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Lavelle on 1 Million Followers, Life Off Camera & What's Next · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: How would you describe the community that you've built on social.
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  Speaker 2: They're more friends, man and love to start the interview,
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  Speaker 2: but I was so excited about talking about Barry.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone. Welcome Too Personal. I'm Joy Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: Very excited for our next guest who has built a
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  Speaker 1: community by making the Internet feel a little more personal.
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  Speaker 1: If you ever heard Brand, you already know who he is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I did that very well, but I
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  Speaker 1: did in my voice. Through beauty, food, lifestyle and everyday moments,
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  Speaker 1: Lavell has created a space that feels less like content
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  Speaker 1: and more like catching up with someone you actually know.
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  Speaker 1: And today we are going to talk to the person
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  Speaker 1: behind the camera the difference between the online version of
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  Speaker 1: yourself and who you are in real life, protecting your
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  Speaker 1: privacy while also living publicly, and what authenticity really looks
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  Speaker 1: like in the creator economy.
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  Speaker 3: Leavelle, Welcome to Too Personal.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, what an introduction. I'm so happy to be.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into everything, we were just having a
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  Speaker 1: little kiki before we started recording.
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  Speaker 2: You are a Barry Universe, you graduated a Barry University.
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  Speaker 2: Grand very proud alone. How insane is.
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Because y'all always want to play with me on the internet. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: them on the board of trustees at Barry University, I
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  Speaker 1: graduated a few years before you, okay, in two thousand nine.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's incredible.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: You how long did you live in Miami?
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  Speaker 2: I lived in Miami for seven years. I moved there
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. Who I'm starting to feel like I'm
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  Speaker 2: aging myself as well. Times graduated nine Okay, okay, make
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  Speaker 2: me feel a little better about it. I got my
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  Speaker 2: bachelor's in pr there. I actually got my first like
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  Speaker 2: adult job. Shout out to Barry for really putting me
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  Speaker 2: on the map with that. Like low key looking back
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  Speaker 2: on my journey and my story, like it is still
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  Speaker 2: such a big part of it. But I worked in admissions,
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  Speaker 2: our recruited kids around the country and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: well I lay it here by taking a leap of
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  Speaker 2: faith that Barry University supported hugely more than I realized.
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  Speaker 2: They were like, oh, you're going to move there with
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  Speaker 2: no plans, no job, no nothing.
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  Speaker 4: Was like, I'm going for it. They're like, Okay, we're
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  Speaker 4: going to give.
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  Speaker 2: You three months to get on your feet, and they
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  Speaker 2: let me work from Los Angeles. Before you know, being
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  Speaker 2: virtual as a thing. So shout out to Very University.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm so glad you said that, because
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  Speaker 1: I am obviously a huge advocate for the university.
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  Speaker 3: I'm on the board of.
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  Speaker 1: Trustees, i have a scholarship there, I am a very
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  Speaker 1: active alumni because it is Very university really got me
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  Speaker 1: on my feet too.
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  Speaker 3: Like I studied broadcasting there.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously we are working in our field and have since
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  Speaker 1: I graduated from there, And they had incredible professors in
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  Speaker 1: the B and Garner which I'm sure you had a
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  Speaker 1: class or two and there of course, And yeah, they've
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  Speaker 1: just always been really supportive of me and what I
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  Speaker 1: learned there. I really used, which I think is really important,
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  Speaker 1: especially in this field because so much of college can
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  Speaker 1: feel like kind of redundant. But I really learned how
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  Speaker 1: to be a broadcaster there. So I'm just like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: always telling people they should check it out, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you're you know, you're in the Miami area. They work
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  Speaker 1: very well with the local schools there, So how cute trustees.
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  Speaker 2: Little blurb, And I also say, you know, I came
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  Speaker 2: from public school. I never went to like a Catholic
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  Speaker 2: private institution. It was just completely opposite of what I
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  Speaker 2: was thinking. You know, my counsels like, you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to it's not going to work. You're not going to
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  Speaker 2: you know, be able to really go through the college process.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, man, their attention to really making sure
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  Speaker 2: that each student. And I'm not just saying this, I
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  Speaker 2: was getting paid back in the day to say, it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: And I really give and a test a lot of
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  Speaker 2: my success to the university.
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  Speaker 4: What a great way to kick this.
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  Speaker 3: Oh great, I love that. I did not know that.
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  Speaker 3: That is so exciting. Yeah, they really do care for.
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  Speaker 1: Each student, and I think that that's that's really special.
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  Speaker 1: So I love that and I'm gonna I am going
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  Speaker 1: to send this to Mary to start that. Okay, well, now,
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  Speaker 1: congratulation a million on tiktokty nuts.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, six years in the world, finally hit
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  Speaker 2: the milestone.
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  Speaker 1: What what were you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: What was I feeling when I hit it? Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was really in disbelief. I'll be transparencying and I've
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  Speaker 2: also just shared this recently. It couldn't have came at
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  Speaker 2: a better time in my life. As you know, it
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  Speaker 2: goes in flaws. You know, life is not always peaches,
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  Speaker 2: creams and rainbows. So I was dealing with my granny
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  Speaker 2: being in the hospital, just kind of really taking a
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  Speaker 2: look at my own career, getting a little frustrated, you
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  Speaker 2: know how it goes with trying to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: I'm always kind of like taking it to the next
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  Speaker 2: level in my head about everything. And then it was
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  Speaker 2: like ill blinked and I was like, oh wait, we're
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  Speaker 2: about to hit the million followers. We got like forty
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  Speaker 2: thousand followers in less than two weeks. It was something
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  Speaker 2: I just really didn't see coming. So it's still I
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  Speaker 2: think I'm still processing it. I still don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I have the words to cry describe what I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: but it is, and I'll say, this exactly what I
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  Speaker 2: thought it would be. Like, I do feel like, oh
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  Speaker 2: so accomplishing it all. So I'm just trying to take
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  Speaker 2: it in day by day. I mean, this is straight
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  Speaker 2: off the press.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's important. It's really important to do that. We've
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  Speaker 1: talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Just taking
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  Speaker 1: a moment to appreciate when you reach these milestones, because
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  Speaker 1: so much about this business, as you just said, it's
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  Speaker 1: ebbs and flows, it's show business.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's show business. Nobody tells you that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the unspoken thing because nobody, you know, wants
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  Speaker 1: to adapt all of the other things that come with
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  Speaker 1: being in show business.
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  Speaker 3: But that's what it is. It's the new world.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes it's very easy to get down on yourself
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  Speaker 1: because things that you're posting aren't reacting, or the work
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  Speaker 1: that you put in is you don't feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: paying off, or you're not getting attention, or you're comparing
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  Speaker 1: yourself to others talk about it. So when you do
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  Speaker 1: get to a point like that, it's important to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just take a beat and really appreciate that you did that.
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  Speaker 4: It also felt so good.
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  Speaker 2: This was the first milestone in terms of followers count
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  Speaker 2: where it wasn't like I feel like every time I
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  Speaker 2: hit a milestone, you know, the five hundred k, the
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  Speaker 2: seven fifty, the eight hundred, everybody will always be like.
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  Speaker 2: The million was just that number always over my head.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're so close. I can't believe you don't have
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  Speaker 2: a million followers. You're going to get to the million thing.
