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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How do two people deeply
- 0:15Speaker 1: in love end up dead? And their ocean front mansion
- 0:20Speaker 1: and Surf City Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Take a
- 0:35Speaker 1: listen to our friends at crime online dot com. This
- 0:39Speaker 1: is Jackie Howard cut One. His name is John, but
- 0:42Speaker 1: people called him Jack. Her name was Francois, but she
- 0:46Speaker 1: answered to Frenchie. The two met nearly twenty years ago,
- 0:49Speaker 1: introduced by a mutual friend, and they hit it off.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Jack Enders was a widower and Frenchie Patoy, a divorcee.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Enders an Air Force veteran of the Korean War, love
- 0:59Speaker 1: the water, boating and fishing. He used his mechanical engineering
- 1:03Speaker 1: degree to build homes. Enders was a mason who loved
- 1:06Speaker 1: to cook and decorate his refrigerator with artwork from his
- 1:09Speaker 1: neighbor's grandchildren. Frenchie but Toy was known as a dynamo
- 1:13Speaker 1: with style. She had a hat to match nearly every
- 1:16Speaker 1: outfit and loved rhinestones. But Toy worked as a nursing
- 1:20Speaker 1: home Alzheimer's specialist and served the Surf City Volunteer Fire
- 1:23Speaker 1: Departments Women Auxiliary by visiting the firefighters angling relatives. Wow
- 1:29Speaker 1: a war vet with a girlfriend who loves hats with
- 1:32Speaker 1: every outfit and rhinestones. I would love to meet these two,
- 1:37Speaker 1: but we'll never get the chance. They're dead, found dead
- 1:40Speaker 1: in their oceanfront and mansion. They're in Surf City. What
- 1:45Speaker 1: do we know about this couple? What do we know
- 1:48Speaker 1: about their death? Again? Thanks for being with us here
- 1:51Speaker 1: at Crime Stories. Let me introduce you an all star
- 1:54Speaker 1: panel to break it down and put it back together
- 1:56Speaker 1: again with me. Jason Campo, Chief Prosecute joining us from
- 2:00Speaker 1: Cameron County, Texas. Five years in the DA's Office Family
- 2:04Speaker 1: Violence Unit. Doctor Alan Blocky, PhD. Forensics psychologists, joining us
- 2:10Speaker 1: out of Birmingham, specializing in criminal cases, and boy do
- 2:15Speaker 1: we need him? Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University. An author
- 2:19Speaker 1: of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, star of a
- 2:22Speaker 1: new hit series Body Bags with Joe Scott Morgan on iHeart,
- 2:27Speaker 1: But for a straight out to Crime Online dot Com
- 2:29Speaker 1: investigative reporter Jacqueline Gray. Jacqueline, thank you for being with us.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Tell me about the ocean front mansion that they shared
- 2:39Speaker 1: in Surf City. What is Surf City? It's that a
- 2:42Speaker 1: tourist destination? Is it a quiet town beside the water?
- 2:47Speaker 1: What is it. But like you said, Surf City is
- 2:49Speaker 1: a large tourist attraction. They only have about a thousand
- 2:54Speaker 1: people's population, and it's only a mile and a half long.
- 2:58Speaker 1: But it's situated right on the Atlantic and it's about
- 3:01Speaker 1: a half hour from Atlantic City, and tourists usually go
- 3:06Speaker 1: there mainly to serve look at attractions. They don't have
- 3:09Speaker 1: a boardwalk, so it's a lot of home embarking a
- 3:13Speaker 1: borough in Ocean City. It's what I understand is a population.
- 3:19Speaker 1: It's only twelve hundred people, twelve hundred five, down from
- 3:25Speaker 1: fourteen forty two. But catch this. Even at its coldest,
- 3:31Speaker 1: it's only fifty three degrees. Population twelve hundred and seventy one. Wow,
- 3:38Speaker 1: I'm looking at all these beautiful ocean shots. It sounds
- 3:42Speaker 1: like a beautiful place to live for this couple. Now,
- 3:45Speaker 1: one is a widower, one is a divorcee. Joe Scott Morgan,
- 3:50Speaker 1: It matters, It matters, you know. You hear real estate
- 3:54Speaker 1: people say all the time, location, location, Location. We say
- 3:57Speaker 1: that in crime too, Joe Scott, Why yeah, we do, Nancy,
- 4:00Speaker 1: And we begin to think about who in the world
- 4:05Speaker 1: would have wanted to do harm to this couple. You
- 4:08Speaker 1: know they lived this kind of becolic life. They're you know,
- 4:11Speaker 1: enjoying themselves out there on the waterfront. Who would want
- 4:15Speaker 1: to bring harm to these people and visit literally hell
- 4:18Speaker 1: upon them in this beautiful location. Straight out to Jason Campo,
- 4:22Speaker 1: chief Prosecutor, joining us out of Cameron County, Texas. Jason,
- 4:26Speaker 1: you wonder at and we're about to get into the
- 4:28Speaker 1: brutal nature of the murders. But they were living in
- 4:31Speaker 1: at one point nine million dollar mansion. I could think
- 4:35Speaker 1: of a lot of people that would ride by that
- 4:38Speaker 1: mansion and this wealthy enclave and think, Wow, I thought
- 4:41Speaker 1: I could score a big screen TV out of there.
