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17. A Very Valuable Life Lesson | Featuring Raman Kavaseri · Forget The Noise

• speaker-0: They say motivation is something you want. Discipline is something you need. Obsession is something you have to have. I'm gonna show you what I wanted, how I got it, and how I was obsessed to get there. All right, another week on Forget the Noise podcast. And again, we got a really cool guest today. Recently I started playing golf and I'm flabbergasted on how much it resonates with personal development. Like it's really actually surprised me on like mindset, the emotional control you need, the consistency. And I had the wrong vision of the sport the whole way through. Like for years and years, I'm like, it's just golf. You just hit a ball with a tire iron. That's pretty much it. But like the practice in the game and the consistency that you need and the mindset. I thought what better way to kind of integrate that into life by bringing on my golf coach straight up. It was just like a golf coach. I went out golfing, realized how much I sucked, called around. And we today we have Ramon Kavasari, Cavassari. Yeah, you were right. I never call him by his last name. I call him Big Dog. That's what I call him, right? And we decided I decided to bring him on because I think one, it resonates with me. Two, you guys get to see a little bit behind the scenes of who I am. My learning curve because I feel like all I put on in social media is win, win, win, or I'm doing this and I'm getting this done and I'm accomplishing this. And he's gonna be able to tell you about my struggles throughout the whole thing. Like straight up, he's gonna say, like, there is you when you first walked in there, you sucked. So that puts a realistic aspect to it. And then he's gonna show you like how life kind of reflects with golf. It's amazing how much it's kind of like tied in together, right? Like there's so many parts of golf. And there's a cool part later on in my show notes I made that you said in your onboarding form, and you described golf, but as I'm reading it, I'm like, that's life. speaker-1: Exactly. speaker-0: Exactly, right? Exactly. So he's a golf clo coach. He lived a long career in the media industry, worked in sales and marketing, and then he flipped the script at fifty, moved over to Canada. He was an avid athlete, started golfing around forty, kind of a hobby, part-time gig, and now he's running Full time with RK Golf, which I'm a student of. So we're gonna let kind of take the floor. Raymond, take the floor, introduce yourself. speaker-1: Thanks for having me, AJ. Like I like what you're doing, apart from your business, this one, and very impressed with your setup. Appreciate it. Very impressive setup. Thanks for having me. As you said, golf teachers lifeless. But I'm gonna come for that in the later part. So you said I moved into Canada in my fifties. I'm not a very young guy. speaker-0: Yeah. Gul he golfs like it. I've seen him golf. speaker-1: But I feel young always. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: That's important in life. You gotta be energetic. How do you do that? It doesn't come by just like that. You need to keep on practicing and you have a nice lifestyle. What is nice lifestyle? It's not just Having this, drinking, this, that, and all, you have to have some kind of discipline. A discipline doesn't come out of one day or a week or a year. It's a practice throughout your life. That's how you develop something. And then you've got to do what is what you're passionate about. Yeah. Like I said in the in the notes, when you wake up in the morning, you should feel like doing your work. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: If you don't feel like you're just going with a compulsion. of doing your work, you're not going to do it well. Anything done with passion is always you produce best. speaker-0: And that really jumped out on me, honestly. When I was going through the on onboarding forum, right away I want to dive into this. It's like impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than explore the power they have to change it. And you said impossible is nothing. Like that, right as soon as I read in the board, I'm like, boom, we're gonna start with that, right? So like you said that's your favorite saying. Yeah so like what resonates with you on that? speaker-1: What's impossible in life? speaker-0: I think nothing. I genuinely think nothing. I think you can do whatever you think you can do, right? speaker-1: Exactly I said, impossible is nothing. speaker-0: Except for my long irons. I can't hit my five. That that that is impossible. The fives, forget it. But besides that, everything else is possible. speaker-1: That actually reminds me s l last evening I had a student, excellent player. He always he plays at a good score and stuff. He said, I need a lesson. So what happened? I c my five iron is not working. I said, Not your five iron is not working. You're not working with speaker-0: I think it's a club. I think it's a club, honestly, because I know a lot of guys that can't play with that five iron, so speaker-1: And then half an hour later in the in the lesson, he is smoking it like anything. So it's like if something is not working, how you prepare for that. Prepare yourself to make it work. That's why I say impossible is nothing. speaker-0: I like that because I think if you step back from something and you reassess, you can do anything you want. I think people go into things with either gun hole, horns out, just go and do it and hope it works out, or they're not properly prepared for it. And as you know with golf, like you have to prepare. Like this you're always on me like that. Like, AJ, step back, take a breather, you know, pay attention, take a practice when I go up there, I just try to hit the ball and it's like it's not gonna work that way, right? Yeah, it's not speaker-1: Work that way. So, what was happening is for him, coming back to the same issue of this fire iron because you brought in fire iron, because some people the wood doesn't work, this works. You have 14 clubs in your bag, all the 14 clips you have to be super friendly with that, and it should be favorite for you. Some people say I can't handle my driver. Why not? That's the easiest one. speaker-0: Yeah, driver no problem, the hybrid is. speaker-1: A huge fairway, the other things you have a narrow pa place to go on land, why you can't hit a driver. But again, you're not getting prepared to use that driver. You already set in your mind, driver is a problem. You start with a negative thought. Negative attitude, I will say more than thought. So anything you approach with that, it's not going to be possible. speaker-0: I like that aspect of like you're already going in there with a negative thought because I find a lot of that with business and stuff like that. When I go into something, I'm like, this is gonna be like the client I was just telling you about with the big build. I'm like, this is gonna be tough, right? And I feel like it's been tougher than it needed to be because I'm already almost frustrated getting to that point of even starting where once I start, I'm like, okay, now I'm already like going uphill rather than just kind of building momentum. So like you're right, like going into something with a negative mindset, it sets a standard for Everything. It's like when someone wakes up late and they're in a rush, right? Everyone says it. Like if I wake up late, my whole day's sorry kind of sh. speaker-1: People say I'm not a morning person. speaker-0: I hate that. speaker-1: Who said you are a night person? You speaker-0: I know. I hate that. It's speaker-1: develop yourself. speaker-0: T Bone over here. He's we just had this conversation, goes, I gotta start being a morning person. I'm like, why aren't you a morning person now? Like just wake up. Like you gotta wake up, just wake up. Like, you know what I mean? He goes, I don't know how you get up at four a.m. And I'm like, I just do my alarm goes off, I get up, put my feet on the ground, one foot in front of the other. Like, that's it, right? The consumer