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Charlie Strickland ... From Schools to Ammo and Backyard Shooting Ranges · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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Speaker 1: Turning the page because that's what I do. It is
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Speaker 1: now the third hour of the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, January seventh, first Wednesday of the month,
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Speaker 1: and that means it is time. And as we were
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Speaker 1: just talking, it's been quite a while since we've had
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Speaker 1: Charlie Strickland in studio with us. Happy New Year, Mary, Christmas,
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Speaker 1: all of those things. How are you.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing fantastic. Yeah, it's been a busy new year. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: but pleasantly so accomplishing some things technically I planned to
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Speaker 2: do before the end of last year, but I'm trying
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Speaker 2: to close out last year this year. That's kind of
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Speaker 2: paying taxes. You pay them a couple of months, you
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Speaker 2: pay them for last year, and it's like, yeah, I'm
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Speaker 2: making it. I'm not anyway, it is what it is.
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Speaker 1: Well. One of the things it is as well is
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Speaker 1: as of today, the kids are back at school.
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Speaker 2: They are I spent yesterday speaking to these school safety
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Speaker 2: officers for the Lynn County School System. Okay, I was
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Speaker 2: invited in by the chief and administration to do what
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Speaker 2: I do, and that is talk to those people who
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Speaker 2: are protecting our children in the Lynn County school system today,
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Speaker 2: and I always enjoy having an opportunity to sit there
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Speaker 2: and talk to them about professionalism and mental you know,
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Speaker 2: mindset and the things that matter or whatever it is
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Speaker 2: that I'm invited to talk about that point in time.
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Speaker 2: And I look around the room and I see the
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Speaker 2: people who are there to protect our children, and I'm
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Speaker 2: encouraged to see that those people do exist and that
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Speaker 2: they do care. I mean, so that's good. You know,
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Speaker 2: every county in North Florida has a little different mix
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Speaker 2: on how they do things. You know, my children attend
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Speaker 2: Jackson County schools. You know there's a different mix there.
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Speaker 2: I feel very good about the safety there. As you know,
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Speaker 2: I love to teach. So when I have an opportunity
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Speaker 2: to go speak to someone Monday, I always spent the
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Speaker 2: entire day. I just spoke an hour, hour and a
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Speaker 2: half the other day, But on Monday, I spent the
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Speaker 2: entire day training some of my people who are private
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Speaker 2: secure the officers in some of the private schools, faith
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Speaker 2: based schools, and love doing that. Active shooters, stop to bleed,
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Speaker 2: you know, tree eyes, all of the different things, you know,
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Speaker 2: moving to contact, precision shooting, all that. A lot of
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Speaker 2: people don't realize what goes into protecting our children in
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Speaker 2: the schools today, but I do.
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Speaker 1: One of the things I beg the local school district,
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Speaker 1: and this probably goes to a lot of other school
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Speaker 1: districts that are in areas listening to the program right now,
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Speaker 1: is even if you don't allow staff to carry, even
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Speaker 1: if you don't have a lot of people on the
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Speaker 1: grounds that are resource officers, at least let people think
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Speaker 1: they're a bunch of them on the property carrying. It
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Speaker 1: was like put up a sign that says not a
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Speaker 1: gun free zone.
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Speaker 2: Whatever. Yeah, I agree with that. I can't speak to
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Speaker 2: why school boards and people make different decisions, but every
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Speaker 2: county you go into has a different version of that, right,
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Speaker 2: and so you just have to kind of you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to run for school board. I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to run for office. I don't live in I
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Speaker 2: live in one place and my kids go to school
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Speaker 2: in one place, and I have a pretty strong effect
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Speaker 2: on what goes on there because I volunteer for the
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Speaker 2: sheriff's office. I am a captain in that Sheriff's office.
