about this wrestling the
• 57:52
  flesh and learning to not allow that enemy to remind you of of
• 57:58
  what's in the past and moving on to what's better and.
• 58:03
  And this podcast is like a safe place for me.
• 58:05
  Like, even though, like, people listen.
• 58:07
  Like, I don't know, like all over the place.
• 58:09
  Like they listen, but like when I'm interviewing somebody, it's
• 58:12
  just it's me and that other person, you.
• 58:16
  Know and I'm trying to take on the mind of Christ, you know I'm
• 58:20
  trying to take capture this these thoughts and these ideas
• 58:26
  that that there are million messages and signals causing
• 58:28
  confusion and chaos. Obviously that's been like the
• 58:30
  the ground premises of the show since.
• 58:33
  You know back in 2019 in development is like all of these
• 58:36
  stuff going on. Let's take this journey together
• 58:38
  and discovering truth, right. But what it morphs into over
• 58:43
  time. Sometimes I don't even see it
• 58:47
  and it's just humbling. It really is really is cool.
• 58:51
  Thank you so much for that feedback and just sharing that
• 58:54
  and and it's so cool to you know, some people are too cool.
• 58:59
  I guess to listen to the podcast that come on but like I love if
• 59:02
  somebody listens and then comes on because it's like you you
• 59:07
  kind of get who I am and we can kind of flow and just it's it's
• 59:10
  always a good thing and well I don't let me hit you with a
• 59:15
  couple questions and let's just kind of transition into a a few
• 59:19
  things that I had in mind because I really want to know
• 59:23
  what your thoughts are on. You know, we we had prayed
• 59:27
  earlier and we talked a little bit about the the seven spirits
• 59:32
  that revelation talks about. Can we just do a recap on that
• 59:36
  real quick. I mean this came up on a round
• 59:38
  table on fringe radio network with a bunch of other people
• 59:42
  that I did a few weeks ago and one of the gentlemen was saying
• 59:46
  like, yeah, we don't talk about the Holy Spirit enough in, you
• 59:50
  know, these these church conversations or podcast
• 59:53
  conversations and. If we do, it doesn't get much
• 59:59
  weirder than when Revelation talks about these seven spirits
• 1:00:02
  of God. So, I mean, I'm there, I have it
• 1:00:05
  pulled up. But but let's just talk about
• 1:00:08
  that really quick. I mean it's What is your mind
• 1:00:11
  doing? God, the Spirit of the Lord, the
• 1:00:13
  Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of
• 1:00:15
  counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and the fear of the
• 1:00:19
  Lord. It's a mystery.
• 1:00:24
  It's a mystery to me. I can't say that I have any
• 1:00:27
  super duper insight on these. I've OK this, OK, let me just
• 1:00:37
  put it like this. I don't know how this is going
• 1:00:40
  to land, but this, this is what's coming up.
• 1:00:42
  So each one of these spirits of the Lord are they are realms of
• 1:00:50
  encounter. They're aspects of his
• 1:00:54
  manifestation. So the spirit of the Lord, the
• 1:00:59
  spirit of wisdom, well, wisdom is easy to find in the Bible
• 1:01:02
  because like the beginning of Proverbs talks about wisdom.
• 1:01:06
  You could just, that's, I don't want to say easy, like no big
• 1:01:09
  deal. You know, John, the book of John
• 1:01:12
  says wisdom was there in the beginning.
• 1:01:15
  And so that's obviously super deep, right.
• 1:01:16
  But like it's a little easier to find in scripture and
• 1:01:20
  understanding. I think that's original
• 1:01:22
  language, for that word is Shema.
• 1:01:25
  But it's like I often approach these things like the spirit of
• 1:01:30
  the Lord is a realm of encounter.
• 1:01:32
  Lord, like in prayer, I will say, I will just ask because God
• 1:01:37
  is an open door. He's like, come unto me, come,
• 1:01:40
  come, come, come, come, come. I don't have any shut doors.
