Latest / Dear Chelsea / The Gut-Vagina Connection with Lo Bosworth
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine, Hi, Chelsea, Hi, Hi everybody. I just we're
- 0:06Speaker 1: in LA with the fires, and.
- 0:10Speaker 2: You flew back just in time for this. In fact,
- 0:12Speaker 2: I flew back just in time for the fires.
- 0:14Speaker 1: I was with my nieces all week in Whistler, and
- 0:16Speaker 1: I flew back to host the Critics' Choice Awards, which
- 0:18Speaker 1: are being postponed now due to the fires. And we
- 0:21Speaker 1: landed and she was like, did you see the fire
- 0:23Speaker 1: we flew through? And I was like, one of my
- 0:26Speaker 1: nieces and I'm like what, And then I had I
- 0:28Speaker 1: didn't have Wi Fi in the flights. I wasn't I
- 0:30Speaker 1: was reading and I saw and then I saw my
- 0:33Speaker 1: phone and I was like, oh my god. And so
- 0:36Speaker 1: I'm at a hotel like everyone else in Los Angeles and
- 0:41Speaker 1: Critics Choice Towards. I'm here post phoned obviously. January twenty sixth.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Okay, I am probably going to turn around and go
- 0:50Speaker 3: back to Whistler since this is a disaster, okay, and
- 0:53Speaker 3: there's really nothing for me to do here, are you guys?
- 0:56Speaker 1: We had to evacuate my street, but I don't know
- 0:58Speaker 1: what's going on on my street. The pictures in the
- 1:02Speaker 1: Palisades are so devastating.
- 1:04Speaker 2: You'll see one house that's burned, and then the one
- 1:07Speaker 2: next to it is fine, and then the one next
- 1:08Speaker 2: to that is burnt.
- 1:09Speaker 4: I mean, it's just like it's.
- 1:10Speaker 2: So random and devastating and all consuming and just really awful.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Wow, I mean yikes.
- 1:20Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's fires are just the worst thing to watch,
- 1:24Speaker 5: you know, like see and how they catch and how
- 1:27Speaker 5: they spread. Like the whole Palisades is just fucking destroyed.
- 1:33Speaker 2: I just got a text from my boss that his
- 1:35Speaker 2: house has gone like literally just right now.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Good God.
- 1:40Speaker 2: But he and his wife and baby got out yesterday.
- 1:44Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like you look for these silver linings.
- 1:48Speaker 2: It doesn't make it any less devastating, but there you
- 1:50Speaker 2: have it.
- 1:51Speaker 1: What's the silver lining? Oh that he's just.
- 1:53Speaker 4: They got out.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Yeah, where's the one?
- 1:55Speaker 4: I'd like to where can we just like find that?
- 1:57Speaker 5: Please?
- 1:58Speaker 1: Well, we have our guest today. We re recorded this
- 2:01Speaker 1: a while ago, so this episode is a lot about
- 2:04Speaker 1: vaginal wellness for all guess those of you who are
- 2:07Speaker 1: listening and who are not impacted by the fires and
- 2:10Speaker 1: who want to learn more about your Pikachu, here's an
- 2:13Speaker 1: episode for you. Please welcome Low Bosworth.
- 2:18Speaker 6: Hello, gorgeous gaggle of girls on a couch.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello Bosworth. Hello, Hi, how are you? I'm
- 2:26Speaker 1: ready to talk about vaginal wellness. I'm ready to talk
- 2:29Speaker 1: about female wellness, vaginal wellness, anal wellness. I mean, if
- 2:34Speaker 1: we have anything to cover on that, we want to
- 2:36Speaker 1: just be well. We want to be well. And we
- 2:39Speaker 1: have you here today to talk about all of the
- 2:41Speaker 1: amazing things that you've accomplished with your company.
- 2:44Speaker 6: Yes, thank you for having me. I don't know if
- 2:46Speaker 6: you remember, but I was on your show on E
- 2:50Speaker 6: a really long time ago once when I was on
- 2:53Speaker 6: the hills, and I was so scared to come on
- 2:55Speaker 6: your show because I was so intimidated.
- 2:58Speaker 1: How was it, How was the experience? Was I nice? Scary?
- 3:02Speaker 4: It was scariest?
- 3:02Speaker 1: Book was it? Was I nice to you?
- 3:05Speaker 6: You were very nice.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know why people are so intimidated by me.
- 3:09Speaker 1: I mean, I do know, but I didn't know for
- 3:12Speaker 1: so long what the problem was. I was like, God,
- 3:14Speaker 1: everyone would say that to me, like You're so scary,
- 3:16Speaker 1: You're so scary, and I'm like, I actually still don't
- 3:19Speaker 1: really quite get it. But that's for another time.
- 3:21Speaker 6: I guess you're a strong, funny woman. And I think
- 3:24Speaker 6: people don't want to be don't want them, don't want
- 3:28Speaker 6: you to like point out their obvious areas of opportunity.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Yes, nice, Yes, thank you. You know what, that was
- 3:34Speaker 1: probably the most eloquent way you could put it, So
- 3:36Speaker 1: thank you for saying it so I didn't have to
- 3:38Speaker 1: say it ineloquently. But good to know. And I accept this.
- 3:44Speaker 1: I accept this badge of whatever it is because I understand.
- 3:47Speaker 1: But I'm glad that I'm getting to see you again anyway.
- 3:50Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, had I interviewed you on
- 3:52Speaker 1: Chelsea lately? Because I had so many interviews in the
- 3:55Speaker 1: span of my career, with all of the talk shows
- 3:57Speaker 1: that I've done, that sometimes I meet people and I
- 3:59Speaker 1: can't tell, Like I had Christini. I had Christina Ricci
- 4:03Speaker 1: on the other week we had her on the podcast,
- 4:05Speaker 1: and I was looking at her sitting here, looking at
- 4:07Speaker 1: her face, going, I never forget a face, and I'm like,
- 4:11Speaker 1: I couldn't remember whether or not I had interviewed her,
- 4:13Speaker 1: and I was looking at her face and I'm like,
- 4:15Speaker 1: her face is a very unusual, you know, she has
- 4:17Speaker 1: a very unique face. And while I was looking at
- 4:20Speaker 1: I'm like, I know I haven't seen this face face
- 4:22Speaker 1: to face before, you know, And so I was like, oh,
- 4:25Speaker 1: and then she said no, I was never on your show.
- 4:27Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that much I know. So anyway, low Bosworth,
- 4:31Speaker 1: you obviously people would have become familiar with you a
- 4:34Speaker 1: long time ago from a show you were on called
- 4:36Speaker 1: The Hills, which was like probably the first reality show really.
- 4:40Speaker 6: Or Laguna Beach before that.
- 4:42Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was early Laguna Beach.
- 4:44Speaker 6: I don't know if you remember that, but that was
- 4:46Speaker 6: twenty years ago. We started were it debuted in two
- 4:50Speaker 6: thousand and four, which is when I graduated high school
- 4:52Speaker 6: and then started college. So yeah, a full twenty years
- 4:56Speaker 6: ago Laguna came on the air, and then The Hills
- 4:58Speaker 6: followed that. So so it's been a while.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Listen, you made a career out of being on a
- 5:05Speaker 1: reality show that was that wasn't a thing before. I mean,
- 5:08Speaker 1: it's a thing now, but you were able to parlay
- 5:10Speaker 1: that into something meaningful and great. So fucking good for you,
- 5:14Speaker 1: and congratulations.
- 5:15Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:16Speaker 6: I've been working on love Wellness for going on nine
- 5:19Speaker 6: years now, which is just blows my mind. I don't
- 5:22Speaker 6: think I've been able to commit that long to anything
- 5:24Speaker 6: in my life.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a long time.
- 5:26Speaker 6: I'm really passionate about women's wellness. And I started the
- 5:29Speaker 6: company out of, you know, really my own need for
- 5:32Speaker 6: better products in the healthcare space. And I really, to
- 5:37Speaker 6: be honest with you, was determined not to be a
- 5:41Speaker 6: reality television personality forever as my byline, and now I
- 5:45Speaker 6: realize it probably just will be anyway, so whatever, I've
- 5:49Speaker 6: kind of moved past that. But I think coming off
- 5:52Speaker 6: that show, I had so much trauma. And I'm sure
- 5:55Speaker 6: you talk to a lot of people who are on
- 5:56Speaker 6: reality that have such traumatic experience is on it, And
- 6:01Speaker 6: for a long time, in the early days of reality,
- 6:04Speaker 6: those stories were not really validated. They were pushed to
- 6:07Speaker 6: the side. It was like, well, you're famous, so like
- 6:09Speaker 6: shut up about your feelings. But now I think there's
- 6:13Speaker 6: a better understanding just how like manipulative and terrible those
- 6:19Speaker 6: shows can be, you know, in people's psyche. And I
- 6:22Speaker 6: started my business really as sort of a second chance
- 6:26Speaker 6: in life to be honest with you, Like I had
- 6:28Speaker 6: to get away from LA I moved to New York,
- 6:31Speaker 6: and I really I really started my life over again.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Wow.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Yeah, And I had read too that you used sort
- 6:36Speaker 2: of like the last bit of your earnings from the
- 6:38Speaker 2: show to develop this product line and start the business.
- 6:42Speaker 4: Right, that's so cool.
- 6:42Speaker 1: I just want to say that our business is now
- 6:45Speaker 1: worth I mean, you guys made it. I think I
- 6:46Speaker 1: said one hundred million dollars this year right where it's
- 6:49Speaker 1: valuated at one hundred million dollars.
- 6:52Speaker 6: It's valuated or even that, but I we can't talk.
- 6:57Speaker 6: We can't talk about our revenue yet for twenty two
- 7:00Speaker 6: twenty four. But we're doing very well.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I just wanted to say it's very successful.
- 7:05Speaker 1: So that's thing point we're trying to get across. Yeah,
- 7:07Speaker 1: so tell us, Okay, give us your backstory, like what happened,
- 7:10Speaker 1: what kind of like what was your issue that led
- 7:13Speaker 1: you to discover and launch this kind of brand.
