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Mike Palm from Circa Sports, Bill Seals talks Cyclones & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Miller Condon coming up on 1:30 on a Friday.
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How many more of these before we get to a Football Friday?
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Well do we count pre season? Yes, whatever it takes.
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Well, what's that first week in August?
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Uh huh. So we got 2 more left here in
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May. Yeah, so about 10. 6, maybe
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11/10/11, We're getting close there.
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Are it's been better? Don't wish away my summer over
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there, Miller. OK, but.
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I am. Let's get to Bill Seals.
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We shortchanged him timing wise yesterday.
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Wanted to make that up to him and Bill joins us.
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Bill Trenton, Kent, cyclonereport.com for Bill
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Seals, part of the Rivals network.
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Bill, good to talk to you. I guess I'm going to start with
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you is and we wouldn't have had this part of the conversation
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yesterday. As we just found out today,
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Wendy Winterstein, the president of Iowa State is going to retire
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in 2026. Trent and I kind of batted
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around a little bit does what she's meant to the athletic
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program by all accounts, Bill. And if you're, you know, a fan
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of sports at your university, you want sports to matter.
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And they apparently due to Wendy Winterstein.
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I would think that Jamie Pollard would be would consider her an
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ally. And that's not always the case,
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is it? Well, no, I, yeah, I think the,
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the connection with those two working relationships been
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wonderful. I mean, I, I think that I, I
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don't know if there were any inklings that she was going to
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retire because the, with with Pollard extending his contract
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and you've got now Osselberger Campbell on for the long term.
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What through a 2032. I, I wonder maybe if they were
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were counting on working with Wendy Winters team for most of
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those years. So I, I question maybe if if
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anybody knew about this outside of her, her circle.
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So yeah, he's been great for the athletic department and you
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know, really even for for some of his warts, I obviously not
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knowing how to fly a plane real well.
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Steve Lee. Other than.
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That athletically though, I think at least was also very
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good for athletics at Iowa State.
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So they're on a, they're on a little bit of a roll here in, in
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hiring presidents that have been a lot more friendly, I think to
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ISU athletics and maybe some of those in the 70s and 80s were.
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So we'll we'll just have to see how this search goes.
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But yeah, I think athletics, they've got to find someone that
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prioritizes that. Help a foreigner out here you 2
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What? Who gets to sit on?
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Is it a committee that hires will hire the next Board of
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Regents? It's a Board of Regents.
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So is there is this comprised of any former athletes, student
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athletes? Are these all business people,
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bottom line? Mostly all business people that
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are on that Board of Regents. So yeah, I would imagine they're
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probably going to spearhead the the search on, on this and and
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handle most of that. I don't know if they'll set up
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some kind of committee or or how that really works.
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So when we look at that and we look at Jamie Pollard recently
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has been talking about the situation, I don't want to say
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dire because that's not fair, but there are concerns about the
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viability of financially where it is.
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Don't believe us? Listen to him.
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Absolutely. He's been saying as much.
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When do you hear those comments? When do you hear what Jamie
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Pollard is saying? Is it trying to get the fan base
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round up and get those coffers open up?
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How do you read into it and does it leave you concerned when you
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look at the future of Iowa State athletics?
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Well, I think they're already taking the, the steps necessary
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to try and get it as much as they, they can out of the fan
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base. But you know, after a while you
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just wonder if it, if it gets to be tapped out to an extent that,
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you know, they rose the, I think the ticket prices that the sales
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tax wasn't included or was included before.
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Now it's an added charge. So they, I think they gained
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what about 7:00, what, 7% on, on season tickets more than what
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they did the year before that raised the donation levels.
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And you know, now's the time to do it.
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Gosh, if you're Jamie Pollard, you've got football that's
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coming off the season. It had basketball's been
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tremendous women's basketball on the programs.
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They're doing very, very well And and the, the APR scores are
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great. So now's a great time to do
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that. But I, I, you wonder what some
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of the of Pollard's comments, maybe if he's angling for a
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larger piece and he talks a lot about what Arizona State had
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with the endowment or whatever you want to call it from the,
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the state of Arizona and, and supplementing the budget for the
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athletic department there. And you wonder maybe if he's
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angling for some money from the state in a way to help
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subsidized the Iowa State athletics program.
