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- 0:00[Music] welcome to multiple
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- 0:07nerdy so I'd just like to say a big welcome to everyone and thank you for
- 0:12tuning in for our last episode of the year yeah 99 99 episode almost almost at
- 0:19100 yeah we are I I I still can't believe that we're going to hit 100 I'm
- 0:24pretty sure the listeners can't believe it
- 0:26either no and I I should say we would have got here sooner had we
- 0:32been a bit more frequent about putting out the episodes because I notic let not
- 0:36go start blaming ourselves for this m there's someone else blame I was I was
- 0:41like oh we got to 100 and then I look at other podcasts like you know like um
- 0:46friends of our like the awesome addiction who started after us and then
- 0:48I'm I'm like oh they're way past 100 already you know what I'd like to do i'
- 0:54like to say big thank you to Jenna ah yeah I think she's the reason why we
- 1:00really gotten there this fast yeah that's true that's true well yes thank
- 1:04you Jenna well I'm not going to say thank you because I've actually emailed
- 1:07and thanked her after every single edit she's
- 1:10done so I'm just a jerk well bit late to the party but uh you know that's your
- 1:16style isn't it yeah how I do it well I thank her all the time as well because
- 1:23I'm sure she does she does a little more than editing for you
- 1:28Matt or she does a little more than editing for all those because she does the tweets and
- 1:34the that's fine she does the
- 1:38tweets very often uh and she does I thought that must have been her because it was being
- 1:44done yeah exactly uh yeah so the stuff that goes up on um Twitter and Facebook
- 1:50is often um put put in the scheder by
- 1:54her so um yeah so big thank you yeah and like don't all be like you guys don't do
- 2:00it yourself oh you too big no it's not that Jenna's not like our publicist
- 2:04right she's The Unofficial fifth member the honorary fifth member of mul nasm so
- 2:10[ __ ] off and why would you even say that in fact why the [ __ ] are you even
- 2:13listening if that's your opinion [ __ ] off yeah sorry sorry guys sorry I didn't
- 2:18mean to to lose it just now but some of our listeners really really get my
- 2:23goat I post stuff as well on there so I try to post stuff as myself and end up
- 2:29posting as multiple nerdgasm because the uh IOS app for Facebook doesn't let you
- 2:35differentiate so sometimes it's so many times when iog and go I'm going to
- 2:39unlike our thing our post cuz we always like our own post by
- 2:46accient yeah that's true yeah it's always awkward when other Pages do that
- 2:51but then well I used to think it was awkward but then I realize now that like
- 2:55it's very difficult not to do that if you are the admin of a page yeah like if
- 3:00you want to if you try and interact with a post of your own then you're gonna end
- 3:05up doing it under the wrong account no matter what happens it's always wrong
- 3:09yeah yeah I think that's how seen to that exactly I'm I'm I've switch to the
- 3:16multiple ner gasm account okay I post oh it's it's posted as Matt yeah all right
- 3:21that makes no sense all right so I'm I'm logged in as me I'll comment on
- 3:25something oh it's commented as multiple nerdgasm okay fine well what's worse cuz
- 3:29I'm admin of a couple of accounts because I have uh my film The Tail job
- 3:33has its own Facebook as well and sometimes Brian who's the co-producer of
- 3:36that and I want to have a little discussion on there except if we're both
- 3:40mobile it just looks like the site itself is talking to
- 3:46itself trying to get a discourse going have you decided to maybe sign
- 3:51off just and then sign in as what just so they know it's you oh right no I just
- 3:57just I thought you meant like just log out just just forget close it down Dan yeah
- 4:03just forget it I thought you were being a lite again cuz I have uh yeah Ray
- 4:10Bradbery over there um oh scathing I wonder if Ray Bradbury knows
- 4:17that his name has become synonymous with Lite look I love Ray Bradbury
- 4:22so but yeah you're right he was terrified of Technology um the man has
- 4:26never driven a car but he has piloted the Luna module
- 4:31huh that's not fair yeah well he's
- 4:36dead so he paid he paid a he paid a price somebody's Googling that right now
- 4:41and he's going to write and tell me it's the Mars rover not the not the lunar
- 4:44module whatever whatever I'm not your [ __ ] I'm not the space Guru all right
- 4:49the space Guru is Dave and he's not here yeah that's right unfortunately so don't
- 4:55don't be writing your letters into me all right
- 5:00your e letters yeah so you're well if it's yeah exactly i' no I'd like to see
- 5:07someone tried to write a letter to you you know what I would love to receive a
- 5:12letter I literally cannot remember the last time I received a letter in the mail no
- 5:18I can it was about 2010 and it was from my nana because I hadn't called her in 2
- 5:23days so she decided instead of calling me that she would write me a letter
- 5:27asking why I hadn't called her um we we will soon because I need one
- 5:34for um other business related purposes we will soon have a multiple nerdgasm PO
- 5:38box and so we could give that out on the show when we have it yeah so people want
- 5:44to send us stuff yeah yeah yeah in fact I listen to some other podcasts where
- 5:50people get send stuff and I want to know why we haven't I listen to a film review
- 5:54podcast and anytime they mention on the podcast oh I haven't actually seen that
- 5:58film someone sends them a DV all right well I mean I don't want to
- 6:04give out my home address oh I'll give out mine if people are going to send me
- 6:07stuff well we just come around for a visit well until we get the PO Box
- 6:12Luke's house can be the uh multiple nerd gasm PO Box I mean it's not like people
- 6:17are going to go to CRA no who'll go to CRA so if you want to duck down
- 6:24to act come down and say hello all right you which apartment number you
- 6:30in that's the most aussy
- 6:35oh so it's not the no no right it's like
- 6:40a penguin right the national walk of Antarctica place I thought it was kind
- 6:44of like um wabby way you know from uh binding
- 6:51Nemo yeah every single American that I'm
- 6:55friends with when they find out I'm from Sydney they go you from wabby
- 7:02way and I have to let them down tell them that there is no wabby
- 7:07way well there might be there has to be somewhere I'm going to Google Maps right
- 7:13now okay now Luke you've given out a street number but you have an apartment
- 7:17right so is there any more to that address or is that is it enough I think
- 7:21that's enough well it's not as well say they want to mail you something it's not
- 7:26enough at all oh sorry sorry it's you know okay cu the postman's not going to be like
- 7:31I'll just leave it here I guess yeah well actually the postman probably will
- 7:35be like I'll just leave it here I don't think they're allowed to just leave
- 7:40them H in in Australia they're not in apparently in the US they are allowed to
- 7:45they're obligation yeah their obligation is to get us from the post office to
- 7:48your house and unless it's um and beyond that no that's why apparently they have
- 7:53issues with you know they always joke about the FedEx guy shoving packages
- 7:56like in a tree or whatever yeah like or on the roof that one time yeah well
- 8:02apparently that's it because their obligation ends once they reach your
- 8:06property whereas I'm pretty sure in Australia they're not yeah they can't
- 8:10just leave it lying around although I I did have when I lived um in stanmore I
- 8:14did have uh a lot of packages just left on the doorstep which annoyed me because
- 8:18I'm I'm like don't don't do that please yeah I'm using the parcel Locker now I'm
- 8:24finding that really good oh what is that it's something the post have got instead
- 8:28of having a p which you got to pay for I've got a parcel Locker so they've got
- 8:33places set up around where I just give this address so if I'm on eBay or
- 8:37anything I give my past Locker address and it goes to the distribution center
- 8:42and then it just goes into a locker there it might be a different Locker
- 8:45every time right and I just punch in my details and it pops open and I get my