• 1:01:43
  Come on. Come, we'll meet.
• 1:01:44
  We'll talk, We'll Sup. We'll cry, we'll laugh.
• 1:01:47
  Right. He He doesn't have a lock on his
• 1:01:50
  bedroom door. If you will.
• 1:01:51
  So when I enter prayer, sometimes I'll just say, Lord, I
• 1:01:55
  want to meet with the Spirit of the Lord.
• 1:01:57
  I want to meet with the Spirit of wisdom.
• 1:01:59
  I want to meet with the Spirit of understanding, the Spirit of
• 1:02:02
  counsel, the Spirit of might, the Spirit of knowledge, the
• 1:02:05
  fear of the Lord. And the way that this will go
• 1:02:10
  for me personally is I'll try to find where the presence of the
• 1:02:15
  Lord is by kind of feeling around in the spirit.
• 1:02:20
  So I like pray in tongues for a while.
• 1:02:22
  A lot of times I walk around when I pray because I got to
• 1:02:25
  keep it moving, folks. I don't sit Stillwell, so that
• 1:02:28
  helps me. Or I'll put on worship songs.
• 1:02:31
  Like I really like Jesus image. There's a lady out of Nigeria
• 1:02:34
  called Victoria Ornez that I just put on and like if I feel
• 1:02:39
  the spirit kind of moving, then I stay in that place.
• 1:02:42
  Or sometimes I'll just sit down in the word and like I'll be on
• 1:02:46
  Psalm 18 for, like months, because that's where I'm finding
• 1:02:51
  him. And then when I find where His
• 1:02:54
  presence is, I just ask the Spirit of the Lord to come in
• 1:03:00
  and Sup with me. Or I'll ask the Spirit of wisdom
• 1:03:03
  to come in and Sup with me. And there there's something
• 1:03:08
  discernible in the encounter with the Lord that shifts.
• 1:03:11
  It's still the Lord, but it like, takes on a certain flavor,
• 1:03:15
  if you will, or it's not. It's very nuanced for my for
• 1:03:21
  maybe. For other people it's not.
• 1:03:22
  But it's. It's nuanced.
• 1:03:23
  It's like. And then the way that he speaks
• 1:03:28
  is kind of tuned to the frequency of wisdom or tuned to
• 1:03:36
  the frequency of counsel or might or the fear of the Lord.
• 1:03:40
  And a lot of times, like when I encounter the fear of the Lord,
• 1:03:43
  for example, there's a lot of repentance, like deep
• 1:03:47
  repentance, not in the condemnation kind of repentance,
• 1:03:51
  but in the like, yeah, I'm holding that in my heart.
• 1:03:53
  Lord, help me, help me, you know.
• 1:03:57
  And there's often tears that come with that.
• 1:03:59
  But every aspect of the Lord, every manifestation that he
• 1:04:02
  gives us as a, as an example in Scripture, is a place to meet
• 1:04:09
  him at in prayer. And so that's how I approach the
• 1:04:13
  seven spirits of the Lord. I just want to share a testimony
• 1:04:18
  about that really quick and then whatever your other questions
• 1:04:21
  are, we'll roll. But I had a vision a few back in
• 1:04:25
  April, and I was standing before the Lamb of God slain, and often
• 1:04:32
  in my imagination pictured the Lamb slain as just a passed out
• 1:04:37
  lamb sleeping. Very cute, very tidy, not messy
• 1:04:40
  at all, right? But this encounter was not my
• 1:04:43
  imagination, so it looked very different.
• 1:04:45
  And it was the Lamb of God, brutalized like shredded,
• 1:04:52
  bloody, terrible, terrible mess, tragic.
• 1:04:59
  And I looked, and my heart was just breaking inside of me.
• 1:05:04
  Because I'm like, this is so much worse than I thought.
• 1:05:08
  Rod. I looked down at my hand in this
• 1:05:11
  vision, and I saw that I was holding the cat in nine tails.