isn't a moron, she's your wife. I heard this quote and it's actually changed a lot of like perspective for me because when I have a client and like sometimes you you just don't align with the client and I'm like, why are they thinking like this? It's so wrong. Like especially since I got into some of the software stuff. I'm like, that's not the way we should build it. We should build it like this, right? But then I step out and I'm like, no, like let's just picture that this is my wife. Right? How would I talk to her? How would I do it? I'd probably get told I'm an idiot, but you know, for the most part. So you ran sales and marketing teams and now you sell golf, right? So what's the biggest lie that you find with selling golf? speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: I I love this already. Go. speaker-1: I don't sell it at all. I do a service. AJ comes to me as a student. I got to see what AJ needs. I'm not going to say AJ, five lessons is not enough for you. Book 10 lessons or 20 lessons. I have this package. I never do that. speaker-0: You actually don't, yeah, because I booked one and I was the one that booked more. speaker-1: You come, some people say, you know, like I'll try one. I said, come try. You don't have to try. I'll come, I'll give you the details, you feel like I'll tell you how the golf works. Nothing can be learned in one lesson. But it's up to you to take the first question I ask when you come in. You remember, why do you want to play golf? speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: What do you want to achieve? Usual answer is, you know who answered also. Yeah. Many people came with you. I don't want to become a pro. I just want to play golf. speaker-0: I say I want to be a pro. I said I want to a pro. speaker-1: I'll say keep a mindset of becoming a pro or play to the level of pro, you will achieve at least fifty percent. You already have a mindset, I just want to go and play. You don't need lessons. Just go and play. Right? speaker-0: And I I do see that with some people I know that are playing golf. They're like I don't want to be a pro and it's like they're just good enough. And I'm not I'm like I've already done what five or six lessons with you. It's one of those like, Well now I want more. Like I I can do more, I can do more. So I keep pushing it. So I I agree coming to the mindset saying I want to be a pro and then you know, shoot for the stars, hit the moon. Yeah, it's kinda like that, right? Yeah. Yeah, so I I I like that. speaker-1: Setting goals is very important. Like what you said go w what we spoke now is a setting goal. This is what that's the first question I ask. Even in life is that without a goal you can't move. Or are you going to hang on to the goal? No, you gotta work through your way to achieve the goal. speaker-0: I a hundred percent I agree with that. so now that you're in the golf industry, like I'm sure you have clients that have either worked with other golfers, I'm sure the internet's just a nightmare for you. What people learn on like YouTube and TikTok and stuff like that. Like, what do you find is a big thing people are lied to about? Like are and I'm not looking for like club face open. I'm like are people given false hope? Let's say. Like, hey, all you have to do is twist your shoulder and everything's better. It's like, do you find a lot of that? Bullshit in the industry? Many. Yeah. speaker-1: Many. People who watch I mean I watch a lot of YouTubers, but what what they say in YouTube is nothing wrong. But they can't really come to the point because that's free. Right? You got to i they will talk around, but then your swing, your body the way it moves, my body the way it moves, and Varun's body the way it moves is different. But the technique, the Core technique is the same. So how do I bring the technique into your the way your body is moving? YouTube is very generalized. They talk the right technique. Will it apply to you? No. No. Half the class when you're doing a change something, it clicks for you. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Why it takes half the class for me? Because I'm studying what you're doing. The way, the way I'm doing the chip you you're not doing. So how do I fit it into you? speaker-0: Yeah. So which my short game's great now. I'm just letting everyone know out there. My short game is on par. Yeah. Just excellent. This guy. no, and I agree with you, but like playing golf I find it just made me happier. And not just happier in life. It just kinda like it was something that I thought I was never able to do because I was never good at it. Right. And then made me more confident and by being more confident I want to take on the next thing and do the next thing. So it's like one of those like it kind of bleeds over. It's like it fills your cup and then bleeds over. And everyone might have something different than golf or, you know, might be a different sport, might be a different hobby or anything like that. What do you feel like out of your students, what are you seeing the most improvement in them? Is it like a physical thing? Like are you finding your students are getting good at golf? It's like, well, I want to be in better shape. Or, you know, I'm getting better at golf and now I'm in a better mood or I'm more confident. Like what are you finding as the aver like the biggest change in your students as they get better and they progress more. speaker-1: Main thing I see the students when they get the good information, because most of the people coming to me, even if they played for some time, they're not well informed of the technical part of the game. This game is highly technical. Because you are not reacting to the ball. You are acting on the ball. Because the ball is just lying there. Whether to screw it up or make a better shot is in your hand. Like puck is not passed to you or the ball is not passed to you on your left side or right side and you react to it. And then you the way it comes, you react. Here it's not like that. Ball is there, it's giving you a situation, water on the left, tree on the right, it's lying this now. You act on it, put it in the right place. You take your time and then hit that. It needs real technical ability in that. More than ability, you need the technical knowledge, how to do it. So when the students come to me when I talk about more of a if you see my first two lessons, it will be more talking, talking, talking, you won't be hitting ball much. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Because I feed with so much of information. They really like it. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And then after the second lesson, you see them, they put a lot of effort in the drills and stuff I asked them to do, which really encourages me. Like you know, because you need it's a hard work anything, not only golf. Anything is a hard work. Unless you work hard, you're not going to achieve anything. speaker-0: It's gotta be a hard part of the job too, because like with my job, well, I guess with the consulting coaching, I had to rely on other people doing the work and and proving themselves. But for the most part, it's like if you don't have a student that's putting in the effort, that's gotta be hard to like take in. Because it's like if I'm putting the effort in and you're not putting it in, like, why do I care? Like that's gotta be a hard part of the job too, because like like you said, with some students, they come in there and it's like that, like mental fulfillment where it's like by the second and third lesson they're like, ooh, now I wanna play, now I wanna do it. Now if you have a student that doesn't give a shit, right? Like that's gotta be a hard mental strain on you as a coach. It's almost discouraging, right? Yeah, you can only teach, right? I want to dive into purpose a little bit. So I found a quote that says purpose is a lamp of someone's why. And do you find there's a correlation between a student who learns and how they develop as an individual? Like do you see a student, say you do two lessons with them, then you see them on the third. Do you see something different in them as a whole, not just as a golfer? Like do you see a different in attitude and mental like stress or anything like that? speaker-1: I won't see in two lessons of their personal development or something, definitely on the technical part of the game and then the way they are moving their body and then playing the game. But definitely any sport is a life lesson. Yeah. That's what I call it. It teaches very beautiful values in lesson. You anybody serious about sports, they know how to accept defeat, how to fight back, how to f set a target and work toward it. And these things come out of because in sports you keep on doing it, doing it, doing it. It's a it like I talked to you about muscle memory. Everything is like a practice. Anything you want to do, you do every day. It becomes into a muscle memory or a brain memory or wherever it is. It becomes a habit. