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Credlin | 15 October · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pedo Krandlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the show. Great to have your company.
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Speaker 2: As always, let's get into it. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: on the show. Bad news for Climate Zylan Chris Bowen.
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Speaker 2: Yet another massive renewable project blows out of puff. Tonight
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Speaker 2: we'll talk to locals on different sides of the country,
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Speaker 2: both who are leading communities that are now fighting back against.
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Speaker 3: Labours net zero obsessions.
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Speaker 2: Well, just like the Voice, are we being pushed into
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Speaker 2: a republic by stealth despite the PM dumping his minister
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Speaker 2: for the republic, Well it looks like that's the case.
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Speaker 2: More snubs for the royals ahead of their arrival this weekend,
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Speaker 2: and this legal confusion today over the status of King
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Speaker 2: Charles's Australian title. Plus with the US being forced to
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Speaker 2: become more directly involved in the Middle East conflict, what
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Speaker 2: does this mean for our region particularly even China grows
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Speaker 2: more bellycost by the day. Chris Yulman will join me
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Speaker 2: and out of deaf, Yes of course.
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Speaker 3: He is, but now out of touch too.
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Speaker 2: That's how the Prime Minister looks as he tries to
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Speaker 2: defend the purchase of his new multi million dollar beach house.
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Speaker 4: I wish he and Jodie well, but the homeowners at
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Speaker 4: Australia that I'm worried about it at the moment of people
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Speaker 4: who can't afford their mortgages. People have had twelve interest
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Speaker 4: rating creases under this government.
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Speaker 3: We'll stay with that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how tone death is the Prime minister first,
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Speaker 2: in the middle of a housing crisis, with rents skyrocketing
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Speaker 2: and vacancy rates around one percent of our major cities,
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Speaker 2: he moves to sell his investment property and to make
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Speaker 2: that happen, he kicks out his tenant and just.
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Speaker 5: Looking for a little bit more of a considered approach
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Speaker 5: rather than just be issued a piece of paper from
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Speaker 5: the real estate agent. I'm surprised as this doesn't seem
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Speaker 5: consistent the messaging and the budget this week.
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Speaker 2: Now, with most young people in despair about ever being
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Speaker 2: able to afford a home of their own, at least
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Speaker 2: without the bank of Mum and Dad, there's our Prime
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Speaker 2: minister buying a new four point three million dollar cliff
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Speaker 2: top home on the New South Wales Central Coast, a
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Speaker 2: couple of hours north of Sydney.
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Speaker 3: Now, as a liberal and a liberal who believes an aspiration.
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Speaker 2: Well, good on the prem for adopting the Liberal way.
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Speaker 2: Only this says not what he is someone from Labour's
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Speaker 2: hard left faction wants others to be able.
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Speaker 3: To do with it. Indeed, modern Labour's mantra.
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Speaker 2: Is to hold you back, to punish you for aspiration,
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Speaker 2: to tax you as.
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Speaker 3: Hard as it can.
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Speaker 2: So for me, it's not about the fancy house as
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Speaker 2: much as what it says about Anthony Albansi. Now what
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Speaker 2: screams out here is Albanesi's absolute lack of political judgment
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Speaker 2: and doing all of this right now. We are living
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Speaker 2: through some of the toughest times that Australians have ever faced,
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Speaker 2: struggling to pay their rent, struggling to buy a home,
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Speaker 2: to put food on the table, to pay their power bills.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister doesn't need to throw out his tenant now,
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Speaker 2: He doesn't need to buy this four million dollar plus
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Speaker 2: trophy home now. He doesn't need to make himself the
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Speaker 2: story now. But the fact that he does it all
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Speaker 2: while leaving rent free and his taxpayer funded mansions at
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Speaker 2: a time when everyday Australians are struggling as they are, well,
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Speaker 2: that speaks volumes about his grasp on political reality. Labor
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Speaker 2: are in the fight of their lives to survive after
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Speaker 2: just one term, and this bloke the West is soon
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Speaker 2: to become a coast.
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Speaker 3: Well, he just doesn't get it. He's leading a.
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Speaker 2: Government that's now fallen behind in news poll, it's likely
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Speaker 2: to be in minority after the next election, with no
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Speaker 2: clear agenda other than to spend more of someone else's money,
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Speaker 2: and instead of focusing on running the country and making
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Speaker 2: a difference, he looks like he's focused on his retirement lifestyle.
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Speaker 3: Now. It's the obvious question, isn't it that.
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Speaker 2: No amount of Prime minister or bluster can quite disspell Well.
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Speaker 6: Jody and I are getting married, as is known, and
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Speaker 6: I'm pleased about that. And JODI's a Coastie, She's a
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Speaker 6: proud Coastie. When your relationship changes, your life changes, and
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Speaker 6: you make decisions.
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Speaker 2: Then there's a voice, you know, committed to it in full.
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Speaker 2: These very first public utterances after becoming Prime Minister, well,
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Speaker 2: apart from staying in office, the voice is about the
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Speaker 2: only public policy issue that's really engaged Anthony Albanezi, and
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Speaker 2: he's never really regained mojo after its defeat and as
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Speaker 2: anniversary yesterday, it could neither express regret and what turned
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Speaker 2: out to be a pointless crusade. It couldn't articulate an
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Speaker 2: alternative way forward for Indigenous Australians, but nor could he
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Speaker 2: really empathize with the voices still mournful advocates. Now it's
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Speaker 2: little wonder as one regular guest, den As Shanahan wrote
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Speaker 2: on the weekend, that his colleagues are starting to question
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Speaker 2: his judgment, his stamina, and his commitment. This is a
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Speaker 2: PM who plainly enjoys the trappings of office, the overseas trips,
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Speaker 2: the VIP invitations to concerts and sporting events, but is
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Speaker 2: rarely across the detail of what his government's doing. It
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Speaker 2: doesn't seem to exercise much control over his ministers, and
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Speaker 2: he doesn't seem to have any plan of the future
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Speaker 2: of the country and the government. But he has plenty
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Speaker 2: of time to make these multi million dollar personal investments.
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Speaker 2: What kind of look is that our country.
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Speaker 3: Is drifting backwards?
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Speaker 2: GDP per person's been declining for six successive quarters. Our
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Speaker 2: productivity is back to where it was five years ago,
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Speaker 2: when the industries that we rely on to pay our
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Speaker 2: way in the world are regarded as climate killers. By
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Speaker 2: his government, and we're in the midst of a so
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Speaker 2: called energy transition that's delivering higher and higher prices plus the.
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Speaker 3: Likelihood of power blackouts.
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Speaker 2: Look overseas, the wider world has never been more dangerous
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Speaker 2: in eight decades. The Russian dictators wearing down the Ukrainians,
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Speaker 2: the Israelis are under deadly threat from Iran and others,
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Speaker 2: and Iran of course on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons,
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Speaker 2: and in China or they've become more intimidatory than ever before, particularly.
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Speaker 3: This sprinkmanship around Taiwan.
