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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The Wild and Panicked dash.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Bodycam footage shows cops storming a teen girls home after
- 0:14Speaker 1: her terrified nine one one call. I'm Nancy Grace. This
- 0:18Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
- 0:21Speaker 2: An independent nineteen year old calls nine one one when
- 0:26Speaker 2: an intruder breaks into her apartment. She tells the operator,
- 0:31Speaker 2: I've been shot.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Hi, I've been shot. Someone gets shot me. What address
- 0:37Speaker 1: you have? South corn On the Street apartment.
- 0:44Speaker 3: So nineteen twenty five South Coronata Street in Gilbert unit.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Yes, please please hurry, please.
- 0:52Speaker 4: Please please let.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Me get this over paramedics to get you free. Arrival
- 0:55Speaker 3: of anyone in the home with you? No, did the
- 0:58Speaker 3: person leave? Yes, stay on the phone with me. Okay,
- 1:01Speaker 3: I'm going to get this over to paramedics.
- 1:03Speaker 1: With that much notice the shere had just left the apartment,
- 1:08Speaker 1: but still Rachel's murder is unsolved. With me at all
- 1:14Speaker 1: Star panel of guests to make sense of what we
- 1:15Speaker 1: know tonight, but straight out to a special guest joining
- 1:19Speaker 1: us is Kim Hansen. This is Rachel's mother, Miss Hanson.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us, and I want to
- 1:27Speaker 1: apologize for what we are going to discuss. I wonder
- 1:33Speaker 1: how upsetting it must be to hear her on that
- 1:36Speaker 1: nine to one one call.
- 1:37Speaker 5: Yes, it is. We have never heard anything.
- 1:40Speaker 6: We've just seen a transcript, so it is it's difficult
- 1:43Speaker 6: to hear.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Miss Hanson. Tell me how you learned something had gone
- 1:50Speaker 1: horribly wrong.
- 1:52Speaker 6: Well, I was in Indiana at the time, babysitting two
- 1:56Speaker 6: of our grandchildren, and my husband called me about ten
- 2:00Speaker 6: o'clock in the morning and told me to sit down.
- 2:03Speaker 6: He had to tell me some very disturbing news. He
- 2:07Speaker 6: first learned around seven am Saturday morning, when two Gilbert
- 2:12Speaker 6: police officers came to our home and knocked on our
- 2:15Speaker 6: front door and sat down with him.
- 2:18Speaker 1: Tell me, Miss Hansen, what your husband told you he
- 2:22Speaker 1: had learned from police.
- 2:24Speaker 6: Well, he just said that Rachel's gone. We've lost her,
- 2:29Speaker 6: and she had been shot one time. She had been
- 2:33Speaker 6: transported to the hospital where they fought for three hours
- 2:40Speaker 6: to save her life, and I'm very grateful for that.
- 2:44Speaker 6: I was able to speak to the surgeon afterwards for
- 2:47Speaker 6: about an hour, and he told me everything they did,
- 2:51Speaker 6: and they felt like they were going to be able
- 2:53Speaker 6: to save her because she was so young and so strong,
- 2:56Speaker 6: but she just was not able to pull through.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Was very coherent and I could understand everything she said
- 3:05Speaker 1: when she called nine one one. So yes, what did
- 3:10Speaker 1: you learn after that, Miss Hanson?
- 3:12Speaker 5: Just that she was very coherent.
- 3:15Speaker 7: She was able to jump out of bed grab her.
- 3:17Speaker 6: Cell phone as she would do because she was just
- 3:21Speaker 6: such a fighter and when anything was wrong, she was
- 3:24Speaker 6: the first to jump in and try to solve it.
- 3:26Speaker 5: So that's what she did for herself.
- 3:28Speaker 6: And she was coherent until paramedics were there and starting
- 3:33Speaker 6: to work on her, and then she kind of lost
- 3:37Speaker 6: the ability, the consciousness and to answer their questions.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Miss Hanson, what have you learned about the exact nature
- 3:45Speaker 1: of the gunshot? Where was she shot?
- 3:47Speaker 6: She was shot one time and it entered her lower
- 3:50Speaker 6: left abdomen and traveled through so many vital organs and
- 3:56Speaker 6: arteries in her body and exited the top shoulder.
- 4:01Speaker 1: So lower left abdomen trajectory path going upward exit from
- 4:06Speaker 1: the top right shoulder. Is that correct?
- 4:08Speaker 5: That is correct? Yes?
- 4:09Speaker 1: Was she left handed or right handed?
- 4:11Speaker 7: She was right handed.
- 4:12Speaker 1: That is very critical in the analysis of what happened,
- 4:18Speaker 1: Miss Hansen. Tell me about Rachel. We are showing videos
- 4:23Speaker 1: and photos of her right now, she's the real life
- 4:26Speaker 1: horse whisperer.
- 4:28Speaker 6: Yes, yes, Rachel absolutely was, and it came very, very
- 4:33Speaker 6: naturally to her. She came to our family when she
- 4:38Speaker 6: was six years old as a child that had been
- 4:42Speaker 6: in foster care and needed a permanent home, and we
- 4:47Speaker 6: were more than willing to.
- 4:48Speaker 5: Give that to her.
- 4:49Speaker 6: So at six years old, she joined our family in
- 4:52Speaker 6: February and was legally adopted in May. And at that
- 4:57Speaker 6: time we had sold and rehomed all of our horses
- 5:02Speaker 6: from our older biological daughters who had gone to college
- 5:06Speaker 6: and got married, and so we were kind of moving
- 5:09Speaker 6: out of that. But sweet Rachel would climb up on
- 5:12Speaker 6: the fence and look out at the past year area
- 5:15Speaker 6: and just long for a horse, and so, knowing that's
- 5:19Speaker 6: what this little girl needed to work through a lot
- 5:22Speaker 6: of the trauma that she'd had, we got her a horse,
- 5:25Speaker 6: and that's where it all started. And we would come
- 5:29Speaker 6: downstairs early in the morning and she would already be
- 5:33Speaker 6: sitting on the back of a horse in the backyard,
- 5:37Speaker 6: all by herself, and she just.