- 7:16Speaker 6: So I was in a really terribly sad, emotionally abusive
- 7:23Speaker 6: romantic relationship, and in that relationship, I was very depressed
- 7:28Speaker 6: and very anxious, and I also had a whole host
- 7:31Speaker 6: of women's health issues, urinary tract infections, yeast infections, and
- 7:34Speaker 6: it was like chronic. I was just always sick. And
- 7:39Speaker 6: there was really a tipping point for me though, where
- 7:41Speaker 6: I was normal one day and then the next day,
- 7:43Speaker 6: I was just not I was like lay on the
- 7:45Speaker 6: floor depressed, like go home to my mommy for three
- 7:48Speaker 6: months depressed kind of a thing. And I was going
- 7:51Speaker 6: to the doctor over and over and over again and
- 7:54Speaker 6: trying to advocate for myself and just being told that,
- 7:57Speaker 6: you know, here's some prozac, you need to exercise more,
- 8:01Speaker 6: drink more water, whatever, the typical medical gas lighting that
- 8:04Speaker 6: I think a lot of women experience and have historically
- 8:07Speaker 6: experienced in this country for a very long time. It
- 8:10Speaker 6: wasn't until I was eighteen months into this health journey
- 8:15Speaker 6: of trying to understand why I was okay one day
- 8:17Speaker 6: and then so not okay kind of the overnight that
- 8:21Speaker 6: my GP finally agreed to just to a blood panel
- 8:26Speaker 6: and test my vitamin levels, like the most basic blood
- 8:28Speaker 6: test you can do, and it came back as like deficient, deficient, deficient, deficient.
- 8:32Speaker 6: It was overwhelming, but it was my very first data
- 8:35Speaker 6: point that there was something physiologically wrong with me, and
- 8:38Speaker 6: I wasn't making it up because I was being made
- 8:41Speaker 6: to feel that I was just making all of this
- 8:43Speaker 6: stuff up. And so with that first data point that
- 8:46Speaker 6: I was dealing with these vitamin deficiencies, I actually had
- 8:49Speaker 6: some information to go on, right, and then I kind
- 8:52Speaker 6: of took that information to better doctors that were approaching
- 8:55Speaker 6: healthcare from a more holistic point of view, which is
- 8:59Speaker 6: I think because coming more popular in our health care
- 9:03Speaker 6: system here, but you still have a lot of doctors
- 9:05Speaker 6: very focused on their primary area that they focus on.
- 9:09Speaker 6: And so I was looking for a gynecologist to say
- 9:13Speaker 6: that could help me connect the dots better between vaginal
- 9:16Speaker 6: health issues and gut health issues or the brain stuff
- 9:19Speaker 6: that I was experiencing, and finally got a healthcare team
- 9:22Speaker 6: in place that said, you know, I think that actually
- 9:25Speaker 6: all of these things are connected. I think that you
- 9:27Speaker 6: have a gut health issue because you are the antibiotic generation.
- 9:31Speaker 6: I was born in nineteen eighty six. For every little thing,
- 9:33Speaker 6: we took an antibiotics, antibiotics all the time.
- 9:37Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:37Speaker 6: We were raised on goldfish crackers from Costco, Like I
- 9:40Speaker 6: love a goldfish cracker, and we have messed up gut
- 9:44Speaker 6: microbiomes and as a result, we have vitamin deficiencies, we
- 9:50Speaker 6: have anxiety and depression because of leaky gut and the
- 9:54Speaker 6: connection between the gut and the brain and that blood
- 9:57Speaker 6: brain barrier. And then from the gut to the vagina.
- 10:01Speaker 6: We have gout dys biosis that results in vaginal health issues.
- 10:05Speaker 6: Because the gut microbiome and the vaginal microbiome talk to
- 10:09Speaker 6: each other, it's called quorum sensing. The gut bacteria literally
- 10:14Speaker 6: tell your vagina bacteria, hey, like, we're in good health here,
- 10:17Speaker 6: you should be in good health down there, or the inverse,
- 10:20Speaker 6: which is crazy. And so I finally started to understand
- 10:23Speaker 6: what was going on in my body. But this was
- 10:26Speaker 6: like twenty fifteen. There was still a lot of emerging
- 10:28Speaker 6: research on just the gut microbiome coming out, very little
- 10:32Speaker 6: on the vaginal microbiome. That took kind of like the
- 10:35Speaker 6: course of my business up until this point to get
- 10:38Speaker 6: better understanding and research on women's microbiomes, but started to
- 10:42Speaker 6: develop products based off of the holistic recommendations of some
- 10:46Speaker 6: excellent doctors that were as simple as take a probiotic,
- 10:50Speaker 6: use an intimate cleanser without fragrance. And it was these
- 10:53Speaker 6: simple solutions that actually really made such a pivotal change
- 10:57Speaker 6: in my health and allowed me to get better. And
- 11:00Speaker 6: I decided I'm going to launch a business with a
- 11:02Speaker 6: focus on these white space innovation types of products for
- 11:06Speaker 6: women that really can fundamentally change the game for how
- 11:09Speaker 6: we take care of our bodies at an accessible price
- 11:13Speaker 6: point in everyday types of stores. Right, And it was
- 11:17Speaker 6: twenty sixteen when I launched the company. It was right
- 11:19Speaker 6: after the presidential election in twenty sixteen. And yeah, here.
- 11:24Speaker 2: We are eight years later, many years later, in an
- 11:30Speaker 2: interestingly similar place. I am curious about when you talk
- 11:33Speaker 2: about leaky gut. So obviously you change the items that
- 11:36Speaker 2: you were taking, the probiotics and that sort of thing.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Did you do any sort of protocols to address leaky
- 11:41Speaker 2: gut or anything like that?
- 11:43Speaker 6: Yeah, So, you know, when I was kind of initially
- 11:46Speaker 6: going through this discovery, my doctors thought, well, maybe you
- 11:50Speaker 6: have some food intolerances things like that, and I certainly do.
- 11:55Speaker 6: But I'm also a human and still sometimes eat through
- 11:58Speaker 6: those things anyway. And the only way to really find
- 12:02Speaker 6: out if you have a food allergy or an intolerance
- 12:05Speaker 6: is to do a diet where you eliminate that thing
- 12:09Speaker 6: from your diet for a significant period of time. And
- 12:12Speaker 6: I did that with gluten. And I was pretty surprised
- 12:16Speaker 6: when I reintroduced gluten how how negatively affected I was,
- 12:21Speaker 6: because the reality is, if you're eating something that you
- 12:24Speaker 6: have an intolerance to every single day over time, your
- 12:27Speaker 6: reaction to it is not going to be very big.
- 12:31Speaker 6: It's going to be kind of consistent. You kind of
- 12:33Speaker 6: get to that like baseline kind of reaction. It's brain fog,
- 12:38Speaker 6: it's bloating, whatever. But when I eliminated gluten from my
- 12:41Speaker 6: diet and then reintroduced it, I like got vertigo, I
- 12:46Speaker 6: got like horribly sick. I was like, oh my gosh,
- 12:49Speaker 6: I really have a gluten problem. But yeah, elimination diets
- 12:52Speaker 6: are really kind of the gold standard for understanding if
- 12:54Speaker 6: you have some kind of foodish How.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Long do you think it takes, like when you eliminate
- 12:58Speaker 1: something like gluten, for you to actually feel the results
- 13:01Speaker 1: of that, the impact.
- 13:02Speaker 6: That it has on your body, the positive benefits. Yeah,
- 13:07Speaker 6: I think within a week you probably start to feel
- 13:10Speaker 6: the positive benefits of it. If you have a food
- 13:13Speaker 6: intolerance to that thing. Do I think you get max
- 13:17Speaker 6: benefits in a month? Maybe probably longer than that. I
- 13:21Speaker 6: think if you've been eating something you have an intolerance
- 13:24Speaker 6: to your entire life, it's going to take a while
- 13:26Speaker 6: for your body to heal from all of that inflammation.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Because I just feel like, is it everyone intolerant of
- 13:32Speaker 1: I mean not intolerant, but kind of allergic gluten. Well,
- 13:35Speaker 1: because we put of all the shit we put it
- 13:37Speaker 1: in and put in this. When I eat bread in
- 13:39Speaker 1: other countries, I.
- 13:39Speaker 4: Don't have the specifically in the US.
- 13:41Speaker 1: I think you're right, whose body that's along with that?
- 13:44Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, what we use in the US
- 13:47Speaker 2: has about like seven or eight times the gluten of
- 13:49Speaker 2: the wheat that we evolved eating over ten thousand years,
- 13:53Speaker 2: So our body is, oh, really it does. It was
- 13:55Speaker 2: It's usually a GMO, and it was made to help
- 13:59Speaker 2: feed the world.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Like the scientists who created it was like, this is amazing.
- 14:02Speaker 2: It's gonna help feed all these poor serving kids in
- 14:04Speaker 2: these countries, and we're eating it here in the US.
- 14:07Speaker 2: And that's why you go to like Italy or whatever.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Like I don't have any reaction to gluten in Italy
- 14:11Speaker 2: or France or any.
- 14:12Speaker 4: Of those places.
- 14:13Speaker 2: But here it's like I can eat Italian flower that
- 14:16Speaker 2: I'm making here, you know, pasta or bread or whatever.
- 14:19Speaker 4: I'm fine.
- 14:20Speaker 2: The second I eat something that's like US bread flour,
- 14:23Speaker 2: it's it's over for me.
- 14:24Speaker 4: In about twenty minutes.
- 14:25Speaker 6: Speak agriculture for you, Yeah.
