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- 0:00It's thirty eight. All bills can win In here, Wake puts it down.
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- 1:46In tonight's episode of Disguised Coverage, we are doing the first and only mock
- 1:52draft of the season for this show, but doing a lot of building the
- 1:56Buffalo Bills. I knew I was gonna stumble over that building the Buffalo Bill's
- 2:00big board. That is a bit of a tongue twister, like the Sally
- 2:02she sells by the Sea. I can't even do that, forget it.
- 2:05We've been building the big Board for the past several weeks, roughly four installments
- 2:08of that episode, different guests, different perspectives, different viewpoints and focuses when
- 2:15it comes to who and what the Bill should be targeting in the twenty twenty
- 2:17four NFL Draft, and it's led us to this mock draft moment. So
- 2:22in tonight's episode, we're gonna be talking players, evaluations, targets, picks,
- 2:25selections, a whole bunch of different things. And to do that in
- 2:29this episode, I am joined by not one of my favorite guests, although
- 2:34he does following this, but one of my favorite people used to be on
- 2:36the brand. Now he's moved on to bigger and better things and left us
- 2:39the little people behind. But you you've known him for being on the show
- 2:44a whole bunch. He was one of the co hosts of the Cover One
- 2:46Filmer with myself and Eric Turner. Mister Kendall, Mursky, Kendall, I
- 2:51appreciate you coming down from your pedestal in your mountaintop to hang out with the
- 2:54little people like myself. Thank you for taking the time. Welcome to the
- 2:58show. Do that to me, man, don't don't. Don't do that
- 3:01to me. This is a great place to be. I'm so happy to
- 3:05be back here for the first and only mock draft this season on Disgui's coverage.
- 3:08Honestly, honored. I've been keeping up to all of your draft content.
- 3:15Like, honestly, I'm so looped in this year because of the guests
- 3:19you've had, because of the content that you've created the last what four or
- 3:22five weeks with this program that you set forward with the draft board. It's
- 3:25it's awesome, man. Like, in a season that I really haven't had
- 3:30a lot of time to scout, it's it's awesome to kind of put together
- 3:35just not a consensus, but just a general idea of like, Okay,
- 3:38these guys have these evaluations on this guy. These guys have this valuation on
- 3:43that guy. And kind of piece work it together and kind of fall somewhere
- 3:46in a realm of knowing something on these guys without watching a whole lot of
- 3:51films. So it's sweet, man, it's sweet to be a part of
- 3:53it today. And yeah, happy to be back. No, I appreciate
- 3:57that. I appreciate your analysis and thoughts of how the show has been going
- 4:00this offseason in the series, and a little peak for those behind the curtain.
- 4:04Before I did that big board series, I texted Kendall was like,
- 4:06hey, man, like random thought for you, Like, what do you
- 4:10think if I kind of did this series or did the direction of the show.
- 4:12And I mean you know this because you know you were in this game
- 4:15with us and with me, Like it's so tough this time of year.
- 4:17Yeah, because again I'm not saying this negatively or disparagingly, but pretty much
- 4:23everyone is just doing like mock draft, mock draft, mock draft like week
- 4:25in and week out and good thought exercises, but at stale one hundred percent.
- 4:30And I didn't want to do that, especially doing it like week after
- 4:32week, like how much is really changing? Like granted you might be able
- 4:35to tweak some things and be like, oh, this week, we're going
- 4:38to focus on trying to trade up. This week, we're going to focus
- 4:40on trading back. This week, we're going to do you know, aiming
- 4:43for a receiver in Rome. But you also really could just do that on
- 4:46Twitter kind of like and post the results. So I didn't want to do
- 4:48that too much. I didn't even know if I was going to do a
- 4:51mock draft episode. But then with win the kind of one off bonus episode
- 4:56with Dan Brugler yesterday, I was thinking like, what should what should I
- 5:00do for this one? And so I was like, yeah, let's do
- 5:01a mock draft next week. I'm gonna have Bruce Nolan on the show.
- 5:04We're gonna play a bunch of you know, fill in the blanks and superlatives,
- 5:08kind of a bit of a game when it comes to the Buffalo Bill's
- 5:11draft. So I'm excited for that one. I was like, what should
- 5:13I do for this one? And I was debating not even doing one because
- 5:15I did the Brugler one. I was like, I'll do a mock draft,
- 5:17and I was like, who should I get? I texted you you
- 5:19were down and it's I'm pumped to have you here. Oh this is awesome
- 5:23comment from Jason. Jason says, Wow, Kendall's showing up is like a
- 5:26surprise appearance on the Monday night Raw after Mania. That is a fantastic comment.
- 5:31That is absolutely tremendous from Jason. Oh. Actually, speaking of comments,
- 5:35we gotta circle back. Before we even went live, Justin came in
- 5:40one. Justin, appreciate you being here too, Thank you very much for
- 5:43commenting three. Thank you very much for the super chat and the kind words.
- 5:46He gave two super chats. So Kendall, we got to lead off
- 5:47with this. So Justin in his first one says, love your work,
- 5:50Aunt, appreciate you Justin, thank you for that very much. For that,
- 5:53he says, Bean is aggressive as he traded a three for Douglas and
- 5:57he trades up if he has multiple picks in a round. Do you think
- 6:00he trades one of the two's for next year in order to move up this
- 6:03year? What are your thoughts on that? That's been a little bit of
- 6:05a I think a conversation piece after the Bills made that Digs trade and seeing
- 6:11that too, and I think that's a thought that's crept into you know,
- 6:15Justin's mind here and not just his you know, several people kind of been
- 6:16discussing that a little bit, like, do you think Bean tries to use
- 6:19that extra two next year in order to move up potentially this year in round
- 6:24one or in you know, maybe a Day two something like that. I
- 6:28do think he's thinking about moving up. I mean, we've seen Bean move
- 6:33up exclusively in his tenure as Bill's GM. The only time he hasn't was
- 6:38when he had a top ten pick. Like the Bills are consistently in the
- 6:42back end of the draft, and I don't think he likes taking guys that
- 6:45he has a round two great on in round one. I don't think he
- 6:48enjoys that. So he tries to move up a little bit and grab his
- 6:53guy the last you know, few guys that he can target with around one
- 6:56grade. I think that's just how he operates. And we have two two's
- 7:00next year, and one of them is a Minnesota pick who right now has
- 7:04Sam Darnold as the starting quarterback. So be terrible, have it been like
- 7:09pick thirty three and right like, honestly get rid of our pick, and
- 7:12we hold on to two top forty picks in theory for twenty twenty five.
- 7:17So I think it's a very real possibility. The question becomes what position,
- 7:21and I know everyone's like, oh, it's wide receiver. It's wide receiver,
- 7:25Like it could very well be edge. Like let's not get ourselves like
- 7:30Brandon Bean is he's gonna take premium positions, dude. I tweeted that earlier
- 7:34day wide receiver isn't a premium position, but like, come on, guys,
- 7:39it could absolutely be Edge. I tweeted earlier today that I was like,
- 7:43I don't know if this is polarizing or not. I was like,
- 7:45but like, I don't remember the exact version, but I basically said,
- 7:48like I if I had to trade into the teens, I would much rather
- 7:51do it for like Jared Verse than I would any receiver outside the top three.
- 7:57And it's not one of those top three, guys, give me one
- 8:00of the top three. But still, predictably, people were people were mad
- 8:03that it wasn't a receiver because of that receiver train. I think, like,
- 8:09this is a great question from Justin, and I think you're ye spot
- 8:11on, Like I think it has to be considered. I also wonder too,
- 8:13if it This is the thought that keeps coming into my mind, like
- 8:18if they were to make that proposed deal with Chicago because Chicago's sitting there at
- 8:22nine. They don't have a lot of draft picks this year in this class,
- 8:24and I wonder do the Bills use that too, or does having that
- 8:28two from Minnesota, do they potentially package next year's first and move up try
- 8:35to move up to nine if like Romo Dunese is there, or maybe it's
- 8:39neighbors instead, like do they try to make a move for one of the
- 8:41Big three, knowing that they can either use to one of the twos that
- 8:46they have next year, or they can sit there and be like, no,
- 8:48we're just gonna have two twos and no one because we traded up for
- 8:52one of the Big three. Like I feel like in some way it could
- 8:54lead to a move up, whether it's the big one like the big home
- 8:58run swing for one of the Big three if they fall, or and not
- 9:01necessarily if they fall, like if one of them makes it to number nine
- 9:05at Chicago, which I think is a possibility for sure, or again being
- 9:07used in some way to Dallas Turner Fel or Jared Versfel or Byron Murphy is
- 9:13falling, or some premium dude on the D line that again, we know
- 9:18that they believe in building the defense out from the D line out, and
- 9:20the D line is the engine. Like I even despite how big that need
- 9:24is at receiver, I still one hundred percent. Man. I could see
- 9:28them trading up and like Brian Thomas being there and everybody being like yeah,
- 9:31and then they're like they take Verse or Murphy and people would be so bad.
- 9:35I don't know, man, like if it loves it, if it's
- 9:39Verse or a lot too. I'm I'm personally of the mind where I think
- 9:43I'd rather have one of those guys than anyone outside the top three wide receivers.
- 9:48And like you said, like the cost to move up to get one
- 9:54of the big three wide receivers, I get it. I get the talent
- 9:58that they are. Yeah, but we've talked about it, honestly over the
- 10:01last like six eight months whatever it's been. These next two drafts are so
- 10:07foundational for this team, Like because of what they did hitting the reset button,
- 10:11the joke we made like, no, they didn't hit the reset button,
- 10:13they slammed the reset button. Like they absolutely slammed it. So you
- 10:18have to nail these next two drafts. And I mean, yeah, the
- 10:22Bills have had success drafting later rounds, honestly more so than they have late
- 10:26in the first round. But I still think you gotta keep that first round
- 10:31pick just I don't know, just more AMMO for the future, Like it's
- 10:35just has a better hit rate, But I don't know, maybe not historically
- 10:39for the Bills. I can see both sides of the argument, but just
- 10:43right now in the life cycle for the Bills, I want to be a
- 10:45little bit more calculated with the trade ups. And I'm traditionally on the mindset
- 10:50of give me as many bites at the apple and the draft as I can
- 10:52have, or as many swings at the plate, throws at the dart board,
- 10:54whatever verbide you want to use, just because the draft is a crapshoot
- 10:58no matter how sure a prospect may be, I prefer to have multiple options.
- 11:03But again to your point, I do want understand the other side,
- 11:05and like, if the Bills trade up and they get Romo Dune, say
- 11:07like, I'm not gonna be mad unless they say, unless they pulled a
- 11:11Mike Dicka and sacrificed the entire class. I might be like, no,
- 11:13that's probably a little ill advised, But yeah, you see both sides and
- 11:18it's funny either way. We got another super chat from Justin. In between.
- 11:20We had a nice comment here from Amy says, go bills, thank
- 11:22you in advance. Aunt us Mafia always appreciates you. I appreciate you,
- 11:26Amy and the kind of words. Thank you very much for that. But
- 11:28Justin gave us another super chat. In a scenario it looks like Justin says,
- 11:31he looks like in a mock he did. I went all Belichick and
- 11:35traded down from twenty eight twice. Oh, I like this already, and
- 11:39ended up with forty nine, sixty, sixty nine and eighty. I traded
- 11:45twenty eight, one sixty three and one sixty three to the Chargers for thirty
- 11:48seven and sixty nine, traded with the Bengals for forty nine and eighty,
- 11:52gave up thirty six, one sixty. Do you trade up or down?
- 11:56This is an interesting scenario because I've talked about this a bunch again. This
- 11:58is all dependent on if the board falls right. In a perfect world,
- 12:03I want as many Day two picks as I can have, and initially I'm
- 12:07talking small, like trade from twenty eight to like thirty five or thirty six
- 12:11and pick up like pick ninety four or pick in the late eighties, like
- 12:16give me a third round pick that the Bill should have had if they didn't
- 12:18get screwed out of the Comppick formulae. I still don't understand that, and
- 12:22when we never will because it's a secret like the Krabby Patty formula. So
- 12:26I was expecting the third round pick, didn't get it. I am a
- 12:30fan of the idea of trading down, and in this situation where Justin says
- 12:33you went all Belichick, I really like the idea of basically like you dropped
- 12:39from twenty eight. Granted it's a steep drop to forty nine, but having
- 12:43forty nine, sixty, sixty nine, and eighty I like that a lot
- 12:48because I think there's so much value on Day two for this draft, especially
- 12:52in round two. And then again, just where the Bills sit now they
- 12:54have picked sixty, they don't pick again until one twenty eight. That's sixty
- 12:58eight guys that are going between your second and your third pick, which is
- 13:01a huge gap. On this example here, what do you think you a
- 13:05fan of justice move here or of the general philosophy of trading down versus trading
- 13:09up or you know, are you just kind of a stampat what are your
- 13:11thoughts? I'm I'm usually much more partial to trading down. I like this
- 13:18scenario, and not only just because of the range that he got like you
- 13:20laid out, but also the Bills have so many picks the next two drafts
- 13:26combined. This gives them a lot of flexibility in this specific scenario to make
- 13:31incremental like five pick jumps in the day two range to go and snipe their
- 13:37guys, like between picks you know, forty and one hundred, they can
- 13:41move up five to ten picks because they have so much going on in next
- 13:46year's draft, and on Day three of this year's draft just just move up
- 13:50a little bit to get their guy and make sure that they don't get their
- 13:52guy taken from them. I think that's fair, and I do wonder,
- 13:56like I really could see a scenario though of like moving down, moving up,
- 14:00moving down, moving up, Like I wonder how much staining assets to
- 14:03then use those assets. But it is so tough because it draft day trades
- 14:07similar to real NFL trades, Like it always takes two to dance, and
- 14:11it's like to be able to make that many moves you need those partners,
- 14:16But I am a fan of you know again, I want to accumulate as
- 14:18many as much Day two capital as positive, whether that means as possible,
- 14:22whether that means potentially trading out of twenty eight or I mean, this is
- 14:26harder, but like trying to convert some of that day three quantity into more
- 14:31Day two quality would be But again that's tough. Like no one's gonna be
- 14:35like, no one's gonna be like, yeah, I'll give you seven.
- 14:37No, yeah, I'll give you my third for two, sixth, then
- 14:41a seventh. Sure, I'd love to do I'll move back ten spots for
- 14:45that. Yeah, sure, yeah. It's it's tough to find that,
- 14:48but it's possible. It's a little more possible, especially for a team like
- 14:52the Cardinals or you know, someone who's really really rebuilding. Oh. Absolutely.
- 14:56You got two comments related up here to Bruce. Ar J first says
- 14:58you're following Bruce Nolans trik steps though it is passed your bedtime, and he
- 15:01said, sorry, I had to do it for Nostalgist eight. Oh that's
- 15:05fine, what need to apologize? And then Justin came in again, the
- 15:07hero of the show for so far, with another super chant and Kendal's channeling
- 15:11is enter Bruce Nolan. I like that. I like that, Kendall.
- 15:15Before we get into the meat of this mock draft, start really making the
- 15:18picks and all this stuff as we go into it, where's your head at
- 15:22are you? Are you gung ho on one specific player in round one or
- 15:26a specific player in this draft, a specific position to target in a specific
- 15:31round. As we sit here almost literally a week away will be a week
- 15:35away from the draft in two days, we're getting very close. Do you
- 15:37have anything philosophically or from a principal standpoint where your mind and or heart and
- 15:43soul are operating out of when it comes to this draft for the Bills.