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: That's what they do. So it teaches, but the golf, as I said now, teaches more valuable lessons. I'm not telling because I'm the golf coach or something, I was a tennis player before I learned a lot. I became a much better person and after start playing a very serious tennis. Because sometimes you work so hard on the court, finally you lose in one point. speaker-0: Yeah. And that's how I like I said the beginning of the episode, and I will get to that later on in the episode. There's so many little things when I'm playing around where I'm like, this can resonate. And maybe I'm looking too deep into it because I'm on this like personal development journey and trying to better myself. But I'm trying to resonate everything I do and saying, like, how is this corresponding with my life? And it sounds so stupid. Like honestly it does. But go out in the golf course and actually break down the game. Can you ask me that question? speaker-1: To manage the situation, whatever it is, good difficult situation, put it like that. You the situation has come, you're going to react to it or wait a few minutes and then act on it. That's the best way, right? People speaker-0: A hundred percent. speaker-1: who react are prone to do more mistakes. People who wait and act on it might do mistakes. But the percentage is going to be less. So the chances of being right is on this side. That's what you do in golf. You don't react to anything. The best thing is put the previous shot behind you, put the hurdles and challenges around you, put behind you, take it away from you, act on the ball. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: This is exactly a life shows so much of challenges. If you're going to get stuck with these challenges, react to the challenges and worry about those challenges. You're not going to act on your speaker-0: Or always thinking the past too. That's another one, right? Yeah, that's Like your last shot. Your last shot, you shanked it. Exactly. Forget it, just move on, right? Yeah. something as se simple as teaching someone a golf swing. Do you find it fulfills like your passion? Okay. speaker-1: Absolutely. speaker-0: Like a good like seeing a student from like a horrible golf swing to like a nice clean golf swing. It it hi it hits that kind of like target for you, doesn't it? speaker-1: Absolutely. speaker-0: Is it more Because it's golf or more because you've seen someone achieve something? speaker-1: I'm I'm making someone achieve something which I'm very passionate about. That's that's the main thing. That's that's why I become a full-time teacher now. speaker-0: I try to go through your form and you didn't want to brag. I don't know why this guy doesn't want to brag. Like, I brought him on for a reason, right? and he literally said that he doesn't want to brag because he doesn't feel like he accomplished anything great. I think you're downplaying it. like you're doing what you love to do for the rest of your life. That's that's it, that's what everyone's accomplishment is aimed towards. And you're literally in the form saying, I don't want to brag that I accomplished anything great. And I'm like, you literally hit the goal that 99% of people I know are trying to hit. So it's like, you know, I'm looking at this, I'm like, you did accomplish something. speaker-1: If you start bragging about what you're doing. That's going to put a full full stop on your growth. speaker-0: He shuts me down again. He literally shuts me down again. No, but I think Yeah. speaker-1: Enjoy enjoy what you're doing and still feel that more to learn and more to progress. speaker-0: Okay, so that's the angle you're looking at. Not like I've accomplished a lot so I can stop. It's more like I've done a lot, but I'm gonna keep going. Yeah. I I like that kind of because I I feel like I'm that type of person, right? I think now, like, you know, Casha, she's got to learn me where she's kinda like, he's just not gonna stop. He's just gonna keep going, right? But at first, like her, our friends and stuff were like, You have enough on your plate. Like, why are you adding more to your plate? And I'm like, I did it, I've done it, I'm moving on. Or I'm gonna balance two or balance three things, right? So I get what you're saying. Okay, so like maybe I took the brag and maybe I should take the word brag, you know. It's on my onboarding form. Like speaker-1: That's a good speaker-0: g give me a spot to brag, right? Or here's your spot to brag. I think that's what the onboarding form says. And but I do like that, I can appreciate that. And that shows, I guess, humility and humbleness, right? Which we're gonna dive into a bit after. Follow your passion's bad advice. Passion comes after you put in the hard work. Become excellent, but not before. Do you feel like you're passionate about golf before you're excellent at golf? speaker-1: I'm still not excellent. speaker-0: He he's really not helping me here. You know you are. You're you're good at golf. speaker-1: Good at golf. Excellent is a very big word to use that. I'm I'm telling you, I'm still learning. speaker-0: But do you find the passion came first or like because I find some people you how some people are just naturally like athletic, right? So say basketball, right? Someone walks up and can just hit three pointers all the time. They're naturally good. And then they're like, Hey, I'm good at this, let me try more, and then they fall in love with it. Yeah. So for you, which one was it? Was it speaker-1: That's a very good question. That's a good question. For me, I'm I have a gift. Sports comes very naturally for me. And then I fell in love with sports right from my childhood. Any sports I take, especially racket sports, I'm pretty good, better than golf. When I was playing tennis, I was like really good in that. Now that excellent. speaker-0: So you're excellent in ten he's bragging now, he's bragging. speaker-1: Third is a step down from excellent. So, but it it becomes a sports become a passion for me. Golf for a different reason, like you know, because as I said, I'm able to be I become a better person. And then I picked up golf at a little later stage, and then I as I get keep getting good at it. For me, anything very technically difficult excites me. This is what golf did to me. Because it's so much of I'll tell you a story now. Very interesting. How did I get into golfing? So I was playing tennis at a pretty high level, excuse me for. at at a pretty decent level. And then went to a driving day and okay, let's hit some ball. Me and my friend, I was in Dubai that time. it's a it's a big academy, it's a Montgomery and it's a PGM managed course and stuff. I tried to I learned how to grip then I was hitting ball. Fitness is not a problem. I was a tennis player already. Power is not a problem. I'm quite powerful. The ball is not going. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: I'm hitting. My eye hand coordination is so good. So I can see the ball and hit. But the ball is not moving, it's flying everywhere. Sometimes it's rolling. After some times, then I started thinking there is something in this. Came back and sat in a chair, just looking at people or what they're doing and stuff. My curiosity is now coming in. Like, what's in it? Why I can't hit it? One old guy just came with his wife. He was walking a little bit slowly because he can't walk fast. It's pretty old. He said, darling, let me hit some ball and come. He just went. I don't know, it happened for a reason. He took the bear where I'm sitting right in front of me. We put some ball. He I mean, he has to be so slow because he's he's not even standing straight. That kind of a Aim this flag, ten balls on this flag. Aim the other flag, took a different club, ten balls on this flag. This blew me out. Man, this is so good. Ran straight to the academy there, called for a coach. I said, I need to learn this game. This is what happened to me. He said, no, no, no, don't get excited, some people. I said, no. I'm a what is the background? And I said I play tennis and blah, blah, blah. But I need to learn this game. Book me for 10 classes. Wow. He said, no, take five classes, you see how it goes, people get excited. Book me for 10 classes. Here is the money. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: He sat with him. I went for classes and then the way I'm just pushing myself into it, the coach got really excited and he worked really well with me. It took like about 10. I left some time and then again I came back to him, did five more lessons. And then in one year I went and played a tournament. speaker-0: wow. speaker-1: In one year it took. One year I was like playing a pretty decent golf. speaker-0: That's crazy. speaker-1: So the technical aspect of it just drew me in. Like, no I need to I need to learn this. speaker-0: See, that's what I'm enjoying about golf now, is like the technical part of it. Because you know me, like when I first started, like I couldn't hit a ball. Like I I couldn't even connect the ball, let alone like skull it or s or chunk it or I wasn't even hitting the ball. I was missing it completely. So like when I started hitting the ball, now it's like well, you even saw when you were doing the lesson the other day with Casha. Yeah. Like I'm like physically, I'm like, okay, I gotta hit over there. Okay, now I'm gonna hit over Now I'm gonna get another club. I'm gonna hit that one over there. Cold. Like I'm enjoying golf more now with technical aspect. And I feel like it's the same thing with life where you get to a certain point, like say for like with my business, right? I got to my business, I'm like, okay, now I'm making money. But what can I else can I do in my business that I can have do more? Like, can I hire someone and I have more time? Can I, you know, hire more people and get, you know, do bigger projects and make more money. Like it there, there's like this like weird science behind it where it's like it starts getting strategic. And that's the part I like. Like my business solutions company, everyone hates doing what we do. No one likes doing the boring stuff, right? And I love it. I love the technical aspect of it, the planning, the logistics. Like we have a general contract company. We had to schedule out 14 trades on average every like two weeks. And I'm like, okay, this guy moves over here and that guy goes there. It's like almost like chess. And it gets me like excited about it, right? Like that's the part I like. Like going out like putting a sheet of drywall on the wall, I don't give a shit about. I don't care to actually hang a sheet of drywall. Like the whole logistics about it. Like I got four guys and two guys gonna go there, one guy's gonna go there for half a day and then go help this guy. Like it's a technical aspect. So I can appreciate you with the technical aspect of it. Like now, even like swinging a club, like, you know, face down and face up. Like, you know, I'm starting to learn like I can drive the ball or I can like hit it higher or lower. Like it's something about it where it's like it gives it another layer of difficulty. Yeah. Just like in life. Like Someone goes out and runs one kilometer. It's like, well, now can I do two? Can I do three? Well, how long is it gonna take me to do five? Well, now that I can do five, let me see if I can get to ten. Like, you know, it's it there's this like science behind it that's like just different, right? And it resonates with everything you do in life. Yeah. You know what I mean? Even if it's getting in shape, it's like, okay, this week I lost a pound, right? Well, maybe if I keep doing this in six months I can lose 20 pounds. Yeah. And it's like you said, it's doing something with a goal in mind. And having a plan to get there, like you were saying at the beginning of the episode. would you have done it sooner? Would you jump ship and become a golf coach sooner? Or do you think what you learnt before that has helped you become a better coach later on? speaker-1: See, the becoming a golf golf coach was in my mind when I start coaching some of the people I know. Because playing a good golf and teaching somebody is two different things. You can play, they're all excellent players. If you ask them to see what you're doing, they might find some mistakes. How to put it into your system is a different thing. This is where I did self-start a lot myself. Seeing some people coaching and launching a lot of coaching. Of course, when I got certified, you get a lot of materials to read and we talk to a lot of teachers, see what they are doing and stuff. It took some time because I want to be really confident when I'm teaching, because I'm very passionate about teaching golf. I don't want to start and then have a gap. man, I'm not able to do it. Let me take some time. So to avoid that, again preparation. This speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: is where I come in. I'm I'm a guy who really believe on homework. You do your homework before you do something. That's exactly it took some time for me. And then I I there's a shift from one place to the other place. I came to Canada in 50s, I told you, there is a settling period is there. Yeah. So I had to give that time. Where this is going to go a little in the back, but still it was behind my head, you know. And then I really prepared myself. So most of the techniques and the way I'm approaching are all I developed myself. It's not from the books from thing. It's just see people who are doing this, and many take tips from that. There are excellent teachers in our teachers' association. Talk to them, see what they're doing. see a lot of videos, practice myself, how is going to apply, how it's going to apply to this guy, if this guy even if you see the pros, they're de all not everyone shrinks the same way. speaker-0: No, I know that. I'm starting to notice that now, yeah. speaker-1: But everyone has got us techniques correct. Yeah. So where do you get the people into it? Because when you come for for a lesson, you should two things is important. One, you should improve. speaker-0: Two wear your golf shoes. I get in trouble for every day. I wear running shoes all all the time. speaker-1: That I keep telling. So one you should improve, one you should enjoy. If I'm going to make it difficult for you, it's not going to speaker-0: She was not happy one day. Not happy. She was very upset. Last lesson, she's very fired up about last lesson, so that was good. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, I I I spoke to her in between when we met because we we had to cancel the class because of the rain. Told her how many lessons you took. What are you trying to touch here now? You can't get frustrated. speaker-0: But maybe then one more lesson, now she's hitting the ball like crazy, right? So it's yeah, it's amazing like how quickly you can advance once you apply yourself to it. So you think with everything you learned and the homework you to do, because I don't think I could have started my business earlier. Because my job previously taught me so many things and trades and molded me a certain way that helped me create the person I am today to run my business. So like you agree, like you wouldn't have been able to run it before we dealt with that. speaker-1: See, that's that's the homework happen for you. So the the usual way I tell people if you're standing on the ground, you have 10 steps to reach somewhere. You can't stand here and keep seeing the tenth step. You got to first do your first step, keep your feet nice grounded on the first step before you lift one leg to go to the second step. Second step get grounded and then go to the third step. You can't jump from here to the tenth step straight. speaker-0: I think there's a process in everything. There's a pro speaker-1: Process. You need to wait for it, but not sitting and waiting, working towards the target. speaker-0: You're making this episode easy for me because you said success comes out of relentless pursuit of mastering what you do, which is exactly what you're just describing. That's literally my next note. It's exactly that. So Yeah. Was the plan always to coach? Like when you started golfing? Was it always like you went to that academy, you took your fifteen lessons, did your first tournament, and you're like, Fuck yeah, I'm gonna become a coach. Like what was that always in the plan? No. So where did that resonate? speaker-1: When I start playing well, I still struggle in some places. And then I see some people struggling it. I come back. I I keep always thinking because when it comes to the sports when I really want to get better, I keep thinking about thinking about it. speaker-0: So he's the guy when you're on the T box that's judging you. That's who it is. He's standing just outside the clubhouse looking at you doing the yes, dance is. Like that that's him right there. That's what he's doing. speaker-1: That's the problem with that. So yeah, so it once I start playing well, see that line I put I keep repeat I I keep saying that because don't see your scorecard. My my line is a scorecard is a byproduct of your relentless pursuit of mastery. That's my line always. Most of the students, maybe I not use that to you. End of the fifth lesson I tell this. Or end of the tenth lesson I say this. Don't play for the scorecard. speaker-0: That's the same thing as your daily actions are the byproduct of your results. Right. Right? So again, golf and life. Yeah. Life is golf, right? That's pretty much it. So the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The next best time is now. I kind of threw that in there because you were saying you did a whole like life swap later on. It's either you could have done this, like I was asking you, 20 years ago and become a golf coach, or the next best time is kind of now. So I feel like you did the latter with golf. most of our audience is between 30 and 40. And like I tell all my guests, like I want people to get something out of this episode, right? So a lot of our audience, like I said, is between 30 and 40. And some of them are going through career changes, some of them are scared to make the career change, some of them are just don't want to do it because they don't think it's possible or I got too much on my plate. Like talk us through how that all happened. Cause that's like an extreme. Like move from India to here and then start golfing, coming out of like media sales and marketing. Like that's they're not even a line. Yeah, that's they're not even like that's a lot. Yeah. You know what I Like if T-Bone here gets out of like videography and gets into just editing, they kind of like. align with each other, right? Like it but like those two are just like halfway across the world on top of that. speaker-1: Yeah. Moving into Canada is always there because my wife is a Canadian citizen. From speaker-0: Okay. speaker-1: she did her high school and university, everything. She's from Waterloo. And then we met in Dubai. speaker-0: Okay. speaker-1: So my son automatically become Canadian. So eventually I know I'm going to move here. When we will move we we decided when when my son hit high school we'll move. So moving in here is always in the plan. speaker-0: Okay. speaker-1: What I'm going to do is is differently, totally different because I'm doing something really I was in a pretty good job there. Like I was marketing director for the biggest media company there. That that's besides the point. Like once I move in here, again, like the the sports is in my system always. Like, you know, like why not I make this career? So I waited till my Son finished his high school, university and he did his master's. He's a biomedical engineer, he's doing pretty good. Once he settles down, I said, no, now let me get into my passion. Now I need to get it. Now there is there's nothing, no strings holding me back. Yeah. Only thing I had to take a risk. I'm ready speaker-0: Yeah. And just jump into it. speaker-1: for risk. speaker-0: So how long were you doing it part time as a hobby until it went full time? speaker-1: I got certified like three years back. That's when I decided I want to become a because you need a certain you had to get certified because the certificate is not just a certificate puts you as a teacher. It teaches you a lot. You know, you really learn about the rules and the technical part of it, a lot you learn. So once I got certified, I just want to see because I don't want to go away from Orangeville. I love this town so much. I moved into this town like about five years back. I was in Mississauga when I came. It's so good. speaker-0: Different, I know it's all good. Never lineups at the tea box, always tea times available, drive range is always empty. speaker-1: People are nice, a small town, the other towns come in here and you know, it's it's very friendly. And I seen the golfers who the people who are coming to learn from me, they're really passionate about serious about learning. And they like to ask me the rules. Hey, this is right, this is wrong, and you know, yeah. They like to go by rules. And that's why you see the courses in this side are well maintained. Yeah. It's not dug big holes. Right? speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: But not others are doing bad thing. I'm just telling I I I like Orangeville. So Here where did I I go out of topic quite often. What was it? W why did I say I like orange bill? Yeah. speaker-0: we those yeah, the transition. What was the transition like? So I think that's where we're at, right? Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: It is my problem. speaker-0: I am the same way, I guess girl brain. So speaker-1: I go in line only when I'm talking golf. When it goes out of golf it goes away. Sometimes my wife walks away from speaker-0: I know, right? So like did you find any pros and cons when you decided to do a career change at fifty? Like what were the good things and what were the bad speaker-1: Yeah. First of all you need a guts. Really. Yeah. You need to be really focused. Yeah, I'm going to do it. Because anything you start new. First first thing is fifty I don't feel old. Yeah, speaker-0: No, I don't think fifty's old. speaker-1: so I'm still young. I have lots of years left. So changing career at fifty is is a normal thing. It should be a normal thing. It's not a retirement age. speaker-0: I I say that all the time. I think you can change careers tomorrow if you want. Like just drop everything and go. Like if you actually put the work in, it's gonna you know, like the results. speaker-1: 550, like when I moved in here, and then when I'm when I got the idea of becoming a coach, I'm already doing my homework. So I took a little more time to do my homework. And I'm saying okay, I'm ready, God certified. And okay, what I'm going to do do different. A lot of people say, hey, you are a coach now. Put two simulators. I said there is already like five, six places, simulators. speaker-0: Yeah, I think there's five around us. speaker-1: Too many now. It's a small town. I said, I'm not going to do this rental business there. No, no, I'm I want to be a coach. I want to do I'll be like putting up a center soon. That's what I said. Like, you know, you ask me, Are you drawing a line? No, there is no finish line for me. There is always moving forward. So I should move forward with a focus, not to just get into four or five simulators and then people come use it. That every everyone you don't need to be a coach for that. speaker-0: No. speaker-1: You just need money. speaker-0: I honestly