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Speaker 2: You could say that all of this might be fixed
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Speaker 2: with an election of a much better government. Sure if
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Speaker 2: only economic self harm, military neglect, and cultural self abasement
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Speaker 2: were so easily fixed. But nothing much is going to
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Speaker 2: improve the Prime Minister, who was probably never really up
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Speaker 2: to the job, who's rarely given it the twenty four
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Speaker 2: to seven focus it needs, who's either in the process
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Speaker 2: of checking himself out, or who's totally oblivious to the
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Speaker 2: impact of his own actions and inactions on the wider
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Speaker 2: public because he's only ever lived in a student activist,
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Speaker 2: lefty bubble. This is a government that says it's concerned
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Speaker 2: about housing affordability, but its leader, mister clifftop mansion. Well,
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Speaker 2: he can seemingly bankroll a four million dollar plus holiday home,
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Speaker 2: and honestly he thinks this is okay. Right now, he
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Speaker 2: thinks this is okay. He will think that he can
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Speaker 2: just trot out that line growing up in a Housing Commission
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Speaker 2: home with his mom on welfare to smooth it all over.
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Speaker 3: But here's the reality.
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Speaker 2: Albow's now lived out of that Housing Commission house longer
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Speaker 2: than he's ever lived in it, and frankly, people struggling
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Speaker 2: now are sick of the way he uses that story
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Speaker 2: to try and show empathy when it's what he does
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Speaker 2: in the biggest job at the biggest desk in the
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Speaker 2: country that matters. Show people some empathy, now, Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: When you've got all the leavers, you have to help
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Speaker 2: them rather than go on and on and on and
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Speaker 2: on again about your mum and her home. The issue
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Speaker 2: here is negative Geary. Indeed, the fact that the Treasurer
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Speaker 2: plainly wants to fiddle with negative Geary and the capital
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Speaker 2: gains tax rules is that the very reason he's buying
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Speaker 2: and selling now is this all because he wants to
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Speaker 2: make the most of the rules before he changes them
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Speaker 2: or is he just entirely oblivious to the optics of
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Speaker 2: his actions. It's hard to imagine past pms more at
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Speaker 2: tune to the public mood, Bob Hawk or a John Howard,
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Speaker 2: let's say, making unforced errors like this. Certainly not in
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Speaker 2: their first term. As I said, Tony Abbott didn't even
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Speaker 2: get rent for the home he wasn't living in when
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Speaker 2: he was at Kirabilly House. But it's a sign of
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Speaker 2: the sad decline in our public life that this is
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Speaker 2: who leads our country. I can tell you, I can imagine
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Speaker 2: what the marginal seat labor backbenches are saying tonight. Let's
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Speaker 2: said de Cara. Now for the headlines Sky in the
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Speaker 2: political reporter Olivia Caisley.
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Speaker 7: Good evening, the declining use of cash and rise of
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Speaker 7: electronic payments means more and more Australians are being slugged
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Speaker 7: with pesky surcharges, even if they're paying with their own money.
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Speaker 3: We want to see what we can do to crack
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Speaker 3: down on that.
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Speaker 1: We are prepared to ban these surcharges on debit cards.
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Speaker 6: And a debit card is taking money directly from people's accounts,
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Speaker 6: that is their money, and there shouldn't be surch charges
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Speaker 6: on it.
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Speaker 7: While major retailers usually don't charge extra, small businesses are
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Speaker 7: often forced to pass on the cost. The federal government
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Speaker 7: says it's prepared to scrap those fees from January one,
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty six, amid a cost of living crunch. The
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Speaker 7: government wants to show ordinary Aussies it's trying to help,
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Speaker 7: but the opposition says the plan lacks substance.
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Speaker 4: It's not an announcement, it's just that they're looking at
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Speaker 4: it and it could come in in twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 4: Australian families need help now from this government. This is
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Speaker 4: actually planned for a plan. I mean this Prime Minister
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Speaker 4: always promises but never delivers.
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Speaker 7: Taiwan says it's staying on guard. After China finished a
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Speaker 7: day of military exercises around the island, Canberra has joined
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Speaker 7: the United States and Europe in condemning China's military encirclement.
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Speaker 7: Yok's person for Foreign Minister, Penny Wong, says Australia urged
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Speaker 7: Beijing to restrain from actions that could escalate what is
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Speaker 7: widely considered one of the world's most dangerous flash points,
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Speaker 7: but Beijing says other nations should stay out of it.
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Speaker 8: Taiwan is part of China. The Taiwan issue is China's
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Speaker 8: internal affairs that brooks no foreign interference. If the US
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Speaker 8: side really cares about peace and stability in the Taiwan
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Speaker 8: straight and regional prosperity, it should abide by the One
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Speaker 8: China principle.
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Speaker 2: All right, For all all those headlines and more, I'm
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Speaker 2: joining now Byska News critical lititor Andrew Clanelle will mate.
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Speaker 2: Great to see you, so help me out here. You're
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Speaker 2: a bit of a strategist. We're sliding in the polls
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Speaker 2: and it's been that way for over a year.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: You go out there and say you haven't lost a
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Speaker 2: news poll until you do, have a listen.
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Speaker 6: I'm very focused on continuing to lead a majority government.
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Speaker 9: There are obviously news polls where you're doing better than
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Speaker 9: other times and others where you're doing less well.
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Speaker 2: We're not on the pulse because what we're focused on
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Speaker 2: is cost of living for ordinary Australian.
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Speaker 3: We're focused, we're doing the right thing.
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Speaker 2: It's a very close it's a very close pole. You know,
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Speaker 2: people are bleeding on cost of living. We've got a
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Speaker 2: housing crisis. And then you go off and spend four
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Speaker 2: and a half million dollars on a cliff top mansion
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Speaker 2: that would be beyond the dreams of most people. You
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Speaker 2: do it just before an election when you're going to
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Speaker 2: have to go out there and say the voters.
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Speaker 3: I get it. I know you're doing it tough, but
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Speaker 3: I get it now.
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Speaker 2: I've set in a lot of focus groups Andrew, and
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Speaker 2: it's not always the big stuff that cuts through. How
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Speaker 2: does he spin this away?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's whether he can get away with it.
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Speaker 1: So there'll be some people who defend the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 1: say he's worked hard and come from modest background. Talk
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Speaker 1: about ordinary people here, Peter, because I've heard that a
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Speaker 1: bit today, and why shouldn't he have a retirement home
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Speaker 1: with his bride. But a lot of Australians also will say,
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Speaker 1: come on mate, you're taking the because we're all struggling here.
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Speaker 1: You say you're going to do things about cost living,
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Speaker 1: say you're going to do things about housing. Couldn't you
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Speaker 1: wait until you finish in Parliament? At least you're rubbing
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Speaker 1: our noses in it. And you're not the man of
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Speaker 1: the people, the man representing the poor that you said
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Speaker 1: you were. But the question is how far does it
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Speaker 1: resonate and does it result in the pole dip? Does
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Speaker 1: it become a Hawaii type thing? That Morrison, that's what
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Speaker 1: I mean for example, And I agree.
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Speaker 3: That I agree with you.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand that things can resonate.
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Speaker 3: But to him, I'm all for aspiration. I'm all for aspiration.
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Speaker 2: I come from a pretty modest background, and certainly my
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Speaker 2: dad was way more modest than my circumstances. So I
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Speaker 2: say good on him, right, Absolutely good on him. But
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Speaker 2: he doesn't need to do it now. He's not under
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Speaker 2: housing stress. He's got a taxpayer fund for two mansions,
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Speaker 2: he's got other properties. He's selling one to buy this one.
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Speaker 2: Presumably that's the transaction, or certainly what it looks like.