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  Speaker 2: So to really fun be there and not hear that
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  Speaker 2: anymore and really get, you know, the recognition. I always
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  Speaker 2: feel like I deserve with or without it. That's also
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  Speaker 2: a good feeling. And I think that also has me
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  Speaker 2: kind of like just taking a breath in and like, whoo, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's take in this milestone, baby.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, especially when it comes to creators, because
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  Speaker 1: it's still a relatively new world that everyone's trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out. Brands are trying to figure out, creators are
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out, platforms are trying to figure out.
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  Speaker 3: We are trying to figure out.
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  Speaker 1: Like creators are the new celebrities and you are making
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  Speaker 1: your own material. And so when I have conversations about
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  Speaker 1: like what work is, especially when it comes to creators,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've heard this, and they're like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but like all these creators like just have like a
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  Speaker 1: million followers and they don't even work.
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  Speaker 3: Who doesn't work? Who doesn't work?
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  Speaker 2: I quote MICHAELA all the time, like you try being
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  Speaker 2: an influence of for a day. And I know we
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  Speaker 2: laugh about it, but man, if they really knew for
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  Speaker 2: some of us, you know, I really it is a
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  Speaker 2: day in constant w drive, especially get to a million followers.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also very transparent, especially being like an open black
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  Speaker 2: gay man man I am working like around the clock
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  Speaker 2: to get to these places. And I think because we
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  Speaker 2: do see so many people pop up on social media
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  Speaker 2: sometimes and do it get the million followers in a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks, and now there are this new hot sensation.
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  Speaker 2: But when you really doing the groundwork, you're really building
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  Speaker 2: it from scratch, You're carving it out. You're not taking
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  Speaker 2: no shortcuts, You're not you don't have the best friends
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  Speaker 2: in all the different rooms. It is a true work
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  Speaker 2: that takes a ton of effort. And honestly, man made
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  Speaker 2: me take a deep breath and night at the mouse
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, whoah, yeah, that was that was
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  Speaker 2: some hard work that we did back there, Levil.
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  Speaker 1: It is and you know we're not digging ditches right
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  Speaker 1: like all of us have had well most of us
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  Speaker 1: have had hard jobs where you are doing physical labor,
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  Speaker 1: like people are building homes and laying railroad Like nobody
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  Speaker 1: is comparing it to that. We're just saying work is work,
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  Speaker 1: and whatever it is that you do putting your effort
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  Speaker 1: in and being rewarded, you should celebrate yourself for. And
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  Speaker 1: the thing about creators is create You are creating something.
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  Speaker 3: You are being creative.
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  Speaker 1: And I find sometimes because obviously everyone in every business,
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  Speaker 1: particularly it's front facing, is a creator in some capacity.
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  Speaker 1: Unless you are like, you know, rap Pit, you can
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  Speaker 1: skip the Instagram part of the process. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're not brap Pit. So I will get these blocks
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  Speaker 1: sometimes where I'm like, I don't feel like posting today,
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  Speaker 1: But then it's like a week has gone by and
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  Speaker 1: then I'm like, I still haven't like I need to
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  Speaker 1: do this. I don't to your point, you are the
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  Speaker 1: material and that can be exhausting.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is completely exhausting, and it is and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like, you know, in reflection of it, when I
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  Speaker 2: do kind of think about the process of getting here
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  Speaker 2: and the beginning man looking back on it, that really
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  Speaker 2: is the fun part.
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  Speaker 4: Though.
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  Speaker 2: Like in the beginning, I felt like I had so
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  Speaker 2: much flexibility and I was doing some of everything. I
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  Speaker 2: never thought I'd be known as the grocery store guy,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I was just doing what
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  Speaker 2: I love, doing what I could. Now getting in this
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  Speaker 2: space it does take even more strategy.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I have definitely carved out a lane
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  Speaker 2: for myself, and with that, I'm always trying to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that I'm building it out some more because the
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  Speaker 2: algorithm will tell you like you ain't in the grocery
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  Speaker 2: store veil.
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  Speaker 4: We not pushing it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's also too like a constant I think workflow
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  Speaker 2: of trying to be sure for me, I don't lose
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  Speaker 2: inspiration based on the numbers. I don't lose inspiration based on,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, how much I want to do it
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  Speaker 2: or how much I feel like committed to this new
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  Speaker 2: story I want to tell. It's just kind of always
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  Speaker 2: standing and flow, always staying with those bright ideas that
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  Speaker 2: are given to me, letting them come out of me,
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  Speaker 2: and translating if you will, on my profile and things.
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  Speaker 4: But that takes a lot of work. It's a ton.
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  Speaker 1: Lord. When you started, like back when it was just fun, right,
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  Speaker 1: what was your motivation?
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  Speaker 3: Were you like planning on being a creator?
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  Speaker 1: Were you just like, this is a fun thing I
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  Speaker 1: want to post so I'm gonna build on this.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 2: I started during the pandemic. You know, that was the
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  Speaker 2: time where everybody, I felt like, well hopefully a good
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  Speaker 2: amount of us, got to kind of look around us
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  Speaker 2: and take a breath and see what was going on.
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  Speaker 2: When I moved here, I didn't even know what I
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  Speaker 2: was going to move here and do joy like I
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  Speaker 2: was just like, I'm working at higher education.
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  Speaker 4: This was not the goal of my life.
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  Speaker 2: I'm moving to Los Angeles because I always wanted to
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  Speaker 2: live here, you know, Hollywood. I'm gonna be a start
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  Speaker 2: and be on the billboards and things. But I didn't
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  Speaker 2: move here thinking that I would ever be where I
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  Speaker 2: am today. I was kind of thinking like, oh, I'll
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  Speaker 2: be behind the scenes, like I got the Bachelor's in
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  Speaker 2: pr I know how to work the corpus said, I'll
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  Speaker 2: be a producer or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, two years went by.
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  Speaker 2: I was working at a hotel, and then I was
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  Speaker 2: working at a nightclub, and I really wasn't making any
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  Speaker 2: progressive efforts to what I thought.
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  Speaker 4: Would be my reality moving here.
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  Speaker 2: You know another thing, everybody I thought I was the
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  Speaker 2: hottest thing on the block. Everywhere I went. It'd be
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  Speaker 2: the same in la I'll take the entertainment world by storm.
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  Speaker 2: Was not the case, by the way. So when the
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  Speaker 2: pandemic happened, I was like, oh, no, I cannot lose
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  Speaker 2: this time. Man, Lavelle, You've already lost so much time.
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  Speaker 2: You really didn't do any of the things that you
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  Speaker 2: said you were going to do and kind of being
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  Speaker 2: hard myself. But something great about the pandemic was well,
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  Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing else to do, Let's just create.
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  Speaker 2: And then TikTok came up. And I still remember, like
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  Speaker 2: my friends like, yo, she get on TikTok. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like your content wially blow up on the air. This
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  Speaker 2: was when everybody was just dancing and stuff on TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: You remember that time, and oh no, I'm never a dancer,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I know my talents.
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  Speaker 4: I did this.
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  Speaker 2: I was doing a few videos right and then I
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  Speaker 2: posted this one video through the grocery store that we
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  Speaker 2: don't name, but we could talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: Trader Joees. I was obsessed with trade jokes really backing
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  Speaker 4: that day.
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  Speaker 2: And I did this neck video and he did like
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  Speaker 2: a million in the first few hours, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my goodness, we finally hit something.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll share that in life. It was so funny.
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  Speaker 2: When that finally picked up, my life said okay, no,
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  Speaker 2: actually we're about to start all over.
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  Speaker 4: I went through a horrible breakup. I didn't have nothing.