- 14:27Speaker 1: We're agrarians over here, Low, we're agrarians. I'm a government official, Yeah,
- 14:32Speaker 1: for the agriculture Agricultural Department. Can you imagine so one
- 14:36Speaker 1: said you have to get up and speak about that
- 14:38Speaker 1: for an hour, I'd be like, you better give me
- 14:39Speaker 1: a long hit stat so okay, and so then launching that,
- 14:44Speaker 1: because I've tried. I've been in you know where you've
- 14:46Speaker 1: tried to launch a business, and I just it is
- 14:49Speaker 1: so fucking arduous to get something off the ground that
- 14:52Speaker 1: anyone who's been able to do it successfully. I'm just
- 14:55Speaker 1: in like awe.
- 14:56Speaker 6: Of you know, I'm pretty relentless.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Yeah, you sound like you really have your shit together.
- 15:02Speaker 6: I really love the subject matter like I love biology,
- 15:06Speaker 6: I love the human body. I am just fascinated by it.
- 15:10Speaker 6: And I think if you get into any business and
- 15:13Speaker 6: you really want to be in it for the long haul,
- 15:15Speaker 6: you have to really love what you're doing. And I
- 15:19Speaker 6: actually gave up the CEO role in my business last
- 15:23Speaker 6: March or March of twenty twenty three so that I
- 15:27Speaker 6: could focus on innovation, regulatory marketing, the stuff that I'm
- 15:32Speaker 6: really really passionate about, because, to be honest with you,
- 15:35Speaker 6: like the CEO job is a tough job. I was
- 15:39Speaker 6: a CEO for the first seven years of my business
- 15:42Speaker 6: and was able to successfully grow and guide that business
- 15:45Speaker 6: as a first time founder and CEO to a you know,
- 15:48Speaker 6: pretty significant size. I'm so proud of my accomplishment. But
- 15:52Speaker 6: to really scale the business to be like a major
- 15:55Speaker 6: player in Walmart and in Target, which are our retail partner,
- 16:00Speaker 6: you have to have done that before and with success.
- 16:03Speaker 6: It's really hard to walk into the room at Walmart,
- 16:06Speaker 6: never having ever been there before and say like, trust
- 16:10Speaker 6: me and I can deliver products on time, and like
- 16:13Speaker 6: I know about all the margins and you know all
- 16:15Speaker 6: the coupons and stuff you guys want to do No. No,
- 16:19Speaker 6: Like being an owner or an operator of consumer brand
- 16:22Speaker 6: means that you really have to have done it before,
- 16:25Speaker 6: or you have to be willing to bring on a
- 16:28Speaker 6: team that has done it before that can help you.
- 16:31Speaker 6: And so that's where I'm really at now in terms
- 16:35Speaker 6: of kind of my journey with the business. I don't
- 16:37Speaker 6: have to do one on ones anymore, thank god, but
- 16:41Speaker 6: I'm still really focused on all the product innovation and
- 16:44Speaker 6: really a lot of regulatory work. We sit in a
- 16:46Speaker 6: very interesting category in supplements and cosmetics that's not actually
- 16:51Speaker 6: regulated by the FDA in terms of like ingredients or safety,
- 16:56Speaker 6: really just in terms of claims. And there's like a
- 16:59Speaker 6: big consumer misconception that the FDA is all over these
- 17:02Speaker 6: products in terms of like safety and stuff, but they're not,
- 17:06Speaker 6: and it's really on brands to do the self regulation.
- 17:10Speaker 6: So that's one of my kind of missions is to
- 17:13Speaker 6: make really clean, you know, efficacious products for women in
- 17:18Speaker 6: a category of a lot of frankly just like bullshit,
- 17:23Speaker 6: because a lot of brands will just sell you a
- 17:25Speaker 6: gummy vitamin and say it works it's going to like
- 17:27Speaker 6: solve all your problems when they won't.
- 17:29Speaker 1: And how are you, as a consumer supposed to know
- 17:31Speaker 1: which brands are full of shit and which brands aren't.
- 17:33Speaker 6: It's so hard, It's it's truly so hard.
- 17:36Speaker 1: It's like I'm not reading any of these fucking labels,
- 17:38Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I wouldn't even know
- 17:40Speaker 1: what to be looking for.
- 17:41Speaker 6: I just do so much challenge. Yeah, you know, a
- 17:45Speaker 6: lot of brands now tout like, oh, like clinically studied ingredients,
- 17:48Speaker 6: but like they don't actually have necessarily like the clinically
- 17:52Speaker 6: proven amount of that ingredient.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Air product or the formulation that works best, you know,
- 17:57Speaker 2: even like co Q ten is something I started taking recently,
- 18:00Speaker 2: and there's like five different kinds and like one is
- 18:02Speaker 2: very accessible by your body, and like the rest are not.
- 18:04Speaker 4: You know, you have to take way more. And it's
- 18:06Speaker 4: sort of like on a basis.
- 18:08Speaker 6: I think, you know, I want to believe that most
- 18:11Speaker 6: brands are trying to do right by the consumer. What
- 18:15Speaker 6: I will say is that.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Well, don't assume that because they're not. I mean, I
- 18:20Speaker 1: know that's not true.
- 18:21Speaker 6: I know, but in this category, like, I want to
- 18:23Speaker 6: believe that right. I want to believe that if a
- 18:27Speaker 6: woman starts a business for women's health in her heart,
- 18:32Speaker 6: she has good intentions in mind for her customer base. Yes,
- 18:36Speaker 6: I don't think that that is always the case, and
- 18:39Speaker 6: I can think of a few examples where that's specifically
- 18:42Speaker 6: not the case. But I have to to just to
- 18:46Speaker 6: be able to like get up and operate every single
- 18:48Speaker 6: day and live in the earth that we're living in
- 18:51Speaker 6: and have some hope about the innate goodness in people, you.
- 18:55Speaker 7: Know what I mean.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called love Wellness dot Com for people who
- 18:58Speaker 1: want to go and order stuff from her company because
- 19:01Speaker 1: I like the idea of having your own health issues
- 19:04Speaker 1: and then finding a solution, which is the impetus for
- 19:07Speaker 1: starting a company. I think that's a very natural, kind
- 19:10Speaker 1: of like linear thing to do. And I think you're
- 19:13Speaker 1: right about female founders. I mean, I think for the
- 19:16Speaker 1: most part, you know women's it's like it's we we're
- 19:19Speaker 1: not handed anything. You have to actually, no, actively go
- 19:22Speaker 1: and work probably twice as hard as a man to
- 19:25Speaker 1: start a company to get to.
- 19:26Speaker 6: Cardi B said ten times is hard the other day,
- 19:28Speaker 6: and I thought, yes, Cardi B.
- 19:30Speaker 1: She's always been better at math than I have. So
- 19:32Speaker 1: we'll take her. I'll take whatever she says. Yeah. So
- 19:36Speaker 1: what's happening with your personal life? You're not married, right?
- 19:39Speaker 6: I have a fabulous partner, he's great, we live together rightly. Love.
- 19:46Speaker 1: I love that you don't have kids.
- 19:48Speaker 6: No, no, no, no.
- 19:49Speaker 1: I can tell by the look on someone's face if
- 19:51Speaker 1: they have children.
- 19:52Speaker 6: I look so rested to you.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Don is glowing.
- 19:56Speaker 6: I'm kidding. No, we would love to have children, but
- 20:00Speaker 6: not not yet. What I want to go back to,
- 20:03Speaker 6: well maybe soon but maybe.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well that's obviously a pregnancy announcement. It's not
- 20:10Speaker 1: it's absolutely not leaky gut exactly. I hear a lot
- 20:13Speaker 1: about leaky gut, but like what physicality does that take
- 20:16Speaker 1: on in your body? Like what happens?
- 20:19Speaker 4: I might I'll probably let Low take this, but it's
- 20:21Speaker 4: a lot of inflammation and other stuff.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Right, is something actually leaking from your gut?
- 20:25Speaker 6: Yeah, So like think of it like when you eat
- 20:28Speaker 6: food and imagine if in that food there was like
- 20:31Speaker 6: some like weird bacteria or something like let's say you
- 20:34Speaker 6: eat fish. Okay, I'm giving you like a very like
- 20:36Speaker 6: basic example. Let's say that there's some like weird bacteria
- 20:40Speaker 6: in the fish that you eat, and because you keep
- 20:42Speaker 6: eating foods that are inflammatory to your body, your gut
- 20:46Speaker 6: wall lining may have like tiny little gaps in it, right,
- 20:51Speaker 6: and that like weird bad thing may be able to
- 20:53Speaker 6: get through that gap, get into your blood stream and
- 20:56Speaker 6: then go up to your brain and if it's small enough,
- 20:58Speaker 6: penetrate the blood brain barrier and theoretically affect your brain health.
- 21:04Speaker 6: And so that's like at the macro level the concept
- 21:07Speaker 6: of leaky gut.
- 21:09Speaker 1: You should be on Gray's anatomy. Low, she's very well, seriously,
- 21:14Speaker 1: I mean that's actually great. I've been wondering what leaky
- 21:16Speaker 1: gut is for a long time. By the way it sounds,
- 21:18Speaker 1: I assumed it had something to do with your asshole,
- 21:20Speaker 1: like that your asshole, that disaster. You know, it turns
- 21:25Speaker 1: into a ship store.
- 21:26Speaker 6: I mean, it could cause you to have like a
- 21:28Speaker 6: lot of diarrhea and stomach upset if you have leaky gut,
- 21:31Speaker 6: to be honest with you, because your probably your stomach
- 21:33Speaker 6: is probably so inflame from all the weird stuff that
- 21:35Speaker 6: your body like doesn't agree with or you're putting in
- 21:38Speaker 6: all so.
- 21:38Speaker 1: But it's just there's a lot of like vaginal health
- 21:41Speaker 1: talk that we're having these days. When you know, you'd
- 21:44Speaker 1: never think about how healthy your vagina is unless there's
- 21:47Speaker 1: something wrong, unless there's an issue. It's not like you're like, oh.
- 21:50Speaker 6: Well, I always like to tell the team. It's like
- 21:52Speaker 6: when you don't notice anything, like, that's the ideal state, right, right,
- 21:57Speaker 6: It's like when you don't know what's what's anything amiss,
- 22:00Speaker 6: that's like where you want to be. That's the healthy state.