- 8:49package um and why didn't you give out that address instead of your home address just
- 8:56quietly I'll pause while you realize that Matt has a point um
- 9:02um yep um I might go and find that address oh
- 9:07there is no wabby way I told you there's no wabby way interesting that's really
- 9:13odd there's no wabby way there's no wabby way that's saying that's just the saying
- 9:18we have down here in Australia yeah speaking of
- 9:25sayings yeah sort of um Christian Bale has come out and said that he's kind of
- 9:31feeling a little jealous that everyone is talking about Ben Affleck being
- 9:35Batman and uh and kind of saying that he kind of thought maybe they would ask him
- 9:40to continue doing it evidently they didn't um and then somebody was
- 9:45interviewing Michael Keaton recently short list magazine were interviewing
- 9:49him and they asked him if uh he ever felt jealous that other people played
- 9:54Batman and his response is pretty awesome he says and I quote
- 9:59no and you know why because I'm Batman and I think that's
- 10:06uh that's all you need to say really when you're Michael
- 10:10Kon look he was great as Batman Christian Bale Chris Bell was good in
- 10:16the movies they were you but his Batman voice got a little ridiculous after the while but
- 10:22yeah like he Keaton was just excellent as Batman and he he is the um he like I
- 10:29think of Batman I think of that Batman no think of Adam West yeah well that's
- 10:35true too doesn't surprise me okay I'll got an Adam West story but show off that
- 10:39for a sec because I want to still talk about Michael Keaton's Batman for just a but
- 10:43sure I watched the old Batman recently the old Batman I'm talking about Batman
- 10:50the movie 1989 Michael Katon right oh yeah but there's one thing that I found
- 10:55really funny about watching it Vicky
- 10:57Veil meets Bruce Wayne at a party right
- 11:03yes she wants to interview him that's her entire motivation for meeting him
- 11:08yes right she comes over to do the interview they have dinner he talks
- 11:13about his childhood she gets insanely
- 11:16drunk and they [ __ ] right yes right the
- 11:20next day she wakes up he's already up and dressed and says you have to leave
- 11:26now she goes oh can I see you tonight he goes I'm busy she says tomorrow he goes
- 11:30can't do it she says how about the weekend and he goes actually I'm going
- 11:34away for quite a while right y Alfred will show you to the door Alfred's
- 11:39showing her out right yeah and she goes oh I have fun on your trip and Alfred
- 11:42goes we're not going on a trip Vicky then instead of realizing he
- 11:49suspiciously says we're never going on a trip ever we're always here ma'am we'll
- 11:53be here quite some time yeah in other words you have been lied to my friend so
- 11:59instead of taking that as a hint right she decides she wants to see him again
- 12:04anyway she calls he won't return the calls she tries to get in he doesn't
- 12:09answer the door she then follows him and takes pictures of him they've met once
- 12:15twice they've met twice now yeah once at a party and once where she got drunk and
- 12:20he [ __ ] her right she's now literally stalking him and taking photos it has
- 12:26gone well above and beyond her newspaper out which she is now abandoned and we
- 12:31know this because Alexander KNX is like why aren't you working on this with me
- 12:35anymore and she's like I've got things to do so it's not an article right she
- 12:39she's like by the way I need you to now look into this instead like why why why
- 12:44is he in this Alleyway cuz she takes photos of him putting the flowers down
- 12:47yeah and she convinces Alfred to let her
- 12:51into the Batcave right right where she comes in and he's sitting there and he
- 12:56says to her I don't want to do this all
- 13:01right and she just doesn't let it go and as a kid I did afterward he was
- 13:07said Alfred Alfred what the [ __ ] did he talk about please do not bring psycho
- 13:13stalker [ __ ] down into the Batcave
- 13:18y Alfred you can't keep doing this yeah what have I told you I [ __ ] her once
- 13:24and then tried my absolute hardest to get rid of her and ignore
- 13:29her we now have to kill her Alfred the last in no way if you're describing
- 13:34Vicky veil's character could you call her Batman's girlfriend or Bruce Wayne's
- 13:38love interest at all no at best you can
- 13:43describe her as someone he slept with and then tried to forget about cuz then
- 13:48in the second one she's not there anymore and Selena Kyle asks him about
- 13:53it and he says Ah it didn't work out yeah that's right and that in itself is
- 13:58an overstatement I wonder how many people he's actually done that with
- 14:01though cuz I'm sure it's not just her well as many as he can yeah well look I
- 14:06think there's there's no clear way of saying look I had sex with you because
- 14:11you were throwing yourself at me but beyond that I don't really want a
- 14:16relationship also I'm Batman yeah well he does try to tell her
- 14:21actually earlier on yes cuz he decides that he likes her he decides he likes
- 14:26her enough to tell her but not enough to see her again yeah right actually Alfred
- 14:32convinces him he should tell her which seems a bit ridiculous yeah when you
- 14:36think about it maybe you should tell her you're Batman sir are you [ __ ]
- 14:40serious you should shut up yeah are you
- 14:42you crazy old man go btle
- 14:47something [ __ ] meddling [ __ ] oh all
- 14:52right sorry anyway that's my um that's my Batman onage for the
- 14:58day cuz I have Batman on bridge every day
- 15:02but that's it for today um you have some followup from
- 15:08last week possibly last week could be the week before but you have some
- 15:12followup oh we're talking about face sitting yeah yeah so we did talk about
- 15:17how Britain has just outlawed a whole
- 15:19bunch of uh fairly vanilla sex stuff in
- 15:24pornography fistings vanilla well fisting but like spanking you know sure
- 15:31yeah yeah yeah like it's who hasn't spanked or been spanked
- 15:36honestly when I was a child oh I was just reading one it's role playing is
- 15:41non adults role playing is non adults that include like role playing as a
- 15:46dog yeah nonhumans that's right so all
- 15:50furries are banned yeah well you can't you can't be a you can't be a
- 15:57puppy oh but that's that that's the
- 16:01cutest animal to sexually role playay as yeah no puppy dog eyes that's that's
- 16:08not allow but female ejaculations on the list and that's probably the one that's
- 16:11caused the most controversy because people have kind of said well you know
- 16:16if you're prone to female ejaculation and you're doing it right you're going
- 16:21to female ejaculate mhm yeah and and you can't really have a law against it or
- 16:26say that that's some kind of inhuman or unn sex act it is an odd thing to say
- 16:32that you can't have it on in porn when you can have male yeah if they get a ban
- 16:37they should ban both well the funny thing is that none of these things are
- 16:40actually illegal it's just illegal to show them in porn right which is kind of
- 16:44the opposite of in America where it's in many cases illegal to pay someone for
- 16:50sex but not illegal to make porn so if you're [ __ ] a prostitute and the
- 16:55brothel gets raided all you have to say is n I'm bra and you're not breaking any
- 17:02laws yeah uh well I mean again I'm going to
- 17:06show my ignorance here but I think maybe it's because female ejaculation is one
- 17:12of those things where it's like it's not
- 17:16like I is it real is it a real is it the same no no no I don't want to go into it
- 17:22but but I'm just pointing out that I'm aware that that's some weird thing that
- 17:26I don't know whether that's there there might be a reason it's on the list is
- 17:30what I'm saying I'm not going to say that I understand it in any way but I
- 17:34will say that I got an email from a female listener during the week who shall remain
- 17:39nameless okay who wanted me to know that it's very very real okay all right
- 17:45interesting that's that's fair like like I said I'm not please tell me it wasn't my
- 17:51mother I'm not going to say if it was or wasn't is this why she need to remain
- 17:57anonymous so anyway brings us to the follow-up
- 18:02news uh which is there there has been a mass face sitting in
- 18:08Westminster in
- 18:11protest 5 people have ascended on West