- 4:44Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm thinking of it. We're
- 4:47Speaker 1: getting up on Christmas time, and no Christmas at our
- 4:50Speaker 1: house is complete without of course the night before Christmas
- 4:55Speaker 1: with Kermit, but all the home alone, all of them,
- 5:01Speaker 1: they have to be watched over and over and over
- 5:04Speaker 1: leading up to Christmas. And do you remember the two
- 5:10Speaker 1: burglars that did everything wrong? I think one was Joe Passy,
- 5:14Speaker 1: and they would ride by these mansions and the smart
- 5:20Speaker 1: one pass You would go stocks and bonds, jewels, artwork,
- 5:26Speaker 1: all the things he thought he was going to take
- 5:29Speaker 1: out of Acauli Culkin's Home. Do you remember that? I
- 5:32Speaker 1: do remember it, That's what right when I was growing
- 5:36Speaker 1: up too, so I saw all those movies and unfortunately,
- 5:39Speaker 1: you know, people moved to these I don't know what
- 5:41Speaker 1: you're talking about. According to me, I wasn't born them.
- 5:43Speaker 1: But go ahead, these move you know, these little towns.
- 5:47Speaker 1: People moved there to be safe, and but people see
- 5:50Speaker 1: them as marks, especially these exclusive little communities where all
- 5:55Speaker 1: the houses are worth millions of dollars and everybody lives
- 5:59Speaker 1: a lavish lifeld in people's eyes and they think maybe
- 6:02Speaker 1: it'll be a great quick score for them. You know
- 6:05Speaker 1: what's interesting is you've got this guy, the victim, Jack Enders,
- 6:10Speaker 1: and his girlfriend, Frenchie Pitoy, and they have worked their
- 6:16Speaker 1: whole life, their whole life. He's a World War vet,
- 6:20Speaker 1: she's still working. It's not like they were born with
- 6:24Speaker 1: the silver spoons stuck in their mouth. It's not like that.
- 6:28Speaker 1: But I think you're right. And in these little enclaves,
- 6:33Speaker 1: people aren't used to crime. They may leave their doors unlocked,
- 6:37Speaker 1: they may not have a home alarm, they may leave
- 6:41Speaker 1: their cars unlocked because they're just not used to violent
- 6:45Speaker 1: crime and perps are like predators, Jason Campo and I
- 6:51Speaker 1: always compare it to the hyena or the jackal out
- 6:55Speaker 1: on the savannah, and you've got the beautiful gazelle grazing
- 7:00Speaker 1: or drinking at the water hole, and they're just waiting
- 7:04Speaker 1: to close in, and they only have to get one
- 7:07Speaker 1: the slowest, the weakest. So I think you're right that
- 7:12Speaker 1: perps drive along and they see these homes and they
- 7:16Speaker 1: imagine everything they're going to be able to steal. But
- 7:19Speaker 1: what happens when you go in and the people are home, Jason,
- 7:25Speaker 1: That's how it always escalates, right. You always think, oh,
- 7:27Speaker 1: maybe this house is dark, it's in the middle of
- 7:29Speaker 1: the night, they'll be in bed or something, and we
- 7:32Speaker 1: can get in and get out. And then it's always
- 7:35Speaker 1: what they say, best laid plans go astray, and there's
- 7:38Speaker 1: never a lot of thought process behind these types of
- 7:42Speaker 1: crimes when they're breaking into houses like that. Take a
- 7:44Speaker 1: listen to our cut to from our friends at Crime Online.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Frenchie Ptoy's daughter and son in law, who live in
- 7:50Speaker 1: Virginia Beach, hadn't heard from Frenchy and was unable to
- 7:53Speaker 1: contact her, so Valerie Lewis Evans asked to serve City
- 7:56Speaker 1: police for a wellness check. Officers approach the home and
- 8:00Speaker 1: see through a rear window what appears to be the
- 8:02Speaker 1: body of a deceased male sitting in a brown recliner
- 8:06Speaker 1: on the first floor. As officers approached the front, they
- 8:09Speaker 1: spot another body on the stairs leading down to the
- 8:11Speaker 1: living area. As police continue their search, they find blood
- 8:15Speaker 1: in several areas throughout the home, as well as a
- 8:18Speaker 1: bloody footprint and shoeprints, a discarded rubber glove on the stairs,
- 8:22Speaker 1: and blood on a fence post in the backyard. Jack
- 8:26Speaker 1: Enders and Frenchie Buttoy had been dead for at least
- 8:28Speaker 1: five days. We are talking about the brutal murtyrs of
- 8:32Speaker 1: the World War Vet and his girlfriend Frenchie, who loves
- 8:36Speaker 1: rhine stems and hats to match every outfit. You know,
- 8:39Speaker 1: what a joy for living. That tells me she had
- 8:43Speaker 1: but her life cut short and in a brutal way.
- 8:47Speaker 1: What happened to them exactly? Listen to this autopsy. Details
- 8:51Speaker 1: show the murders were brutal. Jack Enders had been stabbed
- 8:54Speaker 1: multiple times and beaten about the face and head. His
- 8:57Speaker 1: right carrottid artery severed point was also stabbed, but she
- 9:01Speaker 1: was shot in the face. That finding prompted the medical
- 9:05Speaker 1: examiner to look at Ender's body again. Both adults had
- 9:09Speaker 1: been shot in the face with a handgun. I don't
- 9:11Speaker 1: know if you caught that, but I was listening and
- 9:13Speaker 1: I thought, oh, one person was stabbed and the other shot.
- 9:17Speaker 1: That'sen years. You old to have two different emos at
- 9:20Speaker 1: the same crime scene. And it alerted authorities as well
- 9:25Speaker 1: when they were looking at the facts, and they asked
- 9:26Speaker 1: them to look again, and sure enough, themos were the same.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace Jacqueline Gray joining me from
- 9:46Speaker 1: crime online dot Com. Jacqueline tell me about the cops
- 9:50Speaker 1: arriving and what they found. The cops arrived to a
- 9:54Speaker 1: pretty much a bluesome scene. Once they went inside, there
- 9:57Speaker 1: was a lot all over the house. Hey, jaque, wait
- 10:01Speaker 1: a minute. So my understanding is the cops get there
- 10:05Speaker 1: and they look in the window and they see somebody
- 10:09Speaker 1: sitting in an easy chair. Is that right? Yeah, that's correct.