- 22:03Speaker 6: What I think is cool about the vagina is that
- 22:06Speaker 6: it's actually an immunity organ and very few people know
- 22:09Speaker 6: that or think about it that way, but it is right,
- 22:13Speaker 6: there's a lot of talk about vaginal pH levels. That's
- 22:16Speaker 6: like very like you know that terminology is used a lot. Now.
- 22:20Speaker 6: Vaginal pH is acidic because it protects you from overgrowth
- 22:24Speaker 6: of bad bacteria or bad yeast or pathogens things like that,
- 22:28Speaker 6: because like, guess what the vagina like is the entrance
- 22:31Speaker 6: up into your uterus, right, Like it's your fertility kingdom
- 22:34Speaker 6: up in there, and so your vagina is protecting you
- 22:38Speaker 6: from bad things that come and invade. But the vagina
- 22:42Speaker 6: is very smart. The vagina will attack things that are
- 22:45Speaker 6: not self, right, like you know, a bad bacteria or
- 22:49Speaker 6: you know a bad pathogen that like doesn't come from you,
- 22:52Speaker 6: But it will not attack sperm. It knows that sperm
- 22:56Speaker 6: is not self, but it knows that it's not bad.
- 22:59Speaker 4: Is it interesting?
- 23:00Speaker 6: It's like an organ, but it's a brain. Honestly, she's smart.
- 23:05Speaker 1: She is. She sounds as smart as an elephant. I mean,
- 23:08Speaker 1: how do you know who's welcome and who's not.
- 23:10Speaker 6: She's smart.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Although, then if the vagina were that smart, it should
- 23:13Speaker 1: know that when they when someone's in danger and the
- 23:15Speaker 1: sperm is coming to not let that sperm in. If
- 23:17Speaker 1: it were really smart, it would fend off like rapists
- 23:20Speaker 1: and you know, all the bad guys sperm.
- 23:23Speaker 6: I wouldn't that be just yeah, that would do a
- 23:26Speaker 6: dreamy a dreamy scenario.
- 23:28Speaker 2: I think there's some Republican senators who do think that
- 23:30Speaker 2: that happens, which is a problem.
- 23:31Speaker 1: But yeah, well, Vagina's only going to get smarter as
- 23:36Speaker 1: we move on. Guys, it's evolution. People are getting smarter,
- 23:39Speaker 1: not dumber, although some people are really stupid. Yeah, okay,
- 23:43Speaker 1: we're going to take a break on that note and
- 23:46Speaker 1: get rid of all the stupid people and we'll be
- 23:48Speaker 1: right back and we're back with less stupid people and
- 23:55Speaker 1: with low bosworth. Okay, we are. We're going to take
- 23:58Speaker 1: some questions and some callers lower. Are you ready for
- 24:00Speaker 1: some action?
- 24:01Speaker 6: I'm ready, I'm ready. Yes, I'm excited.
- 24:04Speaker 2: Well, our first question, this one's just an email, so
- 24:07Speaker 2: she won't be joining us. But this question comes from Annie.
- 24:10Speaker 2: Annie says, Dear Chelsea. I've been a fan and listener
- 24:13Speaker 2: from the start. I'm a psychologist who primarily administers intellectual
- 24:17Speaker 2: and personality assessments.
- 24:19Speaker 4: A few years ago.
- 24:20Speaker 2: I was unfortunately in an abusive relationship and experienced a
- 24:23Speaker 2: traumatic brain injury, also known as a TBI. As a
- 24:27Speaker 2: result of that injury, I have a diagnosis of aphasia.
- 24:30Speaker 2: In my case, it's a wall between my formerly large
- 24:33Speaker 2: vocabulary similar to yours, and my ability to access it
- 24:37Speaker 2: as necessary during quick communication. My question is, can you
- 24:41Speaker 2: give me some of the tips you discuss on the
- 24:42Speaker 2: podcast that you use to continually increase your vocabulary? Also
- 24:46Speaker 2: any advice on how to manage the anxiety that comes
- 24:49Speaker 2: at work and increases the severity of my ability to
- 24:52Speaker 2: access my vocabulary forever one of your biggest fans and supporters, Annie.
- 24:57Speaker 1: First of all, I want to say one thing. Accessing
- 24:59Speaker 1: your vocabulary and having a phasia, you have to understand
- 25:04Speaker 1: that it's okay not to have to use sophisticated words
- 25:07Speaker 1: all the time. It's okay to communicate like your main
- 25:10Speaker 1: goal is to relay something a thought or a message
- 25:12Speaker 1: or whatever. So just do that in the simplest way
- 25:15Speaker 1: without putting pressure on yourself to remember the bigger words
- 25:18Speaker 1: to do that that's not necessary right now in the meantime,
- 25:22Speaker 1: what you can do, and what I always do is
- 25:24Speaker 1: I always have vocab words. I have word of the
- 25:27Speaker 1: day dictionary, you know things I get a million words
- 25:29Speaker 1: of the day, I always print them out, have them laminated.
- 25:33Speaker 1: I collect them, like if I there's twenty new words,
- 25:35Speaker 1: I put them out and put them in a laminated
- 25:37Speaker 1: sheet and put them in my closet or put them
- 25:39Speaker 1: on your fridge, so that you're seeing them every single day.
- 25:41Speaker 1: And I guarantee you you will start to imprint new
- 25:44Speaker 1: words into your vocabulary, and then you're gonna have a
- 25:46Speaker 1: whole new slew of words. And some of those words
- 25:48Speaker 1: that you already know will be repeated, but you're cementing
- 25:51Speaker 1: them in your brain in a visual way, and that
- 25:53Speaker 1: lends itself to memorizing things more easily, even if you
- 25:56Speaker 1: are dealing with aphasia.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Yeah and lo, I know you had a traumatic brain
- 26:00Speaker 2: injury a few years ago.
- 26:02Speaker 6: Is this question calus some tailor for me?
- 26:04Speaker 1: Yes, well, we do do that.
- 26:07Speaker 6: I know you're like an English teacher, like posting up
- 26:10Speaker 6: your words.
- 26:11Speaker 1: I love it. It's all I've got.
- 26:13Speaker 6: I had a traumatic brain injury in twenty nineteen. I
- 26:16Speaker 6: was at a restaurant in Manhattan and one of the
- 26:19Speaker 6: swinging kitchen doors came off its hinge and fell onto
- 26:21Speaker 6: my head. And it was pretty brutal, and I dealt
- 26:26Speaker 6: with some loss of vocabulary for a period of time.
- 26:30Speaker 6: I think that I have mostly recovered, but sometimes it
- 26:33Speaker 6: still happens to me where I can't come up with
- 26:36Speaker 6: the word and it's it's really really tough. What I
- 26:40Speaker 6: would say is that brain exercises really helped me. Whether
- 26:44Speaker 6: it's brain games, it could be as simple as dedicating
- 26:48Speaker 6: yourself to twenty minutes of reading a book every single night,
- 26:53Speaker 6: just to kind of activate your brain again to be
- 26:55Speaker 6: reading and understanding just language in general. But I would
- 27:00Speaker 6: give yourself just as much physical rest as you can
- 27:05Speaker 6: in the time that you can right really focus on sleep.
- 27:09Speaker 6: We know that as women, we need more sleep than men.
- 27:13Speaker 6: And one of the things that my doctors recommended for
- 27:15Speaker 6: me while I was going through my TBI recovery was
- 27:19Speaker 6: to really avoid inflam foods because inflammatory foods can cause
- 27:24Speaker 6: even more brain fog, and I think it can probably
- 27:28Speaker 6: make the aphasia that she's talking about even worse. I
- 27:32Speaker 6: notice for myself when I eat a bunch of gluten,
- 27:35Speaker 6: I really struggle with my vocabulary, really struggle to find
- 27:39Speaker 6: the words that I'm looking for. And when I eat
- 27:41Speaker 6: a cleaner diet that doesn't seem to be as big
- 27:43Speaker 6: of a deal for me. I'm also going to go
- 27:46Speaker 6: down the peptides Injectavle's rabbit hole right now into something
- 27:52Speaker 6: called BP seven one five seven. I take that in
- 27:56Speaker 6: PC BPC BPC, thank you BP you see one five
- 28:01Speaker 6: seven right? Yeah, And this has actually started to be
- 28:05Speaker 6: recommended for people who have brain issues. It is a
- 28:10Speaker 6: gastric acid. I think that supposedly can help with like
- 28:15Speaker 6: brain lesions and things like that, So I would look
- 28:18Speaker 6: into that. It's supposed to be like a crazy like
- 28:21Speaker 6: healer type of peptide. It is on I think the
- 28:26Speaker 6: list of Worldwide Band substances for doping. So I hope
- 28:31Speaker 6: that you're not.
- 28:32Speaker 1: A can't be a professional athlete and take it, but
- 28:34Speaker 1: it can't be a professional athlete and take it, but
- 28:37Speaker 1: the general.
- 28:37Speaker 6: Population can take it and it may.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Help, and yeah, it may help. And and also that also
- 28:43Speaker 1: helps with like physical recovery and injuries, Like I injected
- 28:47Speaker 1: into my knee area all the time, especially when I'm skiing,
- 28:50Speaker 1: because it helps like kind of heal whatever your issues are.
- 28:55Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to say what Logs touched
- 28:57Speaker 1: upon though, is that your diet at the correlation between
- 29:00Speaker 1: you put in your body and your mental alacrity is
- 29:03Speaker 1: scientifically proven. So like I know, if I'm about to
- 29:07Speaker 1: do some event, like if I'm gonna do this podcast,
- 29:10Speaker 1: I don't eat before I do that because my mind
- 29:13Speaker 1: isn't as sharp. Your mind will always be sharp. When
- 29:15Speaker 1: you're a slightly hungry, it'll be sharper. You know, when
- 29:18Speaker 1: you're full and you feel tired and you're not digesting things, well,
- 29:21Speaker 1: that's when you start to get lazy and you feel
- 29:23Speaker 1: less kind of vibrant. So just be mindful of that.