- 18:16West Matt you're from Britain can you pronounce that please
- 18:22Westminster was that was that a a was that an Englishman ejaculating while
- 18:29saying the name of the town Westminster there you go English
- 18:33woman ejaculating if that's a
- 18:36thinging go me oh G female ejaculator
- 18:40yeah hello oh hello I've just gone and
- 18:45come Jesus Christ and that of course was Eric idle
- 18:50um female ejaculating look # porn protest will get you to uh all the Saucy
- 18:57uh I was about to say tweets I meant to say
- 19:01tweets but go ahead decide for yourself whether that still applies
- 19:07um I was looking here at the number it says about 500 I was really hoping that
- 19:12this would be one of those cases where they give you the exact number and it's
- 19:15an odd number and you have to assume that somebody is face itting
- 19:20themselves
- 19:24right so did they film it though I would be well they're not allowed to film it
- 19:29are they they're breaking the law exactly that's my point um so Charlotte
- 19:36Rose sex worker of the Year 2013 how do you get
- 19:41that now that is an Accolade If Ever I did hear one I'm sorry I forgot to nomin
- 19:48who judges that yeah what do you have to do like no no no she went so above and
- 19:54beyond we have to name her sex worker of the year
- 20:00I mean cuz I assume that all sex workers kind of aim to please do you know what I
- 20:04mean yeah like yeah I'm pretty sure nobody walks out of you know a visit
- 20:09with a sex worker going ah well that was disappointing maybe they do hell I don't
- 20:13know they get in there they go what is the bare minimum I can
- 20:17do how do I phone this in yeah so she
- 20:21says these laws are not only sexists but they're taking away people's choices
- 20:26without consent oh so you're implying that making these laws is a kind of
- 20:33rape personal Liberty is what we're fighting for and no one has the right to
- 20:38take that
- 20:42away yep yeah look I I I think it's a bit weird I think some of them some of
- 20:48them I can understand humiliation and physical restraint like you don't want
- 20:52to encourage negative behavior so I can see how that would come up some of them
- 20:57I don't quite understand why it matters but have you watched I mean it's it's
- 21:02not sex it's not real people's sex no no no I know I know but what I'm say is I
- 21:07can see how some of them some of them I can see how you would want to discourage
- 21:11that behavior in general sure like yeah if you were a kind of person in like an
- 21:17old man in government for example I can see how I an old man in government would
- 21:21be like oh we don't want people filming themselves being humiliated and people
- 21:25jerking off to it that's disgusting right I can see how you could think that
- 21:28and the same applies to some of the others but some ones that I can understand like
- 21:33strangulation yeah that one I can understand who hasn't strangled a [ __ ]
- 21:38I mean honestly but yeah I mean like I don't
- 21:43know there are a few that are a bit I don't know oh yeah there's some sexism
- 21:48going on in that list I think so yeah just seem it's very very odd that they
- 21:53um they just kind of said not you know how to do this stuff like really that's
- 21:57interesting yeah it's weird it's just you just can't film it but you can still
- 22:02do it at home if you want well they can't really I mean they can well
- 22:07beastiality illegal most places I think like but I mean do they really want to
- 22:12tell they really want to be telling people they beity on this list no that's
- 22:15what I'm saying if you're too consenting adults no no no I'm my point with that
- 22:19was that that's because you it's a person and a creature that's unable to
- 22:23consent if you got two consenting adults you can't you don't want to be telling
- 22:26them what they can and can't do like right if something's perfectly legal to perform
- 22:32on another person for fun yes then it shouldn't be
- 22:37illegal to perform that for
- 22:42entertainment yeah if two adults want to get together and do some something weird
- 22:47whatever it is who cares what it is as long as they're not doing anything that
- 22:51is or like a man and a woman really love each other and want to be filmed [ __ ]
- 22:57on the internet then they should have every right but then what if one of them wants to be
- 23:03eaten alive by the other one but how does this work like face sitting for
- 23:08example right yeah so what if that what if that starts well what if it starts
- 23:13off kind of side by side right and then he's really getting into it and she's
- 23:19loving it and as he's doing it she kind of arches her back and just kind of
- 23:23leans into it a bit too much does he have to stop and go whoa whoa whoa whoa
- 23:27you're coming dly close to face sitting
- 23:30now and that is illegal yeah
- 23:34filthy yeah well if they're filming it
- 23:40just out of respect to Charlotte Rose sex worker of the Year 2013 um if anyone
- 23:45I think I should go into a bit of detail about uh her personal story um sure
- 23:50Charlotte first became involved in the adult industry as a bondage model at the
- 23:54age of 17 oh that sounds underage so maybe I'll say 18 yeah we'll go with
- 23:58that she worked briefly as a dominatrix before taking a break to start a family
- 24:02and gain a degree I'm not sure if her degree is in sex work but uh doesn't say
- 24:07she returned to sex work as she wanted to quote make a difference there you go
- 24:11and is now a sex therapist all right okay here's a quote from I help people
- 24:17with little or no experience in sex the elderly and disabled and also couples
- 24:22that have healthy sex lives through the teaching of sex skills and I love what I
- 24:27do the does that mean like she's like a psychologist kind of version of that or
- 24:33does that mean she literally gets people in and's like put it in here it goes in
- 24:37there oh doesn't it Go in no definitely not no now now let's literally what
- 24:44about here but more often here right but definitely not here actually she
- 24:50actually helped them practice we don't know ites it doesn't
- 24:53say of course it doesn't say it doesn't say in this Guardian article
- 25:00it also doesn't have her contact info but um I'm sure a brief Google search you're
- 25:06listening contact us and we'd love to have you on the show yeah yeah
- 25:13sure you can come and explain what you know what
- 25:18I actually think maybe she does because I'm here on her website and her bio says
- 25:23I'm a sex worker and sexual trainer right right so she literally
- 25:29just practices it with you and her website for anyone that wants to know is
- 25:34sexualt training. co.uk
- 25:38hm oh that's interesting she's like combined the two
- 25:44fields in a way yeah Psy psychology and
- 25:51sexology and she's open about it it's not like the other ones that hide
- 25:55it which ones hide it you SE the news all the time that they
- 26:00got caught having sex with their patient we don't know yeah right I see no I
- 26:04think they're School teachers I think if you get caught having sex with your
- 26:07patient then you've already breached some kind of confidentiality by not shutting the
- 26:13door well is is that is that an issue she has to worry about like is she not
- 26:17how to call them patients because of that well I'm on the FAQ her website
- 26:21right now and it takes about 9 or 10 to get down to will I be having sex during
- 26:26the session which if it was me if I was building this website I'd probably put
- 26:30that as number one assuming that that's going to be the most asked question the
- 26:34answer is these are intimate sessions as Charlotte Rose feels it's most helpful
- 26:39and appropriate to guide you through the training in this way however it it's not
- 26:43an escort client session and it's not for anyone looking for this kind of
- 26:47transaction now if that's not the most vague way of answering a really direct
- 26:52question then I don't know what the so the answer is maybe yeah yeah if you pay
- 26:58that little bit extra yeah or if she likes you yeah actually no that's that's
- 27:04lious it's a business transaction yeah just don't film it
- 27:10she's in the UK y yeah absolutely not no it's just I still find a very strange
- 27:16thing cuz it's just it's what's to stop all of these people going to other
- 27:21websites and watching it right so they can't film it there but