- 15:48Not really, just because I mean we've gotten there in the past and we've
- 15:52seen how it can go down if you get a little narrow minded with the
- 15:54draft. And I mean we saw it with the Kiri Elam draft, and
- 15:58I mean, jury's still out with Kyer Elum, but you know, everyone
- 16:00knew the Bills were going to take a cornerback that that pick, and they
- 16:03got jumped and Trent McDuffie's now a chief. So it's like, I'm still
- 16:07so annoyed to because how much I loved Make and how much I did not
- 16:12love Elam and you as well, and I'm both there on that one that
- 16:15year, and and the trajectory of both players and especially McDuffie having his with
- 16:21the Chiefs. It's it's such a massive frustration for me killing pain. But
- 16:26that's kind of like my example for why I as a fan, and you
- 16:32know, aspiring analysts, whatever you want to call it, is you don't
- 16:36want to get that narrow minded with the draft, Like, yes, the
- 16:38Bills need a wide receiver, but we know that the people in one Bill's
- 16:42drive are not thinking wide receiver or bust, and we like they can't do
- 16:48that because that is how that's how the team busts the player, not the
- 16:52player busting the team. So I'm personally not of that mind. However,
- 16:57when I'm naturally doing mocked, my my trend seems to be trade down no
- 17:06further than thirty nine, so get from twenty eight, no further past thirty
- 17:11nine, and try to get a wide receiver in that range while picking up
- 17:15a third round pick. That's that's usually my trend doesn't always work exactly how
- 17:21I plan, but that that's, for whatever reason, seems to be my
- 17:25uh my cup of tea for this draft. I think that's fair, and
- 17:30I'm man, I'm still I have so many like different like thoughts and processes
- 17:36when it comes into this draft class and this draft in general. And man,
- 17:42the the Digs trade really threw me for a loop because I was so
- 17:47I still think a quality defensive player is going to fall at corner, yeah,
- 17:51or on the interior. Like I'm like, I still I think one
- 17:53of those defensive tackles is falling. I really think they are, man,
- 17:57Like, I really think Murphy's going to go. But I still like the
- 18:02idea of Johnny Newton at twenty eight even with Diggs being traded. And again,
- 18:06part of that comes from my love for the receivers that you can still
- 18:08find at pick sixty and on Day two of the draft. But man,
- 18:11it's just it's it's so wild still that Digs trade and how it kind of
- 18:18changed things, Like I am much more into the like give me a wide
- 18:22receiver in round one camp or double dipping at wide receiver at twenty eight and
- 18:26sixty than I was before. Like, I think you have to come away
- 18:30with at least two receivers in this draft class. It's in somehow, in
- 18:33some way, shape or form, given how the room looks like now,
- 18:37in order to try and create that basketball lineup, which is what I really
- 18:38want to do. But I still just from the Bills perspective, Like we
- 18:42know then I talked about it with Daane Bruger yesterday in that Bonus episode,
- 18:45like we know the Bills go for that best player available piece and if there
- 18:49is a run on receiver potentially in the first round, or even if there
- 18:52isn't, I don't know. You mean to tell me, if Johnny Newton
- 18:56is there and they really like them, they won't take them. Or maybe
- 18:57they really like kool Aid McKinstry, maybe Terry and Arnold Fell or maybe it's
- 19:02Cooper dejen like some of the people in the chat are saying, and they
- 19:03met with him today, maybe he's the guy. Or yeah, maybe LOTSU
- 19:07does fall and a lot of teams cleared him on the medicals. That's one
- 19:10of the things I spoke to Dan Brugler about yesterday as well, like more
- 19:12teams cleared him than have not cleared him, and guys are tier teams are
- 19:15fine with it. Somebody or maybe again it's on the interior offensive line.
- 19:19Maybe Graham Barton falls or maybe Jackson powers Johnson falls, or maybe they really
- 19:22like Zach Frazier. I just, I just it doesn't For some reason,
- 19:26my gut keeps telling me that it's not going to be wide receiver, and
- 19:33I know that would plunge the fan base into chaos. Like if it is
- 19:34wide receiver, again, it makes sense it maybe only four wide receivers go
- 19:38before pick twenty seven, or maybe only three do, or maybe someday three
- 19:42go in the first twenty one and the Bills can trade up to twenty two
- 19:45or do something like that some scenario. But yeah, just my gut keeps
- 19:49telling me it's not going to be a receiver. Corner keeps coming into my
- 19:52mind. And again just for me personally, if Johnny Newton is there,
- 19:55I've sat it on Twitter, I've said it on this show. Like with
- 19:59the rotation they use, plus his affinity for rushing the passer, you're putting
- 20:04him and Ed Oliver right on the interior on known passing downs and situations.
- 20:10And so Johnny Newton is your like defensive tackle three and your backup three tech
- 20:14to Ed Oliver but I still think he has the opportunity to see at least
- 20:18forty five percent of snaps based on how game script and game flow goes,
- 20:22which also potentially helps Daikwon Jones stay fresh for the playoff run when teams want
- 20:29to, you know, run the ball a little bit more and you want
- 20:30your one tech fresh and one hundred percent come playoff time and come cold weather
- 20:34time. Granted, Daiquon, I've said it on the show so much was
- 20:37on an all pro pace last year before he went down, and he can
- 20:41rush the passer in addition to playing the run of what he does as a
- 20:45one tech. But man, like I just there's so much upside to Newton
- 20:48come into this team, and again just from the basic of how many people
- 20:52you got to beat Patrick Mahomes. You know, it's a great way to
- 20:53beat Patrick Mahomes to have tremendous interior pass rush, and I think Newton is
- 20:56that guy that can offer that. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm with
- 21:00you on that. Like I do get that sneaky feeling that there's going to
- 21:06be a defensive player drafted, and I'm not gonna get upset about it because
- 21:10I'm mentally prepared for it. Like I honestly kind of want it a little
- 21:14bit, but the big caveat for me, Like I said, the trend
- 21:17that I've been doing in mock drafts is trading back and then trying to get
- 21:19a wide receiver and double dipping later while recouping that third round pick. Most
- 21:25ideally might be trading back, getting that defensive guy within the top forty still
- 21:32and getting a third round pick so you can double dip on day two,
- 21:36Like that might be the best play because we've talked about this offline, like
- 21:40there really aren't a lot of X options and Danes. It's funny, Dane
- 21:45Brugler said it yesterday outside of Brendan Rice, who's probably gonna go what round
- 21:51three or four is the projection, So you kind of want to make sure
- 21:55that you have a third round pick to make sure if you didn't get that
- 21:59prototype X guy, you can make sure you have a chance at him in
- 22:02round three. That's a good way to look at it. And again in
- 22:04that perfect scenario, like depending on who who falls, I would love like
- 22:10you trade back to like thirty five, you get Johnny Newton and then you
- 22:14end up with a third and you can double dip in round two and three
- 22:17and you get Javon Baker and Jalen McMillan, or Javon Baker and Jamarti Thrash
- 22:22or some kind of combination of receivers between poison there, and it feels better,
- 22:27Like you feel better about the Day one pick because of what happened on
- 22:33Day two exactly. And I like that kind of mixing and matchic again,
- 22:36and this also comes down to, you know, my just roster building philosophy.
- 22:40I do think you need top tier players, but I ideally am trying
- 22:45to build a team of as many like B plus and A minus guys as
- 22:48I can. I you know, some people one reset, it's a reset.
- 22:52That's kind of what you have to do. You got to make sure
- 22:53you're hitting, Yeah, you do, and give me those shots at the
- 22:56board and those swings at the plate. And you know, I talked so
- 23:02much about this show ironically about like the Bills lack of you know, top
- 23:06tier s Tier A one dudes to kind of fight fire with fire with the
- 23:08rest of the teams in the NFL, and it is hard to like land
- 23:11those guys. And so give me the example I always I always compare it
- 23:15to is those Sabers teams, the one that lost in Game seven to the
- 23:21Carolina Hurricanes, the two thousand and six twenty seven team that should have won
- 23:22the Stanley Cup if their entire defense court didn't get hit with the plague.
- 23:26And they're bringing up dudes from Rochester. That team was built where you had
- 23:30four lines that were basically four number like three number two lines, and the
- 23:34fourth line was like a third line. They didn't have a true top tier.
- 23:38These dudes are studs. Here's your number one line. They especially when
- 23:41you juxtaposed with a team like Ottawa, for example, their one line has
- 23:45sets and Alfredson and Heatlee. All those dudes were studs. The Bills had
- 23:51balance, or the Bills the Sabers had balance scoring and mix of offense and
- 23:55defense between all four lines. And I like that model, not just for
- 23:59hockey, but in general. Like, give me a team of as many
- 24:02B plus and A minus guys as you can have, and some people don't
- 24:03like that. Some people know, give me the A one top tier A
- 24:07pluses and then mix in some c's and C minuses and C pluses, it'll
- 24:11be fine. I like this idea of just making the roster as thorough as
- 24:15possible, because when you put all your eggs into like the A baskets or
- 24:19the A plus baskets, what happens if those dudes go down? Like what
- 24:23happens if I mean look at the Cowboys right now, Like look at what
- 24:27the Cowboys are setting up to be. They're setting up to be a team
- 24:30that's paying Trayvon Diggs, Michaeh Parsons and Cdee Lamb and then fill in the
- 24:37blanks like they just got to figure it out everywhere else and depend on those
- 24:41superstars to be superstars? What happens if they're not right? And it kind
- 24:45of makes me think of like I feel like they're like the glass cannon building
- 24:48like an RPG where you have like no armor in defense and you're just all
- 24:52like yeah, but like man, if I hit you with two shots,
- 24:56you're dead. And it's like yeah, but if you get hit with one
- 24:57shot, you die, Like it's at what type build? Yeah? There
- 25:02you go, Yeah, what type of bill do you prefer? And and
- 25:06so Ralph says Brear didn't have a shot. They went into Game seven in
- 25:10the third period, they were up to one after that joginhash goal, and
- 25:12they just and Carolina was loaded with like the vets that they brought in with,
- 25:17like Doug Waite and Mark Reki and everything they had in this If the
- 25:19Sabers weren't down to playing Rochester defenseman, they would have gone to the Cup
- 25:23and they would have waxed Edmonton. Oh that's still that should have been a
- 25:27Buffalo championship. It's I'm still so frustrated. That is the that because in
- 25:33my mind too, like the thirteen Seconds game, my theory with the or
- 25:37my pushback on that was like, I don't know if we're beating Cincinnati in
- 25:40the AFC Championship, and ironically we haven't had luck against Cincinnati after that.
- 25:45But I really, in my soul, I believe if the Sabers get past
- 25:48Carolina that year and go to the Cup, they're beating Edmonton. That Edmonton
- 25:51squad I don't even know how they made the Cup, Like they would have
- 25:52waxed Dwayne Rollers and Ryan Smith and that crew, and the Sabers would have
- 25:56won the Cup. They were Oh, just so unfortunate curses and stupid things.
- 26:00But again we use that example to come to here. Yeah, like
- 26:03I there is so much quality in this draft, not just at receiver,
- 26:07but receiver and offensive line and even like the value at safety in this draft
- 26:12is on day two and you might even still be able to get a good
- 26:15edge or two on day two. Like there's a lot of intriguing options in
- 26:19that spot, So give me as many bites at the apple in that range.
- 26:22Or again, like the board has to fall that way, right,
- 26:26the board has to fall that way. I don't want to sit there at
- 26:29twenty eight and like four of the guys I wanted are gone, there's only
- 26:32one left. Cool, I'm gonna take that guy. I'm not gonna be
- 26:33like, well, let's just trade back. But yeah, I just think
- 26:37when you're looking at this team, and like we talked about in text and
- 26:40like we've talked about in the show, to start off here, like you're
- 26:44resetting a little bit. At the very least, it's a revamp for this
- 26:47roster this offseason. Allen's money is starting to kick in, Diggs is gone,
- 26:52who's kind of taken over in terms of a leadership off the field standpoint,
- 26:56But on the field you're potentially changing too, like hide employer be gone
- 27:00and Trey White being gone, Like how many how much do things change?
- 27:03Schematically you need to start rebuilding your leadership corps, but also like your on
- 27:08field schematic x's and o's core, and I like the idea of doing it,
- 27:12Like, hey, if I can get a shot at an A plus
- 27:15guy or an A guy, that's awesome, But based on where they're picking,
- 27:18you're really trying to hope one of those guys fall to you, and
- 27:22the odds of that happening is less than you trying to make your own luck
- 27:26and acquiring as many B plus guys as you can. Yeah, I kind
- 27:29of I kind of feel like they're gonna try to take some high floor players
- 27:33with this draft and maybe get a little more high variance. That's why that
- 27:37like the idea of like Lad McConkie, who I think his ceiling is potentially
- 27:41somewhat limited, but you know, because of his size and frame and what
- 27:44he can be. But and again, ironically, Dane and I talked about
- 27:47yesterday, like dude is gonna come into the league and be a professional route
- 27:52runner from the jump, Like his floor is so high because he's gonna he's
- 27:57gonna come onto a team and be like a wide receiver two or i'd arguably
- 28:02the best route runner on a lot of teams already because of how good of
- 28:04a route runner he is. And then he does have speed and the ability
- 28:07to kind of do some things that an X can do. Even though he
- 28:11does he's not the traditional X in terms of size and frame and even really
- 28:12playstyle, but he does have a lot of fun like aspects. But then
- 28:15you do have to pair him kind of with that X later, Like I
- 28:19love the idea of like Lad McConkie at twenty eight, if I get Javon
- 28:23Baker at sixty, you know, kind of pairing that awesome receiver, I
- 28:27don't care find a place to put him with that more traditional X prototype or
- 28:32skill set. Good coming here. Those are electrics. The conversation on that
- 28:37point to the twenty eight and sixty like if you go double dip there,
- 28:41like you gotta find an edge in round four, like you gotta be happy
- 28:45about the edges that far for you at round four and see and that is
- 28:49like to kind of piggyback off this coming from JG says like, or you
- 28:52go get the A guy. The problem is if you sacrifice too much capital
- 28:57or resources to go get the A guy. And because the draft is a
- 29:00crapshoot that a guy isn't an A guy. Now you've hurt yourself further.
- 29:07Like even if you're just in a vacuum, you pick a guy and he
- 29:08doesn't pan out, Okay, you failed. It is what it is.
- 29:11But the more resources in capital you use to acquire that guy that didn't work
- 29:15out, the bigger of a failure it is. And I think that that
- 29:18ties into my point. I think Kendall's as well. It's not just trading
- 29:23back and acquiring more picks for the sake of trading back and acquiring more picks.
- 29:27It's to give you more of an opportunity to hit on those guys,
- 29:30because even the guys who seem like the most sure fire A type of guy,
- 29:36it's not a guarantee that they're gonna be an A type of guy.
- 29:37Maybe they're a B, maybe they're a C. Maybe they they I don't
- 29:41know, flame out of the league and they don't even see a second contract.
- 29:45Even the most as sure dude isn't a guarantee. And so you're trying
- 29:48to build as many B plus guys as you can by getting those swings at
- 29:52the plate. I think that's it, Like you can go get the A
- 29:55guy one hundred percent. But if the A guy doesn't hit, and especially
- 29:59when you're in a train pansition period like the Bills are, the more capital
- 30:02you sacrifice to invest in a guy that doesn't end up being the guy,
- 30:06now, you potentially set yourself further and further behind the eight ball, Right,
- 30:11That's that's the fear. I like the idea of trading up, but
- 30:14like it puts a lot of pressure on that guy, like that guy has
- 30:18to hit. Oh, I'm fearful for whatever receiver the Bills get at twenty
- 30:23eight if they do take one man, like they have to hit the ground
- 30:27running and be amazing because if not, the fans are just gonna be absolutely
- 30:32Like I mean, we've talked about it, and I know you're not even
- 30:34the only one talking about it, Like plenty of Bills analysts, all these
- 30:40Bills podcasters, everyone's talking about how whoever the Bill's draft at wide receiver this
- 30:45year, he's not gonna be the number one option. Yeah, which is
- 30:48awesome, Which is why like this, like why can't we acknowledge that,
- 30:52like whoever this guy is, like, let him just relax into the system,
- 30:56like he will get worked into the system, probably similar fashion to Shakir,
- 31:00but a little bit more accelerated, like we saw Shakir get worked in,
- 31:04but you know, at a rate for a fourth fifth rounder yea,
- 31:07but for for first round er, second rounder, like we'll probably see that
- 31:11easing into the system. But there's a clear role for him to kind of
- 31:15be plug and play. It's just not needed, yes, And that's why
- 31:18I'm like, I I have more of a two, like not even more
- 31:22of a two, like I have a two on the gap, but more
- 31:25like a and I because I've seen some people say he's more of like a
- 31:30three, like I have like a two, like a late two on le
- 31:33Get, just because I think the variance is so high. But I have
- 31:37no problem taking the Get at twenty eight because I think he has a good
- 31:41chance to hit his ceiling with the Bills, because of what the learning curve
- 31:45would be for him early on. Like all he has to do is a
- 31:48rookie is just go be six' one two twenty plus, run a four to
- 31:52three, dunk on dudes downfield, play above the rim, float in the
- 31:56air. Just do that stuff while we upskill you and coach you up with
- 32:00your route tree and deception and stem work and all that, Like he doesn't
- 32:05have to be a traditional first round pick as a receiver, and then I
- 32:08think that pays dividends more in twenty twenty five than twenty twenty six when you
- 32:12do need him to potentially be a true number one. And that's why,
- 32:15like I'm okay with him even though, like I don't have a first round
- 32:19greade on him, I'm okay with him at twenty eight because I think his
- 32:22trajectory plus skill set meshes well with the Bills need, but also the timeline
- 32:28that he would be on given the presence of Kincaid and the run game and
- 32:30Samuel and Shakir and then also just Josh Allen doing Josh Allen stuff. You
- 32:36don't need him to come in and be a first round wide receiver impact in
- 32:38twenty twenty four. That is kind of the beautiful part about where this offense
- 32:44is at the moment. If they do draft a prototypical ball winning X,
- 32:50you can really hide those deficiencies in twenty twenty four, Like specifically for that
- 32:54type of build wide receiver, if you're getting a guy that's just another like
- 33:00a Lad McConkey, like you kind of need him to just work in and
- 33:04be part of the team immediately, because he's somewhat redundant to the wide receivers
- 33:08that are currently on the roster, at least the top ones on the roster.