- 5:39Speaker 5: Lived on the back of whatever horse we had.
- 5:42Speaker 6: We started, obviously with an older, very gentle horse, and
- 5:45Speaker 6: then she progressed and we got another one that was
- 5:49Speaker 6: younger that she could work more with, and the beautiful
- 5:54Speaker 6: mayor that you see her on Mostly We got Dash
- 5:57Speaker 6: when Rachel was twelve and Dash was four.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Miss Hanson, you mentioned that Rachel was working through the
- 6:05Speaker 1: trauma that she suffered being in the foster system, which
- 6:09Speaker 1: in my experience can be overwhelming. What trauma to what
- 6:16Speaker 1: trauma are you referring?
- 6:18Speaker 6: Rachel clearly could speak of this herself, so I know
- 6:22Speaker 6: it is the truth.
- 6:22Speaker 5: When she was three years old, her biological mother left.
- 6:27Speaker 6: The home about ten o'clock at night to get milk
- 6:32Speaker 6: and never returned, so that was her first loss. Then
- 6:36Speaker 6: she was living in an apartment with who she assumed
- 6:40Speaker 6: was her father or grandfather, about a sixty year old
- 6:44Speaker 6: man that cared for her for a short time, and
- 6:48Speaker 6: then she found him dead.
- 6:50Speaker 5: On the floor, so that was a second loss for her.
- 6:53Speaker 6: So at that time she was immediately taken to emergency
- 6:56Speaker 6: receiving foster care where she stayed for a short time
- 7:02Speaker 6: in a shelter environment, and then went to a home,
- 7:06Speaker 6: a foster home who said they were going to adopt her,
- 7:10Speaker 6: but after about six months changed their mind and told
- 7:14Speaker 6: her they were not going to adopt her, but that
- 7:18Speaker 6: she could stay there until her forever family was found.
- 7:22Speaker 6: So that was her third abandonment in.
- 7:26Speaker 5: Just six years. So that's a lot of trauma for
- 7:29Speaker 5: a small child. And it was at that time she
- 7:32Speaker 5: came to.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Us, poor sweet girl. And now this we have learned
- 7:39Speaker 1: a lot from the bodycam and you heard our nine
- 7:42Speaker 1: on one reenact. Listen to the bodycam.
- 7:46Speaker 8: It's rather than wanting.
- 7:48Speaker 1: To buy her.
- 7:51Speaker 8: Things, going to be Rachel, she's there, she's person.
- 8:29Speaker 1: You are hearing the officer stating, what's your name, what's
- 8:31Speaker 1: your name? Talk to me, Rachel, stay with us, Rachel,
- 8:34Speaker 1: stay with me, and more he's good.
- 8:38Speaker 9: One more officer, we can at least go down there
- 8:39Speaker 9: and clear make sure that's sitting over there.
- 8:42Speaker 1: We need to clear down this hall.
- 8:44Speaker 4: But there there's nothing there.
- 8:45Speaker 1: You can't go any further. Joining me. In addition to
- 8:56Speaker 1: Rachel's mom, Kim Hansen is Justin. Yis Justin yis feral
- 9:00Speaker 1: defense investigator at Arizona Investigative Associates. Justin. This case is
- 9:07Speaker 1: so upsetting because as you hear the officers stating, we
- 9:12Speaker 1: got to go clear the building, We got to clear
- 9:14Speaker 1: this hall. They're clearing it because they know the shooter
- 9:17Speaker 1: has just left. But yet we still don't have the killer.
- 9:21Speaker 1: We don't.
- 9:22Speaker 4: It's been two two and a half years and correct,
- 9:25Speaker 4: we still have no arrests in this case and no
- 9:28Speaker 4: finalization for the Hansons.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Do you believe that the apartment was processed appropriately, Justin
- 9:35Speaker 1: yenttez for fingerprints, anything that could lead us to the killer.
- 9:39Speaker 4: From my understanding it was unfortunately or you know, just
- 9:45Speaker 4: the situation is that it is an ongoing investigation, and
- 9:49Speaker 4: so while we have been able to obtain some records
- 9:52Speaker 4: from Gilbert Police under the Arizona Public Records Law, there's
- 9:56Speaker 4: quite a bit that's been redacted. So we don't know
- 9:58Speaker 4: to what extent the SEENO was processed, or what evidence
- 10:03Speaker 4: all was found, and what type of testing or follow
- 10:06Speaker 4: up investigation was done on that. Most of the indications
- 10:11Speaker 4: of that have been redacted.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Question, Justin, was the weapon recovered?
- 10:15Speaker 4: As far as I know, no, it was not.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace joining me in addition to
- 10:31Speaker 1: Kim Hansen and Justin Yentis investigative reporter at ABC fifteen Phoenix,
- 10:37Speaker 1: Ashley Holden, Ashley, thank you for being with us. Thank
- 10:40Speaker 1: you for having me Nancy Ashley, what can you tell
- 10:43Speaker 1: me about the area specifically apartment complex, Well.
- 10:46Speaker 10: The area itself and the apartment complex. Gilbert is considered
- 10:50Speaker 10: a pretty safe community in the East Valley, and people
- 10:54Speaker 10: think of it as a place that they want to
- 10:57Speaker 10: raise a family. Many people think of it as like
- 11:00Speaker 10: a small town area just outside of Phoenix, so kind
- 11:04Speaker 10: of suburbia, if you will. But the apartment that you're
- 11:07Speaker 10: looking at this is a gated Gilbert apartment complex that
- 11:11Speaker 10: one would think would be very safe. One thing that
- 11:16Speaker 10: we noted from that over three hundred and thirty plus
- 11:19Speaker 10: page police report.