- 27:27they can just watch it somewhere else wait is it illegal to watch it or is it
- 27:30just illegal to film it well it's illegal to sell it sell and purchase
- 27:36yeah because it's actually illegal to to film porn in a lot of
- 27:41countries yeah and there's there's almost no porn produced here in
- 27:46Australia and even the australian-owned sites are usually made in
- 27:51Amsterdam right but you just think cuz all the all the the sites that these
- 27:56people have to go to they they're not based in the UK they can
- 28:01still buy it cuz it's online porn sold in the
- 28:07UK right so does online porn if they purchase something from like an American
- 28:11website does that are they okay to do that cuz if they are then this is just
- 28:18causing them a lot of problems to bring these laws in cuz not it's not just stop people
- 28:23from watching it just making more work for them is it yeah
- 28:29yeah I think anyway
- 28:32H they could have come up with a better hashtag porn protest porn protest I
- 28:39think it's uh it's fairly on the money what would you have what would you have
- 28:44preferred porn test there you go it's a couple of less
- 28:51characters yeah or maybe just proton maybe just protest but with a hyphen
- 28:56proton that sounds like an injury weightlift would have [Music]
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- 30:12yeah uh I've got some Sasquatch news oh well cu the jingle
- 30:17Maddie
- 30:23Sasquatch and uh this week's Sasquatch news is it's quite interesting actually
- 30:28well I think um I find it interesting just because it's so elaborate when
- 30:34really there really only to make the one point that they've made in this review
- 30:38it's um yeah CU realistically the only Sasquatch news is
- 30:43either going to be there still isn't a Sasquatch or holy [ __ ] there is one all
- 30:49right so two gentlemen Daniel Falconer and Phil polling have written up a
- 30:55Critical examination of the Todd Standing Sy video subjects now Todd
- 31:00Standing is a very famous um Sasquatch Yeti Hunter and he claims
- 31:06toist yep he he claims to have encountered these creatures in the wild
- 31:09many times and he's got video footage of them and um he he insists that this is
- 31:15real and these gentlemen have done an extensive video analysis on um on these
- 31:22photos and this footage and then I mean it's it's really in depth like they
- 31:26compare the eyes and and eyelid shapes
- 31:29of various um apes and humans and like
- 31:35like the the facial expressions like they've got pictures here of human
- 31:38squinting and versus you know these pictures of the Sasquatch and uh and the
- 31:43way the hair on the Sasquatch compares to the hair of like an flocked animal
- 31:47like a cat all that kind of stuff is very in-depth but really I think it's
- 31:52only the section on video 5 that is sort
- 31:56of essential um um and because I
- 32:02mean if you look at what they've got here they've got a picture of the
- 32:06Sasquatch as provided by Todd Standing and then a picture of Todd Standing and
- 32:12then they've kind of done a little morph and um and it's it looks an awful lot
- 32:19like they're the same person yeah um the Sasquatch appears to
- 32:24be Todd Standing dressed as a Sasquatch that's right in fact and their their
- 32:29analysis of this point um is I just love the way they've written this uh a
- 32:35curious feature of video 5 is its resemblance to Todd Standing himself
- 32:41yeah yeah which is an understatement they've been very um
- 32:46scientific about it and um they're you know like they're not having a go at him
- 32:52in any way they're just presenting this information um but really this look I
- 32:56mean they've they've gone into a lot of detail tell I mean I've seen this video
- 32:59too but my response uh was just to go n it's [ __ ] and move on to my life but
- 33:04these guys have taken it one step further and done hours and hours of work
- 33:08on it yeah and I mean it's kind of conclusive really um it's [ __ ] yeah
- 33:15so if I if you needed any kind of right I just think it's amusing I mean I I I
- 33:21haven't read the whole thing because there's a lot here and I didn't need to
- 33:25be convinced but um I did find in particular the
- 33:29um the video five comparison where it's it's him in a suit yeah I just love this
- 33:36phenomenon that people are just so
- 33:40obsessed with proving the existence of things that just plain don't exist yeah
- 33:46know you know what I mean like there's no reason to think there is a Sasquatch
- 33:51so why are you wasting your time like the animals that do exist we know about
- 33:57they exist should probably pay more attention to those animals CU they're
- 34:02disappearing and trying to find something that doesn't
- 34:05exist so soon we'll be having to hunt down I don't know what's animals going
- 34:10to be extinct look you You' feel like a panda for example yeah
- 34:17yeah you'd feel so much more fulfilled
- 34:21at the end of your workday if you were one of these guys that had to prove the
- 34:26existence of an animal and you chose I don't know a badger you know what I mean
- 34:31because you actually could prove it and it wouldn't just be day after day after
- 34:37day for an entire life going home to your wife and going no I still couldn't
- 34:41prove it no haven oh look look honey
- 34:46honey here's a picture of the Sasquatch
- 34:49is that is that you no no no no no I'll be in my
- 34:54room yeah I don't know man does he have a wife well this is something I5 cuz you
- 35:01do have all these people out there who are trying to prove that they're real
- 35:04and they go out and fake it do you think they would maybe design on one outfit
- 35:10one style for them to look like that's the other thing all different even even
- 35:15yeah within this document this man this guy's footage they all look a bit
- 35:18different like one looks like an Ewok sort of creature and then the other
- 35:24looks like joh standing dressed as one and then
- 35:28I don't know man yeah there's no consistency like speaking of Ewoks
- 35:35Google dogs dogs dressed as Ewoks all right and that's my that's my
- 35:41that's my Christmas present to you all oh yeah this is our Christmas episode by the
- 35:47way we didn't we didn't announce that off the bat we do have some Christmas
- 35:51related segments so there is a reason
- 35:53for that that is adorable yeah
- 35:58that is I need a dog yeah that is adorable but yeah look anyway we'll put
- 36:04this in the show notes check it out um conclusive evidence that well these
- 36:09Sasquatches in particular as are as made up as leprechauns elves and God well
- 36:16speaking of God uh and uh his children and their
- 36:21birthdays right as uh as we just mentioned this is our Christmas episode
- 36:27we do a Christmas episode Christmas everyone and it usually just consists of
- 36:31us announcing it's a Christmas episode and then not really doing anything all
- 36:35that christmy although we do have a Christmas segment this week in a
- 36:41Christmas version of Matt's horribly horrific horror homnibus
- 36:48correct and um there are also a few things that we do tend to mention every
- 36:53Christmas episode um for example our old
- 36:59favorite Christmas custom that the Dutch go in blackface at Christmas time
- 37:05yeah because Santa in Holland has a
- 37:11black slave called Black Pete that does most of the manual labor on Santa's trip
- 37:18around the world yeah and uh and they don't think there's anything wrong with
- 37:21that and we've we've pretty much made fun of this from every possible angle in
- 37:25the last couple of years worth the Christmas specials but this year I found
- 37:30a video that I found hilarious and did did you guys get a chance to watch this
- 37:35video yeah I did I did no I for those who hasn't seen it I I'll describe it
- 37:40it's two Dutch people in blackface
- 37:44walking around a park in London England and when they are confronted by
- 37:50people uh and told that they're being horrifically racist they just say no
- 37:55this is a custom and you have to respect now when I watched this video I assumed
- 38:02this was coming from a kind of ironic point of view and it was supposed to
- 38:06point out how [ __ ] up and [ __ ] this was uh but then after watching it I
- 38:11realized no this is from Dutch TV and the point of this video is but not