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Speaker 2: But he doesn't have to do it right now, within
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Speaker 2: months of an election. So can't he see that this
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Speaker 2: is a problem, not that he's buying it, but that
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Speaker 2: he's buying it right now.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's a problem too internally in terms of how
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Speaker 1: serious he is about serving an entire second term. So
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Speaker 1: it raises a whole lot of issues. Look, I break
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Speaker 1: this story on sky news dot com. Do you at
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Speaker 1: about seven thirty this morning? And when I first got
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Speaker 1: the tip on this. It was one of those which
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Speaker 1: was is this too good to be true a story
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Speaker 1: because it didn't make any sense. The bit of it
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Speaker 1: that totally made sense to me was that I knew
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Speaker 1: that his partner Jodi, who I think has been a
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Speaker 1: big force in this. Let's face it came from the
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Speaker 1: Central Coast. They frequently spend time in the Central Coast,
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Speaker 1: our entire families there. I'm sympathetic to all that. But
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Speaker 1: there's another argument that he got. You know, I know
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Speaker 1: it sounds ridiculous to say a cheap price, but a
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Speaker 1: cheaper price with the four point three million because interest
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Speaker 1: rates are up and he can be blamed for the
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Speaker 1: stewardship of the economy, so it's almost like he's taking
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Speaker 1: advantage of that to pay less than he might pay
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Speaker 1: because this originally was four point sixty five and it's
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Speaker 1: last sale. So you know, I've seen comments from John
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Speaker 1: McCarthy Start Agents saying in Sydney that had cost twenty
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Speaker 1: one me and that's true. It is out of reach
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Speaker 1: of most Australians and it does make it look like
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Speaker 1: you're out of touch. So the question for you, Peter,
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Speaker 1: if I can put you on the spot. And I
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Speaker 1: mentioned this a couple of times. Today. You come up
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Speaker 1: with that monica for Malcolm Turnbull, mister Harposide mansion. What's
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Speaker 1: your monica on this one?
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Speaker 3: Well, I reckon it's.
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Speaker 2: Mister cliptop mansion, you know, or no multi billion dollar
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Speaker 2: beach house.
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Speaker 3: I mean, most people would have to win lotto.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure that ain't begrudging, but most people would have
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Speaker 2: to win lotto to even imagine putting their feet under
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Speaker 2: that bed. You know, I'm moving in there and using
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Speaker 2: that bathroom. They can't fathom that, you know, I deliberately,
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Speaker 2: at least once a week get in my car and
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Speaker 2: go out to a marginal seat under one to three
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Speaker 2: or supermarket. I go into the real estate agent. I
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Speaker 2: look at the prices of rents in the window. I
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Speaker 2: want to get a feel like I used to win politics,
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Speaker 2: and I want to sit behind a desk. I want
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Speaker 2: to get out there in the key marginals, at least
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Speaker 2: in and around Melbourne. And people are bleeding. Andrew, you know,
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Speaker 2: even to talk about a home worth that much shows
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Speaker 2: that you and I are a long way away from
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Speaker 2: the real world. But this is the PM on the
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Speaker 2: cusp of an election. So here's one for you. What
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Speaker 2: do you reckon his colleagues are saying? What are his
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Speaker 2: colleagues saying to you about this? Because if I'm a
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Speaker 2: back bench marginal seaholder in the fight of my life,
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be happy with him tonight.
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Speaker 1: Well, if you Gordon Read and Robinson, he's got a
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Speaker 1: two percent margin in that particular seat. And I don't
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Speaker 1: think the neighbors of mister Albanisi in that, you know,
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Speaker 1: if that sale goes through, contracts have been exchanged, but
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Speaker 1: he's waiting on the sale of the other property, but
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Speaker 1: it looks like it will go through. I don't think
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Speaker 1: the neighbors would be labor voters. Put it that way.
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Speaker 1: Someone actually pointed out to me today Bob Hawk, before
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Speaker 1: he got rolled nine to ninety one, bought his house
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Speaker 1: in Northbridge. So I thought that was interesting. It just
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Speaker 1: it sort of goes to where you're at mentally as well,
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Speaker 1: in terms of thinking, I haven't got long left and
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Speaker 1: that's the perception of it. I think it's an accurate perception,
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Speaker 1: even if it's your subconscious doing it. The thought is
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Speaker 1: you should be focused on the job, as John Howard was,
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Speaker 1: and worry about your personal circumstances later, maybe fare it
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Speaker 1: away some money you don't pay for much as Prime minister.
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Speaker 1: Let's face it, but I guess the new romantic partnership
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Speaker 1: put a different perspective on the way he was looking
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Speaker 1: at things ahead of the wedding. I really think that
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Speaker 1: must have played in terms of the backbenches. Well, the
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Speaker 1: word judgment was used to me this afternoon. Most of
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Speaker 1: them are keeping their heads down, I have to say,
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Speaker 1: as they have for the whole of the term. Really,
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Speaker 1: but it was and even this person initially defended it
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Speaker 1: for quite a while but then did use the term judgment.
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Speaker 1: And I think that becomes the issue as much as
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Speaker 1: anything is. You say, well, you didn't have good judgment
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Speaker 1: on the voice. You haven't always had good judgment on
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Speaker 1: the way forward and how to sell things. The region
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Speaker 1: of the Stage three tax cuts, which was popular, was
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Speaker 1: kind of Jim's thing that you adopted. So where's your
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Speaker 1: judgment to get us into majority government again? I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think most of them have given up on that.
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Speaker 1: So they say, the backbenchers say, where's your judgment to
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Speaker 1: get you even into minority government again? And that's why
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Speaker 1: they'll they'll be nervous people they see the poles of backbenches,
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Speaker 1: they go, we're in a bit of strife. And then
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Speaker 1: this can come as a bit of a hammer blow
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Speaker 1: to you, frankly, And this is where I get back
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Speaker 1: to It really comes about the next Pole News poll
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Speaker 1: and can he get away with it? And then can
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Speaker 1: he get away with it during the campaign, because I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you what, Peter Dutton, who's got a bit of
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Speaker 1: a wealth himself, he's playing a smart game. He's not
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Speaker 1: being critical of it, but he's saying what about all
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Speaker 1: the other homeowners?
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Speaker 3: But the Green he doesn't need to.
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Speaker 1: The Greens could just open the shoulders right, and they're
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Speaker 1: the ones who've been taking a large slice of the
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Speaker 1: primary vote of labor for about five to seven years.
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Speaker 3: Correct opened the door for the Greens.
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Speaker 1: And they're pushed young people. What are young people who
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Speaker 1: are never even going to be able to afford a
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Speaker 1: home in a city like Sydney going to make of this?
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to make much of it
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Speaker 1: at all.
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Speaker 2: No, it's about the Greens, it's not about the Libs.
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Speaker 2: And Dunton doesn't need to open his mouth on this
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Speaker 2: at all. When those pictures tell a thousand stories. Hundreds
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Speaker 2: of people have sent that email that texted it to me,
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Speaker 2: the fancy shots, all of that. I think that's where
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Speaker 2: I think the colleagues are like me saying, where the
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Speaker 2: hexture judgment?
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Speaker 3: Mate? Where's the judgment from your office? Because you don't just.
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Speaker 2: Buy a house in a nanosecond on the phone. So
19:42
Speaker 2: he's had the time. And I couldn't scratch myself when
19:45
Speaker 2: I worked for a prime minister, let alone be a
19:47
Speaker 2: prime minister. Where's he at the time to do the
19:49
Speaker 2: housing inspections, to turf out the tenant, to do all
19:52
Speaker 2: the Section thirty twos, to talk to the agents, to
19:54
Speaker 2: talk to the bank.
19:55
Speaker 3: I mean, jeez, Luise, well with issues out of gard.
20:01
Speaker 1: He has a partner, she has a partner. The partner
20:03
Speaker 1: can be.