- 33:12But if you're getting a ball winning X like you can really afford to
- 33:15lean on his strengths and kind of mask his deficiencies. In twenty twenty four,
- 33:19that's absolutely fair. I want to pull these two quick comments from Nikki
- 33:22saying that's still a risk though, which is why I'm still out on the
- 33:25get, which is fair. But also everyone is a risk, like Nikki
- 33:29also said, I like the one hundred percent and go get it. It
- 33:30just has to be in the top ten picks. Nobody in the top ten
- 33:34is a guarantee. There is no such thing as a guarantee pick in terms
- 33:37of what they can be. Yes, guys who you get drafted higher usually
- 33:42have a higher ceiling or a higher floor, or maybe even sometimes both,
- 33:45But it is not a guarantee for anything. What happens if I don't know,
- 33:49you do trade up into the top ten and you get o'dunza, maybe
- 33:52he doesn't turn out to be what you think he's gonna be, or what
- 33:54if he gets hurt and it derails his career and completely changes what he could
- 33:59potentially be there There is no such thing as a sure thing. There is
- 34:01no one hundred percent. If there was, everybody would hit on everything,
- 34:07or the hit rate for teams with picks would be so much more. Oh,
- 34:09we got another super chat from Justin. I appreciate that, allot you.
- 34:12Justin, I would grab this and then jump right into the mock.
- 34:15Justin says, the digs tray didn't bother me one hundred forty years. Wait
- 34:20now hundred I'm thinking a hundred forty yards, zero touchdowns and three straight divisional
- 34:23losses. We need playoff performers, not just seventeen putting the cape on.
- 34:29I see that, and Ken only see your thoughts on that. With this,
- 34:30again, Justin, thank you very much for being here and thank you
- 34:32for the super chat. A lot of what Diggs does, though again it
- 34:37maybe this is a cop out, like his gravity allows others to succeed,
- 34:39like he had a hand in Gabe Davis putting up you know what, a
- 34:44two hundred plus yards and four touchdowns in that game because of the coverage they
- 34:47were rolling his way, like Dig's ability to draw brackets or doubles or the
- 34:52number one corner allows others to eat. It opens up the middle for Dalton
- 34:57kin Kid and Khalil Shakir. Just that presence of a true one gives you
- 35:01that opportunity. And also even with those divisional losses, I do want to
- 35:06put you know, because Kansas City was a couple of them, and I've
- 35:08talked about it on the show. Steve Spagnolo. His like m O whenever
- 35:12the Chiefs play the Bills is take away Stefon Diggs like he does whatever.
- 35:15He's in the Belichick mode of I'm going to take away your best thing.
- 35:19You got to beat me with something else. And even within that, Diggs
- 35:22beat Lagerius need a bunch during this season. He just didn't happen to get
- 35:25the ball, but it's there on the tape. I see your point though,
- 35:30like you, if you were having an a guy at S tier guy,
- 35:32you want them to show up in those big moments. But I do
- 35:36think Diggs had an impact on this offense aside from just the raw stats in
- 35:39terms of benefit. Yeah, I definitely think I echo those sentiments of what
- 35:45he does for the rest of the offense. And I think that's why we're
- 35:49both proponents of finding a big ball winning X that has a vertical route tree
- 35:53because a lot of the guys that we have right now winning the short and
- 35:57intermediate and we need to stretch the field vertically right now. And like Diggs,
- 36:02sure, maybe he lost a step, maybe he wasn't being as much
- 36:07of that vertical threat as he was back in twenty twenty, but it was
- 36:10still felt and teams still had to game plan for him, whether it was
- 36:14the short, intermediate, or vertical, like he was still being game planned
- 36:17for. And yeah, that's going to be sorely lost. Like, no
- 36:22matter what the off field issues were, it's it's still part of the game.
- 36:28Like it's eleven guys on the field, and losing one of those alpha
- 36:30guys takes away from the other ten. Oh, absolutely, absolulutely, Kendall,
- 36:36what do you think should we drive into the mock? Yeah, I'm
- 36:38ready, let's do it. Let's do it. Everybody playing at home,
- 36:42Questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, throw it up into the chat.
- 36:45I do want to make this as interactive as possible, Kendall, keep an
- 36:49eye on the chat because I'm obviously in the mock scree Yes, but yeah,
- 36:53so questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, if you guys want us
- 36:57to trade up, trade down, thoughts A guy, I do want to
- 37:00make this as kind of almost like three people like me, Kendall and the
- 37:04chat. Again, I do these as thought exercises. I'm not sitting here
- 37:07trying to be completely predictive with this mock and what it can be and who
- 37:09it can be and all that stuff. So let's just kind of see what
- 37:14happens as we roll through and go forward. This is the speed and the
- 37:20setting we want, all right, Cool, I'm gonna dive into it.
- 37:22I guess we'll kind of stop as we go for it, all right,
- 37:25So I'm gonna stop it pick after pick eight, I really hope if I
- 37:30don't want to restart, Okay, six, seven, eight, damn it,
- 37:39damn all the falcony Eco dunes a wild Okay, but now this is
- 37:45still interesting, Okay for anybody in the chat Kendall, for you Chicago,
- 37:51that trade is potentially still on the offer or on the table. They still
- 37:54do need picks like that whole idea, that trade scenario potentially still exists.
- 38:00Trade up here, do you want to trade with Chicago, maybe try and
- 38:01get Dallas Turner. All edges are still on the board. We've only seen
- 38:07well Kayleb Williams, Jayden and Daniels For the audio listeners, it was Kayleb
- 38:09Williams one, Jadeen Daniels too, Drake May three, Joe Alt for,
- 38:14Marvin Harrison at five, JJ McCarthy at six, Malik Neighbors at seven,
- 38:17Romo Dunes at eight, and now we sit here with the Chicago Bears pick
- 38:22at pick nine. I think the tough part about this is like, yeah,
- 38:28it's nice to have your pick of the edges, but all three guys
- 38:31are available. Like, I don't know if I'm starting to get antsy to
- 38:35trade up for one of them until one of them gets taken and we got
- 38:40spin in the chat saying no trade up. I want to wait till at
- 38:45least eighteen to trade, says Travis. Some people saying trade back. So
- 38:50I think we hold steady and at least wait until we see one edge.
- 38:54Is there another position that you think we should have our eyes on for trade
- 39:00it up? No, I think edge really starts to get interesting for me
- 39:02as you go forward. Once you hit like Seattle at sixteen. The idea
- 39:07of potentially trading up into that spot or somewhere in the late teens or early
- 39:12twenties for an edge, I think is interesting. But I'm a fan.
- 39:15I like this, no trade up. I like this. I like it.
- 39:19I like it. Oh and Roy only thinks you trade up that far
- 39:22for a QB. Okay, I'm just proposing ideas for everybody. Want to
- 39:24Sammy Watkins happened? Oh man, I think that's also annoying too. Like
- 39:28they traded up for Watkins in a draft where like you could have sat still
- 39:30in head Mike Evans or Aaron Donald or Odell Beckham or like I still I
- 39:35still did this day thought the trade up was happening for Khalil Mack. When
- 39:37they traded up, I thought it was right Mac. Yeah, I'm still
- 39:40convinced they took Sammy Watkins because Rex Ryan's kid was on Clemson and he thought
- 39:44it'd be fun. Like, oh man, all right, I'm gonna hit
- 39:47Razoome. We're going we're zooming. Yes, yeah, yeah, let's keep
- 39:51your eyes on the edges. This is really stressful to like have to pause.
- 39:55So Turner left right away. Oh, verse one at fifteen monkeys.
- 40:02Okay, So right, so Dallas Turner went at nine, brock Bauers at
- 40:07ten, Terry and Arnold at eleven. In Minnesota, will know QB on
- 40:10the board, uh talis Uaga at twelve, JC Latham at thirteen, Quinnon
- 40:15Mitchell at fourteen, Jared Versus at fifteen. So a lot of this too,
- 40:20I think at this point, like is also something like I've talked about
- 40:22on the show, like I really think you could see again who takes who
- 40:27where. But I think from like a player picking perspective, is really what
- 40:30you could see in the first twenty seven, Like I think you're gonna see
- 40:32four quarterbacks go. You're gonna see the big three wide receivers. You're gonna
- 40:37see brock Bauers, You're gonna see Quinnon Mitchell, Turner's gonna go, Versus
- 40:40gonna go. How many corners go aside from quinnyon Mitchell, I think is
- 40:45an interesting one, but we've already seen one go and then I think at
- 40:50least eight offensive linemen go in the first twenty seven, So we're really kind
- 40:52of seeing the board kind of fall in that fashion. Right now. I'm
- 40:59trying to think of like where we should pause next. I don't know.
- 41:04I don't even know if a lot two gets past, maybe the Rams.
- 41:08The problem is the Rams have eleven picks, like, yeah, they don't
- 41:12need capital, they don't care. All right, I'm gonna let it ride
- 41:15unless you feel strongly about something. No, I don't. I think.
- 41:19Yeah, some people in the chat are saying it too. I think sticking
- 41:22pick is becoming more and more likely right now. I like it. I
- 41:24like it, all right, cool, all right, I'm gonna resume.
- 41:27It's again. It's really stressful to make sure I hit the pause button.
- 41:29Yeah, it's tough, especially to real quick because like all Byron Murphy went,
- 41:32because like when you click here at resume, then it moves up to
- 41:37over here, and I'm not prepared for the button, especially because i only
- 41:39do this on my phone. I never do it on my desktops. Really
- 41:43yeah, I never do desktop. It's always on my phone. It's funny.
- 41:45All right, Um, we'll stop at the Eagles pick at twenty two.
- 41:51All right, man, more a lot of offensive linemen. Okay,
- 41:57all in, there goes Brian Thom's Oh to Miami. That's gonna make Hills
- 42:00fans man. All right, So Jared Versus at fifteen. Once we continue,
- 42:02we got Bayern Murphy at sixteen, Troy Fontanu, who I really like,
- 42:07to the Jags at seventeen, Olufashano to the Bengals, Graham Barton to
- 42:10the Rams, Tyler Geiiton to the Steelers, and Brian Thomas Junior to the
- 42:15Dolphins. So only four receivers have gone. How many linemen won? Two,
- 42:20three, four, five, six offensive linemen have already gone Tackles Vikings.
- 42:28Who did the Vikings take at eleven? Hello, Ftano can be a
- 42:30guard. They took Terry and Arnold, so two corners are off the board,
- 42:34Arnold and Quinjon Mitchell. So they'll probably take a corner a quarterback.
- 42:39Yeah, but what are they gonna do? Pennix, This is fun?
- 42:42You would think. I feel like they're the only team that would take lat
- 42:45too. Uh No, that the Bucks would take a lot too. Yeah,
- 42:51I don't think that. I don't think he gets passed. He doesn't
- 42:53get past the he doesn't get past Tampa Bay. All right, what are
- 42:58we doing? Let me ride kenelm gonna refer to you. I'm gonna give
- 43:00you the voce. We gotta I think we gotta let it ride to twenty
- 43:04eight. I don't think I don't think it's worth trading up for a law
- 43:07two. Fair enough, it's on the edge, Like I to be fair,
- 43:13like this is kind of just where I'm at. I could realistically see
- 43:16Brandon Bean making this trade though, Like I could see him, I could
- 43:21see him move here where were six six picks away from the Bills right now?
- 43:23Like this is a very very doable trade to move up for what could
- 43:30be his edge one, like a lot two could very well if he's medically
- 43:32cleared, be Brandon Bean's edge one, and we just walked away with him
- 43:37in the twenties for what might be a pick that's in the sixties next year
- 43:40if the Bills do very well, right, if they're getting rid of their
- 43:45twenty twenty five second and this pick like it could look really good. But
- 43:51I personally I'd rather see the board and see what follows at twenty eight?
- 43:54Hy fair? What do we get? In the comments? Pete says,
- 43:58stop at Dallas, all right, Well, stop at Dallas. I really
- 44:00hope I can hit the button in time. Okay, Oh, there goes
- 44:05a lot to oh to Minnesota. Yeah, if they weren't taking a quarterback.
- 44:07He was gonna be edge. All right, So there we go Neil
- 44:10Hunter. All right. So now we're sitting here at Dallas had picked twenty
- 44:15four bump, so ad mitchellist. All the receivers are on the board,
- 44:20minus the big three and Brian Thomas. The top three edges are gone.
- 44:23Three corners have gone. So if we're looking from like a name perspective for
- 44:28a lot of fans, JPJ is there, Johnny Newton is there, ad
- 44:31Mitchell is there running back. Right, D's still on the board. Right,
- 44:37Cooper Degen is on the board. Oh, I don't know if he
- 44:44gets past the packers. No, I don't think so. I don't think
- 44:47so. I'm not either way way. I don't think I don't think you
- 44:52trade up for for Cooper Degen? Fair enough? All right? I feel
- 44:58like we got to let it ride, all right, Ken Defern you we're
- 45:00gonna We're gonna let it ride. I'm thinking I have to hit the pause
- 45:04button on us, but I don't. Oh, Chop went to Dallas.
- 45:06That's fine. Cooper de Gen goes to Oh, damn it, that's tough.
- 45:12Screw this raw episode over anymore? Oh, you know what sucks?
- 45:17To is nobody wants to know. No trade offers based on how the board
- 45:22fell. No, this is kind of interesting too, because now we gotta
- 45:23kind of sit and play right. So now no trade back scenario, although
- 45:30we still could try and make some offers, but it's gonna be tough because
- 45:31the mock simulator really won't. I like no one i'll trade board. No,
- 45:37I'll trade my sister's kidney for JPJ. I think that means we have
- 45:44to go with j uh. Spin says easy pick here, take legett.
- 45:51I wouldn't hate the center. Spin wouldn't be mad at j p J.
- 45:54Roy says Mitchell or Franklin. I think Troy Franklin is a false god.
- 45:58But I'm willing to do the chats. Will oh bills are electric say trade,
- 46:02he says trade. I love how I love the people who know how
- 46:05the simulator works. And he says trade down to forty. Yes. That's
- 46:08also part of this for me too, is knowing, like I try to
- 46:12remove that from my mind because I've done so many of these, like randomly
- 46:15where I'm sitting here being like I know I can get so and so or
- 46:19I know I can trade back with this team. I don't want to like
- 46:22game up the simulator right but at anything we do right now, we would
- 46:27not be gaming the simulator. The simulator would be gaming up. That is
- 46:30fair. That is fair. There's a lot more answers here for JPJ than
- 46:34I thought there was gonna be. Yeah, same I honestly I want to
- 46:37ask you, like, how do you feel about the interior offensive line right
- 46:40now? It feels like the Bills want to move to a offensive line where
- 46:45their guards are maulers and then their center is kind of a bit more athletic
- 46:49of a move guy. So I'm curious where you think JPJ would fit into
- 46:52that. If that means like McGovern would kick back to guard or yes,
- 46:58I would take JP I would would ta JP. I mean they could try
- 47:00either if they feel like JPJ is a better fit at guard, like especially
- 47:04with his experience and what he's done. I also want to confirm. Let
- 47:07me see, I'm just looking up his snap cow from a position perspective.