- 11:21Speaker 1: That we just got this month was that.
- 11:23Speaker 10: When police went and they started asking people for camera footage,
- 11:28Speaker 10: some of the neighbors had ring doorbell footage, but this
- 11:31Speaker 10: complex told police that they didn't have any working cameras,
- 11:36Speaker 10: which is something as you look at this apartment complex,
- 11:39Speaker 10: you would think that they would have.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Does it never end? Justin yentis joining US investigator at
- 11:46Speaker 1: Arizona Investigative Associates. How can any body forget the case
- 11:51Speaker 1: of Summer Intern NBC Chandra Levy remember so much timed
- 11:59Speaker 1: pass before her case was solved years and it brought
- 12:03Speaker 1: down a Congressman Gary Condent, do you recall that, long
- 12:09Speaker 1: story short, the building where Seanja lived had repeating video
- 12:18Speaker 1: and so by the time police realized they need to
- 12:20Speaker 1: look at her leaving in the lobby. Did she have
- 12:24Speaker 1: on an evening dress, did she have on a cocktail dress?
- 12:27Speaker 1: Did she have on jogging gear? Was she alone? Which
- 12:30Speaker 1: way did she head out of the apartment building? Long
- 12:34Speaker 1: story short, they lost all that because it repeated over
- 12:38Speaker 1: after seventy two hours. And here now we learn that
- 12:43Speaker 1: the apartment complex had video cameras that didn't work.
- 12:48Speaker 4: Yeah, that's correct, and generally speaking, security tape records over
- 12:53Speaker 4: every thirty to ninety days, but in this case it
- 12:57Speaker 4: just was non existent.
- 12:59Speaker 1: So Holden investigative reporter ABC fifteen, Ashley, you stated that
- 13:04Speaker 1: some of the neighbors had ring doorbell footage. Yeah, that's what.
- 13:09Speaker 10: We can tell in that police report is that they
- 13:11Speaker 10: describe seeing some footage that shows Rachel kind of in
- 13:15Speaker 10: the hours leading up, walking around with people, doing things
- 13:18Speaker 10: like going to the pool. But as justin mentioned, there
- 13:22Speaker 10: are major major parts of that police report that has
- 13:26Speaker 10: been redacted, and so many things that were in that
- 13:30Speaker 10: report we don't know, We can't read, so we don't
- 13:33Speaker 10: know exactly what police have when it comes to video,
- 13:36Speaker 10: other than what is unredacted in that report.
- 13:40Speaker 3: Just after two am, Rachel Hansen calls nine to one
- 13:43Speaker 3: one and says someone broke in and shot me. The
- 13:46Speaker 3: dispatcher gets Rachel's address and tries to help her stop
- 13:49Speaker 3: the bleeding while police and paramedics are on the way.
- 13:51Speaker 3: Rachel says she doesn't have any kind of cloth or
- 13:53Speaker 3: town near her to use, and the dispatcher notes that
- 13:56Speaker 3: Rachel is less and less responsive and it sounds like
- 13:59Speaker 3: she's about to pass out. The dispatcher notes that the
- 14:02Speaker 3: shooter has left the apartment, but Warren's officers to be vigilant.
- 14:07Speaker 2: A compassionate animal lover last seen on a neighbor's ring
- 14:11Speaker 2: camera after late night swimming. Police find Rachel Hanson in
- 14:16Speaker 2: her bathroom. Who shot Rachel?
- 14:21Speaker 3: Gilbert p d initially struggled to locate Rachel's apartment, but
- 14:24Speaker 3: arrived within five minutes of her call. Cops call out
- 14:27Speaker 3: for her and she weakly responds, I'm in here. An
- 14:30Speaker 3: officer finds her crumpled to the floor of her bathroom
- 14:33Speaker 3: with a gunshot wound to her chest. As another officer
- 14:35Speaker 3: sweeps the apartment. He finds blood in a spent shell
- 14:38Speaker 3: casing in Rachel's bed. Officers note that the apartment seems
- 14:41Speaker 3: oddly empty, but there are no signs of a struggle
- 14:44Speaker 3: in Rachel's jewelry and other valuables are untouched.
- 14:47Speaker 1: So what is the motive who murdered this beautiful teen girl?
- 14:52Speaker 1: Rachel Hanson with me her mom to Kim Hanson, Rachel's mother,
- 14:59Speaker 1: Kim again, thank you for being with us. I really
- 15:02Speaker 1: I don't know how you put one foot in front
- 15:04Speaker 1: of the other, much less join us here here the
- 15:08Speaker 1: words from the nine one one call and our discussion
- 15:12Speaker 1: of the evidence. Ms Hansen, How do you keep going?
- 15:17Speaker 6: I have to keep going for Rachel, and as hard
- 15:21Speaker 6: as it is, especially sitting here watching all these pictures,
- 15:25Speaker 6: I do it every day for her. I gain strength
- 15:30Speaker 6: to put one foot in front of the other because
- 15:33Speaker 6: I would do anything for my girl. And this is
- 15:38Speaker 6: just part of the fight to find justice, to find
- 15:41Speaker 6: who took her.
- 15:42Speaker 7: Life so randomly and so early. So it's been hard.
- 15:49Speaker 7: It's been the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.
- 15:51Speaker 6: But I will continue to do it and gain strength
- 15:55Speaker 6: knowing that I'm helping her still to this day, nothing
- 15:59Speaker 6: any mind wouldn't do do.
