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The Kenny Report | 19 November · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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Speaker 2: All our warnings to you about our national energy self
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Speaker 2: harm vindicated and all Labour's lies exposed. Also the Trump
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Speaker 2: peace planned for Gaza endorsed by the UN Security Council.
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Speaker 1: So what next in Gaza?
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Speaker 2: I'll cross to Israel's deputy Foreign Minister to find out.
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Speaker 2: The ABC boss fronts up to the National Press Club
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Speaker 2: only to confirm he's digging in behind the National broadcasters.
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Speaker 2: Dodgy editing of US President Donald Trump. Interest rate cuts
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Speaker 2: off the agenda for a year or more. Could we
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Speaker 2: even see a rate rise? I'll get into that with
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Speaker 2: David Pearl, also an independent die Lee on Labour's silly.
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Speaker 1: Promise about free power.
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Speaker 2: Also Pauline Hansen, and of course the Wednesday wrangle with
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Speaker 2: the Nika de Giorgio and Justin Smith.
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Speaker 1: Let's get started.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: For years on this program, for more than a decade
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Speaker 2: on this station, I've been heavily focused on our national
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Speaker 2: energy self harm. I've been telling you that our rush
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Speaker 2: to renewables is pushing up prices, will always be more
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Speaker 2: expensive and will also undermine our energy reliability. Today we
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Speaker 2: get confirmation on this bleak outlook, confirmation that our power
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Speaker 2: prices are going to keep going up for at least
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Speaker 2: a decade. They're never coming down thanks to our so
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Speaker 2: called renewables transition. Now, I've argued for a decade or
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Speaker 2: more that this undermines our economy, our cost of living,
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Speaker 2: our manufacturing and small businesses, our economic competitive our competitiveness,
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Speaker 2: and our national energy security. And I've trotted out an
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Speaker 2: endless list of experts and operators explaining why this is
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Speaker 2: the case. But at every turn, these arguments, these blindingly
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Speaker 2: obvious facts, have been rejected by Labor, the Greens, and
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Speaker 2: the Tills, all those politicians and too many Liberals too.
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Speaker 2: They've all refused to use logic, rational thought and facts
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Speaker 2: that have instead run slogans, lies, and emotional.
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Speaker 4: Please, Australians know that the cheapest form of energy is renewables.
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Speaker 5: What else hasn't changed the economics that renewables are the
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Speaker 5: cheapest form of energy.
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Speaker 3: Renewables are the cheapest form of cheapest form of energy.
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Speaker 5: What's good for your bill is good for emissions.
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Speaker 6: Renewable energy is the cheapest form of energy.
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Speaker 3: The cheapest form of new energy is renewable energy. Renewables
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Speaker 3: are the cheapest form of energy.
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Speaker 5: The cheapest form of energy is renewable energy.
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Speaker 6: The cheapest form of elgiriocity is that from renewables.
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Speaker 1: Just rot.
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Speaker 2: Remember Labor hold us they'd cut our power bills by
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Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five dollars a year, but instead
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Speaker 2: they've gone up by about one thousand dollars a year. Labor,
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Speaker 2: the Greens and the tills have been talking nonsense, and
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Speaker 2: too many people have believed them, even as their bills.
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Speaker 1: Have gone up and up and up.
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Speaker 2: Now, a new report from the Australian Energy Council, a
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Speaker 2: collection of electricity generators and retailers companies committed to net
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Speaker 2: zero by twenty fifty, by the way, and committed to
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Speaker 2: delivering this so called transition to renewables well. Their new
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Speaker 2: report has revealed the costs and the problems of this
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Speaker 2: energy plan. This report surveyed sixteen CEOs of major electricity
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Speaker 2: companies to assess the challenges confronting our electricity grid, and
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Speaker 2: it's published some of their assessments anonymously. One says the
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Speaker 2: public haven't really cottoned on to the fact that there's
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Speaker 2: a cost to transition and power bills will go up
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Speaker 2: for a while before.
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Speaker 1: They go down. Governments have made.
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Speaker 2: Promises about bill reduction, but it's not coming anytime soon.
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Speaker 2: Another CEO says bills will increase for at least the
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Speaker 2: next decade given the scale of capital being deployed in
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Speaker 2: the industry.
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Speaker 1: This is the reality.
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Speaker 2: Anybody who follows these issues closely, anyone who can read
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Speaker 2: and think, would know this is inevitable. But the government
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Speaker 2: has been telling us the opposite. Here was the Energy
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Speaker 2: and Climate Minister Chris Bowen preaching at the UN Climate
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Speaker 2: Summit in Brazil just this week.
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Speaker 7: Australia knows, and the world knows, a transition to a cleaner, cheaper,
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Speaker 7: more reliable greed is good for emissions, good for energy security.
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Speaker 1: And good economics.
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Speaker 2: Now everyone should know this is nonsense. The escalating costs
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Speaker 2: of transmission and distribution buildouts, and of the renewable projects,
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Speaker 2: and of the firming and storage where they're all feeding into.
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Speaker 1: Our power bills.
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Speaker 2: Listen to how the Australian Energy Council summarizes the outlook
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Speaker 2: after surveying those energy CEOs. It says policymakers need to
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Speaker 2: keep their focus on affordability. The Achilles heel of the
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Speaker 2: energy transition, and that most CEOs expect prices to rise
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Speaker 2: in coming years as investment spending increases sharply and energy
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Speaker 2: affordability is at risk due to a combination of cost pressures.
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Speaker 2: It also takes a swipe that the government's electricity bill rebates,
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Speaker 2: saying a better plan is needed because untargeted retail bills supplements,
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Speaker 2: that's the government's rebates are only a band aid over
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Speaker 2: much more serious issues. All stuff we've been saying here
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Speaker 2: for week after week, month after month, and year after year.
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Speaker 2: Now it's been called out by the energy sector itself.
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Speaker 2: The energy reckoning is coming, and the people running our
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Speaker 2: energy companies know it. One of them says they're trying
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Speaker 2: to solve a triumvirate of price security and supply and
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Speaker 2: making it carbon friendly. And the thing that keeps them
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Speaker 2: awake is potentially risks to supply or system stability with
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Speaker 2: the transition.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this too has been top of our list of worries.
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Speaker 2: For all the cost, all the investment, we're still making
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Speaker 2: our grid more fragile and less reliable. It is, as
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Speaker 2: I say, an act of national self harm on a
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Speaker 2: grand scale, and it does enormous damage to our whole economy.
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Speaker 2: As one CEO put it, this is the calm before
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Speaker 2: the storm. The storm is coming around cost and competitiveness
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Speaker 2: and international competitiveness and industrialization. Yeah, we are an energy
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Speaker 2: rich nation making ourselves energy poor. We are deliberately undermining
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Speaker 2: our own economy. Its madness. The CEO of the A
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Speaker 2: and Z Bank told of parliamentary hearing today that net
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Speaker 2: zero by twenty fifty would be a very difficult target
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Speaker 2: to meet, even though some people believe it might be possible.