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  Speaker 2: It was my first time really not having a place
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  Speaker 2: to call home, really not knowing what my next paycheck,
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  Speaker 2: was coming for. It was a crazy time just being honest,
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  Speaker 2: and so when I finally got back on my feet
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  Speaker 2: a big party, that was like, I remember the feeling
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  Speaker 2: of Wow, talk can really change my life.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know why, I just believed in that.
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  Speaker 2: And so when I get back to a place where
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, let's start making content again. I only
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  Speaker 2: had like sixty thousand follows at this point, but I
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  Speaker 2: knew I could build something. I kind of really started
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  Speaker 2: to produce and really started to get in my beg
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  Speaker 2: and see this as the point that would change my
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  Speaker 2: life for a few years. And that's kind of how
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  Speaker 2: it worked out. But in the beginning of it all,
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  Speaker 2: I was really just like having fun. Then when life
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  Speaker 2: get real, I was like, no, I am betting on this.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be the thing that works for me.
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  Speaker 2: And it really did well.
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  Speaker 1: When you bet on yourself, come on it, my opinion
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  Speaker 1: always pays off. Yes, because you are you are the
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  Speaker 1: catalyst for whether or not it would be successful.
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  Speaker 2: This is without a doubt, like there is no in
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  Speaker 2: your opinion. When you bet on yourself one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 2: you will always win. And I think people think like
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  Speaker 2: sometimes that look within the first few months, so the
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  Speaker 2: first few years, even it takes time. Everybody has a
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  Speaker 2: different journey, everybody has a different story. But that betting
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  Speaker 2: on yourself thing, really betting on yourself, that comes with
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  Speaker 2: believing no matter what, no matter time frame, no matter
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  Speaker 2: how it's looking right now, it is going to eventually
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  Speaker 2: work out. It's the biggest bet you can take. But
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  Speaker 2: it'll always work, you know, I really believe that approvably.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the difference between success and failure, right is
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  Speaker 1: like not giving up. And if you are the product
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  Speaker 1: and you are investing in yourself and your talents and
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  Speaker 1: your passion, you're in control of whether that works or not.
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  Speaker 1: Like and you have to be able to put in
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  Speaker 1: the work. But to your point, there are these you
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  Speaker 1: know people sometimes or these these moments that will pop
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  Speaker 1: off on social and they'll go crazy and it's like, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: look great, but now you are known for this thing, yep.
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  Speaker 1: And now if you're not giving us this thing, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to work really hard to give us something else.
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  Speaker 3: Because we know you for this thing.
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  Speaker 1: You've built a community, which is very different than a moment,
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  Speaker 1: and that takes effort, in time and years and consistency
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  Speaker 1: and giving of yourself. So how would you describe like
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  Speaker 1: the community that you've built on social.
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  Speaker 4: They're more friends man, and.
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  Speaker 1: The interview I was so excited about talking about Mary.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, those are truly my friends. I have created what
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  Speaker 2: some would call a parasocial relationship. But I just think
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  Speaker 2: because I have always been so transparent, I have always
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  Speaker 2: been so vulnerable. I have always been authentic. Let's say
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  Speaker 2: that one more time in the camera, lavel. I have
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  Speaker 2: always been authentic. I've always been myself. I think I've
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  Speaker 2: really found my core group of people who believe in
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  Speaker 2: that and see it and support it. So like at times,
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: I attest a ton of this to my community. Because
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: when I said I'm not going to go to Trader
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Joe's anymore, and I was so scared shitless of what
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: that looks like because at that time I was only
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: making Trade Joe's content. My audience showed me in an
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: unbelievable way, like, boy, we don't care about that grocery store.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: It is you that we love. You need to go
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: to any store. And that gave me the feel to
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: do that. When I do get frustrated about the lack
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: of opportunities that I experienced. Man, my friends come through
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: in a really indescribable way and show me, like Lavel,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: that will work out.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: We ain't going nowhere.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: We gat you and to have something that loyal, to
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: have something that real. I can't even describe really what
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: it's like to have one million plus friends, but that's
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: what I have, and I'm so grateful for him.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: No, it is, it's really, it really is special.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: And your your energy is very authentic to whoever that
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: was sent to catch the shade authentic and it's joyful.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: And as somebody whose algorithm is in the trenches, Oh.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Don't get like that, be like, Okay, how do I
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: get over here?
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Listen because Haley, I feel like I don't do too
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: much crazy stuff a lee No. But some of my
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: friends be getting there, they're like, can you please put
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: your phone down? Like I do not need another piece
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: of bad news. But I do find that you are
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: the bright side of social and we need that because
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: there's so so much bad news and I know it
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: because I be in there. I be like next thing,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: and then you know, the algorithm rewards what you react to,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: So I do think that's important, but I do also
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: know that when you are someone who provides that kind
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: of energy and joyfulness to people, we are not.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Every day is not a great day. So do you
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: find it.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Do you find it difficult at times to tap into
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: that when you're not having a good day because you
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: are performing and in some way not you know, authentically,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: but being a creator and being you know, the new
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: celebrities like you got to show up.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: And you know, you got to do it right.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I wish people really understood how much of a conscious
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: effort I made to be that little square, a little slice,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: a little corner of joy. You know, there is especially
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: in this day and age, where you are rewarded sometimes
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: for paying a part in the drama or giving your
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: opinion on things that's hot right now, or somehow having
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: some beef and some negative stuff going on. When I
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: say I have consciously made this effort to be the
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: guy that people smell that and to say the friend
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and like you said, ultimately perform as my best self.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know if if I really struggle with as
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: much always showing up in that way because to my
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: audience they hold me so accountable. It just really comes
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: from the inside and I just have to be transparent
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: and honest and saying that even when I was just
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: going through this really tough time, I find so much
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: joy in creating the content and seeing the reaction, and
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I laugh at myself sometimes sometimes I literally watch myself
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: joy and I will bring a smile to my own
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: self when I'm feel in bad so because it is
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: also a slice of happiness that I give people. It
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: is a cake of happiness I give myself. So I
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: think it just I just built this so long. I've
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: been working at it for so long that even now,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: come on discipline, when I do have a bad day,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: it happens all the time. I want to be honest
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and saying that I am not always happy. I don't
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: know if my partner would agree with that, because I'm
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: really in my happy guy. But man, I really I
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: just got into such a place with my discipline and
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: how much I believe in my brain and how much
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I know what it is. I could turn it on
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: like that and then next out to I'm all chip
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: for a happier too.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if it's as hard for me anymore.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: That's a good lesson for me because I've never really
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: looked at it as discipline, and when you are building
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: a brand, and when you are sustaining a brand, it
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: does require discipline, and like you know, you come from
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: a pr education, like the storytelling is a huge part
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: of building a community. And I actually don't really like
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: always using the word brand because brand is so bland,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: like it's so it's so, it's so all encompassing, and
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: it kind of takes out the humanity.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Of what it is.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And like, you have built a community, Like you've built
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: people who are expecting something from you and who enjoy
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you and your personality and your life and what you've
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: shared with them, and they go to you for that experience.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: So I think that that's more than just like a brand.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you, And it also comes with a ton of responsibility.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: You know, there are sometimes I'll be reading the comments.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: It is not always peaches in the criminal I want
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: to be like, oh, you know what, And then by
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: the time I get to the comment, my friend's already
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: in the comments like.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Ah, don't even do that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: We don't do that over here, and da da da
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: da da da, be like you know where you are,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: so right, let's all take a little deeper breath and
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: keep this good vibes going, and so it goes back
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: to both of those things. Now do I and this
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: is my thing now that I'm at this like million
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: milestone joy, you know, and we talk about performing and
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: really trying to kind of peel the curtains back today
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: with you on what my content is versus who I
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: am as a person. That's why I'm excited to explore next,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: you know, being and I'm sorry to always go back
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to it. I'm very black and proud, j' I can't
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: probably really understand that even more after this, but being
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: a black, gay male man, I really also have kind
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: of like helped myself to a certain standard where nobody
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: can take anything away from me.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: And that takes a lot of word too. Man.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I don't curse in my content, you know, As I said,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I don't feed into anything negative. I really turn on
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: my best version of myself and present that all all
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the time. Now that I have this million followers and
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: you know, wanting to explore nests, I am so curious
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: and excited to see what's.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Sharing this side of me looks like.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And that's why I'm happy to even be having this
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: conversation today because, as you know, in this industry, it
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: sometimes does feel like a hamster wheel, and I feel
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: like I was always trying to get to this place.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Now that I'm like, oh, luiville, what are we going
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: to do next?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And I share that because I hope a lot of
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: people understand that is really what it takes too in
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: this day and age. Man, it's always great when you're
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: at the top, but sustaining it. I didn't think about
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: that piece as much either. I'm like, Okay, well, but
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: you have to a million followers.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: What's next? Girlfriend?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: In a way that I'm excited about, And I wish
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: that more people or I hope that more people sees
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: what we do and how this flows behind the scenes
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: to kind of keep that motivation going. I talked to
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: so many people. They're like, how do you do what
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: honey state, I'm like, girl, it is a It is
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: a real life job that you have to continuously believe in,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: trust in, and also do your part to make it
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: even better. I've so many people leaning on me, and
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to kind of see what that next piece
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: look like. And we don't come back to this because
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I'm already inspired talking to you in this space, I'm like.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Oh you, well, you know what you don't know what
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: you don't know?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, So at different chapters of your career and your life,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: you have different expectations, and you're kind of starting anew
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: now because you've reached this milestone. So you're not a
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: startup anymore. You're not a new creator, you're not an
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: overnight success viral moments.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: You've built this.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: So now what's the next level? How do you maintain it?