• 1:05:16
  And something rose up inside of me.
• 1:05:18
  This memory this I have, there's a few deep regrets in my life.
• 1:05:23
  And one of them rose up and came to the front of my mind and I
• 1:05:28
  felt my hand lift up. And as I was holding this
• 1:05:33
  thought in the front of my mind and just feeling the sorrow and
• 1:05:36
  the pain and the regret. And like the hurt I caused other
• 1:05:40
  people, my hand raised up with the cat of nine tails and I
• 1:05:45
  lashed at the lamb and it was bloody and it got all over me.
• 1:05:53
  And right behind that another thought rose up.
• 1:05:55
  Pain, sorrow, grief. Deep hurt.
• 1:06:00
  Uh, heartbreaking, heartbreaking pain.
• 1:06:03
  And I rose my hand up again and I lashed at him and it started
• 1:06:08
  to come out of me, all these memories.
• 1:06:10
  And I was lashing at the lamb. And I looked and I opened my
• 1:06:13
  eyes and I saw that with every lash his eyes got brighter and
• 1:06:21
  brighter, like he was looking at me with love, this slain,
• 1:06:28
  brutalized lamb. The more I struck him with my
• 1:06:32
  sin, the more he looked at me with love.
• 1:06:35
  And it made me think about he did not despise the shame.
• 1:06:40
  And I was dying inside. I I it's so hard to describe the
• 1:06:48
  way I felt. I I I felt like I was dying.
• 1:06:52
  It hurt me deep, deep into my gut.
• 1:06:56
  And as I was crying, this light started to gather in the Lamb.
• 1:07:06
  And as I poured out my sorrow on him, the light gathered and
• 1:07:10
  gathered and gathered until Yeshua Hamashiach rose out as a
• 1:07:14
  man and stood before me. And he said to me, You were not
• 1:07:20
  made to carry those things, only I was made to carry those
• 1:07:27
  things. And when you hold back from
• 1:07:32
  giving me those things that hurt you the most, you are
• 1:07:35
  withholding glory from me. You weren't made to carry it, I
• 1:07:41
  was made to carry it. And it's pride to withhold your
• 1:07:45
  suffering from me. And he embraced me and he said
• 1:07:58
  to me, the only thing that I can clothe in my glory is humility.
• 1:08:06
  Meekness, a humble spirit, a contrite heart is the only thing
• 1:08:13
  that is stable enough to carry his glory.
• 1:08:16
  It's the only thing. Because look at Satan.
• 1:08:19
  He had all the accoutrements of glory.
• 1:08:22
  And he betrayed. He betrayed because he lacked
• 1:08:26
  humility. His glory is revealed in us when
• 1:08:30
  we are humbled, when we give over to him that which only he
• 1:08:34
  was made to carry, and that is all of our pain and our sorrow
• 1:08:38
  and our heart. Because in that he's glorified.
• 1:08:44
  Why do you think he had to go down to hell and take back all
• 1:08:46
  that stuff? Why did he have to take upon
• 1:08:48
  himself the sins of the world? Because in doing so his strength
• 1:08:51
  was revealed. His strength is made perfect in
• 1:08:54
  our weakness. He lived that example.
• 1:08:59
  That was probably one of the heaviest moments I've had
• 1:09:02
  listening to a guest on this show, Carly, when you had
• 1:09:09
  mentioned the lamb and how you had the cat of nine tails in
• 1:09:14
  your own hand. And it's so strange because
• 1:09:18
  recently I looked up what a Roman flagrum is.
• 1:09:25
  I feel I'm saying that right. You had pieces of bone webbed
• 1:09:31
  into the leather, strands and pieces of iron, and it just it's
• 1:09:36
  brutal. Yeah, I could barely even get
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  through just the idea. I mean, I was weeping at at just
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  the reality of what Christ went through and for you just to
• 1:09:51
  share that perspective. Like if we have pride, like
• 1:09:56
  we're holding this stuff back, we're not giving it to him.