think we have five in town. Yeah, yeah. One, two, three, four. I know we have four for sure. speaker-1: Yeah, there's one called Ace Track. That's where I'm I'll be coaching in the winter. Yeah, I'm in their website. speaker-0: Yeah, and then there's one down by the mall, there's one just up the street from us, there's one at my gym, Racquet Club. Yeah. speaker-1: On the on the ten and ten is planning to put one. speaker-0: There you go. So speaker-1: So you you you got plenty of people. So as I said, you don't have to be a coach to do that. So what I'm going to do as a coach, that's where I have to keep progressing. speaker-0: I liked how you coached outside. I feel like I don't know if I could have learned in a simulator. There's something about being outdoors. It's just like I I had to learn outside. Now can I go to a simulator? Yes, but like speaker-1: You're but you've got the right one. speaker-0: there there was something about wanting to learn outside. I was like, no, it's golf. I need to learn to be outside, get some sunlight. There's a like physical fitness aspect to it. Like, don't get me wrong, I get a cart all the time, but but then I could see myself moving into a simulator. But hold on, I want to know about this, like I guess certification, because I just had someone on the podcast. who's in the fitness industry and she was saying a lot of the certification is kinda like bullshit per se. Like I don't know anything about the golf certification. Yeah, it's like what's the process like? Is it s like scrutiny or is it like you've got pretty clear sailing or speaker-1: To write exam, three exams. One is the technical part, one is like they'll ask like a case study, then one is the rules test. When you finish that, you have to go for a playing test. One pro from the one of the teachers, the pro teachers will come play with you. You have to score at a certain point, and then he'll keep watching. What are you doing? And then they certify. It's a it's a it's a really good process. You can't just do speaker-0: Crazy. speaker-1: it. speaker-0: Have you like I I'm looking into the rules of golf. There's a lot of rules. Like I didn't know there's different ways to play golf. I thought it was hit the ball into the hole. And there's like I guess ball play, then there's match play, then there's like there's so many different ways to play golf. And I'm like, whoa, what is going on here? Like and speaker-1: Yeah, see dos. speaker-0: then there's relief and then like you know how many times I hit a foot away from a tree? I'm like, there's relief I can get? Like I I didn't know any of that. Like there's speaker-1: Those are the rules. This is match play, the stroke play, and then the best ball, all those are different types they play. That's that just formed. But the rules are like you know, when the ball is sunk into a ground, half the ball is in, you have free, and you can't move. If if it is not a movable loose stuff around your ball, you can move it. If it is not a loose stuff, you're not supposed to move it. That's how recently one player got a penalty, two stroke penalty, because it was a book he made it clear for his Yeah. So speaker-0: Yeah, brace and did, yeah. speaker-1: these are all the rules you gotta be if you want to play the game you have to play properly. You can't go you when you mark, you have to mark before you ta touch the ball. Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: You can't walk in front of your ball line and all those rules. speaker-0: Try to play pretty fair. There's days where I'm like, I'm learning if I gotta just move it over a foot. Like I'm gonna move it over a foot. I'm not gonna play in tree mulch. I'm sorry. I shouldn't be in tree mulch, but I'm not gonna play in tree mulch. speaker-1: Place that eventually. speaker-0: eventually, right? Yeah. So what's advice you'd give people if they decided at forty, forty-five, fifty, like what advice would you give just to make a speaker-1: When they're forty and forty what speaker-0: To do like a career change or move a country or do something extreme like I don't know why we call it extreme. It it's if it's making you happy, it's not fucking extreme. I'm sorry, it's not extreme. It's thousands and thousands, hundreds of thousands of people have to do that every single day. And like people are like, I'm gonna make an extreme move and like start a new career. No, it's not fucking extreme. It's just it's just a move. It's all it is. You know what I mean? It's not anything more special than the other. Does someone say when they're playing chess and you move the queen? Everyone's like, that's an extreme move. No, it's just a bigger piece. That's all it is. It's literally a bigger piece. You're still just making a move just like your opponent will. So, like, sorry, that kind of bugs me. I don't know. Like that bugs me a little bit. sorry. speaker-1: You answered me already. No, that's that's the right way. Like, you know, if you're 40, 50, whatever you are. If you're pa again, I'm coming back to the same. If you're passionate about something, when you wake up in the morning, you want to do it the whole day. I can't get tired by just sitting, but if I pl yesterday I played 18 volts, came and did two lessons. Whatever I'm I feel young. On the speaker-0: I'm dead after 18 holes. I'm like caught. speaker-1: I'm still in my sixties, right? Yeah. But I didn't feel tired until I finished my lesson. And I came home, I was exhausted. Because that energy level I had is just pure passion towards what I'm doing. If you're moving in your forties or fifties, and if you're really passionate about what you're going to do, go for it. There will be a lot of hurdles, challenges, as I said. You should know how to. Put them away and then keep focusing on your way. That is there there there's no end to it. Like, you know, seventy, eighty, still if you want to feel young and you've got of course you can't do a heavy physical work. Yeah, that is but otherwise speaker-0: Obviously. I understand there's physical limitations and stuff, you know what I mean? But like I like I just wrote a book, right? And people are like, you you had the fuck time to write a book. I'm like, I'm only 40, like relax. Like my life isn't that chaotic, kind of thing, right? so I now looking into golf and especially getting into this episode, and over the past few weeks as I've learned and realizing how much it resonates, I heard this really cool thing where The average golf course is only six inches wide and it's between your ears. speaker-1: That's a nice one. Yeah. That's nice one. speaker-0: Isn't that crazy? And I'm like, holy shit, that's like literally like that is the whole game is in your head. Yeah, absolutely. The whole game is in your head. So, like, I don't know. I when I read that, I was like, why have I not heard this before? But e even with like everyday life, like you hear you've seen those like Ven Zen diagram or Venn diagrams where it's like things you worry about and things that actually happen, and like there's only a small percentage of things that you worry about that only actually happen because Ninety percent of your problems are between your ears. They're in your head. You know what I mean? I'm like, that's so relevant. Like it's true, right? It's a mind game. It's speaker-1: Absolutely. That's mine game. speaker-0: a mind game, right? speaker-1: So you see a after a certain stage, everyone knows how to hit the ball. But some people keep on hitting it right. Some people keep that's because you go and stand. Maybe I would have told you this when you're doing the lesson because I I talk a lot of mind things in during the lesson because that part of it has to keep on growing along with your technique. When you go and tee off a ball, you're already there. There's a fairway. Water here. Trees are here. You align yourself to the fairway. speaker-0: Going to the trees. That's what I'm doing. speaker-1: No, you align already. Stand, look once, okay, your alignment checking, everything is fine. If you swing rightly, it can only go to the fairway. Right? But the moment you stand down, look at the ball, what's running