20:04
Speaker 2: Sure he has a saying that okay, both of them
20:08
Speaker 2: will do something like this when it's unless he thinks
20:10
Speaker 2: four and a half million dollars a spare change, mate,
20:13
Speaker 2: and he's happy to give her the credit card and
20:14
Speaker 2: the way she goes, But he has to talk to
20:16
Speaker 2: the bank.
20:16
Speaker 3: He has to furnish all of his records like everybody else.
20:19
Speaker 2: So again I go to the point, all of these things,
20:23
Speaker 2: these fires are burning in his government. They continually go
20:27
Speaker 2: ahead doing the same things, expecting a different outcome.
20:31
Speaker 3: And as I said to KOs Samaras last night, they.
20:34
Speaker 2: Are now in a hard trend. The trend is turning
20:37
Speaker 2: into a spiral. But it doesn't look like anyone internally
20:42
Speaker 2: is trying to avert course. It looks like they're headed
20:44
Speaker 2: towards a brick wall, and they're all saying, doesn't matter,
20:46
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.
20:47
Speaker 3: The air bag is going to save this. Well, I
20:49
Speaker 3: don't reckon that's.
20:49
Speaker 1: Right, what's going to save them? Sorry, I just didn't
20:53
Speaker 1: catch that. The airbag, the air bag, the air bag. Well,
20:57
Speaker 1: the air bag's the rate cut, isn't it. That's what
21:00
Speaker 1: they're hoping for. They've got one strategy, and that's the
21:03
Speaker 1: hope that Michelle Bullock plays ball at the moment. Anyway,
21:06
Speaker 1: I mean, this might develop. They say they have a
21:08
Speaker 1: second term agenda. We'll see, but that's how that's my
21:11
Speaker 1: rate at the moment.
21:14
Speaker 2: I believe they're great to talk to you, Andrew, I
21:17
Speaker 2: tell you I don't want to be in the city
21:18
Speaker 2: market here.
21:18
Speaker 3: Four and a half million dollars is a goodbye goodness
21:21
Speaker 3: me all right?
21:23
Speaker 2: Just days of course, until King Charles and Queen Camella
21:26
Speaker 2: touched down. In Australia, there's a bit of confusion over
21:29
Speaker 2: the legal status of our monarch's Australian title. There's also
21:33
Speaker 2: controversy with almost all of our state and territory leaders
21:37
Speaker 2: declining an audience with the royals for more on this.
21:40
Speaker 3: I'm joined now with the National Convener of.
21:42
Speaker 2: The Australians for a Constitutional Monarchy, Professor David Flint.
21:45
Speaker 3: Professor Flint, thank you for your time.
21:48
Speaker 2: I'll start, if we can first with this legal ambiguity,
21:52
Speaker 2: so called legal ambiguity about the King's title. Their reports
21:56
Speaker 2: the proclamation of his title was incorrectly styled in Australia
22:01
Speaker 2: and that it's inconsistent with other territories. And originally the
22:06
Speaker 2: government was told that legislation was needed to remediate this.
22:09
Speaker 2: Then there's reports today that they don't need or may
22:12
Speaker 2: not need this legislation. Give us your your advice.
22:16
Speaker 10: Here, well, I doubt if they need legislation, but it
22:21
Speaker 10: would be nice to have it. They did make a
22:24
Speaker 10: slight error when they rushed it through, as they probably did.
22:29
Speaker 10: They repeat the word king twice. Is King Charles the
22:33
Speaker 10: third and then King Comma King, which is not done.
22:37
Speaker 10: They should have said Charles the third King. But what
22:40
Speaker 10: does that matter. It's not that important, though you would
22:43
Speaker 10: think that that would be done properly. This title that
22:47
Speaker 10: King of Australia is usually attributed to GoF Whitlam, but
22:51
Speaker 10: it wasn't Golf Whitlams. It was Menzies Mensis designed it.
22:56
Speaker 10: But he had it with King of the United Kingdom
22:59
Speaker 10: of Great Britain in the Northern Ireland, and God merely
23:02
Speaker 10: took out the reference to Britain and Northern Ireland. But
23:08
Speaker 10: I doubt that it's a serious matter. But it would
23:10
Speaker 10: be nice to have it consistent, so that you don't
23:14
Speaker 10: repeat the word king twice. It's a little strange, but
23:18
Speaker 10: in no way to affect the legality of his being
23:22
Speaker 10: King of Australia.
23:25
Speaker 3: I don't think I.
23:26
Speaker 2: Trust the government to put through any legislation and not
23:29
Speaker 2: think there are other hooks in it in relation to
23:32
Speaker 2: the crown in this country. What do you make the
23:35
Speaker 2: Prime minister just old digress for a moment. The Prime
23:37
Speaker 2: Minister at the last reshuffle dumped this idea of having
23:40
Speaker 2: a minister for a republic. I think after the voice
23:43
Speaker 2: he realized he was going to get nowhere, so he
23:46
Speaker 2: tidied that up.
23:47
Speaker 3: It's now gone.
23:48
Speaker 2: But you're still getting a republic by stealth almost. We've
23:51
Speaker 2: got the premiers of Victoria, New South Wales, Tasmania, a Queensland,
23:56
Speaker 2: South Australia and w WA all snubby the King. They're
24:03
Speaker 2: not attending this welcome reception for him on Monday. They're
24:06
Speaker 2: all saying they've got other priorities. Now, a lot of
24:09
Speaker 2: people who watch this show they think this is.
24:10
Speaker 3: A terrible look.
24:12
Speaker 2: They say they don't want a republic. They like our
24:15
Speaker 2: current arrangements and they expect the government we elect to
24:20
Speaker 2: treat them with respect.
24:24
Speaker 10: Well, it does look like infantile republicanism, as was mister
24:28
Speaker 10: Men's when he turned off the opera house lights which
24:31
Speaker 10: you were going to go on at the time of
24:32
Speaker 10: the coronation. I suspect there's pressure within the Labor Party
24:36
Speaker 10: from of the more deranged Republicans for something to be
24:40
Speaker 10: done to show that there's still life in something which
24:43
Speaker 10: is very much dead, that is this politician's republic. Now,
24:48
Speaker 10: all of these premiers are extraordinarily privileged in the whole
24:52
Speaker 10: Commonwealth of Nations. No other state leaders leaders at the
24:57
Speaker 10: state level, not the national level, have the to give
25:01
Speaker 10: advice directly to the King, and we have that under
25:03
Speaker 10: the Australia Actor, and they ought to respect that, and
25:06
Speaker 10: they ought to respect the fact that they are in
25:09
Speaker 10: allegiance to the Crown. Whether they like it or not,
25:12
Speaker 10: whether they have avoided actually swearing allegiance, legally, they are
25:17
Speaker 10: in allegiance to the Crown and they should respect the
25:20
Speaker 10: system as it is. Argue for change if they will.
25:25
Speaker 10: But that's been going on so long, you know, it's
25:29
Speaker 10: twenty five years, just twenty five years since the Australian
25:33
Speaker 10: people affirmed their loyalty to the Crown and the referendum.
25:40
Speaker 2: What do you make of the Saul loses The Australians
25:43
Speaker 2: for a Constitutus, Australian's Irm, Australian Republican movement. They've got
25:48
Speaker 2: a campaign they're calling this Childs's farewell tour. The bloke
25:53
Speaker 2: is battling through cancer treatment. We obviously wish his Majesty
25:58
Speaker 2: all the very best to cover and go onlike his
26:02
Speaker 2: mother and serve us for a long time. But to
26:06
Speaker 2: call it the farewell tour, I think that's pretty rank.