- 10:13Speaker 1: They did. They saw John sitting in a chair. I
- 10:17Speaker 1: want to tell you what somebody said, Jacqueline that's familiar
- 10:20Speaker 1: with this and we were talking about the case, said
- 10:21Speaker 1: it was just like in the movies. The movies are
- 10:24Speaker 1: just like in real life. This is not just like
- 10:27Speaker 1: the movies where you look in and you see a
- 10:30Speaker 1: person sitting there seemingly watching TV, and then you go
- 10:33Speaker 1: in and look at them and they're dead. This is
- 10:36Speaker 1: the real thing. The movies are like this. This is
- 10:39Speaker 1: not like the movies, Jacqueline Gray. So they look in,
- 10:42Speaker 1: they see somebody sitting kicks back in an easy chair,
- 10:45Speaker 1: and then what happens. So they look and they see
- 10:49Speaker 1: somebody in the chair and start to look, and there's
- 10:54Speaker 1: bloods in the house. And they go in and they look.
- 10:57Speaker 1: There's blood. They find John's body, and they find another
- 11:02Speaker 1: body on the stairs, which is Frenchy. And they know
- 11:06Speaker 1: that not only the blood but a discarded blood on
- 11:10Speaker 1: the stairs as well, and not only with their blood
- 11:14Speaker 1: inside the home, but there's also blood on a fence
- 11:18Speaker 1: near the presidence where they obviously were trying to get
- 11:21Speaker 1: out through that fence. I think it was in the backyard.
- 11:24Speaker 1: And that also indicates to me, to you, Joseph's got
- 11:27Speaker 1: more gunned. That Frenchy, the girlfriend was trying to get
- 11:31Speaker 1: away by going up the stairs, would be my guess. Yeah,
- 11:36Speaker 1: I think that you're probably right. Trying to flee away
- 11:38Speaker 1: from danger, put as much distance between yourself and this attacker.
- 11:42Speaker 1: You know, when I hear about this, Nancy, A lot
- 11:45Speaker 1: of folks that have never been out on a case
- 11:47Speaker 1: that involves a sharp horse injury like stab wound. They
- 11:51Speaker 1: don't understand how complicated and layered a cases like this.
- 11:56Speaker 1: For every insult, every little injury that occurs to a
- 11:59Speaker 1: body create a hole in the body of defect, as
- 12:02Speaker 1: we call it. Blood begins to leak out of that area.
- 12:05Speaker 1: And when you have two individuals that are attacked like this,
- 12:09Speaker 1: you get what's called commingling a blood. So you have
- 12:11Speaker 1: to you don't know what's what here. You know you're
- 12:14Speaker 1: looking for bloody footprints, You're looking for bloody handprints. They
- 12:17Speaker 1: even talking about a glove here. Ooh ooh. You just
- 12:20Speaker 1: reminded me of another case with a glove in the
- 12:22Speaker 1: front yard. Remember Tara Grinstead. Oh yeah, in Georgia in
- 12:27Speaker 1: the case when unsoft for so many years and some
- 12:30Speaker 1: person left a glove in the frontyard. I mean, people think, oh,
- 12:36Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear a glove so I don't leave fingerprints.
- 12:39Speaker 1: But what an idiot to leave the glove behind because
- 12:43Speaker 1: your prints are on the inside of the glove sometimes,
- 12:48Speaker 1: but sadly not always. Guys, take a listen to our
- 12:51Speaker 1: cut five. This is our friend Trish Hartman six ABC.
- 12:55Speaker 1: They were great together. She could care less what he
- 13:00Speaker 1: had or if he didn't have. They were membering for
- 13:02Speaker 1: each other. John Gophez lives in Surf City on Long
- 13:05Speaker 1: Beach Island, a few doors down from the home of
- 13:07Speaker 1: John Enders, which he shared with Francois Patoy. Gophas says,
- 13:11Speaker 1: they've been together for nineteen years, and we're better known
- 13:14Speaker 1: as Jack and French, eating out back washed the setting sun.
- 13:18Speaker 1: French out there on the deck. This bayfront home on
- 13:21Speaker 1: North seventh Street was where the bodies of the couple
- 13:23Speaker 1: were discovered on October third. I'm thinking about that, these
- 13:28Speaker 1: two seniors having been together nearly twenty years, sitting on
- 13:33Speaker 1: their back porch looking out at the ocean, and it
- 13:39Speaker 1: reminds me of my mom and dad. After they retired.
- 13:44Speaker 1: They worked so hard their whole lives, and they built
- 13:50Speaker 1: a screen in porch, and they didn't have an ocean
- 13:54Speaker 1: to look at, but they had the backyard, and my
- 13:57Speaker 1: dad and mom worked so hard in that yard. They
- 14:00Speaker 1: had to have a bird fountain. Many tears. That was
- 14:05Speaker 1: my father's pride and joy. He built with his own
- 14:08Speaker 1: hands a patio, laid it beautifully, and a little brick
- 14:13Speaker 1: walkway to it. And they have beautiful palmetto bushes, all
- 14:18Speaker 1: sorts of bushes, flowers, trees. They built a beautiful brick
- 14:25Speaker 1: fence along the back and all the plants would grow
- 14:28Speaker 1: up against it. My point is they would sit out
- 14:32Speaker 1: there and have coffee and turn on the ceiling fan
- 14:37Speaker 1: and look out into the backyard. And after all their
- 14:42Speaker 1: decades of hard work putting us through college, they got
- 14:47Speaker 1: to sit back and look at the backyard. And I'm
- 14:51Speaker 1: just imagining Jack Enders and Friendship at Toy sitting on
- 14:56Speaker 1: their back deck looking out of the ocean. They're hard
- 15:02Speaker 1: labors done and just enjoying the golden years of their
- 15:09Speaker 1: life and loving life. And their neighbors love them. Two
- 15:16Speaker 1: wonderful people, still volunteering and doing good work. Who would
- 15:23Speaker 1: come in like a wolf and just destroy them this way?