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Speaker 2: I volunteer my time. I help train those people, you know,
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Speaker 2: and so I know what their capabilities are yeah, and
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Speaker 2: so it's it's I think that a lot of And
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Speaker 2: I was talking and one of the things I talked
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Speaker 2: about the other day, I says, listen, when you come
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Speaker 2: to work, people look at you and they judge you
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Speaker 2: based on what they see. Our society is perception based,
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Speaker 2: it's not performance based. What you see is what you get,
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Speaker 2: at least you think. So when you carry this goes
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Speaker 2: for anyone out there. When you carry yourself a certain
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Speaker 2: way and you look confidence and confident and competent, then
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Speaker 2: that's what people think you are. It's it may be
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Speaker 2: a complete bluff. It's like putting a burglar alarm sign
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Speaker 2: in your front yard and not having a burglar alarm.
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Speaker 2: You know, if you look like a bad dude or
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Speaker 2: a wicked woman, you know, maybe that's what you are.
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Speaker 2: They see what they perceive and and you present that
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Speaker 2: every day. And a lot of people when they go
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Speaker 2: to work. They at any job. If you when you
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Speaker 2: go to Sunday school, or you go to h a funeral,
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Speaker 2: or you go to anything that matters, you look in
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Speaker 2: the mirror before you walk out the door, and you
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Speaker 2: see what the world sees. When you go to work,
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Speaker 2: you do the same thing. You look in the mirror.
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Speaker 2: What does the world see? How do they perceive me?
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Speaker 2: Because in their minds, whoever sees, that's what you are?
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Speaker 2: You are what you you are perceived to be. And
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Speaker 2: so that professional image is important. People size you up.
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Speaker 2: They look at me and you and they go, I
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Speaker 2: can look at you and you're a green based packer fan.
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Speaker 1: Right, you just gave it up right there.
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Speaker 2: For you're wearing You're wearing the jersey, wearing the pack
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Speaker 2: you're wearing the colors. You know. So it's you want
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Speaker 2: that's something you want the world to see. Yes, that
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Speaker 2: And I want people when they look at me, I
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Speaker 2: want them to see someone who they probably shouldn't put
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Speaker 2: in a position where they get themselves hurt. And so
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Speaker 2: do I carry myself a certain way? Sure I do.
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Speaker 2: Do I make and maintain eye contact with people and
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Speaker 2: look friendly and confident? Yeah, sure I do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: You know, so you show that and then you never
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Speaker 2: have to prove that.
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Speaker 1: Back with Charlie Strickland of the Talent Training Group back
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Speaker 1: to School, let me just before we change subjects, are
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Speaker 1: there things that parents ought to be telling their kids
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Speaker 1: that just in case something happens you need to do
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Speaker 1: this or do we need to defer to whatever the
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Speaker 1: school is telling kids.
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Speaker 2: You really can't, I say, if you're a small child,
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Speaker 2: there's nothing you can really tell your children other than
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Speaker 2: follow the rules and go along with what the teachers
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Speaker 2: tell you. There are plans in place, Okay, are they
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Speaker 2: the plans I would put in a place? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't I'm you know, I have a different philosophy
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Speaker 2: on things. But the mainstream is, you know, the run, hide,
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Speaker 2: fight model. Schools have lockdown drills, there are procedures. I mean,
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Speaker 2: my company has guardians and schools that has private security
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Speaker 2: and schools. I mean, follow the procedures that are in place.
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Speaker 2: You tell your kids because an one outlier can get
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Speaker 2: everyone hurt. You know, you've got one kid that's going
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Speaker 2: to do something different, so I've told them to do
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Speaker 2: so and so. Yeah, then the teachers distracted, they're not
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Speaker 2: focusing on all the kids. Maybe they don't get the
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Speaker 2: door locked fast enough. These are for small kids, they
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Speaker 2: need to go along. High school kids a little bit different.
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Speaker 2: These are young adults. They can think for themselves, you know.
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Speaker 2: So it's hard to say. It kind of goes to
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Speaker 2: your personal philosophy. I want my kids to get the
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Speaker 2: heck out of there as fast as they can. They
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Speaker 2: need to be moving and scooting and going. But that's
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Speaker 2: just what I want my kids to do.