- 47:16You know, it'd be great if I click the right tab on PFS for
- 47:22what it's worth and for the chat, I would be okay with any of
- 47:28those top three guys. I think I would prefer Mitchell or JPJ of this
- 47:35top three, but I think I'm okay with any of that top three on
- 47:39the board. And so JPJ all snaps at center last year, eight hundred
- 47:45and twenty nine of them, but then three hundred and fifty at right guard
- 47:46in twenty twenty two, and then eighty at right guard, twenty at center,
- 47:52and twenty six at left guard in twenty twenty one. So in his
- 47:53career, eight hundred and ninety three center snaps, four hundred and thirty at
- 47:58right guard, twenty seven at left guard, five at right tackle. So
- 48:01if you do potentially want to kick him into or at guard, you potentially
- 48:07can if you want to put him at center again, I think part of
- 48:12the idea with him is having that like versatility inside that he potentially offers.
- 48:19But man, I just he his skill set really does translate to both spots.
- 48:25I would put him at especially with how the bills are constructed, Like
- 48:29you asked me, like, if I if I have him, I'm taking
- 48:30him, putting him at center, and then I'm kicking a government back to
- 48:34left guard. Not that I dislike David Edwards, I just like him more
- 48:37as the sixth offensive lineman right That's why I asked, you know, and
- 48:42so, man, I'm surprised at how many people said JPJ. Curious because
- 48:49oh, some people are saying worthy man bills are electric. He was the
- 48:52one who said, go to the commanders. Oh yeah, that's right.
- 48:58How many how many picks to the commander have? Like, why would they
- 49:00be incentivized? I'm curious, okay, pick forty. Well, I'm just
- 49:07clicking buttons. I'm not necessarily okay, all they have a ton of top
- 49:15one hicks. Damn they are not They are not interested at all, man,
- 49:21this they shouldn't. They should offer in the whole. Yeah, no,
- 49:23they're not at all good. I hope you burn in hell Washington.
- 49:28Okay, I I think I think JPJ is the right pick. And then
- 49:34we hope like a Jermaine Burton or Javon Baker. All right, so we're
- 49:39taking JPJ. I'm gonna let you make the call. Let's let's let the
- 49:44let's let the chat decide. I I think I'm down to Oh, I
- 49:51know, let get's still on the board too, It's just still on the
- 49:53board if we click wide receivers. Let's just take a peak real quick.
- 49:57Yeah, Mitchell, Franklin, McConkie Cole. Pretty Much every receiver is on
- 50:00the board minus the top four because only four receivers have gone. I think
- 50:07i'll put the let's put it up to the chat. I'll narrow it down
- 50:09to three and then we'll monitor the chat. No, I mean, come
- 50:14on kidding, people's mock eighty Mitchell, JPJ or Leget. I think those
- 50:21are the three. Seeing a lot of J I am surprised at how many
- 50:25jpjs there are. This is fun. Yeah, I am actually shocked how
- 50:30how keen people are on all these mock drafts have taught me that you either
- 50:35went in the Super Bowl or you tank JPJ J. Wow, I might
- 50:44call it soon. Oh, Spin wants to trade back up for the get.
- 50:51That could be tough, Dean says JP man. Oh my god,
- 50:53I can get a lot of jpjs. Yeah, let's roll with it.
- 50:57Let's j Kendall, your coliner will take JPJ. Yeah, it's the people's
- 51:00mock. All right, you've doomed us. Thanks a lot, Kendall.
- 51:04Mm hm, that's what I'm here for. I didn't do seven rounds,
- 51:14all right, scratch it. We're all right. That's hilarious. That's actually
- 51:21super hilarious. Well, at least we got a good uh thought experiment out
- 51:24there. Yeah, we did. We got so honestly, I had a
- 51:29plan. I knew we were going wide receiver in the next round. Oh
- 51:34that's too good. Okay, Damn Donsay went again at eight. All right,
- 51:38so we've run it back everyone. Apologies for my yes, do over
- 51:43it. Yeah, that never happened. My fault, My fault. I
- 51:45do that every once in a while too on my phone. That's wild.
- 51:49Yeah, okay, I can't believe Donsay went again. All right, Cool,
- 51:52We're gonna let it rock like we did before. Yeah. Yeah,
- 51:54So everybody listening to ten we went it went Kayleb Williams one, Jayden Daniels
- 52:00two, JJ McCarthy, Oh, JJ McCarthy, New England, Marvin Harrison
- 52:05Junior, Neighbors May, Joe alt Roma, Dune Day, Chicago is on
- 52:07the clock. We are resuming this draft. They took Dallas Turner again,
- 52:12Latham, fu Waga, Brock Bowers, Jared Versu, Quinyon, Mitchell,
- 52:15Brian oh, Brian Thomas, Indianapolis, Early Thomas. Okay, so an
- 52:19early wide receiver grab all right, so versus off the board two of those
- 52:23top edges are gone. We haven't seen Byron Murphy go yet. Does anybody
- 52:28want to trade up to take Byron Murphy? Anybody want to do a trade
- 52:31up anything? Anything? I'm not partial to it. I'm gonna wait on
- 52:37the chat to see if they have any interest in it. But based on
- 52:39what happened first time around, it seems like they're they're good on sticking or
- 52:44trading back. I can't prevently did one round. That's so fun. I
- 52:45thought I had it all queued up. Man, rookie, rookie, rookie
- 52:49mistake. Those are like she said, no trade up again? All right?
- 52:51Cool? Yeah, everyone's out on the trade up. Yeah, let's
- 52:52get to like, let's get to twenty two again and just see what the
- 52:55board's at. Cool. Oh, that's why there were no trades, because
- 53:04no one's breaking after the first round. Yeah, I guess, or maybe
- 53:07that's why I wasn't well, Okay, lots Wo went to Miami. Also,
- 53:09they're gonna go a lot to in Phillips. That's funny. Bone Knicks
- 53:14went to the Rams, so we got five quarterbacks in the first round.
- 53:17That's by Murphy went to Seattle. Yeah, that's really helpful. I think
- 53:22that solidifies no trade up. All right, so the edges are gone.
- 53:25Let the board, Gabe says, let the board fall, everybody, let
- 53:29the board fall. We gotta let the board fall with a what is that?
- 53:31A fourth? Fifth quarterback? Yeah, fifth quarterback and only four receivers
- 53:37off the board, the big three plus Brian Tos. Yeah, big three
- 53:38wide receivers, big three edges, five quarterbacks. All right, the big
- 53:44don't jinx it, don't jinx it. I'm not reading this comment, but
- 53:47I am seeing that's been put up like this Panix and bon Nicks. Okay,
- 53:55all right, we're letting a rock until twenty eight. Yeah, let's
- 53:58get to twenty eight. All right, Righttanu Cooper, Dejean Chop, Robinson,
- 54:05Nate Wiggins, Adi Mitchell, Oh, Johnny Newton is on the Oh
- 54:08wow, we have a love Holy Arnold is on the board right now.
- 54:14Okay, So now here's one. So the first one I click for trade
- 54:16is Baltimore. Right, this is the one that's like my dream, like
- 54:20thirty and ninety three. I gotta imagine I'm trying to get Arnold. I
- 54:24think this would be no way this happens in how like who is giving you,
- 54:28like the third round pick to move up to spot? But they listen,
- 54:31the Simultars is a fifty nine percent chance. So I'm submitting that before.
- 54:35But all right, people, do we want to trade back? Do
- 54:38we want to entertain one of these trade offers? Kendall, what do you
- 54:42think? Do you want to entertain a trade offer or do you want to
- 54:44sit here and select? Honestly, dude, like we can, Arnold would
- 54:49be nuts. The problem is intriguing. What does that mean? Like,
- 54:54what what does that mean for the cornerback group right now? Like you pushing
- 54:58back Benford's development? You I think, like what does that mean for Rasul
- 55:04Douglas? Like I think Terryon Arnold is and see that's a fair question.
- 55:07Like I think Terryan Arnold for this year is your your corner three and he's
- 55:13your backup nickel for this year. And then if Benford gets hurt or if
- 55:16Douglas gets banged up, which I'm not trying to put anything negative into the
- 55:20ether. Corners get hurt all the time we've seen it, Arnold's probably gonna
- 55:24see some kind of action and then he's CB one or CB two for you
- 55:28next year unless Elam somehowser passes him. I and like Matt says, what
- 55:32does that mean for Elam? I really want Elon to be a thing.
- 55:36I just think he's such an unknown quantity at this point, like he could
- 55:38really work out. Things could finally click Babbage's defense and a die being in
- 55:43here in the secondary at CB could really work out in terms of the direction
- 55:46they go in. Maybe everything works out, or the inconsistency that we've seen,
- 55:52the grabbiness might not be able to just be coached out of him,
- 55:54and he it's not going to work out like we want it to. I
- 55:58just think hoping Elm works out as CB three this year and takes over one
- 56:02of the starting spots next year is more hope based than it is based on
- 56:06what we've seen. Oh man, I'm tornal. I want to trade back.
- 56:13I would rather trade back here so it could be exactly because so there's
- 56:17only two picks that are going to happen exactly. Because here's my thought process
- 56:22right now. We would trade back to thirty, right, so we can
- 56:27get thirty and ninety three I think potentially for pick twenty eight, or I
- 56:30can throw something in later we can get it bro, we could probably get
- 56:32thirty ninety three and one thirteen for twenty eight and our second next year.
- 56:45I don't know if I want to do that too. I kind of like,
- 56:46I like, kind of like this as its stands, unless anybody has
- 56:50because here's my thought too, Like I'm willing right now to take I want
- 56:52Newton, but i'd be happy with Newton Arnold McKinstry right, JPJ only losing
- 56:59two picks, Yeah, one of them is going to be there, Like
- 57:02I'm good sending that. I was with the other three d trying to grab
- 57:06one thirteen as well, but forty nine ers have thirty one and ninety four.
- 57:12Kansas City is now I'm not trading in Kansas City kick rocks now.
- 57:16Mm okay, yeah, no, I don't want to offer too. I'm
- 57:21not gonna play that game. I like how this is just simple, cut
- 57:23and dry clean. Let's see if they'll give us thirty and ninety three for
- 57:27pick twenty eight. We like this. I think a lot of the trade
- 57:30does. Yeah, I know, yeah, if it works, I'll take
- 57:34it. I feel like we're gonna have to give them more. I'd be
- 57:37shocked if they accept this, all right, So we're gonna do it.
- 57:39You ready, Yeah, I'm good. I'll take it. My god,
- 57:45that's robbery. Don't take here taking Arnold right, wow, Okay, gimme
- 57:50while they took xavor Worthy. That's good. I like it. I like
- 57:53it. Texas boys back to back, Mitchell at twenty seven and Worthy at
- 57:57twenty eight. All right, so now we're in the ear on the clock.
- 58:01John Newton aka Johnny Newton as he wants to go by Terran Arn't like
- 58:06I My thought is one of these three players right here. But I think
- 58:09we know where my heart lies. I like this from Gabe. You had
- 58:12no trades with case screw up. All right, what do you want to?
- 58:17Lecture says you have to take Newton. I I want either Newton or
- 58:23JPJ. And I think it's funny. I'm curious where the chat wow go
- 58:28now Newton Newton Newton Newton Newton or jpjam Old JPJ Quick. I don't know
- 58:36what's going on, Kendrill, and I messaged you for those watching. We
- 58:37went from like one hundred and twenty something live viewers and it says it's down
- 58:42to three. But based on how many people are in the chat, I
- 58:44feel like there's way more people here than three. If anybody's watching on YouTube,
- 58:47feel free to tell me how many people here are live, Like something's
- 58:50broken here on stream yard or the counter. Now it says two people.
- 58:52Only two people are watching this live. I'm very confused at the numbers.
- 58:57Oh Newton, every Wow, everybody's really on the Newton train. Oh Jim,
- 59:00says Franklin. Yeah, Nicky says yeah, it says one for me
- 59:02too. Yeah, I'm super confused. Like, there's no way there's only
- 59:06two people in this room right now. There's too many people commenting for it.
- 59:09There's way too many people. Yeah, what the one hundred? Cool?
- 59:14I like that? What the hell? Okay, thank you everybody?
- 59:15All right? So are we in agreement here? I'm sorry for the people
- 59:19who aren't about it, nice Roy, says fig Newton. You know what
- 59:22I'm sorry for. I'm sorry for the people that got duped in the first
- 59:24mock, that thought we were getting JPJ, And now we're sorry for everyone.
- 59:28I'm so I'm I'm I'm very embarrassed that that happens. Not really embarrassed,
- 59:32but it's mad funny because I've done that with my like I'll do like
- 59:37as I'm falling asleep, and I'll do all these things and thoughts and then
- 59:39it's like your mock is first round. How you just played the whole board
- 59:44And then you're like, oh sweet, that's that's the cam. Yeah,
- 59:46grad in your mock, and I'm like, damn it. Another Troy Franklin.
- 59:52I think we go with Newton and based on the chat. Yeah,
- 59:54the chat chat wants Newton. Where men of the people. Oh, I
- 1:00:00like this so much. Okay, it's just great because we all go round.
- 1:00:05I want to see and I refuse you trade with Kny. No,
- 1:00:07I'm not. I'm just gonna try and get crazy and be like, let's
- 1:00:09get like seventeen day two picks. All right, We're taking Johnny Newton.
- 1:00:13That's the pick. I like it. Jordan Morgan, Terry and Arnold.
- 1:00:19We get McConkie, JPJ Mike sanderstel polk, Isaic Max Meltain. Okay,
- 1:00:25I paused here just to pause while we kind of take. I was gonna
- 1:00:29ask you to do it anyways, because oh, if you're look at us,
- 1:00:31taken quick. Yes, So we took Newton at thirty. Jordan Morgan
- 1:00:36went at thirty one, Terry and Arnold went, oh, man, that's
- 1:00:38a really cool corner group. Terry and Arnold and Trent McDuffie was shocked didn't
- 1:00:44take him. That's actually a really fair point. Yeah, I liked that
- 1:00:46they took Jordan Morgan. They'll kind of keep again running that offense. So
- 1:00:51all right, So Arnold goes Darius Robinson, Xavier la Get to New England,
- 1:00:55Lad McConkie to the Cardinals, JPJ to Washington, samssill to I would
- 1:01:00say, to Michigan, to the Chargers, Jalen Polk Tennessee a desent,
- 1:01:05Isaac Wow Early Edge to Carolina, Max Melton, the corner to Washington.
- 1:01:12Anything. Actually, it is a good comment here from Jim says one hundred
- 1:01:15people here, only twenty nine likes. Yes, more likes, please,
- 1:01:16and thank you if you folks are enjoying this content, whether you're enjoying the
- 1:01:20analysis, the banter, the fact that I apparently don't know how to set
- 1:01:23a mock to seven rounds instead of one, whatever just fits your fancy.
- 1:01:28Oh that's interesting. From Roy, he says one says one watching and it
- 1:01:30started seven minutes ago. I don't know what. Yeah, something's broken.
- 1:01:35I'm stressed. Oh, sorry, Spin, Yes, Spin said stop at
- 1:01:37forty two and see if leg Gett is there. He gone, it's already
- 1:01:39gone. That was my thought too. Oh see now Jim. Jim proposes
- 1:01:44an interesting like thought here right, Like, isn't this scary though, that
- 1:01:47there's no good wide receivers left? And that is the potential risk that you
- 1:01:51run. You do have to be if that run happens. And I do
- 1:01:53think this is a realistic conversation to have. I do think that run at
- 1:02:00wide receiver is going to start at that second round. So like, I
- 1:02:02genuinely don't know who's going to be available at wide receiver between from pick twenty
- 1:02:07nine through pick fifty nine until the bills pick it, you know, from
- 1:02:10at twenty eight and sixty. So although I do love this idea of like
- 1:02:15hey Newton Fell or JPJ Fell or Graham Barton somehow falls so on and so
- 1:02:20forth, there is a you know, a scare. Oh this is nice.
- 1:02:23Appreciate this from Mars bars On Marseilles YouTube is crashing, by the way,
- 1:02:28the subscription tab isn't working for people. Evil. Thank you very thank
- 1:02:31you very much for that. I appreciate that. I've been super worried and
- 1:02:34stressed, like we went down dramatically and I didn't know what the hell was
- 1:02:37happening. So I appreciate, and I also appreciate everybody in the chat.
- 1:02:40Let me know what it says for them. The chat is very supportive.
- 1:02:43I appreciate. This is why we're doing the people's mock. That's right,
- 1:02:45Dean says. It's Pearsol still there. He is, But this is the
- 1:02:49reason, right, Like you get into us, like I love that we
- 1:02:52got Johnny Newton, but now we're like we're kind of sitting hoping and praying
- 1:02:55that certain dudes are going to fall to sixty. And that is I think
- 1:02:59why the wide receiver in round one people are sole. But we got a
- 1:03:04third round pick back. We did, so we end up with fourths.