- 15:32Speaker 1: Take a listen again, This is our cut. Six is
- 15:35Speaker 1: Trish Hartman at six ABC. John Gophers says Enders had
- 15:40Speaker 1: recently decided to sell the Surf City home. The crime
- 15:42Speaker 1: shocked the community on LBI Katoy was a member of
- 15:46Speaker 1: the Surf City Fire Company Women's Auxiliary, and a memorial
- 15:49Speaker 1: on social media they called her an active and much
- 15:52Speaker 1: loved member of our organization. John Gophers says he misses
- 15:56Speaker 1: his friends and hopes for closure. Trail Will wouldn't the
- 16:03Speaker 1: whole neighbors, the whole neighborhood, all the neighbors in shock
- 16:07Speaker 1: when this loving senior couple just just hatchetted down. You know,
- 16:13Speaker 1: I'm looking at the way they were killed. Joe Scott
- 16:16Speaker 1: Morgan And typically when a burglar comes in and I
- 16:21Speaker 1: want to go to you on this, doctor Alan Blockey
- 16:23Speaker 1: and Jason Campo, I prosecuted so many burglaries, but my
- 16:29Speaker 1: analysis is not anecdotal, in other words, based on an
- 16:33Speaker 1: anecdote or a story. It's statistics that route this story. Typically,
- 16:39Speaker 1: when burglars come in your home to steal your TV
- 16:44Speaker 1: or whatever they want to steal, and they realize somebody's home,
- 16:48Speaker 1: typically they leave. I'm very rarely will they attack the person,
- 16:55Speaker 1: because that's not really why they're there. The whole burglary phenomena,
- 17:00Speaker 1: Doctor Alan Blockkey, it's it's a mental thing, like a
- 17:04Speaker 1: peeping tom. It's something up here that they want they're voyeuristic.
- 17:11Speaker 1: A burglar actually likes going in to somebody's house and
- 17:16Speaker 1: creeping around. They like going in the idea I've got.
- 17:20Speaker 1: You know, when you go in somebody else's house, and
- 17:23Speaker 1: it's a lot different when you're invited in for like
- 17:25Speaker 1: a party or a dinner or something, as opposed to
- 17:28Speaker 1: somebody says, hey, can you go over and feed my dog?
- 17:30Speaker 1: When I'm out of town and you go over and
- 17:32Speaker 1: they're not home, it's kind of an eerie, freaky feeling.
- 17:37Speaker 1: I don't want to go look through their stuff. I
- 17:38Speaker 1: don't want to go anywhere but to feed the dog
- 17:41Speaker 1: and leave because it's too I don't know. There's something
- 17:45Speaker 1: eerie about it to me, going in somebody else's home
- 17:47Speaker 1: when they're not there, But burglars love it, and it's
- 17:53Speaker 1: hard to stop a burglar. Now, Blockkey, I know you're
- 17:58Speaker 1: the PhD, just an MD. I'm just a JD. But
- 18:01Speaker 1: I can tell you this. I've noticed that sex offenders,
- 18:08Speaker 1: specifically child molesters and rapists, they don't get rehabbed. I
- 18:11Speaker 1: don't care what you want to tell me. Burglars don't
- 18:15Speaker 1: get rehabbed. Those are two criminals, and I guess I
- 18:22Speaker 1: gotta throw a habitual violators, drunk drivers, they can't get rehabbed.
- 18:27Speaker 1: I don't care what stat you want to tell me
- 18:29Speaker 1: or what PhD up at Harvard University says something about
- 18:33Speaker 1: burglars they can't stop themselves. But why kill Blockkey? Well,
- 18:37Speaker 1: I guess the only time that burglar would kill is
- 18:40Speaker 1: if they're surprised. If they think they're cornered and there's
- 18:46Speaker 1: no way for them to get out, they will strike out.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Oh you mean like a door, the same door they
- 18:51Speaker 1: came in on. Yeah, exactly. They can't take the patent
- 18:54Speaker 1: turner Patton Street and turn a corner, right, sad situation
- 18:58Speaker 1: to me? That the interesting thing is that this man
- 19:01Speaker 1: was found in his recliner, Doctor Blocky, You're right. If
- 19:05Speaker 1: the burglar had been just surprised by seeing him there
- 19:10Speaker 1: and his recliner, for all I know, he could have
- 19:12Speaker 1: snuck out the same way snuck in and the victim
- 19:16Speaker 1: would never have even known he was there. Right, And
- 19:19Speaker 1: he certainly wasn't a threat, Doctor Block, I hadn't thought
- 19:22Speaker 1: of that. Crime stories with Nancy Grace, Jason Campo. Did
- 19:41Speaker 1: you hear what doctor Allen Block He just said? He's
- 19:43Speaker 1: right and back me up on this thing about burglars.
- 19:46Speaker 1: There's something totally freaky about them. You know, this is
- 19:50Speaker 1: one of those crimes where once you get that taste
- 19:52Speaker 1: of it, I think you can never stop doing it
- 19:55Speaker 1: because there's no way to replace it, right Like you
- 19:57Speaker 1: you don't just normally go into somebody else his house
- 20:00Speaker 1: and then just walk around and leave without taking something.