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Speaker 1: Would you be, regardless of the age of your kid,
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Speaker 1: whether you've got an older kid with a backpack or
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Speaker 1: a younger kid with a backpacker, would you be having
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Speaker 1: a little kevlar plate in that backpack.
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Speaker 2: It's not a bad idea. I mean, I've seen them
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Speaker 2: on the shelf of some local stores that I'm very
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Speaker 2: familiar with. I mean, they are out.
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Speaker 1: There, yeah, but I mean practically it is an option
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Speaker 1: to help fortify protection.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, I We'll tell you. I watched when
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Speaker 2: my kid goes to school every day. My son his
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Speaker 2: backpack would stop bullets just by the nature of all
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Speaker 2: the dead gun bucks, all the books that are in there. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: my lord, that thinks full of stuff. I guess Sunday
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Speaker 2: you have to take all that thirty two hours. But
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Speaker 2: that you know, yeah, I mean that there are a
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Speaker 2: lot of people that buy those for their children. I
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Speaker 2: mean it seems a little out there, just a little bit,
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Speaker 2: but I don't think so. I wear a vest when
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Speaker 2: I put on a uniform, aware a vest and plates,
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Speaker 2: wear a plate carrier. I want something that'll stop, you
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Speaker 2: know what, it needs to stop. So I don't think
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Speaker 2: if you have the means to do it and your
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Speaker 2: child doesn't think it's weird and you think they'll carry it,
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Speaker 2: it's not a bad idea.
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Speaker 1: It's to me it falls into the category better to
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Speaker 1: have and not need than need and not have.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if it were socially acceptable for children
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Speaker 2: to arm themselves in schools, I'd be the guy that
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Speaker 2: would be arming my children. I mean that sounds crazy.
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Speaker 2: It's not socially acceptable. It's not legal. You can't do it.
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Speaker 2: My kids know how to shoot, you know, they're perfectly
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Speaker 2: mentally capable of doing things reasonably. I mean, but I
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't think we should go legalize children
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Speaker 2: can against that school. I think that's silly. But I
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Speaker 2: do believe strongly that we have every bit of responsibility
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Speaker 2: to protect our children and ourselves and our families. You know,
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Speaker 2: I struggle with the concept of not doing that the
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Speaker 2: way we should, and there's a lot of places that don't.
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Speaker 2: And like I said, every community has a different way
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Speaker 2: of doing it. Yeah, I fully support what we're doing here.
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Speaker 2: I think it's the we're spending a lot of money
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Speaker 2: and doing a lot of really good things. Woul I
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Speaker 2: tweak few. Thanks you.
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Speaker 1: The jargon that people use is they call it a silencer.
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Speaker 1: It's actually a suppressor. And we're gonna talk with Charlie
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Speaker 1: we come back about suppressors and timelines and what's changed
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Speaker 1: out there, because things have changed in the last few months.
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Speaker 1: If you're not aware, just because and we're back, thank
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Speaker 1: you just makes my heart happy, just does man, it
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Speaker 1: just does all right, before we talk about suppressors and
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Speaker 1: what's going on in that world. Got a question here
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Speaker 1: that came in from carl He said, a question for
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Speaker 1: mister Strickland. What's the best way to dispose of old
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Speaker 1: AMMO that won't be used? Does Talent take them for disposal? Also,
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Speaker 1: the reloads that were sold during COVID, are they still
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Speaker 1: safe to use?
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Speaker 2: The reloads sold during COVID.
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Speaker 1: When manufacturing just dropping down?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've been selling remanufactured AMMO for years. Okay,
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Speaker 2: so when you look at reloaded or remanufactured reload, if
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Speaker 2: when I see it, when I hear reload, I'm thinking
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Speaker 2: what you did, Bubba and his shed with a with
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Speaker 2: a lead press, and you know going through you know,
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Speaker 2: a dealing sixthing whatever, going through and reloading you know
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Speaker 2: what it depends on how you stored that and how
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Speaker 2: you know, how accurate you reloaded it, and what kind
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Speaker 2: of path it depends on you. If it's your reloads,
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Speaker 2: it's your handloads, you're personally really remanufactured ammunition. I want
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Speaker 2: you to think about this. That ammunition is factory ammunition.