26:12
Speaker 10: Again, it's really infantile and it's so rude and it's
26:16
Speaker 10: so unnecessary. The King actually responded to their letter asking
26:22
Speaker 10: for an audience and pointed out what they should know,
26:25
Speaker 10: and I hope they know this. The question of our
26:29
Speaker 10: constitutional arrangements is for the King's ministers in Australia, and ultimately,
26:35
Speaker 10: if there's going to be a change, it's for the
26:37
Speaker 10: Australian people, because fortunately, our constitution, unlike that of Barbados,
26:43
Speaker 10: actually requires that the people agree to what the politicians
26:47
Speaker 10: want and it eventually comes to the Australian people. The
26:51
Speaker 10: King has made that very clear. The Queen, the late Queen,
26:55
Speaker 10: made that very clear. Can't they understand that there's no
26:59
Speaker 10: advicevantage in being so petty to a man who has
27:03
Speaker 10: gone to great lengths to get here. He's obviously not well.
27:07
Speaker 10: He suspended his treatment, which seems to be going on
27:10
Speaker 10: for a long time. He's going to be very tired
27:13
Speaker 10: from this, but he's made a point of coming here
27:16
Speaker 10: because he likes this country and he does his job.
27:20
Speaker 10: One thing they ought to also remember, we don't pay
27:25
Speaker 10: the King, the Queen, members of the royal family. We
27:28
Speaker 10: don't pay them any money. There's no golden handshapes, there's
27:32
Speaker 10: no special politician superannuation. They do this because they love
27:38
Speaker 10: their job and they do what we want them to do.
27:43
Speaker 2: And I believe in public service, which I think sadly
27:46
Speaker 2: not enough politicians or senior leaders of whatever you'll do,
27:50
Speaker 2: Professor David Flint.
27:51
Speaker 3: Thank you. You know what's sort of a line on there.
27:55
Speaker 2: Absolutely don't want a republic or an ark of the
27:57
Speaker 2: break opposite side of the country will go.
28:00
Speaker 3: But exactly the same.
28:01
Speaker 2: Concerns about massive wind farm proposals being foisted upon regional communities,
28:07
Speaker 2: plus a bit later on, can we rely on the
28:10
Speaker 2: US in our region if they become more directly involved
28:13
Speaker 2: as it seems is happening right now in the Middle East.
28:16
Speaker 2: Things have really gone up a notch today. Chris Yulman
28:19
Speaker 2: with Moore, welcome back well a belly coast China. The
28:27
Speaker 2: US being dragged further into the Middle East.
28:30
Speaker 3: What's it mean for.
28:31
Speaker 2: Us and how we defend ourselves. But first, yet another
28:35
Speaker 2: blows today to Chris Bowen's floundering net zero agenda, with
28:39
Speaker 2: a major offshore wind company officially abandoning plans for a
28:44
Speaker 2: massive wind farm off the coast of the Ill of Warra,
28:47
Speaker 2: which is south of Sydney, with the zone extending as
28:49
Speaker 2: far as the end of the Royal National Park near Cronulla.
28:53
Speaker 2: Now you'll recall this project was already highly contentious in
28:56
Speaker 2: the area. Many people were opposed to it. Details are
29:01
Speaker 2: scarce as to what happens next, but the government's refusing
29:04
Speaker 2: to confirm if they have other bidders in the mix,
29:07
Speaker 2: so it's still a little unclear. Joining me now, one
29:11
Speaker 2: of the Illawarra locals who stood against this project, Alex
29:14
Speaker 2: O'Brien from the group Responsible Future from day one is
29:18
Speaker 2: fort it.
29:18
Speaker 3: Alex joins me. Now, well, welcome to the show. Alex.
29:22
Speaker 2: I got to say it's pretty embarrassing for the Minister
29:25
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen, given he has touted this as a huge
29:29
Speaker 2: part of his renewables rollout.
29:33
Speaker 11: That's right, and look, you know it's when you're looking
29:36
Speaker 11: at these developers. Equinor is one of the largest developers
29:41
Speaker 11: of offshore wind and the largest floating offshore wind developer
29:46
Speaker 11: and operator. They've partnered with ocean X, who are Australia's
29:51
Speaker 11: leading a developer in this space. So to have both
29:55
Speaker 11: of them quietly pull away from the Illawarra approach Cronulla
30:00
Speaker 11: project is raising a few questions about why, why all
30:06
Speaker 11: of a sudden have they pulled out? Is it because
30:09
Speaker 11: of what we've been talking about. It doesn't make economic sense,
30:14
Speaker 11: it's bad for the environment, and it just doesn't stack up.
30:21
Speaker 2: I guess my question is is this the end of
30:24
Speaker 2: them for this project? Is it go quiet before the election?
30:30
Speaker 2: Are they likely to come back after the election. There's
30:32
Speaker 2: a lot of marginal seats up and down that seaboard.
30:36
Speaker 2: Do you think another company might put themselves forward in
30:39
Speaker 2: a bit What do you think is going to happen next?
30:41
Speaker 11: Look, the other main proponent was Blue Flight, so they
30:45
Speaker 11: were the same company that released this submission before the
30:50
Speaker 11: consultation process ended, but even before a zion was declared.
30:55
Speaker 11: So questions were raised in November last year about why
30:58
Speaker 11: a company was sure that this zone was going ahead,
31:02
Speaker 11: that they had already conducted, you know, what seemed like
31:06
Speaker 11: a couple of years worth of impact studies. So you know,
31:09
Speaker 11: that's you know, again revealing a lot of questions. But
31:13
Speaker 11: you know, it's time that we take the politics out
31:16
Speaker 11: of this. We know there are some marginal seats with
31:19
Speaker 11: Gilmour and even the margin of Whitlam has been whittled
31:23
Speaker 11: down you know, quite significantly, so we appreciate this as
31:26
Speaker 11: a sensitive topic for the Labor government. But delaying any
31:32
Speaker 11: revealing who the developers are, you know, before an election,
31:37
Speaker 11: I don't think that's the right strategy. This community was
31:40
Speaker 11: upset by the lack of transparency, the lack of consultation.
31:45
Speaker 11: That is why this community strongly opposed. Sixty five percent
31:49
Speaker 11: of the community opposed this project. There's been the equivalent
31:53
Speaker 11: of thirty thousand petitions and submissions. This community has been
31:58
Speaker 11: what we feel, treated poorly. But we're not going to
32:02
Speaker 11: back down for a strong community and we do not
32:06
Speaker 11: see ocean cks and equinor pulling out as the end
32:09
Speaker 11: of the story, and that is why we will keep
32:11
Speaker 11: fighting this project.
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Speaker 2: Well, you're lesson to communities around the country, Alex, well done,
32:17
Speaker 2: keep it the fight, Stay in touch please, I know a.
32:20
Speaker 3: Lot of people have raised Illawarra with me and E'ra Warrior.
32:23
Speaker 3: Well done, well done.
32:25
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to another area also worried about the
32:30
Speaker 2: imposition of renewables rollouts. We'll go from the Illawarra now
32:33
Speaker 2: across the country to the community of Augusta. This is
32:36
Speaker 2: the Southwest Coast or West Australia. They're pushing back there
32:40
Speaker 2: on a massive wind farm proposal in their backyard. There's
32:44
Speaker 2: concern these ones. Here are the plans by Synergy Energy,
32:47
Speaker 2: which is owned by the WA state government, to erect
32:51
Speaker 2: thirty turbine wind farm in what is prime agricultural land
32:56
Speaker 2: also a biodiversity hotspot. Two locals who are minding answers
33:00
Speaker 2: about the project, local cattle farmers, Scott Baxter and Gary
33:05
Speaker 2: Buller or Gary Buller. Beg your pardon, Scott and Gary,
33:08
Speaker 2: Welcome to the program.