• 1:09:59
  But he was designed for it. But like Oh my gosh, I don't
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  even know. We weren't designed for it.
• 1:10:05
  We weren't designed for it and and he want.
• 1:10:08
  I remember and at one point he was just he was saying to me
• 1:10:13
  give it to me give it to me. His eyes were full of love.
• 1:10:18
  It's it's the most wild thing. Like just you can't There's
• 1:10:23
  nobody, nobody that ever existed on the planet would not look at
• 1:10:29
  you with hate if you treated. But they they would die, first
• 1:10:32
  of all. Second of all they would hate
• 1:10:34
  you. They'd have to go through.
• 1:10:37
  But that's not him. That's not him.
• 1:10:40
  And and it just really helped me to understand what my soul was
• 1:10:45
  made for because I've despised my soul.
• 1:10:48
  Like, you are so unhinged. What the heck, you're like
• 1:10:53
  having a haunt in the house. You just you're you're in the
• 1:10:56
  House of my body and you just you're you're not stable and
• 1:10:59
  it's scary. And by that I mean because when
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  you live through trauma, you get triggered and things can get
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  difficult. And I've lived that.
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  But my point is is that he's had to show me that our soul, our
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  soul, it's been only made to carry Lovejoy.
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  Peace. Patience.
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  Humbleness. Just what it was designed to
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  carry. And if you're carrying anything
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  other than that, it's not yours to carry.
• 1:11:34
  That's why it feels like it's killing you.
• 1:11:36
  Because it is. Because it's not yours to carry.
• 1:11:39
  Are you going to saddle a house cat with a plow and then shame
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  it for not being able to pull it through some gnarly rooted rocky
• 1:11:47
  soil? No, because the cat wasn't
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  designed to do that. You weren't designed to carry
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  sin. You were designed to carry love
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  and humility and humor and peace.
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  Lay it down. You have to let it go.
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  He will not despise you. He will not.
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  He will love you and you will grow in your respect.
• 1:12:11
  You will grow in the fear of the Lord, in the spirit of might and
• 1:12:14
  counsel and wisdom. You will grow in Him, wow, by
• 1:12:19
  giving to him what you can't carry, so he can give you what
• 1:12:23
  you were designed to carry, which is his presence and his
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  love. It reminds me of First Peter 57.
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  We're supposed to cast our care upon him, for he careth for us.
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  Exactly. Exactly.
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  This is why he says. My burden is easy.
• 1:12:45
  My yoke is light. Yeah, we're we're saddled with a
• 1:12:49
  whole lot of false yokes. I one of my regular prayers is
• 1:12:52
  Lord. I call for the immediate removal
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  of all false yokes and I and every single time I feel like my
• 1:13:00
  shoulders lift up, I feel lighter.
• 1:13:03
  I feel lighter in my heart because I think these things
• 1:13:05
  just come upon us unannounced, you know?
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  So I let it. I try to let it go.
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  And and I can definitely feel when I've neglected to say those
• 1:13:15
  words, because I start to feel really have you.
• 1:13:20
  And really, it's just, you know, to tie it together, you know,
• 1:13:23
  for myself and just for a listener out there, You know the
• 1:13:27
  power of our tongue, you know? So if it's been a couple weeks
• 1:13:32
  since you got real with the Lord, there's no better time
• 1:13:35
  than to pause this recording right now and whatever you've
• 1:13:39
  been towing along and. You know, yelling and stubbing
• 1:13:43
  your toe and cursing and being angry and frustrated.
• 1:13:46
  Just let that stuff go. Whatever burden that you are
• 1:13:50
  dragging along that you don't need to look, we can do this
• 1:13:56
  together. Let's let that thing go.
• 1:13:58
  Because This is why the word. This is why the word is here,
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  like for our correction, our reproof, just for us to be
• 1:14:08
  reminded. And here we are tonight in this.