- 1:03:07Yeah, but that means fourths are more expendable in a trade up, like
- 1:03:12we can try and snipe a guy. Now the problem like who are we
- 1:03:15targeting now that you know polk get I think two to Dean's point, where's
- 1:03:22Dean? Dean said, is Pearsaw still there? Like if I'm trading up
- 1:03:24for a receiver right now, like it's Ricky Pearsall And then I am,
- 1:03:29but again depends on what we package. Like I'm hoping if I'm getting Ricky
- 1:03:32Pearsoll, then I'm pairing that with Javon Baker. That's what my name is.
- 1:03:37I would want Baker Thrash, but I don't know what Elizabeth says it.
- 1:03:40What about Baker is and here are stealth X. I think like for
- 1:03:45me sitting here, I think Baker's going to be there at sixty and then
- 1:03:50I think we take it. And then I think we take Bpa at ninety
- 1:03:52three, which could be a receiver or you take receiver again at pick one
- 1:03:57twenty eight. I was gonna say, if we sit and pick Baker at
- 1:04:00sixty, I think ninety three becomes trade bait. We start to try and
- 1:04:05move up for someone from Nikede and here's a good company from Josh say,
- 1:04:11I too has to be trade up there, Josh, and I think it's
- 1:04:14coming from Josh says, I countered the wide receiver run for you with talent
- 1:04:17still being on the board. I e Pears, saw Roman Wilson, Javon
- 1:04:20Baker, Jermaine Burton, Jamari Thrash, Keon Coleman, and Johnny Wilson Coleman,
- 1:04:26I forgot about Kek Coleman didn't go. I don't think so. I
- 1:04:30can't remember what happened between this one and the one I screwed up board.
- 1:04:33We hate that you can't see the board. That's such a dumb thing.
- 1:04:36Yeah, but I'm forgetting what happened between this one and the one I screwed
- 1:04:40up. So yeah, ke On Coleman is there? Peer Song is there?
- 1:04:44Also, let's like, let's play this game right and again it's tough
- 1:04:46because it's computers not actually people. But what did Green Bay do? I
- 1:04:50don't think green Bay is going to take a wide receiver. They took Chop
- 1:04:53Robinson first. No, I don't think green Bay takes a receiver. I
- 1:04:56don't think Houston does. Atlanta shouldn't be because they took o'doone's ay. The
- 1:05:01Raiders probably don't. The Saints are a possibility. The Colts already took Brian
- 1:05:06Thomas, so they're probably out. The Giants who died the Giants. The
- 1:05:11Giants took Drake May, so their possibility. Jags no begles, no fill
- 1:05:17sim Why don't we sim to forty to the Colts pick? Okay, so
- 1:05:23we're we're simming to forty six. Yeah, let's try and try and see
- 1:05:27what's on the board at forty six. Okay, I'm just I just want
- 1:05:31to be so scared so much, no, because it moves like this is
- 1:05:35mad stressful. There's Coleman, okay, oh so am I forgot only only
- 1:05:46and Tyler Newman. For those of you who are thinking safety safety people,
- 1:05:51Safety Hive is pissed. The Safety High is angry, all right. So
- 1:05:58a lot of the receivers are on the that everybody likes, minus Kyan Coleman.
- 1:06:01So if we're running through those names like Josh mentioned, Ricky Piersol is
- 1:06:04there, Roman Wilson is there, Javon Baker is there, Jermaine Burton is
- 1:06:08there. Character concerns and off the field stuff for Burton. So that's a
- 1:06:12little wonky, but it's on the field tape is super awesome. Jamari Thrash
- 1:06:15is still there. Coleman has gone, Johnny Wilson is still there. I
- 1:06:20feel like at that point we could probably afford to sim to fifty because the
- 1:06:28Steelers look like the next team that would really consider wide receiver. Okay,
- 1:06:32we're gonna send to fifty. Oh. I like this proposal from spin who
- 1:06:36says, I like drafting Laget in the first and trading up for Coubin.
- 1:06:41I like that combo too. The problem is, like I just I feel
- 1:06:46so much better about trading up now that we have a third, Like the
- 1:06:50entire draft changes, like the flexibility that we have completely changed by that two
- 1:06:57pick move down to thirty. I'm looking on all the receivers that have gone.
- 1:07:02I was looking at the common here from my name is Jeff saying Troy
- 1:07:05Franklin. Please, what do you think of Troy Franklin. I think he's
- 1:07:08a false god. I don't mind him, Like if he falls to sixty,
- 1:07:11I think that's fun. I don't love him enough to trade up for
- 1:07:14him. I mean admittedly as someone who's watched one game of him and then
- 1:07:18has watched the combine. I'm I'm a little iffy on this guy who is
- 1:07:24prophesied as someone who's gonna be speed demon and he comes in lighter than his
- 1:07:30listed weight and runs slower than expected. Like that's pretty suspect. I understand
- 1:07:34it's just a forty I do like then, like the idea of like he
- 1:07:40was like he's sick and that's why he also weighed less and didn't run well,
- 1:07:43which again is fair because he also looked really ugly in drills to the
- 1:07:46point that I was like, what the hell is going on with him?
- 1:07:48So I do buy some of like him being sick. I just don't think
- 1:07:53he's as complete of a player as people talk about, Like I think he's
- 1:07:58more closer to a one trick then he is a complete wide receiver, which
- 1:08:00isn't bad because his one trick is being super fast, accelerating in the open
- 1:08:04field and ball tracking downfield with the Zoomies, So like that's not a bad
- 1:08:10thing. Like I don't mind. However, I don't want to get stuck
- 1:08:15in a world again where we're living with a wide receiver that has limitations.
- 1:08:18I agree, and I think that's fair. That's why I'd rather take someone
- 1:08:20like Baker who has that ex skill set which fits into that basketball lineup of
- 1:08:25wide receiver. There's also still, at least with Baker's limitations, it's not
- 1:08:30limiting him from doing certain things that are asked of him at the position.
- 1:08:33And I also like some of the idea, like even Elvis came in and
- 1:08:35said Polk like Jalen Polk could be there Jalen McMillan could be there, like,
- 1:08:40there's gonna be I think good receiver options there at sixty. So I'm
- 1:08:43okay kind of sitting there and it wasn't Polk was taken? Was taken in
- 1:08:48the thirties? No, oh he did. Polk is not there? Wowsers,
- 1:08:54he went super early. Okay, So Jalen McMillan is there. I
- 1:08:57correct myself. What else? Roy was very adamant over here, saying trading
- 1:09:04up this far in round two for a wide receiver is not smart. I'm
- 1:09:08okay letting the board fall to sixty. Are you down for that? I'm
- 1:09:12down for it. I think a lot of guys could go, but I'm
- 1:09:15down because there are I'm targeting fifty, but that's not a lot. So
- 1:09:20let's just let's just let it ride to sixty. We're almost there. You
- 1:09:24sure, Yeah, there's like silk four guys. La La Kendall is a
- 1:09:30gambler. All right, we're gonna let it ride. Anybody posted that in
- 1:09:32the I'll in the chat let it roll. Let her. Bob says,
- 1:09:35let it roll. All right, We're gonna let it roll. Oh,
- 1:09:41I'm so stressed to click this. Damn but all right, we're letting it
- 1:09:44roll so I don't have to click anything. Troy Franklin goes to Jacksonville,
- 1:09:46Roman Wilson, Kamari last year, I like Bullard Panics, come on,
- 1:09:55come on, Ricky, Ricky pearsall went too right before? Okay, Now
- 1:10:00he acknowledge though that the Dolphins just drafted Panix man lefty quarterbacks, man fit
- 1:10:06the system. Okay, So like oh Man, Okay, so Speaker is
- 1:10:16obviously still available. Absolutely who Cincinnati? One knows Cincinnati doesn't have a pick
- 1:10:20until eighty. So we're not doing that trying to forget that. Okay,
- 1:10:23So man, I like the idea Chris Brasswell here or Christian Haynes. Okay,
- 1:10:29so let's take a look a wide receiver because that's what everyone's here for.
- 1:10:31So Matlachai Corley, Jermaine Burton, Davontes Walker, Javon Baker, which
- 1:10:36was my hope, Johnny Wilson, Jamn mcmill, Malik Washington, Jamari Thrash,
- 1:10:42Jacob cowing A, Naias Smith, Brendan Rice, Taj Washington, A
- 1:10:45lot of receivers available for selection here. Everyone seeing this list, what do
- 1:10:53oh could come and hear from Dean, Dean saying Wilson, Franklin, and
- 1:10:56Tes have the three most visit points. Yeah, Tes DeVante's work are just
- 1:11:01visited, I think, if I'm not crazy, Yes, somewhat recently so
- 1:11:05now here this is a common here from man I mentioned he so Matt seven
- 1:11:10one to six, Matt wants Chris Braswell. He says, edge quickly falls
- 1:11:13off a cliff does. I am not opposed to that in any way,
- 1:11:16shape or form. If the chat wanted Chris Braswell, I would go for
- 1:11:20that. I do love Javon Baker again, his skill set of being that
- 1:11:25prototypical X from a size and frame and play style perspective. The stem work
- 1:11:30in some of his stemwork and route tree work still needs polishing, but he's
- 1:11:35got high floor with it already. His ability is separated to catch point the
- 1:11:39physicality the release package. And I also do think his mentality helps the room
- 1:11:46like he is in that. I mean, he told so I don't even
- 1:11:50know if I told you this. So Eric and I both interviewed him at
- 1:11:54the Senior Bowl. Oh and so I asked him first about his release packed
- 1:11:58because he was cooking to do is off the line to deceive your bowl and
- 1:12:00it's exact words to me where I was like, hey, like what do
- 1:12:02you kind of asked him like what do you how do you prepare for this?
- 1:12:05Like what do you do? YadA YadA, and his exact words were,
- 1:12:09I already know what everybody's finning to do, so I'm just gonna beat
- 1:12:12him off the line and it is what it is. And I was like
- 1:12:14okay, and then he goes to Eric and Eric asked him, like I
- 1:12:18forget something. Eric asked my question of like what's your mentality going out there
- 1:12:21or something like that, and he was basically like his mentality is is kill
- 1:12:26the dB. And ACT was just like I love you, Like just come
- 1:12:30on right now, let's do this something, squad. And I love this
- 1:12:33comment from Matt saying, imagine Twitter if we don't go wide receiver here,
- 1:12:36that's absolutely that Yeah is having a tough time right now saying that we have
- 1:12:41receiver. I also too real quick. I really do like Jermaine Burton from
- 1:12:46an on the field perspective, like he could he could push a top ten
- 1:12:50receiver ranking for me. As I've still solidified these things going forward, I
- 1:12:56just think to Dean's perspective, like the character concerns. I don't know what
- 1:13:00his interviews are like, and I just there are even aside from like the
- 1:13:05fan thing with the girl from Tennessee. After the game against Bama, I
- 1:13:10played a clip last week where or I posted a clip last week. It's
- 1:13:15a beautiful route against Tennessee. He scores a touchdown and he runs this like
- 1:13:19it's in the low red zone, maybe from about like the fifth No,
- 1:13:23not the low red zone, maye from like the fifteen, and he releases
- 1:13:27inside, plants his right foot and makes it look like he's running a corner
- 1:13:31to the back of the end zone. So again he plants off his right
- 1:13:34foot. He's lining up on the left side. He plants his right foot,
- 1:13:38but instead of coming down with his left foot, he like hopscotch jump
- 1:13:43steps with his right foot again, puts it in the ground, pivots and
- 1:13:46turns back inside the corner though is pressing out thin thinks he's running a corner
- 1:13:53route. So he goes back. There's all this space. It's a touchdown.
- 1:13:56I've never seen anyone run a route like that. It was sudden,
- 1:13:59it was pive, it was beautiful. Then he so he catches the ball
- 1:14:03in a yard into the end zone, the corner tackles him. He two
- 1:14:08feet leg press kicks the corner off him with both feet like two hand,
- 1:14:13two foot kicks the hell out of him for no reason. And it's just
- 1:14:16like I unless you're in the interview room with him and you can really be
- 1:14:20like no, like he's actually a good dude, or we're clearing him.
- 1:14:24I just think he's got too many red flags right now from an off the
- 1:14:26field perspective. But if we're talking pure tape, I would take Jermaine Burton
- 1:14:30here and I would not think twice. Yeah, right now I'm between Burton
- 1:14:34and Baker because of what it does freeing up that next week. I don't
- 1:14:39think to Elizabeth point, yeah, he punched like a lady Tennessee balls fan
- 1:14:43kind of her, Like I think she was trying to film him and either
- 1:14:45snuffed her or hit her in the face, like it's not ideal when it
- 1:14:48like even if yeah, like, I just I don't know who's gonna take
- 1:14:53him from an on the field perspective. I love the tape, even with
- 1:14:55some of the after the whistle type of stuff, but yeah, I just
- 1:14:59I just I yeah, I can't. I can't pick him unless I know
- 1:15:02what he's like, and we're not in that room. Oh, Elvis says
- 1:15:05he's good with any wide receiver. But Baker, all right, Kendall,
- 1:15:10what are your thoughts here? What are your thoughts here? Are we going
- 1:15:13receiver? Kendall? Yes, I I think so, because I think by
- 1:15:17going wide receiver here it means that we don't have to do that with ninety
- 1:15:20three. Oh my god, hold you got to stop, bro, Like,
- 1:15:25why does this mock stink? Because we didn't do what you wanted in
- 1:15:28the first round? Like, good, good, goodness, gracious, Johnny
- 1:15:31Newton is sick. A lot of the chat wanted it, Kendall and I
- 1:15:34did. Like we're not there. There wouldn't be in so much trouble not
- 1:15:38getting any talent a wide receiver. By now, look at the guys that
- 1:15:40are still on the board. There's a lot of talent there at the receiver
- 1:15:44talent. Oh, he says, he's just messing. I don't believe he
- 1:15:46got you. I don't believe him, but I don't believe him because he's
- 1:15:49always stop lying. Nikki, I don't try now, I don't trust you.
- 1:15:54Now, I can't trust anything you said. Ever, you've lied to
- 1:15:58me after I lied to him, it might have just lost your vote for
- 1:16:02the remainder of this draft. Now I don't know what to do anymore.
- 1:16:06All Right, We're going receiver because I think we have to go, especially
- 1:16:14with the character thing. I think it's Javon Baker. My thing with Devontes
- 1:16:17Walker is similar to God, someone we just talked about before. I'm gonna
- 1:16:24go back to Gabe Davis though it's kind of just the one trick pony type
- 1:16:27of idea. I don't want to be stuck with someone who's just only vertical
- 1:16:30rout tree and they can't do anything else, Like what if we have to
- 1:16:32win a five yard route and he can't do Like, I don't like that
- 1:16:36idea. Tis Walker. When he runs, it's beautiful, like he glides.
- 1:16:41He's so smooth, he's so fast, but there's issues with consistently catching
- 1:16:45the football. He is a bit of a hot head at times. He
- 1:16:46had a horrible Senior Bowl. He dropped everything. It was really in his
- 1:16:49head. But he can fly like it's beautiful to watch. That's something the
- 1:16:54offense needs. But like you can get that with Javon Baker, and more
- 1:16:59like it might be a little bit less on the vertical side, but you're
- 1:17:01still getting it. Yeah, he's not gonna Baker's not flying by dudes and
- 1:17:04creating three yards of separation on the route. He can stack guys with his
- 1:17:09stem work, but then also separate at the catch point and like big body
- 1:17:12dudes. Which is why I'm okay with it. I'm part of it,
- 1:17:15Baker, because of what it does, freeing you up the rest of the
- 1:17:17draft. It means you don't need an X. It means that you've fulfilled
- 1:17:21getting a prospect at X, and you can draft any wide receiver the rest
- 1:17:26of the draft and feel satisfied getting two. However, someone put it in
- 1:17:30the chat. I think there is a thought here about I feel, I
- 1:17:35feel, I feel Nikki on this one. Real quick. I am upsetly
- 1:17:39miskid. I was hoping Pearsall was going to be there at sixty and then
- 1:17:43I would try yeah, and then I was going to try and trade up
- 1:17:45and get Baker. Right, So this brings me to my thought, we
- 1:17:49could go edge here. Yes, we could go with Brasswall absolutely and then
- 1:17:55trade up for Baker using ninety three and one three something like that I like
- 1:18:03that idea. However, I would like to invoke the name of Marshawn Neeland.
