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The Kenny Report | 8 August · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Live from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show.
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Speaker 3: I'm Daniki di Giorgio, filling in this evening for Chris Kenny. Tonight,
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Speaker 3: Albo's Tone death album drop. Why won't he take the
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Speaker 3: cost of living crisis seriously? Well, it's happened to boxes
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Speaker 3: with male chromosomes are competing for gold. Will bring you
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Speaker 3: the latest in the Olympics gender controversy. Kevin Rudd has
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Speaker 3: held a gay pride party at his US residence, complete
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Speaker 3: with drag queens. You won't believe how much this cost
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Speaker 3: the tax payer. And we'll cross to London for the
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Speaker 3: latest on the UK riots with Alexander Downer. But first,
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Speaker 3: what's the old saying how many people does it take
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Speaker 3: to change a light bulb?
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Speaker 2: Well, the same can be asked of labor.
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Speaker 3: How many labor MPs does it take to understand how
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Speaker 3: the econ ME works?
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Speaker 2: I was shocked to watch the Prime Minister on Sky
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Speaker 2: News this morning.
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Speaker 3: Completely fumble over his words when asked serious questions about
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Speaker 3: the pressure government spending is putting on inflation. Now, it's
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Speaker 3: something labor and the States for that matter, have been
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Speaker 3: warned about for some time. They are spending too much.
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Speaker 3: They need to stop doing what they're doing. Not that
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Speaker 3: Anthony Arberesi seems to understand.
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Speaker 4: That are Australians facing higher rates for longer because of
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Speaker 4: big spending federal and state budgets. Well, that's not what
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Speaker 4: they've said, Peter, with respect and well.
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Speaker 5: This is the quote here from the RBA.
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Speaker 4: Public demand is forecast to be stronger than previously expected,
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Speaker 4: reflecting recent public spending announcements by federal and state governments.
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Speaker 5: Are you saying they're wrong. Yeah, that's very different.
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Speaker 4: That's very different from the way that you characterized it, Peter.
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Speaker 4: We've made sure fiscal policy, budget policy works.
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Speaker 5: I'm in with monetory. Well that's not.
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Speaker 4: Working at all, because because the RBA and Treasury are
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Speaker 4: brawling at the moment, that's not true, Peter.
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Speaker 5: Well you're saying completely different inflation. No, we're no, we're not.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's not what the Reserve Bank thinks. In its
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Speaker 3: statement on monetary policy, it says public demand is forecast
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Speaker 3: to be stronger than previously expected, reflecting recent public spending
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Speaker 3: announcements by federal and state governments.
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Speaker 2: Yet clearly the Prime Minister has a problem.
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Speaker 3: With the RBA's warning, and the Treasurer has a problem
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Speaker 3: with the RBA's warning too.
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Speaker 6: Budget spending is not the primary determinant of prices in
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Speaker 6: the economy, but we can be helpful and we are
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Speaker 6: being helpful with the design of our cost of living
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Speaker 6: policies which help us get back to target sooner.
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Speaker 3: As I said, how many labor and ps does it
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Speaker 3: take to understand basic economics?
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Speaker 2: The RBA Governor Michelle Bullok said it would.
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Speaker 3: Take two years two years to bring inflation down to
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Speaker 3: where it should be, and the opposition is quite rightly
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Speaker 3: sounding the alarm.
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Speaker 7: Anthony Albertezi had a train wreck interview this morning on
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Speaker 7: Sky News with Peter Stephanovic. It's clear to me that
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Speaker 7: he doesn't understand the basic economic principles. The Reserve Bank
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Speaker 7: governor is warned of the Labor Party splashing more money
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Speaker 7: at a federal and state level into the economy in
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Speaker 7: a way that will drive up inflation therefore interest rates.
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Speaker 8: And there's really only two possibilities here. One is that
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Speaker 8: the Prime Minister doesn't understand what he's talking about, and
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Speaker 8: that is a possibility because this is a bloke that's
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Speaker 8: often not across the detail or he was trying to
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Speaker 8: willfully mislead you and your viewers. The RBA has been
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Speaker 8: crystal clear here on multiple occasions.
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Speaker 2: Now see the issue is labor.
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Speaker 3: Don't seem to understand much when it comes to the economy.
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Speaker 3: Have a look at this tone deaf social media post
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Speaker 3: put out by Anthony Albanezi on x.
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Speaker 2: It says new album just dropped with.
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Speaker 3: A photo as you can see, imitating the So Fresh
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Speaker 3: Australian Compilation CD series.
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Speaker 2: The cover reads so.
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Speaker 3: Helpful Cost of Living Relief Winter twenty twenty four and
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Speaker 3: in place of top songs, the album cover references government.
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Speaker 2: Initiatives such as cheaper medicine.
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Speaker 3: Tax cuts for every Australian, three hundred dollars off power
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Speaker 3: bills and three billion of student debt wiped.
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Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, give me a break. So helpful, So helpful,
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Speaker 2: he says, More like so out of touch.
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Speaker 3: He still has not seemed to quite grasp The cost
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Speaker 3: of living is no laughing matter, It's no joke. The
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Speaker 3: rental crisis is no joke. Bills through the roof no joke,
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Speaker 3: the cost of petrol or grocery is no joke. And
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Speaker 3: I could go on and on. Who is actually in
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Speaker 3: charge of this country. Apparently it's dj Albow ohen also,
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Speaker 3: of course inflation and if the PMS social media post
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Speaker 3: was bad enough, it's been hit with community notes by X,
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Speaker 3: which means the post contained truths. He has been called
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Speaker 3: out for publicly lying it says. Many of the policies
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Speaker 3: cited do not fully come into effect until much later
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Speaker 3: than winter twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 5: Eg.
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Speaker 3: Paid PRAC for students doesn't start until July twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 3: paid parental leave will be phased in by twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 3: and only seventy five dollars of the three hundred dollars
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Speaker 3: power bill relief will be paid by winter twenty and
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Speaker 3: twenty four. So this is clearly not the album review
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Speaker 3: dj Albow was hoping for. He has been done for
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Speaker 3: misinformation by X. His latest album has been a flop,
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Speaker 3: though you won't see homegrown inflation on his album cover.
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Speaker 3: As Simon Benson writes in The Australian Today, the best
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Speaker 3: analogy I've heard to describe the politics now driving the
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Speaker 3: inflation debate is of the man who is top by
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Speaker 3: his doctor to lose weight. Instead of cutting back on
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Speaker 3: the carbs, the patient simply changes the scales. So maybe
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Speaker 3: DJ Albow's next album drop could be called Inflation Station.
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Speaker 2: Because that is a big hit for labor.
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Speaker 3: Well, you won't believe what Kevin Rudd is up to now.
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Speaker 3: He has blown the taxpayer dine on gay pride parties.
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Speaker 3: Yes you heard that correct, gay pride parties. He has
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Speaker 3: turned his ambassador residence in the US into some sort
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Speaker 3: of bizarre drag queen.
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Speaker 2: Nightclub of swords.
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Speaker 3: And I really can't even believe I'm reading that out
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Speaker 3: and all to the tune of about twenty thousand taxpayer dollars.