- 29:26Speaker 1: And you know, when you eat, don't overeat because that
- 29:29Speaker 1: puts you into like then you spike your blood sugar
- 29:32Speaker 1: and then you go high and then you crash. So
- 29:34Speaker 1: you have to be really mindful of your diet, especially
- 29:36Speaker 1: when you're talking about these kinds of issues. It's like
- 29:38Speaker 1: we're doctor Phil and doctor Great.
- 29:41Speaker 8: Great.
- 29:42Speaker 1: I feel like where you have like a doctor, this
- 29:44Speaker 1: is like two doctors. We're like two really medically advanced laymen.
- 29:48Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, yes, BBC one.
- 29:52Speaker 2: Okay, So our next question comes from Cynthia, and she
- 29:55Speaker 2: will be joining us on the phone here in a moment.
- 29:58Speaker 2: She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a thirty nine year old
- 30:01Speaker 2: woman living in Brooklyn, New York. With my beautiful girlfriend
- 30:03Speaker 2: of four years now, my fiance. I have a great job.
- 30:07Speaker 2: I love my fiancee to pieces. I'm not the most
- 30:09Speaker 2: social person and I don't have many friends, if any
- 30:11Speaker 2: at all. I consider myself an intelligent person, and I've
- 30:15Speaker 2: been in therapy for many years on and off to
- 30:17Speaker 2: help me cope with childhood trauma. I think the root
- 30:19Speaker 2: of my depression, or maybe the consequence of it, is
- 30:22Speaker 2: I have zero motivation. I don't have the willpower to exercise.
- 30:26Speaker 2: I have a pretty shitty diet, and I basically just
- 30:28Speaker 2: work to come home to do the same cycle the
- 30:30Speaker 2: next day. I know that diet and exercise is a
- 30:33Speaker 2: huge factor for bettering myself mentally and physically, but I
- 30:36Speaker 2: just can't seem to find the energy or motivation to
- 30:38Speaker 2: get up and do all the things I probably should
- 30:40Speaker 2: to make myself feel better. I used to be on
- 30:42Speaker 2: antidepressants and anti anxiety meds, but stopped them on my
- 30:46Speaker 2: doctor's advice, because it withered my sex drive down to nothing.
- 30:49Speaker 2: I've been off my meds for a couple months now,
- 30:51Speaker 2: and I've been feeling the ups and downs of that.
- 30:53Speaker 2: I'm consumed with shame and guilt at the fact that
- 30:56Speaker 2: I know exactly what I have to do, but the
- 30:58Speaker 2: fuck it in my brain is much stronger than any
- 31:00Speaker 2: of those thoughts. I've talked to a doctor and they
- 31:02Speaker 2: tell me I just need to push myself. But how
- 31:05Speaker 2: I've had times in my life where I did have motivation,
- 31:07Speaker 2: like in my twenties, and I'd get up an exercise
- 31:09Speaker 2: and eat a healthier diet. But I feel like that
- 31:12Speaker 2: part of me is just not alive anymore. My fiance
- 31:14Speaker 2: also struggles with the same lack of motivation I do,
- 31:17Speaker 2: so it seems like we enable each other. How can
- 31:19Speaker 2: I spark some much needed motivation. I'm tired of being tired. Cynthia.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Hi Cynthia, Hlsea Carin Hi.
- 31:28Speaker 6: Hi.
- 31:28Speaker 1: This is our special guest, Low Bosworth. She's here today.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Hi trys Cynthia.
- 31:34Speaker 6: Who's going to go first?
- 31:35Speaker 1: Because I have an ada, I think you should go first.
- 31:37Speaker 6: Okay, Cynthia. Have you ever tried meditation because it because
- 31:42Speaker 6: it requires no physical exercise and no dieting. I haven't no,
- 31:48Speaker 6: So meditation is really cool because it creates new neural
- 31:54Speaker 6: pathways in the brain. And creating new neural pathways in
- 32:00Speaker 6: the brain allows you to create new habits, new hobbies,
- 32:05Speaker 6: new interests, because I think what you may be experiencing
- 32:10Speaker 6: is something that a lot of us are experiencing right now,
- 32:14Speaker 6: which is kind of this like freeze mode in reaction
- 32:18Speaker 6: to potentially the stress of the times we're living in
- 32:23Speaker 6: or whatever.
- 32:23Speaker 1: It may be.
- 32:24Speaker 6: Right, I think that there's not a ton of hope
- 32:27Speaker 6: right now, and so I think one of the ways
- 32:30Speaker 6: to think about from an actual like neurochemical neuroplasticity point
- 32:36Speaker 6: of view is how can I create neural pathways to
- 32:40Speaker 6: change how my brain is behaving, and then I can
- 32:44Speaker 6: change how my body is behaving, right, my behavior can follow.
- 32:49Speaker 6: And so I've been doing something called transcendental meditation off
- 32:53Speaker 6: and on for almost ten years, and it's a tool
- 32:55Speaker 6: in my toolbox that I use when I'm feeling really
- 32:59Speaker 6: anxious or really depressed. And after like five or six
- 33:03Speaker 6: days between transcendental meditation, I wake up and I actually
- 33:07Speaker 6: feel different and I'm actually inspired to like go do
- 33:11Speaker 6: things differently in my day. So that would be my
- 33:15Speaker 6: immediate go to suggestion. I think outside of just acknowledging
- 33:20Speaker 6: that we live in some really weird times, and I
- 33:22Speaker 6: think what you are describing is to a certain degree
- 33:25Speaker 6: the human condition and we all feel this way from
- 33:28Speaker 6: time to time.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that is good advice, and I always endorse
- 33:35Speaker 1: a spouse meditation. But you and your partner are in
- 33:38Speaker 1: a like a funk together, so out of love, Like,
- 33:42Speaker 1: if you can't do it for yourself, then you need
- 33:46Speaker 1: to be doing it for her. You guys have to
- 33:48Speaker 1: get on a different fucking program and you have to
- 33:50Speaker 1: write down what your goals are. I want you guys
- 33:53Speaker 1: to sit down together tonight and write down what you
- 33:56Speaker 1: want to be accomplishing in a month. Exercise whyle and
- 34:00Speaker 1: diet wise and meditation wise. So now you have like
- 34:03Speaker 1: three tasks that you have to be mindful of every
- 34:05Speaker 1: single day. And you need to be accountable to each other.
- 34:08Speaker 1: And when she's weak, you need to be a little
- 34:11Speaker 1: bit stronger. And when she and when you're weak, she's
- 34:13Speaker 1: gonna have to pick it up too, because you guys
- 34:15Speaker 1: are kind of commiserating together. And until you break this pattern,
- 34:20Speaker 1: you're not gonna You're gonna be stuck in this pattern.
- 34:22Speaker 1: And you want to be healthy and strong. Yes, when
- 34:26Speaker 1: you don't do anything for long periods of time, you
- 34:28Speaker 1: become less inclined to want to do those things. But
- 34:31Speaker 1: the minute you say, today, we're gonna go for a
- 34:33Speaker 1: fifteen minute walk together. Fifteen minutes you can do that together. Yeah,
- 34:38Speaker 1: and you're gonna feel the benefit of that when you
- 34:39Speaker 1: get back. You might be annoyed and like h but
- 34:42Speaker 1: you're just gonna do that every day for one week
- 34:44Speaker 1: from now. Fifteen minutes of exercise together. The two of
- 34:47Speaker 1: you have to do together if you can, can you yeah,
- 34:51Speaker 1: I think we can. Yeah, that's nothing, okay. And then
- 34:54Speaker 1: you can download a meditation app, any of them. You can.
- 34:57Speaker 1: I do Chopra, which is called Presence. They just change
- 35:00Speaker 1: name of it, but start with an app because those
- 35:02Speaker 1: are easier. There's ten percent happier. There's head space space.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Headspace is really user beginner friendly. Download Headspace. Do that.
- 35:12Speaker 1: Headspace is a good And you guys can meditate together.
- 35:14Speaker 1: That's an even more powerful vibration to create. It's two
- 35:17Speaker 1: people meditating together, two people that love each other, like
- 35:21Speaker 1: you're doing this together. This is a team. Now you're
- 35:24Speaker 1: on a team with your partner, and you're gonna put
- 35:26Speaker 1: fifteen minutes a day towards exercise. You're gonna do five
- 35:29Speaker 1: minutes a day to begin with of meditation, and you're
- 35:33Speaker 1: gonna be mindful of what you eat. Doesn't mean you
- 35:35Speaker 1: have to change your entire life, but just start to
- 35:38Speaker 1: make little healthier choices.
- 35:40Speaker 2: One thing that's really helped me is the addition of
- 35:43Speaker 2: healthy choices, especially when you're just starting out. It's like
- 35:45Speaker 2: adding in a little fresh fruit, adding in a fresh salad,
- 35:48Speaker 2: like something that's really manageable and easy, and like, you
- 35:51Speaker 2: start to crave that stuff even more.
- 35:54Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, instead of French fries, get a salad instead
- 35:58Speaker 1: of whatever, just those things. It doesn't sound appealing, I understand,
- 36:03Speaker 1: But once you start to practice these things, you're going
- 36:06Speaker 1: to create all of those neural pathways that she's talking about,
- 36:09Speaker 1: and you're going to start to crave the goodness and
- 36:12Speaker 1: the like. You're going to start to crave to move
- 36:14Speaker 1: your body for fifteen minutes. You just have to commit
- 36:17Speaker 1: on the lowest level. And then also, I think what
- 36:19Speaker 1: you should do is write down at the end of
- 36:22Speaker 1: the day, how you felt about all of the stuff
- 36:24Speaker 1: you did. How did I feel about the exercise, How
- 36:26Speaker 1: did you feel after you exercise good, bad, exhausted, whatever?