- 16:01Speaker 1: Eesen is joining US certified forensic pathologist. You can find
- 16:06Speaker 1: him on f B at Eric August Easen. Thanks Dodgor
- 16:11Speaker 1: Easton for being with us, Doctor Easton. I'm waning to
- 16:13Speaker 1: clarify several things that we know so far. Her wound
- 16:17Speaker 1: has been described as a chest wound, and in a
- 16:19Speaker 1: sense that is correct. However, the entry wound was that
- 16:25Speaker 1: her lower left abdomen. The trajectory path was upward, and
- 16:30Speaker 1: I would think slightly toward the front, back to front
- 16:37Speaker 1: because it came. The exit wound was the upper right shoulder.
- 16:43Speaker 1: That said, what would have occurred? What would Rachel have suffered?
- 16:50Speaker 1: You heard her words on the nine one one call.
- 16:53Speaker 1: She was perfectly coherent and could call nine one one.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Why couldn't she be saved?
- 17:00Speaker 11: Well, it sounds like if the entrance wound was to
- 17:03Speaker 11: the left abdomen, the bullet would have gone in through
- 17:07Speaker 11: organs of the adaman, probably some of the intestines. Perhaps
- 17:11Speaker 11: if the exit was to the right shoulder, it sounds
- 17:13Speaker 11: like it would have made its way into the chest cavity,
- 17:18Speaker 11: probably would have gone through the right lung and then
- 17:21Speaker 11: exited out the right shoulder. It sounds like, going through
- 17:26Speaker 11: the right lung, you're not gonna be able to breathe
- 17:28Speaker 11: very well, and you're going to lose a lot of blood.
- 17:30Speaker 11: And if the bullet went through the liver, you're going
- 17:31Speaker 11: to lose a lot of blood too. But it would
- 17:33Speaker 11: explain why she would not have gone immediately unconscious, and
- 17:36Speaker 11: it would also explain why she didn't make it because
- 17:39Speaker 11: of the bullet going through the right lung and would
- 17:41Speaker 11: have lost a lot of blood.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Okay, I know it makes perfect sense to you what
- 17:46Speaker 1: you just said, But why is it that she would
- 17:49Speaker 1: not have died immediately.
- 17:50Speaker 11: Well, the bullet did not go through the brain, and
- 17:53Speaker 11: that's not going to cause an immediate lack of consciousness.
- 17:57Speaker 11: And it also did not go through a major blood vessel.
- 17:59Speaker 11: That didn't sound like because you can lose blood very quickly,
- 18:01Speaker 11: like if it goes through the a orda or some
- 18:04Speaker 11: other large blood vessele. And that's why she would not
- 18:07Speaker 11: have lost consciousness immediately.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Do you believe her lungs just filled up with blood
- 18:12Speaker 1: and she couldn't breathe anymore, or did she have such
- 18:17Speaker 1: massive internal bleeding that she died from loss of blood,
- 18:21Speaker 1: probably a combination of the two.
- 18:24Speaker 11: When a bullet goes through the lung, through any long
- 18:26Speaker 11: whether the right lung or the left lung, you're going
- 18:28Speaker 11: to have an inability to breathe because the lung is
- 18:30Speaker 11: going to collapse. And then if the bullet passes through
- 18:33Speaker 11: a large blood vessel and the lung, you're also going
- 18:35Speaker 11: to have a combination of blood loss at the same time.
- 18:37Speaker 11: So the blood's not really going to collect in the lung,
- 18:39Speaker 11: but it'll collect in the chest cavity, which is where
- 18:41Speaker 11: the lungs hang out. So there's probably some blood found
- 18:44Speaker 11: in the right chest cavity, is what I'm thinking has
- 18:46Speaker 11: probably happened.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Another issue that I want to clarify. It would be
- 18:51Speaker 1: really easy for someone to just say, oh, we heard
- 18:54Speaker 1: she had a troubled childhood, which she did until Kim
- 18:58Speaker 1: Hansen's family took her in and gave her a beautiful,
- 19:03Speaker 1: beautiful life. Some people would argue she committed suicide. There's
- 19:09Speaker 1: no way with this trajectory path that this young girl
- 19:13Speaker 1: shot herself. First of all, she's right handed, and she
- 19:17Speaker 1: would have had to shoot herself through the lower abdomen.
- 19:20Speaker 1: Think of your left hip bone, at an angle, an
- 19:24Speaker 1: upward angle, she'd have to be holding the gun in
- 19:27Speaker 1: a very odd position up for the path of the bullet.
- 19:32Speaker 1: That's what we mean by trajectory path to come up
- 19:35Speaker 1: and through and exit the right shoulder physically impossible. I
- 19:41Speaker 1: would say, doctor Aeson, do you agree or disagree?
- 19:44Speaker 11: Well, I mean I agree mainly based on location of
- 19:48Speaker 11: the interest wod, not necessarily the trajectory. So the fact
- 19:52Speaker 11: that the interest wing is located on the left abdomen
- 19:56Speaker 11: kind of tells me that it was not self inflicted.
- 19:58Speaker 11: Individuals who intention only shoot themselves, they're going to place
- 20:03Speaker 11: the gun against the head mainly the temporal region or
- 20:06Speaker 11: the temple or intraoral. But a suicidal gunshot wounds to
- 20:11Speaker 11: the left adomen just doesn't doesn't make a lot of sense.
- 20:14Speaker 11: The other issue to consider is the range of fire
- 20:16Speaker 11: of the interest wounds. So if there is a lack
- 20:19Speaker 11: of searing around the wound edges or sit deposition or stippling,
- 20:25Speaker 11: which is gunpowder tattooing is what we call that, that
- 20:28Speaker 11: would indicate that the gun was far away from the body,
- 20:30Speaker 11: So we're talking at least two and a half three
- 20:32Speaker 11: feet away, in which case self infliction would not even
- 20:36Speaker 11: be possible because the gun would have had to have
- 20:38Speaker 11: been far away, otherwise you would have gunshot residue deposited
- 20:42Speaker 11: onto the target.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Well another issue is another issue is that if she
- 20:46Speaker 1: had shot herself, which she did not, she would have
- 20:48Speaker 1: had to do so with her non dominant left hand.