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Because it it, it's after a point, though, it's going to be
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a lot of money to get think you're going to get out of Iowa
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State fans on an annual basis. If you got to add, what, 20 to
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$25 million to the budget, that's probably a lot to ask of
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Iowa State fans. I think it's maybe a a bigger
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source of revenue that he's angling for.
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I did see some fans not not happy that she's retiring, but
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wonder. I guess put it this way, they're
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more so wondering if it it opens up more of a pathway to serving
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beer at at the athletic event. I I still think Pollard's the
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roadblock there, don't you? Well, yeah, I think Pollard,
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I'm, I'm not sure Wendy Winterstein was was a fan of of
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that either. But yeah, I think it, it's a
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Pollard, a very public opponent of doing beer sales at Jack
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Trice Stadium. I think that's going to continue
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to be the case. Over to football recruiting,
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that's going to be heating up here pretty soon.
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But I did see on Rivals an article last week from your
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guys's Auburn site. Evan Jacobson was there a little
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bit. He's got an official set up.
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Evan from Waukee just took an official visit to Stanford.
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That certainly opens your eyes. Dad has doctor in front of his
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name. That's another part Notre Dame,
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Florida State, Auburn, Texas A&M, Stanford, those are the
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official visits that he has set up.
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He's taking a taking a ton of visits to Iowa State.
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Does it feel like the shift is moved on from ISU or is there
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still hope in Cycloneville? Well, I think there's still
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hope. I, I've been, I, I've known Evan
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for a long time. My, my son and him used to play
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baseball against each other years ago.
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So yeah, we, we go back a few years, great kid.
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And he's going to make a, he's going to make a great decision.
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I'm sure that that is best for him.
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But yeah, I, I have been texting with him a little bit to here in
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the last couple days. He did tell me he's still
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playing, planning to take an official to Iowa State.
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That's going to be one of those. It's going to be a midweek 1
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though, won't be on the weekends when they're getting a lot of
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kids in, but your kids can take 10 of those now instead of five
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that you saw a couple years ago. So he's going to use a lot of
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those and it's going to be a midweek visit in the first
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couple weeks of June. So still expect him in another
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one that I reported on too. Now that we're on the topic of
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tight ends, that Kevin Sullivan, he was another one that I kind
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of thought maybe the Iowa State was out on, but good news for
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Cyclone fans with him. He's going to be coming in on an
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official as well. He's out of Kansas City,
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Rockhurst High School. So another Midwest kid.
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This Midwest is loaded with the tight ends this year.
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Gosh, it's incredible the number of of kids that play that
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position out of that. Well, Campbell calls it the six
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hour radius. Well, you take a six hour radius
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from Ames and you're looking at probably 10 to 15 teen kids at
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least right now that are going to go play power for football
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that are tight end. That's incredible.
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That is the Adam Gorney who works as part of Rivals.
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Let's get to the jet. Tamala, which I don't think
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anyone could view this as positive news.
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That seemed like Tamala was very high on Iowa State.
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In fact, he'd committed. But all of a sudden, here comes
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Alabama. Now, Alabama came in late for
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Brock Purdy. We know how that turned out, but
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Tamala Alabama's in early on on this kid.
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What's the likelihood that Tamala holds his commitment to
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the clones, with Alabama potentially kicking the tires
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and and making him a part of the Crimson Tide?
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Yeah, well, it's, it's certainly is an is a good question, Kenny.
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I think it's, it's probably going to depend on how the the
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visit goes down there. Gorni did that report here a
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short time ago on the Alabama premium message board that
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Tamala is planning to visit down there at some point.
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So he would to an extent be opening up his recruitment to to
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go down there on a visit to ball class.
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You you always I think the first thing you look at as well.
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So they have any other quarterbacks committed.
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They do not in 2026. You go back to these schools
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too. They they hit the portal so hard
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at that level anymore. It's they, they plug holes that
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way. But you do go back to Alabama's
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class of 2025. They did bring in one
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quarterback there, Keelan Russell, a kid out of Texas that
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was a four-star. But you got to imagine the
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pipeline there is going to be loaded It.
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It was interesting. There's just a little subtleties
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that US reporting guy recruiting guys catch on to.
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Well, a short time after Tamala tweeted out his offer from
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Alabama yesterday that Alabama had also offered another kid and
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another 2026 quarterback, well, Iowa State's quarterbacks coach
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Jake Waters retweeted. That it was.
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Sure that everybody in Jet Tamala's camp saw that.