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Speaker 3: According to nine newspapers under freedom of information laws, it
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Speaker 3: was a show stopper a pride party at Rudd's Washington
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Speaker 3: residence last June, and this was just months to Rud
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Speaker 3: arrived in Washington to take up the posting of the
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Speaker 3: Ambassador to the US Will The embassy spared no expense
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Speaker 3: and insuring it was a glitter spangled rainbow banger, the
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Speaker 3: Department of Foreign Affairs and Trades splashed out around four
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Speaker 3: and a half thousand dollary dollars on balloon installations, one
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Speaker 3: fashioned into a rainbow Pride flag and another into a
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Speaker 3: custom garland. I mean, can you believe it four and
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Speaker 3: a half thousand dollars on balloons alone. The catering bill
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Speaker 3: for the Pride party was around eleven thousand dollars, but
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Speaker 3: by far the real main event were the drag queens
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Speaker 3: the embassy flute.
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Speaker 2: Drag DJ Kitty Glitter.
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Speaker 3: Into Washington, paying the performer around four thousand dollars for
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Speaker 3: the set plus flights and incidentals, and Kevin Rudd posted
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Speaker 3: on Instagram name a better duo, k Rudd and k Glitz,
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Speaker 3: but k Glitz was not enough for k Rudd. Fellow
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Speaker 3: drag queen Crystal Edge, was hired to perform a set
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Speaker 3: worth around six hundred Ossie dollar so in total, with
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Speaker 3: the drag Queens, the balloons, the catering, it works out
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Speaker 3: to be around twenty thousand Australian dollars and all on
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Speaker 3: the taxpayer dime. Just three months after Kevin Rudd took
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Speaker 3: up the ambassador, posting I mean, what on earth is
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Speaker 3: this bloke doing. People are working harder than they ever
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Speaker 3: have before, working hard to put food on the table,
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Speaker 3: pay the bills in the middle of a cost of
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Speaker 3: living crisis, and k Rud is out there living it up,
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Speaker 3: making a fool of himself, importing drag queens over to
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Speaker 3: the US, acting like a Mardi Gras ambassador, spending four
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Speaker 3: grand on balloons.
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Speaker 2: And more, all on our dime.
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Speaker 3: It's a whole new level of unprofessional cringe and totally unacceptable.
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Speaker 3: It makes a mockery of Australians doing it tough. And
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Speaker 3: guess what, k rud and k Glitz did it all
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Speaker 3: again this year in June, Kitty Glitter set a fabulous
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Speaker 3: evening full of pride at the Australian.
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Speaker 2: Embassy in Washington, DC.
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Speaker 3: Such an honor to be invited back again this year.
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Speaker 3: Here we go again.
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Speaker 2: I'd like to know how much that cost us.
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Speaker 3: Read the room, Kevin, we're joining me now is national
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Speaker 3: and p Keith Pitt, Keith, thank you so much for
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Speaker 3: joining us this evening. Let's start with the DJ Albo
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Speaker 3: new album drop. As we said, it's been titled so helpful.
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Speaker 3: What's your reaction to his new CD of sorts?
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Speaker 9: Well, whether it's pride parties at the US Embassy or
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Speaker 9: this type of nonsense, it just demonstrates how much this
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Speaker 9: Prime Minister and this federal labor government are disconnected from
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Speaker 9: the every day Australian and how tough they're doing it.
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Speaker 9: But I was really surprised he left off his two
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Speaker 9: favorite tracks. He left off It's the Coalition's fault and
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Speaker 9: I blame Peter Dutton as the other two you usually
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Speaker 9: see that I have in the performance at every single
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Speaker 9: doorstop and every time he talks to the press, weren't there.
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Speaker 9: If you want to know what the Australian people think,
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Speaker 9: have a look at the comments. And they are scathing, and.
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Speaker 2: They are rightly scathing too.
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Speaker 3: As I said, it's just a tone deaf post inappropriate
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Speaker 3: in the middle of a cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 2: And Keith I asked earlier.
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Speaker 3: How many labor and ps does it take to understand
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Speaker 3: how the economy works? Not one of them can understand
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Speaker 3: that big spending equals pressure on inflation. They've been warned.
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Speaker 3: Why do you think labor is so desperately trying to
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Speaker 3: deny the RBA's warnings.
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Speaker 9: Well, you've got a treasure that denies how economics works.
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Speaker 9: He wrote a six thousand word treatise on how he's
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Speaker 9: going to remake capitalism. He doesn't listen to any of
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Speaker 9: the major economists in Australia who are alsaying the same thing.
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Speaker 9: The RBA Governor was super clear in her comments yesterday
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Speaker 9: the policies of this labor government are driving inflation. Australia
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Speaker 9: has an inflation problem that is pushing up the cost
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Speaker 9: of living. It's not a wages problem or an underpayment problem,
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Speaker 9: or wages are too low. It's that living costs are
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Speaker 9: simply outstripping what people are earning. And that is a
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Speaker 9: real problem for every single Australian. And you cannot make
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Speaker 9: that up simply by picking one of your favorite industries
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Speaker 9: and giving them taxpayer money in terms of wage increases.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about childcare because Anthony Albanezy today announced
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Speaker 3: a fifteen percent pay rise for childcare workers.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be funded by tax payers. Now, Keith,
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.
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Speaker 3: They should not get a pay rise, because I think
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Speaker 3: that they are deserving. But my concern is is that
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Speaker 3: it's going to set now a precedent for other industries
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Speaker 3: to want to follow suits. But what's your take? Is
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Speaker 3: this good or bad policy?
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Speaker 9: I completely understand why they're struggling. It is lower paid.
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Speaker 9: Everyone wants to earn more money. I don't know anyone
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Speaker 9: that doesn't. But what about everyone else? What about the
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Speaker 9: hairdressers and the people who are operating the checkouts at
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Speaker 9: the local supermarket, and all the individuals who are working
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Speaker 9: in parks and gardens and everything else which doesn't usually
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Speaker 9: attract a very large wage. Where is their fifteen percent
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Speaker 9: subsidy from the taxpayer? Well, why don't they get to go?
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Speaker 9: And the answer across the board is really really simple.
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Speaker 9: The labor government needs to focus on living costs because
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Speaker 9: if you get those down, then that helps everybody, not
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Speaker 9: just one group or one group of individuals who they
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Speaker 9: think might help them somewhere in election. It is a
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Speaker 9: nonsense decision. I just think it's madness. So where does
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Speaker 9: this end? Does everyone end up working for the public service?
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Speaker 9: What about the poor organizations who have to sign up
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Speaker 9: to this and then get a massive increase in their
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Speaker 9: rent or a massive increase in taxes at a state level,
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Speaker 9: whether it's land tax or others, and then they can't
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Speaker 9: afford to pay their bills and they fall over. This
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Speaker 9: is why government should stay out of these organizations and
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Speaker 9: just let them operate.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely agree. Now, look, let's turn to renewaballs.
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Speaker 2: Because Albo has backed a dud.
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Speaker 3: The Australian is reporting that a solar panel manufacturer backed
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Speaker 3: by Mike cannon Brooks and former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull,
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Speaker 3: is preparing to cut up to thirty five jobs in
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Speaker 3: a possible step back to Albow's renewable manufacturing plans. Keith
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Speaker 3: Sundrive Sola this year signed a deal to establish a
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Speaker 3: solar manufacturing facility, of course, at the former Laddel coal
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Speaker 3: fire power station as part of that federal SunShot program.
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Speaker 5: What does this mean?
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Speaker 3: Do you think now for labels Labour's renewables dream, that
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Speaker 3: means the solar Sunshot's misfired.
