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[EP67] How to deal with anxiety about using AI (is it your values or not understanding it?) · AWAKEN with Dylan Ayaloo: Inner Work, Healing, Yoga & Meditation

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  I agree with the, it has the ability because our reliance on it, because of its ability to make things easy or seem easier, that we become reliant on it.
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  So we stop doing the thing that we can bring most value in, which is thinking.
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  You know, and I know in a work, I talk about thinking as a thing that gets in the way of being.
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  But that's, you know, another topic, right?
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  Like that's another level.
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  But thinking has a place.
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  And so let's talk about, you know, let's say like creativity, you know, or writing.
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  You know, even if it's like writing a blog or writing an email.
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  at the end of the day
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  AI can be in my opinion from my experience
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  it can be used to do all of the heavy lifting
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  you know in the background you know like doing the research
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  putting things together maybe coming up with stuff but ultimately
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  you know it's still I think of it like it's like a machine
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  you know so even from back in my
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  my like tech days back in the day um you know we have to say we have a saying that it's like garbage
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  in garbage out so you know and with ai it's actually we don't even have to put garbage in
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  it just kind of it has this ability to like just fill up the blanks so therefore you know we just
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  kind of get lazy and we rely on it but you know i think outsourcing our own kind of agency and
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  thinking is probably not a good idea because it's training our brain to you know it's like
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  the muscle of thinking we are we are you know not doing the thinking part but i think if we
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  are doing our own thinking and coming up with our ideas and um creativity our own voice and then
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  we're using ai in a way that you know can maybe do the heavy lifting like let's say it does the
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  work of, I don't know, in place of having a team. Like, you know, for example, for the stuff I do,
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  I don't have a team. My team is basically like just AI. Like I've just kind of built things and
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  it runs things, you know, in the background. So therefore I can get quite a lot of stuff
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  happening in the background and it's automated. The automations, you know, they just run themselves.
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  But the thinking behind it is something that I think, you know, each and every one of us,
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  we should be doing. Also, I think, you know, how many times do you, like, let's say if you're on
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  social media, you know, you pick up like a post that just pops up, or maybe you get an email,
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  and it just, you can tell that that person who put their name on the email didn't write the email,
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  like you can just read it, and it just sounds like some robot slop, basically, like AI slop.
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  and I don't know about you
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  but I think for me
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  it can just feel like, hang on
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  you couldn't even care
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  to spend a few minutes
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  and sometimes it takes more than a few minutes
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  to just sit down and write the email
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  and send me the thing
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  so what do we do?
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  We're just going to switch off
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  I'm sure you guys do that too
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  so same with
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  stuff that's just like
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  so much AI slop now
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  which we were predicting
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  like you know a couple years ago when AI launched now there is so in a sense you know if you're
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  running a business you know especially if it's like you're the face of the brand which you know
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  is needed for most of our businesses you know our people our community our customers still
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  wants to relate you know to us like they want to relate to you they want to feel like even if it's
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  a short email there's mistakes in it you know or just like spelling errors or just like sounds you
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  know a bit strange but like it's a human that actually took time to write it that's better
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  than having a perfectly written email maybe grammatically but you can tell it's just kind
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  of like slop like just you know ai slop basically or just ai right um and they couldn't you know
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  Like all that's needed there is I could get it to help me write kind of a draft of it.
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  But at the end of the day, like I want to put my voice to it.
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  And I think, you know, that's just like a letter or an email or a message.
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  But if we zoom out to bigger things, like let's say if it's, you know, my business and I'm thinking about, you know, what to put the resources into, what to focus on.
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  AI is just going to fill up the blanks and make things up, you know, and guess.
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  does it's very good at doing that so it's good at like you can use that for certain things it's very
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  good at doing that but for other things you know it's just probably not the right you still want
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  to do your own thinking like you know you still want to kind of work out what is the thing you
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  know which direction do i want to take my business what is it that i enjoy what is my purpose here
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  what is the biggest bottleneck what are my customers saying to me you know and thinking
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  through that you know and having the conversations and listening to people and you know adjusting
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  and also what matches and how you can serve your customers, for example.
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  So like there's, you know, thinking, if anything, is at more a premium.
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  You know, authenticity is at more a premium.
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  And because everything is kind of just so sloppy right now,
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  it's just like so much just AI crap out there.
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  In a way, it's easier than ever to stand out.
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  It's by being real.
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  It's by being authentic.
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  you know it's by actually taking a moment to write an email even if it's kind of you make some mistakes some human mistakes there or if we're doing a video for it to just that you know like there's the ums and ahs and you know you're fumbling around in it and that's okay because people can relate they can see like okay there's a real person that actually took some time to record that message you know for me and whoever else is listening.