- 38:17everyone in the world thinks this is a good custom and it's done without a hint
- 38:21of irony and so it's basically just two people in blackace walking around
- 38:25England and being called out on their RAC I do I mean no nobody was okay with it
- 38:31in the video and Russell BR in the video he was well he wasn't annoyed he just
- 38:34said ah I think maybe you you'll find that it's not okay yeah that's right and
- 38:40and Russell just happened to be walking through the park with a what appears to
- 38:44be a very very young woman on his arm but um we can talk about that in another
- 38:51podcast but um yeah he uh you know as Matt said he just kind of pointed out to them that
- 38:57uh it was pretty appalling and he went
- 39:00on his way uh one woman uh told them in no uncertain terms [ __ ] off or you're
- 39:07going to get punched yeah and said you're making everybody very
- 39:11uncomfortable and you're trying have a nice day here yeah and that is a that is
- 39:15a fair point because well no matter what your opinion of it is it is um
- 39:20confronting and they were confronting people about it so yeah that's right if
- 39:25you're in if you're in Holland if you're in Holland and you're doing it and it's
- 39:28it is a tradition I mean I'm sure people walking around the street aren't shocked
- 39:33and and being confronted by it but if you're in London where like they knew
- 39:38that this was not an okay thing to do that's why they did it you know what I
- 39:43mean like that's right they were being provocative correct yeah so and they
- 39:48provoked yeah they did and also like I they only showed clips of people being
- 39:53annoyed possibly there was some people who just went well that's just silly and
- 39:57or just went oh okay fine whatever yeah like I don't know I it is a weird
- 40:01tradition obviously but um yeah I don't
- 40:07know there's a lot of traditions that should just stop and
- 40:13that's the end of it you know yeah I mean why do they do it
- 40:17that's the I guess because it's tradition well in the same way as people
- 40:21dress up like Santa Claus but Santa Claus isn't a horrible racist
- 40:26stereotype sure well he is but he's a
- 40:31stereotype of a white man so no one cares because you can't really it's very
- 40:37difficult to offend white people cuz we're we're pretty fine yeah that's
- 40:40right no white people are offended with being shown like when people try
- 40:47and argue that Homer Simpson is offensive to to to fathers or to to to
- 40:51white males it's not offensive because we are idiots and we're fine like you
- 40:56can make fun of us we'll be fine weed minority yeah it's
- 41:02okay but in this case it's a bit different yeah oh I'd say it is a little
- 41:08bit now Luke you famously said on this podcast before that you don't think that
- 41:13uh blackface uh is a problem what's your opinion on zat
- 41:18pit yeah I still I think it's what's behind it I yeah I have a trouble I'm
- 41:25not very good with racism I cuz you're saying the intent matters yeah I always
- 41:31think it does intent matters everything I agree um do agree with that too and in
- 41:36fact that's the excuse we get used to get away with most of the stuff we say
- 41:40on this podcast exactly so it is it is fairly hypocritical of us to say no if
- 41:45someone's offended by it it's just not bad no no no but my my point stands I
- 41:50believe that in this video these particular people were doing it to piss
- 41:54people off and to to confront people about it and I think in this case it is
- 41:58it was a racist thing to do because that was their intent was to R they weren there
- 42:04celebrating no what it was about they were there trying to get reactions from
- 42:08people correct so I think that's different I think like I said if you're
- 42:11in Holland and you're doing it because it's a tradition well I mean you could
- 42:14argue that's different I don't know that's not I I don't really understand I
- 42:19I I think that when your tradition is a hate crime then maybe it's blurred the
- 42:22lines well is it is it a hate crime like I I think it's it's considered a hate
- 42:28crime in certain places I wouldn't want to I wouldn't want to wander down to the
- 42:32Deep South in Black I think You' I agree but I'm saying but that's because that's
- 42:38for different reasons like if in Holland they're not doing it to belittle or
- 42:43demean black people it's just this tradition thing and they don't really think about it
- 42:48thenly it does belittle and demean them agree but if it comes from an innocent
- 42:53place I think it's more okay than what they're doing in this video which is
- 42:58intentionally confronting people with it I'm not saying that they should continue
- 43:02to do it I do think it's something that they need to stop and have a think about
- 43:05why they're doing it but I think like if if somebody's doing it because it's
- 43:10tradition and they they don't quite understand that's different to somebody
- 43:14going up and going look at me I'm dressed as a black person does that
- 43:17annoy you some somebody does make the point in the video of saying fine it's
- 43:22your tradition I got no problem with that but maybe it's our tradition to
- 43:25punch people like you in the [ __ ] face well that's a fair point yeah yeah I
- 43:31will say this I was speaking to one of our listeners during the week who was
- 43:35also a good friend of ours I won't name them but um they were in a public place
- 43:39with uh one of their children who um loudly exclaimed dad I don't like black
- 43:44people and um and he was horrified by the comment and uh investigated it as a
- 43:50parent is wanted to do and um when pressed she just says no no no I just I
- 43:56just don't like the color black right okay so uh but he's you know
- 44:02I mean it's regardless of uh of how harmless it is maybe maybe don't go
- 44:08around saying that you don't like black people yeah because like my point is on
- 44:11the one hand the child is not saying that because she wants to oppress a
- 44:15group of people and like you know but she's just making a weird observation
- 44:19about her you know something her limited understanding of the world yeah exactly
- 44:25like the you know she's I don't know she finds visually displeasing about
- 44:31them I mean M careful I'm trying to be careful and it's I'm waiting for and quite
- 44:38frankly so do I no no no I'm just saying the child a
- 44:44child's innocence is different to somebody going up and poking people and annoying them
- 44:51like this child's just saying a a silly thing whereas these people were
- 44:56intentionally trying to piss everybody off so I don't think I don't think you
- 45:00should be allowed to do that but I say we move on because we're
- 45:06not very good at we're not good at this listen to us trying to tiptoe around
- 45:10political correctness yeah I know I know cuz on the one hand I'm like oh it's
- 45:15it's a tradition like they're not trying to be really racist but it is a bit of a
- 45:19racist tradition so I can kind of I don't know well can we move on to
- 45:23something that I have absolutely no problem making fun of sure Kirk Cameron
- 45:29[ __ ] yeah former sitcom star and
- 45:34evangelist yeah um public hater of and disbeliever in
- 45:40evolution y uh inventor of the crocod duck which is a half crocodile half duck
- 45:47that he thinks the absence of disproves the theory of evolution because there
- 45:53are no in his opinion there's no animals in evolutionary transition and all that
- 45:59proves really is that he doesn't understand how Evolution works and that
- 46:03we're all animals in transition
- 46:07correct um yeah but uh he has just uh
- 46:12personally uh financed produced and starred in a Christmas movie now I'll
- 46:19admit I do like a good Christmas movie like if it's Christmas time then a
- 46:25movie about Christmas I'm just going to enjoy it you
- 46:30know whether whether it's jingle all the way or oh God The Nightmare Before
- 46:36Christmas Die Hard Die Hard just love
- 46:39Christmas movies you know um but uh this
- 46:43movie which I believe is called Kurt Cameron Saves
- 46:48Christmas oh God looks like the worst
- 46:52movie ever made um maybe it's even worth
- 46:56putting the audio of this trailer into the promo oh do we want to
- 47:03encourage him maybe well look it's either that or or people should go and
- 47:07watch this I mean yeah I mean don't any money you you it looks like it's going
