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Monday Mini: The Eclipse · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to stuff I never told you protection iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 3: And welcome to another Monday, Minnie. And uh, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: we're doing something a little late. A lot of the times,
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  Speaker 3: we're pretty much on point.
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  Speaker 1: This time, we're about a.
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  Speaker 3: Week behind, honestly, and we're talking specifically about the solar eclipse.
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  Speaker 3: So if y'all were able to see it, cool with
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  Speaker 3: at a funeral, So I missed the chunk of it,
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  Speaker 3: but I did get to see like the trees, and
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  Speaker 3: my niece whom I got to see, had her glasses
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  Speaker 3: to let me look. It was really funny though, because
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  Speaker 3: I forget what the glasses are supposed to do and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't see anything. That was the reaction
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  Speaker 3: the entire time, and I was like, oh, there it
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  Speaker 3: is when I finally searched that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: My friend was like that too. She's like, they're not
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  Speaker 2: working and I was like, no, they're working, so she
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  Speaker 2: can't direct. Someone showed me where it go.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, So because of that, I thought it would
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  Speaker 3: be fun if we looked at some superstitions that are
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  Speaker 3: associated with it, as well as if we have had
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  Speaker 3: previous episodes about superstitions and people using it, believing it,
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  Speaker 3: and or making fun of it being very gender Interestingly enough,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot more conversations we've had about it with cults.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked about it with Christianity like that. It goes
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  Speaker 3: a long way and a little bit about that type
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  Speaker 3: of belief system, and I think a lot of it
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  Speaker 3: has been used to manipulate people. I know there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of conversations recently on TikTok because of a major
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  Speaker 3: influencer who kind of went extreme, and people are calling
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  Speaker 3: it spiritual psychosis or also known as mystic psychosis. But
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  Speaker 3: that's a whole different conversation, very sad conversation on that
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  Speaker 3: one specifically, but which I find fascinating because I definitely
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  Speaker 3: got caught up in that spiritual realm of what the
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  Speaker 3: spirit was telling me to do, and now that I
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  Speaker 3: look back on and I was like, wow, interesting, But
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  Speaker 3: that's not what we're talking about today. We're actually talking
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  Speaker 3: about the superstitions and or tales I guess of what
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  Speaker 3: different cultures talk about with the solar eclipse, And for
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  Speaker 3: those of us in the United States, the next one,
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  Speaker 3: just in case you're wondering, should be happening in twenty
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  Speaker 3: forty four. Yay, exactly twenty years away. I guess that's
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  Speaker 3: that's about right. I don't know how all this works.
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  Speaker 3: You had no solar systems, things, planets traveling. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 3: what I got, So keep that in mind for the
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  Speaker 3: next twenty years. So if we're still doing podcasts or
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  Speaker 3: whatever next form it is, if I haven't retired by that,
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  Speaker 3: I'm very sad.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to know this.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, that's a fault, right right anyway, so many creatures
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  Speaker 4: are blamed for the cause of the solar eclipse for
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  Speaker 4: different cultures, including wolves, dogs, dragons, and even frogs.
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  Speaker 1: That's fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: According to the site timeandates dot com, here are some
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  Speaker 3: stories from different cultures of what is happening with the
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  Speaker 3: solar eclips Also, go ahead and put this out there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really trying with the pronunciations, just because we're trying
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  Speaker 3: to go through it pretty quickly. I apologize if I
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  Speaker 3: mispronunciate something, Please let me know how to do it correctly,
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  Speaker 3: and we'll come back and I we'll just do a
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  Speaker 3: whole episode of correcting myself. So of all the words
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  Speaker 3: that I can't say.
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  Speaker 2: Do just mispronounce pronunciation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, shut it any except for you don't tell
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  Speaker 3: me what to.
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  Speaker 4: Do, okay, Sorry anyway.
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  Speaker 3: So, the Pomo, an indigenous group of people who live
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  Speaker 3: in the northwestern United States, tell a story of a
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  Speaker 3: bear who starts to fight with the sun and takes
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  Speaker 3: a bite out of it. So, in fact, the Pomo
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  Speaker 3: name for the solar eclips is the Sun got bit
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  Speaker 3: by a bear. After taking a bite of the Sun
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  Speaker 3: and resolving their conflict, the bear, as the story goes,
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  Speaker 3: went on to meet the Moon and take a bite
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  Speaker 3: out of the Moon as well, causing a lunar eclipse.