- 20:03Speaker 1: So they're always looking for that again. I think they
- 20:05Speaker 1: get some kind of a thrill for it. And then
- 20:08Speaker 1: not only him and his recliner, but her being found
- 20:11Speaker 1: on the stairs. That means they either chased her up
- 20:14Speaker 1: the stairs or she was coming down the stairs when
- 20:17Speaker 1: she heard a noise and they still went up the
- 20:19Speaker 1: stairs to meet her, right So that shows that they
- 20:21Speaker 1: weren't looking for an exit. You know another thing it
- 20:25Speaker 1: could be, and I think doctor Blockee was walking all
- 20:29Speaker 1: around this. Doctor Blocky, you were saying something about why
- 20:35Speaker 1: Jack Enders had to be killed and not just him,
- 20:41Speaker 1: his girlfriend, Frenchie Patoy, Francois Frenchie Patoy. You said something
- 20:49Speaker 1: about maybe they could identify. Is that what you were
- 20:52Speaker 1: saying the defendant? That is what I was saying, fairly
- 20:56Speaker 1: suggesting We've got a really good point you know another
- 21:00Speaker 1: interesting thing that Jason Campo was just saying, doctor Blocky
- 21:04Speaker 1: is instead of just all right, let's just say, let's
- 21:08Speaker 1: just hypothesize they got surprised by Jack in his easy chair.
- 21:15Speaker 1: What if he sat up and looked around? Why didn't
- 21:19Speaker 1: they if they felt they had to kill him, kill
- 21:22Speaker 1: him and leave. Why did they then chase Frenchie up
- 21:27Speaker 1: the stairs to murder her right there on the stairs. Yeah,
- 21:32Speaker 1: you would have thought a burglar would have gotten out
- 21:34Speaker 1: of there as quickly as possible, a sap not chase
- 21:41Speaker 1: the second person. Yeah, you're right, why chase her down? Exactly? Two?
- 21:46Speaker 1: Just got Morgan. Jackie here in the studio is reminding me.
- 21:51Speaker 1: There was blood upstairs and downstairs, not just on the
- 21:56Speaker 1: stairs where Frenchy was killed, but upstairs too. That tells
- 22:01Speaker 1: me after they killed her, they went around, They went
- 22:05Speaker 1: around the home, leaving blood trail. Yeah, blood trails is correct, Nancy.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Bloody footprints, bloody shoeprints. That means that they traps through
- 22:15Speaker 1: this blood. There had been a blood letting, they walked
- 22:18Speaker 1: through it, and they weren't paying enough at tension to
- 22:20Speaker 1: realize what they were doing, leaving those traces behind and
- 22:23Speaker 1: you can literally track the people through here. And then
- 22:26Speaker 1: you know, seemingly they just take a club off Nancy
- 22:30Speaker 1: that they're using to hide their identity, I guess, and
- 22:33Speaker 1: leave it behind. It sounds very very disorganized to me.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Is that or sloppy either they didn't realize they had
- 22:40Speaker 1: left it. You know, multiple obvious stab wounds when cops
- 22:46Speaker 1: got there at four pm on a Sunday afternoon. You
- 22:50Speaker 1: know that quiet feeling that comes over on Sunday afternoons.
- 22:54Speaker 1: The cops are there, everything's quiet, The cops say, quote
- 22:59Speaker 1: it was read apparent they were deceased. They didn't have
- 23:03Speaker 1: to rush over and see if there was a pulse.
- 23:05Speaker 1: They knew. The cops knew multiple stab wounds according to police.
- 23:12Speaker 1: That's telling me something right there, Joe Scott Morgan, what
- 23:15Speaker 1: do you want to kill him ten times over? Stab
- 23:18Speaker 1: him that many times? You remember Jody Arius how she
- 23:21Speaker 1: stabbed Travis Alexander, her lover. Oh, let's say, I think
- 23:25Speaker 1: it's about twenty nine times, and then capped him in
- 23:28Speaker 1: the head with a gun. Yeah, she did. She murdered
- 23:31Speaker 1: him about twenty times over with all the stab wounds
- 23:35Speaker 1: to the torso and then shooting him in the head.
- 23:39Speaker 1: Why murder these two nine times over? Yeah? I know.
- 23:45Speaker 1: And when you think about this Nancy, this was particularly
- 23:47Speaker 1: brutal because there were noted three different types of injuries.
- 23:52Speaker 1: We've got a gunshot wound, we've got stab wounds, and
- 23:54Speaker 1: let's don't forget, there was also blunt force trauma. This
- 23:58Speaker 1: poor man had been in the face that you know,
- 24:01Speaker 1: for me as a death investigator, when I see that's
- 24:04Speaker 1: that's very personal. You're sending a message with that that
- 24:08Speaker 1: indicates that there was a lot of hatred towards this individual,
- 24:12Speaker 1: of anger, a lot of anger. Yep. Rage. It may
- 24:15Speaker 1: not be anger toward him, but rage and anger, yes,
- 24:18Speaker 1: and you know the injury. One of the really important
- 24:22Speaker 1: things to note here is that the articles specifically talk
- 24:25Speaker 1: about his karated vessel was cut. Now, the karated, Nancy
- 24:31Speaker 1: is very deep in the neck. It's not like the
- 24:32Speaker 1: juggler vein, it's kind of external. That karated is very deep.
- 24:36Speaker 1: They really had to take this knife and go deep
- 24:39Speaker 1: inside the tissue in order to do that. So that
- 24:41Speaker 1: gives you an up close and personal idea as to
- 24:44Speaker 1: what's happening. And then on top of this, you're going
- 24:46Speaker 1: to strike this man in the face. I think I'd
- 24:49Speaker 1: like to know what those patterns reveal with the strikes
- 24:53Speaker 1: the blunt force trauma. Did he get pistol whipped or
- 24:56Speaker 1: were these closed hand hits blunt force? He was sustained.