- 20:52Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people can't even brush their
- 20:55Speaker 1: teeth or fix their hair with a non dominant hand.
- 20:59Speaker 1: So now we expect for this teen girl to shoot
- 21:02Speaker 1: herself with a non dominant hand in the lower abdomen
- 21:06Speaker 1: at an upward angle. To me, trajectory path is very important,
- 21:09Speaker 1: although you disagree, because you'd have to hold a gun
- 21:12Speaker 1: to your left abdomen non dominant hand and at the
- 21:15Speaker 1: same time, which is low down on your hip, point
- 21:18Speaker 1: the gun upward so for it to have that path. So,
- 21:22Speaker 1: how in the world could that have happened? It couldn't have.
- 21:26Speaker 1: And another issue, and let me throw this sug Justin yentis,
- 21:30Speaker 1: investigator at Arizona Investigative Associates. Obviously she did not shoot
- 21:37Speaker 1: herself because no weapon was recovered. How could she shoot
- 21:40Speaker 1: herself and then get rid of the weapon? That didn't
- 21:44Speaker 1: happen exactly.
- 21:45Speaker 4: It didn't. And I mean, unless there's some information in
- 21:48Speaker 4: the redactive part of the police report that identifies a weapon,
- 21:51Speaker 4: we have no indication that a weapon was up or recovered.
- 21:53Speaker 1: As she holden with US investigative reporter ABC fifteen Phoenix Ashley.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Do we know was Rachel clothed.
- 22:03Speaker 10: In the police report? It seems like yes, she was
- 22:06Speaker 10: wearing clothes at the time. What is interesting in the
- 22:09Speaker 10: police report is that as Rachel is taken to the hospital,
- 22:14Speaker 10: there is a change. Obviously Rachel is taken, she's being treated,
- 22:18Speaker 10: and then after in the hours after, as they learned
- 22:22Speaker 10: that obviously Rachel passed away. Police are then trying to
- 22:26Speaker 10: track down her clothes at the hospital, what happened to them?
- 22:29Speaker 10: Where were they taken? And it is unclear at the
- 22:33Speaker 10: end of reading the whole over three hundred and thirty pages,
- 22:37Speaker 10: what happened to Rachel's clothes and if police ever got
- 22:41Speaker 10: custody of them.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Again, it is.
- 22:43Speaker 10: A question that we asked police after reading that report,
- 22:47Speaker 10: and they would not answer for US.
- 22:49Speaker 12: Gilbert PDI investigators check on Rachel's neighbors. No one else
- 22:53Speaker 12: was hurt or even knew someone had been shot next door.
- 22:56Speaker 12: Everyone says they didn't hear anything. The complex does not
- 22:59Speaker 12: have any work cameras and no units in the vicinity
- 23:02Speaker 12: of Rachel's apartment have ring cameras, but one officer finds
- 23:05Speaker 12: a ring camera across from Rachel's detached garage. The camera
- 23:09Speaker 12: captures the team walking with her fiance toward the complex
- 23:12Speaker 12: pool just after nine pm.
- 23:16Speaker 2: A compassionate animal lover last seen on a neighbor's ring camera.
- 23:21Speaker 2: After late night swimming, police find Rachel Hanson in her bathroom.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Who shot Rachel.
- 23:30Speaker 3: Cops have now released new information in Rachel's case, including
- 23:33Speaker 3: a three hundred and thirty page investigative report and twenty
- 23:36Speaker 3: seven clips of body camera footage from responding officers. All
- 23:40Speaker 3: of the information is heavily redacted but reveals new details
- 23:43Speaker 3: in the investigation.
- 23:45Speaker 1: That bodycam footage that we are playing for you if
- 23:48Speaker 1: we could see that now, show's police storming into Rachel's
- 23:53Speaker 1: apartment after her desperate nine to one one call. But
- 23:57Speaker 1: even though her nine to one one call was met
- 24:00Speaker 1: immediately after she shot, still no leads. There. You see
- 24:05Speaker 1: police clearing the hallways because according to Rachel Hansen, the
- 24:10Speaker 1: shooter had just left and she's still coherent. Can still
- 24:15Speaker 1: speak there. You see them going into the apartment calling
- 24:18Speaker 1: out to her. Rachel talked to us and she says,
- 24:20Speaker 1: I'm here. They find her crumpled to the floor in
- 24:24Speaker 1: her bathroom with a gunshot wound to the abdomen and
- 24:28Speaker 1: that same shot goes through her chest. Another officer sweeps
- 24:32Speaker 1: the apartment, finding blood and a spent shell casing in
- 24:36Speaker 1: Rachel's bed, so that indicates she was shot in the bedroom.
- 24:42Speaker 1: To Kim Hanson joining us, this is Rachel's mother, Miss Hanson, again,
- 24:46Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. I'm trying to spare
- 24:50Speaker 1: you a lot of the details while focusing on the evidence.
- 24:53Speaker 1: I find probative she was not shot then in the
- 24:56Speaker 1: bathroom where she was found. That spent tasing shell indicates
- 25:02Speaker 1: she was shot in the bedroom. Could she have been
- 25:06Speaker 1: shot as she was on the run to the bathroom
- 25:09Speaker 1: or try to get away? What do you know about
- 25:12Speaker 1: the condition of the bedroom? Was it turned upside down?
- 25:17Speaker 1: Was the bed still made? What do you know about
- 25:20Speaker 1: her bedroom?