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Speaker 2: All they did was get the brass off the ground,
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Speaker 2: clean it up really well, check it, make sure it's
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Speaker 2: in good shape, and then put new bullets, new powder,
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Speaker 2: new primers, put it in a new box. And there's
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Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it. I mean, it's it's it is
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Speaker 2: factory ammunition, Fralts, and we sell a lot of that
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Speaker 2: for practice ammunition. We wouldn't sell that for carry rounds,
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Speaker 2: but we would sell it for practice ammunition. Is there again,
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Speaker 2: ammunition will last virtually forever if you store it correctly,
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Speaker 2: not in the heat, not the outdoor shed. Right. Well,
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Speaker 2: I mean you know it'll last a number of years.
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Speaker 1: Out there, right, But there's a limit to that, yeah, right,
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Speaker 1: if you if you if you take care of it
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Speaker 1: and store.
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Speaker 2: It it'll be fine, you're because so COVID wasn't that
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Speaker 2: many years ago. So anything that was factory, remanufactured or
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Speaker 2: remanufactured just fine. I've got some personally handloaded stuff that
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Speaker 2: I would still shoot. I wouldn't put my life on it,
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Speaker 2: but I shoot it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what about old Amo? How to dispose of it?
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Speaker 2: You can bring it to us. We'll well, we'll get
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Speaker 2: rid of it for you. The best thing to do
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Speaker 2: is to shoot it, practice with it. But if you're
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Speaker 2: shooting old Am, you want to make sure that when
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Speaker 2: you're shooting that if you get a squibb load when
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Speaker 2: it does not go boom, it goes poof, that you
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Speaker 2: stop what you're doing and make sure that the bullet
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Speaker 2: didn't go all the way down to barrel. You do
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Speaker 2: that there by, Yeah, you do that by clearing the weapon,
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Speaker 2: unloading the weapon, disassembling it, looking in the barrel once
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Speaker 2: you're disassembled it, don't don't don't go looking down the barrel.
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Speaker 2: That would be silly. Yeah. But and if you continue,
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Speaker 2: if you ever get a squib load where it goes
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Speaker 2: poof instead of boom, you need to stop shooting because
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Speaker 2: the next round may be a full power round, and
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Speaker 2: that second bullet going in a plug barrel can cause
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Speaker 2: a catastrophic failure in the firearm. I e. It'll hurt
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Speaker 2: and you might lose an eye or you know, some
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Speaker 2: blood or fingers. Just be careful. We see guns blow up.
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Speaker 2: Not often do people get seriously injured, but it happens.
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Speaker 2: So I don't have a problem shooting the old ammo.
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Speaker 2: I just wouldn't carry it. Old old stuff. You know,
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Speaker 2: if you see AMMO that's got discoloration on it. I
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Speaker 2: don't mean that the brass is tarnished. I mean that
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Speaker 2: there's blue stuff around the edges of it, or you know,
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Speaker 2: it's like a bat old battery. Yeah, certainly, Right's right.
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Speaker 2: It will get a funky look to it. Stuff comes
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Speaker 2: like that. You see stuff, I wouldn't shoot that. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you can bring it to us and just turn it in.
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Speaker 2: You can turn in at a local law enforcement agency.
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Speaker 2: They'll take it as well, okay, and they'll what they'll
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Speaker 2: do is they'll send it out. They used to, don't
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Speaker 2: know if they still do it. They would send it
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Speaker 2: out with the bomb squad and they would go out
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Speaker 2: there and cook it and make it all go pop
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Speaker 2: pop pop and dispose of it that way, that's the
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Speaker 2: safest way is to give it to someone to get
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Speaker 2: rid of.