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: How do you continue to grow it? And I think
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: that's you finding the balance of what you rewarding the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: community with what you've always given them while showing different
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: parts of you. Have you thought about what other parts
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: of yourself you want to share?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Have I thought about other parts of me that I
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: wanted to share? And I'm really trying to take my
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: time and really kind of sit with that. When when
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I think about the other part to me that I
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: want to share, it kind of it is still a
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: little glory. You know, I really believe in I know
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you said now brand, I really believe in what I built.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Let's say that I like that word and I wanted
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to always feel like an extension of that cause it
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: feels good to me.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: It feels real to me.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: You know, no matter what people say, no matter what
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: goes on, I find that to be real. And so
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: when I think about extending that to something bigger, that
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: part is still glory. I appreciate you saying like, you're
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: not the overnight sensation. You know, you did really build
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: this on your own. You are not started from scratch.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: But somehow, in a way, this industry kind of makes
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: me feel like that steal and I don't know what
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: it looks like just yet with the one million followers thing,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: but that piece really have held me back, and so
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm finding the motivation in real time
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: to kind of explore what those other pieces look like,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and what those partnerships look like, and what you know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the creative look like.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: But I don't know just yet. Honestly, I really don't.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: The thing about this industry is it's very hard to
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: not take things personally, especially when you are the product.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's very hard, and it's I don't know. I mean,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I've been in the business for twenty years. I don't
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: know that it ever ends like then.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: When I think of some of the biggest moments of
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: my career, there was always something that happened that I
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: was like, why didn't.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I get invited? Why didn't that person want to be
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: my friend? Like why didn't why didn't that brand want
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: to work with me?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And it's like it kind of hurts your feelings and
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: then you're like, wait a minute, bitch.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Hold on, like this is a business. Let's relax talk
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: But it's hard to move back and forth between that
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: because you are when you are the performer and you
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: are the talent and you are the product.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, yeah, I mean you have to be
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: saying no to me.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: It is so impactful on your mental and you got
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to understand, which I'm sure you do. I really feel
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: like I was built for this, you know. And I
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: always felt like when I get there, the things that
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: y'all be seeing, both the y'all little celebrities, because you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: they tell us all the time like whoo, there is
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: a human behind what y'all are seeing.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: I never thought I would be that person.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I am quickly understanding like, oh no, that is a reality,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: because levelle, you are human. And I have publicly spoke out,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: spoken out so many times, Joey, you know, calling out
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: brands for not being diverse, not having black creators at Coachella,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: not doing their efforts to make sure that talent overall
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: are represented in the right way. And so I'll share
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: with you even this past two weekends. You got to understand,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: we just came off of two big weekends for black entertainment.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: As someone who really advocates for our community, who knows
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: his names is in those rooms. You know, our works
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: are to get into rooms, and it's still not getting
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: no opportunities. That was just in real time something that
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I was dealing with, just while this whole one million
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: thing was happening in the personal way. There's no way
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't get the invite. There's no way that I
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: am not on this. Oh it must be me. They
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: really don't see what I am putting out there, not
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: buying what i'mudishing.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Then you go in your critique and then you go
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: and try to.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Change your thing, and da da da da da, And
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: then I have those same moments just like you or
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: God give me those same moments. Man, I don't want
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: to get your most already. I am a little crib baby.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: But like the one million followers thing, when I say
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: it couldn't came out a better time. You do get
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: insecure in it, and I am someone who's very insecure.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I'm a Leo for goodness sake, you know what I'm saying.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: But when you see your mutuals, many of them at
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: things like the Black Creator Influencer Brunch, and you know
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: they're on stage doing the things that you dreamed about,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: or even when you get the and sharing how this
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: industry work a little transparently, y'all. We see the when
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: you get the outbound, when the brands reach out to you.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: That doesn't automatically equal the deal.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So I had a good blend of like brands asking about, Hey,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: what does this look like for the Lavelle Show to
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: be a part of X weekend or this weekend, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: then not to see those coming to fruition. That is
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: another thing too that I've really been struggling with in
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: real time. But I also, like you just said, man,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: and I really do that. That's how I know it
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: this true? Give you a love hold and repeat, I
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: really be like lvill girl, have you not learned the storyline?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Anything that is meant for you will be yours? Then
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I show you that time and tom again. Then I'll
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: lift myself up and then the next opportunity to come,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: and Tom and is everything you know sare my grand
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: was in the hospital. I wouldn't be able to even
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: do the opportunities because I have to rush home for that.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: And those are little nugs that I want to give
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: to anybody who is in the same spaces that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: We go through.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Tom and toim again, like content or not, life gonna
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: hit you. You're gonna want the job, deserve the job,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: not get you, gonna want the promotion, need the promotion,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Think it's yours, somebody else take it like we know
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: that story time and Tom again. The real power comes
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: when you're like, all right, it's fine, I'm gonna get
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the other one. The next one's gonna be mine, and
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: not getting too distracted by it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: But easier said than done.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: It is easier so than done. It's why you have
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to constantly continue to tell yourself that and surround yourself
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: with people that tell you that and remain you as well,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: because because it is not an easy thing to hear. No,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and you will here know your entire life, it doesn't
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: matter what level get to, there is somebody who isn't
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: going to want to work with you, or isn't going
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: to want to give you that job, or a client
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: is going to leave, or any number of things for
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: any number of reasons. And business, like, I'm a Capricorn,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: so you know, business is my life.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Work is my life.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: But we have a little sensitive side and we take
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: things personally, and it's just important to remember that, like
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: even though your passion feels like a big part of you,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and work is what we do every day. So when
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: people are like, oh, you got to separate work from life,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: like baby, where like what we do every day, Like
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of course it's a part of our identity and that's okay.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: It just can't be your whole life. But I think
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: it's okay to feel those things. It's just important to
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: remember it's not the end all, be all, and you
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: know it's it's really not dissimilar to being like an.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Actor or an actress.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: You know you you're going to not get You're not
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: going to get yes, shows are going to get canceled,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: corporations are going to get sold, and you know networks
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: are going to move on. You have to be able
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to weather that and continue to believe in yourself. If
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you're going to maintain in a business that works like this.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: It just and it applies to so many businesses. Like
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: if you are a client based business, you you work
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: in pr, you work in you know media, you like
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you work in advertising. Like sometimes clients want to move
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to another place or they are shutting their business down,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: so they're going to be gone, Like you have to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: be able to have the stomach for that and not
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: just the stomach like the perseverance of spirit, because it's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: It is, Yeah, it really is.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: So let's talk a little let's go a little personal. Okay,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: we are on personal. Let's talk about big Guy.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, didn't you.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I love I love how you. I love how big
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: guy shows up. I love how you handle big Guy.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's so clever and it is. It is
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: so like intriguing, but not in the like I have.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Like sometimes when people high stuff, I'm like, I can
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: find out who this is, but I'll be busy.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: So I don't. But I don't. I don't feel that.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Way because I feel like you guys, you give enough