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You know, Jet is not the sole focus of Alabama's 2026
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quarterback recruiting when they offered a couple kids and in one
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day and who knows what the next couple weeks will hold.
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Whereas Iowa State has kind of has made him long a priority for
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this class and got him in the fold pretty early.
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Speaking of guys that they're looking at, Jaden Kuhn on the
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basketball front, commits to Creighton had an Iowa offer, he
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had an Iowa State offer. Where were the Cyclones sitting?
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We heard earlier from Tom Cacard.
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Felt like kind of a less last couple of weeks it was trending
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towards the Blue Jays. Anything from the Cyclone front?
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Did they feel like they had a good shot at Coon?
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Yeah, I he he was not one that they really focused on, to be
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honest with you. It was a really early offer, but
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I'm not sure that that was a committable offer.
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Per Southeast, Iowa State shifted its focus to to to a few
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different kids in that 2026 class.
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Now a lot, a lot of these a lot of these kids in that that 2026
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are out on the the spring and summer circuit and picking up a
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lot of offers and, and still kind of dragging things out.
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So that was kind of interesting maybe to an extent that he
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committed at this point when we're right in the middle of
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what the EYBL and three SSB and the Nike, Adidas, Under Armour,
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all that stuff's going on. Iowa State does have a couple of
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early commits in 2026 at the guard position.
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They've offered some in in the like the small forward, that
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position range for Iowa State. Jack Conan would fit that would
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fit that bill. He's one that they're looking
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out out of Wisconsin. So they they've seem to
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prioritize other ones though. But yeah, I think if they would
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have pushed for him, they probably would have gotten him
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even even before now. You, you, you factor in the
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coaching change in Iowa. I think if Iowa State wanted
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them and pushed really hard, kind of with the trans position
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there, they probably could have gotten him.
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Definitely stability. Iowa State has a big step up on
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that one and we know change is also coming over there in Omaha
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as Greg McDermott will be hanging it up here pretty soon,
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though Huss makes his way over to take over in that role when
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he does eventually retire. One more for you and Bill.
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This is something on the basketball front.
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I've heard a lot more on the women's side, but you would do
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in the recruiting that you do. I've heard that this class of
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2026, there are so many kids that aren't committing.
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And when we get to kind of commitment time this summer,
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maybe you're not going to get the same kind of level of
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commitment that we have because we're still waiting.
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What is going to be handed down with the NCAA?
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What's going to happen as it pertains to the financial part
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of that? You guys are rivals.
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Are you hearing something similar that maybe the the
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timeline is going to be changing this summer for a lot of
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prospects? Yeah, are are are you referring
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to football, basketball or both? Basketball was the one that I
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heard mostly, but I do wonder if that'll also trickle down to the
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football side of things or well, you know what, football,
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everybody's going to be fully invested, so maybe it won't hit
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football. Well, I think that that I that T
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JS made it very clear that the high high school's going to
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continue to be a priority for them.
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Iowa State, I think that's as you know, as as an A's fan like
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I am, maybe that's the moneyball approach for for Iowa State
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right now to use that term. They're they're going to go
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there as probably a lot cheaper to to when you you're recruiting
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high school kids versus trying to go out and and outbid
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somebody else in the transfer portal market for somebody next
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next March. So they're going to and that's
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that's T JS thing too. That's what made him such a
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great assistant when he was working his way up through the
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ranks. He was the high school guy and
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that all the connections and Wisconsin, Iowa State's done
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great there. They've already got two kids on
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board in 2026. Heck, they've even got Josiah
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Harrington in the 2027 class from the Eastern Iowa committed
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as a as a a sophomore. So, yeah, I mean, he's going to
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continue to prioritize perhaps. I think maybe the one exception
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will be the posts. Iowa State's tended to go to the
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portal for those kids. And then in the Big 12, you need
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you need grown men that are 2223 years old.
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And, you know, I don't think maybe they're going to develop
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as many of those post guys. They'll continue to go to the
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portal and see what works there. And you know, football too, if
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we hit on in on that real quick, I think they they've done
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continue to do a great job in getting they always got to
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rework for kids, it seems like. Well, Iowa State's got what, 13,
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I think last time I I checked 13 committed, which is a huge
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amount really when you compare it to other other schools out
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there. Kansas, you look real close at
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them. They're another one of those.
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It's locked up a lot of kids early.
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But on the other hand, you're in the combine season right now
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too. And as you're seeing, a lot of
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them are, are getting offers a couple other Iowa State commits.