- 25:01Speaker 1: The investigation launches full on to find out he murdered
- 25:08Speaker 1: Jack Enders and his longtime love Franchipatoy take a listen
- 25:14Speaker 1: to our cup four our friends at crime Online, and
- 25:16Speaker 1: affidavit of the investigation says surveillance cameras on the Long
- 25:20Speaker 1: Beach Island Bridge captured footage of a two thousand and
- 25:23Speaker 1: three four Winnebago, a twenty eight foot RV before dawn
- 25:27Speaker 1: around four forty three am. That same Winnebago is captured
- 25:31Speaker 1: ten minutes later by a ring doorbell camera pulling up
- 25:34Speaker 1: to the Enders home. An hour later, the vehicle is
- 25:37Speaker 1: recorded again heading away from the home with its lights off.
- 25:40Speaker 1: But that's not the only video recorded. At five fifty three,
- 25:44Speaker 1: someone in oversized clothing can be seen walking along Seventh Street,
- 25:48Speaker 1: where the couple lived. Then at six forty two, in
- 25:52Speaker 1: the backyard of the Ender property, a person holding an
- 25:55Speaker 1: orange bag climbs over a fence into a neighboring yard.
- 25:59Speaker 1: A minute later, and Exfinity camera spots someone walking again,
- 26:03Speaker 1: this time on sixth Street. The individual is determined to
- 26:06Speaker 1: be about five feet eight inches tall. Two hours after
- 26:10Speaker 1: the RB arrived on Long Beach Island, it's seemed again
- 26:13Speaker 1: traveling back across the bridge off the island. A license
- 26:16Speaker 1: plate reader at the entrance to the Garden State Parkway
- 26:19Speaker 1: captures the RBS registration number. Wow, that was a lot
- 26:24Speaker 1: of information. Jacqueline Gray, crimal line dot Com investigative reporter.
- 26:27Speaker 1: Let me understand this. The getaway car was a Winnebago RV. Yes,
- 26:33Speaker 1: it was an RV, which is probably one of the words. Okay,
- 26:37Speaker 1: you don't see that very often, Jacqueline, Not too often
- 26:41Speaker 1: does the killer drive up at an RV and that's
- 26:45Speaker 1: the getaway car. And then they're wearing oversized clothes. What
- 26:51Speaker 1: does that mean? Are they trying to disguise themselves? Is
- 26:53Speaker 1: that all they have? Why? But in a neighborhood like this,
- 26:58Speaker 1: you can bet your bottom dollar a lot of people
- 27:00Speaker 1: are going to have ring or doorbell. Kim's like a ring.
- 27:04Speaker 1: There's going to be surveillance. They one surveillance catches a
- 27:09Speaker 1: person on seventh one surveillance catches them on six one surveillance.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Somebody else's catches them climbing over the back fence, but
- 27:17Speaker 1: nobody can make a yes and a bridge, so nobody's
- 27:23Speaker 1: able to make an ID. But that is just way off,
- 27:28Speaker 1: doctor Alan Blocky. Now, I don't know why, but I
- 27:31Speaker 1: can tell you this much. I've never seen a getaway
- 27:35Speaker 1: in an RV, a Winnebago, a big honk and Winnebago
- 27:39Speaker 1: has got to tell you something, Block keep it what? Yeah, Well,
- 27:43Speaker 1: I guess immediately it tells me it's probably not a burglary, right,
- 27:46Speaker 1: he tells me it's not a professional Winnebago. Well, I
- 27:50Speaker 1: don't know. If they drive up in a Winnebago hoping
- 27:52Speaker 1: to clear the whole house out of all the electronics,
- 27:55Speaker 1: all the furniture, everything, could do that. It's like pulling
- 27:59Speaker 1: up in a moving van. But it also tells me
- 28:03Speaker 1: this is not a pro This is not a burglar
- 28:07Speaker 1: that you know has ever done this before. I mean
- 28:10Speaker 1: using a Winnebago. Jason Campo, you ever seen a Winnebago
- 28:15Speaker 1: an RV as a getaway, I've never seen it. They
- 28:18Speaker 1: definitely were not expecting a high speed chase afterwards. So
- 28:22Speaker 1: it was. It tells me maybe that they thought that
- 28:25Speaker 1: this is a vehicle that would blend in more since
- 28:28Speaker 1: it is an affluent neighborhood. Maybe a vehicle moving around
- 28:31Speaker 1: early in the morning is something that they have seen
- 28:35Speaker 1: before as people start to leave for the winner. Oh no, Jason,
- 28:40Speaker 1: I mean I would remember a Winnebago. There are two
- 28:46Speaker 1: that park in our neighborhood, one on the street of
- 28:50Speaker 1: some and it comes periodically, so I guess it's out
- 28:52Speaker 1: of town family. It's awesome. It's a stream. It's an
- 28:56Speaker 1: airstream or stream, one of those silver ones, and it's
- 29:00Speaker 1: so neat and I love to RV and camp, so
- 29:02Speaker 1: always look at it. And then there's a really big
- 29:05Speaker 1: one that shows up further down the street around holidays,
- 29:10Speaker 1: So I guess that's family coming in for holidays, and
- 29:13Speaker 1: they park right in front of the house by the
- 29:15Speaker 1: front door. I guess that they can run in and out.