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  so I think you know there's a time and place for it but it can you know it can be used for
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  I want to say wrong things but like not useful things you know and that is I agree with what
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  you're saying in my opinion like outsourcing thinking is not a good idea because it's we
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  I don't think it was actually kind of even built for that you know well it's built for you know
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  it's continually evolving this whole other conversation but so i agree on like you know
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  just like we would work out our muscles we want to keep working you know our thinking muscle
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  you know and our ability to discern and um you know like have distinctions between different
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  ideas and come up with ideas and thoughts and you know creativity and all of that i think there is
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  just like any other tool that has been you know created through human history you know whether it
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  was like i don't know back in the day when they were plowing the field with the horse and the cart
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  and then suddenly someone came out with the tractor and they're like oh i'm not going to
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  use a tractor because you know it's burning fuel and it's this and that and you know and then now
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  was just like normal you know all I don't know when computers I wasn't I
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  came after computers came but it was kind of like early days you know when I
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  was a kid you know like back in the day the early days of computers from then
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  you know people were like oh technology doesn't like me or I'm allergic to
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  technology or he hates me and it's like no it's just like a machine you know
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  like does your toaster hate you does your cattle hate you is making that
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  noise i mean maybe it hates me and it's like we're making shit up you know like a computer is just
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  computer now it's actually more normal than it was maybe 20 30 years ago you know we just use it for
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  what we use it for and i think it's the same kind of mindset that like you can either resist it
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  or and which is completely you know up to whoever wants to do that or for me i believe like i'm just
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  in a question of how can I use this superpower like it's actually a superpower you know like
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  most people have no idea how powerful this technology is it's like having a nuclear bomb
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  being given to just a general human being like everyone everyday person you know and you can
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  take that and use it as some people are to heal diseases that have never been able to be healed
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  advance, you know, health, connection, you know, all sorts of things.
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  Like our experience of being here as a human being to make it even better, to improve it.
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  And then there's people who are using it for very evil things, you know, because that's
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  how they're wired.
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  And then, you know, everything in between.
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  But most people are kind of just using it for like day to day, just like being lazy.
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  Like, you know, I don't want to think.
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  So I'll just like, you know, give it the thing.
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  path of least resistance you know and I think just like the muscle when you go
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  to the gym and work it out or when you're doing yoga postures you know like
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  you're working the muscle you're stretching it you're strengthening it if
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  you don't use it atrophies it's kind of like that you know the ability to think
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  and be creative you know if anything I think it can be used in such a way that
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  at least my opinion is that it can automate all of those mundane things
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  that I really don't need to be doing you know like I don't need to go down
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  stairs or you know like go into the I don't know the bush and find some pieces
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  of wood and rocks and then you know find some how to like make a pot and then you
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  know like find some I go and find some water and then you know like put the
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  fire on so I can boil the water like I've got a device that I can just pour
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  water and click it it boils water done and I can make cup tea I want right so
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  you know so i believe it can be used in such a way that it can automate some of those mundane
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  things so that it frees us up to have more of the things that actually matter to us you know like
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  connecting with our loved ones you know going out in nature experiencing like you know just
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  all of the stuff that makes us human and this human experience that we can actually experience
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  more of that and you know use you know a superpower that's been put in our hands that
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  it's never existed before in ways that can maybe help others you know and it maybe doesn't have to
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  like be so grandiose as it it heals a disease you know of you know in humanity you can obviously if
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  you want to because it's more possible now than ever but it can even just be little things you
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  And there are lots of people who have come up with amazing, amazing ideas and solve tools and technology and what they've built using AI and then making it into a device or whatever that they need to make.
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  And there's some really, really cool things out there.
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  And there are some really, really horrible, evil things as well.
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  And my take on it, it's just my opinion.
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  I don't think it's going to go away.