- 25:20Speaker 6: What we know is that she had a king sized bed,
- 25:25Speaker 6: had just moved it into the apartment.
- 25:27Speaker 5: The day before.
- 25:29Speaker 7: It was not fully put together because.
- 25:31Speaker 6: She was still moving in and she was sleeping in
- 25:34Speaker 6: her bed. We believe when the shooter kicked her bedroom
- 25:39Speaker 6: door open, maybe took one step because it wouldn't be
- 25:43Speaker 6: very far, and shot her while she was sleeping, while
- 25:47Speaker 6: her dog and her foster pup were in the room
- 25:50Speaker 6: with her. I don't believe that she even had a
- 25:54Speaker 6: chance to get out of bed until she had been shot,
- 25:57Speaker 6: at which time she jumped up and grabbed her cell phone,
- 26:01Speaker 6: and I believe at that time made her way to
- 26:04Speaker 6: the bathroom.
- 26:05Speaker 5: And previously you were asking about the clothes that she
- 26:07Speaker 5: was wearing.
- 26:09Speaker 6: I believe that when we went to the apartment Tuesday
- 26:13Speaker 6: or Wednesday after she was shot, after we lost her,
- 26:17Speaker 6: what she was sleeping in was on the floor in
- 26:20Speaker 6: the bathroom, and it was just a pair of black
- 26:22Speaker 6: shorts and a black cami, what she normally would sleep
- 26:27Speaker 6: in at night, and that was left there in the bathroom.
- 26:30Speaker 1: So those clothes were probably taken off her by EMT's
- 26:33Speaker 1: trying to save her life. To you, doctor Eric Aeson,
- 26:37Speaker 1: the fact that Mom says she was lying in the
- 26:40Speaker 1: bed would totally explain the upper trajectory path. Good.
- 26:43Speaker 11: Yes, if she was lying in bed and the shooter
- 26:46Speaker 11: was on the other side, of the room and she
- 26:48Speaker 11: was lying flat. That would explain the upper jectory paths.
- 26:52Speaker 11: We base everything on the anatomic position, so if you
- 26:54Speaker 11: have an interest, swing to the left adamant and an
- 26:57Speaker 11: exit to the right shoulder, even if you're lying down
- 27:00Speaker 11: when the shooting occurred. We assume everybody is injured while
- 27:04Speaker 11: they're standing in the anatomic position, and so that woind
- 27:06Speaker 11: trajectory would be upward correct.
- 27:08Speaker 1: Joining us now a special guest board certified forensic psychologist
- 27:12Speaker 1: and you can find her at Veritas Forensic Psychology dot com.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Doctor Bree Pelegie, Doctor Bree, thank you for being with us.
- 27:21Speaker 1: I was thinking about what the neighbors said that we
- 27:24Speaker 1: didn't hear a thing. You know, very often when you
- 27:27Speaker 1: do hear something, you don't register was that a gunshot?
- 27:32Speaker 1: You think, oh, was that a kickback from a car
- 27:34Speaker 1: or what was that? Is it? Because we don't want
- 27:38Speaker 1: to think it's a gun shot, Well why is that?
- 27:40Speaker 1: Because I find it really difficult. Nobody heard it and
- 27:43Speaker 1: it absolutely happened. Absolutely.
- 27:46Speaker 9: I think a lot of times people want to assume
- 27:49Speaker 9: that the place that they're living in is safe, and
- 27:51Speaker 9: so they may think it's.
- 27:53Speaker 5: A firework, it's a vehicle. That doesn't happen here, you know.
- 27:57Speaker 1: Very curious. Kim Hansen, this is Rachel's mom. She was
- 28:02Speaker 1: viewed on the neighbor's ring cam. I believe it was
- 28:05Speaker 1: around nine pm, and then she was shot a few
- 28:09Speaker 1: hours later. And at that time she was with the fiance.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Is that correct?
- 28:14Speaker 5: Yes, that's correct.
- 28:15Speaker 1: So that evening, how do we know the fiance went home?
- 28:19Speaker 5: He told us that he did.
- 28:21Speaker 7: He left around midnight.
- 28:25Speaker 6: We later learned that he was called to come home
- 28:29Speaker 6: and so he left, which would not be out of
- 28:34Speaker 6: the ordinary. He has a landscaping business and in the
- 28:38Speaker 6: Arizona heat, they have to start very early in the morning,
- 28:42Speaker 6: so it would make perfect sense for him to leave
- 28:45Speaker 6: and go home to be ready to go to work
- 28:47Speaker 6: at five am.
- 28:48Speaker 1: But wait a minute, what time was the shooting.
- 28:51Speaker 7: The shooting was at two am.
- 28:54Speaker 1: So Justin Yentez joining us, a renowned investigator, justin explain
- 29:00Speaker 1: to me that that timeline he went home at five,
- 29:04Speaker 1: but the shooting was it two ish?
- 29:06Speaker 4: Well, it's and we don't have the phone records, but
- 29:10Speaker 4: we understand that. Yeah, mister Bailey was called home sometime
- 29:15Speaker 4: in the late evening on June third, and then or
- 29:19Speaker 4: very early, very early in the morning on June fourth,
- 29:21Speaker 4: and then the shooting happened a couple of hours later
- 29:24Speaker 4: at two o seven.
- 29:25Speaker 1: At least the nine one one, Justin hold On called
- 29:30Speaker 1: home by him by his father. Okay, So the father
- 29:33Speaker 1: calls him home at what time?
- 29:35Speaker 4: We believe it's sometime in the late hours of June
- 29:38Speaker 4: third or the very early morning of June fourth, and
- 29:42Speaker 4: his father is the owner of Valanscape business where he worked.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Okay, Kim Hanson, can we nail down what time the
- 29:48Speaker 1: dad called him home to get him up for the
- 29:50Speaker 1: next morning.