in your mind? Maybe the tree challenge is better than the water challenge. Maybe I'll go a little right because left is too dangerous. Here at least I So you already started thinking negative speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: and giving excuses for you not going to hit it properly. Yeah. This is the problem. This is exactly how once you're here, trust on your swing, trust on your alignment, go for it. It's speaker-0: And it's like speaker-1: easy to say. speaker-0: yeah, it's easier said than done. speaker-1: How do you do it by keep on doing that's what I say? Maybe I don't know. There is another word I say. Learning effort and mistakes. First learn, put the effort to master it, know how to bounce back from mistakes. Assertive play. speaker-0: But that goes back to trusting the process, right? Like, you know how many times day to day, like in a week, I can tell you like I doubt myself with my company. And I'm like, you know what? No, we have a system, we have a process. You know, I know we're waiting for delivery for this job. Maybe I should call them and check. I'm like, no, because they know they will call the office, they'll talk to the girl in the office, she'll report back to everyone and she'll update the homeowners. There's a process to it. So I just gotta learn to trust the process. It's like when you're at a T-Box, you're looking up, you're aiming. Looking down at your ball, it's like, okay, now I'm just gonna trust my swing. Your swing is the things you do in life. Like, you know what I mean? It's kind of like I want to lose weight, right? People are like, well, am I gonna look good by the summer? Or am I actually gonna lose like if you just wake up and trust the process by going to the gym, eating healthy, going for your walks, doing what you have to do, the results will pay off. Yeah. It the results will get there. You just gotta stick on the path. But people start to do the And this way, and that way, and this way, and that and I'm like, Well now you're not gonna get to the destination because you're weaving back and forth so much, right? Like that. So I speaker-1: It's like going to gym. Yeah. First day you go to gym, you feel muscles are tight. You come home, have a shower, it's all loose. Will you stop going next day? speaker-0: Yeah. No. speaker-1: Next day also is the same. You go to the gym, when you finish, wow, nice and tight. Go home and shower, eat fruit, half day is gone. speaker-0: I think the gym is the only thing in life that can give you a preview of your results before you get them. Because you get that little bit of pump and you everyone knows what I'm talking about. You get a little bit of the arm pump after a workout. It's like that's what I could look like in six months? Okay. Yeah, it and literally it's the only thing that actually gives you like a preview of the results. Yeah. You know, like you go and try and get a better job and make more money. Like you don't know what it's like to have money until you actually have money. You're no one's gonna give you money beforehand. Yeah. Right? Like I don't know, I just find The gym is that one thing where it's like you can see the results before you get the results. It's kind of like it's a little bit of motivating. okay, I saw this on the onboarding form. Couldn't skip over it. To be patient, accept mistakes, which I all my guests jump ahead of me. They all jump ahead of me. I don't know. We'll just let why can't we just trust the process? To be patient, accept mistakes, learn from them. Not to get distracted or worried about the hurdles. Learn to forget to forget the past and not worry about the future. Live in the present. Those are his words. Like those are deep, right? And those you pretty much just par I just paraphrase what you just said. But I think this is the one that really made me think about life in golf. Because like to be patient, accept mistakes. On the golf course, you gotta be patient and you gotta accept when you make mistakes. Same thing with life. So you gotta be patient for the results. There's gonna be mistakes along the way. Then not to get distracted or worried about the hurdle. So it's like In life, it's like, well, now I'm going out for dinner with my family. Am I gonna eat like shit and I'm gonna break my diet? It's like don't don't worry about that yet. Same thing with golf. You're looking ahead, it's like, there's a sand trap there. It's like, don't worry about that. Just do your thing. Right? Then you learn to forget the past. So you had a bad shot, or someone pissed you off yesterday. Like, don't let that bother you in the future. And then not to worry about the future. Like it's like, are we gonna be able to get this done tomorrow? It's like, don't worry about tomorrow. speaker-1: You're going to fall in that place, okay? speaker-0: Or yeah, yeah. Or am I gonna land there or just hit your happen? You know what I mean? And then just live in the present. Like you're saying, stand in the tea box, look at the ball, but then going day to day, it's like live in the moment. Like appreciate what you're doing today, kind of thing. Yeah. And like that literally was like perfectly aligned, two columns in my head, golf and life. Yeah. Like I I it's so true. And you I hate to sell golf. Maybe it's a new little thing I'm all excited about and everything, but I'm feeling so many things are relevant to golf and life. Yeah. speaker-1: That's why you keep playing, playing, you don't know you're becoming a good person because this is continuously happening in the form of golf. Accepting coming back next day, because people will talk people who don't do this, they still talk about it. That's the best part. Forget about the last word, play now. But you will be doing the same. speaker-0: Same thing. Same thing. Yeah, no, I I'm bad. Dude, it was a bad shot. Don't worry, you won't get And the next one, I shank one. I'm like, I can't believe that shot. This whole hole is gone. Like, so I'm the same way. speaker-1: But what happened? It gets into your practice in your mind like, you know, I gotta s that's why you take it seriously, playing, but it become a system in your yeah. Like, you know, yeah, I need to be like this, I need to be like this. So you will you will see it You you are doing it in your life as well. Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's the best part. speaker-0: And I I'm pretty good at like when life kind of gets thrown at me. I kind of redirect onto like the path I was on. It's like, okay, this is what I have to get done this week. Something hits a fan on Wednesday, it's like, this week's gone to shit. It's like, no, you know what? It hasn't gone to shit. So you reset if I have to work an extra hour tomorrow or do something late. Yeah. I'm gonna do it, right? and I'm doing the same thing, go like you'd be so proud of me. The other day, sitting there and I sliced one up into the trees. And I'm stuck in the trees. And I see the hole between like nine tree trunks. And I'm like, I could do this. And I'm like, I look down, and they're like 20 feet away from me is an open fairway. I'm like, Ramon would be so mad at me if I shot it. You know, I'm just gonna punch it out. And I just punch one out into the fairway. Birdie on the fucking hole. Yeah. If I did it the other way and I rushed and changed my strategy and everything, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, I would have played ping-pong off all the trees. I would have been seven over, and I would have been like, this is the worst day of my life, and then it would have bugged me the rest of the day. And it's amazing when like you just take a step back and breathe. And I was like, This changed everything. That's perfect. You know what I speaker-1: Perfect. This is the second stage you will be learning. Like how to say escape from the there are different ways of escaping and where I actually I practice that in the driving range. I keep two, three balls in the center. I need to go through this with this height. This is how you escape from the hurdles. speaker-0: Not there yet, okay. I'm still trying to eat. Relax. Relax. speaker-1: The key is you step back and