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It's not just Jet Braden Thomas, one of the safeties, he's going
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to go visit Michigan State. Daniel Howard out of Chicago,
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also Michigan State with him. I think he's gotten a couple
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other ones. So that's kind of the one of the
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perils of locking up a lot of that class so early is now
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you've got to re recruit them and you got to do it in the
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middle of high school spring combine season.
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Bill Seals cyclonereport.com Keep up to date on all the
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recruiting news, etcetera cyclonereport.com Part of
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Rivals. And congratulations to Connor.
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Your son graduate in high school today.
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Yeah, we got to meet him last year.
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Nice young man. And moving on to Grandview,
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right? Yeah, he's going to go play.
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He's got some scholarship money to go play tennis there.
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So pretty exciting. He's going to be close to home
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with that. Kind of funny how things work.
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He plays baseball. Well, he'll he'll still be on
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the team this year. So Trent, you come out, call
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some games, they'll be he'll be around playing out the the
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senior season and then turn the focus to sports management on
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the academic side and then playing some tennis.
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And take over for dad at cycle and report.
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There you go. You never know, right?
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Maybe. Maybe he'll pick something that
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pays a little better. Thank you, Bill.
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Again, apologize for yesterday that made it up to you here
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today. Thank you, buddy.
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Talk to you next week. Thanks.
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Yup, see ya Bill Seals cycle report.
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Good for him son. Graduating little scholarship.
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Yeah, absolutely is. Big kid, big kid.
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I bet his forehand is. Wrong.
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Absolutely. Melory Condon, Transplays of the
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That's next. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
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Our final segment for the week. When does your high school
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baseball coverage start? Next week either yeah, Thursday
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or Friday, kind of looking at the schedule, trying to map
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things out. Summer's a little tighter than
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they have in the past with 10 you softball.
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We got T-ball with young Jack, so trying to find and those
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pockets that work scheduling wise for me.
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But yeah, either Thursday or Friday.
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Next week is when we'll kick things off as the seasons begin
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and also well going to do a couple softball games also this
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summer. Why wouldn't you?
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Yes of course. Get out there and maybe I'll
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have a new Stack girl that'll come along with me and young
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Ella. We'll teach her how to keep book
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for the old man so we can do 1 less thing.
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I love it. All right, let's get to your
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Illinois as well. What are you betting?
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We have 4 picks for tonight. Let's start.
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I'm grabbing Boston, you know, and as I thought about it a
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little bit deeper right before we came on, if it's close, the
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Knicks are going to win. So if you're going to take
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Boston, why don't I just grab the money line?
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I now I have 2 1/2 year. I officially, I took it earlier.
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You can get about plus 1:25-ish on the Celtics.
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I just. I don't think that 2 1/2's going
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to matter. I think either Boston's going to
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win it outright or the Knicks are going to win relatively
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comfortably. 7810 points, something like that.
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I'd. Love to see a Game 7 but I want
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to see the Knicks. I know.
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It's kind of a basket both sides argument.
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Although I'm not sure the the Pacers may have something to say
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We'll. Get ahead of ourselves.
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I'm right there with you. I think that's going to be a
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tremendous series 3 baseball plays tonight.
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Let's open up. Made a lot of money last year on
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our boy Francis. I'm not making much money on him
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this year. No, he's been brutal.
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So we're going to go the other way.
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Jack Flaherty, another guy that you don't like.
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Yeah, been a big. Fan now.
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He has been very good himself. 4.61 ERA, one in five record.
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I guess I'll go with Flaherty and live the -115 there.
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Give me the Nationals. They're looking to bounce back
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against the Orioles, who are looking to bounce back.
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Two teams going in the wrong direction.
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I'll just take the better picture.
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Mackenzie Gore's so much better than Povich, so we'll jump on
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that one. Nationals plus 110 and then one
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more tonight. Never bet against the streak
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unless it's your team. Give me the Brewers tonight. 11
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game-winning streak for my Minnesota Twins.
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The collision. Maybe it's just the bad vibes
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that I normally have. Joe Ryan.
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Joe Ryan against Patrick, it's advantage.
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Minnesota bullpen double header 2 days ago, then had the weird
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game yesterday. We'll take the Brewers.
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The Cubs trail the White Sox 2 zip in the second inning.
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The Cubbies do have runners at second and third.
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One out. Kate Horton gave up A2 run home
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run in the first inning. So we'll see if the well just
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got another out. So we'll see where it goes.