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  Yeah, And sometimes it can help to actually employ your
• 1:14:16
  imagination in this thing. Yeah.
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  Well, yes, because you can. You can see yourself laying
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  those things down at Jesus. You can see in your imagination.
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  Just take what I've said and have the same imagination.
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  Just because I saw it in the spirit doesn't mean that you
• 1:14:35
  seeing it in the imagination is any less effective.
• 1:14:38
  The imagination of the heart. You can do a word search in the
• 1:14:40
  Bible, it's a whole thing. But lay it down, let that.
• 1:14:44
  Let yourself have that grief and give it over.
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  It's OK. Well, that does spawn an
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  interesting question. Just.
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  With the gift of seeing versus like maybe the gift of like a
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  the word of knowledge, right. And then the imagination.
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  What, How does that really play in like, I have a very vivid
• 1:15:12
  imagination. It's always been something that,
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  I mean, I could I listen to people talk.
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  This is not all the time, but there's sometimes where I can
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  watch little movie clips in my head that are very awesome about
• 1:15:26
  what they're talking about. And just just help me to
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  understand, like if you're for people who offer it, operate in
• 1:15:36
  the gift of knowledge, for example, or word of knowledge,
• 1:15:39
  right. So it's like they just kind of
• 1:15:40
  like know something or whether it's prophetic.
• 1:15:43
  I don't know if I'm using the right words here, but what I'm
• 1:15:46
  getting at is like we're supposed to take captive our
• 1:15:50
  thoughts to the obedience of the Lord.
• 1:15:52
  You know, we'll hear this in the building, but like, we really
• 1:15:55
  don't have the. Best examples of how people
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  sitting down, like what you just said, like triggered it, where
• 1:16:02
  you're like, hey, practice your imagination for that, which is
• 1:16:05
  is righteous, right? Yeah, for sure.
• 1:16:08
  Cleansing your mind in that. I mean, really, I don't know
• 1:16:13
  where, where, where can we go from there?
• 1:16:15
  Like, what's going on with this? There's a whole lot to say about
• 1:16:18
  the imagination. I'm my husband has been
• 1:16:22
  journeying in the realm of the importance of the imagination
• 1:16:25
  for a good long time. And I I'm not going to do it
• 1:16:28
  justice because I'm going to compare the things he said to me
• 1:16:31
  to what's going to come out of my mouth.
• 1:16:33
  And I know it's it's not going to be quite it, but I will say
• 1:16:36
  this about the imagination. Employ it when you're reading
• 1:16:40
  the word, especially when you know there it's telling you
• 1:16:44
  stories, you know, like Ezekiel, he's telling you the story, he's
• 1:16:50
  painting a picture. Take your time and employ your
• 1:16:53
  imagination, because your imagination can.
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  OK, I don't have theology for this, so don't come from my
• 1:17:03
  jugular. But the imagination has a
• 1:17:08
  creative force to create realms. And here's an example.
• 1:17:15
  When I have had fussy times with my husband as I've been maturing
• 1:17:20
  and working out my salvation with fear and trembling, I used
• 1:17:23
  to have this issue where I would argue with my husband alone in
• 1:17:25
  my head because I know what he's fixing to say.
• 1:17:28
  And he, I know what I'm going to say.
• 1:17:30
  And he's going to say that, and I'm going to say this.
• 1:17:31
  And the Lord stopped me one time.
• 1:17:33
  And he said, you are creating a thought realm and pulling actual
• 1:17:39
  things about your life into this thought realm, and it's chaos.
• 1:17:45
  And then you go into your home and you're like, why does it
• 1:17:48
  feel so chaotic? And he's like, because, Carly,
• 1:17:52
  you have created a realm with your imagination and pulled
• 1:17:55
  aspects of your life into it. And it was created in chaos
• 1:18:00
  because you're imagining an argument with your husband and
• 1:18:04
  now you come home and you argue with him.
• 1:18:05
  It's no mystery what happened. So This is why we have to cast
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  down vain imaginations. That was a vain imagination.