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Speaker 2: But he also warned about the consequences of trying to
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Speaker 2: do this and how they could be dire.
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Speaker 7: Indeed, just breaking with a pass it's almost it's very difficult.
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Speaker 1: It would create even more We could kill with a
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Speaker 1: medicine that's pretty sweat.
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Speaker 3: We could kill what so the medisine could kill the patient.
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Speaker 1: If you want medicine.
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Speaker 5: Concil, the transition has to be balanced.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we could kill our economy and it still
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Speaker 2: wouldn't change the climate because global emissions are still rising anyway.
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Speaker 2: Then there's this warning from another CEO in the Energy
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Speaker 2: Council report who said the cost of this transition is
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Speaker 2: really going to affect the people who can.
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Speaker 1: Afford it the least.
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Speaker 2: The people already struggling to pay their power bills are
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Speaker 2: going to get slammed with more costs from the transmission
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Speaker 2: and distribution costs that are yet to come, and the
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Speaker 2: higher cost of electricity with storage that's got to be
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Speaker 2: factored in. Yeah, the poor will suffer most. The working
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Speaker 2: families will suffer most from policies imposed by Labor with
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Speaker 2: support from the Greens and the tills.
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Speaker 3: Think about it this way.
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Speaker 2: The labor government is currently handing out money to people
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Speaker 2: who can afford to pay for solar panel on home batteries.
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Speaker 1: To help them lower their bills.
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Speaker 2: But the poor, working families, people who might rent, or
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Speaker 2: people who Labor pretends to represent, they can't afford to
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Speaker 2: spend ten thousand dollars or twenty thousand dollars on solar
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Speaker 2: panels and batteries. Instead, some of the tax that these
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Speaker 2: low income owners are paying, some of their tax is
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Speaker 2: funneled into the pockets of the wealthier people who can
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Speaker 2: install the home batteries with government subsidies. It's the same
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Speaker 2: with electric vehicle subsidies, too. Money goes from the poor
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Speaker 2: to the rich or because labor is desperate to reach
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Speaker 2: net zero and patch up the electricity grid that it's wrecked.
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Speaker 2: I say again, this is the greatest act of national
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Speaker 2: self harm this country has ever engaged in. The Coalition
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Speaker 2: has finally come to a position federally to oppose the
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Speaker 2: net zero scam.
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Speaker 8: Labour's train wreck of an energy policy has cost seventy
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Speaker 8: five billion dollars and to get to its twenty thirty
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Speaker 8: five announced targets, the BCA estimates another five hundred and
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Speaker 8: thirty billion dollars. Meanwhile, prices have gone up forty percent,
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Speaker 8: Affordability is at record lows and people are struggling. We
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Speaker 8: need to put affordable energy as a priority in our
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Speaker 8: policy and that's what we've done, and that's where the
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Speaker 8: government's failures are. So cost is a massively important consideration.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Liberals have got to stop squabbling over their
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Speaker 2: internal differences and attack and expose this unfolding cluster mess
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Speaker 2: each and every day. All the facts suit their argument,
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Speaker 2: The unfolding disaster will vindicate their stand. The managing director
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Speaker 2: and editor in chief of the ABC spoke at the
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Speaker 2: National Press Club today. Now, just as it is for
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Speaker 2: any one of the Green left, this was like a
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Speaker 2: home ground game for the leader of our publicly funded broadcaster.
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Speaker 2: I mean he was introduced by one of his ABC reporters,
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Speaker 2: and at least three of the questions came from ABC reporters,
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Speaker 2: while other journos, of course align themselves with the ABC.
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Speaker 2: Yet Hugh Marx that's m KS, of course, seem to
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Speaker 2: be defending the very right of the ABC to exist.
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Speaker 9: Any discussion of what makes Australia succeed over the long
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Speaker 9: term must include Australia's ABC. We have a big and
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Speaker 9: important role to play. It's one reason why we haven't
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Speaker 9: descended into warring tribes and instead broadly maintained our national unity.
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Speaker 9: But the ABC stands out as a precious national asset
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Speaker 9: of a kind you won't find in many other countries.
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Speaker 2: No, you won't find them in the other countries. And
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Speaker 2: I would argue the opposite. Actually, I would argue that
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Speaker 2: one of the reasons we have such a dishonest and
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Speaker 2: lopsided climate and energy debate in this country, one of
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Speaker 2: the reasons we are hurtly along to our energy self
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Speaker 2: harm is because we have a billion dollar public broadcasting
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Speaker 2: bayamoth pumping out green left propaganda day and night. In
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Speaker 2: that respect, it does harm to our national debate, our polity,
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Speaker 2: and our nation anyway. Apart from talking up the need
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Speaker 2: for journalistic impartiality, Marx said the ABC was open about
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Speaker 2: its errors.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes mistakes happen.
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Speaker 9: So when mistakes happen, we acknowledge them, we own them,
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Speaker 9: we make the correction, we move on.
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Speaker 3: We don't defend at all costs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he reckons the ABC is happy with being accountable.
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Speaker 9: I welcome reasonable scrutiny of the ABC, and we should
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Speaker 9: be subject to it, and sometimes that'll help us do
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Speaker 9: better work.
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Speaker 2: But his actions don't match his words, because he was
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Speaker 2: asked again about the deceptive reporting I've exposed here like.
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Speaker 7: This, Refusing to accept his defeat at the hands of
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Speaker 7: Joe Biden, Trump told his supporters to march on the
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Speaker 7: US Capitol.
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Speaker 1: Can we faith? Can we fight like how?
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Speaker 6: If you don't fight like how, you're not going to
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Speaker 6: have a country.
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Speaker 2: Trump never told supporters to march on the Capitol, and
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Speaker 2: the fight comments were not what he urged people to
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Speaker 2: do at the Capitol. That's deceptive scripting and editing. And
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Speaker 2: in another Four Corners report, there was the removal of
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Speaker 2: these comments where the president did say what he wanted
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Speaker 2: supporters to do.
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Speaker 10: We're going to walk down anyone you want, but I
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Speaker 10: think right here, we're going to walk down to the
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Speaker 10: cap it all, and we're going to cheer on our
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Speaker 10: brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not
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Speaker 10: going to be cheering so much for some of them.
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Speaker 2: It was deceptive to cut those words out and instead
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Speaker 2: go straight to other words about showing strength, because it
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Speaker 2: was clearly aimed at painting the picture of a president
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Speaker 2: encouraging violence.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, I've said those edits, those ABC edits that were deceptive.
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Speaker 2: I've said that here on Sky News and in the Australian,
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Speaker 2: and Sky News asked Marx about it again today.
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Speaker 9: I think the comparison of the ABC four Corners to
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Speaker 9: the BBC Panorama.
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Speaker 3: Show was opportunistic.