- 47:14to be like a light-hearted kind of comedy at first but it's not it's
- 47:18basically about a guy who who finds out that everybody hates Christmas because
- 47:24they think that the pagans are stealing it from them Christians he knows hate
- 47:28Christmas now they hate it but they're disappointed in Christmas because all
- 47:32the pagans are trying to steal it from them and make it about you know not God
- 47:37and then he um he saves Christmas I guess by reminding everybody that it was
- 47:42originally apparently about the birth of Jesus and all the other stuff got made
- 47:49up afterwards yeah they they say the word
- 47:54Jesus like more times in this this trailer that I've think I've heard
- 47:58collectively in every other trailer yeah
- 48:02unless it's an Irish movie Jesus Jesus Jesus Mary and
- 48:07Joseph but yeah we allil be [ __ ] yeah I don't think you're going
- 48:12to find much cursing in this film now look it looks like a load of [ __ ] yeah
- 48:18but it's amazing in its
- 48:22awfulness M you know I just don't I mean
- 48:28look the guy clearly at some point kind of lost it a
- 48:33bit because he he was on what's this what was he on Growing Pains is that
- 48:37what he was on growing pain no no he wasn't growing pains he was it I thought
- 48:43that was Michael J fox no that was family TI family tires P he he was
- 48:47supposed to be the big stud of the show and everything and then at some point he
- 48:51he became a born again Christian and then refused to do any scenes eventually
- 48:55where he was alone in a room with a woman because it was sending the wrong
- 48:58message and basically just went [ __ ] stupid and he released a
- 49:04video uh a few years ago I guess talking about how Christians are having all
- 49:09their rights stripped away from them because they can't open a Bible in a
- 49:13public school and all all is nonsense like he's crazy they're not allowed to
- 49:18teach kids about magic well you you you can teach them just not in a public
- 49:24school like send them to a there schools
- 49:27where they can do that yeah yeah they can just go to those schools and but the
- 49:34thing he says oh they teach you Evolution but they don't teach you both
- 49:37sides of the story Al cuz there only side of the story no no well not only
- 49:42that if you're going to teach both sides of the story you mean all 50 billion
- 49:45[ __ ] sides of the story so you teach the Scientologist side of the story you
- 49:49teach the Muslim side of the story you teach the Buddhist side of the story
- 49:53ridiculous I read a great quote the other day and I forget who would by so
- 49:57that may make no sense at all but it it was basically that there is no such thing
- 50:03as not believing in evolution only not
- 50:08accepting that evolution is a fact yeah no no I I know no I know what you mean
- 50:13like well because you don't believe in evolution it's not a that's right you no
- 50:17faith involved you accept the evidence or you don't yeah there's no faith
- 50:21involved not like with a religion the problem that's the the issue with
- 50:24religion is that there isn't evidence that's the point of it it's it's
- 50:26supposed to fill in the gaps where the stuff we don't know with faith which
- 50:30means there is evidence but you believe it anyway that's right they try to apply
- 50:34that same logic to scientific theories and that's not how it works yeah because
- 50:38that's that's not how we decide things are real that's like absence of evidence
- 50:44of unicorns is not evidence of unicorns
- 50:49correct and this is our Christmas
- 50:54special there is no God [Music] well something that happens this time
- 51:01every year is the Steam Sale oh yeah yep um it hasn't started yet I believe it's
- 51:07starting tomorrow but they're having a little auction before it starts right
- 51:11you know all those little presents you get from Steam like you get those little
- 51:16emeric cons and things those items yes well they came up with that you could
- 51:20trade them for gems and then bid on games right I wondered how it worked I
- 51:24couldn't figure it out so I just closed it yeah so it was just so you can get rid
- 51:29of all your old stuff and well it didn't go well to start with I had to take it
- 51:33down cuz people found a little bit of a hack and were just multiplying gems like
- 51:39crazy right but I the reason why I found out about this is I had a lot of stuff
- 51:44on the marketplace that I've been trying to sell and it's been sitting there for
- 51:47months and months then all of a sudden I so about a 100 things
- 51:53jeez trying to go what did you get return buy lots of cheap things I made
- 51:58about $340
- 52:02good what did you sell exactly but you're cleaned up yeah yep um well when
- 52:09you actually with the trading cards that you get when you actually completed
- 52:13level completed card you get like a wallpaper and things for steam right so
- 52:18you can customize your steam page or you can just sell them in the marketplace I
- 52:22sell them cuz I gave all mine to you and
- 52:25I and I I uh yes I used them I used all
- 52:29your trading cards oh it's fine I I don't care it's fine all right so they have to shut it
- 52:36down uh because it shut down yeah cuz people have to ruin everything of course
- 52:43of course yeah but no now we get the joy of the actual sale starting soon so we
- 52:48get to buy lots of games really cheap that we won't play I'm I'm going to say
- 52:52now that I don't have anything that I want so I'm not going to buy anything
- 52:56but it's probably not true I'm gonna end up is that how it works is it Matt yeah
- 53:01I always end up I check it every morning anyway and then I go ah I didn't know
- 53:06that I wanted that but apparently I do so every time it comes up I will buy
- 53:12roughly I don't know 15 to 20 games yeah well the steam sale is the reason I have
- 53:18as many games as I do it's not just the sale in general but they do the little
- 53:22flash sales during it as well where like you end up buying things for like
- 53:28$250 and they're clever too cuz you vote for them right so you kind of invested
- 53:32in it and so you got to check back to see what you voted for when even if you
- 53:36didn't really want it like there's three there I don't really want any of them
- 53:38but I guess out of them I want that one the most and then suddenly you want it
- 53:43yep [ __ ] yep damn you Gabe they're Geniuses
- 53:49yep well that's not the only steam news this week
- 53:52actually no um Steam Greenlight which is the um service where Indie developers
- 53:59can put their game up and the um users can vote whether they would buy it on
- 54:03Steam and if enough people vote then it gets put onto Steam for sale um the game
- 54:10hatred which we've talked about before which is made by a Polish development
- 54:14house um which is a game about going around and shooting
- 54:18everybody it's basically a mass murder simulator um yep they put the game onto
- 54:23green light uh and according to the stats that they posted they were getting
- 54:28a lot of yeses they went straight to like number seven on the list which
- 54:33would mean wow yeah they were going to get in uh but after a couple of hours
- 54:37they received an email from valve saying unfortunately we've had a look at the
- 54:43game and we're just not interested in selling it on Steam so we're going to
- 54:48pull you pull the game from from Greenlight which is I guess within their
- 54:53right so it got pulled and everybody was like oh on on the one hand it did look
- 54:58like an awful awful evil sort of game if that's your kind of if that's your
- 55:04opinion um but on the other hand who it's you know if people want to buy it
- 55:10put it on Steam like what you know who's to say it isn't isn't okay to sell it
- 55:14you know what I mean we can buy whatever we want right um so they CED a bit of
- 55:20flack I assume and then at some point um either today or yesterday Gabe newel Ste
- 55:26in um sent them an email a follow-up email and said look I'm sorry um that
- 55:31was a mistake and um we're going to put you back on Greenlight um best of luck with your
- 55:38game so so they're back and uh I'm not not sure where they at the moment but I
- 55:43mean we can be pretty assured just because of the controversy involved with
- 55:46the game it's going to get on there because people people are just going to