33:09
Speaker 3: Scott.
33:10
Speaker 2: We're just talking to a blokeover the Yellow Warra who
33:12
Speaker 2: has fought back hard and won at least this far
33:16
Speaker 2: in relations post there.
33:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having us.
33:20
Speaker 2: Talk to me about I'm thrilled to have you on
33:23
Speaker 2: the show. Talk to me about the lack of consultation
33:26
Speaker 2: you've had. I mean this is a state government owned entity,
33:30
Speaker 2: Synergy Energy, talk to me about consultation.
33:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
33:41
Speaker 9: Thanks, it's has been nowhere near enough.
33:47
Speaker 3: Keep going, all right, they've gone. We got a quick break.
33:55
Speaker 3: We'll come back. We'll sort that technical issue out in
33:57
Speaker 3: the break. I'll bring you that chat might be money.
34:05
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
34:06
Speaker 2: We'll head back to Wa to Augusta and our two
34:08
Speaker 2: cattle farmers and talk renewables in a moment. But first
34:12
Speaker 2: news yesterday the United States is sending an advanced anti
34:15
Speaker 2: missile system to Israel, along with American troops to operate it. Well,
34:19
Speaker 2: that says it's clear America is taking a more direct
34:22
Speaker 2: approach in the Middle East.
34:23
Speaker 3: Now, I've got no problems with this.
34:25
Speaker 2: I wish our government was stronger to it at support
34:28
Speaker 2: of Israel, but ultimately it'll have massive ramifications not just
34:32
Speaker 2: for the Middle East, but the whole geopolitical landscape, which
34:36
Speaker 2: is becoming more fraught by the day, particularly our region.
34:40
Speaker 2: What I mean now, Sky is contributor Chris Yelman. Chris,
34:43
Speaker 2: we'll get to the broad implications in a moment and
34:46
Speaker 2: all of this, But the US deploying troops into this region,
34:50
Speaker 2: particularly given things with Irana less of a fight now
34:57
Speaker 2: via proxies far more direct between the two two countries.
35:01
Speaker 3: Give us your sense of how things are going to
35:02
Speaker 3: play out, Well.
35:04
Speaker 12: Peter, the United States is now actively involved in another
35:07
Speaker 12: war in the Middle East. It has two aircraft carriers there,
35:11
Speaker 12: it's got a nuclear submarine there. It was already engaged
35:14
Speaker 12: in the defense of Israel. The last time Iran sent
35:17
Speaker 12: missiles in that direction. Israel can't defend itself without the
35:20
Speaker 12: United States. Now we've got a bad missile system. There
35:23
Speaker 12: a one hundred boots on the ground, and Israeli is
35:26
Speaker 12: preparing to attack Iran again. It's doing this well. It
35:29
Speaker 12: still hasn't finished the job in Gaza because Hamas has
35:33
Speaker 12: not been destroyed yet, the hostages aren't back. It's now
35:35
Speaker 12: starting a fight on the northern front with Hezbollah into Lebanon,
35:39
Speaker 12: and it means to settle a score with Iran and
35:43
Speaker 12: must be thinking about striking the Iranian nuclear facilities. So
35:47
Speaker 12: I think that this is a moment of great danger
35:50
Speaker 12: for the world, that this war could escalate well beyond
35:54
Speaker 12: a regional war into a much wider one.
36:00
Speaker 2: Intentions between President Biden and Prime Minister net and Yahoo,
36:04
Speaker 2: we're less than a month away from the US election.
36:08
Speaker 2: Of course, Biden will stay as president until the January
36:12
Speaker 2: twenty date for the inauguration, but house is playing out
36:15
Speaker 2: amongst an election campaign as well, given the tensions that
36:18
Speaker 2: are there between the two major parties.
36:21
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the United States is distracted and overstretched.
36:25
Speaker 12: Let's face it. Ukraine also wants systems from the United States.
36:28
Speaker 12: The United States is supplying those systems, and the Biden
36:31
Speaker 12: administration has been good on those fronts. But don't forget
36:33
Speaker 12: they had to scrounge around the world in order to
36:35
Speaker 12: get enough artillery shells to supply the war in Ukraine.
36:39
Speaker 12: Now Israel is stretching the United States and around the world. Peter,
36:43
Speaker 12: we can see all the signs that US adversaries are
36:47
Speaker 12: actually on the move. So the tempo of war games
36:51
Speaker 12: between Beijing and Russia has stepped up in the last
36:55
Speaker 12: half year. Their fighter jets did a fly by together
36:58
Speaker 12: the Chinese and Russians by Ascan airspace back in July.
37:02
Speaker 12: There are North Korean troops apparently now on the ground
37:05
Speaker 12: in Russia waiting to join the fight. There are the
37:08
Speaker 12: Chinese and now supplying lethal aid to the Russians. That's
37:11
Speaker 12: certainly the suspicion of the United States. Irana supplying drones,
37:15
Speaker 12: and Russia is helping Iran with its nuclear program. So
37:18
Speaker 12: what part of that doesn't look like an absolute witch's
37:21
Speaker 12: cocktail as to where the world might be heading. And
37:23
Speaker 12: don't forget, Shijingping has talked about changes unseen in the century,
37:28
Speaker 12: and last week Vladimir Putin met with the Iranian president
37:32
Speaker 12: and in a speech that he gave in Turkmenistan, talked
37:35
Speaker 12: about the fact that there was a new world order emerging.
37:38
Speaker 12: I think we start to addle these things up and
37:40
Speaker 12: it paints a very disturbing picture about what's happening with
37:43
Speaker 12: the world.
37:46
Speaker 2: You know, this is why I come back to Australia
37:47
Speaker 2: and I look at our forward acquisition plan. So much
37:51
Speaker 2: is on the long finger, so much is not even funded,
37:53
Speaker 2: not just in the forward estimates in the budget, but
37:56
Speaker 2: over the next ten years. The funds aren't there even
37:59
Speaker 2: e in a fictional sense. You've got a weak prime minister.
38:05
Speaker 2: I think you've got a very distracted deputy Prime minister,
38:08
Speaker 2: Defense minister. I mean you've even got the chief of
38:10
Speaker 2: staff in his office who's locked out, is in a
38:13
Speaker 2: cover down the corridor, still paying her a salary since
38:16
Speaker 2: about May this year. No one's really in charge. I mean,
38:22
Speaker 2: I don't think the world's been as fraught now. You
38:25
Speaker 2: have to probably go back to the nineteen thirties. We're
38:27
Speaker 2: in witch is Brew you call it. I think it's
38:29
Speaker 2: a diabolical situation. And we've got the really big player here,
38:34
Speaker 2: China on our doorstep.