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Speaker 9: That's what it means. Because like every single commentator that's
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Speaker 9: said at the time, how do you compete with China
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Speaker 9: who does not have all of these crazy green policies,
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Speaker 9: who don't have the overheads of the environmental regulations and
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Speaker 9: everything else, and unionize workforces and all the things that
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Speaker 9: we want and hope to have in Australia, But they
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Speaker 9: just simply can't compete. You're competing with two hands tied
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Speaker 9: behind your back, and even a massive injection of money
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Speaker 9: from the labor government clearly hasn't made the difference. Because
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Speaker 9: if you are firing staff, that generally indicates you've got
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Speaker 9: a real problem and it is a complete misfire. It
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Speaker 9: is a mishot, is a missed opportunity, and everyone who
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Speaker 9: knew anything about manufacturing said it wouldn't work, and it looks.
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Speaker 1: Like it won't.
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Speaker 3: No, and it's no wonder that a number of companies
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Speaker 3: are now ditching their green dreams themselves because they have
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Speaker 3: realized that they can't do it, And no wonder they're
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Speaker 3: also cutting staff. Now, before we let you go, the
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Speaker 3: Queensland premier's socialist era pipe dream to intervene in service
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Speaker 3: stations is facing a roadblock already. It's been revealed at
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Speaker 3: least fifty independent fuel retailers would need to set up
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Speaker 3: shop in southeast Queensland four miles to achieve this election
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Speaker 3: promise of cutting fuel prices by actually intervening in the market.
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Speaker 2: Keep how ridiculous? Seriously is this plan?
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Speaker 5: Well?
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Speaker 9: Which family owned business, which independent station? Which independent provider?
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Speaker 9: Does the miles government think they're going to put out
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Speaker 9: a business? What's the work from home raster? Do you
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Speaker 9: think denka on the public service operator? Service station? That
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Speaker 9: might be quite challenging, But this from a premier who
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Speaker 9: can't run the hell system, can't fix ambulance ramping, can't
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Speaker 9: sort out youth crime. I can't do all the things
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Speaker 9: that state governments could do. But somehow they're going to
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Speaker 9: run a commercial service station that will drive down fuel
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Speaker 9: prices in a couple of key locations and guess what,
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Speaker 9: there'll be marginal seats and it won't make any difference
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Speaker 9: whatsoever because the Miles government stinks they can't do what
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Speaker 9: they're employed to do, and they should get out of
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Speaker 9: the way and let David christy ffully get on with
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Speaker 9: fixing it.
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Speaker 3: Well, there's only a few months to go to see
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Speaker 3: what happens in those states.
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Speaker 2: Keith Pitt, always good to talk to you, Thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining me this evening.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 3: The Paris Olympics descended into the ultimate face overnight when
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Speaker 3: a Taiwanese boxer with male chromosomes demolished her opponent in
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Speaker 3: all three rounds to go through to the women's final.
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Speaker 3: Lyn Yu Ting joins our Jeria's Amani Khalif, who also
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Speaker 3: has male chromosomes and also made the final in her
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Speaker 3: respected category. So two genetically males boxes going for gold.
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Speaker 3: What an absolute joke? And how is this for the
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Speaker 3: ultimate statement? The Turkish boxer who was defeat by the
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Speaker 3: Taiwanese athlete made an X sign with her fingers after
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Speaker 3: losing the bout, signaling XX chromosomes aka female chromosomes.
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Speaker 2: She is the second to make such a statement.
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Speaker 3: What a shame she never got the chance to compete
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Speaker 3: against another with xx chromosomes. Joining me now is Liberal
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Speaker 3: Senator Claire Chandler. Claire, thank you so much for joining
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Speaker 3: us this evening, it's been confirmed two boxes with male
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Speaker 3: chromosomes will go for gold.
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Speaker 2: What's your reaction, Well.
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Speaker 10: I think it's incredibly disappointing to see these two boxes,
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Speaker 10: who we know have previously been disqualified from women women's
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Speaker 10: boxing competition being able to compete for if not a gold,
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Speaker 10: then definitely a silver medal in the women's women's boxing
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Speaker 10: at the Olympics.
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Speaker 2: Over this coming weekend.
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Speaker 10: One will be playing on Saturday morning our time and
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Speaker 10: one will be playing on Sunday, And frankly, I think
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Speaker 10: the IOC has to hang their head in shame here.
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Speaker 10: They have had these ridiculous policy settings for some years
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Speaker 10: now that don't protect single sex sport for women, and
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Speaker 10: we are now seeing the sad reality of that playing
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Speaker 10: out on the international stage.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's a complete fus you know.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the other day the IOC released a statement saying, oh,
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Speaker 3: this is discrimination or discrimination to who. How weak of
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Speaker 3: an organization is this clear when they won't even or
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Speaker 3: are not even willing to guarantee the safety of women.
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Speaker 10: Oh, it's incredibly weak on behalf of the IOC. And
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Speaker 10: you only have to look at some of the protests
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Speaker 10: that have been made, like you say, female athletes making
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Speaker 10: the X sign after their boxing matches to signify the
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Speaker 10: importance of this issue. And the interesting thing is that
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Speaker 10: when you look at other world sporting authorities that have
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Speaker 10: implemented single sex policies for women's sport, they have surveyed
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Speaker 10: female athletes, they have asked female athletes what they want
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Speaker 10: to see in terms of these policy settings, and overwhelmingly,
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Speaker 10: the response from female athletes always is that the only
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Speaker 10: way to ensure that women's sport is fair and safe
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Speaker 10: for women is to ensure that it is single sex.
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Speaker 10: So I think it's high time for the IOC to
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Speaker 10: actually start listening to female athletes and reverse this ridiculous
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Speaker 10: policy that they have that inclusion in sports should be
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Speaker 10: on the basis of gender identity rather than biological sex.
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Speaker 2: Because it is that policy that is.
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Speaker 10: The number one reason why they haven't undertaken sex testing
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Speaker 10: on these boxing athletes.
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Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous. And have a look at some of
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Speaker 3: the coverage of this issue. You pointed out on social
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Speaker 3: media that the ABC has described this as an anti
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Speaker 3: trans war. Now it appears that they've since changed that
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Speaker 3: headline to a pilon but have a look at this quote.
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Speaker 3: The far right ignited a hateful firestorm on social media,
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Speaker 3: especially after public figures such as JK. Rowling, the British
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Speaker 3: author of children's fantasy series Harry Potter, join the fraid
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Speaker 3: to levy anti trans attacks. Claire, this is the way
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Speaker 3: the ABC describes those who have raised legitimate concerns about
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Speaker 3: this matter. They say it's ignited a hateful firestorm. What
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Speaker 3: does that tell you, Oh, it doesn't tell me anything new. Frankly, Danika,
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Speaker 3: I've been concerned for a very long time about the
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Speaker 3: way the National broadcaster reports around these issues, going back
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Speaker 3: to the twenty twenty two federal election, when this issue
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Speaker 3: was obviously of some interest to the Australian public for
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Speaker 3: some weeks of the campaign, and the way the ABC
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Speaker 3: completely miscategorized that debate was so inappropriate.
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Speaker 10: Indeed, I wrote to the chair of the ABC, Ida Buttrose,
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Speaker 10: at the time, to point out to her just how
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Speaker 10: ridiculous this was.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised to see.
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Speaker 10: The way that the ABC have been reporting around this
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Speaker 10: issue this week. Honestly, it's actually inaccurate to describe this
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Speaker 10: as an anti trans war or anything of that nature.
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Speaker 10: The athletes that we're talking about at the Olympics, these
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Speaker 10: two athletes in boxing, aren't transgender. They are athletes that
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Speaker 10: have we've got them DSD athletes, a difference in sex development.
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Speaker 10: So they're completely conflating issues here for their own interests,
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Speaker 10: and I think it's disappointing from the National broadcaster.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, it certainly is.