- 29:18Speaker 1: So I noticed them because I'm a little envious. But
- 29:23Speaker 1: I would notice and RV okay, and so would everybody
- 29:27Speaker 1: else that saw it. Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm
- 29:44Speaker 1: wanting you to take a listen to something else we discover.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut eleven, when police arrived
- 29:53Speaker 1: at Pepernin's home, a car scene leaving the property, will
- 29:56Speaker 1: stopped Joseph Heverernin, Sherry's sun was driving, according to Belize,
- 30:00Speaker 1: without prompting, he started talking about his grandfather's death. Joseph
- 30:05Speaker 1: Heffernan said he had not seen his grandfather in six
- 30:07Speaker 1: months since his May graduation. In a recorded interview, he
- 30:11Speaker 1: said that family relations were strained because Sherry Lee Heffernan
- 30:14Speaker 1: thought her father's nearly twenty year companion was a gold
- 30:17Speaker 1: digger who was pressuring enders to sell the beach house. Okay,
- 30:21Speaker 1: Jason Campo, Usually when you think of a gold digger,
- 30:26Speaker 1: you think of some sexy, skippily dressed woman going after
- 30:32Speaker 1: a ninety five year old guy who's, let me just imagine,
- 30:39Speaker 1: steering his own yacht somewhere and one of those captain's outfits.
- 30:43Speaker 1: That's what I think of as a gold digger, not
- 30:45Speaker 1: an elderly woman frenchie patoy who likes to bedazzle her
- 30:52Speaker 1: clothes and wear different hats. And also that's some scheme.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say she's in it for the long game.
- 30:58Speaker 1: I mean, she's been dating this guy. She's been with
- 31:00Speaker 1: him for twenty years, and so now after twenty years,
- 31:04Speaker 1: she's gonna cash in when he sells the house. That's
- 31:08Speaker 1: that's a lot of premeditation, Jason, twenty years definitely not
- 31:12Speaker 1: your typical imo for a gold digger, right, and they
- 31:15Speaker 1: were roughly the same age. They also don't generally volunteer
- 31:20Speaker 1: at the fire department or with Alzheimer's patients. She does
- 31:25Speaker 1: not fit the typical profile of what you would think
- 31:29Speaker 1: of when you think of a gold digger. Gold digger,
- 31:33Speaker 1: those are not the words I would have chosen to
- 31:35Speaker 1: describe frenchie. No way. Okay, it's the plot, Thickens. Take
- 31:39Speaker 1: a listen to our cut ten. Close friends of the
- 31:41Speaker 1: couple tell police that Ender had decided to sell his
- 31:44Speaker 1: family home with twenty five hundred square feet, six bedrooms
- 31:48Speaker 1: and four baths. The home was listed at one point
- 31:51Speaker 1: nine billion dollars. Sherry Lee Haffernan, a real estate agent
- 31:54Speaker 1: licensed in New Jersey and Maryland, told her father that
- 31:57Speaker 1: she wanted to be the broker, but Haffernan had been
- 32:00Speaker 1: estranged from her father for the past few years. Family
- 32:03Speaker 1: friends say Heffernan refused to accept his phone calls, returned letters,
- 32:07Speaker 1: unopened and email when unanswered. Once the house was to
- 32:11Speaker 1: be put on the market, Ender's friends say Heffernan started
- 32:13Speaker 1: reaching out to Frenchie, Ender did not let her sell
- 32:17Speaker 1: the house, that police say is believed to be why
- 32:19Speaker 1: the couple was killed. The friend also told police that
- 32:22Speaker 1: Enders had recently amended his living will and that Heffernan
- 32:26Speaker 1: and Ender's other daughter were no longer included. Mmm, you know,
- 32:32Speaker 1: what what is it with rich people? You know, Joe
- 32:38Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, rich people, And here's the old man worked
- 32:43Speaker 1: his whole life. War Vette Frenchie, his girlfriend in twenty years,
- 32:47Speaker 1: worked her whole I'm still working. And their children are
- 32:53Speaker 1: angry that they're not getting the house. I mean really, Yeah,
- 32:59Speaker 1: you think about this and this life that they've lived,
- 33:02Speaker 1: and listen, you have to imagine that they've probably provided
- 33:06Speaker 1: a pretty good life for these kids, provided a good
- 33:09Speaker 1: enough life so that they feel comfortable to act like
- 33:11Speaker 1: a spoiled brat at the end and even into their
- 33:16Speaker 1: middle years of their life, they're still petulant little children
- 33:19Speaker 1: that you're gonna go and you're going to attack these
- 33:21Speaker 1: people in brutalize them. And Nancy, I've been on a
- 33:23Speaker 1: lot of a lot of homicides in my career, but
- 33:26Speaker 1: I gotta tell you these familial homicides like this, they
- 33:29Speaker 1: turn into an absolute blood bath. It's savage, absolute savage.
- 33:34Speaker 1: A love of money the root of all evil. Take
- 33:39Speaker 1: a looks of our cut seven CBS three Philly. A
- 33:42Speaker 1: woman has been arrested after the bodies of two people
- 33:46Speaker 1: were discovered inside of a home and Surf City, New Jersey.
- 33:50Speaker 1: Sherry Hoffernan of Landenburg, Pennsylvania is basing two counts of
- 33:55Speaker 1: murder in connection with the deaths of her father, John
- 33:59Speaker 1: Enders and his living girlfriend, Prince Wap Pittoy. The eighty
- 34:03Speaker 1: seven year old and seventy five year old were found
- 34:06Speaker 1: dead inside of a home on North at Seventh Avenue
- 34:08Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon. Investigators say both were stabbed multiple times. Eighty seven.
- 34:14Speaker 1: So my father was when he passed away, he went
- 34:16Speaker 1: to heaven and at the end. I remember one time
- 34:21Speaker 1: we were at the beach. I had to carry my
- 34:24Speaker 1: father on my back to get back into the rental.