• 1:18:14
  It was vain because what is it going to produce in my life?
• 1:18:18
  Just some more arguments in chaos.
• 1:18:22
  So when he said that, I'm like, OK, I'm going to not do this,
• 1:18:25
  right? So what I would have to do is
• 1:18:26
  start singing songs or listening to podcasts or anything else
• 1:18:29
  other than creating these thought realms until I could.
• 1:18:32
  Seriously. Until I could get before the
• 1:18:35
  Lord and say look at my heart, please my God because I'm
• 1:18:41
  regardless of what he's doing or not doing, it doesn't matter.
• 1:18:43
  Doesn't matter. He's he's a man.
• 1:18:45
  Like men aren't just like I'm human.
• 1:18:48
  Whatever. But my heart, Oh, my heart.
• 1:18:52
  I'm making these things out of my heart.
• 1:18:53
  Oh my God, help me. Help.
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  Right. Stop.
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  I'm. I'm not focused on him changing
• 1:18:59
  the circumstance anymore. I'm focused on him changing my
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  heart, which is creating all this chaos in my life.
• 1:19:06
  And so the imagination can be employed for good or for bad.
• 1:19:10
  Be careful what you're imagining.
• 1:19:12
  If you're imagining sickness, disease, if you're imagining not
• 1:19:16
  having enough, if you're imagining fights with your
• 1:19:18
  children, you're imagining fights with your boss.
• 1:19:21
  Your you hate your job, and when you're off your job, you're
• 1:19:23
  imagining how crappy your job is.
• 1:19:25
  These things are creating a force in your life that is just
• 1:19:29
  perpetual bondage. Stop it.
• 1:19:33
  So we can cry and we can pray out to the Lord, and we can pour
• 1:19:36
  out our heart as a drink offering and and complain before
• 1:19:39
  him. He doesn't mind.
• 1:19:40
  But on the backside of that, we have to speak what's true, and
• 1:19:43
  we have to take time to imagine the better.
• 1:19:48
  And this is where you employ your imagination in reading the
• 1:19:51
  scripture. Read Ezekiel.
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  Picture it. Read Jesus's account when he's
• 1:19:56
  talking about stuff. And they tell they give you some
• 1:19:58
  context and some scenes. Sit there and picture it.
• 1:20:00
  Create it in your brain. Put yourself in it.
• 1:20:04
  Sit in that room, that house, when the paraplegic was lowered
• 1:20:08
  through the roof, imagine you were one of his friends.
• 1:20:12
  Imagine you were sitting next to Jesus when this guy got lowered.
• 1:20:16
  Like, be there, do it because those imaginations are not vain.
• 1:20:21
  They're not He. They become realms of encounter.
• 1:20:26
  And maybe it it is in fact birthed from your imagination,
• 1:20:30
  but the Lord will meet you there regardless because He made you
• 1:20:33
  as a creator creative force. You are a creative force.
• 1:20:37
  You were made in His image and likeness, and you have creative
• 1:20:40
  abilities, including creative abilities to make realms.
• 1:20:45
  Thought realms encounter realms. Our capacity is so fast, so the
• 1:21:01
  imaginations of the heart will often reveal to you things that
• 1:21:05
  you need to repent and work on with the Lord.
• 1:21:07
  That working out your salvation with fear and trembling, like my
• 1:21:11
  example I gave, that was an imagination of my heart that I
• 1:21:15
  had to work out with the Lord with fear and trembling, because
• 1:21:18
  I realized the common denominator.
• 1:21:21
  And some of this is me. Help Jesus.
• 1:21:27
  Ditto, yeah. Yeah, it the scriptures talk
• 1:21:34
  about in Proverbs. So a man thinketh he is, and
• 1:21:38
  everything that you just said is really like.
• 1:21:42
  A breakdown, like it. It just packages it in a way
• 1:21:45
  that so much more helpful to understand that.
• 1:21:48
  Because after hearing you, I'm reminded of that verse.