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  Speaker 3: The story may have been their way of explaining why
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  Speaker 3: a solar eclipse happens around two weeks before or after
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  Speaker 3: a lunar eclipse.
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  Speaker 1: So I like that one take it up by that.
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  Speaker 3: The moon in Korea is believed a pack of fire
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  Speaker 3: dogs was ordered by a keen to steal the Sun
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  Speaker 3: and the Moon, according to the National Folk Museum of Korea,
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  Speaker 3: which I did go back to look up and it's
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  Speaker 3: not there. So, but when the dogs captured the Sun,
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  Speaker 3: it was too hot for them to hold, and when
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  Speaker 3: the dogs captured the moon, it was too cold.
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  Speaker 1: For them to hold.
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  Speaker 3: So it's believed that an eclipse occurs when the dogs
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  Speaker 3: are biting the Sun and the moon. There's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of biting happening of these of these.
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  Speaker 1: Sun and Moon. Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: According to Inuit folklore, the sun goddess Melina walked away
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  Speaker 3: after a fight with the moon god a Ningen. A
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  Speaker 3: solar eclipse happened when a Ningen managed to hitch up
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  Speaker 3: with his sister at that point.
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  Speaker 1: So there's that. I like that one, butter than the biding.
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  Speaker 1: All the creatures are fun though, and.
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  Speaker 3: With all of these different allures, there are different superstitions
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  Speaker 3: that have evolved around it. According to one Latin more quote,
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  Speaker 3: there's a belief that babies could be born with facial
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  Speaker 3: defects due to change in the atmosphere. The superstition is
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  Speaker 3: that pregnant women should stay inside and take precautions because
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  Speaker 3: the Sun's magnetic filled could suck or eat away the
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  Speaker 3: lip area of the fetus. Pregnant women are told where
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  Speaker 3: red undergarments or red ribbons and place safety pins or
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  Speaker 3: some type of metal on their bellies to protect themselves,
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  Speaker 3: and in some cultures, pregnant women are told to lie
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  Speaker 3: flat on the floor and not move during the eclipse,
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  Speaker 3: or keep something metallic like scissors underneath a bed or pillow.
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  Speaker 3: And I saw that on TikTok too. Was funny because
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  Speaker 3: I was looking up the superstition first and then it
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  Speaker 3: popped up because you know, we're being spied on. But
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  Speaker 3: it showed up as a non Latina pregnant women being
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  Speaker 3: told you have to do this, so their Latina friends
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  Speaker 3: would put a red red arm around them and then
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  Speaker 3: a ring.
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  Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people in rings.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was really specific to protect the baby.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of one of those things I guess they
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  Speaker 3: did say, is like safe safe than sorry, I might
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  Speaker 3: as well do it. I think that's a way of
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  Speaker 3: some superstitions myself that I'm like, might as well not tempted, so,
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  Speaker 3: you know, knock on wood type of thing, which is
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  Speaker 3: absurd in itself, but you know, and apparently this the
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  Speaker 3: ruse of the superstition goes all the way back to
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  Speaker 3: the Aztec culture, who quit believe that an eclipse was
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  Speaker 3: a bite on the face of the moon. So that
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  Speaker 3: same conversation againt a lot of biting, a lot of biting.
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  Speaker 2: I can see it. It's like a kind of devouring almos.
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  Speaker 3: I could see that, I guess instead of just covering over.
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  Speaker 3: But okay, right, And then they're many other cultures who
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  Speaker 3: see the solar eclips as rebirth. So the Wabanaki Nation
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  Speaker 3: located in Maine, they celebrate this time as a renewal.
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  Speaker 3: That from mainpublic dot org quote for us, it's really
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  Speaker 3: celebrating renewal and rebirth and planting our energies. We did
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  Speaker 3: some things that we didn't advertise, So they had a
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  Speaker 3: festival just within our own community and had a sacred fire,
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  Speaker 3: and we have sacred pipes that we take out that
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  Speaker 3: we do things with really to pray and to give
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  Speaker 3: things and all of that. We're doing that separate from
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  Speaker 3: their own community festival. So a lot of them had
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  Speaker 3: different activities going on to.
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  Speaker 1: Celebrate the solar eclipse as rebirth.