20:29
Speaker 5: Claire.
20:29
Speaker 3: Do you think half the battle now is that people
20:32
Speaker 3: are so scared or unwilling to be able to define
20:36
Speaker 3: what a woman is.
20:37
Speaker 2: I mean, originally it was so clear cut.
20:39
Speaker 3: Now you've got a case where boxes have to go
20:41
Speaker 3: on a gender eligibility test just to decide whether or
20:45
Speaker 3: not they are indeed women. Has it just become so
20:48
Speaker 3: murky that it's impossible to tell these days?
20:53
Speaker 11: Oh?
20:54
Speaker 10: Quite, Frankly, I don't think it's murky at all.
20:56
Speaker 2: Of d Daniker.
20:57
Speaker 10: I don't think this is a complex issue. If the
20:59
Speaker 10: IOC had a clear cup policy, which says that women's
21:02
Speaker 10: sport is for individuals of the female sex, we would
21:05
Speaker 10: not be in the current situation that we're in.
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Speaker 2: No, No, that's the thing. That's what I mean.
21:09
Speaker 3: You know, it shouldn't be murky, but it's become complicated
21:12
Speaker 3: by the left to keep peddling these terms of no
21:15
Speaker 3: anyone can be a woman, or as the IOC says,
21:18
Speaker 3: it's on your passport.
21:19
Speaker 2: So there you go.
21:19
Speaker 3: You're fine. Claire Chandler, good to have you on. Thank
21:22
Speaker 3: you so much for joining me on the show this evening.
21:25
Speaker 3: Well coming up, Rud spares no expense on his lavish
21:28
Speaker 3: taxpayer funded Pride Party. Plus, not only does Rudd like
21:33
Speaker 3: digging into taxpayer funds, Karen Webb's also had a stab.
21:37
Speaker 2: That's next.
21:41
Speaker 3: Now it's time for our Thursday panel. Joining me is
21:44
Speaker 3: step mate studios Mark Nicholson and cartoonist Johanna Sleek.
21:48
Speaker 2: Good to see you both.
21:49
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me on the show
21:51
Speaker 3: this evening. Now, look, I spoke earlier about Kevin Rudd
21:54
Speaker 3: blowing around twenty thousand taxpayer dollars on gay pride parties.
21:59
Speaker 3: Would you believe he turned his ambassador residence in the
22:02
Speaker 3: US into some sort of bizarre drag queen nightclub. They
22:07
Speaker 3: even flew in a drag queen from Australia. I mean,
22:10
Speaker 3: you can't make this up right. It absolutely writes itself. Mark,
22:14
Speaker 3: what do you make of Kevin Runn's drag queen party
22:17
Speaker 3: on the taxpayer dimeh.
22:20
Speaker 12: Look, it's pretty insulting, to be honest, especially in light
22:23
Speaker 12: of you know, the RBA coming out this week and
22:25
Speaker 12: talking about how government spending is out of control. It's
22:27
Speaker 12: absolutely insulting. I don't know if it's just some sort
22:30
Speaker 12: of you know, virtue signal, or whether it's you know,
22:34
Speaker 12: this is actually what gets Running's rocks off.
22:35
Speaker 2: I have no idea either way.
22:37
Speaker 12: I thought he just thought he was going to get
22:38
Speaker 12: away with this being completely uncriticizable just because it's you know,
22:42
Speaker 12: LGBTQUI alementop plus related. But if you take that out
22:46
Speaker 12: of the equation, forty five hundred dollars on balloons for
22:49
Speaker 12: a party, come on, it's a bit ridiculous and insulting
22:53
Speaker 12: in light of the crisis that's going on.
22:55
Speaker 3: Well, it was apparently a fashionable balloon of sorts. It
22:58
Speaker 3: was a beautiful balloon display. I don't know why you
23:01
Speaker 3: would spend four and a half grand on there, but
23:02
Speaker 3: apparently we're not up to date. We're not hip enough
23:04
Speaker 3: apparently to understand. You had us on waiting to see
23:07
Speaker 3: if you're going to come out with some sort of
23:09
Speaker 3: a cartoon of.
23:10
Speaker 2: This grand event. But what's your take on it?
23:15
Speaker 1: Well, look at yeah, look it's asking for it, isn't it.
23:18
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe this is how things are done
23:19
Speaker 1: over there.
23:20
Speaker 13: This is how this is how Australia sort of sits
23:23
Speaker 13: there and says, you know, we're a serious partner, don't
23:25
Speaker 13: worry about us.
23:26
Speaker 1: You can trust us.
23:27
Speaker 13: With nuclear secrets and nuclear submarines. And by the way,
23:32
Speaker 13: have a look at this rainbow balloon or displaying and
23:36
Speaker 13: over here the drag show. I mean, yeah, look, I
23:39
Speaker 13: mean but look, I would say if you if you're
23:42
Speaker 13: worried about this not passing the pub test, I think
23:44
Speaker 13: you're sort of barking up the wrong tree.
23:46
Speaker 1: This this is passing the.
23:47
Speaker 13: Gay bar test, right, It totally passes that test, So you.
23:51
Speaker 1: Know, and it's great to see that.
23:54
Speaker 13: He followed it up by repeating it this year, but
23:57
Speaker 13: it was such a great success that he thought, you know,
24:00
Speaker 13: we'll rub rub Australian's.
24:01
Speaker 1: Nose in it one more time and do it all
24:03
Speaker 1: over again.
24:04
Speaker 3: Well, let's not call him Kevin run from now on.
24:06
Speaker 3: Let's call him Kevin RuPaul.
24:09
Speaker 2: Since he's just dug down down with the cool kids. Apparently.
24:13
Speaker 3: Now, look, let's stay in the US because Trump's VP
24:16
Speaker 3: pick has mocked Kamala Harris in front of Air Force
24:19
Speaker 3: Too for failing to give an interview since becoming the
24:22
Speaker 3: Democratic Party presidential nominee.
24:25
Speaker 2: This is what he said.
24:27
Speaker 14: I just wanted to check out my future plan, but
24:29
Speaker 14: I also wanted to go say hello to the Vice
24:31
Speaker 14: president and ask her why Kamala Harris refuses?
24:35
Speaker 1: Why does she refuse to answer questions from the media?
24:38
Speaker 14: And I also thought that the pres gaggle following.
24:40
Speaker 1: Her might get a little lonely.
24:41
Speaker 14: I at least have enough respect for you all, and
24:44
Speaker 14: to the American people you report you to come.
24:46
Speaker 5: And talk to you. Mark.
24:47
Speaker 2: This guy's hilarious.
24:48
Speaker 3: He certainly isn't shy, but he raises a good point.
24:51
Speaker 3: Why was she not come out and say some words,
24:54
Speaker 3: speak do something?
24:56
Speaker 2: What do you think.
24:59
Speaker 12: Eight seventeen that she's hidden away. She's reading off a teleprompter. Unfortunately, though,
25:04
Speaker 12: and I hope this message starts resonating with people. This
25:06
Speaker 12: is they're kind of winning at this point. There's so
25:10
Speaker 12: much momentum behind Harris that she's getting up there, she's
25:12
Speaker 12: reading off the teleprompter. They're not missing a beat. I
25:15
Speaker 12: want to see more of this sort of spunk from JD.
25:18
Speaker 12: We need to move away from the whole couch thing
25:21
Speaker 12: that he's getting aligned with all the time, and he
25:23
Speaker 12: needs to just, yeah, get out there, you know, ruffle
25:26
Speaker 12: a few feathers, you know, be a bit more trumpion
25:28
Speaker 12: about it. I just can't believe that we've already moved
25:31
Speaker 12: on from the fact that, you know, the former president
25:33
Speaker 12: got shot at, and we're already moving on to watching
25:37
Speaker 12: Harris fire up the crowds and all that sort of stuff.