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Speaker 9: The same faults were not consistent on both programs, so
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Speaker 9: I didn't accept that was legitimate criticism and any reasonable
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Speaker 9: amount of work I think would have come to that conclusion.
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Speaker 9: So that one I thought was opportunistic and false.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's not about comparing the ABC to the BBC.
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Speaker 2: It's about comparing the ABC reporting to the truth to
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Speaker 2: the reality. And if Marx wants to call my reporting false.
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Speaker 2: He really should point out something I've said or written
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Speaker 2: that was wrong or incorrect or indeed false. Otherwise a gentleman,
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Speaker 2: I suppose, would apologize for getting it wrong. I mean,
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Speaker 2: back up my claims, is what I do. I back
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Speaker 2: up my claims with evidence. Marx is just making assertions
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Speaker 2: and refusing to investigate. Look whether it's inserting fake gunshots
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Speaker 2: to defame our soldiers in Afghanistan, or whether it's repeating
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Speaker 2: humas propaganda almost nightly on ABC News and.
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Speaker 1: Current Affairs, or whether it's bailing out.
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Speaker 2: A reporter with taxpayers funds who defame the liberal MP
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Speaker 2: on our own social media account, or deceptively editing Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump to fit their anti Trump narrative.
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Speaker 1: The ABC says it's.
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Speaker 2: Interested in journalistic integrity and in being accountable, but its.
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Speaker 1: Actions say otherwise.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to One Nation leader Pauline Hansen, who joins
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Speaker 2: us from Scenic in Queensland. Good to see you again, Paulina.
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Speaker 2: I want to go to the next challenge for the coalition.
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Speaker 2: They've obviously come to a landing to oppose net zero
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Speaker 2: at last, and they're turning their attention to a immigration
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Speaker 2: policy and reducing immigration. This is another area where you've
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Speaker 2: led that debate. As you point out, do you think
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Speaker 2: that they're sounding like they're making the right steps in
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Speaker 2: that policy area? That is, we do not have Pauline
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Speaker 2: Hanson there. We'll need to see if we can reconnect
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Speaker 2: with Pauline Hanson. But before I move on though, we'll
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Speaker 2: just show you what Susan Lee had to say about
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Speaker 2: the immigration and population debate today.
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Speaker 1: Here's the Opposition leader.
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Speaker 8: What we know is there's one point eight million people
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Speaker 8: coming in over five years. That's in their budget paper.
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Speaker 8: And we also know that their net overseas migration figure
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Speaker 8: is one hundred thousand higher than it was pre COVID levels.
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Speaker 8: So we have to have a balance, a balance between
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Speaker 8: infrastructure and people coming to Australia.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the Opposition leader, Susan Lee today. We'll go
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Speaker 2: back to Pauline Hanson in a moment if we can.
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Speaker 2: But I want to move on to the economy now,
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Speaker 2: and there's no sign of the cost of living crisis easing,
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Speaker 2: of course, with the Commonwealth Banks Boss warning that interest
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Speaker 2: rates won't be cut in the near future. Here's Matt
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Speaker 2: common at a parliamentary hearing yesterday.
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Speaker 11: I need our economics team's forecasts at the moment is
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Speaker 11: that cash will the cash on hold for the foreseeable future.
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Speaker 11: What does that practically mean more likely than not through
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Speaker 11: twenty twenty six. To answer your question directly, no, I
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Speaker 11: don't think our reduction in the cash raiders is likely
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Speaker 11: in twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring in the former Treasury Assistant Secretary, David.
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Speaker 1: Pearly writes for The Australian.
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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, David, So interest rates,
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Speaker 2: We've got a bitter.
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Speaker 1: Relief for this year.
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Speaker 2: Now we're looking at at least another year without an
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Speaker 2: interest rate cut. I suppose the killer question is instead,
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Speaker 2: could we see another interest rate increase?
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Speaker 5: Good afternoon, Chris, and to your viewers, and thanks for
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Speaker 5: having me on.
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Speaker 3: Look.
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Speaker 5: It's difficult to predict interest rates six months or a
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Speaker 5: year out, but I think it's very clear that the idea,
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Speaker 5: which was scooped by many of the bank economists until
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Speaker 5: only a couple of months ago, that we'd see multiple
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Speaker 5: cash rate cuts in the coming year. Well, the September
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Speaker 5: inflation reports put an end to that. It looks like
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Speaker 5: you're right. There is a real risk early in the
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Speaker 5: new year if inflation doesn't return to target, especially when
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Speaker 5: we consider the energy subsidies coming off. For the Bank
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Speaker 5: Board to raise the cash rate again, and that would
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Speaker 5: be a massive blow, I think to the Bank Board's credibility.
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Speaker 2: Before we go back to the future then and what
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Speaker 2: this country needs to address, I want to go back
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Speaker 2: to pre election now and look at that first interest
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Speaker 2: rate cut in February. Was there a Reserve Bank wrong
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Speaker 2: to cut interest rates when it did, and was it
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Speaker 2: perhaps influenced by politics wanting to give the government an
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Speaker 2: interest rate cut before the election.
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Speaker 5: Well that's what I wrote before and after the meeting,
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Speaker 5: because we have to remember that we don't have an
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Speaker 5: independent monetary policy in Australia, unlike every other Western country.
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Speaker 5: We have the serving Secretary of the Treasury setting interest
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Speaker 5: rates together with other members of the board and the
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Speaker 5: Reserve Bank governor. And Stephen Kennedy, who's now head of
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Speaker 5: the Prime Minister's Department, was on that board and I've
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Speaker 5: got no doubt, whether disingenuously or mistakenly, he was pushing
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Speaker 5: for a rate cut, and I think the board capitulated
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Speaker 5: in February because let's remember that underlying inflation, which is
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Speaker 5: the Reserve Bank Board's favorite measure was still above target
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Speaker 5: at the end of last year, and the labor market
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Speaker 5: was very tight. A number of respected fellow economists and
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Speaker 5: I discussed that cut before the Board meeting and we
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Speaker 5: didn't think there was a strong case. I think the
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Speaker 5: fact that the cameras Chris, which was unprecedented, were in
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Speaker 5: the room to record the opening of that meeting was
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Speaker 5: a giveaway that the fix was in. And if you
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Speaker 5: look at the opinion polling, Peter Dutton and the Conservatives
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Speaker 5: were ahead in November last year and by February, after
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Speaker 5: the interest rate cut, they were behind. It wasn't the
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Speaker 5: only factor behind their election defeat. So it was a
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Speaker 5: premature cut. Interest rate decisions are always sixty forty seventy thirty,
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Speaker 5: so I'm not saying it was a lay down mi air,
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Speaker 5: but a number of economists, including me, felt or was premature.
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Speaker 1: Political and premature.
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Speaker 2: Therefore it damages the reserve banks credibility, and it also
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Speaker 2: means that the alban easy labor.