- 1:18:08I'm curious what you think of him because I know he fits prototypically the
- 1:18:12Bills, So he's He's another guy we were talking about tape earlier. Neland
- 1:18:16is a guy who I've seen, like I've seen all twenty two, but
- 1:18:20it hasn't been complete games. It's been stuff that people have like sent me.
- 1:18:25I haven't gotten like actual like game tape to evaluate his stuff. But
- 1:18:28he is an archetype fit, long, power compressor type dude moves better than
- 1:18:32he really has any right to at his size, like thirty four inch wingspan,
- 1:18:38like two hundred sixty something pounds. Like he's big, he's long,
- 1:18:40he's strong, has better change the direction than he should for his position in
- 1:18:44size and frame. I do like him. I like Brasswell more from the
- 1:18:48known quantity perspective. Okay, just although I haven't been like a huge fan
- 1:18:54of brass Well from a pass rush moves standpoint, but I just think you
- 1:19:00get those Alabama boys and they know how to set the edge. He can
- 1:19:04go through dudes, he can compress. Oh damn, Elizabeth says, if
- 1:19:09we miss Baker, though we're gonna come back. She's got a point.
- 1:19:13I now I'm starting to I'm thinking maybe the move is take what we can
- 1:19:17get. Let's let's get Baker and then let's target a trade up for Brasswell
- 1:19:23or Neland I like the idea they can be wide receivers available, like we
- 1:19:27have way too many picks, like more than what we're gonna use. Man.
- 1:19:30Edge really does fall off a cliff. Yeah, like you if you
- 1:19:32don't, because here's here's the thought too, like real quick, not to
- 1:19:34keep dragging this out. And then once we get to the day three guys,
- 1:19:38we'll go a little fast. We'll go quick. But like I'm cool
- 1:19:42with Ellis can do some things. I like brass one more. I do
- 1:19:45like Nland. I actually like some things about Xavier Thomas, but it falls
- 1:19:48off a cliff like after like you've got like once you get past the Austin
- 1:19:53Booker range. I'm not a huge fan of Trice, although I don't hate
- 1:19:55it. I wouldn't hate the idea of Braylon Trice at ninety three. But
- 1:19:59Edge really is an ideal as you go forward. But again, even receiver
- 1:20:03like I just feels kind of negligent to not go receiver here. Although I
- 1:20:10really do like the idea of I like this, you know what's fun also
- 1:20:16too, I think this is the idea of like if we make it as
- 1:20:19interactive as possible, like it's going to take longer, like if I was
- 1:20:24doing this by myself, I'm just clicking stuff. But between you me and
- 1:20:27then the chat. I think it's fun and I like it. I just
- 1:20:30really liked the idea of neland back when I was charting Western Michigan, the
- 1:20:34only two players on their I guess three players that were standing out on their
- 1:20:38team sky Moore, uh oh, yeah, Eland and Braden Fisk the only
- 1:20:44three players on their toe. I forgot he was yeah and Niland was a
- 1:20:47freshman at that time. Maybe he's a red shirt freshman at that Do you
- 1:20:51want to do the risky idea of taking an edge here and trying to trade
- 1:20:55back, so try to like to do the inverse. I would like to
- 1:20:58do Baker and then and then I would like to trade up for an agg
- 1:21:02you know what, I want to do? Way too many day three picks,
- 1:21:06like way where than we think. So you want to trade ninety three
- 1:21:12and a day and a day three, pick and move up? Yeah,
- 1:21:15where do you want to try and move up to? I'm going to try
- 1:21:16and do that now before we make this pick, so we see the board.
- 1:21:20That's smart, even though we've been on the clock for ninety eight minutes.
- 1:21:24Well forfeit the pick. It's fine? All right? Where do you
- 1:21:28think we like? I'm asking you like we're dealing with real people here and
- 1:21:30not computer simulations like we're in the Friggate Matrix. The Ravens are definitely taking
- 1:21:36an edge. We just got rid of Brian Burns. What what what would
- 1:21:49it take to get sixty five? All right? Are ninety three? Nothing?
- 1:22:02They out? Okay? I thought I didn't know if the meter wasn't
- 1:22:08gonna move at all. I was like, what the hell is? Hey?
- 1:22:09What about whoa wait? What about our next year? Second? Oh
- 1:22:14boy, I know it's a lot, but but it would be next year
- 1:22:17and hey, if the Bills do well next year, it could be picked
- 1:22:20six. They yikes, it's too far. I think we I think it's
- 1:22:30too much to trade. I agree, probably can't go into the seventies.
- 1:22:34All right, everybody, what are your thoughts? Final final calls from everybody
- 1:22:38in the chat Bob says, is their coffee being served? No, but
- 1:22:41there will be cake after and cookies. Kendall brought both, right, Kendall,
- 1:22:45Uh yeah, you forgot the cake and cookies. Maybe every time you
- 1:22:51have one job and it's the cake and cookies. Uh oh, all right,
- 1:22:58Take Baker. Patrick wants Jayden Hicks. Yeah, blueberry good call,
- 1:23:01like the blueberrymuffins. Absolutely. Oh sabers dude says, take Edge now,
- 1:23:08trade up for wide receiver. Oh well that never i'mna let the check to.
- 1:23:13Oh Dean wants Dean wants Hicks. Sesspinar wants to know if there's butter
- 1:23:17creeper cream, cheese frosting. There's only one right answer. Uh all right,
- 1:23:25Roy, we're making this interactive. I'm sorry, he says, take
- 1:23:28Baker and move on. For the love of god, I let's just take
- 1:23:31Baker, and honestly, we might just have to sim to like mid seventies.
- 1:23:38I don't think a trade's gonna happen. But all right, so we're
- 1:23:41taking Javon Baker. We're doing this. Yeah, let's do it. Man.
- 1:23:44Part of me really wants to take Brass. Wealler neland right now,
- 1:23:47it's just such a risk. It's such a high risk. I want to
- 1:23:53do it so bad. What's stopping you? Everyone yelling at me? No,
- 1:24:00just I think the overall like value, like I'm afraid of like losing
- 1:24:01out on Baker, who I think is one that I really wanted this in
- 1:24:05this instance, and is somebody who I've really targeted, like for a majority
- 1:24:12of this class. Yeah, all right, I think Baker at sixties is
- 1:24:15the right pick. Baker. It is just torpedo this whole draft. Oh
- 1:24:21brass Well, literally when it's sixty one, Tampa Hicks, Cooper Malchi,
- 1:24:29Corley, Andrew Phillips, Jonah Ellis, Blake Korum. Okay, I'm stopping
- 1:24:32because somebody in the chat said, check with Joe Shane. It picks seventy.
- 1:24:36Who is the Giants GM? All right, fair point sixty ninety three.
- 1:24:43I'm just I'm just always just clicking buttons to see what. All right,
- 1:24:46So, okay, this would get us up, which is four picks
- 1:24:50for this would get us up for that move. Yeah, we'd have to
- 1:24:58give up ninety three, forty four, one sixty and one sixty three,
- 1:25:01but we'd still have, you know, so we'd get seventy. Then we
- 1:25:04still have one, twenty eight, one thirty three. We would still have
- 1:25:08one, two, three, four five picks left over after the problem is
- 1:25:14what would we get from two hundred on? Exactly? Then you're looking at
- 1:25:18like running backs. You're just taking flyers on dudes that you like, maybe
- 1:25:24like maybe a safety that you like is there late? But that's exactly your
- 1:25:28point, Like you are, you're not operating with a lot of great stuff.
- 1:25:33I would at that point, I would rather try to take out one
- 1:25:39of those one sixties and put in a future so we could still hold onto
- 1:25:45one of those one sixties and put in a future. They would do it
- 1:25:48for a fourth round, a fourth next year, so then we have nothing
- 1:25:54between three and six next year? Is that worth it for you? Yeah?
- 1:25:57Is too? What bills are? Electures says that's a lot of picks
- 1:26:00for Niland, it is, And that's who the trade up would essentially be
- 1:26:03for. For Marshallow, Yeah, yeah, right now, that's that's definitely
- 1:26:06who it seems to be for. He chat chat with this is this worth
- 1:26:12it? Do you do you want an edge? Do you want marshawn Neland
- 1:26:15for this proposed trade on the board, it would be to move up to
- 1:26:18seventy, Bob, Yeah, just fat. No, we'd be giving up
- 1:26:24pickswap here to get up to seventy. Also one forty four, one sixty
- 1:26:28and next year's four. Oh yeah wow if I give one forty four and
- 1:26:35give up one sixty, No, it's got to be everything. Yeah,
- 1:26:38I think it's too much for me. All right, let's let's let it
- 1:26:42roll another ten. And I think the tenet is with that as well.
- 1:26:45Yeah, for sure, the chat is dially with the negative ghost rider,
- 1:26:48says Christy. What does he say, negative ghost rider? I like that?
- 1:26:56All right, let me do it for the chat. I guess these
- 1:26:59are just exercise. These are fun. Brandon Coleman Devonte's walker there, that's
- 1:27:03that stings. Oh, Burton to the Broncos. I really thought he was
- 1:27:09gonna go to the Raiders, Like somebody in the chat said, Okay,
- 1:27:11Jaylon mcmillwn Xavier Thomas went, I'm just gonna let it roll in ninety three.
- 1:27:14Are we cool with that? Yeah? At this point, I don't.
- 1:27:16Is there an edge guy that you're really keen on at this point?
- 1:27:19Like, I like the idea I left waiting on Austin Booker and seeing what
- 1:27:25happens there. But no, not anybody that I'm trying to trade up for.
- 1:27:27I'm letting the port fall if it's up to me. Yeah, I'm
- 1:27:30good with that. The only guy I could think of was Booker to Miami
- 1:27:35forfeitted rocks. Oh, Booker goes to Dallas, Malik Washington went, Son
- 1:27:40of a B and Cooper Bebe went. I hate this this draft. I'm
- 1:27:46so angry. Oh you who took him? Tampa shysters and hucksters. Oh
- 1:27:59Braylen Trice is still there. Man, he fell. He was inside a
- 1:28:03lot of people's edge for people. Yeah, I just don't love He's got
- 1:28:11a power profile, right, he really does like he is just play strength,
- 1:28:15heavy hands, like he's dry. He's knocking you back and or going
- 1:28:19through you. He just he's big and bulky and stiff and just there's a
- 1:28:30lack of fluidity, Like he feels like a toy from the nineties that like
- 1:28:32had no like movement. Rigid is the word I'm looking for. Yeah,
- 1:28:36he I just I'm just not a huge fan. I also think what is
- 1:28:43his Let me go to my notes. He's got thirty two inch arms,
- 1:28:47which is also not good for an edge, but he's violent, like he
- 1:28:50will go through you freshures. Yeah, what do we got here for?
- 1:28:57People? Sorry? My notes? A lot of people want Dadrian Taylor Emerson.
- 1:29:03How much more would you like him if his initials were DDT oh like
- 1:29:10wrestling? That would actually be sweet? All right? What do we want
- 1:29:15to do here? I don't mind Braylan Trice here, although I don't love
- 1:29:17it. Who are Can you go to the rest of the edges just so
- 1:29:20we can get a prospects on? Oh wait a minute, hold on hol
- 1:29:29Cam Kitchens is here? Whoa ooh? Sorry? Can update their rankings?
- 1:29:35Yeah? They did. I don't think the forty before everybody bites my head
- 1:29:38off. I don't think the forty is indicative of his range. But anyway,
- 1:29:42here's the edges. Braylon Trice, Brendan Jackson, Moe Kamara from Colorado
- 1:29:46State, Gabriel Murphy, Javontae, John Baptiste, Nelson Sayzar, Brad McGregor,
- 1:29:53Miles Cole, Grayson Murphy. So a lot of Day three guys that
- 1:29:55are left here. Two questions on edge. Yeah, which Murphy is the
- 1:30:00Murphy that Russ looks not Gabriel Grace and I was confused their names, Yeah,
- 1:30:06the other Murphy. And then it is Gabriel. It is Gabriel Murphy.
- 1:30:13Hold on, don't just Gabriel Murphy. Yeah, I am. It
- 1:30:16is Gabriel Murphy who Russ likes. So I don't hate waiting on that.
- 1:30:21And then what are your thoughts on Nelson's Caesar. He was someone who popped
- 1:30:25for me when I sketch, Yeah, he I think he's He's in that
- 1:30:28mix of like dudes that I don't mind taking on day three, Like I
- 1:30:32don't want to take him in day two, but I put like Caesar in
- 1:30:35that mix of him and like Brennan Jackson and Kamara, who like I don't
- 1:30:41love Kamara, especially given his size profile. But if Nelson Sayzar is there
- 1:30:45in you know, the one forties and in one sixty, like, he's
- 1:30:48a dude who I consider. But for me here is a little rich.
- 1:30:53Although I'm not completely opposed to the idea of him, given the way the
- 1:30:59board fell, I feel like Safety has to be the pick. Safety has
- 1:31:02to be a pick. Okay. I know some people in the chat like
- 1:31:04Safety man. There's there's so many dudes I really like, like, I
- 1:31:08love Cam, I like Taike. I don't think takes a true safety as
- 1:31:11much as he is like a big nickel apex like he did, although he
- 1:31:15can, it's just a tough projection for me. I love Vaki from Utah.
- 1:31:19I like him more than Cole Bishop, who is a fun dude as
- 1:31:21well. Here this is my boy here, Malik Gustafa, who I would
- 1:31:26love to just sit and take at one forty four. We could probably double
- 1:31:30dip and get him. Yeah, he probably could. We still have so
- 1:31:32many picks. I'm gonna put it up to the chat between Taylor Demerson and
- 1:31:40Kitchens because I think that's who. Then say, Taylor Demerson probably what's good
- 1:31:45at interior offensive line. Really, I would have taken Cooper babe, is
- 1:31:50what I would have done. Mason McCormick, Cedric van Prant. I like
- 1:31:53Christian Mahogany. He's a guard. I like people like uh Hunter News newars
- 1:31:57are newers ad right. I haven't watched him full or enough to give a
- 1:32:00legit opinion, but I like I like Ziner Later, I like Boula Murr.
- 1:32:05I even know mine Keegan. I like Mahogany. I would have I
- 1:32:10wouldn't have very many reservations of taking Mahogany right now. Oh that was that
- 1:32:18was kind of the name that was sticking out to me other than safety.
- 1:32:25Oh, who are the corners that are available? Kayln, Carson, Chris
- 1:32:30Wow, they did update their rankings, Chris Abrams, Drain, Jarvis Brownlee.
- 1:32:34I like Carson, Abrams, Drain, and Brownlee, but I think
- 1:32:38we could get one of them with one twenty eight or one thirty three.
- 1:32:42I'm not a huge demers in guy. If you want to pull the trigger
- 1:32:45on demo, Oh, Dominic Puney who also projects the guard. That's fun.
- 1:32:49Oh all right, I'm scrolling through my notes and different things. So
- 1:32:57chat, what do you want to do? I'll let the chat decide.
- 1:33:00Oh, Nicky, says Kitchens. Mike says DTD sorry, And it's tough.
- 1:33:08It's a tough one. I don't. I think a lot of people
- 1:33:12are out on Kitchens because of the forty time and so they trans they translate
- 1:33:18the forty time to him having limited range, and I don't think that's the
- 1:33:24case. My actually, my biggest concern with Cam Kitchens while we're on it
- 1:33:27is how rogue he goes at times, like he goes off script and just
- 1:33:32try to jump stuff thinking something's come in and it you know, there's they're
- 1:33:35running double slams from the backside, and he jumps one thing and that's where
- 1:33:40the ball is going and it's not. And now that corner who's playing outside
- 1:33:44leverage gave up the completion and the safety isn't there inside And dude his house
- 1:33:47in it because Cam jumped the inside slan instead of the outside slant. Little
- 1:33:50things like that. But I there's so much I like to his game.
- 1:33:57I think he can play single high and to high. He can play match
- 1:33:59carps ridge, he'll fit in this defense. Like. I like what he
- 1:34:03can be and what he is. But I got two things in the chat.
- 1:34:09Michael Hall still being here makes me feel bad. If we didn't get
- 1:34:13I would take Michael Hall in an instant right now, if we hadn't taken
- 1:34:16Johnny Newton. And then I kind of like the thought of taking Mahogany here
- 1:34:20and then taking the safety that actually who I like to Dominic Puney played tackle
- 1:34:28at Kansas. He's just he's big and nasty and strong, like he had
- 1:34:36some good reps against Johnny Newton. Ironically, I like Dominic Puney here from
- 1:34:44where's my thirty three inch arms. Yeah, because he's gonna go inside.