25:40
Speaker 12: It's it's pretty scary what's going on in the States,
25:43
Speaker 12: but hopefully, hopefully they can turn around. I just want
25:45
Speaker 12: to see a bit more spunk from the boys.
25:47
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's a fair point. Absolutely, you're right, it's moved
25:49
Speaker 2: on so quick.
25:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hannah, I mean, maybe Carmala Harris can't speak without
25:53
Speaker 3: a teleprompter like her predecessory. Maybe this is why she's
25:56
Speaker 3: not doing interviews. Maybe it's that the curse of the Democrats.
26:00
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think it's strange. Do you
26:02
Speaker 3: think it's strange?
26:04
Speaker 1: Yeah?
26:04
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think she's in real trouble. I mean, this
26:08
Speaker 13: is this is their worst nightmare. A couple of blokes
26:11
Speaker 13: they're up against, who can you know, with walk up
26:14
Speaker 13: to a walk up to a press group with swagger
26:18
Speaker 13: and talk off the cuff and you know, think on
26:22
Speaker 13: their feet. This is you know, that's playing dirty as
26:25
Speaker 13: far as the Democrats are concerned. They're completely out of
26:27
Speaker 13: their depth unless sitting in front of a telepropter and
26:30
Speaker 13: you know, rattling off rehearsed lines. We've seen time and
26:33
Speaker 13: time again what happens when Kamala Harris is put on
26:35
Speaker 13: the spot, and she usually just sort of goes into
26:39
Speaker 13: cackle mode and you know it's a disaster. So yeah,
26:44
Speaker 13: I mean, look, I think JD. Vans is showing that
26:46
Speaker 13: he's he does have that swagger, he does have that spunk,
26:50
Speaker 13: and you know he's got an ability to engineer a
26:54
Speaker 13: situation to his own advantage in much the same way
26:56
Speaker 13: that Donald Trump's always been able to do so.
26:59
Speaker 1: I mean, just look at the assassination attempt.
27:01
Speaker 13: Who else could have turned an assassination attempt into a
27:05
Speaker 13: into a sort of media triumph the way he did.
27:09
Speaker 13: You know, there's a bit of that going on.
27:10
Speaker 3: I think only only Trump could do something like that,
27:14
Speaker 3: and he did it quite well. I've got to say
27:16
Speaker 3: now to these revelations that have been uncovered by the
27:18
Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph that the new South Wales Police Commissioner Karen
27:22
Speaker 3: Webb spent more than eleven thousand dollars of taxpayer funds
27:25
Speaker 3: buying fifty bottles of personalized gin and two hundred gift.
27:30
Speaker 2: Boxes to give to visiting dignitaries.
27:32
Speaker 3: Now, former KOP turned Upper House MP Rob Roberts has
27:36
Speaker 3: alleged in Parliament that the gin was used by Misweb
27:39
Speaker 3: herself and her personal staff Mark.
27:42
Speaker 2: The practice of giving alcohol.
27:43
Speaker 3: As gifts has been banned as of today, meaning there's
27:46
Speaker 3: about two thousand dollars worth of the commissioner's gin in
27:49
Speaker 3: limbo right now. Do you think it was appropriate to
27:52
Speaker 3: give gin as a gift in the first place?
27:57
Speaker 12: I know, the problem is like, what are we going
27:59
Speaker 12: to do all the cops? There's nothing there's nothing we
28:02
Speaker 12: can do about it. Unfortunately, And to be fair, like
28:05
Speaker 12: this is the stuff that they were just negligent about
28:08
Speaker 12: relate like they got caught so easily for this one. Like,
28:11
Speaker 12: imagine the sort of stuff that they're actually getting up
28:13
Speaker 12: to behind closes.
28:15
Speaker 2: This is kind of like.
28:16
Speaker 12: Pinging a bikey for a dodgy road worthy, do you
28:18
Speaker 12: know what I mean? The stuff that's going on in
28:20
Speaker 12: the clubhouse is going to be far more interesting. But yeah,
28:24
Speaker 12: I don't know. They could have bought the Pauline Hansoon gin.
28:26
Speaker 12: They would have been a better use of taxpayers money
28:28
Speaker 12: in my in my in my opinion.
28:31
Speaker 2: They would have been a good gin.
28:32
Speaker 3: Actually, I wonder what the difference between her and Karen
28:35
Speaker 3: Webb's quality of gin would have been.
28:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, had does Karen Webb?
28:39
Speaker 1: You know?
28:39
Speaker 3: She was Yeah, absolutely, she was meant to give a
28:41
Speaker 3: press conference today, but then she's canceled. It doesn't that
28:45
Speaker 3: make the situation worse? If you're not going to come
28:47
Speaker 3: out and explain what's gone on here, clarify it, put
28:51
Speaker 3: it on the record, then what's the purpose of going
28:54
Speaker 3: through different channels saying no, I didn't do this, No,
28:56
Speaker 3: I didn't do this.
28:59
Speaker 13: Well, did you remember some of her press conferences around
29:03
Speaker 13: the time of the blahahlah Mark Condon, Yes.
29:06
Speaker 1: Murder case.
29:08
Speaker 13: You know, they were gaff laden and disastrous, and I
29:14
Speaker 13: mean this goes some ways to explaining perhaps why eleven thousand.
29:19
Speaker 1: Dollars worth of gin was used.
29:22
Speaker 13: So now we have a clue as to why some
29:26
Speaker 13: of those press performances were so disastrous. But yeah, I
29:28
Speaker 13: mean it just it beggars believe. You know, we once
29:33
Speaker 13: had the RUM core. Now we've got the gin core
29:36
Speaker 13: operating in New South Wales and it's just unbelievable. I
29:39
Speaker 13: just love that expression the most. The gin was used
29:44
Speaker 13: by the Commissioner and her staff, so.
29:46
Speaker 1: You know, make of that what you will.
29:49
Speaker 3: Well, maybe they need it after the year they've had,
29:51
Speaker 3: after the last couple of months, so could begrudge them
29:54
Speaker 3: of that.
29:55
Speaker 2: Now people could be fined more.
29:57
Speaker 3: Than eight hundred thousand dollars if they failed to comply
30:00
Speaker 3: with new standards on lithium iron battery powered.
30:03
Speaker 2: E bikes as well as e scooters.
30:06
Speaker 3: Now this is part of a major crackdown that's apparently
30:09
Speaker 3: tipped to save lives. Look, I think it's about time
30:12
Speaker 3: that there was some sort of standards. There have been
30:14
Speaker 3: so many incidents, particularly over the last few months of
30:18
Speaker 3: incidents with these sorts of batteries. There's been zero regulation
30:22
Speaker 3: to start with. Mark, Are you do you welcome this change?
30:29
Speaker 12: It's very rare that on one to scream out for
30:32
Speaker 12: more regulation. But I can't believe that these people were
30:34
Speaker 12: They were getting away with zero regulation.
30:37
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
30:38
Speaker 12: And just a couple of weeks ago, my city, the
30:40
Speaker 12: city of Yarra, said that they're going to increase these
30:43
Speaker 12: things by forty percent. And I thought the biggest liability
30:45
Speaker 12: for that was, like I nearly took one out. One
30:48
Speaker 12: nearly took me out when I was stepping out of
30:49
Speaker 12: the studio this evening. Because they shoot it around in
30:52
Speaker 12: the city of Melbourne, everywhere, all the major cities.