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: in such a sweet way that it's like this is
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: protected and that's how it's meant to be. But we
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: are still sharing, so don't make it malicious. And I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: don't know if that was your intention, but I just
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that's how I receive it because I've been in public
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: relationships and who I'll not be doing that again, and
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: so many, so many women specifically that I know who
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: are in this business are like, you know, well some
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: will be whole married and like, no, you're not getting no, no, no,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you are not.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: This is this is in the corner.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: This is my life, my personal life, my special safe place.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: You're not getting any of that. You can have all
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: this and you.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Know that part of my life is just not accessible.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little in between it because
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: while I don't want to be in a public relationship,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I am not like hiding anything either.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: So I just love how you handle it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Oh thank you that man, big guy. Was it intentional
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to do that? It started off not intentional at all,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: and then it kind of you know, stuff become a
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: thing so quickly you don't even realize that when you're
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: in it. I was just really not showing because we
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: were just kind of like kicking it and like you know,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: when you at that.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Spot my life claiming man publicly girl, it's a humiliation ritual.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: It gotta be or something, and I wasn't going through
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: that again. I had.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: You know, I met big Guy at a very interesting
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: time of my life. I really didn't even want the relationship.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I just get out of something not
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: too long ago that broke me apart and ruined me
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: and dah da da dah.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: You know how that is.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: When your heart is broken, you don't want to So
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I was just having fun with him, and we were
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I was recording so much content, especially at that time,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: just organically.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Like anybody know me.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm picking up the phone, I'm recording,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: and he was becoming more and more a part of
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: my life, and I was like, okay, I'm missing out
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: on my recording time because you're always around and you're
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: in these spaces. And so I slowly started to show him,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: you know, in that space. And then we sat down
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: one of his mentors. That is actually how it came about. Like,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I don't want to take it. Wasn't my bright idea
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: to keep this mystery man or have you know what
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: they call the wizard Kelly in my content? And his
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: mentor said to us, he was like, what you're doing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: You don't recognize it, but you should keep it just
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: like that. That is going to protect what exactly what
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: is going on here. And it's just something about the
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: way he gave us that advice. I was like, I
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: completely agree, man, I really do want to keep this
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: part of me sacred because ultimately, Big God did not
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: sign up for what I do. And I think people
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: don't understand that. And I think, even when I go
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: to my reasoning and present day on why he is
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: still Wizard Kelly, it's because Big God didn't sign up
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: for this. Being in the public eye is not for
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the week. He has a real job. He goes to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: He puts on a suit and go to work. You
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, He just I do what I do.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: He don't flip his phone, and you know, have these
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: different opportunities to share his life in that way. And
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: because he didn't sign up for it, I don't feel
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: like it's fair, especially dating me, to just say like,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: all right, and now I'm about to feed you to
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the wolves. And so we're in real time kind of
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: exploring it more because I think, oh, you're gett a
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: real exclusive. I think for me, it has no longer.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: It's no longer feeding me the same way it has
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: because I am so deeply in love with my man
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: right now and I do believe he's the one in
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: my heart, and I am so I love my community,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: and I don't want them to feel like I'm not
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: sharing pieces of me.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: I just really want to keep that sacred.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I don't like now, being a gay, open person, that
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I am not showing off my love as much to
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: some and even to me.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: I feel like we were just with my family and
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: everybody's like, ah, don't put your phone up.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: He's a secret, and I'm like, well, no, okay, I
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: don't like that piece of it, and so transparently. Who
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: knows how long the big mystery will last, wink wink.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: But when we were really you know, getting to where
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: we are now in our relationship, I am so glad
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I did it because we really didn't have no outside noise.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: It really wasn't all of that so TBA on it,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't as conscious as people think. And I'm
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: not doing it too. He is not DL, he is
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: not a secret lover. We have been out in so
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: many spaces. Really, going back to my community, they could
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: could have linked so many.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Times for real.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Uh So it was just it's just has become something
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: in both ways that I am so happy I did
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: it, and in both ways, like I said to exploring new
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: sides of me, I'm excited to see.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: What share my relationship and my love life looks like next.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that is. I think that
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: was a very brilliant way of handling it. And we've
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: seen time and time again people sharing their love life
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and it not going according to plan right or it becoming,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you know, a separate storyline for what people expect from you,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and especially when you're building relationship and you are trying
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to decide if this is what you both want and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: this is a person who isn't in the public eye,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: it is something that I think you do have to
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: handle very gently.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, I am a bit more aggressive.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no one is getting on my page unless
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: we are married, like not the ring and the finger
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: like the day we are the paperwork is signed, is
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: when you can pop up on the page. And it's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: not because because I've done it before. I've been married
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: so and publicly married, so like I've been through these
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: these chapters before, and I like I just see it
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the way that I see it. But even with people
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: who I have dated, who have had their own public.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Platforms and all that.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Like it's just it's a for me, it's like an
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: extra thing to explain, you know, like it's an like
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: what I would what I would experience is say I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: would post post us together, and then I would post
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: us again in two weeks. Then to every one that follows,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: even my like friends and family, she's like they're like, okay,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: she posts every two weeks, like that's.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Her, that's her package. And then if I don't post
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: for three weeks, they're like, oh, it's everything.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about. We're having dinner.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, well you haven't posted in a while,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Like why do I need to keep this up? And
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: so it becomes like this extra person I'm in a relationship.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: For me, that was my science, But I do so
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I do love that it's special in private, and yeah,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's like a very genuine like
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: when I'm watching and he's like talking and you guys
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: are interacting, like I don't need to see who he
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: is and and just I'm just telling you, like as
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a friend. I don't read it as dl or hidden
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: or malicious in any way like to me, but maybe
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: it's just because like that's my view on my own
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: public relationships that like, I think it's very sweet. I
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: think it's sweet that that part of you is protected.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: And also, like to your point, everybody is not a
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: public figure, like some people don't want to be on
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the internet.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: It's still a thing.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: It is very much so still a thing.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: So it's just all something I'm navigating in real time
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: and handling it with care and some preciousness. And I'm
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: happy that you know, for the most part, everyone really
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: agrees with your sentiment, which is so funny to me
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: and what I love, Like we have such roaring fans
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: around our relationship that it's kind of like, oh my goodness,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: whenever the reveal does happen, let's just call it over reveal.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: I'll also have to handle over care.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: But it's something now I'm getting excited about, which got
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: me excited, and I'll do everything on my time.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: That's important.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: That's important because when you feel pressured to do something
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: you're not comfortable with, that comes with a different kind
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: of energy works that can summon regret, which is not
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: what you want to do, especially when you've handled it
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: with so much care all the time.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm gonna keep handled it with care. Shout
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: out to moy Hey, big guy, Hi.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Big guy.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Outside of creating contents, what's what grounds you? What reminds
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: you of? Like, what's important to you when the cameras
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: are off?