didn't try to overdo it. Okay, this is where I am. I had to get into the right place to play the next shot. That's all it is. Next shot you do it but better. speaker-0: in the be in the beginner's mind there are many possibilities. In the experts there are a few. Do you find that you need a bit more a bit of both mindsets, beginner and expert, to be a coach? beginner and expert. Yeah. Like do you ever feel like you have a student who's like completely lost? It's like complete reset button. It's like, okay, I gotta think like a beginner, like I I gotta like resonate with them on holding a golf club. speaker-1: Yeah. You see if if I don't go to if if I'm going to be an expert and then if if there is a beginner, you said he's struggling, I can't go and give all technical things to him. He's going to go like you don't know what to do. Gotta go down to his level, okay? What's going to improve him to the step one or step two? I can't take him to the like I said, if you have to reach the step ten, you need to go step by step. What is the step one for him? Finding out that is you gotta go into that mindset. speaker-0: Do you find it hard to do that some days? speaker-1: Yes, but you gotta be you you have to play that role. speaker-0: Is there an unteachable student? speaker-1: I won't say unteachable student. That's why my tagline in my website if you see unlock your golfing potential. Everyone has got a golfing potential. You need speaker-0: Some people are just mini putt more than golfing. Okay. speaker-1: Some some people takes a little longer, some people gets it a little faster, but it depends on person to person, but it's possible. Again, impossible is impossible is nothing. speaker-0: Yeah, nothing. Yeah. See, I like that. See how he brings it back? That's a good, that's a good like co host there. and you said there's no finish line. So what's your big picture? There's gotta be like your sky's gotta be the limit, especially moving here at fifty, changing careers, now building up a full time business to teach golf. Like, I couldn't imagine how big you're dreaming. Like, what's your big picture? speaker-1: My big picture is like a step by step. Now I'm in the beginning stage of the coaching. I don't have a dedicated place. I coach in the range. Of course, that is I have a arrangement with him. When it when winter comes, I'm going to coach in a simulator. My next step is now I'm buying a launch monitor going into the database coaching, speaker-0: Okay. speaker-1: which goes into the It won't work well with the beginners, but the intermediary people who are already come to a little stage, the advancement, club path, launch, how the ball flies, where the club path is, club phases, what is the speed of your thing, how to increase the speed without disturbing your body movements and stuff. I'm going into the technical part. I'm doing a club fitting course as well. speaker-0: nice. Yeah. So I need that for my putter. speaker-1: So that's my next step. Step after that, I'll be deciding once I set on that. I have plans, but speaker-0: See where goes. Yeah. Yeah. No, speaker-1: I d I don't talk about that now. speaker-0: not yet. Yeah. All right. So I always ask h like guests two last questions. So the first one is, what's one question you want to be asked? So someone if you're sitting across the table from an idol or someone you look up to or someone, another professional golfer, like what's something you want someone to ask you? Yeah. speaker-1: Someone to ask me. Yeah. Not so many questions like you ask me now. But definitely like more than asking me, like I'm happy anyone discusses a lot of things with me. A discussion brings out a lot of good answers than a question and answer. That's why we are I think we are coming up with a lot of good points here because we are speaker-0: It's a great episode. I I love it. speaker-1: We are discussing things. If I'm going to sit here a question Q and A, then it's not going to bring out so many points. speaker-0: That's what I told you from the beginning. It's not like what's your favorite color, what's your favorite number? Like it's not an episode like that. So speaker-1: When you go when you ask me that, can you come on my po podcast, first thing I do is again, I go back to my homework. I put on a lot of some of your podcasts and see what you're doing. Yeah. Because if you're going to ask questions and they're answering, I'd have said, No, okay, let's do it later another day. But I really like the way you're doing it. That speaker-0: I appreciate that. speaker-1: that's why I said, yeah. speaker-0: And that's why I started this. This was just kinda like a passion thing and people told me like you don't know how to have a conversation or you're not good at holding a conversation and stuff. Because I'm very like because I'm so busy, it's like, what are you doing? Nothing. And I'm gone. Like and I do need to have a conversation. Now I have a little more free time. Like I want to learn about people around me. I want to talk about things that resonate with me. And I'm really big on a personal development journey right now, trying to better myself, look at life, mindset, and then Golf came into my life and I'm like, these two align. And then I started working with you and I'm like, okay, this is just like a perfect pairing, right? Like everything's kinda tiny. So that's why I did it. Yeah. last question. What would you name this episode? And we actually named the episode what you're gonna say. So speaker-1: name the episode. I'll name this as a very valuable life lesson. speaker-0: Very valuable life lessons. You got that T bone? Sir. okay, so typically at the end I give you the open floor. You can put up your website, you can say your website, social media, how people can connect with you, anything you want. It's open camera, it's all yours. speaker-1: Excellent. I think we spoke whatever we want to spoke related to golf. Golf is a fantastic game, as I said, it's a lot of techniques. For the beginners, I will say first learn and then put the effort. Learning and putting effort will take you somewhere, just putting effort is going to really mess up, and then there will be a lot of undoing to do. When you start learning. So if at all you started golf, go. I'm not telling like come to me for lessons. speaker-0: No, you gotta you gotta say come to me for lessons. RK golf.ca speaker-1: You go to any teacher first learn the technique and then go for it. it's really going to be a fantastic sports you can play for a long time in your life. Yesterday the student I t I was teaching was 75 years old. speaker-0: Crazy. speaker-1: He's still trying to better in his game. That's the best part of the sport. Yeah. People at any age they want to get better, get better at g because this is not a half an hour or one hour sport. This is four and a half hours. speaker-0: Yeah. Eight hours. Eight hours. Tell my wife that. It's eight hours. Yeah. speaker-1: Thank you very much. speaker-0: No, that's awesome. So we're gonna have all the social plugs, website, everything in there. Reach out to them if you want golf lesson. You're in the Orangeville area. Honestly, like I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna just sell it as it is. I did, I think after my first lesson, I took four strokes off my game. Second lesson, I took another two strokes off my game. Like I'm down like seven, eight strokes. right out of the gate. And honestly, like the way he teaches, everyone here knows me. They know I'm squirrel brained. Even in this episode, we got off topic like a hundred times between the two of us. And he was able to kind of dial in. So honestly, like if you're getting into golf, I highly recommend him. Highly recommend them as a podcast guest if you guys want them. But that forget noise podcast. Hopefully you guys see how much golf life resonates. Little nuggets in there about how you can slow down. Look at the hurdles, look at the obstacles, don't get over frustrated, don't look at the past, just dial in, live day by day, set your goals, stick to the strategy, and reach your goals. Besides that, forget the noise, stay tuned for another episode next week.