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Anyways, we know we're going to go on out of here and turn
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things over to the drive that's coming up with Heather and
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Lucas. They take you until 5:00
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overtime Iowa at that point. Appreciate you being with us
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here. Trent and I talk sports with
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you. Miller Condon, welcome back.
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Hour number two of our program. We're here until 2.
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Coming up back to the drive, Heather and Lucas take you until
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5. Overtime Iowa.
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At that point, bottom of the hour.
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Bill Seals will join us. cyclonereport.com.
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Trent will make his plays of the week or weekend.
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Circa sports sponsor those. Speaking of Circa, the VP of
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operations, Mike Palm joins us. Mike, Trent and Ken, thanks for
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coming on. How are you?
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Oh, not too bad here watching the the the Black Eyed Jewson
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undercard here on the book. We got it all on and and about
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to get ready for White Sox and Cubs.
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Yeah, it's a big day, no doubt, in the winds blowing out it.
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Wrigley feels that, and the total is correspondingly huge.
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I mean, it's what, 11 1/2? I think right now.
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A lot of runs going to be scored on the North side, Mike.
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Yeah, it should be a fun day at the ballpark for everyone.
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Involved, no doubt about it, a lot of ground to cover with you.
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I want to start with the NFL schedule coming out and what
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says seemingly another level or another layer rather of when the
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schedule comes out. Everybody does their own thing.
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Now, one of my things, and I think I speak for a lot of
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people, is going to Thanksgiving and going to Christmas when it
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comes to Circus Survivor. That's what this contest is
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meant in the space that it's carved up in the sports
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landscape. What are you guys going to do
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when it comes to Christmas with all the teams repeating both
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Thanksgiving and Christmas Day? There's no games between.
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You will get a game on Saturday and then of course on Sunday.
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Have you figured out what you're going to do with Week 17 yet?
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We're taking a meeting at 4:30 this afternoon, Pacific Time,
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Jeff Benson, myself and Derek, and talking through that very
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question. I'd be surprised if we do
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something different. I just, it just makes it harder
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having the same team repeat on those two holidays.
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But I'm not sure that we do anything out of what we have
21:43
done before. Christmas Day is its own region
21:47
and and Thanksgiving, the Black Friday, is its own week.
21:51
So there is a Saturday game, the 27th, but I have not seen
21:56
confirmation if it's just one single game.
21:58
It's Peacock's getting an exclusive game.
22:00
It'll be on Saturday the 27th of December that is out there.
22:03
Have you guys heard are they planning multiple games as
22:06
they've done plenty of times in the past on that Saturday or is
22:09
it just going to be 1 game? We assume that there's going to
22:13
be two games. OK, we.
22:15
Just. Have 3, but we don't know who,
22:18
who, who are they flexing and and how soon are they going to
22:20
let him know? Obviously that's very important
22:23
that that needs to be known before, you know, it would help
22:30
obviously for everyone when they're in context of goods like
22:32
that. As you think back to these
22:34
contests over the last couple of years, a week out from making
22:37
it, everybody know what the guarantees are going to be, Are
22:40
there any rule changes etcetera. Do you sense more buzz for this
22:44
year, Mike, or is that kind of the same?
22:48
I think it's about the same. I think the big leap that we
22:54
made from 9 to 14 sort of gives people a better idea of what the
22:59
range is. I don't think people do too far
23:03
off on their guesses, although I've had drivers with people
23:06
come up with the wrong answers. So I think people just look
23:11
forward to the announcements and hope maybe there's something new
23:14
or some new wrinkle, and in less than a week's time, everybody
23:17
will. Mike, we earlier this week went
23:20
down the rabbit hole. We were talking about the NFL
23:23
schedule release and then wind it up on coach of the year, who
23:26
the coach of the year is going to be kind of A2 parter here for
23:29
you. Those kind of award markets very
23:32
difficult for coach of the year because it's not the best coach.
23:35
It's usually a coach that kind of comes out of nowhere and gets
23:37
his team into the playoffs. And and secondly, do you find
23:40
value in that? Does that have to be NFL just in
23:42
general when we're talking about not MVPS but kind of that next
23:45
tier of awards for different sports?
23:49
They're tough to book, Trent. I mean, you, you put this coach
23:53
of the year market up right now and there's not much varying
23:56
about who you're going to put up there.