- 29:50Speaker 6: I believe it was eleven thirty and he left by midnight.
- 29:55Speaker 6: It's my understanding.
- 29:56Speaker 1: Okay. So obviously, to Ashley Holden, joining US investigative reporter
- 30:01Speaker 1: ABC fifteen Phoenix, Obviously that can be corroborated by cell
- 30:07Speaker 1: phone data, a NAV system in the car, many many
- 30:11Speaker 1: ways to corroborate what time the fiance leaves and what
- 30:14Speaker 1: time he gets home.
- 30:15Speaker 10: And we would love to know what kind of evidence
- 30:18Speaker 10: police looked at. Did they pull that cell phone data?
- 30:21Speaker 10: What we do know is that police did talk to
- 30:24Speaker 10: Rachel's fiance, did interview him, and I will say in
- 30:28Speaker 10: that police report In the days leading up to when
- 30:31Speaker 10: Rachel was shot, we did learn about some strange circumstances
- 30:36Speaker 10: that her fiance also relayed to police. We learned that Rachel,
- 30:40Speaker 10: who had been stuff letting her apartment, had just moved
- 30:43Speaker 10: back in, as Kim mentioned, but that neighbors had actually
- 30:47Speaker 10: called the apartment office saying that there was a commotion
- 30:50Speaker 10: happening at Rachel's apartment. There was yelling, and the apartment
- 30:54Speaker 10: complex management went over and they did see that they
- 30:58Speaker 10: called police. By the time police got there, all was quiet.
- 31:01Speaker 10: We also know that the locks were changed, and this
- 31:04Speaker 10: is after Rachel says that someone came into her apartment,
- 31:09Speaker 10: looked at her while she was in her bed, and
- 31:12Speaker 10: then left. She actually told that to her fiance, and
- 31:16Speaker 10: I believe she also told that to her parents as well,
- 31:19Speaker 10: So she had changed the lock and all of this
- 31:21Speaker 10: in the days leading up to when she was shot
- 31:25Speaker 10: and killed.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Hold on just a moment though, as she holden. The
- 31:28Speaker 1: ruckus that people heard was that before she moved in,
- 31:33Speaker 1: or after she moved in and the tenants had moved out.
- 31:36Speaker 10: It was in the days as she was moving in,
- 31:38Speaker 10: and Kim can probably give you the exact date when
- 31:41Speaker 10: all of this happened, but I know that apartment management
- 31:45Speaker 10: they cited the day as May thirty first, and they
- 31:49Speaker 10: actually saw a man leaving her apartment. There was yelling.
- 31:54Speaker 10: There were multiple people in Rachel's apartment at that time.
- 31:57Speaker 1: What about it? Kim Hanson was the com during the
- 32:02Speaker 1: time she moved in, or before she had already moved in, There.
- 32:06Speaker 5: Was a lot of commotion.
- 32:07Speaker 7: It was all before Rachel had moved in.
- 32:09Speaker 6: She did not set foot in the apartment until Thursday,
- 32:15Speaker 6: which was I believe June's second The other people that
- 32:19Speaker 6: had subleased from her were moving out during that week
- 32:25Speaker 6: before Rachel got the keys and was moving back into
- 32:29Speaker 6: the apartment.
- 32:36Speaker 2: A desperate family begging for answers in the senseless and
- 32:41Speaker 2: cowardly murder of their daughter.
- 32:44Speaker 13: Rachel Hanson is well known in the Gilbert community as
- 32:47Speaker 13: a bona fide horse whisperer. At fourteen, Rachel is teaching
- 32:51Speaker 13: younger children to ride and breaking year links. Rachel has
- 32:55Speaker 13: away with other animals too, bringing home every stray dog
- 32:58Speaker 13: she comes across. Rachel is a great student, the only
- 33:02Speaker 13: girl on the football team, and a star soccer player.
- 33:05Speaker 13: Rachel is so accomplished she graduates high school early at
- 33:09Speaker 13: just sixteen years old.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Well she goes straight into taking her love for animals
- 33:15Speaker 1: and turning it into a business. At nineteen Listen.
- 33:19Speaker 12: Rachel continues to flourish after graduation. Rachel runs a busy
- 33:23Speaker 12: horse training business, a Z Hanson Horses, finding and breaking
- 33:28Speaker 12: wild horses for clients. Rachel also makes a deal with
- 33:31Speaker 12: the ranch owner in Queen's Creek to live and work
- 33:33Speaker 12: on the property as a trainer. At the onset of
- 33:35Speaker 12: the pandemic, Rachel also commits herself to running a dog rescue.
- 33:39Speaker 12: With her family's help, they find homes for over two
- 33:42Speaker 12: hundred dogs. In all her free time, Rachel studies to
- 33:45Speaker 12: earn her real estate license and has also found love
- 33:48Speaker 12: engaged to Mary.
- 33:50Speaker 1: I just got to ask you, Kim, who do you
- 33:53Speaker 1: think would have done this? And I want to be
- 33:55Speaker 1: very clear that the commotion the Ruckus tenant boy friend
- 34:00Speaker 1: had been selling marijuana out of the apartment, that bunch
- 34:04Speaker 1: was evicted, and then Rachel moves back in, none of
- 34:09Speaker 1: that had anything to do with her. But it concerns
- 34:12Speaker 1: me in this way, Kim, if any of those people
- 34:16Speaker 1: or people connected to them came back into the apartment
- 34:21Speaker 1: because the neighbors didn't know she had moved in. They
- 34:23Speaker 1: didn't know Rachel was now the tenant. I wonder if
- 34:26Speaker 1: other people went back to that apartment not realizing she
- 34:30Speaker 1: was the one living there.
- 34:31Speaker 7: That is a very real possibility.