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Speaker 1: What's going on out there in the world of suppressors
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Speaker 1: these days.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know that can be a silencer. There's ATF
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Speaker 2: calls it a silencer. Silencershop dot Com obviously calls it
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Speaker 2: a silencerre I'm sure we were always told to call
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Speaker 2: them suppressors because they're not. They don't shoot. It's really
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Speaker 2: their interchangeable terms right now. You know, we were waiting
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Speaker 2: on January one, when the two hundred dollars tax stamp
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Speaker 2: part of Big Beautiful Bill went away. No longer. They
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Speaker 2: are no longer tax stamps. You still have a certificate
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Speaker 2: that you'd get. I don't know what they're calling it now,
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Speaker 2: but it's not really a tax stamp anymorecause didn't pay
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Speaker 2: the tax. So January one, that and people were buying cans.
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Speaker 2: So I'll use cans because I don't want to offend you, Tolture.
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Speaker 2: So we're buying cans up all the way up to
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Speaker 2: December thirty first. Unfortunately, for some odd reason, they weren't
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Speaker 2: tax free like guns, and some of the accessories were
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Speaker 2: in Florida sales tax was off of other things, but
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Speaker 2: they specifically exempted silencers and suppressors. But anyway, people were
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Speaker 2: buying and waiting to apply for the tax stamp after
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Speaker 2: the first two years. Sure, so that's been and everyone
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Speaker 2: anticipated that the atfs E file system was going to
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Speaker 2: lock up and that all of the places that process
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Speaker 2: these for silence Shop, all of these places were going
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Speaker 2: to lock up, and that in fact did and it
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Speaker 2: did happen to some degree. It's working itself out There
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Speaker 2: are some there's some antidotal evidence out there on the
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Speaker 2: web that people are getting some twenty four hour turnarounds.
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Speaker 2: I think within a few days all this is going
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Speaker 2: to be caught back up. There's some glitches, but if
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Speaker 2: you're in your thinking you've been thinking about buying one,
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Speaker 2: you can save the two hundred dollars now, because that's
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Speaker 2: not part of it. You just come in, pay for
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Speaker 2: the can apply for the the not tax stamp and
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Speaker 2: wait a couple of weeks and I think he'll be fine.
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Speaker 1: Thirty five minutes past and the final two segments here
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Speaker 1: with Charlie Strickland of the Talent Training Group. Remember talent
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Speaker 1: range dot com. Go get a membership at that range,
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Speaker 1: Get some training. Hello, talk about a new Year's resolution,
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Speaker 1: prepare yourself. I shared briefly with Charlie this story, and
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Speaker 1: he'd heard about this, and I want to just give
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Speaker 1: you folks a brief overviewse brought this to my attention
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Speaker 1: Christmas Day. Guy gets a gun. He's firing a few
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Speaker 1: rounds just to kind of give it a dance. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: he wasn't paying attention to what he was doing, and
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Speaker 1: one of those rounds went far enough that it hit
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Speaker 1: a neighbor's home, went through the home and hit a
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Speaker 1: grandmother holding a grand baby and killed her. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: so first of all, I want you to address the
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Speaker 1: realities of a bullet and what happens when someone just
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Speaker 1: fires one in the air or what have you. And
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Speaker 1: then I want to take the bulk of the time, Charlie,
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Speaker 1: use your expertise to explain to people that have large
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Speaker 1: pieces of property how to and the safe way to
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Speaker 1: create a shooting range at home.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm glad you gave me so much to say
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Speaker 2: at one time. All Right, So, first off, realities of
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Speaker 2: a bullet. Bullets, Bullets kill people. Guns don't kill people.
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Speaker 2: Bullets do. So I've seen instances now you're talking about
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Speaker 2: celebratory gunfire. What goes up must come down. You do
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Speaker 2: not do that. I've been out on calls of fireworks
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Speaker 2: on the holidays when I was on the road as
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Speaker 2: a deputy, and you know, we go, oh, it's just fireworks.