30:54
Speaker 5: They're flying around everywhere. I thought that was the biggest liability.
30:57
Speaker 12: I didn't realize they were a couple of self destructing
31:00
Speaker 12: in people's homes and combustible. I had no idea this
31:03
Speaker 12: is the thing. Absolutely, I welcome the regulation. It served
31:06
Speaker 12: about time.
31:07
Speaker 1: Well.
31:07
Speaker 3: We kept getting told to go down the pathway of
31:09
Speaker 3: the e bikes and the e scooters, but nobody will
31:12
Speaker 3: ever actually tell you that there are dangers associated with it.
31:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hannahs, do you welcome this as well?
31:19
Speaker 1: I suppose I agree with Mark.
31:21
Speaker 13: One has to welcome any any laws that are going to,
31:25
Speaker 13: you know, try to prevent this sort of thing happening.
31:27
Speaker 13: But it just goes to prove the point so well
31:31
Speaker 13: made so often by Tim Blair, who I'm actually filling
31:34
Speaker 13: in for tonight, and that is nothing green ever works.
31:38
Speaker 13: And it's just another example of that. You know, this
31:41
Speaker 13: is this is the this is the golden age that
31:43
Speaker 13: the brave new world of batteries and lithium I on
31:47
Speaker 13: this and that, and now now they're telling us that
31:49
Speaker 13: they must be charged. You have to supervise the charging
31:54
Speaker 13: of these things, and so presumably you're going to sit
31:56
Speaker 13: there and watch them as they charge, you know, because
31:59
Speaker 13: they're just they're so pro diversing into flame and killing people.
32:04
Speaker 13: It's just unbelievable. It's a bacycle that the whole system
32:08
Speaker 13: isn't stable apparently. I mean, I'm not a chemist, I'm
32:11
Speaker 13: not a physicist, but they tell me that the sort
32:13
Speaker 13: of the whole chemical kind of you know, components going
32:19
Speaker 13: on with lithium. Mind, it's an unstable.
32:23
Speaker 1: Kind of combination to begin with.
32:25
Speaker 13: And they haven't quite worked this out, so it's just
32:28
Speaker 13: going to keep happening.
32:29
Speaker 2: Well, that's it.
32:30
Speaker 3: Look as we said, we it's very strange that we
32:33
Speaker 3: backed something to do with the green Dream, but on
32:35
Speaker 3: this occasion.
32:35
Speaker 2: I probably would say yes, I do.
32:38
Speaker 5: Now.
32:38
Speaker 3: This one baffles me because public service department heads have
32:42
Speaker 3: currently no way of telling how many of their staff
32:45
Speaker 3: work from home each week or how many days they
32:48
Speaker 3: come into the office, with no record system in.
32:51
Speaker 2: Place across any government department.
32:53
Speaker 3: Would you believe in New South Wales this of course
32:55
Speaker 3: comes as Chris Men's ordered public servants back to the
32:58
Speaker 3: office effective and imediately. Mark, So we have a situation
33:02
Speaker 3: where you could have your average John or Jane Rock
33:05
Speaker 3: up in the office one day and you've never seen
33:07
Speaker 3: them in your life because you don't know whether they've
33:09
Speaker 3: been working from home, you don't know how long they've.
33:11
Speaker 2: Been in the company. I just find it extraordinary, Mark,
33:14
Speaker 2: that there is no system. No one knows.
33:19
Speaker 12: It's absurd, and I've got twenty employees and it's really hard.
33:22
Speaker 12: It's like pulling teeth trying to get them to come
33:24
Speaker 12: in into the office. I try and make it fun.
33:26
Speaker 12: I try and make it a fun place to be,
33:28
Speaker 12: but it is. It's really hard to draw people in.
33:30
Speaker 12: And Chris has found himself. He's ruffled a few feathers
33:34
Speaker 12: with this little call. Made a lot of public servants
33:38
Speaker 12: fight up on the zoom call. They're not happy about it.
33:40
Speaker 12: But this is a hangover. This is two and a
33:41
Speaker 12: half years old from COVID, like that was an emergency
33:44
Speaker 12: response that they had back then, and so I think
33:47
Speaker 12: really the best thing we can do is just treat
33:49
Speaker 12: it the same way we treat people who are still
33:51
Speaker 12: wearing masks in public and are going on about getting
33:54
Speaker 12: vaccines and boosters all the time. And that's just to
33:57
Speaker 12: look down on them and bully them and to and
34:00
Speaker 12: to say to these people that are still working at home,
34:02
Speaker 12: get a real job, you know one we have to
34:04
Speaker 12: dress up, put quothes on, get out of the house,
34:06
Speaker 12: talk to people, put a massive man curry in the microwave.
34:09
Speaker 12: Get a real job. It's not real working from home.
34:11
Speaker 12: And for the country, it's better be more productive. It's
34:14
Speaker 12: a good thing.
34:15
Speaker 3: I completely agree. I support it. Go back to work.
34:18
Speaker 3: The pandemic's over. We need people back in the office.
34:21
Speaker 3: Mart Nicholson, you're Hannah Slick, we have to leave it there.
34:23
Speaker 3: Really appreciate you joining me. Thank you so much for
34:25
Speaker 3: your time this evening. Well coming up, we'll head to
34:28
Speaker 3: Paris for the latest on the Olympics. Plus I'll be
34:31
Speaker 3: speaking to Sam Macedoni on proposed legal reforms which could
34:34
Speaker 3: challenge the me Too movement.
34:36
Speaker 2: That's next, Welcome back.
34:41
Speaker 3: Let's head to Paris for an update on our record
34:44
Speaker 3: breaking Australian Olympic team. Joining me now is Fox Sports
34:47
Speaker 3: reporter Luke Doherty.
34:49
Speaker 2: Luke, good to see you. Thank you for joining me.
34:51
Speaker 3: We've seen some record breaking results for Australia overnight.
34:55
Speaker 2: Our best team to date. What can you tell us?
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Speaker 15: Yeah, mark day twelve of competition down as possibly the
35:04
Speaker 15: greatest day in the history of the Australian Olympic team.
35:08
Speaker 15: Seems hyperbole to say, but that's what they have achieved.
35:12
Speaker 15: They've beaten the previous record of seventeen gold that was
35:15
Speaker 15: set in Tokyo three years ago and also in Athens
35:17
Speaker 15: in two thousand and four. They're now on eighteen and
35:20
Speaker 15: there's still four days of competition left as well, so
35:23
Speaker 15: could get even better from here. Let's start at the
35:26
Speaker 15: track of the start de front was their last night
35:28
Speaker 15: to watch Nina Kennedy go through her paces.
35:30
Speaker 5: In the women's pole vault. She jumped four point.
35:32
Speaker 15: Nine zero meters to win a beating her great American
35:35
Speaker 15: rival Katie Moon, who they actually shared gold together at
35:38
Speaker 15: the last World Championships in twenty twenty three.
35:41
Speaker 5: There was no sharing this time.
35:42
Speaker 15: Nina made sure that the gold was going to be
35:45
Speaker 15: all hers. It's Australia's first pole vault gold since the
35:49
Speaker 15: two thousand and eight Beijing Games when Steve Hooker achieved that,
35:53
Speaker 15: and she's the first Australian woman to win pole vault
35:56
Speaker 15: gold as well, so gets her place in the history books.