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  so I might as well learn how to use it
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  and be in the front of the wave
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  and use it to do as much good as I can
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  within the parameters of what I enjoy
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  and my purpose
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  and what I can and would like to
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  actually get involved in
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  at least that's my kind of opinion
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  rather than burying my head in the sand
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  and ignoring it
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  or hoping it doesn't go away
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  or just talking shit about it
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  and just thinking
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  like you know just because I'm saying bad shit about it it's just going to disappear out of my
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  life I don't have to deal with it like no it's not going to go away you know if anything if I
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  just spent some time you know got over my own thing which is I don't want to learn it and I got
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  you know spent some time learned it and started to use it suddenly I now have you know a superpower
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  so I'm really glad that I've spent you know like a good part of this year really delving deep into
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  it because i mean i have a tech background but to be honest you don't need a tech background
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  you know and i think it's worth learning it's it's like doing the things that's difficult
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  you know and we we we want to run away from the stuff that's difficult so it's like oh this thing
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  is confusing i don't understand it guess what for the first time ever we have a thing that if we
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  don't understand we can just ask it and then it'll teach us and it's actually very good at that's one
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  things very good at doing what does that mean oh it explains you in a very simple way i don't
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  understand it explain it to a simple way and then it's like teaches you it's so good at doing that
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  so it's easier than ever you know like there's actually less um i wouldn't say resistance but
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  like it's easier for us to you know just use that to to learn how to use it um and you know it's up
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  to us what we want to do with it um so let me just read your question again and see if you know
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  the thing about the water yes like you know there is it does use water it does you know for cooling
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  and stuff like that yes but there are actually people working on technologies that can like
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  solve that as well you know so there are people working on that there's like very very intelligent
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  people working on some really complex problems using using these um yeah governments i mean
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  that's a whole other conversation that i want to go into but you know i think whether it's
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  governments or corporations or whoever they are you know if they're doing bad and if i don't agree
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  then you know what part can i play in in changing that you know so for me that's what transformation
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  was about you know like inner work yoga meditation I delved into that you know for like the last 20
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  years because I'm like okay I'm gonna have impacts in you know using these really powerful tools to
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  help people in these ways then for me AI is just another way it's a different one
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  when I post them people tell me yeah it tells you it's AI content makes you anxious
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  the anxious part is actually your stuff to work on we can talk about that if you want
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  using something that doesn't align with me.
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  Yeah, fair enough.
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  And you have the choice to not use it.
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  You have the choice to actually just ignore it
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  or push it away or like some people just,
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  I don't know, just talk bad things about it,
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  but it's not going to go away.
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  Like computers, you know,
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  like all the times I hear people all these years,
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  people say, oh, you know, computers don't like me.
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  That's their excuse for not sitting down and learning.
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  You know, and now more than ever,
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  free you know like unlimited information YouTube videos whatever like stuff out
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  there to learn I don't understand computers how do I learn like what do I
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  need to do okay so let me just go and do the thing so I think like that you know
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  I look at like what part is this my resistance and do I want to do something
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  about it you know is there something for me to work on here I guess that crosses
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  into you know like you know work how do I navigate through this unless just stop
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  using it altogether i'm just starting to make friends with technology
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  but it causes me anxiety when it's not aligning with me i think you know like the aligning part
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  that's up to you like to work out what aligns with you and you know like then i agree you know
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  like aligning yourself to what is important to you what what values are important to you
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  so of course if something doesn't align then don't align with that don't go and try and align with
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  that but also just to say like you know we can evolve our values but they can grow and change
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  you know just like we can grow and change you know like we're not a fixed you know we're not
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  like a rock that's just like fixed you know we can grow and evolve and change so kind of like that
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  you know, I'm open to changing, I'm open to growing, and I'm open to evolving, you know,
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  because life is ever evolving. That's the one constant in life, like it's ever changing,
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  right? So if I'm going to just be fixed in my ways, then I'm just going to stay fixed,
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  I'm going to have to resist a lot of like, life is constant change, I'm gonna have to resist
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  change a lot, you know, which is like a lot of hard work as well. So work out what aligns for
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  you. And then the anxiety part, it's like, what actually is the thing that's causing you an
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  is it that technology is scary you know so when you go into the thing it's confusing you don't
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  understand it and you click this something happens something got deleted shit what happened
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  okay so underneath that is i need to understand i don't understand this i don't know how the hell
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  it works what can i do for me to learn how to like how to understand what what it's doing how
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  it's working you know there's loads of free resources out there that you can go and spend
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  comes from me not feeling in control maybe because I don't understand and because I don't understand
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  I feel anxious and because I feel anxious I just think okay some part of me thinks let me just run
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  away from it hopefully it'll go away or hopefully it'll be okay or hopefully someone will just hand
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  it for me that's fine you know that's one way of living but it's going to give you a you know a
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  certain set of results you know or you can say actually I'm going to spend some time every day
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  or every time I hit a problem,
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  something is difficult or something doesn't work,
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  let me just ask this tool
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  or let me just go and search and find some videos
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  that can teach me this thing.
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  And start from the fundamentals,
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  from the most basic thing.
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  Like computer, what the hell is it?
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  How does it work?
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  Okay, you need to plug it in.
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  You need to turn up the switch.
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  You need to have a mouse, a keyboard.
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  What do those things do?
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  Why are they there?
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  You know, like just the basics.
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  and then slowly build up.
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  So I think a lot of times that's what it is.
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  It's like when we say,
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  oh, computers don't like me,
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  all that sort of stuff.