- 36:30Speaker 1: How did you feel after you made a healthier choice
- 36:32Speaker 1: with your food?
- 36:32Speaker 3: Good?
- 36:32Speaker 1: Bad, great, didn't matter to have no impact. Write that
- 36:36Speaker 1: down for a week, and I promise you will start
- 36:38Speaker 1: to see benefits and you're going to start to feel differently.
- 36:40Speaker 1: Your lack of motivation is feeding itself, right, so now
- 36:45Speaker 1: you have to feed it something else.
- 36:48Speaker 4: I have a question for you too. Is there a
- 36:50Speaker 4: room for a dog in your life?
- 36:53Speaker 1: You know right now?
- 36:55Speaker 9: No, we have a small apartment like super you know,
- 36:59Speaker 9: I'm saying, are going to be cool with it, but
- 37:01Speaker 9: we are planning to move eventually and definitely want to
- 37:06Speaker 9: get a dog.
- 37:07Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 37:07Speaker 2: I think that is such a helpful tool in getting
- 37:10Speaker 2: you to the movement more because you're just like, I'm
- 37:12Speaker 2: out with my dog, I'm listening to a podcast. Maybe
- 37:14Speaker 2: I'm having a good time. I want to go on
- 37:16Speaker 2: extra block.
- 37:17Speaker 4: Like it just helps so much getting you out and about.
- 37:19Speaker 1: Yeah, and being outdoors at all, whether it's nice, ugly, cold, gray,
- 37:24Speaker 1: is good for your system. That's good for your immuniony system,
- 37:27Speaker 1: It's good for your energy. Like you have to feed
- 37:29Speaker 1: yourself of medicine because you're depriving yourself of all of
- 37:32Speaker 1: the things that life has to offer. Everything's here for you,
- 37:35Speaker 1: and you're choosing to not you know what I mean,
- 37:38Speaker 1: you got to like step it up a little bit.
- 37:40Speaker 1: And on the medication front, also, is your sex drive
- 37:44Speaker 1: better without the medication? It hasn't.
- 37:47Speaker 9: I mean it's only been about three months and I'm
- 37:50Speaker 9: just like waiting around to see what's gonna happen, and
- 37:53Speaker 9: I'm still kind of at a lull.
- 37:55Speaker 1: Okay, So then maybe you do need the medication. Like
- 37:58Speaker 1: with the medication making you not sex too.
- 38:01Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that it contributed to me not having
- 38:04Speaker 9: any kind of sex drive, and my doctors agreed that
- 38:07Speaker 9: that does usually happen on anti anxiety meds or antidepressants
- 38:11Speaker 9: of certain kinds.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Okay, So I think what you should do is do
- 38:15Speaker 1: this this prescription that I've given you for the next
- 38:18Speaker 1: four weeks. Okay, do that and see if your mood changes,
- 38:22Speaker 1: and if that at that point it doesn't, I want
- 38:24Speaker 1: you to call us back, Okay, But you guys have
- 38:26Speaker 1: to do this every day together. You have to commit
- 38:28Speaker 1: to it.
- 38:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 38:29Speaker 2: And I love what you say about like starting small.
- 38:31Speaker 2: I think, like it's not new advice, but it is
- 38:33Speaker 2: the best advice, like, because you do get the ball
- 38:36Speaker 2: rolling when you start.
- 38:37Speaker 1: Yeah, you just got to pick up, like you made
- 38:38Speaker 1: this call. You're calling in because you want to change
- 38:41Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, and now you have the opportunity to
- 38:43Speaker 1: change your life. I just told you the simplest things
- 38:45Speaker 1: to do. They're totally accomplishable, regardless of what happens in
- 38:49Speaker 1: our atmosphere, what's happening right now, that has no impact,
- 38:53Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Just I want you to
- 38:55Speaker 1: move forward caring about your body and caring about your
- 38:58Speaker 1: partner's body.
- 39:00Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask, too, are there any supplements
- 39:02Speaker 2: that you would recommend as far as sexual wellness and
- 39:05Speaker 2: increasing libido or anything like that, especially for women.
- 39:08Speaker 6: I think, honestly, I think a great multi vitamin is
- 39:12Speaker 6: just a good place to start. We make a great
- 39:14Speaker 6: one at Love Wellness. Not to toot our own.
- 39:16Speaker 1: Hornbag, go go to lovewllness dot com and pick up
- 39:22Speaker 1: a multi vitamin. That's always good. Everyone needs fucking vitamins.
- 39:26Speaker 6: There are some libido supplements out there that you can try,
- 39:29Speaker 6: but I think just in general, there are some like
- 39:32Speaker 6: classic herbs that support women's health that are actually found
- 39:36Speaker 6: in our multi vitamin as kind of herbal add ons
- 39:39Speaker 6: like Ashwagonda, Chaste tree, Saint John's wort et cetera. But
- 39:44Speaker 6: a good multi vitamin can really help with hormone balance,
- 39:49Speaker 6: It can help with some of the neurological stuff that
- 39:51Speaker 6: you're talking about. Ninety percent of Americans have vitamin deficiencies,
- 39:56Speaker 6: most of them are vitamin B and vitamin D, and
- 39:58Speaker 6: that can actually lead to a lot of depression and anxiety.
- 40:01Speaker 6: I dealt with that myself, So I think, you know,
- 40:04Speaker 6: in addition, probably just a routine trip to the doctor,
- 40:07Speaker 6: you know, could be in order just to take like
- 40:10Speaker 6: a deeper look under the hood. I'm not sure of
- 40:13Speaker 6: your age, and I won't ask, but you know, there's
- 40:16Speaker 6: even the possibility that you could be experiencing some paramenopause symptoms,
- 40:21Speaker 6: which you know, like maybe a factor here. I don't know,
- 40:24Speaker 6: but perimenopause can start in women at age thirty five,
- 40:27Speaker 6: which is something that is like really not talked about.
- 40:30Speaker 6: And so yeah, I think the team here has some
- 40:32Speaker 6: really good suggestions. And I think I heard you live
- 40:35Speaker 6: in Brooklyn. You probably are doing good things for yourself
- 40:39Speaker 6: already and you're just like not noticing it. Like you're
- 40:42Speaker 6: a New Yorker. I live in New York too, Like
- 40:43Speaker 6: we walk a lot everywhere every single day. You know
- 40:46Speaker 6: what I mean. So that first week that you're taking
- 40:49Speaker 6: a journal, like write down all the things that you're doing,
- 40:52Speaker 6: Like yes, like go above and beyond and take that
- 40:55Speaker 6: fifteen minute walk. But I suspect that, like you're already
- 40:58Speaker 6: doing some things every year day that you can feel
- 41:01Speaker 6: proud about, and you are stuck in kind of this
- 41:05Speaker 6: like negative self talk environment. And yeah, I think remembering
- 41:12Speaker 6: that you want to do it for your partner and
- 41:13Speaker 6: that you love them and that you need to be
- 41:15Speaker 6: accountable to them and for them is a really helpful
- 41:19Speaker 6: part of it. Also, you know, it's like whenever my
- 41:22Speaker 6: boyfriend is having a bad day, like that's when I'm
- 41:25Speaker 6: really able to like jump into superhero mode. You know.
- 41:29Speaker 6: It's like, oh you need me, I can do that
- 41:31Speaker 6: for you.
- 41:32Speaker 7: You know.
- 41:33Speaker 6: And so playing that role for each other I think
- 41:34Speaker 6: can be really powerful.
- 41:36Speaker 1: Gotcha, And it's going to put a pep in your step.
- 41:39Speaker 1: I promise you. All of these little micro things are
- 41:41Speaker 1: going to add up together and the sum of its
- 41:44Speaker 1: parts are going to add to your life.
- 41:46Speaker 6: Okay, I hope we haven't overwhelmed you. You can do it.
- 41:50Speaker 9: No, No, it's not overwhelming at all.
- 41:52Speaker 1: Check in with us again.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Yeah, check in with us and maybe we'll have you
- 41:55Speaker 2: up on a couples counseling episode with your partner.
- 41:57Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun. We could do a follow up with
- 41:59Speaker 1: your part and see how you guys are after a month.
- 42:02Speaker 1: That would be amazing. Yeah, and then we can take
- 42:04Speaker 1: it even further.
- 42:06Speaker 6: Cool.
- 42:06Speaker 4: All right, thank you, Cynthia. We'll talk to you soon.
- 42:09Speaker 1: Okay, so much, thank you, Bye bye bye.
- 42:13Speaker 4: All right. Our next question comes from Aspen.
- 42:17Speaker 1: Aspin, Colorado. Oh, she lives in North Carolina, but her
- 42:22Speaker 1: name is Aspin.
- 42:24Speaker 4: Maybe that's where she was conceived.
- 42:26Speaker 2: Who knows, Dear Chelsea, I turned thirty this year, and
- 42:29Speaker 2: I've been at my job for ten years. I'm a
- 42:31Speaker 2: hairdresser at an amazing salon who supports me in every
- 42:34Speaker 2: way possible. The issue I'm facing is I had five
- 42:37Speaker 2: and ten year goals and I've mostly hit all of them,
- 42:40Speaker 2: even having a whoopsidoodle baby along the way. I can't
- 42:43Speaker 2: help but feel that now I'm where I want to be.
- 42:45Speaker 2: I'm really restless. I'm very driven, I'm a dream chaser,
- 42:49Speaker 2: but I feel like I've fallen into a very uncharacteristic slump.
- 42:52Speaker 2: I absolutely adore my job and I do dream of
- 42:55Speaker 2: bigger and better things, but I have such a hard
- 42:57Speaker 2: time figuring out what the hell that means. Basically, what
- 43:00Speaker 2: I'm asking is, have you ever been in a career
- 43:02Speaker 2: plettau and how did you get the clarity for your
- 43:04Speaker 2: next big dream? Thank you, aspen As.
- 43:08Speaker 4: You look incredible.
- 43:10Speaker 8: Thank you. I thought today it was a great day
- 43:12Speaker 8: to wear a pink power suit.