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Oh in real life and you know on camera? Community
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: matters to me? A ton, I am just such a
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I realized I really recharged with my people. I am
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the guy like, all right, I need to turn this
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: phone off. I need to go hang with some friends.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I need to go have a good cocktail, a good dinner.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: That is a I'm a social girlly like I just
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: love being social overall, and I'm accepted the older I get.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Like that is how I recharge to. That is really
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: how I take good care of myself. I think what
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: people wouldn't see though, is like I am also very
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: active in the gym. I'm working out like five or
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: six times a week, and I am a cardio guy.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Like I'm running six miles every twice a week. I'm
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: running three miles on my warm up days. Like that
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: keeps me very singing, cardio, weightlifting, solid corps pilates. I
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: want all the things, okay, so you get it. Solid
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: will get you right.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: That's why I ran track my freshman year of college
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: before I transferred to Barry. And now I don't think
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I could run to the front door. I am not
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: a runner anymore.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I am track star. These needs are starting to tell
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: a scary story. Let me just say that. So I understand.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Working out the same, no the you know and listen,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I'm a top heavy lady, so it's a lot of.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Lush strapping. If we're gonna do all that, sorry, specs.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Give it to us. Yeah, yeah, that's the same thing.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Like with just those are I would say those are
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: my my two big ones consistently like off camera, I'm
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: usually with my friends with Big Guy, with my family
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: or working out or I've also learned like I do
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: shut off and Big Guy help me see that because
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: we live together, you know, like I do kind of
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: like turn everything off this phone and is on do
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: not disturb. I don't really even want to scroll on
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: no algorithm. I don't even really watch TV like that.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Like I am someone I could just sit with my
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: thoughts and I do that often a lot too, So
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I would say those three that's me behind the scenes.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: That's how I really take care of myself. Make sure
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: this body is writing things. I am okayra I gotta
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: look great. And that stuff that I get all the time,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: like no way, this kid is eating this food and
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I eat it in moderation, but I
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: really do eat this stuff. I'm paying my money for it.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I got a whole fridge full of
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Costco stuff. I got a whole freezer full of Sam's
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Club frozen items. So I do kind of try to
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: practice the eating part a bit more. But the physical one,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: they're working out, I gotta do that. They hanging out
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: with my friends having a good time, I gotta do that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: And then talk to myself. I love being by myself.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I'm the guy. Do you go to dinner by yourself
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: for like lunch? Oh, such a slept on thing. That
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: is my idea of self care. If I can just
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: if I'm having a bad day, and I can go
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: to like a happy hour by myself baby and just
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: sit there people watch hear my thoughts. Also, and this
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: is a little side thing. Do you talk to yourself.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I talk to myself all day, oh my, so much
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: that I forget that other people are around.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, big guy says that all the time.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: You like, oh he when we first moved in together,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: he was like, I started to think, like you were
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: talking to somebody all the time. And I quickly understand like, no,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: he's talking to himself, and I will like out loud, y'all,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I'll talk to myself.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: I am a key keyer.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: But it keeps say saying, you know, when we work
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: in this industry, you gotta have those meet us by
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: yourself too, Like what is going on around you, lavelle,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I do that a lot.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: You're saying this because I just had this conversation earlier
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: with a friend.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: We were talking about just enjoying alone time.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Now I am dangerously close to enjoying too much of
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: alone time.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's the thing I do.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I do need to make.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Sure that I don't slip into that very tasty area
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: where I just.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Don't go out slide anywhere. But I do.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I love going and doing things by myself. I will
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: travel by myself, I will go to dinner by myself.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I will go to happy hour by myself. I will
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: go get a glass of wine, I will go on
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: a walk, I will go on a hike, I will
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: go do things by myself. I do not need my
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: company now. I love company, and I love good company,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: not just anybody's company, but good company. But yeah, and
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I do think, like it's interesting that you say that
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: about like the silence, because when you do a a job,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I think a lash just go off when you do
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: a job where you're pouring out of yourself. And also
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: you know, there is like a kind of a spiritual
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: thing to cameras and like, you know, we'll do this,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and like because you have kind of this calm down
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: because even though we're having a genuine conversation, like I
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: am not performing a character, this is who you are.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: You are upping, you know, the cameras are on and
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: like it just zaps a little bit of energy out
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: of you. The lights, people are watching and listening to
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: us behind the cameras here, Like there's a performance to
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: it as well. And so I do think like the silence,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the no stimulation, the darkness like a little chilly room
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you know where you were just kind of in quiet
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: is important, at least for me, I equate it to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: like my nervous system, Like I need that kind of
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: like quiet to just to recharge a little bit, to
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: allow myself to bring that energy back that I then
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: have to pour out.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're really like in a especially because we're on
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: camera all the time. We really I feel like sometimes
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: a little video game character, like I'm in the simulation
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: for real, So I'd be like, Okay, turn this stuff off.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: What is going?
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: It really does it kind of like and it kind
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: of jacks up my energy in a way, like being
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: on camera recording so much of your life, the lines
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: get so glory too. Like I remember when I was,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: like I shared when we first started dating, I was
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: recording everything. I'm happy now that I can kind of
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: breathe and take some deep breaths. But even when we're
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: not recording, I also I doom scroll boots.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Do you hear me? I am like, I don't know.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I think in the beginning, because it was so much
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: a part of my research for my content, what's the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: hot fuo?
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: What is trending? What is this? That somehow I.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Started to just do it all the time, so I
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: really started to say, like, oh, I got to shut
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: that off too.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: That doom scrolling y'all.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I do want y'all to scroll, but scroll on me
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and then go on about your that's that piece be
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: driving me crazy, so I'll be having to turn that
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: stuff off.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: And hey on, do not disturb I am. I do
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: not to start worrying.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Oh I never turn it back on, and sometimes I
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: do not turn it back on.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: But I listen. If I got to call you and
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: you got me, I'm gonna I'm gonna.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Double call, and then that's fine.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I'm invading if because I'm only calling somebody if it's important,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: and there we go. Like if I text you and
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: it's going do no diserve, okay, Like, but if it's
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: an emergency, you get in a double call.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: They said, I'm calling you back, and you would get
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: through to me, and then I do answer the phone.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: You do need that time, though. What do you have
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: in the works? Is there anything coming up that you
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: can share?
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: What do you have in the works, Lavelle?