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  It's just like,
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  it's basically people saying,
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  I don't want to spend the time learning the thing
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  because I think it's too difficult.
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  So I don't want to do the difficult thing.
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  So I'll just stay here
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  and just complain about it.
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  And then make other people
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  who maybe have spent the time learning it,
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  make them bad about it as well.
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  It's just, we do that not just with technology.
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  We do that with other things as well.
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  I'm sure you've seen it in yoga as well.
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  not for me like i'm not flexible or those yoga people blah blah blah you know or you know change
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  the niche to anything basically you know whatever the thing is there's always going to be a bunch of
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  people that have something bad to say about it and it's basically they're either their insecurities
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  or their resistance to actually facing what feels difficult and life is full of difficulty
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  and it's about facing the difficulty
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  and when we face it, we learn, we grow, we evolve
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  and that's hard.
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  So most of the time we don't want to do that
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  but we do that in pretty much every facet of our lives
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  or sometimes you're very good in certain fields
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  but then other things we just go,
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  I hate that and I don't want to do it.
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  Fair enough, I understand.
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  But if you spend the time learning it,
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  we can learn.
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  We all can learn if we wanted to.
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  So that would be, okay, you ask for advice.
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  So my advice would be, I don't normally like to give advice, but you ask, so I'll give it.
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  My advice would be spend some time learning, you know, and taking the things that feel difficult, that feel confusing, that feel overwhelming, and actually face, you know, face it.
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  Like, okay, this is overwhelming.
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  Shit.
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  And get underneath it.
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  Like, what about this is overwhelming?
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  There's all of these words that I don't understand.
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  okay, what can I do?
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  Let's start with the first word.
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  That word, what does that word mean?
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  I keep hearing this word.
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  Okay, so let me just type it in one of these tools
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  and then say, okay, what does that word,
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  like describe that word?
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  And then it goes, oh, that word means this, this, this.
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  And you're like, okay, explain it in a simple way.
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  And it goes, oh, this way.
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  Oh, give me some images or give me a video that shows that,
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  you know, and like it just gives you stuff.
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  And next thing you know, you're like, okay,
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  one of those words in that sentence now makes sense okay now let me start with the next word
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  that's really like overwhelming me and then you you know learn about that so little by little it
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  starts to become easier and when you have some kind of understanding of it you know it makes it
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  easier there's a thing in tech which um i might actually make a video about this um on my channel
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  at some point um from my days in tech you know like i could see and most tech people would you
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  know could would tell you this but they will not tell you this it's just like i don't know i guess
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  lawyers doctors accountants like you know every field has that but in tech you know there's always
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  this thing where because people have this like oh my god this is too hard the tech industry would
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  just capitalize on that so they would build things that is actually now more than ever it's easier
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  than you know back then back then you actually had to write the code now you should get this
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  thing to write the code for you but because it's difficult people think it's difficult or it's hard
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  you know they would build things and charge a shitload of money for it and most of the time
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  like it doesn't actually cost that much you know or they're like make people like make the other
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  departments jump hoops i remember when i was in corporate because you know like we are the the
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  key holders for you know the technology and this area this thing that is like this black box how
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  does it work you know finance will do that in their area and you know the the lawyers the the
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  law department do that you know so everyone kind of has that and it's just yeah like okay expert
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  knowledge but we can learn we can learn the basics of it and have an understanding of it
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  so i think when it comes to tech for example whether it's ai is like normal tech just
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  you know you can have a more informed conversation so when you go and buy stuff and you spend money
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  on like technology or software you know you just have um you're more informed you know so you're
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  not just naively like just wasting money like burning money for no reason and there are people
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  out there that will just charge you ridiculous amounts of money for building something like
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  really stupid and simple you know because they know they can um so you're going to save yourself
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  a lot of money, a lot of headaches, and when you understand how it works, you know, like,
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  okay, that software is running my business or this part of my business.
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  It's running my customer relationship management software.
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  Okay, here's how it works.
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  Here's what it can do.
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  Here's what it can't do.
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  Okay, here's how it talks to my website or just roughly have an idea.
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  So that can really help.
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  So then you're going to feel less overwhelmed.
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  You're going to feel less anxious.
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  you're going to feel more confident about it
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  because you've spent some time learning
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  like what does that word mean, what does that mean, what does that mean
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  what's that concept, you know, and just learning
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  little by little, that would be my
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  recommendation, because it's not
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  going to go away, I don't think
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  but we can use
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  it, you know, in a way that
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  supports
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  life
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  our life, but also life
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  in general, and
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  enhance our life, you know
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  enhance the things that are important to us like connection our loved ones and experience it like
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  we're here to experience this life right and it's a tool that can help take care of the mundane
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  things so we can experience more of the the magic of life