- 55:49click yes because they want to see what happens yeah this game is going to get
- 55:54on there it will absolutely yeah it's it's controversial enough and it's had
- 55:59enough media coverage now that it's it's a forone conclusion but it was
- 56:03interesting that because um not only it wasn't like an automated system that
- 56:08pulled them from the store it was a it was an email that was clearly written
- 56:12and said look we've had a look at your game and we believe in I think in the
- 56:15words uh of the email it's
- 56:20unpublishable and um and then Gabe new
- 56:24stepped in and said sorry that's uh that's not how this works and we're
- 56:29putting you back on so I don't know interesting is is it actually a game was
- 56:34it is is it just you walk around murdering people well I don't know yet I
- 56:39I guess I like to think hope well hope there's a game in there somewhere like
- 56:44otherwise it I mean it could get old pretty quick if it's
- 56:47not so I don't know i' still have a go though yeah the only thing that we've
- 56:52seen is that trailer that which I mean and to be honest the trailer did Shock
- 56:56Me a bit I didn't expect it to be as I think just a combination of um the music
- 57:01and the the editing and it was just a very it was a well done trailer for for
- 57:08what it was no do you know what I mean like it actually did make me it made me
- 57:11go oh wow like yeah it it was very
- 57:15effective so um to to their you know benefit or detriment so yeah they
- 57:22certainly got everybody's attention anyway so it's back on there if hatred
- 57:26is a game that you would like to see on Steam uh head over and vote Yes if
- 57:29you're one of those people that that thinks it shouldn't be allowed and you
- 57:33actually opposed to the game you can click no um or and if you have no opinion don't
- 57:40do anything don't do anything although I don't know that's green light works I
- 57:44think they generally just want you to vote so that games that people do want
- 57:49get through and the others don't just kind of sit there and stagnate so I
- 57:52think voting no helps um they want you to do one or the other you know what I
- 57:58mean so yeah but yeah because it's not going to be a game for everyone I don't
- 58:01think it's not a game for me no I mean I'm interested I want to
- 58:06know more about it I don't know if I need to play it to know what I want to
- 58:10know you know like I just need somebody else to I don't think I would ever
- 58:13play no I don't either I I think I probably watch a couple of YouTube
- 58:17videos and I mean if there is a game there like some kind of game play like I
- 58:23don't know more than just here is a map with some random people and it go shoot
- 58:27them all like that's not really a game you know you could do that in any game
- 58:34if you wanted to I don't know uh but there's one more piece of
- 58:40steam related news uh and it is uh some personal news um and that's just to say
- 58:46that um a game um Bermuda that I did the soundtrack for um it was made by my good
- 58:53friend Marcus um invert Mouse uh was also on Steam Greenlight and it's been
- 58:57green lit so it's that's great yeah it's gonna be on Steam yeah well done
- 59:03congratulations yeah cheers and yeah congratulations to Marcus um he works
- 59:08really hard on these and um and he deserves it so I'm I'm really glad that
- 59:11it got through and thanks to everybody for voting and um check it out it's a
- 59:15visual novel um with kind of um Stealth
- 59:19gameplay uh elements in between um so if that's your kind of thing um check it
- 59:24out and uh yeah be on the store soon for sale so yeah yeah pretty exciting nice
- 59:31one that's a thing that I didn't think would ever happen so that's pretty cool
- 59:36no you know what I mean it's like isn't any good no it's just like oh I did the
- 59:41soundtrack for a game something that You' done is now on Steam it's literally
- 59:45a commercial game on Steam and I did the soundtrack for it that's just I part of
- 59:48the steam Universe yeah it's uh got a case thanks man I got a case of imposter
- 59:54syndrome I think that's what it is but um that'll go away
- 59:59eventually so oh one more bit of steam news before we go cool last bit I
- 1:00:05promise um remember last episode we gave away the half the code for Tales of
- 1:00:09Borderlands yeah do we know if anyone claimed that um I don't know if the
- 1:00:15Tweet with the second half has gone up yet at the time of this recording um it
- 1:00:20might have in which case well no we don't know here's the answer to your
- 1:00:23question so well I'm just a saying he I'm hoping that the person that does is
- 1:00:28successful in getting it lets us know about it yeah so if you won the code
- 1:00:31last week please let us know I mean I can check by going on Steam and trying
- 1:00:34to redeem it myself but that's you know I don't want to have to do that just let
- 1:00:38us know write in and let us know if you won please that would be great and we'll
- 1:00:44announce you on the podcast if you want if you don't want us to just say so want
- 1:00:47us to yeah we have bad bad experiences with that in the past so if you don't
- 1:00:51want us to mention your name just say that's fine cuz uh in case you haven't
- 1:00:56noticed we're missing the filters between our brains and our mouths that a
- 1:01:00lot of people have so happy to not mention
- 1:01:06you look while we're talking about games can I take a little bit of a a left turn
- 1:01:11for a sec sure and has anybody seen what they're doing at traffic lights in
- 1:01:18Germany I traffic saw the article traffic lights in Germany now have a
- 1:01:23game of pong attached to them yeah uh
- 1:01:27and you play against the person on the other side of the
- 1:01:32road and I think that's this is this is a great thing and they should probably
- 1:01:37introduce it in a lot of places cuz this would stop me
- 1:01:41jaywalking yeah I would wait for the lights it would stop me j walking it
- 1:01:46would stop me jaywalking once but it's it's basically you know
- 1:01:52you walk up to the pole you press the button you wait for it to go now you
- 1:01:55walk up and you start playing pong and it's a little touch screen and uh you're
- 1:02:00playing against the dude who's waiting on the other side and it's amazing it's
- 1:02:04pretty cool yeah I um I the one thing about it that makes me a little bit is
- 1:02:09that it's a touchcreen kind of like an iPad or an iPhone and I I'm pretty sure
- 1:02:14after one day I would walk past look at the screen and think I'm not touching
- 1:02:18that look at it it's disgusting well it's the same as just pushing the
- 1:02:22button well it is except it's not because it's going to look like like a
- 1:02:27glass display like you know when somebody if somebody pulls out their
- 1:02:30their their phone or their tablet or whatever and it's got all crusty finger
- 1:02:35Gunk all over it like is that repulsive no it's it's repulsive like like I don't
- 1:02:40know we have an iPad at work and sometimes after it's you know been used
- 1:02:45for testing and stuff around the office I grab it and I'm like [ __ ] sake you
- 1:02:49using it with a Fleshlight attachment or oh I mean I'm not going to touch with my
- 1:02:52fingers I have to use my penis I don't want to to get finger
- 1:02:57juice on my fingers anyway I just I just think Jes I
- 1:03:03think something like this is going to get a bit bit dirty maybe they need to
- 1:03:06put a little cleaning cloth on there hanging at the side for people like me
- 1:03:10bit of spray yeah yeah exactly yeah bit of bit of cleaning spray yeah yeah I we
- 1:03:15could spit on it I guess oh I get luk to spit on it y he's got more exper he's
- 1:03:20got more experience
- 1:03:27so Pirate Bay Gone yeah yeah is it still gone cuz it it came back for a little
- 1:03:33while gone oh it was gone the last time I tried to go there for research
- 1:03:37purposes only and I even just I just went on before we started recording just
- 1:03:41to make sure yep it looks like it is gone for good yeah I'm trying to get on
- 1:03:46to it now and no for people who didn't hear about it uh the they got raided
- 1:03:51over in Sweden probably what two weeks ago now yeah
- 1:03:57they used the um the Sony hack as an excuse apparently the films that got
- 1:04:01stolen during the the Sony hack um some films some of them weren't even released