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Speaker 2: And you get out there and I'm standing there talking
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Speaker 2: to somebody and all of a sudden, I here cut thunk,
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Speaker 2: and a nine millimeters bullet falls into the truck bed.
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Speaker 2: I'm leaning on talking to this guy. I'll five way twenty.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, okay, you were right. That is gunfire.
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Speaker 2: Because sometimes it's hard to tell the difference. Don't shoot
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Speaker 2: up in the air. It's just not danger. It's just
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Speaker 2: not safe. It is very dangerous to do. So when
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Speaker 2: we teach firearms, one of the things basic safety rules
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Speaker 2: be sure ever your target back stopping beyond. That's not
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Speaker 2: just on the range shooting into a pile of dirt.
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Speaker 2: That is in reality. When you're thinking about defending your home,
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Speaker 2: you need to be looking at what stops a bullet.
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Speaker 2: Does a sheet rock wall in your living room keep
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Speaker 2: the bullet that you missed the bad guy in your
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Speaker 2: house you miss, does it go then go through the
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Speaker 2: wall and into your kid's bedroom. I mean, you had
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Speaker 2: to think about these things. So when you're setting up
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Speaker 2: a gun range in your yard, and there are Florida
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Speaker 2: laws that dictate where and when you can do these things,
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Speaker 2: y'all research that make sure you're doing it right. You
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Speaker 2: may have HOMEONOSUS rules and blah blah blah, you deal
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Speaker 2: with that. Don't get into all that. But when you
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Speaker 2: are shooting on your private property, you have a duty
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Speaker 2: to make sure the round does not leave the property
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Speaker 2: or endanger anyone in any way. And you would be
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Speaker 2: amazed at where bullets can in fact go. J D
18:01
Speaker 2: and I run owning run a gun range. We've seen
18:03
Speaker 2: bullets do really weird things. Okay, bullets will hit other
18:07
Speaker 2: bullets in the dirt like a pool, like playing pool,
18:11
Speaker 2: cuball hits the number five, it goes up. But in
18:15
Speaker 2: a gun range, it goes up in the air and
18:17
Speaker 2: can do what we call a PLoP, you know bullet,
18:20
Speaker 2: not the round that gets fired, that's a ricochet. But
18:23
Speaker 2: another bullet gets hit, goes up in air, falls down
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Speaker 2: and funk, you know. And it's no different than dropping
18:29
Speaker 2: something off the third or fourth floor, you know window.
18:31
Speaker 2: It may not kill you, but it might leave a bruise.
18:35
Speaker 2: Shooting from your property. Those bullets will carry and you
18:39
Speaker 2: think you're shooting into the woods. We had an instance
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Speaker 2: right here in Leon County where I went out up
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Speaker 2: this little road to a guy's house and it was
18:50
Speaker 2: a home. There was a family sitting in the dining
18:53
Speaker 2: room behind a sliding glass door having dinner, and a
18:56
Speaker 2: bullet broke the sliding glass window, came into the house.
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Speaker 2: Didn't hurt anybody, didn't hit anybody, but it could have.
19:04
Speaker 2: And they were like, we don't understand what happened. And
19:07
Speaker 2: so I'd go to the neighbor's property and there's a
19:10
Speaker 2: pile of firewood out there in the yard and some
19:13
Speaker 2: trash with bullet holes in it. And the guy's been
19:16
Speaker 2: out in the yard shooting sort of uphill into this
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Speaker 2: pile of firewood and some cans and stuff. Perfectly legal,
19:24
Speaker 2: except then on the other side, I said, pile of
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Speaker 2: firewood is a vacant lot. There's you know, maybe half
19:31
Speaker 2: an acre or so, but there weren't enough tree limbs
19:34
Speaker 2: or anything to stop the around went in and hit.
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Speaker 2: He could have killed somebody. Now he was very remorseful.
19:40
Speaker 2: I mean, you could tell when I told him what happened.