23:59
Now, if you think somebody's team is really bad, you can make
24:01
their odds a little longer, but to the point of a team taking a
24:06
step forward and then based off expectations and is somebody
24:10
going to, you know, win 13 games but they can't win it because
24:13
they're expected to. And they do that every year.
24:15
I mean, there really can't be that much variance at the start
24:19
of the year on that kind of a market, which makes it would
24:23
make, you know, if you're good at it, there's more value.
24:26
But as a bookmaker, it's really tough.
24:29
Mike Pom, VP of Operation Circus Sports joins us.
24:32
Mike, I want to switch to golf for a second.
24:34
Obviously it's kind of an apples to oranges question because the
24:37
Masters is up so far in advance of the Masters, but I got to
24:40
think that the pre tournament handle right on the Masters is
24:47
that are multiple times X times more than it would be on the
24:51
PGA. Just I don't know if it's a lack
24:53
of buzz around this one. I mean, I love it.
24:55
I love the blades on the calendar as opposed to August,
24:58
but how big of a difference is it?
24:59
Round one pre Round 1 masters to PGA?
25:04
Well, it's no comparison. It's like just like saying what
25:09
a Monday Night Football game would be compared to a Tuesday
25:12
night Max game. It's just it's not close.
25:16
And I was interested to see overall with what and when we
25:20
wrap things up Sunday, what our handle was on on the PGA.
25:23
And did it grow from last year because of how great the Masters
25:27
was? I'm not sure it's going to, and
25:30
the fact that maybe some of the the bigger names are up, not up
25:34
near the leaderboard is really not helping the end game action.
25:38
These bad names, I mean, how impactful is it for PGA if we
25:43
had Rory up there and the rest of the leaderboard's the same,
25:46
but just say, what are those monster names?
25:48
How big of a difference would that make here for the PGA over
25:51
the weekend? It would make a big difference.
25:54
You might see two or three times the right, I mean, Bryce and
25:57
three under Bryce and three under.
25:59
So that's the saving grace there.
26:01
But you know, Rory Scotty, if they're not really in the hunt,
26:07
if they're 10-12 shots back, that really that really kills
26:11
the action on especially tomorrow on Saturday.
26:15
The the turn of the first round tournament leader got by the
26:18
name of Ryan Gerard. I know you guys offer leader
26:21
after the first after the first round did was there What was do
26:24
you remember what his number was?
26:26
I'd never heard of the dude. For starters, do you remember
26:29
what he was? I think it was the 3:50 to 1:00
26:34
or some 325 and we had five wagers, none of them bigger than
26:40
$20.00 I think. But you so you did have some
26:43
action on them though. Yeah, we had five different
26:45
people better, but there's a couple fives and 10 and I think
26:49
there was 120. Just a completely different
26:52
world. So it's rivalry weekend in Major
26:54
League Baseball coming up this weekend.
26:56
We mentioned the Cubs and the White Sox to kick things off.
26:58
Does that make any kind of impact at all in terms of
27:01
handle? Is that something maybe in
27:02
different states you see a different kind of bump, Anything
27:05
that comes out of baseball and just a whole hum weekend.
27:08
But we have rivalries all over the place.
27:11
In general, interleague clay is not great for handle.
27:15
So it might make a difference in Illinois and maybe a little bit
27:18
in Iowa because of the Cubs. But it's, it's no, not really in
27:22
particular that people care about, you know, the Brewers are
27:27
playing a bunch of Twins and stuff like that.
27:29
It's it's better when you have Division Rivals playing in terms
27:34
of the handle. I want to switch to hockey with
27:37
you. We have two potential series
27:41
that could wrap up. Of the two, Toronto, Florida,
27:44
Winnipeg at Dallas, which of the two, the one in the east or the
27:49
one in the West, is more likely to see a Game 7 or none of the
27:52
above? Well, you can't have a more
27:56
likely. And then that if you're saying
28:00
more like there you go to pick one of them, I'm going to say
28:03
I'm going to say your Jets are more likely to get back home
28:06
than Toronto. Reason being.
28:11
A lot on the line tomorrow afternoon in Dallas, Not only to
28:15
keep the not only to keep the dead season alive and a birth in
28:18
the Western Grafos Finals. I think this game may well
28:22
determine it will be the starting goalie for Team Canada
28:24
and the 11. Yeah, yeah, could be and and it
28:28
might. My take on this, Mike, and I
28:30
know I'm from there and that's my squad.