35:59
Speaker 15: Had all the family there last night, and it was
36:01
Speaker 15: an absolute marathon of around three and a half hours
36:05
Speaker 15: of competition as well multiple stops. Even the poles malfunctioned
36:10
Speaker 15: at one stage had to go and get someone to
36:12
Speaker 15: try and fix that. So the mental guess strength that
36:15
Speaker 15: she showed throughout the course of that three hour journey
36:18
Speaker 15: simply incredible.
36:19
Speaker 5: We also had gold and the men's.
36:20
Speaker 15: Skate park Keegan Palmer defending the gold that he won
36:24
Speaker 15: from Tokyo three years ago and also backing up fourteen
36:27
Speaker 15: year old Arissa true's gold just a day prior to
36:30
Speaker 15: that in the women's park as well.
36:33
Speaker 5: He's a passionate skater.
36:34
Speaker 15: Overcame some injuries to get here as well to his knees.
36:37
Speaker 15: Now was to improve some skat infrastructure on the Gold
36:40
Speaker 15: Coast and hoping that his victory does that. We caught
36:42
Speaker 15: up with Keegan after his gold medal win.
36:45
Speaker 16: I know it's an absolute honor, you know, just being
36:47
Speaker 16: able to be a part of that crew that was
36:49
Speaker 16: able to beat the world record for us, you know
36:51
Speaker 16: with eighteen is it really doesn't get much better, you know.
36:54
Speaker 16: And Australia is where I learn how to walk, talk, skate,
36:57
Speaker 16: surf to everything I know how to do. So and
37:00
Speaker 16: Swel also represent Australia's because that's where it all went
37:03
Speaker 16: down for me. So they deserve to have a gold
37:05
Speaker 16: medal comeback for this stuff.
37:06
Speaker 5: They've given me gold too.
37:09
Speaker 15: For Australia's men's team Purshuot at the Vela Drome. They
37:12
Speaker 15: actually broke the world record with their first ride at
37:15
Speaker 15: these Games, so any hope of going under the raidar
37:18
Speaker 15: well and truly blown apart.
37:20
Speaker 5: After that it was the Ashes on wheels they beat
37:22
Speaker 5: Great Britain.
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Speaker 15: In the final to win gold for the first time
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Speaker 15: since Athens two thousand and four, now three years ago.
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Speaker 15: In Tokyo, this squad hit the headlines for all of
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Speaker 15: the wrong reasons when one of their riders broke their
37:34
Speaker 15: handlebars mid race. It prompted an absolute forensic investigation from
37:39
Speaker 15: top to bottom within Australian cycling as to how a
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Speaker 15: piece of equipment as simple as that malfunction. They still
37:45
Speaker 15: went on to win bronze, but they knew they were
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Speaker 15: capable of more and that was the crowning glory for them.
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Speaker 5: Yesterday at the Vela Drome.
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Speaker 17: My coach saw me something nice after we broke the
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Speaker 17: world record. He said, world record gold medals last favor,
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Speaker 17: but world records don't. So we've got to come out
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Speaker 17: tomorrow and win that race. So yeah, trying to keep
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Speaker 17: us locked in a.
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Speaker 2: Bit amazing to hear.
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Speaker 3: It's been a fantastic Olympics so far for the Aussies,
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Speaker 3: but unfortunately, Luke, it hasn't all been celebrations. With hockey
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Speaker 3: player Tom Craig apologizing after he was arrested for allegedly
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Speaker 3: trying to buy cocaine.
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Speaker 2: This was him speaking earlier on I.
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Speaker 5: Made a terrible mistake. I take full responsibility for my actions, Luke.
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Speaker 3: It certainly soured the celebrations of today.
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Speaker 5: Yeah indeed.
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Speaker 15: I mean this one happened before the gold Rush actually
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Speaker 15: took place, and it was the first real incident involving
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Speaker 15: any athlete, almost off the field. It just happened to
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Speaker 15: be in Australian So it happened just hours after a
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Speaker 15: function for Hockey Australia. Both the men's and women's signs
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Speaker 15: went out in the quarter finals. There was a family
38:52
Speaker 15: and friends function and then it's after that that French
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Speaker 15: police alleged that they saw Tom trying to buy cocaine,
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Speaker 15: spent eighteen hours in lock up and emerged like you
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Speaker 15: saw there, sore and sorry. Not invited out to the
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Speaker 15: opening ceremony. It's our understanding he wasn't going to attend
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Speaker 15: that anyway. Let off without a fine, just a warning,
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Speaker 15: no conviction either, but Hockey Australia will commence a disciplinary
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Speaker 15: proceeding as well. And we've just had DONEKHA. In the
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Speaker 15: last couple of minutes. Another silver added to our tally
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Speaker 15: as well, with Moisha Johnson winning silver in the women's
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Speaker 15: ten kilometer marathon open Water swimming just behind me here
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Speaker 15: in the center of the foot of the Eiffel Tower.
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Speaker 3: How good is that? That's great to hear, Luke Doherty.
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Speaker 3: Really appreciate you joining us. Thank you well. The Me
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Speaker 3: Too movement has destroyed many lives and livelihoods in recent years.
39:43
Speaker 3: I look no further than what happened to the former
39:45
Speaker 3: Coalition government under Scott Morrison after Britney Higgins alleged she
39:49
Speaker 3: had been raped at Parliament House. The Me Too brigade
39:52
Speaker 3: descended into a political movement. Now, Australia's peak legal body,
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Speaker 3: the Law Council, is challenging a movement to read shape
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Speaker 3: the administration of rape trials in the wake of me too,
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Speaker 3: declaring that the presumption of innocence and the rule of
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Speaker 3: law must remain intact. Joining me now is Sam Macedoni,
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Speaker 3: whose principle at Macedoni Legal.
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Speaker 2: Sam, great to see you, thank.
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Speaker 3: You for joining me. So break it down for us.
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Speaker 3: What does the Law Counsel want to do here?
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Speaker 11: Look, the Law Council basically wants things to remain the
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Speaker 11: way they are. I mean, the presumption of innocence, they say,
40:26
Speaker 11: is sacricent. It must stay. Our trial being fair has
40:31
Speaker 11: got to be the case. The prosecution has to prove
40:34
Speaker 11: its case beyond a reasonable doubt. The right to silence
40:38
Speaker 11: has to say. All of these things are the cornerstones
40:40
Speaker 11: of our legal system. They're the basic foundations that have
40:44
Speaker 11: been there for hundreds of years. They have to remain. Yes,
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Speaker 11: there are some changes that can be made to assist
40:51
Speaker 11: complainants in relation to how matters come before the court,
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Speaker 11: to assist them in making their complaint, but the basic
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Speaker 11: rights of the accused a responsibility in our legal system
41:02
Speaker 11: to make sure that they get a fair trial, because
41:04
Speaker 11: there is nothing worse than having an innocent person who
41:08
Speaker 11: or she gave to jail for something that they didn't do.
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Speaker 11: And that's why we have these cornerstone aspects. We've got
41:15
Speaker 11: to have those things in place, and law counsel says,
41:18
Speaker 11: don't change those You can change other things how we
41:21
Speaker 11: approach them, like questioning of victims. Yes, we can refine
41:25
Speaker 11: all that, but the basic fundamental principles must remain.
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Speaker 2: Which makes total sense.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we have to even speak about it. Really, it
41:33
Speaker 3: is quite strange. Now, look on the other side of
41:36
Speaker 3: the country. Let's talk about Linda Reynolds defamation case, which
41:39
Speaker 3: is taking place in Perth against Britty Higgins and David
41:42
Speaker 3: Shatters Course. Senator Reynolds has been on the stand now
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Speaker 3: for the last few days.