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know we're gonna call this my manifestation corner
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: little segment right here. There's a lot that I see
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: joy that I just I know what's going to come
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: into fruition and I really don't know how. And I
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: share that because I think a lot of times, especially
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: when you're looked at as a bigger creator or someone
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: who made it out, they don't understand that, like, yeah,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: we made it to one point and I'm still having
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: to work and you know, kind of game plan on
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: what's next. I see a space like this for me next,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: and you know, that kind of answer to some questions here,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: but like something about the warmth of just talking to
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: a camera, just having a conversation, not having a food
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: in front of me, not having a drink in front
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: of me, not out in the world, and kind of
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: recording a certain angle just saying like, friend girl, today
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: is a tough day for me, and sharing why and
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: kind of giving an inspiration in a different way, and
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: kind of sharing kind of pieces of my life and
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: ways that inspire. That's really what I want to do next.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: And I think even as I'm seeing this, I'm like, yeah,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: you really do leavel. But also that TV thing has
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: to happen, like all the I love acting Boots so
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: much of this.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Are you too an actress? What you say?
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not an actress?
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Okay? Do you think you act? Sometimes in content though
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't think I am a good How
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: do I say this? My family always tells me I
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: wear my emotions on I sleep, but I don't have
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: access to a lot of my emotions. So yeah, no,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I've had I've had a I've had a rough go.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: So I shu.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I've got like these three that I can
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: bounce around, and I don't have the full range right now.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: So I don't know that I'm a good actress.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: It.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I am not a particularly good liar, so to speak.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Oh no, don't test me, okay, but because you know
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, but I don't. Yeah, I don't. I don't.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I don't like it, you know. But I do love producing.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I do love writing. I do love creating things for
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: other people and seeing those things come to life.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Love that I think you know when you make.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I always felt like acting will come into my life,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: even at Berry my freshman year, I like, went to
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: an audition for fun and get the lead role. So
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: this is something I always knew will come into fruition.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: And when I do like certain ads. You know some ads, baby,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: you have a fool if you're yet okay, acting.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Hundred.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: There are some elements of that, but like climbing into
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: another character skin, I don't know that I am the
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: right person for that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: What are you taking lessons?
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, and I am so.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I was so intimidated by it, and that is so
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: exciting to me. I've really got to make sure that
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: comes into life. Even the coach that I went in
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: the acting class with I did too. I did improv
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: and then I did like an acting on screen rehearsal.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Sorry I forget the name course, and both of my
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: coaches and both of the instructors are like, oh, you
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: got something special, and that little reminder, that little bump
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: has kind of been in the back of my mind
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: a lot too. So long story short, We're gonna have
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: a podcast. This is also a Joy exclusive. We're gonna
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: be on TV some way scripted, preferably. I'm kind of
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: open to the reality. But I really don't know how
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: I feel about that too much. But I would just say, really,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: what I'm working on is taking down my one billion
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: followers on TikTok and almost two hundred k on Instagram
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: and all the big numbers and letting that translate to
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: even a career outside of social media.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: That's my next big go. Yeah, and that's what I'm
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: acomp I.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: See all that for you. Yeah, you know, I did
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: do improv classes.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I did two courses of improv, but that was more
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: because I wanted to. I did live radio for many years,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: and then I was doing live television network television, and
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: so much about doing live.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Is like you got to keep talking. You have to
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: keep like there.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Is no no, like yes and yes, and to like
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: keep the conversation going.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: So I really just wanted to train my brain for that.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: But it's it does it's a little you know, it's
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: scary to step into something that you wanted to do
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and push yourself to do it.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: So I'm glad you're doing it.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: You're obviously in the right city. You will you will
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: definitely have that in your future.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: So I'm excited for that.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: I claim it all. Yeah, I believe for you.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, two final questions. What advice you have for creators
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: who want to get into space, who want to start
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: building their communities. You've talked a lot about your journey
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: and how you did it, but like you know, the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: world has changed quite a bit since, Like when you
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: were talking about TikTok was just for dancing. I mean,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: it is the you know, it's the place. Now, what
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: advice would you give to creators who want to build
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: a community.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Oh and let me really sit with this, because I
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: have a ton so I want to try to give
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: a quick blurb. I wish somebody would have told me
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: the true power of being authentic when I first started off.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like, because when you first start, you're trying
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: to figure it out and you're scared to kind of
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: carve your own lane. In a way, there's something so
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: powerful about just doing what you kind of see in
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: your head, you know, and just testing it out. So
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: my first point of advice is to always be authentic men, like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: show up as yourself, don't try to be like Joy,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: don't try to be like Lavell. And I'm the one
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: that says like you don't got to always rewrite the wheel,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Like if you like how our grocery shop, that's fine,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: it's another thing to go in grocery shop like lavel.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And I feel like in
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: points like even with my laugh and now, while the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: friend thing, all of that came because authentically that that's
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: what's said with me, that's what I wanted to try
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: and do. So when you're authentic, it also comes with
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: being consistent. Don't get frustrated when it doesn't work out,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: because that is going to happen. Flop videos are inevitable,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: even for me. It still happens to this day. But
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: it's something about staying the course on it. You get
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: so much better when you're more consistent. You get so
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: much better when you're like, all right, that video didn't
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: do well.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: I got the next one in a clip that I
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: think is really going to work.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: So the power being not only authentic but also consistent,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: it really plays a big part. But my last thing is,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: and this is my little point of advice that I
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: think maybe a little controversial, is like, oh, I feel
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: like we need more people who really see content as
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: a craft. I think everybody now likes to pick up
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: their phone and share their opinions or do a little
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: trend in sound, or be a little talking head or
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: try to find that viral moment. Nobody really wants to
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: create content. Nobody really wants to sit there and figure
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: out how to truly edit. Nobody wants to sit there
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: and really understand how do I tell my story and
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: I share even for how I lay out my content
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: so that I can really explain to y'all what I
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: mean by that. Right, I said be authentic, I said
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: be consistent. And my last point in creating content, I
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: have ideas all the time. I'm like, okay, level, let's
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: go and try that imitation crab that you've seen two
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: weeks ago. You because nine million views my highest moment,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: make it. Okay, this is.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I am not gonna make it, but okay, so you're
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: doing your advice because it I'll not.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: But when I say that, and when I say like
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I had the idea for the imitation crab, I have
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: been creating content for so long that I can produce
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: on the fly to the point where it feels like,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: oh my god, he just called me he was in
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: and so I'm like baby. I did that opening probably
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: three or four times because I wanted to feel a
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: certain way I have understood. Like for me, I hate
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: people my own terms of producing. I hate when people
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: don't show me stuff that we want to see. Like, girl, okay,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: how much was the imitation crav Did you go in
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: the store and where was it? In the store. That's
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: my personal thing. So I know I have to go
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: in the store. I have to show it off. I
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: have to give a price. We got to get it
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: off the show. Then I love in my new format
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: that is really working. I'm really giving all the jewels.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I know, like I also have to figure out a
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: way to do that and cook it and make it
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: and review it all in one video.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: That is what I want to produce right now.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: That is what I am creating, and that came with
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: me doing this so long that I can produce it
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: as we know, I can see it, and then I
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: can edit it to tell that story. Those videos that
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I'll be doing, I'll be having with thirty minutes worth
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: of content that I get down to three minutes. That
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: comes with time, That comes with work, that comes with consistence,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: that comes with actually creating something. So don't get so
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: focused on the numbers and the views, because many will
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: tell you, I'm sure Joey will, Yeah, you can have
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: a viral video if it really ain't nothing but a
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: sound and a funny little verb, people ain't gonna do
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: nothing but share it free in really mean that, really
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: find your niche in your content, Really go out there
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: and create something that you're proud of and make it
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: better each time. It's gonna suck in the beginning. I
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: can't even watch my old videos, do you hear me?