28:32
I don't think the Dallas Stars have a shot if this goes to Game
28:35
7 going back to Winnipeg. I really don't.
28:39
Well, people said to me they mailed in the performance last
28:42
night. I said they didn't just don't
28:44
get any scoring chances against that team in Winnipeg.
28:48
They, they, they just shut you down and you have to kind of
28:51
find lucky bounces. I, I, you know, they've been
28:53
suffocating. 2 shout outs in a row.
28:56
Dallas needs to win. But hella, Buck has just been so
28:58
bad, bad on the road. But the price is only $1.45,
29:03
which will tell me obviously. And tonight you're almost at
29:06
2:50 with the Panthers, so it'll be interesting.
29:10
If the game is tied later, Winnipeg could take a lead to
29:12
the third period. I think the pressure all then
29:16
becomes on the Stars. Do you get the sense that
29:19
Edmonton's playing the best to hockey right now?
29:21
Of course they're waiting for the winner of that series.
29:23
Does Edmonton look like they deserve it?
29:25
Favorite right now to you? Game five of the LA series this
29:31
point, they've been the best team, but was it just the
29:35
Knights really lack of scoring depth or is it that they've
29:39
really played well in front of Stuart Skinner?
29:43
I don't know. I like Edmonton to beat either
29:47
Winnipeg or Dallas and make the final.
29:49
I think we see a rematch, although in the East I think
29:51
that goes six or seven games. If it's Florida and Carolina, I
29:54
could. See it?
29:56
Over 2 little basketball. We got a Game 7 coming up.
29:58
We'll get to that momentarily. But before that, game six, MSG
30:03
chance to Polish off off the Celtics tonight.
30:05
What do you think we're going to see tonight?
30:07
A Celtics team that comes out, nothing to lose.
30:11
We going to see the Knicks maybe playing a little bit nervous out
30:15
there. What do you think we're going to
30:17
see and what should be a fun environment tonight at MSG?
30:20
I like the Celtics tonight. I think the Celtics look better
30:23
in Game 5 without Tatum. It sounds ridiculous, doesn't
30:26
it? I thought they look better
30:29
without Tatum. I'm not saying the Knicks are
30:31
going to, you know, are going to lay an egg in Celtics.
30:34
I just think this will be a good game tonight.
30:36
I'd be shocked if the Knicks ran away with this and the game was
30:39
the result was decided before the last five minutes of the
30:42
game. I think the Celtics are very
30:43
live still. What about the what?
30:45
What about the West? OKC?
30:47
Obviously young team. They're 7/7 and 1/2 point
30:50
favorite. That veteran laden Nuggets team.
30:53
Would you grab the points at First blush, Mike in this game
30:56
on Sunday? I already took 7 1/2.
30:59
Did you think it'd be a good game?
31:01
I think and I and I have a little bit I, I, I, I put a
31:03
little piece of money on plus 260 as well, but then I just go
31:07
in the game. I put some pizza money on Stuart
31:09
Skinner to win the the the cons money.
31:12
We'll see if that goes. Hey, WNBA starts this week
31:15
tomorrow afternoon on noon. Your time Indiana and Chicago.
31:19
The Angel Caitlin rivalry. What do you do you?
31:23
Expect a bigger right this season as opposed to last.
31:27
We know last year took off like a rocket ship.
31:29
Does it have another level to it, do you think, Mike?
31:32
We'll see. You know, I wish the Cameron
31:34
break was healthy because I think I mean, LA have a relevant
31:37
team would help the right out here because we have so many
31:39
Southern California people. Obviously Plum went there.
31:45
They have a good fan base. They have exciting games.
31:47
They turn out. They're very, very, they've
31:51
developed their own clientele there.
31:53
I think it will help if Rick comes back and and they're a
31:57
playoff team that will help the overall right in the league.
32:01
There's so much turnover. I mean, you get 8 new coaches.
32:04
It's really hard. I think the handicap early that
32:07
you have to watch these teams play a lot of new faces.
32:11
It seems like there's more mobility than than in the NBA
32:14
with with players moving around. So I can't bet the games.
32:18
I took a little bit of money on the links and and Collier for
32:21
MVP just to to have something in pocket, but that's about it for
32:25
me. I think Dallas is interesting to
32:26
watch with Becker's getting Deja Carrington, I think they'll be
32:30
much, much better than they were last.
32:31
Year. What about futures?