19:42
Speaker 2: I mean he was said to a stomach. I mean
19:44
Speaker 2: he was like, I'm so sorry. Well, what if he
19:46
Speaker 2: had killed somebody? Yeah, you know that's jail time. That's
19:49
Speaker 2: and tragic is tragic for everyone. It was a family,
19:51
Speaker 2: there was kids in there. So we had a case
19:54
Speaker 2: where a bullet hit a school bus here in Leon
19:56
Speaker 2: County fifteen years ago. Somebody sighting in or rifle out
20:00
Speaker 2: on a power line eisement some hire or another. And
20:03
Speaker 2: if you look at it, you wouldn't think the bullet
20:05
Speaker 2: would escape that area because shooting down into a hole
20:07
Speaker 2: and bullet carried hit a school bus. I mean, it happens.
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Speaker 2: You can see the physical evidence of it. The person
20:14
Speaker 2: who was fighting in the rifle was like, that was
20:16
Speaker 2: not my intention. There's no way that bullet got over
20:18
Speaker 2: there were the only person around their shooting. Just please,
20:22
Speaker 2: you know, put up a pile of dirt. Yeah, I
20:25
Speaker 2: want to talk more about that.
20:26
Speaker 1: I want to talk about some of the things that
20:28
Speaker 1: are important to include in your home range. Okay, final
20:33
Speaker 1: segment here with Chartlie Strickland of the Talent Training Group.
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Speaker 1: Talentrange dot com is the website you can learn all
20:39
Speaker 1: you need to know about training classes, different things that
20:41
Speaker 1: are available. So somebody's got a big piece of property,
20:44
Speaker 1: they want to do the right thing. They find out
20:46
Speaker 1: from you know, whatever covenants and restrictions exist, they can
20:50
Speaker 1: do this. They have the adequate property, the adequate zoning.
20:53
Speaker 1: They can put a range up in their yard. What
20:55
Speaker 1: do they need to do?
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Speaker 2: Well? First, I would if you have neighbors within ear shot,
21:00
Speaker 2: I'd let them know what you're doing. I mean, just say, hey,
21:02
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put up a gun range here, keep your
21:04
Speaker 2: shooting the reasonable hours, come see us by suppressor, silencer,
21:10
Speaker 2: and keep it quiet. You know, just just keep it quiet.
21:14
Speaker 2: But no, seriously, you need you have an absolute responsibility
21:18
Speaker 2: to ensure that those rounds do not leave the property. Now,
21:22
Speaker 2: if you're sitting on hundreds of acres and you're shooting
21:25
Speaker 2: in an area where you know that I'm going into
21:29
Speaker 2: a hillside or something, then use some common sense. But
21:32
Speaker 2: that's not always the case. I mean, most people are
21:34
Speaker 2: on ten acres, five acres, twenty acres, and you can
21:37
Speaker 2: put a gun range in there. You still need to
21:40
Speaker 2: be cautious and we'll go out at midnight shooting your pistol.
21:43
Speaker 2: You know, waking up all the neighbors. You'll get a
21:44
Speaker 2: really complain But seriously, though you invest in, go rent
21:50
Speaker 2: attractor for the weekend with a bucket on the front
21:53
Speaker 2: and go dig you a hole and pile up some dirt.
21:56
Speaker 2: Or call a dirt hauling company. Call around to some
21:59
Speaker 2: of these plumbing or some of the dirt play good. Listen.
22:02
Speaker 2: If you've got some old dirt you know you need,
22:04
Speaker 2: you know what would what would you charge me to
22:05
Speaker 2: bring me some scrap dirt? You don't have to buy
22:08
Speaker 2: really really good dirt. Get you some clean field sanding,
22:11
Speaker 2: and probably six seven hundred dollars for a dump truck load.