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Speaker 2: What are the key takeaways in your view?
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Speaker 11: Look, what she is saying is that she has been
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Speaker 11: defained by various texts and messages that have been printed
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Speaker 11: by Higgins and her boyfriend. They're untrue, tend to indicate
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Speaker 11: that she was a bit of a bully, that she
42:03
Speaker 11: was trying to cover up what happened, that she denied
42:06
Speaker 11: that Higgins was raped, all of which Reynold says are untrue,
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Speaker 11: totally untrue, and she's had to take she says, she's
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Speaker 11: had to take this action for defamation to stop these
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Speaker 11: things happening because she resembled one of those punching clowns
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Speaker 11: at the circus where you get punched, to fall down,
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Speaker 11: you get up, you get punched again. She said, it
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Speaker 11: never ends, It just kept going, and you know, she's
42:31
Speaker 11: been defamed. Her mental health has been affected, her career
42:34
Speaker 11: has been affected. So she has to do something about it.
42:38
Speaker 11: And let's face it, she's fed income about it because
42:41
Speaker 11: she's mortgaged her house and sped all the money, all
42:43
Speaker 11: the money she's got to run these proceedings. So she's
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Speaker 11: quite adamant that, you know, she's been defamed by these
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Speaker 11: by these text messages. On the other hand, Higgins says, look,
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Speaker 11: they're all true and apart from that, they're things that
42:57
Speaker 11: the public should know about. They're in the public is
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Speaker 11: that they be informed of what's been going on. So
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Speaker 11: it's an interesting case. But again I don't think anyone's
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Speaker 11: going to win.
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Speaker 2: We're about out of time.
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Speaker 3: I just want to ask you, will Britney Higgins and
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Speaker 3: David Churis have to come to Australia for this.
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 11: Yes, Higgins will have to give evidence.
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Speaker 3: Okay, was fascinating again, Sam Macedoni, good to have you on.
43:19
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for Jogi for coming up. Thousands
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Speaker 3: of pro migration rally has gathered gather in solidarity with
43:26
Speaker 3: migrants across the UK after a week of violence and disorder.
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Speaker 2: That's next.
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Speaker 3: Let's head to the UK now for the latest on
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Speaker 3: the riots. And it's not just the apparent far right
43:39
Speaker 3: or anti immigration protests. Days after crowds of people of
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Speaker 3: Muslim appearance ran riot, thousands of counter protesters have now
43:47
Speaker 3: flooded the streets, mostly peaceful, though with banners such as
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Speaker 3: fight racism, stop the far right, and trade races for refugees.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now from London is former Foreign Minister Alexander Downer. Alexander,
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Speaker 3: thank you for joining us. You're in the UK, How
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Speaker 3: would you describe what's been happening over there?
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Speaker 18: Well, first of all, I wouldn't exaggerate it, because you
44:10
Speaker 18: can walk around the streets of the UK and they're
44:13
Speaker 18: just as they normally are, except in the isolated locations.
44:17
Speaker 18: So it's important to have a sense of perspective here.
44:20
Speaker 18: But secondly, the public of course generally speaking of poor
44:26
Speaker 18: any violence, and there has been some violence, some acts
44:30
Speaker 18: of violence. But on the other hand, there is a
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Speaker 18: deep concern about immigration in the UK, not immigration per se,
44:39
Speaker 18: but the volume of immigration, and in particularly legal immigration,
44:45
Speaker 18: and the failure of some migrants to integrate into British society.
44:49
Speaker 18: I mean, obviously many do integrate, but some of them
44:53
Speaker 18: do not integrate and live in enclaves and enclaves which
44:58
Speaker 18: are dissociated from the rest of them country, and this
45:01
Speaker 18: breeds not only alienation for those people, but resentment amongst
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Speaker 18: the rest of the communities. So bad handling of immigration
45:12
Speaker 18: has led to a lot of bad feeling in this
45:14
Speaker 18: country and some of that has recently spilled over.
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Speaker 3: Well, it seems like it's been a pressure corker situation.
45:20
Speaker 3: It's been bubbling underground for some time and the UK
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Speaker 3: Labor government has been quite strong in condemning far right protests.
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Speaker 3: Yet the other day Kirstarma tweeted, well, we will not
45:32
Speaker 3: tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities, as Elon
45:36
Speaker 3: Musk pointed out, well why not all communities.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of the way the Labor government
45:41
Speaker 2: has responded.
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Speaker 18: To this, Well, they've only been in office for four weeks,
45:46
Speaker 18: so it's hard to make any judgments about them in
45:49
Speaker 18: all honesty. I mean, obviously they're going to come out
45:52
Speaker 18: and condemn acts of violence, and they will say, as
45:57
Speaker 18: they probably should, that peaceful procept protests, as long as
46:01
Speaker 18: they're not too disruptive, perfectly, perfectly legitimate part of a democracy.
46:06
Speaker 18: But I mean they've quite rightly been condemning acts of violence,
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Speaker 18: burning of buildings, attacking police cars, hurling missiles at the
46:15
Speaker 18: police and so on. I mean they're quite rightly being condemning.
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Speaker 18: I mean, it's not so much to do with the
46:22
Speaker 18: new government in the UK, but over some years, there's
46:26
Speaker 18: been an argument in the UK that police are too
46:29
Speaker 18: it's two tiered policing. That the police will tolerate protests
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Speaker 18: which are left wing protests like the Black Lives Matter
46:39
Speaker 18: protests and just stop oil protests in ways that they
46:44
Speaker 18: won't where they're a right wing protests against illegal immigration.
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Speaker 18: That's pretty hard to prove, and the police definitely deny
46:53
Speaker 18: that's the case. But in any case, I wouldn't at
46:58
Speaker 18: this stage make too much of a judgment about the
47:01
Speaker 18: new government to be entirely fair.
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Speaker 2: No fair enough. Look, let's head to the US.
47:06
Speaker 3: Now, what do you make of Tim Waltz's Kamala Harris's
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Speaker 3: vice presidential pick. Donald Trump has claimed he's thrilled because
47:13
Speaker 3: he thinks that Waltz is shocking.
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Speaker 18: What's your take, Well, in America, the rhetoric of party
47:23
Speaker 18: politics is, let's face it, pretty extreme. I'm not sure
47:26
Speaker 18: that it's shocking, I think. But for the Republicans, their
47:33
Speaker 18: campaign is going to be that both a combination of walls,
47:38
Speaker 18: but also more importantly, Kamala Harris a dangerous left wingers
47:44
Speaker 18: there as they would say in America, they're dangerous liberals,
47:48
Speaker 18: and definitely they do both have a record for policies
47:53
Speaker 18: and woke approaches to a variety of different issues, and
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Speaker 18: that's going to be the target of the Republican campaign.
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Speaker 18: I would say, well, is an uninteresting and unexciting candidate.
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Speaker 18: I mean, apart from people who live in Minnesota, people
48:10
Speaker 18: generally wouldn't have even heard of him or thought about him.
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Speaker 18: Probably the governor of Pennsylvania Shapiro would have been a
48:20
Speaker 18: better vice presidential candidate. But Kamala has has also chosen
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Speaker 18: somebody she's personally friendly with, and so that's obviously got
48:29
Speaker 18: to be a factor.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely think that, Alexander down Unfortunately, we've run
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Speaker 3: out of time.
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Speaker 2: Really appreciate you joining us.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and that is all we've got
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Speaker 3: time for today. Chris Kenny will be back though next Monday.
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Speaker 3: Stay tuned. Peter Kredlin is up next.