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Speaker 1: Government owns the consequences.
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Speaker 2: I would have thought, let's we need act productivity growth
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Speaker 2: in this country.
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Speaker 1: That's clear, that's where we need to.
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Speaker 2: Get the economic growth without inflation. But I noticed there's
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Speaker 2: wages figures out today. They're running ahead of inflation, which
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Speaker 2: is good for wager and is of course, but is
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Speaker 2: it right to be worried that the growth there is
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Speaker 2: higher in the public sector, in the expanding public sector,
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Speaker 2: than it is in the market economy, in the free
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Speaker 2: enterprise sector of the economy.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, Chris. The more that the public sector dominates the
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Speaker 5: hiring of labor and output in the economy, the less
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Speaker 5: lightly where we are to grow, and the more inflation
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Speaker 5: prone will be. And even if nominal wages are growing
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Speaker 5: at only three or four percent a year, if productivity
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Speaker 5: is going backwards, labor costs for private industry in particular
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Speaker 5: are rising. And this is a major reason why inflation
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Speaker 5: is now back above the target because with low productivity,
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Speaker 5: the cost of labor has been rising for most of
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Speaker 5: this year. Chris, and businesses in the face of weak
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Speaker 5: household demand until recently, have been wearing that cost. But
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Speaker 5: as household demand has strengthened in recent months, they've been
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Speaker 5: more confident about passing those ons to consume consumers so
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Speaker 5: conctivity and that is why we're coming an inflation prone
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Speaker 5: economy that is reliant on immigration to keep GDP ticking over,
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Speaker 5: which is another problem as well.
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Speaker 2: It is such a worry there are a lot of
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Speaker 2: chickens coming home to rust.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, David, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Pel there, who was a former Assistant Treasury Secretary, writes
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Speaker 2: for The Australia. Now, fantastic insightful analysis there. We finished
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Speaker 2: up with a mention of immigration. So let's go back
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Speaker 2: to Pauline Hanson in Queensland. Now we've reconnected that link.
23:16
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us again, paul Land.
23:18
Speaker 2: We just heard there how this economy, the economic management
23:21
Speaker 2: here kind of relies on bringing more immigrants in. You've
23:25
Speaker 2: seen what Susan Lees had to say about it. Do
23:28
Speaker 2: you think the Coalition are on the right track then
23:30
Speaker 2: trying to claw back immigration numbers.
23:36
Speaker 12: They won't go hard enough on it, Chris. We're at Eastland.
23:38
Speaker 12: As David Pearl said, they're relying on hoigh immigration to
23:41
Speaker 12: prop up the GDP because if not would be in
23:44
Speaker 12: a recession government overspending. That's the problem that it is.
23:48
Speaker 12: The Coalition will be looking at the big undertown, the
23:51
Speaker 12: Business Councilor of Australia, those people that are looking at
23:53
Speaker 12: more productive to more moneys for their shareholders, whereas they're
23:57
Speaker 12: not looking at the average person out there who's finding
24:00
Speaker 12: it hard to get a home, get rendaled accommodation and
24:03
Speaker 12: have the services provide it to them in the hospital's
24:05
Speaker 12: nursing homes and what they need and the infrastructure. That's
24:09
Speaker 12: where the government, the labor and the Liberal Party will
24:11
Speaker 12: fail to see that we need to reduce immigration and
24:16
Speaker 12: the figures they're brought in and they're saying and they're
24:18
Speaker 12: going to say, oh, we need skill migrants. Let me
24:20
Speaker 12: just tell people again, between twenty two and twenty three,
24:23
Speaker 12: we brought in seven hundred and forty thousand, only fifty thousand,
24:27
Speaker 12: six hundred and five with skilled migrants. Of that, only
24:29
Speaker 12: eighteen hundred in the construction industry. So we're bringing in
24:33
Speaker 12: people who are not adding to what we need in skills,
24:36
Speaker 12: and we're bringing in foreign students that is adding to
24:39
Speaker 12: the problems that we have because the university say we
24:42
Speaker 12: want to bring men for the moneyes that we're making
24:44
Speaker 12: out of it. It's not in the best interest of
24:46
Speaker 12: the Austrange people. Just bring it down to one hundred
24:49
Speaker 12: and thirty thousand a year, then let's review it in
24:52
Speaker 12: a few years time. Make sure that people are getting
24:54
Speaker 12: the services that we require to give them a decent
24:57
Speaker 12: stand of living a way of life.
25:00
Speaker 2: We'll wait and see the detail from the Coalition, but
25:03
Speaker 2: I think blind Freddie can see it won't be as
25:06
Speaker 2: drastic aet cut in immigration as you're suggesting.
25:08
Speaker 1: Pauline.
25:08
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on two other things.
25:10
Speaker 2: One is I notice you've drawn attention to this ridiculous
25:13
Speaker 2: idea to spend a billion or close to two billion
25:16
Speaker 2: dollars of having the COP thirty one conference in Adelaide,
25:19
Speaker 2: But you've pointed out there wouldn't be enough parking for
25:22
Speaker 2: all the VIP.
25:23
Speaker 1: Jets at Adelaide Airport.
25:26
Speaker 6: Correct.
25:27
Speaker 1: Correct.
25:28
Speaker 12: I think at the last conference in I think of
25:30
Speaker 12: twenty twenty eight, there was over six hundred and sixty
25:33
Speaker 12: planes that actually went there. All these ones were about
25:35
Speaker 12: the environment, and they're all flying their private jets in
25:39
Speaker 12: There's no why in the wide world they're going to
25:41
Speaker 12: have to land or be able to land and park
25:43
Speaker 12: their planes in Adelaide. The costs just just tremendous.
25:47
Speaker 1: It would be hilarious heaving down path.
25:50
Speaker 2: They'd fly into Adelaide on their private jets and then
25:52
Speaker 2: they'd have to fly back empty to park them in
25:54
Speaker 2: the Melbourne or maybe Aim Woomera or Alice Springs or
25:58
Speaker 2: for a few days before they come back and pick
26:01
Speaker 2: up their politicians or billionaires or whatever. How ridiculous. And
26:05
Speaker 2: there's another little slice of life I do want to
26:07
Speaker 2: get from you, Pauline. You told the ABC yesterday that
26:10
Speaker 2: in order to discuss the next moves with Barnaby Joyce
26:13
Speaker 2: and whether he's going to run on your one Nation ticket,
26:15
Speaker 2: you'd have him over and cook him a home cooked meal.
26:18
Speaker 2: What would Pauline Hanson be planning to cook for Barnaby
26:21
Speaker 2: Joyce to talk politics.
26:24
Speaker 12: Well, I tell you what I'm doing. I'm going to
26:26
Speaker 12: cook him a good steak. He likes a good steak.
26:29
Speaker 12: I might get the real big one, the Tomahawk, and
26:31
Speaker 12: make sure I do it, do it well for him.