• 1:21:52
  And it's like, yeah, so this is what the process looks like.
• 1:21:55
  And I'm identifying with so much of what you're saying.
• 1:21:58
  It's like, there's times where I feel like you're taking words
• 1:22:01
  right out of my mouth and I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is, this
• 1:22:04
  is good. This is why the Mustard Seed
• 1:22:06
  lives on, 'cause that's a good thing.
• 1:22:09
  This is oneness. He talks to us about the same
• 1:22:12
  thing in many different ways. And then there's these common
• 1:22:14
  threads. And when you hear someone else
• 1:22:16
  say them, you're like, he said that to me too.
• 1:22:18
  And it's like, well, yeah, because we're one body.
• 1:22:22
  He's talking to us. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:22:25
  Amazing, Yeah. I'm just completely amazed by
• 1:22:27
  this conversation. This is very helpful, very
• 1:22:30
  edifying, uplifting. And really, Part 3 is not
• 1:22:38
  enough. I mean, we're to the part where.
• 1:22:41
  Yeah, Part 4 is going to going to be in the near future as
• 1:22:46
  well, just because there there's a ton of questions I have that
• 1:22:50
  like I'm so glad I didn't get to because that means we get a Part
• 1:22:53
  4. But this one right here is is
• 1:22:56
  one for the records because I believe it's close to God's
• 1:22:59
  heart. I believe that this is really
• 1:23:02
  what his people need to hear. Like we agreed on and talked on
• 1:23:07
  earlier, it doesn't need to be weird all the time sometimes for
• 1:23:13
  me, yeah, but but the balance in act of oh God, here's my heart.
• 1:23:20
  Take me deeper. Ring the bell a little bit.
• 1:23:24
  Unveil some things. Bring me a friend who's not
• 1:23:28
  afraid to listen and build and sharpen.
• 1:23:32
  I'm thankful for this podcast and I'm really thankful for your
• 1:23:35
  time tonight, Carly. So we're going to kind of wind
• 1:23:37
  down here a little bit. I guess I'll just ask one last
• 1:23:41
  question. What do you think is one of the
• 1:23:46
  most important messages for the millennial generation today?
• 1:23:51
  If God gave you the microphone and, said Carly, you have a
• 1:23:55
  three minute window to speak to the millennial generation.
• 1:24:02
  Well, after I got off the floor because God handed me a
• 1:24:05
  microphone. OK, let's back up a little bit.
• 1:24:08
  One of the lower cherubims comes over and says this is from the
• 1:24:12
  throne of the most high, you know, but, but I mean, yeah,
• 1:24:15
  Yeah, in the day we're living in, like, we never know when,
• 1:24:18
  like, technology's like, not going to be like, what if this
• 1:24:20
  is the way? Yeah.
• 1:24:22
  I just think of, like, OK, what if there's a blackout for a
• 1:24:25
  little while? And I'm not saying that's
• 1:24:26
  coming. I'm not saying it's not coming.
• 1:24:28
  But but what I'm getting at here, Carly?
• 1:24:31
  Is what if this was the last opportunity to reach the
• 1:24:34
  majority of the listeners? What would you say to them?
• 1:24:38
  You have the green light right now.
• 1:24:40
  OK. So many things are like ripping
• 1:24:43
  through my head. OK, so, but the number one thing
• 1:24:46
  that's coming to my mind is not too long ago I was well, during
• 1:24:52
  the COVID lockdowns, we were all lamenting a lot of things, OK.
• 1:24:57
  One of the things I was lamenting was I was like, Lord,
• 1:25:01
  look at all these people that are so confused about their
• 1:25:04
  identity. What is going on?
• 1:25:07
  Like, you, ma'am, are not a squirrel.
• 1:25:11
  I know you feel like a squirrel. I have too much coffee and I
• 1:25:15
  feel like a squirrel, but I know I'm not an actual squirrel and I
• 1:25:20
  was just like, God, you need to step in here.