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  Speaker 3: And I've seen that in a conversation throughout different Native
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  Speaker 3: TikTok influencers talking about how this was the beginning, It's
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  Speaker 3: like restarting. I also saw conversations about like if you
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  Speaker 3: get sick after the eclipse, that that's your body restarting itself.
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  Speaker 3: It's like that's a good thing. It's like getting it's
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  Speaker 3: all the bad energy, and I was like, uh, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's not good for me. I was suppressed. Is that
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  Speaker 3: count of sickness? And there are many from the native
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  Speaker 3: communities again who see it all as a rebirth, and
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  Speaker 3: different beliefs and religions see it as a spiritual time
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  Speaker 3: as well. So Buddhists believe specifically that this energy is
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  Speaker 3: of a positive and negative actions is multiplied during major
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  Speaker 3: astronomical events such as the solar eclipse, so something specifically
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  Speaker 3: from the Mahayana tradition. Both lunar and solar eclips are
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  Speaker 3: auspicious days for spiritual practices. Once pokesperson said it represents
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  Speaker 3: the positive karmic results of good intentions and actions, and
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  Speaker 3: it's generated on lunar eclips is multiplied by seven hundred
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  Speaker 3: thousand and on a solar eclipse by one hundred million.
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  Speaker 3: And some of the recommended spiritual activities on these days
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  Speaker 3: include chanting mantras and sutras, which I didn't do. That
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  Speaker 3: probably would have been a good idea. Some Christians believe
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  Speaker 3: that it is a sign of the end times, which
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  Speaker 3: is not too surprised and often is a representation of
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  Speaker 3: the three hours of darkness that happened during Jesus's crucifixion,
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  Speaker 3: and of course the number three is a holy marker.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm church leaders dot com and this is the
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  Speaker 3: quote from this specifically website supported by numerous prominent evangelical pastors,
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  Speaker 3: said that the darkness depicted the Three Gospels quote represents
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  Speaker 3: a profound spiritual transition. The temporary obscuring of the sun
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  Speaker 3: juxtaposed within the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus offers a powerful
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  Speaker 3: metaphor for the transient nature of despair and the eternal
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  Speaker 3: promise of salvation and rebirth. So obviously that's that whole
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  Speaker 3: level of renewal. Jesus died on the cross for your sins,
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  Speaker 3: and now after three hours of darkness, whoo, sun came out.
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  Speaker 3: Except we only had like thirty seconds of kind of
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  Speaker 3: shady darkness. I guess the other areas had actual darkness.
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  Speaker 3: Those who were not in that area, we didn't get that.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe it doesn't remembers the same things. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, I thought it was really interesting to look
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  Speaker 3: at those types of tales and supernatual because it is
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  Speaker 3: such a big marker, and now that we have a
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  Speaker 3: little more science behind it, we understand what's going on
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  Speaker 3: a little better or accept it as being told by scientists.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you scientists, as where old school thought really brought
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  Speaker 3: out a lot of more mysticism and conversations along those lines.
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  Speaker 3: I do believe like atmosphere changes, whether it's based on
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  Speaker 3: SIUs or not, with like things like this, whether it's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: darkness or you seeing the clips through the leaves which
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  Speaker 3: is really really cool through trees. I didn't believe my
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  Speaker 3: partner and he kept saying that. I was like nah, nah,
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  Speaker 3: and then I was like, okay, fine, you're right anyway.
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  Speaker 3: But like having these types of stories and conversations is
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  Speaker 3: also talking about a lot about what we've talked about
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  Speaker 3: previously with heritage and passing down stories and why it's
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  Speaker 3: important to have these types of conversations and these stories
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  Speaker 3: passed along. Even though things have changed and we know
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  Speaker 3: a little more, it's still important to know this because
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  Speaker 3: it does bring a lot of historical context to what
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  Speaker 3: we knew back then of how things worked. And I
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  Speaker 3: think it's important to see and it doesn't isn't surprising,
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  Speaker 3: like how different cultures saw it differently, whether it was
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  Speaker 3: a hex or bad omen versus renewal rebirth is really
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  Speaker 3: interesting to have that conversation about times like that.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say people are still talking about it,
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  Speaker 2: including elected officials here in the US saying some things.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh wow, okay, we'll see what's going.
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  Speaker 1: On in twenty forty four.
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  Speaker 3: I guess. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listeners, if you did anything cool for the eclipse,
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