22:13
Speaker 2: You're going to need several dump truck loads if you're
22:15
Speaker 2: going to do it right. But just shoot into a
22:17
Speaker 2: pile of dirt. If you want to use half the dirt,
22:21
Speaker 2: then build you a retaining wall behind it with landscaping
22:25
Speaker 2: timbers or railroad ties, and then you can pile dirt
22:28
Speaker 2: up against that and that'll do two things. One, the
22:31
Speaker 2: soft dirt will catch it. You only have to use
22:33
Speaker 2: half the dirt because instead of having a forty five
22:36
Speaker 2: degree slope on the front and a forty five degree
22:38
Speaker 2: slope on the back, then you only have the forty
22:40
Speaker 2: five degree slope and it's not You literally cut the
22:42
Speaker 2: amount of dirt that you use in half by using
22:44
Speaker 2: retaining wall, and then you have something solid behind it,
22:47
Speaker 2: so if you do miss or skip, then you've got
22:49
Speaker 2: something to catch it. I mean, that's just basic. You
22:52
Speaker 2: know range construction one O one.
22:54
Speaker 1: That crescent shape, semi circle.
22:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you if you're going to be
22:59
Speaker 2: doing any type of dynamic shooting, you would like to
23:01
Speaker 2: have some sidewalls, something so that you know you're shooting
23:04
Speaker 2: at a backstop, but also on the left and the
23:06
Speaker 2: right you have something that'll catch a ricochet or if
23:09
Speaker 2: you change your angle a little bit. It depends on
23:11
Speaker 2: how robust you want your shooting to be, if you're
23:13
Speaker 2: just going to go shoot one single target in the backyard.
23:17
Speaker 2: Even my mom and my stepdad have a pile of
23:19
Speaker 2: dirt in their backyard and they lived on thirty acres,
23:22
Speaker 2: and before Robert would go shoot out there because there's
23:26
Speaker 2: family property behind it in the river back there. He
23:28
Speaker 2: gaues there might be somebody back there. He had somebody
23:30
Speaker 2: bring in a big pile of dirt that we're doing
23:31
Speaker 2: some construction nearby. I mean think about that. Yeah, dirt
23:35
Speaker 2: is your friend when it comes to a gun range.
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Speaker 1: When you talk about that retaining wall, the height of
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Speaker 1: the pile of dirt.
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Speaker 2: I would be at least head high. Okay, if depending
23:48
Speaker 2: on the distance you're going to be shooting from and
23:50
Speaker 2: what's on the other side, and you're shooting skill. You know,
23:54
Speaker 2: if it's me shooting a rifle, I don't need much
23:56
Speaker 2: of a backstop because I don't miss that far. Sure,
24:00
Speaker 2: I would start up, I would start shooting close in
24:02
Speaker 2: to make sure I'm where I need to be before
24:04
Speaker 2: I start extending my ranges. But yeah, I would go
24:08
Speaker 2: at least head high. As a general rule.
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Speaker 1: Is there a max range you would advise for a
24:12
Speaker 1: home range for rifle one hundred yards?
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Speaker 2: It depends on what's behind it and how much plan
24:18
Speaker 2: you have. So if you've got enough room for a
24:21
Speaker 2: thousand yard range, you're going to shoot out. So I
24:23
Speaker 2: say five hundred yards going to shoot out there. It's
24:27
Speaker 2: easy to shoot over a burn at that distance. You
24:29
Speaker 2: need about another half a mile behind it of nothing
24:32
Speaker 2: there to hit because at some point in time you're
24:34
Speaker 2: going to miss that little pile of dirty pushed up
24:36
Speaker 2: and that bullet's going to keep going. But you got
24:38
Speaker 2: to compare it to hunting. When you go hunting, you
24:41
Speaker 2: need to have the same concerns. You're not going to
24:43
Speaker 2: put up a pile of dirt in front of where
24:44
Speaker 2: your deercorn's at, but you certainly need to know where
24:47
Speaker 2: that round is going. Yeah, but you're typically not typically
24:50
Speaker 2: not hunting, and there's a lot of people live up
24:51
Speaker 2: in Colornin Lakes would have loved to hunt in their backyard.
24:54
Speaker 2: I recommend a bow for that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, always good to see if thanks for coming in.