26:33
Speaker 12: I'm going to make him a past to sell it,
26:35
Speaker 12: a moulberry pie, and I'm going to have my cream potatoes.
26:39
Speaker 6: Barlett Crean potatoes.
26:40
Speaker 1: You're making me hungry. You're making me hungry.
26:43
Speaker 2: Now I'm I'm willing him telling him to bring over
26:48
Speaker 2: a bottle of good Barossa Charaz, but just one bottle,
26:51
Speaker 2: just one bottle. Thanks, for joining us, pulling Hans in there.
26:56
Speaker 2: He's already got the menu organized for dinner with Barnaby
26:59
Speaker 2: Joye say, surely he's going to surely he's going to
27:02
Speaker 2: run for One Nations in the Senate next next election.
27:05
Speaker 1: We shall see. We've got to get to a break
27:08
Speaker 1: after that.
27:08
Speaker 2: We're going to go to Israel with the Trump Peace
27:10
Speaker 2: Plan now endorsed by the UN Security Council.
27:14
Speaker 1: What next.
27:20
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen is still overseas at COP thirty in Belm
27:23
Speaker 2: in Brazil with the other politicians, bureaucrats and rent seekers.
27:27
Speaker 2: I mentioned a couple of weeks weeks ago. His latest
27:29
Speaker 2: gimmick is the great electricity giveaway.
27:32
Speaker 1: He's a reminder. It's called solid area.
27:35
Speaker 12: What it means is that energy companies.
27:37
Speaker 11: Will be required to offer you, if you have a
27:40
Speaker 11: smart leader, three hours of free power in the middle
27:44
Speaker 11: of the day when we have.
27:45
Speaker 5: So much solar energy in the system.
27:48
Speaker 2: Well at least one MP isn't buying Bohem's bunkom independent
27:52
Speaker 2: die Lee right in the Telegraph today. Families don't want
27:56
Speaker 2: symbolic freebees. They want real relief. They want lower bills,
28:01
Speaker 2: not tricks. The Member for Fowler Diary joins me now
28:04
Speaker 2: from Western Sydney. You good to talk to you again,
28:06
Speaker 2: Die good on you for calling this out.
28:10
Speaker 1: I mean there might be.
28:11
Speaker 2: Some consumers somewhere who get some benefit from it, but
28:15
Speaker 2: most people will miss out, and the energy retailers, we
28:18
Speaker 2: know we're going to pick up the costs somewhere else.
28:21
Speaker 1: Anyway.
28:22
Speaker 13: Absolutely, thanks Chris, great to be back again. Look, as
28:27
Speaker 13: we know, there's no such threat thing as a free lunch,
28:30
Speaker 13: and the practicality of those three three hours, it's just
28:36
Speaker 13: for those who actually ken who's working from home, who's
28:39
Speaker 13: got maybe a poor palm, who's got evs, who've got batteries,
28:44
Speaker 13: who've got just to stay home to charge, you know,
28:47
Speaker 13: use those appliances. Now, for majority of working families in
28:52
Speaker 13: Southwest Sydney, in Falala and in Western Sydney, they don't
28:56
Speaker 13: have that luxury to rush home to turn on you know,
28:59
Speaker 13: their air conditioning or whatever that needs to turn on
29:02
Speaker 13: so that they can actually maximize the use of those
29:05
Speaker 13: three hours of free energy. But not only that, you
29:09
Speaker 13: need to actually have a smart meter. First of all,
29:13
Speaker 13: as the clip said, you have to have a smart
29:15
Speaker 13: meter to actually take advantage of these three three hours
29:20
Speaker 13: of energy. And that means there's going to be cost sure.
29:23
Speaker 13: Even if you have a free smart meter meter, you
29:26
Speaker 13: will still have to pay an ongoing cost on your
29:29
Speaker 13: energy bills. Now, of course these three hours of free
29:32
Speaker 13: energy is available the retailer, it's going to the price
29:37
Speaker 13: is going to be hyped up somewhere. So at the
29:39
Speaker 13: end of the day, the majority of people use energy,
29:44
Speaker 13: you know, after after they pick up the kids from school,
29:47
Speaker 13: and it's mainly in the evening, So how are those
29:50
Speaker 13: families going to be compensated or how they're going to
29:54
Speaker 13: be able to manage their energy use. But the other
29:57
Speaker 13: critical issue here is for businesses. A lot of majority
30:02
Speaker 13: of businesses use energy and so this is not an
30:05
Speaker 13: answer for them at all. So all its to me,
30:10
Speaker 13: this is just a political spin, a virtue signaling. It's
30:17
Speaker 13: I just don't get it that we actually have a
30:20
Speaker 13: serious issue around the rising cost of energy the bills,
30:25
Speaker 13: and yet the government is spending time having this kind
30:30
Speaker 13: of spin in terms of their policies around addressing the
30:34
Speaker 13: rising cost of energy and other things as well.
30:37
Speaker 2: Just sorry, sorry to jump in there, but just on
30:40
Speaker 2: the same theme, right, these subsidized batteries that are going
30:44
Speaker 2: in you know, theoretically they're fine, but you've got to
30:47
Speaker 2: have had you have to have solar panels to start with.
30:50
Speaker 2: So you've spent ten thousand dollars or more to put
30:52
Speaker 2: solar panels in. Then you've got to pay for the
30:55
Speaker 2: battery in the main yourself.
30:57
Speaker 1: Anyway, you might pay.
30:58
Speaker 2: Ten thousand dollars and get four thousand from the government. Now,
31:02
Speaker 2: how many working families can afford to do that. I'm
31:05
Speaker 2: working families paying more tax so that rich people elsewhere
31:10
Speaker 2: can get the government subsidies for these batteries.
31:13
Speaker 13: Oh look absolutely, Look, you know, in terms of the
31:16
Speaker 13: home batteries, it's great that the government has done something,
31:19
Speaker 13: but it's going to be subsidized, and it's those who
31:21
Speaker 13: can afford. And I've said this, you know I can
31:23
Speaker 13: afford it, but majority of working families in westerns and
31:27
Speaker 13: they cannot afford to get a batteries, a battery or
31:30
Speaker 13: even solar panels in the first place. Now, the three
31:33
Speaker 13: free hour, if you think about it, will discourage if
31:37
Speaker 13: you were to have solar panels in order to you know,
31:40
Speaker 13: take advantage of our solar energy. You will be discouraged
31:45
Speaker 13: if you were going to go down that path, thinking
31:47
Speaker 13: that that three three hours is what you need and
31:50
Speaker 13: you don't go down that path. But there's a lot
31:53
Speaker 13: of I think holes in the way that I mean,
31:56
Speaker 13: I'm not an energy expert, but there's a lot of
31:58
Speaker 13: holes in the way that the and is approaching the
32:01
Speaker 13: whole energy this whole energy conversation and how to address
32:07
Speaker 13: it to bring energy prices down, and they're not going
32:10
Speaker 13: to bring it down. And we keep on seeing that
32:12
Speaker 13: energy prices goes up and that in turn affects the
32:16
Speaker 13: cost of living, grocery prices, food prices, doing business has
32:22
Speaker 13: gone up. Everything has gone up. And I think to
32:24
Speaker 13: have this gimmick of just three three hours of energy,
32:29
Speaker 13: they're not taking the seriousness of the moordability of families
32:34
Speaker 13: in Southwest and Western Sydney.