38:37
Speaker 12: Yeah, and on the wed just recently, as you would
38:40
Speaker 12: be aware, China, China again surrounded Taiwan and essentially what
38:45
Speaker 12: that's what a blockade looks like. And at some stage
38:47
Speaker 12: that blockade will probably last for quite some time. It
38:50
Speaker 12: is in a push and shove match with the Philippines
38:53
Speaker 12: over the shoals that the features there that China is
38:56
Speaker 12: trying to take, because it's trying to take most of
38:58
Speaker 12: the South to China Sea, DRAGA should be looking to
39:01
Speaker 12: be in a position where it can actually work to
39:03
Speaker 12: defend itself without the United States. Now, we want the
39:07
Speaker 12: United States by our side. We want to be to
39:10
Speaker 12: make sure that that friendship and that alliance stands for
39:13
Speaker 12: a very long time. But I think at the moment,
39:15
Speaker 12: given that the sort of circumstances the US is in,
39:18
Speaker 12: we should be looking to defend ourselves. We should be
39:21
Speaker 12: doing everything in our power to make sure that we
39:23
Speaker 12: have all the necessary equipment on our shore to defend
39:26
Speaker 12: ourselves if necessary.
39:30
Speaker 2: Not Rong, Chris Human, thank you, well, let's go back
39:33
Speaker 2: to way to Augusta. My two gents there local cattle farmers,
39:36
Speaker 2: Scott Baxter, Gary Buller, gents, we'll give it another go.
39:41
Speaker 2: Scott talked to me about the consultation you have or
39:44
Speaker 2: have not had with Synergy Energy and the WA State
39:48
Speaker 2: government on this proposal.
39:51
Speaker 9: Yeah, Hi, Peter, Yeah, we have had very little consultation
39:55
Speaker 9: with Yeah, Synergy Read the developer.
39:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, nowhere near enough.
40:01
Speaker 9: Yeah, they've been to seas three times, but they've been
40:04
Speaker 9: really coy about sharing any information at any stage through
40:08
Speaker 9: the process.
40:10
Speaker 4: Yeah.
40:11
Speaker 9: I've been asked to host the turbines on our property
40:14
Speaker 9: and it's gone from sixteen to thirty and yeah, there'll
40:18
Speaker 9: be seven megawatts and two hundred and fifty meters high,
40:22
Speaker 9: which will make them some of the largest land based
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Speaker 9: turbines on really small land holdings.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Not everyone's been consulted in the Scott River and it
40:32
Speaker 9: really is starting to cause a little bit of anxiety
40:34
Speaker 9: within the community.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so Scott, what are the questions you want answered here?
40:41
Speaker 2: Because you are on a prime agricultural land, what are
40:44
Speaker 2: the questions you want to answered?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a long list Peter that Yeah, Synergy Read
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Speaker 9: just unable. Wele they're not willing to answer. With you know,
40:57
Speaker 9: who's going to who's going to own and run this
40:59
Speaker 9: project long term? We can see that there's a one
41:03
Speaker 9: third Dutch investment here via dif Capital. You know, we'd
41:08
Speaker 9: like to know how they're going to transport the one
41:11
Speaker 9: hundred meter long blades into a biodiversity hotspot without clearing
41:15
Speaker 9: any of the vegetation. You know, how are they going
41:19
Speaker 9: to manage the acid sulfate soils during the construction phase.
41:24
Speaker 9: And yeah, another one is, you know, how are they
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Speaker 9: going to protect the people that are living so close?
41:30
Speaker 9: You know, the health effects are really well documented these
41:33
Speaker 9: days on the ultrasonic vibration and infrasound. Just some of
41:37
Speaker 9: the things that we'd really like answer.
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Speaker 3: Car Thank you, Scott.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Gary because one of the
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Speaker 2: things that you just mentioned there, Scott was the fact
41:46
Speaker 2: that this is an area of great environmental bio diversity.
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Speaker 3: But it's actually more than that, isn't.
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Speaker 2: It, Gary, because it's protected under federal biodiversity legislation? So
41:59
Speaker 2: how on earth could they even consider putting something like
42:02
Speaker 2: this where you are.
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Speaker 13: Well, that's a question we're asking ourselves, Peter. It is
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Speaker 13: a biodiversity hotspot. It's been recognized as being one of
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Speaker 13: the top twenty five biodiversity hotspots anywhere on the planet.
42:15
Speaker 13: It's certainly one of the most sensitive, if not the
42:19
Speaker 13: most sensitive environment in Western Australia, and on a number
42:23
Speaker 13: of counts. It's based on the hydrology, the geology of
42:29
Speaker 13: the area in particular, as well as obviously the environment.
42:35
Speaker 13: Now we've got a number of threatened ecological communities which
42:39
Speaker 13: are rare and threatened plant species that have mapped out.
42:43
Speaker 13: A lot of those are in the wind envelope that
42:45
Speaker 13: they're talking about. We've also got on the hydrology side,
42:49
Speaker 13: we've got three major aquifers underlying the area as well
42:53
Speaker 13: as a superficial aquifer. Now the aquifer superficial aquifer varies
42:57
Speaker 13: in depth. It hasn't been properly plotted and nobody knows
43:02
Speaker 13: the true extent of it at this point. But if
43:04
Speaker 13: they were to fracture that with putting in the footings
43:07
Speaker 13: of these wind towers, which will need to go down
43:10
Speaker 13: to at least a depth of ten meters, if they
43:13
Speaker 13: fracture those that superficial aquifa, the chances of them being
43:18
Speaker 13: able to cap it are pretty remote. And then if
43:21
Speaker 13: you add the geology behind it, this area is known
43:25
Speaker 13: for acid sulfate soils at a depth of two meters
43:29
Speaker 13: and further down. The acid sulfate soils are a real,
43:33
Speaker 13: real concern. In fact, it was the acid sulfate soils
43:37
Speaker 13: that saw BHP have to shut down their Benup mine
43:41
Speaker 13: and walk away, costing them over eight hundred million dollars. Now,
43:44
Speaker 13: to give you an idea, with the acid sulfate soils,
43:47
Speaker 13: when they mix with water and air, the acid sulfate
43:52
Speaker 13: soils become acidic to the point where it turns into
43:56
Speaker 13: sulfuric acid. A diver who went into the resort bore
44:00
Speaker 13: his wet suit and his hooker mouthpiece melted as he
44:05
Speaker 13: came out and was taking it off, so had a
44:07
Speaker 13: lucky escape. But that's how toxic the water can transform.
44:12
Speaker 13: And so we're very, very concerned about what might happen
44:15
Speaker 13: to the water quality in the area and more particularly
44:18
Speaker 13: the river. We have the Scott River nearby which flows
44:22
Speaker 13: into the Blackwood River. And what price do you put on.
44:25
Speaker 2: That gent So I'm out of time, I'm going to
44:29
Speaker 2: have to leave it here, but this is going to
44:30
Speaker 2: be the first of many conversations. I can tell you
44:32
Speaker 2: have an open mic here on kredline. I am incredibly
44:36
Speaker 2: concerned about what's happening or planned to happen in your area.
44:39
Speaker 2: So my producers have got you a number, You've got theirs.
44:42
Speaker 3: Let's stay in touch.
44:43
Speaker 2: We'll stay right across this from my viewers and give
44:45
Speaker 2: you as much support as we can. Scott backs to there,
44:48
Speaker 2: Gary Buller from Augusta in Wa. It's a story being
44:52
Speaker 2: repeated in communities all around Australia.
44:55
Speaker 3: You know more of them. Send them into CRESL and.
44:57
Speaker 2: We'll put them up on the show when I put
44:59
Speaker 2: pressure on the government or up the break, we're going
45:01
Speaker 2: to dig into all the latest polls out of the US.
45:04
Speaker 2: Democrats growing very nervous about the trajectory of the election.