- 34:33Speaker 6: And something that Ashley referenced was on Thursday night, her
- 34:37Speaker 6: first night in the apartment, there was an intruder that
- 34:41Speaker 6: had a key that came in and looked over her
- 34:43Speaker 6: as she was sleeping, and she said she thought it
- 34:48Speaker 6: was somebody that was involved with the people that were subleasing,
- 34:52Speaker 6: and saw that it was not those people and left,
- 34:55Speaker 6: and that is why she said she hadn't called the police.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Well, we know the we know it wasn't a suicide.
- 35:02Speaker 1: We know it wasn't the fiance, and Justin Entez joining
- 35:07Speaker 1: us a renowned investigator on this case. Justin, it was
- 35:12Speaker 1: at night, she was shot in the wee morning hours.
- 35:15Speaker 1: And even if the prior tenants have been cleared, what
- 35:19Speaker 1: about their dope clients and others. There was a ruckus,
- 35:23Speaker 1: there a big fight just before she moved in. Somebody
- 35:28Speaker 1: obviously had a key, could have come in into dark
- 35:31Speaker 1: and taken a shot, not realizing it was Rachel.
- 35:36Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, and that's one of the that's one of
- 35:38Speaker 4: the theories that we've been working with as.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Well with me Doctor Bree Pelegie, Board certified forensic Psychologists
- 35:45Speaker 1: at Veritas Forensics Psychology dot com. Doctor Bree, we immediately
- 35:51Speaker 1: have to look at the love interest, the fiancee. Okay,
- 35:54Speaker 1: he's ruled out his father at home with the fiance,
- 35:58Speaker 1: she's living by herself, and we we know that there
- 36:01Speaker 1: have been problems with the previous tenants that were just evicted.
- 36:05Speaker 1: In fact, one of them was selling dope. What do
- 36:08Speaker 1: you think how do you analyze random shooters?
- 36:12Speaker 9: I definitely think that this case appears to have been
- 36:17Speaker 9: a targeted attack. However, I don't think Rachel was the
- 36:21Speaker 9: intended victim. She's a low risk victim. This didn't appear
- 36:26Speaker 9: to be a personal attack. The individual that came into
- 36:31Speaker 9: our apartment the day before had keys, brought food, it
- 36:36Speaker 9: was dark, the person couldn't see. There's nothing about it
- 36:41Speaker 9: that looked like it was intended specifically for her.
- 36:44Speaker 1: So it's mistaken identity as to the target in the
- 36:48Speaker 1: dark two thirty in the morning after fiance had left.
- 36:52Speaker 1: That may explain why we're not getting a match on
- 36:54Speaker 1: the fingerprints of the people that lived there before. This
- 36:56Speaker 1: could have been someone that was coming after this and
- 37:00Speaker 1: they had a track record. Cops have been called to
- 37:03Speaker 1: the apartment several times before Rachel moved in. There is
- 37:07Speaker 1: a very important fact and that is the Families.
- 37:11Speaker 3: Go fund Me Listen Gilbert PD in the Hands and
- 37:14Speaker 3: Family is working with Silent Witness to collect tips and
- 37:17Speaker 3: offer a reward for information in Rachel Hansen's murder. Tips
- 37:20Speaker 3: can be submitted online as silentwitness dot org or called
- 37:24Speaker 3: for a zero witness for a zero WITNSS. The reward
- 37:30Speaker 3: for information leading to an arrest is up to fifteen
- 37:33Speaker 3: thousand dollars thanks to donations made through the Families go
- 37:36Speaker 3: fund Me Help the Hands in Solve Rachel's case.
- 37:39Speaker 1: The go fundme helping to raise money for the reward
- 37:43Speaker 1: that is now up to fifteen thousand dollars. Ashley hold
- 37:47Speaker 1: In joining US investigative reporter ABC fifteen Phoenix, Ashley, where
- 37:51Speaker 1: does the case stand now?
- 37:53Speaker 10: Well, in every page of that police report that we read,
- 37:56Speaker 10: it says inactive. And in that police report it says
- 38:00Speaker 10: as of February, police exhausted all of their leads and
- 38:04Speaker 10: then they took this place, to this case, to Silent Witness,
- 38:07Speaker 10: which is a nonprofit organization here in the valley that
- 38:10Speaker 10: helps to gather tips for police. Now, when we have
- 38:14Speaker 10: reached out to Gilbert Police, they still call this an
- 38:17Speaker 10: active homicide investigation, which is why they are being pretty
- 38:22Speaker 10: tight to the chest with the details that they tell us.
- 38:26Speaker 10: And I know that the Hansons really have told us
- 38:28Speaker 10: repeatedly they feel like someone out there knows something.
- 38:33Speaker 1: A fifteen thousand dollars reward. The tip line is four
- 38:36Speaker 1: eight zero nine four eight six ' three seven seven.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Repeat for eight zero nine four eight six ' three
- 38:45Speaker 1: seven seven. Kim Hansen is with us. Rachel's mom, Miss Hansen.
- 38:51Speaker 1: We cannot let this case go unsolved. What is your
- 38:56Speaker 1: message tonight, Miss Hanson?
- 38:58Speaker 6: My message is just to anybody out there that might
- 39:01Speaker 6: have heard or seen or known anything, or overheard a conversation,
- 39:07Speaker 6: just please share any information with the Silent Witness number.
- 39:11Speaker 6: We do truly believe that someone out there knows something.
- 39:16Speaker 6: We do not believe this was a random act of violence,
- 39:19Speaker 6: that it was a planned murder.
- 39:23Speaker 1: If you have information, please help us solve this case.
- 39:27Speaker 1: For A zero nine four eight six three seven seven.
- 39:31Speaker 1: There was a fifteen thousand dollars reward. Nancy Gray signing
- 39:37Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,