32:36
Speaker 2: Spot On Dillet, it's a gimmick, it's not serious policy.
32:38
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us, Dili, they're the member
32:41
Speaker 2: for Fouler. She is spot on there and repeating what
32:44
Speaker 2: we found out at the top of the show and
32:45
Speaker 2: that report from the Energy Council, the Australian Energy Council.
32:48
Speaker 2: They have just vindicated everything we've been saying to you
32:50
Speaker 2: about this for months, four years, and that is This
32:53
Speaker 2: renewables transition is just pushing up costs, and it's going
32:57
Speaker 2: to keep pushing up costs, and it's going to demand
33:00
Speaker 2: reliability and the security of.
33:04
Speaker 1: Our national economy.
33:05
Speaker 2: Now after the break, we are going to go to
33:07
Speaker 2: Israel catch up with Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister, Sharon Haskill.
33:14
Speaker 2: The United Nations Security Council has approved the US plan,
33:18
Speaker 2: the Trump Plan, to authorize an international stabilization force in Gaza.
33:23
Speaker 1: Here's the latest from CBS News.
33:26
Speaker 14: The US says that there are multiple countries but not
33:29
Speaker 14: naming them, have offered to contribute forces. Another is that
33:33
Speaker 14: goal of the total demilitarization of Gaza, which frankly will
33:37
Speaker 14: be an enormous task if that can be achieved. And
33:40
Speaker 14: then third, there's the establishment of a Board of Peace
33:44
Speaker 14: and that, as President Trump has said many times, it
33:47
Speaker 14: is something that he will chair.
33:50
Speaker 2: That's cross to Israel and catch up with Sharon Haskell,
33:53
Speaker 2: the Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel. Great to talk to
33:56
Speaker 2: you again, as Sharon, it's good news that this peace
33:59
Speaker 2: plan has been endorsed by the UN Security Council. How
34:03
Speaker 2: quickly will that change what's happening on the ground in Gaza?
34:06
Speaker 2: In terms of stabilization forces and maybe even better aid distribution.
34:12
Speaker 1: Than the like.
34:15
Speaker 15: It really depends on the international community and how much
34:17
Speaker 15: pressure they are going to put down Comas, because there
34:20
Speaker 15: are two problems who remain unresolved. One of them is
34:25
Speaker 15: that Commas is defying even the first stage of the ceasefire,
34:30
Speaker 15: constantly shooting, sending drones and the most important thing, hasn't
34:34
Speaker 15: returned all the hostages yet and this is almost a
34:37
Speaker 15: month from the point where they were meant to already
34:40
Speaker 15: release the entire all of them. We know they're playing games,
34:44
Speaker 15: they know where they are, but they are trying to
34:46
Speaker 15: press on the red lines. And the other point is
34:49
Speaker 15: dismantling Commas. Who's going to do that. So if there's
34:52
Speaker 15: not going to be massive international pressure now, pressure being
34:58
Speaker 15: put even on countries like Egypt, then Katar and Turkey
35:01
Speaker 15: who have the leverage to put that pressure on Hamas
35:05
Speaker 15: to disarm. We are going to face two choices, you know,
35:10
Speaker 15: whether they're going to continue to put that pressure going
35:14
Speaker 15: through diplomatic means, or who's going to disarm them. Sure
35:20
Speaker 15: that the only part that will be there is that
35:21
Speaker 15: Israel will go and disarm them.
35:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's surely that the UN Security Council
35:26
Speaker 2: move should help because this is not now seen as
35:29
Speaker 2: an American plan.
35:30
Speaker 1: This is now a United Nations plan. And if you're
35:34
Speaker 1: going to have.
35:34
Speaker 2: Arab nations from the region committing to a stabilization force,
35:39
Speaker 2: they're not going to put their people in harm's way.
35:42
Speaker 2: If Hamas are still armed in Gaza, surely they need
35:45
Speaker 2: to have Hamas disarm themselves before they put any of
35:49
Speaker 2: their forces in there.
35:52
Speaker 15: And that's why it was important for me to mention
35:54
Speaker 15: that before we completely celebrate that that you know, these
35:59
Speaker 15: forces are continually saying that they will not go into
36:02
Speaker 15: the Gaza street before Hamas is dismantle. So how are
36:06
Speaker 15: we going to dismantal Kramas? And there are still two
36:09
Speaker 15: path diplomacy and military. I really hope that through diplomatic
36:15
Speaker 15: pressure they will be able to leverage that into pressed
36:19
Speaker 15: commas to disarm. But this is a huge challenge that
36:22
Speaker 15: is sitting ahead and this is something that all government,
36:25
Speaker 15: all government around the world, Western democracies, Arab countries who
36:30
Speaker 15: have participated, you know, in different means during the last
36:33
Speaker 15: two years to put an immense amount of pressure on
36:36
Speaker 15: Hamas and it is now because the longer it takes,
36:40
Speaker 15: the more control they are taking in neighborhoods, and the
36:43
Speaker 15: harder it will become to dismantle them.
36:46
Speaker 2: Now, in the relative calm of the past few weeks,
36:49
Speaker 2: and of course, as you point out, there have been
36:52
Speaker 2: have been a tacked from Hamas, and there have been
36:54
Speaker 2: efforts by Israel to take out Hamas operatives who are
36:58
Speaker 2: still operating. But it's been relative come compared to the
37:02
Speaker 2: previous two years.
37:04
Speaker 1: What more has Israel learned about the.
37:06
Speaker 2: State of affairs in Gaza, the humanitarian situation, the so
37:11
Speaker 2: called genocide, I mean, all this has gone quiet. Surely
37:15
Speaker 2: there must be evidence now on the ground of exactly
37:18
Speaker 2: what the death toll was and what the humanitarian situation is,
37:21
Speaker 2: and we're not hearing about it from the global media.
37:25
Speaker 15: Well you're not hearing it because a lot of those
37:28
Speaker 15: you know, fabrications were completely dismantled and exploded. You know,
37:34
Speaker 15: it was I think it was two weeks already after
37:36
Speaker 15: the ceasefire was announced that the United Nations Organization of
37:40
Speaker 15: UNICETH have said that there is enough food for months
37:43
Speaker 15: in Gaza. Yeah, and then it suddenly became that no,
37:48
Speaker 15: it was there. These are fabrications. They're more and more
37:51
Speaker 15: propaganda the TAMAS is trying to push. Even now it
37:55
Speaker 15: continues to do that. But right now journalists are going
37:58
Speaker 15: into Gaza and they're reporting as well from the field,
38:02
Speaker 15: and they see they see those fabrications and the propaganda
38:06
Speaker 15: that camass and that the world didn't challenge, you know,
38:10
Speaker 15: channels like the BBC and CNN and other channels who
38:17
Speaker 15: unfortunately didn't look after the journalistic integrity and were just
38:22
Speaker 15: reporting from the mouthpiece of Commas without asking the hard questions.