- 34:29Speaker 1: He could hardly walk. There's an eighty seven year old
- 34:33Speaker 1: man and a seventy five year old girlfriend, stabbed, beaten,
- 34:39Speaker 1: and this is why the defendant, Shirley Hefferman's arrested. Take
- 34:44Speaker 1: a listen to the rest of what the grandson said,
- 34:50Speaker 1: not under questioning, but Vallin teered. He went on to
- 34:54Speaker 1: tell police that his mother left home to visit her
- 34:56Speaker 1: father the week before, describing the trip as a midnight
- 35:00Speaker 1: as saying he was worried about what happened. Heffernan allegedly
- 35:04Speaker 1: said his mother was the only person to drive the
- 35:06Speaker 1: RV in the last two weeks, and I can't believe
- 35:09Speaker 1: she did this. Under a search warrant on the Winnebago,
- 35:12Speaker 1: police found red staining on the carpet, appearing to be
- 35:15Speaker 1: consistent with dried blood. Okay, Jason Campo, chief prosecutor, joining
- 35:19Speaker 1: us out of Cameron County, Texas? What more could you want?
- 35:23Speaker 1: T that up in front of the jury. With the
- 35:25Speaker 1: blood on the Winnebago carpet, it presents everything in a nice,
- 35:32Speaker 1: neat package for you. With the motive, the history of
- 35:35Speaker 1: that's going on between these two people. Clearly the rage
- 35:39Speaker 1: that was happening as she was getting written out of
- 35:41Speaker 1: the will and that she felt like she was not
- 35:44Speaker 1: getting what she was entitled to. It explains the excessive
- 35:47Speaker 1: stabbing and the shooting it's everything wrapped up for you
- 35:52Speaker 1: in a package. The only thing it would make me
- 35:55Speaker 1: wonder is let's just see the investigation all the way
- 35:59Speaker 1: through to make sure that she didn't have any help.
- 36:02Speaker 1: Wait till you hear her defense. Oh, I can't wait.
- 36:06Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut eight. This is our
- 36:09Speaker 1: French Tish Hartman six ABC. This bayfront home on North
- 36:13Speaker 1: seventh Street was where the bodies of the couple were
- 36:15Speaker 1: discovered on October third. The next day, enders daughter, fifty
- 36:19Speaker 1: five year old Sherry Lee Heffernan, of Landenburg, PA, was
- 36:22Speaker 1: arrested and charged with the two murderers. Authorities in New
- 36:25Speaker 1: Jersey alleged that Heffernan was upset with her father because
- 36:28Speaker 1: she had been cut out of his will. Enders had
- 36:31Speaker 1: recently decided to sell the Surf City home and had
- 36:34Speaker 1: been trying to contact his daughter for the past year
- 36:36Speaker 1: without much success. During an expedition hearing in Chester County
- 36:39Speaker 1: on Friday, Heffernan told a reporter that she's quote not
- 36:43Speaker 1: guilty and being framed. According to the Daily Local News
- 36:46Speaker 1: of Westchester, Heffernan was ordered to remain in the Chester
- 36:50Speaker 1: County prison without bail until she is extradited to New Jersey.
- 36:54Speaker 1: Before that can happen, she has to face unresolved theft
- 36:58Speaker 1: charges out of Montgomery County, PA. Those theft charges were
- 37:01Speaker 1: for taking merchandise and receiving stolen property back in twenty nineteen.
- 37:06Speaker 1: They were misdemeanors. I don't know what that was. It's
- 37:09Speaker 1: just shoplifting or some other petty theft. But that gives
- 37:12Speaker 1: me an idea a window into her thinking. If you
- 37:16Speaker 1: could see the photos of this home, and I think
- 37:20Speaker 1: that they were photos, they're office zello and there are
- 37:23Speaker 1: photos I think that were taken in preparation to sell it.
- 37:26Speaker 1: It is beautiful. It's really really pretty and in perfect condition.
- 37:33Speaker 1: Apparently the victim, Jack Enders, would spend his days working
- 37:37Speaker 1: on the home, and the girlfriend Frenchie had decorated herself.
- 37:42Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's gorgeous, six bedroom, four bath waterfront home.
- 37:47Speaker 1: And the daughter, the blood relative daughter of Jack Enders,
- 37:55Speaker 1: went berserk over the fact that she would not get
- 38:01Speaker 1: the property that he was selling it, not even letting
- 38:05Speaker 1: her be the realtor on that. But you know, Jacqueline
- 38:09Speaker 1: Gray Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, I mean, I
- 38:12Speaker 1: know you're an investigative reporter, not a shrink. But that's
- 38:14Speaker 1: what happens when you don't talk to your father for
- 38:18Speaker 1: years on in send his letters back, won't pick up
- 38:21Speaker 1: the phone, won't be with him. Yeah, you're gonna get disinherited.
- 38:25Speaker 1: What did she think was going to happen? I don't
- 38:27Speaker 1: know what she was thinking. And also in the months
- 38:30Speaker 1: before the murder, Jack cut you know, her and another
- 38:34Speaker 1: daughter out of the world. So, I mean the writing
- 38:37Speaker 1: was kind of on the wall that like she cut
- 38:39Speaker 1: him out and he cut her out. You know, I'll
- 38:42Speaker 1: never get over how rich people fight over money and
- 38:45Speaker 1: the reality is, I think doctor Allen Blocky, PhD, forensic psychologist,
- 38:52Speaker 1: a lot of children and grandchildren don't get they worked
- 38:57Speaker 1: hard for this home, their whole lives to just fall
- 39:00Speaker 1: in their laps and it's theirs to do what they
- 39:03Speaker 1: wish with. Yeah. Unfortunately, what happens is that the children
- 39:07Speaker 1: of these folks often feel this sense of entitlement that
- 39:12Speaker 1: grows and becomes so huge that it's crazy, and it
- 39:19Speaker 1: leads to acting out, that leads to crime, all out
- 39:24Speaker 1: of a sense of entitlement that is just not consistent
- 39:29Speaker 1: with the way reality is. Sometimes we wait as justice
- 39:34Speaker 1: and Falls, Nancy Grace crime story, Signing off my friend