- 43:13Speaker 1: You're correct, excellent, excellent, this is our your outfit, you
- 43:17Speaker 1: look great. This is our special guest, Low Bosworth.
- 43:20Speaker 8: Hi, Hi, I've been a fan for a long time too.
- 43:22Speaker 8: This is wild.
- 43:23Speaker 6: Oh thanks, that's so nice. It's nice to meet you.
- 43:25Speaker 8: Nice to meet you, too, Low.
- 43:27Speaker 1: Did you want to go first since you're such a
- 43:29Speaker 1: power top. Yeah.
- 43:31Speaker 6: Honestly, I think sometimes it's okay to be in a slump.
- 43:35Speaker 6: Here's how I think about it. I think that you
- 43:38Speaker 6: could go too hard on being so good at stuff
- 43:40Speaker 6: and too hard at like doing nothing and being lazy.
- 43:44Speaker 6: I think that when I talk about balance, that's what
- 43:48Speaker 6: I mean. Like I working on fertility stuff for myself
- 43:51Speaker 6: right now. I'm taking so many fucking supplements every night
- 43:53Speaker 6: and doing all this stuff. And I decided the other night,
- 43:57Speaker 6: like I had it I needed to go out and
- 43:58Speaker 6: have a drink, and I realized we're talking about your
- 44:00Speaker 6: career and not like your wellness personal life. But I'm
- 44:03Speaker 6: just trying to create that parallel, right, is that, like,
- 44:08Speaker 6: you can take a break from being a boss bitch
- 44:11Speaker 6: if you want to. There is a lot of good
- 44:15Speaker 6: in taking a break, in letting it coast, in letting
- 44:18Speaker 6: it ride for a little while. You can accomplish a
- 44:21Speaker 6: lot of personal goals.
- 44:23Speaker 1: Right.
- 44:23Speaker 6: You can get a lot of sleep, you can drink
- 44:25Speaker 6: that cocktail that you're drinking, right. And so I didn't
- 44:29Speaker 6: expect this to be the advice that tumbled out of
- 44:32Speaker 6: my mouth, especially on this podcast or we're like girls, yeah, entrepreneurs, Yeah,
- 44:37Speaker 6: but like my god, it's exhausting to always try to
- 44:41Speaker 6: be the best and to always try to do the
- 44:43Speaker 6: right thing. And so maybe you take this moment as
- 44:47Speaker 6: a time for rest and self reflection and when your
- 44:51Speaker 6: body and mind are ready, it will come to you.
- 44:55Speaker 6: Perhaps your body and mind are not ready.
- 44:57Speaker 7: He I mean that definitely all resonates for where it's
- 45:00Speaker 7: exhausting always feeling like you have to be the best.
- 45:04Speaker 8: I mean, I feel like it's helpful in a lot
- 45:05Speaker 8: of ways.
- 45:06Speaker 7: And it's helped me get as far as I have,
- 45:08Speaker 7: like having such a high standard, but at the same time,
- 45:10Speaker 7: like it's hard to keep that going, you know.
- 45:12Speaker 1: It's hard to keep that going. And also when you're
- 45:15Speaker 1: really good at multiple things in life, there is such
- 45:20Speaker 1: truth to what Loja said, like sometimes you have to
- 45:24Speaker 1: chill out to let the mood strike you, like when
- 45:27Speaker 1: you're in search of the next job, the next project,
- 45:30Speaker 1: like that aggressively, sometimes you're kind of almost creating a
- 45:35Speaker 1: blockade towards that goal, you know, because you're putting so
- 45:38Speaker 1: much pressure on yourself. Like there is something to be
- 45:42Speaker 1: said for enjoying the moment that you're in because you're
- 45:45Speaker 1: not struggling right now, and you might be in a
- 45:49Speaker 1: little bit of a plateau, as you say, but out
- 45:52Speaker 1: of plateaus, things rise up, you know what I mean.
- 45:55Speaker 1: So enjoy this time because you may not have a
- 45:58Speaker 1: quiet time like this moving forward. And I wouldn't put
- 46:01Speaker 1: so much pressure on I have to come up with
- 46:03Speaker 1: this next thing. What is the next thing? I'm too
- 46:05Speaker 1: productive and too smart to not be this productive. That
- 46:09Speaker 1: is kind of like, you know, almost a negative self
- 46:12Speaker 1: talk cycle as well. So I would say, enjoy the
- 46:16Speaker 1: time that you're having, You're in control of your situation.
- 46:19Speaker 1: Things seem to be under control, right.
- 46:21Speaker 7: I'm definitely maybe two in control of my situation sometimes honestly, Yeah.
- 46:25Speaker 1: Well tell us about that, I mean expand Yeah.
- 46:29Speaker 7: So I've always had like a very clear idea since
- 46:31Speaker 7: i was really young of exactly what I wanted to do.
- 46:33Speaker 7: I went to school for it, I did it. I
- 46:36Speaker 7: became really successful at a really young age. I mean
- 46:38Speaker 7: I'm only thirty now and I've been at my salon
- 46:40Speaker 7: for ten years, which is kind of wild, and I've
- 46:43Speaker 7: gotten to the top of the salon and I think, yeah,
- 46:45Speaker 7: like I said, I had all those goals. I'm and
- 46:47Speaker 7: I was so meticulous about every day, this number I
- 46:51Speaker 7: hit every month, this number I hit every year, at
- 46:53Speaker 7: this number I hit every like just kind of.
- 46:56Speaker 8: Obsessed with it. And I've been so obsessed with it.
- 46:59Speaker 7: I think being control of my own career and my
- 47:02Speaker 7: own pathway that now that I've kind of gotten to that,
- 47:05Speaker 7: you know, goal that I had. The not having control
- 47:08Speaker 7: of it anymore is I think a little bit terrifying
- 47:10Speaker 7: because I'm like, wait, now I don't have control of
- 47:12Speaker 7: the future, because I don't know what the fuck the
- 47:13Speaker 7: future is.
- 47:14Speaker 1: And do you have anything that you're thinking about doing next.
- 47:18Speaker 7: I mean, that's what I was saying too, is I
- 47:19Speaker 7: absolutely love what I do, but I can't help to
- 47:22Speaker 7: like I do still feel like I had this like pit,
- 47:25Speaker 7: like this feeling in my stomach of like I'm not
- 47:27Speaker 7: fulfilling my full potential, Like I feel like I might
- 47:30Speaker 7: have more to offer the world than I'm currently offering it.
- 47:33Speaker 1: That makes sense, and if that's true, that will come
- 47:36Speaker 1: to you in a natural way. I think you sound
- 47:40Speaker 1: very controlling, you know what I mean, Like you're you're
- 47:42Speaker 1: a control freak of your own life. I mean, who
- 47:44Speaker 1: most people are. So that's fine, But I think this
- 47:47Speaker 1: is actually a good lesson that you're calling in to
- 47:49Speaker 1: talk to us, and we're telling you both to just
- 47:51Speaker 1: we're both telling you just to chill out, chill out
- 47:54Speaker 1: and like allow ideas to come your way. And I'm
- 47:57Speaker 1: sure whatever it is will naturally organically appear in your
- 48:00Speaker 1: life once you stop looking so hard for it. It's
- 48:03Speaker 1: like trying to find a boyfriend.
- 48:06Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, exactly. I mean that's honestly like how I
- 48:07Speaker 7: met my husband ten years ago.
- 48:09Speaker 8: Too. I finally was like fuck it, I'm done dating.
- 48:11Speaker 8: I'm just gonna work.
- 48:11Speaker 7: And then literally three days later he comes to the
- 48:13Speaker 7: salon and is like, hey, you marry me?
- 48:15Speaker 8: And I was like, okay, okay, great.
- 48:18Speaker 6: It sounds like you have to learn how to sit
- 48:20Speaker 6: in your discomfort a little bit. It feels like you're
- 48:23Speaker 6: really uncomfortable and you're really trying to get out of
- 48:26Speaker 6: that uncomfortable. I don't know what to say in control.
- 48:29Speaker 1: So if you're trying something uncomfortable, yeah, I mean, what'd
- 48:34Speaker 1: you say been?
- 48:35Speaker 8: They're done that?
- 48:36Speaker 1: Okay, Well, just you got just something to shake shit up.
- 48:39Speaker 1: I just love that she's having a cocktail. Okay, Well
- 48:42Speaker 1: this is good. What's your takeaway from this call?
- 48:44Speaker 8: It was definitely really helpful for sure. I mean I
- 48:47Speaker 8: think I knew that deep down.
- 48:49Speaker 7: But it's almost like when you're a little bit of
- 48:50Speaker 7: a control freak and like a go getter, you almost
- 48:52Speaker 7: need permission from somebody else to do nothing for a
- 48:55Speaker 7: minute because it's like.
- 48:56Speaker 8: You're you never give that permission to yourself.
- 48:58Speaker 7: So I feel like it's really nice to get permission
- 49:00Speaker 7: from women that I really respect to I consider to
- 49:02Speaker 7: be go getters as well.
- 49:04Speaker 1: Yeah, also like be really proud of yourself for getting
- 49:07Speaker 1: this far in your life. You're thirty years old. You've
- 49:08Speaker 1: accomplished all of the goals that you had set out,
- 49:11Speaker 1: which leads me to believe that you are going to
- 49:13Speaker 1: accomplish the next set of goals you set out, and
- 49:15Speaker 1: there is no timeframe on those things. So be very
- 49:18Speaker 1: proud of your competency and your ability to like follow
- 49:21Speaker 1: through on all of these dreams that you've had. Like
- 49:24Speaker 1: that is a huge accomplishment, So like we yeah, enjoy that.
- 49:28Speaker 1: Go with that for a minute.
- 49:30Speaker 6: Luxuriate in your accomplishments, like you've earned the right to
- 49:33Speaker 6: sit back and take a break, and.
- 49:34Speaker 1: You're only fucking thirty, Like this is Awesomey, that's so cool.