32:32
Did you guys see much of A interest in guys betting on
32:36
futures? The only ones who are doing it
32:39
are the ones that are that try to follow it really closely.
32:43
There's a few, you know, $20 bets here and there for your
32:45
favorite team, but this is a sport that you get very there's
32:49
very little recreational playing lessons on your favorite team.
32:52
The Preakness tomorrow, do you have an opinion?
32:54
No, I don't, Kenny. I haven't even looked at the
32:56
form yet. I'm glad journalism is running
32:59
because there's at least some interest.
33:01
If he wasn't running out of, you know, I don't know if we, I
33:04
mean, we still have a lot of booths available.
33:06
Let's put it back. Do you really?
33:07
Well, not surprised. Good stuff, Mike Palm.
33:10
Good stuff, Mike. Thank you.
33:11
As always, We'll talk to you in a week's time.
33:13
Appreciate it, Mike. All.
33:14
Right. Thanks.
33:15
Good. To talk to you, Mike Palm, VP of
33:17
Operations. If you're listening in the
33:19
eastern well across the river, you can download the Circa
33:22
Sports Illinois. Circa is in Illinois, of course,
33:25
they're here in Iowa as well. Circa Sports Iowa download you
33:28
can find the best price really. I mean always on golf Yeah, I'd
33:32
be surprised if you wouldn't there.
33:33
So I following our conversation yesterday about you Stewart
33:37
Skinner and you're asking questions Yeah.
33:39
I got him at 325 to one. Do I think he's going to win the
33:43
con? Smite if Edmonton wins right and
33:47
McDavid is McDavid. But if But if Stewart stands on
33:51
his head. Because it would have to be
33:55
almost in a way, OK Edmonton wins.
33:58
Get a couple of shut outs in there and dry sidle.
34:02
Is. And McDavid kind of almost
34:04
cancel each other out. Well, they're because they're
34:06
both good. Right.
34:06
They do what they're normally going to do, but Skinner comes
34:09
out of nowhere and leads this team.
34:11
I mean, Mcdavid's 4 to one or three to one or something like
34:14
that. Stewart Skinner was 325 to one
34:17
at DraftKings. So we get a couple shutouts,
34:21
maybe a 2 to one win in there. They don't have any losses that
34:25
are blowouts, they just he lost 3/2.
34:27
Yep, Picard does not see the net again.
34:30
They ride with Skinner the whole time.
34:31
McDavid has Seiko six games, McDavid has three goals, Dry
34:35
Settle has three. They each have 3 assists, but
34:37
they're basically the same, right?
34:39
Yeah. None of them are game winners.
34:40
No. Also put that in there right at
34:42
3:25 to 1:00. I wonder what he is right now at
34:46
DraftKings. So I look Circa dropped him
34:48
'cause apparently he was 300 to one at Circa and when I went on
34:51
he was 150 to 1. So I went to my DraftKings and I
34:54
got 3 and 12:45. I mean I love taking these type
34:59
of shots, right? And I think as as Mike said, and
35:01
I agree with Mike, the team to beat in the West is the Edmonton
35:05
Oilers. Are the Edmonton Oilers rematch
35:09
of last year was a hell of a series win seven games.
35:12
Florida, Edmonton. But there's, I mean, why not?
35:16
Why not? Can you find them on there?
35:18
I don't see it there. I was looking in another spot.
35:21
Let me bounce around because I was.
35:23
Con Smite. Con Smite because I was on the
35:26
WNBA markets that I was looking at earlier.
35:29
Team goals on net, Goalie props. Awards.
35:33
It's under awards. There it is who win the con,
35:37
Smythe. What's McDavid right now?
35:39
McDavid is plus 350. This is at DraftKings plus 350.
35:44
Frederick Anderson, 5 to 1. Is he really?
35:46
Well, Carolina. Goalie along with Miko Miko
35:49
Ratnin tricidal 10 to 1 so we're looking down here in this deep,
35:52
deep range he. Was three and a quarter
35:54
yesterday afternoon after work, so I bet it at home so about.
35:57
4:00 Well, it's not that anymore.
36:00
Shy flee 100 to 1. I've got one of him too.
36:04
Marshawn, he's 75 to. I can't find him.
36:08
Hella Buck 60 to one, Yeah. Keep going.
36:10
He's ready. He's in.
36:11
There he is 80 to. One, He's now 80 to 1.
36:13
You got the right number. Let smart monies come in, folks.
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