- 1:34:50He played tackle a bit, but you're I mean, he can't play tackle,
- 1:34:55but you're projecting him inside. I like enough, There's there's enough going
- 1:35:02on for us at safety to wait, Like, we don't need to take
- 1:35:05a safety here. We have so many picks in the next I agree.
- 1:35:10I'm not opposed to a safety here. I'm kind of leaning Dominic Puney from
- 1:35:15Kansas, who yeah, played left tackle this year seven hundred and twenty eight
- 1:35:18snaps, but he was a guard last year. I do think he projects
- 1:35:23to guard again. He played boy. What do we think? What does
- 1:35:32everybody want to do? I want O line, I want interior O line.
- 1:35:36That's that's my vote for for this one. Who do you want?
- 1:35:41So? I think Puny projects to the inside. Yeah, Puny is a
- 1:35:45model. Oh got some love for Puny there, Bill protect josh mm hmm.
- 1:35:51I'm not opposed to the Mahogany. I'm not opposed to puny. Sorry,
- 1:36:02I know it's pronounced poony, but I just say puny every time because
- 1:36:06it makes me giggle. What do we want to My thought here is is
- 1:36:13poony. But I'll go wherever and see I like Mahogany. I haven't watched
- 1:36:17Mason McCormick, so I don't have and I know some people make chatter throwing
- 1:36:23some love for him, I haven't watched. I like Patrick's thought here nastiest
- 1:36:26cterior offensive lineman available. Poony fits that, like he is a nasty man,
- 1:36:32large games, he's got shocked, he can control dudes. I'm good
- 1:36:39for it. I'm I'm like, I'm splitting hairs at this point. At
- 1:36:42this point, like we need someone to compete with David Edwards and he doesn't
- 1:36:46like his big thing is like overall how he's built, like he's he's a
- 1:36:50high cut guy. And again that arm length combined with overall I think just
- 1:36:57how he moves projects better at the inside. Like, but you don't have
- 1:36:59to worry about the arm length and that movement when you're a guard and you're
- 1:37:04nasty and you're powerful. I do like Zack Center later, but you know
- 1:37:09we've been I'm scared to wait for people. Do you think spin brings up
- 1:37:15a petty point, but he has a point. Nonetheless, do any of
- 1:37:23these guard prospects have a chance to win the job year one? And do
- 1:37:29any of the safety prospects available have a chance to win the job year one.
- 1:37:32I don't. I mean, I think wrapping Edwards presents such a high
- 1:37:36floor, Like I don't know, there's a chance. I think if you
- 1:37:39take a safety here, like if you take Cam or for some people,
- 1:37:41for Demerson, like if you get a safety early enough, there's a chance
- 1:37:44that they can beat out like the guys that the Bills have, right Like
- 1:37:47I think if the Bills take Cam Kitchens, there's a chance he beats out
- 1:37:50Mike Edwards like similar even for Demerson, although I'm not high on Demerson like
- 1:37:55that, I do think again, I know Edwards presents a similar flour.
- 1:38:00I think it's a similar question like either way, Like I think if you
- 1:38:01take an offensive lineman now or a safety now, it's not necessarily a move
- 1:38:05for twenty twenty four. It can be to give you depth, but I
- 1:38:10think it's more of a move for twenty twenty five and beyond. And I
- 1:38:14do like Poony and if he beat out Edwards at GUARD, I wouldn't be
- 1:38:16completely shocked. And also I give you, I think I'm going to give
- 1:38:24you executive decision. No, but this is for the people. The people
- 1:38:29are are kind of split on where to go here. It seems like safety
- 1:38:34and O line is definitely where people are right now, but there's not a
- 1:38:40name that's taking consensus in the chat. Like DDT was obviously the first thing
- 1:38:45everyone saw. Did I say DDT? Yeah, but I knew what you
- 1:38:50meant. Let's go yeah, Like if it's between, if I have to
- 1:38:54take one right now, like if I have to take a sifty, it's
- 1:38:57a sifty a safety. I'm taking cam Kitchens, which I have no problem
- 1:39:01taking. But if everybody wants O line, I would take Dominic Cooney and
- 1:39:05I know it says tackle, but he's going to play inside or Mahogany,
- 1:39:11who I like as well, or we can take cam kitchens. I'm between
- 1:39:15Mahogany and kitchens. That's who I'm between, kitchens, safety, kitchens.
- 1:39:19Is everybody okay with that? He heard kitchens? Jason says kitchens? Hey,
- 1:39:27man, I'm not gonna complain say less. It's fine. Handle,
- 1:39:32you're making the call. What are we doing? Throw it down? We
- 1:39:35already saw two kitchens. Oh we did. We saw two kitchens already,
- 1:39:40and so we try and trade back three Hold on, m how far is
- 1:39:50this? Sorry? The numbers. Oh wow, so we could trade back
- 1:39:54five picks. Yeah, but I think the kitchens is safety too. I
- 1:40:02would just lock up the guy kitchens. It is fine with me, Cam
- 1:40:09kitchens. Sorry, everybody, don't yell at me. Look at all those
- 1:40:12kitchens. Nice. Nice. I do think like Mike Edwards is real interesting
- 1:40:17with like what he and Rap offer. But my main thing is Edwards is
- 1:40:21on a one year deal. So say he crushes yeah, right, then
- 1:40:26you got to pay him to come back next year potentially, or he goes
- 1:40:28somewhere else. And I also don't know like if he's even gonna be the
- 1:40:32guy they want to bring back next year, like I'd rather That's why I
- 1:40:35don't mind going safety here. And again, I'm just trying to not let
- 1:40:39my heart get in the way and be a man of the people, like
- 1:40:41I have no problem taking other people to the people were okay with that,
- 1:40:45the people. Chris Abrams drain went at one twenty five Son of a Perch
- 1:40:49and Brendan Rice went one. I'm getting so mad, like these things matter,
- 1:40:54like this is what's gonna happen. Yeah, this is reality. Zach
- 1:40:58Ziner is there, Isaiah Man, I like Vaki so much. He's so
- 1:41:01fun. My thought here is so I think we can get Ziner later.
- 1:41:08I would like to take Jarvis Brownlee the corner from Louisville is my thought here.
- 1:41:16You want to pitch me on him, pitch pitch me on him.
- 1:41:18I was gonna tell you to look at running backs. Oh okay, also
- 1:41:25keep me. I'm I'm fully into uh this, So I can't uh see
- 1:41:30Someone said Allen, Oh is Braylen Allen. There no Braylen. Allen's gone
- 1:41:34to see him. Yeah, he went to one to the forty nine ers.
- 1:41:38That's a scary process. So we're looking at Isaiah Davis, will Shipley,
- 1:41:41Jaden Sheridan, Cody, Cody Schrader, Kamani Vidal, Isaac Grendo,
- 1:41:45Rashina Ali. Yeah, there's nothing too Brownlee had a good senior bowl.
- 1:41:55I liked him there. He's gonna give you special teams. He can he
- 1:42:00can be a backup nickel, short arms. I think he's more kicking because
- 1:42:08of his size. I think you're looking at him more as a nickel.
- 1:42:11But there's a chance he can be an outside guy. What's his size?
- 1:42:16Where old? I lost my notes? Uh? Five ten, one hundred
- 1:42:23ninety four pounds, but thirty two shot like thirty one thirty. I like
- 1:42:31the idea of Brownlee here. Oh Miller wants Dwayne Carter. Yeah, Carter
- 1:42:38might be the best player on the board. But yeah, I was thinking
- 1:42:41that it's just with Newton, like it's kind of a log jam. No,
- 1:42:45I know, Oh he is still there. Oh Mason Smith is there
- 1:42:47too. That's actually kind of cool. One of the ones wide receivers a
- 1:42:53defensive tackle though, Like, how are you going to get all that name
- 1:42:58and then receiver? Now we're trying to double A lot of these receivers have
- 1:43:00gone. I like the idea of Anthony Gould later is who I'm trying to
- 1:43:03target for Morgan State. He can fly, so chuckles chuckles, world saying
- 1:43:12double dipit wide receiver. Yeah, we don't have the room for two defensive
- 1:43:15tackles, which I'm annoyed how the board fell earlier with Michael Hall and then
- 1:43:17again even now with Yeah, that was frustrating Dwayne Carter Mason Smith. For
- 1:43:21what it's worth, I don't think the board falls this way in real life,
- 1:43:25Like I don't think Dwayne Carter and Mason Smith are sitting there in the
- 1:43:28fourth round like this maybe Carter and Tyler Davis. I don't think Mason Smith
- 1:43:33is, but even I can see both of the little about call at ninety
- 1:43:36three. You think that happens. He's weird, Like I've seen a lot
- 1:43:41of projections for people of like Okay, I like this, QB. Do
- 1:43:45we really trust this Josh character? I think, what did you ask me
- 1:43:54about Hall? I don't like I could see Hall going in like the seventies
- 1:43:57or like in the hundreds, because he's on the smaller side and he doesn't
- 1:44:00have a ton of snaps, but his snaps are so productive and the flashes
- 1:44:02are so wild. I vote my my, I would like to go corner
- 1:44:08here? Who anybody cares? Go? Yeah? No, that that is
- 1:44:13something I wanted to hear also too, like even if the rest of the
- 1:44:15corners give me somebody with an opportunity to like play outside, but he's aggressive.
- 1:44:21He again, he functioned really well at the Senior Bowl. And even
- 1:44:25if from an arm perspective you want him more as the slight slot, he
- 1:44:28can be a legit nickel, which is I think I think is a thing
- 1:44:30you need given how Tarren Johnson plays. But I think he also has a
- 1:44:34chance to play on the outside. So my only reservation would be your thoughts
- 1:44:40on Cabal Hadden. I watched him like a little bit and I didn't hate
- 1:44:46him, but I didn't love him. So he is not precluding you from
- 1:44:53taking Brownlee. No, okay, I mean I also like Brownlee, you
- 1:44:59know better? Like is the exactly like is there a value corner that's currently
- 1:45:03on the board right now where you're like, I can pass on Brownlee and
- 1:45:06we can still snipe a corner later. No, I don't mind DJ James
- 1:45:12from Auburn. Yeah, you don't have a lot of conviction on any of
- 1:45:16that though that wasn't Yeah, No, I don't mind him, like I
- 1:45:19would rather have Brownlee. I'm going I mean brown I think people are really
- 1:45:24sleeping on the corner need for for this team. I think if there's no
- 1:45:30prospect, there's no hope for Actually, yeah, actually grabbing a guy that
- 1:45:34you have confidence in, I think you got to take him where you can
- 1:45:36get him and acknowledge that we have so many picks and we have another pick
- 1:45:40and five picks thought, I also don't I saw the comment in the chat,
- 1:45:45I think, what do I think of cam Heart? I just wasn't
- 1:45:49impressed with him at the Senior Bowl, and the more I see him on
- 1:45:51tape, like again, I don't I don't mind him, but his what
- 1:45:57are you laughing at? Female? We're drafting pit CB? His movement just
- 1:46:02doesn't do much for me. I think he's more name than he is,
- 1:46:06like the tape that I like, which is a shame because his size is
- 1:46:09great, Like I think he's like over a six feet and two hundred pounds.
- 1:46:15My vote is brownly, what do we think I'm going to lock it
- 1:46:18in? I like that. Let's get us to one thirty three and then
- 1:46:21we have a bit more of a weight we can actually kind of board all
- 1:46:28right, cool? I do really want to target Zach Center. Yeah,
- 1:46:34but I think we could get him in a couple of picks right now at
- 1:46:38forty four. Oh yeah, we're at one thirty three. I'm an idiot.
- 1:46:44I kind of just want to take Zach Center because I don't trust anybody
- 1:46:45on the board. And we still didn't take an edge, right, we
- 1:46:51still didn't take an edge. That was where I was gonna have you go
- 1:46:54next. I kind of like the idea of taking Gabriel Murphy, Yeah,
- 1:47:00and then getting center at forty four. Yeah, but I mean we really
- 1:47:09could go either way, is my thought there? Yeah, my thought here
- 1:47:15is Gabriel Murphy from an edge perspective, again, somebody who like from an
- 1:47:19athletics standpoint, he also doesn't like fit the mole completely and he does have
- 1:47:23like no he doesn't, but he's a motor guy, right Yeah, and
- 1:47:28just like an athlete, like he doesn't have a ton of length and size,
- 1:47:31but he's got really good hands. He's athletic, he's got good feet,
- 1:47:35and he's got juice. Like I think you can play like he's gonna
- 1:47:40be able to play special teams. He gives you some sub package roll like
- 1:47:43I think he could compete with Casey two Hill for like edge four. Who
- 1:47:50are the other edges on the board? Not great ones? Yeah, I
- 1:47:55didn't think so, Kamara, Murphy, Sean Baptiste, Nelson Saizar. I
- 1:48:00ideally I'd like to go right now Ziner and Murphy. You just don't know
- 1:48:08which one to go first. Yeah, I'm cool taking Ziner if if everybody
- 1:48:12want, what does the chat say? Because I'm deep into my notes here,
- 1:48:14the chat is Zinter higher ceiling prospect. Adam wants us to look at
- 1:48:19running back Claude Puee, says Mokamara, Gabriel Murphy, Christian Jones, Malik
- 1:48:24Mustafa. So we're center is up there? We got running backs pulled up,
- 1:48:31Shipley Sheridan. I don't love the running backs. I'm thinking Zenter.
- 1:48:35I'm good with Zinter here and Enter. Yeah, and then we have hopefully,
- 1:48:42hopefully Murphy falls to us at one forty four. I'm also thinking again,
- 1:48:45I don't want to gain the system because I see where Zinter is ranked
- 1:48:48in his ady. Do you think he's going on a weekend? Wait,
- 1:48:50but I don't want to gain. I don't want to game the mock.
- 1:48:54You think, But do you think in real life? You think Ziner's game
- 1:48:57is more like fourth round steady type of Yeah, I think he's a fourth
- 1:49:00round dude, might be able to creep into the third like I don't.
- 1:49:03I'm not worried too much out and take him. Don't game the mock,
- 1:49:08don't game. Yeah, I don't want to. I think we already did,
- 1:49:10considering we got that trade from Baltimore. But I'm gonna take care enough.
- 1:49:13Yeah, I thought I clicked the rung name. Mm hmmm, Hey,
- 1:49:18we're in seven rounds. Everything's a win. Now it's happened. Gabriel
- 1:49:29Murphy is still on the board. I seem lague Mustafa and I'm just like,
- 1:49:31oh man, but we already have our safety. I wouldn't mind taking
- 1:49:35Mustafa. We have a lot of picks. Like if he's there at one
- 1:49:39sixty three, I don't think it it would be too much to take him
- 1:49:43there. The Murphy Twins, Yeah, they they Again, it's they don't
- 1:49:46have They don't fit the archetype of the Bills, which is part of the
- 1:49:48reason why I like it. Like, give me some athleticism and some juice
- 1:49:51off the edge, the physicality, like he plays the run, he can
- 1:49:55knock you back, He's got pop in the those hands and hm, I'm
- 1:50:04forever gonna be a proponent of draft these non archetype fits. While von Miller
- 1:50:11is still in the building fair I like his hands, I like his feet,
- 1:50:14and I think he's got juice. And again I'm okay taken, Like
- 1:50:18he's gonna be edge four or he's fighting two hill for edge four. I'm
- 1:50:23cool taking an athlete who grinds and who plays with juice. Jason, just
- 1:50:28snipe my guy. The running back I'm targeting at this point is Will Shipley.
- 1:50:32That's very you could take Will Shipley. I just edge up later at
- 1:50:38like the two hundreds. I'm looking at Jace McClellan. Yeah, I'd rather
- 1:50:43lock the edge up, like I know we could get a productive running back.
- 1:50:46Gabriel Murphy. Yeah, I I would rather go Gabriel. I know
- 1:50:50the chat is down for it, all right, We're doing Gabriel Murphy.
- 1:50:59If somehow they're at one sixty leaders, if Mustafa's there at one sixty,
- 1:51:03I'm taking him. Nobody can stop me. Oh boy, oh the Browns
- 1:51:11shouldn't have spoke and you shouldn't have said that. Jalen Coker, Marcus Rosevey,
- 1:51:15Jack sat all right. Now, part of me wants to just take
- 1:51:19the receiver because I'm worried about him going. I feel like Anthony Gould wide
- 1:51:26receiver from Oregon State, like we haven't double dipped speed guy ran a four
- 1:51:33three nine at the combine like he's going. He's that guy who is legit
- 1:51:39track speed to get vertical. Could be a special teams guy as well.