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: But boy, it's something about how long I've been doing
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: it and always holding myself accountable, wanting to be better,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: loving the craft of creating that is getting a little
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: lost in the soft That is really my biggest and
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: last point of advice to my up and coming creators.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Girl like create too.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: And you have the beats that are unique to you. Okay,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: so let's talk about the crap.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about the invitation crab, shut out the fam flub.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I I am this is my like creep social media thing.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I love watching cooking videos, cooking reviews, people chopping things up.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, shopping for the thing, like all of it. I
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: am going to cook none of this. I have so
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: many recipes, many not I I am not.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I tell you I make one recipe a year, I believe,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: and I've already made it, so we're not getting into
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: number two. I'm on a meal plan, so at home,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I'm eating out of my little container.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: Okay, but you also cook question.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: I travel so much. Can I cook it?
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, I can cook okay.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: But I don't like cooking just for myself because I
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: hate wasting food and like it's so hard to buy
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: enough for one person. Although I am a leftover queen.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I will reheat some food. Okay, I'm gonna.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Eat these leftovers.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: But I just like it is my like it's my
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: favorite praise to zoom scroll is cooking videos and like
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: people reviewing it so like that crab one, I was like, oh,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: that looks so good. I am not gonna make this,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: but it looks so my.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: God, it was really good.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: It wasn't really good.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And see this is my thing too, to people like,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I ain't a liar. I don't have to lie where
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I'm at in my career right now. Come on, Okay,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: everything that I taste, if I like it, There's why
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: there's a process to my taste buds. I'm like, I
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: really chew, I really taste, really like what's going on.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: And that one in particular was really good. I was
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: shocked by how good it was. I really was like,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: oh my goodness. And then I put a pound the
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: butter season and all the things that maybe made it
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: a little better.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: That definitely helps. But it was really good friend.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: And I didn't know that imitation crab was such a
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: controversial topic, like oh yeah.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: See that's the other things like the imitation though I don't.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Know, baby, there's a whole like, oh, social media there
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: hates imitation crab and there's a side that I loved
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: imitation crab.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: So I was just sitting middle like girl up, just
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: having fun. I came out of dancing. That's see.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: I thought you knew about it.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no clue.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: People people got their feelings about imitation pray.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: I was not ready for that part of it.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, and it just get bigger and bigger.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're doing nine million views in the week.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I just I didn't you know, you I know when
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: my videos are going to do well. But it's the
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: weirdest stuff that kind of like takes off. And I
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: was like, wow, that was very interesting level and I
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: would make it again.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, you should listen.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make it, but I if if the
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: you know, if the motivation strikes, and I will do
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: the imitation crab because I'm not doing okay, I'm not cooking.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing all that, but it looks so good.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: One of the things, though, I think I talked about
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: this on the first season of Too Personal, is I like,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I'm so in this. I'm so like that follower that
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: like likes and saves. But I'm like, not in the comments.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I'm the cooking videos, are you? I am okay, but
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: not silent. I will interact, I will, I will save,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: and I will I will heart, which counts yes, But
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I know the comments do the most, however, actually saves, help, saves,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: do help, save help and shares help too. Yeah, but
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I I did this Ran. I was like, y'all have
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: to leave the cooking people alone. I want to enjoy
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: watching these people cooking their home. They don't have to
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: wear gloves. Why do I care if this person's hand.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Is in the meat. I'm not eating the meat.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: And they're crazy, They're like, oh, you can't wash your
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: dishes in the sink? How is totch?
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I mean the vegetables, where's to watch them?
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I love that really, Like when it comes to that
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: thick skin piece, I really don't pay too much attention
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: to the comments, and I hate that, Like, now everything
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: has gotten so like you know, and this is me
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: really being transparent, especially with like black creators. I hate
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: when people go shopping or they do like the halls
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: and they give the disclaimers. It's like, girl, that ain't
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: gonna change nothing. So even with cooking, I'm like, I'm
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: gonna cook the way I want to cook.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: And you have everybody has an opinion, and everybody has
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: an opinion.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: They like you.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: You will give a recipe. This is my recipe. It
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: is like, well, that recipe doesn't call.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: It, it's my recipe. If you want to change it,
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: change it, okay.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, for the cooking things, oh my god, like
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: we have foot on men. The world is falling apart
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: its opinions for the government.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: It's the new day and age.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: And my creators stop letting them get in y'all heads
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: like oh, and I know it's easier sitting and done
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: even for me because I shared a person on everything,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Like for example, I want this ten thousand dollars, both
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: take a big and I really go. I not share
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: the price of stuff I buy because I'm like, no,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: y'all just trying to bully us out of seeing black
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: boys in luxury, seeing black gay boys and luxury sye
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: and black women in luxury like girl, we can buy
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: the stuff too.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: And in this day and.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Age, y'all gonna go and google the price and put
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: it in the comments. Anyway, get your money, not your money,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Pooky Pikes, Jesus, crisb Man.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: I need you to leave the people listen.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I need to watch these videos, okay, so you have
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: to stop bullying the people cooking.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: O leave the vel alone.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I don't care if you are pushing the onions into
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: the thing with your hands. By the way, for those
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: of you that don't know, these chefs, okay, that are
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: making all this money and these expensive meals, you peop,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: they not wearing gloves.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Baby, them kitchens that y'all love to run and eat at. Baby,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: if you went behind their.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Gloves, they're not wearing gloves.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: They might wear gloves when they're handling some ground meat, okay,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: or when they're they're they're coating something. They are chopping
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: that food up and cooking with their bare hands. They
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: wash them and it's actually more sanitary.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: To wash your hands. And they have this plastically. I'm
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: not gett into it about this before. I need this
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: for my mental health.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, I need them to keep baking food videos so
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: that I can doom scroll in peace.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Please. These people are cooking in their own home for
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: their families, not worrying about it.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: You're not eating it bugs, and all the time.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: You don't have to cook it this way. You can
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: do whatever you want. Stop bullying. Stop bullying the home chefs,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: and tell us.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: One thing about the invitation crip. I'm like, what is
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: the whole life?
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: It was like, well, I don't know how this is made.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, but I'm sure it's made like
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: a hot dog or something in the North.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: I swear to you. May pick up that inmitation crab
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  Speaker 3: I said, oh, I.
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  Speaker 4: Did not know. I was so blind side of it.
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  Speaker 4: I was so blindsided about it.
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  Speaker 1: I know this is not but you know what, though,
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  Speaker 1: I would do the same thing, okay, but I'm just
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  Speaker 1: not brave enough.
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  Speaker 3: That's the other thing too.
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  Speaker 1: I when I cook for me or when I cook
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  Speaker 1: for other people, I'm cooking the way that I cook it,
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  Speaker 1: and they're gonna eat it, and it's gonna be good.
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  Speaker 3: On the internet. For the Internet of food critics, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not doing it. I'm not that brave.
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  Speaker 2: It's so fun to me though, you know, we really
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  Speaker 2: live in a cloud addiction era. Baby, everybody wants a moment,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll really just take it as some people want
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  Speaker 2: think moment in the comments because they do get it.
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  Speaker 4: Like them, negative comments be going up.
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  Speaker 3: They do the you.
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  Speaker 1: Got it listen, make make your your imitation crab. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna keep doing it. Yeah, it looks it looks really good.
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  Speaker 1: But I was telling you, I was like, this looks
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  Speaker 1: so good. I am not gonna make it. And I
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  Speaker 1: know it's about to be a war in.
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  Speaker 2: I sat there like, oh god it. My friends was
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