- 49:39Speaker 7: You know, I feel like I grew up really fast
- 49:41Speaker 7: as I had a kid at twenty one, so it
- 49:43Speaker 7: makes you grow up really quickly. But so sometimes I
- 49:45Speaker 7: think I feel that I'm older than I am. But yeah,
- 49:47Speaker 7: you're right, I am only thirty and I do have
- 49:50Speaker 7: lots of time.
- 49:50Speaker 4: To figure out Yeah, yeah, yeah you will.
- 49:54Speaker 8: All right.
- 49:55Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for calling in Aspen by
- 49:57Speaker 1: as Ben.
- 49:58Speaker 7: Yes, thank you, Chelsea for all the u I've been
- 50:00Speaker 7: a huge fan since I was you know, like fifteen
- 50:03Speaker 7: years old watching Chelsea Lately on the couch with my
- 50:05Speaker 7: mom at night. So this has been an honor to
- 50:06Speaker 7: talk to you. So thank you for being a huge
- 50:09Speaker 7: role model to me.
- 50:10Speaker 1: Oh thanks, thank you, thank you. Bye?
- 50:15Speaker 4: What is sweetie? So funny?
- 50:16Speaker 2: Because Cynthia was upset at herself because she didn't have
- 50:19Speaker 2: the motivation, and you know, asked me's upset at herself?
- 50:22Speaker 1: We should combine those two getting together too much motivation?
- 50:26Speaker 6: Yeah, she's like.
- 50:28Speaker 1: What's next? I'm like, I take a nap exactly, and
- 50:32Speaker 1: nap is so delicious, coun.
- 50:35Speaker 2: So let's take a quick break and we'll be back
- 50:37Speaker 2: with one kind of wild question that we have.
- 50:39Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to take a break, and we're back
- 50:46Speaker 1: with low Bosworth.
- 50:47Speaker 2: We are back, and our final question comes from Savannah.
- 50:50Speaker 2: She is twenty nine. She writes to your Chelsea, my
- 50:54Speaker 2: boyfriend tried to fuck a stripper two weeks ago, and
- 50:57Speaker 2: I'm wondering what I should do. I'm leaning toward the
- 50:59Speaker 2: idea for giving him, going to couple's therapy and working
- 51:02Speaker 2: through it. But part of me can't help but think,
- 51:05Speaker 2: what if this is who he is? Are these his
- 51:07Speaker 2: true colors? How Can I trust a liar? Do people
- 51:10Speaker 2: genuinely make mistakes? Or am I just a sucker? For context,
- 51:14Speaker 2: I'm a twenty nine year old girl and my boyfriend
- 51:16Speaker 2: is thirty one. He's the absolute love of my life,
- 51:18Speaker 2: the most thoughtful, caring, passionate person I've ever known. He
- 51:22Speaker 2: truly has a heart of gold. This sounds ridiculous, I know,
- 51:25Speaker 2: but it is true. When we first got together, all
- 51:29Speaker 2: of his friends warned me not to break his heart.
- 51:31Speaker 2: Who knew I would be the one getting screwed? Well,
- 51:33Speaker 2: me and at least one other person. We were close
- 51:36Speaker 2: friends for two years before he became a couple, and
- 51:38Speaker 2: have been dating for a year and a half and
- 51:40Speaker 2: we lived together. Here's my problem. It's not so much
- 51:43Speaker 2: the stripper, it is the lying, the deception. I feel tricked, betrayed, bamboozled,
- 51:47Speaker 2: you get it. He went out of town, a three
- 51:49Speaker 2: hour drive away on a work trip and was going
- 51:52Speaker 2: to be gone for one, maybe two nights. The second
- 51:54Speaker 2: day is wrapping up and he decides to stay another night.
- 51:56Speaker 2: I fell asleep on the couch and woke up at
- 51:58Speaker 2: two am grabbed my phone. To my surprise, he never
- 52:01Speaker 2: called or texted, so I facetimed him and he was
- 52:04Speaker 2: in an uber acting pretty weird, but it was late
- 52:06Speaker 2: and I didn't want to get into it, so I
- 52:07Speaker 2: went to bed. When he got home the next day,
- 52:10Speaker 2: the vibes were kind of weird, so I asked him
- 52:12Speaker 2: what he did that night and told him it was shitty.
- 52:14Speaker 2: He was too tired to drive, but went out and partied.
- 52:17Speaker 2: The area he was in has a lot of strip clubs,
- 52:19Speaker 2: so I asked if he went to a strip club,
- 52:20Speaker 2: and he said no. I could tell he was lying,
- 52:23Speaker 2: so I reassured him that I wouldn't be mad. I
- 52:26Speaker 2: just would like to know the truth. He insists he
- 52:29Speaker 2: did not go to a strip club. Doubles down, triples down.
- 52:32Speaker 2: So I tell myself I trust him. I have no
- 52:34Speaker 2: reason not to. And a week goes by. Then Chelsea,
- 52:37Speaker 2: I have a horrible gut feeling.
- 52:39Speaker 4: All week.
- 52:39Speaker 2: I can't sleep, and I keep thinking he cheated on me,
- 52:42Speaker 2: which is not normal. So I did the thing you're
- 52:44Speaker 2: not supposed to do, and I looked at his phone.
- 52:46Speaker 2: I went to his deleted text messages. Oh so he
- 52:49Speaker 2: was smart enough to delete it, and found that he
- 52:51Speaker 2: texted a stripper that night that he was on his
- 52:53Speaker 2: work trip. Hey, this is Tony, come to Indigo Hotel.
- 52:56Speaker 4: I got you.
- 52:57Speaker 2: I leave at ten am. I feel so heart broken,
- 53:00Speaker 2: confused and deceived. Am I a fool for not walking away?
- 53:03Speaker 2: Or am I throwing something amazing away for a stupid mistake?
- 53:07Speaker 2: Savannah lo, would you like to begin?
- 53:11Speaker 6: No?
- 53:13Speaker 4: See, this is the thing she says, like, my boyfriend
- 53:15Speaker 4: tried to fuck a stripper. But like, who's saying she
- 53:17Speaker 4: didn't show up? Nobody's saying she didn't show up. He
- 53:20Speaker 4: might have done it.
- 53:21Speaker 1: Your boyfriend lied to you repeatedly. He chose to stay
- 53:26Speaker 1: in a hotel, motel around a bunch of strip clubs
- 53:28Speaker 1: instead of coming home to you. That is all the
- 53:30Speaker 1: information that you need to know. That's it. No other
- 53:34Speaker 1: information is relevant. That's what he chose to do. He's
- 53:38Speaker 1: telling you exactly who he is, and that's it. He's
- 53:42Speaker 1: a liar. Yeah bye.
- 53:44Speaker 6: I mean like he spent a lot of time to
- 53:47Speaker 6: like plan, prepare, egxecute. This was not off the cuff, right,
- 53:54Speaker 6: which means that if you he's done this before, Yeah, Like,
- 54:01Speaker 6: it does take a lot of bravery. I think to
- 54:03Speaker 6: like go out and to actively cheat on somebody who
- 54:06Speaker 6: you love in a lot of ways, Like it takes
- 54:09Speaker 6: a lot of balls to actually execute against that plan.
- 54:13Speaker 1: It's the lying after the facts. Yeah, if there was
- 54:15Speaker 1: nothing to hide, he would have just told you, Yeah,
- 54:17Speaker 1: I did, I tried to fuck a stripper. I've ever
- 54:18Speaker 1: done that before. It's the lying. So it's over. Like,
- 54:21Speaker 1: that's not somebody you can trust, and that's not somebody
- 54:23Speaker 1: who has your best interest. So that's the that's the news,
- 54:28Speaker 1: and I hope that you act on that and instead
- 54:31Speaker 1: of finding out about this happening in another six months, right, you.
- 54:36Speaker 2: Know, there is a question of like is your tolerance
- 54:39Speaker 2: level to let him go do these things and like
- 54:41Speaker 2: have that kind of relationship and if it is, fine,
- 54:43Speaker 2: but like you can't really get past the lying, Like
- 54:46Speaker 2: there's no tolerance level for lying.
- 54:48Speaker 1: I really the lying is I can't deal with any
- 54:50Speaker 1: adults who lie. It's it's adults.
- 54:53Speaker 6: It's too stupid lie are never going to learn how
- 54:56Speaker 6: to unlie, you know what I mean. Like, if you're
- 54:58Speaker 6: an adult that lies, that's just pattern of behavior. It's
- 55:01Speaker 6: who you are, and like you're not going to change.
- 55:04Speaker 4: So yeah, so Savannah, I think.
- 55:05Speaker 1: It's over anyways, Savannah, sorry about that, but there's plenty
- 55:10Speaker 1: of guys out there that won't lie to you.
- 55:11Speaker 4: That's right.
- 55:12Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Low Buzzworth, how fun was today?
- 55:16Speaker 6: Thanks for having me? This was a delight.
- 55:18Speaker 1: I want everyone to know where you can get her products.
- 55:21Speaker 1: They are available nationwide at Target, Alta Beauty, Walmart, Amazon,
- 55:26Speaker 1: and then at Lovewellness dot com. Yes, and you also
- 55:29Speaker 1: wrote a book called Love Yourself Well so that goes
- 55:32Speaker 1: into all the science behind all of the gut brain,
- 55:34Speaker 1: vagina axis everything we're talking about. And you have a podcast,
- 55:38Speaker 1: right and you have a podcast called Gut Feelings.
- 55:41Speaker 6: Yes, our love on this podcast is coming back next year.
- 55:43Speaker 6: We're on a little hiatus right now because we got
- 55:45Speaker 6: a lot of work to do, but the podcast will
- 55:47Speaker 6: be coming back.
- 55:48Speaker 1: Okay, great, Okay, Low, thank you so much. Congrats on
- 55:52Speaker 1: every you Bye.
- 55:55Speaker 2: If you'd like advice from Chelsea, shoot us an email
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- 56:04Speaker 2: by Brad Dickert executive producer Catherine law And be sure
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