- 1:51:45I think you're you're looking at his size though, five eight, one hundred
- 1:51:48and seventy four pounds. But again, dude flies return man speed again you're
- 1:51:55looking at vertical separation. Just another dude in the basketball lineup, like he's
- 1:51:58immediately the fastest guy in that bills room. Maybe Curtis Samuel. I don't
- 1:52:03I don't even think you need to keep going. The chat loves this,
- 1:52:06really, even the chat absolutely loves this. I think people I don't know
- 1:52:14if people are talking about this, but getting a returner is massive now that
- 1:52:18they've changed. Oh, we pick again, I forgot we pick again.
- 1:52:25I kind of want to say Bolamur center from Arkansas. Watched him handle his
- 1:52:31own against Devandre Sweat, and I don't think you can ever have too many
- 1:52:35offensive linemen. But again, we could really go anywhere here Like this to
- 1:52:41me is all that we're at a surplus right now, Like you're just like
- 1:52:45you said earlier, taking bites at the apple, Like we were trying to
- 1:52:48trade up using these picks and we couldn't get anything done. So now we
- 1:52:51just have them. We get to take swings. These are free swings.
- 1:52:57All those trade backs in the last two years, right, I like bow
- 1:53:02Lam what about I also like mm hmm mm hmm hmmmmmm. What I was
- 1:53:12curious. What about linebackers? I like JD. Bertrand if he's there,
- 1:53:18Oh, j D. Bertrand, Trevin Wallace is interesting. I like Birdtrand
- 1:53:21interviewed great at the Senior Bowl. I saw him at the Senior Bowl,
- 1:53:25does some fun stuff on tape. I would take Birdtrand if I had to
- 1:53:28take a linebacker, but I would rather take Lamurr. Yeah, no,
- 1:53:30we don't have to go linebacker here. I like Muiso. Who's still available?
- 1:53:34Oh from U C l A c l A H. Yeah. I
- 1:53:39really like his game. He's just a ball hunter. I'm good. Wait
- 1:53:45who is our who is our interior pick? We picked Pony, but he's
- 1:53:50more guard guarding, could play some tackle. Did we pick Pooney? I
- 1:53:55don't think. I thought he got snipe from us bro. This we took
- 1:54:00her, bro, get your mind together, I'm supposed to be Oh no,
- 1:54:03we took came Kitchens. No, I'm losing it. See this was
- 1:54:12Baker. It's a Baker, next Kitchens and then this took good pick.
- 1:54:19This was the pick that we likely went to one twenty eight. Oh no,
- 1:54:26yeah, we didn't pick too Poony. He went to Kansas City.
- 1:54:27You're right? So then I even more so, I went into your offensive
- 1:54:30line. I want bolamer. Wait, who'd we pick it? Once?
- 1:54:32Yeah? See we took Ziner chats on it chats Okay, yeah, that's
- 1:54:35right, you're right, you're right. Sorry, sorry, I've confused too
- 1:54:38many things in my head. Yeah. You also can't see your pick so
- 1:54:42far. I absolutely yeah, that's why I'm like, where are we going
- 1:54:45now? So we took a guard with Ziner. I like taking a center
- 1:54:51and again having that inside piece. We have so many extra picks. I'm
- 1:54:56good with a with a center, and then we still have we just need
- 1:54:59to dress linebacker. We don't even need to address linebacker, but running back.
- 1:55:04Linebacker, all right, I like here, yeah, now we're gonna
- 1:55:11come back. We're gonna go. Yeah, we'll go probably look at linebacker,
- 1:55:15running back or maybe somebody really good. Falls man. I was hoping
- 1:55:18all the data was gonna was gonna fall trans just went, had just went,
- 1:55:24Trevin Wallace went, Cody Schrader, Rosemie Jack Saints Steel Chambers Man.
- 1:55:29Run on the linebackers is really happening due from due from U c L.
- 1:55:32A cold could fly though. That's fun. Oh that's on me, that's
- 1:55:41on me, rookie mistake. I'm embarrassed. All right, Oh she Lea
- 1:55:48is all right? What do we got? Linebacker? Yeah? Who's there?
- 1:55:55Nah? Jalen Ford? Interesting nobody that you're like that? Like,
- 1:55:58I know, no one popped. What about running back? Yeah, Jason
- 1:56:01I like and I like Jason McClellan. The thing I like about McClellan,
- 1:56:06let me pull up my notes is just like the size and the pairing of
- 1:56:12like what he is, you know as five ten twenty one pounds right north
- 1:56:16south, dude, like you pair that with James Cook. I also think
- 1:56:20like he can get some usefulness out of the backfield. But again, like
- 1:56:26I'm just looking at dude, like his size and the way he moves at
- 1:56:30that size, pair as well with James Cook. Yeah, That's what I'm
- 1:56:33looking for in the running back pick. It's not so much about the the
- 1:56:40skill level as much as it is the complimentary piece. I I would prefer
- 1:56:45McClellan to Ali for that reason. Yes, agreed. Or we can take
- 1:56:49a punter just kidding. Jip Ryman is also a fun one like Iowa punter.
- 1:56:56Don't joke, he's legit. He is legit. No I know.
- 1:57:00Uh oh Dylan Johnson is there too. I'm thinking of running back Jase McClellan
- 1:57:03or whatever. Running do you feel particular way? Loubay is fun, Dylan
- 1:57:08Johnson. Carson Steele is also a banger. Checking Dylan Johnson's measurables, I
- 1:57:15think I'd rather go McClellan. McClelland is all right, then we're just going
- 1:57:27fun with the last two. How many camp? Bro? You don't want
- 1:57:31that punter? James Williams is interesting, like not as a safety, but
- 1:57:38as a linebacker, which is what I think he's going to be. Oh,
- 1:57:44Christian Boyd took a dip. Everyone was talking about him. Oh,
- 1:57:47Jalen Simpson is still here. Huh, I want Jalen Simpsons. Yeah,
- 1:57:51maybe that's that's I know you love him. Have you watched any Joshua Cephis?
- 1:57:59I not. I'm taking Jalen Simpson because the heart wants what it wants.
- 1:58:01That's the only executive decision I'm making in this draft class. That was
- 1:58:05so plus. We're running on like two hours and I'm no, No,
- 1:58:09You're good. I'm not. I'm not lying though. If that Iowa punter
- 1:58:14is available, I'm taking him at two forty eight is he really? Is
- 1:58:16he really twenty six years old? I don't know. Is that true?
- 1:58:20Doesn't matter. He's legit and he's a punter. I have not looked into
- 1:58:25any punters. Adam is banging the drum for Isaac Grendo so hard. I'm
- 1:58:30sorry, Adam. We let him get away. Doesn't he like not even
- 1:58:34get a lot of snaps like they it's weird organ Wisconsin because he couldn't get
- 1:58:40beyond Braylan Allen and then he goes to louis Ville and he still didn't get
- 1:58:43a lot of snaps. Yeah, Jaard Jordan was getting a ton oh man,
- 1:58:45somebody to Devonshire. That's annoying. Australian punter signed me up. Oh
- 1:58:53I like Josh Wallace as a corner out of oh the Michigan guy. Yeah,
- 1:58:58I saw some stuff on him. What do we found on? Let
- 1:59:00me go and pull up from Yeah, I like Josh Wallace again. You're
- 1:59:08taking a flyer at this point where I picked two forty eight. Oh so
- 1:59:11could you're gone Troy Taylor or Tory Taylor? Yeah, it looks yeah,
- 1:59:15he's gone. That's what he's setting. Could take a linebacker, could take
- 1:59:19Jalen Ford what about quarterback. I don't think any of the good ones are
- 1:59:25available. I mean again, you're taking somebody in the freaking seventh round.
- 1:59:27Carter Bradley, Austin Reed, Devon Leary, Sam Hartman to his brother,
- 1:59:30could take him just a troll. I don't hate Devin Leary, who is
- 1:59:42said quarterback? Yeah, Josh Wallace. I would rather Yeah, I would
- 1:59:45rather throw a dart at Josh Wallace than all Right, folks are taking Josh
- 1:59:48Wallace. Send it. Let's see what arbitrary grade PFF gives up. I
- 1:59:55never pay attention to grades because it's all based on there. Like, we're
- 1:59:58probably gonna get ding for Baker because they had him at like seventy six and
- 2:00:00we took him at sixty. We'll probably get a huge A plus for Newton.
- 2:00:06I remember when they used to grade the trick. Yeah a plus.
- 2:00:10Well we got a dfrisenter. Yeah, I don't. Oh, we gotta
- 2:00:13be plus though, Okay, I'll take it. Look, I'm gonna be
- 2:00:19honest. I know we forfeited at least five picks in there due to time
- 2:00:24expiring, But I love that draft. I do like it. Yeah,
- 2:00:28Actually, let's go back and share the screen. I don't know why I
- 2:00:30closed out. I think all things considered, Yeah, Johnny Newton, Javon
- 2:00:34Baker, Cam Kitchens, Jarvis Brownlee, Zach Zenter, Gabriel Murphy, Anthony
- 2:00:40Gould, Bowler, Murr Jas McClelland Jalen Simpson and Josh Wallace. I do
- 2:00:43think this so many boxes were checked, yes, And I do think though
- 2:00:46this was like from an exercise perspective, fun to see, like if you
- 2:00:49don't go receiver in round one, how your hand ironically can be forced a
- 2:00:54little bit later. Yes, Yeah, like we were definitely forced into a
- 2:00:59corner with if that second third, second third round picks, those were tough.
- 2:01:05That was a tough decision for us. That was honestly most of the
- 2:01:08time taking in this mock draft. I had no intention of purposefully taking Cam
- 2:01:12Kitchens, and I just love him so much. I think it's funny how
- 2:01:15this fell. My favorite pick here is probably Zach Center. Just from a
- 2:01:18value perspective, I could care less about the grade. Newton and Center,
- 2:01:21I think is really fun and then we like the whole help Josh Allen piece
- 2:01:27like Baker gives you that X piece gold is a field stretcher with an electric
- 2:01:30with his speed and can be a return man as well. Lamurr and Zinter
- 2:01:34I think are fun pieces. You added a nice hammer compliment to James Cook,
- 2:01:40So I like what we did there. Murphy competes for Edge four snaps.
- 2:01:44Kitchens could potentially win out at safety, but I think you're letting him
- 2:01:46sit as Safety three this year and then he takes over next year, which
- 2:01:49I still think is solid. Newton is a game wrecker. I'm very very
- 2:01:54happy with that. And then Brownly, Yeah, like I think he can
- 2:01:59push and outside, but weird weirdness. I would say weirdness aside. Like
- 2:02:03worst case scenario is he is a legitimate, legitimate backup in the slot to
- 2:02:11Tarren Johnson and you know, no disrespect to cam Lewis. I think the
- 2:02:14upside of Brownlee outweighs the upside of cam Lewis, even though he does have
- 2:02:17that nickel safety versatility. Right. I like it, man, I really
- 2:02:24wanted to trade up and get rid of these, even to Josh's point,
- 2:02:28there there's no chance Brandon beat is making that many picks. I think in
- 2:02:30real life it'll be easier to trade up and use some of it. It
- 2:02:33was tough in this one. It was tough for us, Like I wanted
- 2:02:36to trade up to get more in the mid rounds. It just wasn't panning
- 2:02:42out for us. But honestly, if it played out like this, like
- 2:02:45there is a soft reset going on right now at some positions, and we
- 2:02:49need to get bodies in there at cost control, and it just look it's
- 2:02:54achieved that. Yeah, and I think like Newton's making the team, Baker's
- 2:02:58making the team, Kitchens is making the team, Brownley's making the team,
- 2:03:00Ziner's making the team. Murphy is gonna fight for I think Murphy could beat
- 2:03:04out Casey two Hill. Gould is really interesting once you started to get into
- 2:03:09the fifth round spot. But like, I think a lot of these guys
- 2:03:11make the team or just the very least like compete. And again, given
- 2:03:16what we had, I would have loved to have traded up like we talked
- 2:03:18about, like, especially once we got that third round pick. I just
- 2:03:20think the opportunity didn't come for us to do it. Again. This is
- 2:03:25a random simulator mock. I think we were doing it more for the thought
- 2:03:27exercise and talking about players and all that and going forward. Yeah, that
- 2:03:32was a good I love this comment. Yeah, like we didn't want to
- 2:03:35trade up, like so we wanted Also, we asked the chat the chat
- 2:03:40didn't want to sacrifice five picks, especially in the first round, Like,
- 2:03:43yeah, no one wanted to trade up in the first two rounds. Yeah,
- 2:03:46and see, I think this is what the Dennis is comment, like,
- 2:03:48I like the trade back to get the third rounder. This is my
- 2:03:51favorite. Like timeline trade back to get the third rounder, but then trade
- 2:03:56up earlier in the fourth or again somewhere in the third, Like I want
- 2:03:59to trade back and then also trade up. We just really didn't get a
- 2:04:01good opportunity to trade up again. But again, maybe if we did another
- 2:04:04ten of these, we probably would, but in this one it just didn't
- 2:04:08fall that way. For we were also targeting guys that were just like when
- 2:04:12we were trying to get Marshawn Nland it was too close to our picket sixty
- 2:04:15or whatever. It was like we weren't gonna get that turnaround this there's too
- 2:04:19many picks to jump. No. I think with that being said, this
- 2:04:24is a fun time. I'm gonna throw up the banner. I would say.
- 2:04:27It sounds like I just said I was gonna throw up. That says
- 2:04:29tootles folks. Actually, no, I'm gonna throw out the banner that says
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- 2:04:39it's just a mock. I do these as like thought exercises to kind of
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- 2:05:14Appreciate the kind words that are starting to come through in the chat for
- 2:05:16myself and Kendall. This has been an extremely fun episode. I want to
- 2:05:20thank everyone who rolled with this live. Do they deliver to Iowa? Actually
- 2:05:25you could maybe flash freeze it. It would probably cost a hefty penny,
- 2:05:28but they could probably figure out a way. I want to thank everyone who
- 2:05:30rolled with this live here on this episode. The chat was awesome, the
- 2:05:35back and forth with each other, the back and forth with ourselves, the
- 2:05:38suggestions, the likes, the dislikes. I appreciate everybody for telling me what
- 2:05:42was going on with you two when the view counter was off, and all
- 2:05:44the wonkiness. Very very very big thank you to Justin for all four of
- 2:05:47his super chats, absolutely awesome. Again, appreciate you folks so much for
- 2:05:55ryan with us live here on this episode. If you didn't roll with us
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- 2:06:41Mister Kendall Mursky making his return back to the stage. Haven't had you on
- 2:06:45I think since January. Nut, Yeah, it's been a minute, but
- 2:06:48it was nice to get you back in in the saddle here on the show.
- 2:06:53And this is a fun one to do, a little stressful for me
- 2:06:55with clicking buttons, but I think it was a good time. I appreciate
- 2:06:58you being here, of course, man, definitely you on the spot as
- 2:07:00the pauser, but we got it done absolutely good times. I appreciate everyone.
- 2:07:05Hope everyone is doing well. I hope you and your family and friends
- 2:07:09and loved ones are all doing well. Be kind to one another, take
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- 2:07:27the draft expert for the Athletic. His draft guide The Beast is absolutely amazing
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- 2:07:36that episode with Dame Brugler. Appreciate you, folks. See you next week.
- 2:07:42Godspeed. Oh hold on, Josh says, last opinion, and what
- 2:07:45would you think of trading back twenty eight and not first or second and later
- 2:07:50picks this year for Washington thirty and forty. I like the idea of trading
- 2:07:54back, if I'm reading this correctly, of trading back into Washington's stuff,
- 2:07:58I just if it yields me. If it if I can trade out of
- 2:08:00twenty eight and it yields me a pick in the thirties and it gets me
- 2:08:05third this year, I'm down for it. But I don't know if I'm
- 2:08:07trading first and second and later this year for the thirty six and forty.
- 2:08:11Although I am intrigued by that, i'd have to give us some thought.
- 2:08:13I like it, and I appreciate the kind words you're saying. I appreciate
- 2:08:16the content while driving across the country in my semi truck. Godspeed, I
- 2:08:18appreciate you, folks. If there's anything else we didn't get to get at
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- 2:08:26that I'm at Pro Underscore Underscore, and Kendall's at Murrsky Kendall. That'll do
- 2:08:31it for us here. Godspeed, and as always go Bills.