45:13
Speaker 2: Welcome back three weeks or so to go into the
45:15
Speaker 2: US presidential election. Voting already on the way in many states,
45:19
Speaker 2: and those polls just keep getting tighter and tita. But
45:22
Speaker 2: before we get into the polae, check out this new
45:25
Speaker 2: ad from the Trump campaign.
45:27
Speaker 3: Kamala supports tax for your funded, sex changes for presidents.
45:31
Speaker 14: Surgery for prisoners for prisoners, Every transgender in me in
45:38
Speaker 14: the prison system.
45:38
Speaker 11: Would have access.
45:39
Speaker 2: Kamala even supports letting biological men compete against our girls
45:44
Speaker 2: in their sports. Kamala is for a day dem President
45:48
Speaker 2: Trump is for you.
45:49
Speaker 3: I'm Donald J.
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Speaker 10: Trump, and I improved this message.
45:54
Speaker 3: Doesn't miss for you. My panel Awskin who's contributed to Koshagada.
45:57
Speaker 2: Past chair of the Parliament's foreig Affairs Defense Committee, Michael Danby.
46:01
Speaker 3: I'll start with you, Kosher.
46:02
Speaker 2: The gloves are really coming off in these last couple
46:05
Speaker 2: of weeks when you see ads like that.
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Speaker 14: Yes, and that one is interesting because the cultural issues
46:10
Speaker 14: have spaked in the national discourse from time to time,
46:12
Speaker 14: but there right now they don't really pull in the
46:14
Speaker 14: top five issues in comparison to the economy and immigration,
46:17
Speaker 14: which are these gigantic problems, except for parents in the suburbs.
46:21
Speaker 14: And that's one issuehere. Trump has always been soft, especially
46:24
Speaker 14: with suburban moms. This issue really matters to them. That's
46:27
Speaker 14: what put Glenn Youngkin in the governor race in the
46:30
Speaker 14: front seat, and I think that's why these ads are
46:32
Speaker 14: coming out very in a targeted way to shore up
46:34
Speaker 14: that suburban bullat and he has made in roads with
46:36
Speaker 14: them compared to the last time.
46:38
Speaker 2: And we're seeing how I mean, forget the coastal enclaves
46:42
Speaker 2: of New York and California, it's down to a handful
46:45
Speaker 2: of counties in a handful of seats. That's where the
46:48
Speaker 2: vote's tied this time. Previously under Hillary Clinton, of course,
46:52
Speaker 2: in the Biden race, the Democrats were so much further
46:55
Speaker 2: in front of Trump, Michael, and if you discount or
47:00
Speaker 2: factor in the shy Trump sort of voter a that
47:03
Speaker 2: I'd argue perhaps is on it's more exposed now, but
47:07
Speaker 2: it's certainly material. This would be type for the Democrats
47:11
Speaker 2: now uncomfortably tight.
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Speaker 15: Depends whether the pulses a factored in that shy Trump vote.
47:16
Speaker 15: But I think the most alarming statistic for the Harris
47:22
Speaker 15: Waltz campaign would be the statistics on young black men,
47:26
Speaker 15: which I've seen from the Obama era go down from
47:29
Speaker 15: eighty one percent to forty one percent now. So if
47:34
Speaker 15: they're significant in Michigan or Pennsylvania, that could be a
47:39
Speaker 15: big problem for them.
47:40
Speaker 2: I mean, she's marketed herself as a black woman, as
47:42
Speaker 2: a woman of color. Why would black men not be
47:45
Speaker 2: willing to vote for a black woman.
47:47
Speaker 15: Well, that's a question Obama's asking them, But I think
47:49
Speaker 15: actually that's a bit rude. They regard that as a
47:51
Speaker 15: bit rude. I saw a left wing black woman on
47:54
Speaker 15: MSNBC getting upset about it as well, I think people
47:58
Speaker 15: are entitled to vote however they like, and it's a
48:02
Speaker 15: mistake to.
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Speaker 3: Question.
48:05
Speaker 15: But I think with the gender gap in this election
48:07
Speaker 15: is amazing. The male vote against Camella and the female
48:14
Speaker 15: vote for her is very strong, and I think I
48:17
Speaker 15: saw one point it was a twenty point difference.
48:20
Speaker 2: So gender is making more of difficity, even if you
48:22
Speaker 2: look at the Hispanic vote too than racial background.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, so one of the biggest dividing allies in the
48:27
Speaker 14: selection is that gender gap. Trump has always done better
48:30
Speaker 14: with men, and generally Democrats do better with women, but
48:32
Speaker 14: it is really really stark.
48:34
Speaker 3: For many reasons.
48:34
Speaker 14: I think Trump just is sort of this aspirational figure
48:37
Speaker 14: despite his flaws for men, and he comes across as
48:39
Speaker 14: a strong leader in the times that we live.
48:41
Speaker 2: In, and he's comfortable to being a man's man in
48:43
Speaker 2: a country that sort of demonized men.
48:45
Speaker 14: Yes, and he really kind of owns that and people
48:48
Speaker 14: flaws and all words, and I'll just see him as
48:50
Speaker 14: a strong leader and you kind of know what you're getting.
48:52
Speaker 14: For women, I think the bar is higher anyway to
48:54
Speaker 14: be the commander in chief of the most powerful country
48:57
Speaker 14: on Earth. And on top of that, she just doesn't
48:58
Speaker 14: exue that kind of strength or even the intellect.
49:01
Speaker 3: Dare I say it?
49:01
Speaker 14: At least Hillary Clinton did exhibit a command of the issues,
49:05
Speaker 14: but maybe you know, didn't have the charisma. She doesn't
49:07
Speaker 14: come across with either, and especially these groups Blacks, Hispanics,
49:11
Speaker 14: they do value that strong man type of persona culturally.
49:14
Speaker 14: On top of the issues, again, he is stronger on
49:15
Speaker 14: the economy, he has stronger on immigration. Both those groups
49:18
Speaker 14: are disproportionately affected by those issues and really really care
49:20
Speaker 14: about it.
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Speaker 3: She's not cutting through.
49:22
Speaker 14: One other point on the polls I was just going
49:24
Speaker 14: to mention is the vote by mail metric, which is
49:27
Speaker 14: what basically led to the victory of Biden last time,
49:30
Speaker 14: and because of COVID it was sort of on steroids
49:32
Speaker 14: or one hundred million mill in ballots that is creating.
49:34
Speaker 14: So I was looking at the numbers and in Georgia
49:37
Speaker 14: there were one point four million mail in ballots requested
49:39
Speaker 14: in the last election and it's only three hundred thousand
49:41
Speaker 14: right now. That's a category where Democrats do really, really well.
49:44
Speaker 14: So to me, that's a far five alarm fire if
49:47
Speaker 14: I were her in those states. It's not quite as
49:49
Speaker 14: pronounced in others, but that's I think really telling, more
49:53
Speaker 14: so than the point.
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Speaker 15: She's going into dangerous territory by getting interviewed by Britt Payer,
49:57
Speaker 15: even though he's fair and balanced on Fox, and more
50:00
Speaker 15: particularly by that young demographic Charlemagne the Great, who's a young,
50:06
Speaker 15: very popular black podcaster. And I can't see why she's
50:11
Speaker 15: doing that. I think it's very dangerous. He may blow
50:15
Speaker 15: her up.
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Speaker 2: I think she's waiting for the fences and setting it
50:20
Speaker 2: out live is against her, which she's in a bad way.
50:23
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to leave it there. Andrew bolts
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Speaker 2: up next. Thanks for you counting me, See you tomorrow night.