38:28
Speaker 2: Deputy Foreign Minister, has there been any offer from Australia
38:31
Speaker 2: to assist in the peace plan?
38:37
Speaker 15: Well, not as far as I'm aware of. I think
38:40
Speaker 15: that also the last move of Prime Minister Albanisi with
38:45
Speaker 15: the clearing of Palestinian state, I think that there was
38:49
Speaker 15: more understanding how damaging it was to the process instead
38:53
Speaker 15: of construction, constructing and pushing towards stability and towards a
38:59
Speaker 15: cease fire. I think that, you know, the relationships and
39:03
Speaker 15: the channels are rebuilding now, but still it is far
39:07
Speaker 15: from being mutual and taking part in that corporation right now.
39:12
Speaker 2: Sharon Haskell, thanks so much for joining us again. Really
39:14
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Sharon Haskell there from Live from Israel, the
39:18
Speaker 2: Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel. We're going to go to
39:21
Speaker 2: a break on the other side, well, at the Wednesday
39:22
Speaker 2: Wrangle with Danika de Georgia and Justin Smith. We'll discuss
39:25
Speaker 2: the spat in one State Parliament about the word mate
39:30
Speaker 2: the warps. It's Wednesday, Let's wrangle. We got Danika to
39:37
Speaker 2: Georgia on the desk. Of course, as usual, Justin.
39:39
Speaker 6: Stevens fired up.
39:41
Speaker 1: He's been limbering up in the studios in Melbourne.
39:43
Speaker 2: We'll get into it and we're going to start off
39:45
Speaker 2: with one of his favorite world leaders, of course, and
39:47
Speaker 2: that is the US President Donald Trump and the Epstein files.
39:52
Speaker 2: You're looking forward to all of these documents being released.
39:55
Speaker 16: Justin jeez, it's been one hell of a build up,
39:58
Speaker 16: is it. There better be something in interesting in there,
40:00
Speaker 16: and it feels like there's something is look I think
40:03
Speaker 16: in all of this mess too. I just hope there
40:06
Speaker 16: is something very strong for the victims, because there have
40:10
Speaker 16: been a lot of victims of Epstein. That mongrel has
40:14
Speaker 16: been spewing his bile around the world and creating a
40:20
Speaker 16: hell of a lot of damage. So I hope that
40:22
Speaker 16: it brings it brings something. I hope it brings a
40:25
Speaker 16: lot of justice for the victims and also against the perpetrators.
40:30
Speaker 2: Of course, the House of Reps in the US passed
40:33
Speaker 2: it with a strong majority. It went up to the
40:35
Speaker 2: Senate and got sailed through like this this vote.
40:40
Speaker 10: The years are four hundred and twenty seven, the nails
40:43
Speaker 10: are one two thirds being in the affirmative, the rules
40:48
Speaker 10: are suspended, the bill is passed, and without objection, the
40:52
Speaker 10: motion to reconsider is laid on the table.
41:00
Speaker 2: That, of course, with those numbers is the House, not
41:02
Speaker 2: the Senate. But believe me, and then sail through the
41:05
Speaker 2: Senate and Denika.
41:06
Speaker 1: The interesting thing.
41:07
Speaker 2: Is now Trump is said, after resisting this for so long,
41:10
Speaker 2: he said that he'll sign this bill. So he has
41:12
Speaker 2: to sign this bill. Then they'll have thirty days to
41:15
Speaker 2: get all the documents out. But there is still room
41:18
Speaker 2: for maneuver there where the Justice Department or the Attorney General.
41:21
Speaker 2: Pam bondoken, she can actually strike out some names to
41:25
Speaker 2: protect victims and the like. But you know, we're not
41:27
Speaker 2: certain we're going to see everything, are we.
41:29
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
41:29
Speaker 17: I know that Kristen Tate even said to you in
41:31
Speaker 17: your program this week that she wasn't convinced that all
41:33
Speaker 17: of the names are going to be released.
41:35
Speaker 1: Look, this had to happen because.
41:37
Speaker 17: Don't forget that Donald Trump promised this. He actually want
41:40
Speaker 17: us to release the Epstein files, so we can't be surprised.
41:43
Speaker 17: And you know the Democrats that I think have been
41:46
Speaker 17: trying desperately in the last few weeks to once again
41:48
Speaker 17: try and link Donald Trump to the Epstein files. My
41:51
Speaker 17: question would be, well, Joe Biden had the power to
41:54
Speaker 17: do this all for all these years and he never
41:56
Speaker 17: did not once And what use that is sort of
41:59
Speaker 17: a herring, a red herring. Before the election, if there
42:02
Speaker 17: was genuine evidence against Donald Trump, they could have used it.
42:05
Speaker 17: The reality is they didn't. Of Chase, I'm ready with
42:08
Speaker 17: the popcorn.
42:09
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for this moment. I cannot wait. I'm with you, Like,
42:13
Speaker 1: where were the Democrats? They had all that time I'm
42:15
Speaker 1: under Biden to get it out there.
42:17
Speaker 2: They obviously didn't want it. They're worried about the Clintons
42:19
Speaker 2: and whatever. They hushed it all up, just like Hunter
42:21
Speaker 2: Biden's laptop. But absolutely Trump said he'd release it, and
42:25
Speaker 2: he went back on his word, and now he's been
42:27
Speaker 2: forced by the Congress to basically go back to what
42:30
Speaker 2: he originally said. Let's see what happens, but I'll tell
42:32
Speaker 2: you what. I want to show you something here from
42:34
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. This happened a few days ago, but it's
42:36
Speaker 2: only come to light now. Just a shocking way. He
42:40
Speaker 2: speaks to a female journalist. Here you watch the clip.
42:43
Speaker 2: He calls her piggy.
42:48
Speaker 18: Yep, he really did call a female reporter a piggy.
42:51
Speaker 18: She was pappering him with uncomfortable questions about the Epstein files.
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Speaker 18: Trump answered her first question, I know nothing about every episode,
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Speaker 18: and I had a great man relationship for many years.
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Speaker 18: But when she tried to ask a follow up, he
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Speaker 18: lashed out. This photograph of the moment shows just how
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Speaker 18: angry the President is, thrusting his finger right in the
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Speaker 18: reporter's face.
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Speaker 2: Now, I'm going to let you have a first crack
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Speaker 2: at this, Danika. You cannot cool someone piggy, and you
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Speaker 2: cannot stick your finger in their face.