• 1:25:22
  This is getting really sketchy. Like what?
• 1:25:26
  You can't have grown men in leotards, in the women's
• 1:25:29
  bathroom with little children. What are we doing with
• 1:25:31
  ourselves? What is happening?
• 1:25:33
  And he said to me, because I was upset, you know, I was like
• 1:25:37
  pissed. And he said to me, the confusion
• 1:25:44
  of identity you see in the culture is a direct reflection
• 1:25:49
  of the confusion of identity of my people who are called
• 1:25:53
  according to my name. Because you don't know who you
• 1:25:57
  are, how can the world know who they are?
• 1:26:00
  Oh my God, oh Jesus. And then he said to me, everyone
• 1:26:15
  who waves their rainbow flag has become a beacon of encounter
• 1:26:21
  with me. And I'm coming for them.
• 1:26:28
  And he said, the more my people understand who they are and they
• 1:26:36
  be that, that's a journey. That's not an event, folks.
• 1:26:40
  That's a journey. There's a lot that goes into it.
• 1:26:43
  Keep going. Keep going.
• 1:26:45
  You're doing great. The more that the world will
• 1:26:52
  experience order in things, because all of creation is
• 1:26:59
  waiting for the manifestations of the sons of God, because
• 1:27:05
  there's redemption in that. And so when we look out at the
• 1:27:09
  world and we're like, what about this?
• 1:27:11
  You're all so messed up. If you're going to use a sword
• 1:27:14
  on somebody else like that, use it on yourself first.
• 1:27:20
  The sword of the spirit, it divides bone and marrow,
• 1:27:26
  thoughts and intents of the heart.
• 1:27:27
  You have to use it on yourself first.
• 1:27:32
  So my now more than three minute message somebody took the mic
• 1:27:36
  for me. That cherub he took the mic,
• 1:27:38
  it's been 3 minutes is really learn who you are and and learn
• 1:27:44
  who he is and you and who you are and him.
• 1:27:46
  And it's big folks. It's real big.
• 1:27:49
  You're not small, of no substance or significance.
• 1:27:55
  You're not. You're huge.
• 1:27:57
  You are so important. You are tremendously.
• 1:28:02
  You are valued at the creator himself.
• 1:28:07
  That's your value. That's your value.
• 1:28:09
  You're huge. And the last thing I would say,
• 1:28:12
  just grabbing at the mic with the cherub is learn to love.
• 1:28:16
  Learn to love. Learn to love.
• 1:28:18
  Learn to love. Love is a dangerous thing.
• 1:28:20
  It's risky. You you could get hurt.
• 1:28:23
  I got hurt. I get hurt.
• 1:28:24
  I hurt others I love. But we have to learn to love.
• 1:28:28
  We have to learn to love. It's so important.
• 1:28:31
  You could do everything else right.
• 1:28:33
  But if you don't love, you ain't doing it right.
• 1:28:36
  I'm. I'm talking to myself now.
• 1:28:37
  Because hey, if we had another hour, that would be another
• 1:28:40
  journey. Well, it's an always an honor
• 1:28:46
  to. Connect with you and just You're
• 1:28:48
  a bright light in this day and age, and you're causing others
• 1:28:53
  to brighten their lights. Arise and shine, for thy light
• 1:29:01
  is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.
• 1:29:06
  For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross
• 1:29:11
  darkness the people, but the Lord shall arise upon thee.
• 1:29:16
  And his glory shall be seen upon thee.
• 1:29:21
  You guys share this one. I don't care how you share this
• 1:29:24
  episode. Word of mouth, text message via
• 1:29:27
  e-mail. Post it on your social media.
• 1:29:31
  It doesn't matter. Just share this episode.
• 1:29:34
  Because that's how we find one more person.
• 1:29:38
  Just like you and me coming to you from southeastern
• 1:29:43
  Pennsylvania. God bless.
• 1:29:47
  And goodbye. None.