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Speaker 17: No, I thought that was entirely unnecessary. I thought that
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Speaker 17: was really really rude. The reality is is she was
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Speaker 17: just doing her job. She is a reporter, She is
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Speaker 17: asking a genuine question.
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Speaker 6: The word pig.
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Speaker 17: The word pig is you just do not call somebody
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Speaker 17: that and you don't put your finger. I thought it
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Speaker 17: was I agree. I think it was wrong.
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Speaker 2: Pretty appalling stuff, and justin that's the trouble with Trump,
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Speaker 2: the stuff like that that goes to.
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Speaker 1: The heart of the man.
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Speaker 2: Right, it's revealing that most of us would couldn't imagine Howselve's.
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Speaker 6: Doing that, right, No, absolutely not.
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Speaker 16: But he has been doing this for years, and I
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Speaker 16: mean the name calling. I mean even in the very
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Speaker 16: first campaign it was making fun of a disabled reporter
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Speaker 16: calling people names.
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Speaker 6: And he's been doing this for so long.
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Speaker 16: And you notice he only ever goes after those reporters
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Speaker 16: when they've really got him, which is our job, when
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Speaker 16: they're really asking him the tough questions, you know, he
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Speaker 16: tells them, listen, I'm going to go after your you know,
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Speaker 16: and your ratings are failing. He starts to call them names.
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Speaker 16: It's the same old pattern over and over again with him,
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Speaker 16: isn't it.
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Speaker 2: Well what it told me of course that he is
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Speaker 2: desperately worried about these Epstein files.
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Speaker 1: That's obviously got under his skin. So we will wait
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Speaker 1: and see. We all want to see what's contained in
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Speaker 1: these files. I want to go to the.
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Speaker 2: COP thirty hypocrisy and indulgence in Brazil, but I want
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Speaker 2: to revisit it through a local angle that we used
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Speaker 2: on the program last night. And there was a local
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Speaker 2: mayor in Adelaide, the mayor of Mitche, a lovely foothills, leafy.
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Speaker 1: Area of Adelaide. This mayor went to.
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Speaker 2: Brazil for a climate conference in the lead up to
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Speaker 2: the COP thirty meeting.
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Speaker 1: And listen to the exchange here.
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Speaker 2: Where five double as David Pembrothy asked to a pretty
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Speaker 2: pertinent question right at the end.
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Speaker 1: I just want to final question, did you offset the trip?
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Speaker 3: Because it's a pretty lengthy flight.
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Speaker 2: To Brazil, And you mean, did I offset it for.
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Speaker 3: The carbon footprint?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't understand what you mean when
45:30
Speaker 1: I don't know if.
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Speaker 4: You book the flights yourself, but when you book a flight,
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Speaker 4: you can offset the carbon footprint for the trip. Did
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Speaker 4: you do that?
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I didn't book the fight. She doesn't know. Justin she
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Speaker 1: didn't book the flight.
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Speaker 2: I mean, our local mayor is now going to save
45:45
Speaker 2: the planet flying across to Brazil and she doesn't even
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Speaker 2: know what the offset carbon offset.
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Speaker 6: Is the local mayors shouldn't be doing these trips.
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Speaker 16: I mean you and you and I differ greatly on
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Speaker 16: climate change and what should be done, but local counselors
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Speaker 16: and local mayors going on overseas trips for something like this, there.
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Speaker 6: Are very few people.
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Speaker 16: It's usually involving tourism in the industry, Very very few
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Speaker 16: local councilors and city mayors should have the opportunity to
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Speaker 16: go overseas and they should be able to show the
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Speaker 16: value what a total waste of money for the ratepayers
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Speaker 16: of that area. I just that's the outrageous part. It's
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Speaker 16: not even what it's what the trip's necessarily about. The
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Speaker 16: overseas trip component is the outrageous.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and Danika, there were three meres from South Australia went.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what on earth, why.
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Speaker 17: Do we need three mayors south of Australia. I think
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Speaker 17: there was a police representative that went. There was about
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Speaker 17: five hundred of them swaning about on this trip to
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Speaker 17: Brazil with Chris Bowen. Of course we heard from Chris
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Speaker 17: Bowen on this trip what he's doing over there, and
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Speaker 17: I love it that they've all gone over there on
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Speaker 17: their jet engines to what discuss about the impacts of
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Speaker 17: jet engines, Chris, is that.
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Speaker 16: Come on, change a channel ket off that one, of
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Speaker 16: course people have got to fly around the world.
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Speaker 6: Really a shock to you that people have to fly
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Speaker 6: to get to the other end.
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Speaker 17: But justin, if you're going to go over there to
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Speaker 17: progress him, you know, profess your climate change, you know.
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Speaker 6: Then what don't you be thinking about?
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Speaker 17: What do you want to flying flying over there that's
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Speaker 17: actually going to impact the carbon footprint? Isn't that a problem?
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Speaker 3: Justin?
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Speaker 17: You know, well, they're obviostly going to be discussing it.
47:27
Speaker 1: And then you've got William flew In he.
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Speaker 6: Did a you'll mentioned Leonardo DiCaprio again.
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Speaker 17: Now well I'm shocked that Leonardo DiCaprio with it. You've
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Speaker 17: got Prince William piggybacking on Keir Starmer's play.
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Speaker 2: I would mention a Blokouo acts almost as well as
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Speaker 2: Leonardo DiCaprio.
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Speaker 1: And that is Chris Bowen, who keeps telling us that
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Speaker 1: he's saving the planet.
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Speaker 3: He was there.
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Speaker 2: Have we got time just to go to this clip
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Speaker 2: from the New South Wales Parliament about the mate.
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Speaker 4: Of floodwaters. Don't cross war again? For Dan they come
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Speaker 4: in through. See if I can remember the gross, the coolo,
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Speaker 4: the Nepean. You love to hear your insights, mate.
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Speaker 7: The Premier referred to the memph kellervill as mate.
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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, members, Members will come to order and I
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Speaker 6: will uphold the point of order.
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Speaker 4: Now they're declaring war on matship, these great Australian sayings.
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Speaker 1: I refuse to withdraw it.
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Speaker 7: Mate.
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Speaker 17: I don't like mate. I do not like mate in
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Speaker 17: the workplace. I don't like being called mate.
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Speaker 1: Come on, mate, I don't.
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Speaker 5: Like to be mate.
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Speaker 17: I've gotta be honest.
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Speaker 2: No, you've got to be able to say mate in
48:40
Speaker 2: parliament that you justin.
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Speaker 16: I think you do. Absolutely. I will descend to the death.
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Speaker 16: I will march in the street from the from Premier
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Speaker 16: men's well, thank you to fight for mate.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: You're both mates of mine and we'll see you see
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Speaker 2: you back here next week.
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Speaker 1: Mates. That's all the time we got for you. Is
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Speaker 1: Peter Kredlin two