- 1:04:06yet um got was stolen in a you know someone got into Sony's Network pinched
- 1:04:11him and they ended up on the Pirate Bay so they used that as an excuse to seize all their
- 1:04:16servers at least that's what I read at the time and uh it's gone I haven't
- 1:04:22actually read a lot it's not something that's yeah I just I I didn't know that
- 1:04:27that was the reason they got ra I just knew they got raided and
- 1:04:30then heard somewhere along that oh they'll be back soon cuz they normally
- 1:04:34always are oh yeah yeah well they were they were briefly back up on a different
- 1:04:38at a different domain briefly um yeah but with that one that one that was back
- 1:04:43up it didn't actually work right okay it looked like they just had the front page
- 1:04:47up but didn't actually go anywhere and I was told that there was
- 1:04:51another site that had the catalog but I I tried to search for things on it and
- 1:04:57it was a nogo as well for research purposes only of course yeah yes
- 1:05:02yes but it's not going to stop anything there's already there's a dozen torrent
- 1:05:06sites ready to take its place oh yeah I've recently discovered that demonoid
- 1:05:10is back so um I didn't even know that it' come back so that's that was
- 1:05:15interesting I thought it was still gone forever but I mean so I guess that just
- 1:05:19means you can't get rid of them you know
- 1:05:21permanently I mean I don't know surely
- 1:05:26somebody somewhere has got a backup of of the Pirate Bay you know what I mean
- 1:05:31like because the Pirate Bay doesn't have the files yeah like the the people have the
- 1:05:35files that's the whole that's the beauty of torrent is that it's all
- 1:05:40distributed so it's just a database yeah that needs to be um you know popped back
- 1:05:46up somewhere but I guess it's yeah you got to be really careful because it's a
- 1:05:49[ __ ] massive Target yeah I mean I'm not going to I'm
- 1:05:53not going to do it no probably not worth it probably probably
- 1:06:00not well I mean I I didn't use the
- 1:06:02Pirate Bay much anyway no I just went to
- 1:06:10Italy I uh I did I I I'm going to be lost without it unless one of you guys
- 1:06:16can uh turn me onto something else really you used it you used it a lot did
- 1:06:21you yeah it was my go-to for uh research
- 1:06:25yeah wow it was the only one that I've ever used that was just No
- 1:06:31Nonsense right you know what I mean like type in what you want and there it
- 1:06:37is there you go then oh thanks man where just on the
- 1:06:44spreadsheet spread oh oh okay more there's that
- 1:06:51one now all the list are going to be like oh what is it what is it
- 1:06:56are we going to put a link to that in the show notes no I don't think we are I
- 1:06:59don't know do we probably not no I don't
- 1:07:02think so I think we've been you know all right listeners if you know any t s
- 1:07:08right in I'm serious right in if you've got you know any good tent sites let us know
- 1:07:13I'm curious and also I want I want in yeah yeah I don't think it's illegal
- 1:07:20to request access to torent sites is it well no cuz not everything on a t site
- 1:07:26is against copyright people actually release stuff they want out there on
- 1:07:30torrent sites good point good point L releas for making it yeah I know a lot
- 1:07:36of I know there have been movies that people have released on there
- 1:07:41so um not all bad while we're talking about this
- 1:07:46because I I mean I mentioned the Sony hack do we want to talk about uh the
- 1:07:51other aspect of the Sony hack that's kind of big news at the moment yeah the
- 1:07:55interview it's not getting a cinema release now it's not getting um a
- 1:08:00release at all I think is that at all yeah as as far as I know they've
- 1:08:06absolutely they've completely shelved it yeah but uh does somebody who knows
- 1:08:11about it want to want to take us through it I can if you want or do you want to
- 1:08:16go for it all right to do it and I want you to do it in an Indian voice all
- 1:08:22right well several weeks ago the servers of Sony Entertainment Productions I made
- 1:08:28up that name Sony had their servers hacked and uh a bunch of stuff was
- 1:08:35stolen uh emails and um documents and
- 1:08:40financial information and also somehow I guess they just had digital versions of
- 1:08:45them um some films new release films some hadn't been out yet some that were
- 1:08:50out and we're just floating around and um now from what I understand at first
- 1:08:55a financial requ like a demand for money was made in return for not releasing
- 1:09:01stuff and then Sony said [ __ ] off uh because they didn't actually know
- 1:09:06what had been taken and then um the hackers calling they called themselves
- 1:09:11the Guardians Of Peace I think um released they only just came out with
- 1:09:15that name I believe right I think before couple of days ago they were just
- 1:09:20Anonymous I don't say they weren't Anonymous they were posting Anonymous yeah gotcha
- 1:09:25Well they um they said uh we're going to they put up a bunch of personal emails
- 1:09:30between um people like Aaron salken and um producers at Sony and between the
- 1:09:36head of Sony didn't those emails make them look like children yeah they they posted some
- 1:09:42stuff that was pretty um I guess controversial in a sense that you know
- 1:09:46people were making a bit some casually racist jokes about certain actors and
- 1:09:52things like that and it was you know it's it's not the kind of stuff that
- 1:09:56they want out you know yeah so Sony kind
- 1:10:00of [ __ ] themselves a bit um but then further than that they somebody not not
- 1:10:07the hackers at first somebody said we think maybe it was North Korea I think I
- 1:10:12think maybe Sony or or some us um you know like legal entity said oh we think
- 1:10:18North Korea may have been involved and whether because of that or because it
- 1:10:23was them they've said this movie the interview which is a film starring Seth
- 1:10:27Rogan and James Franco where they are hired to assassinate Kim y or Kim
- 1:10:33Jong-un is that his name Kim yeah Kim
- 1:10:36Jong-un yeah Kim Jong-un so um which obviously North careers they wouldn't be
- 1:10:41a big fan of a film like that because he's their leader so probably not yeah
- 1:10:47well they don't know any better the citizens um so they said if you release
- 1:10:53this film um remember September 11th because we'll do the same thing at every
- 1:10:58Cinema it screens in which is a ridiculous claim to make you think think
- 1:11:04about it um you don't have to think that hard it's a ridiculous thing to threaten
- 1:11:11um but I mean it is quite a serious threat nonetheless so uh a lot of
- 1:11:16Cinemas said well we're not going to show the film yeah
- 1:11:21and canceled um all screenings and then
- 1:11:26Sony then said well okay we just we're not going to release the film at
- 1:11:32all uh and so basically these hackers
- 1:11:36whoever they are just killed this movie and a lot of people are saying
- 1:11:42this is ridiculous like like you've just
- 1:11:46set a really bad precedent because
- 1:11:49yeah like I mean of like I mean I don't want to they like I guess in theory they
- 1:11:56could but I mean it's very unlikely that they were actually going to you know
- 1:11:59blow blow up every Cinema in the world all 18,000 Cinemas that it was showing
- 1:12:04in in the US I mean and I mean obviously the argument is even if they blew up one
- 1:12:10that's that's bad enough but that's bad enough but I mean if it's can North
- 1:12:15Korea does North Korea have the ability to do that
- 1:12:19yeah I think they do and honestly are we just going to start not doing things
- 1:12:24because North Korea we should have and well I mean this is that kind
- 1:12:29of thing you don't negotiate with terrorists because then you set a
- 1:12:32precedent yeah um and this is the weird like even the Department of Homeland
- 1:12:37Security actually said there's no credible threat no evidence of a
- 1:12:40credible threat no no because they didn't even know who it was it was just
- 1:12:44some random people on the internet in theory who just then sent this they
- 1:12:49wanted money at first how could it be North Korea why would North Korea demand
- 1:12:52money like if they're trying to so I think Sony I can understand maybe
- 1:12:58holding off on the release cuz it would hurt
- 1:13:01sales but maybe release it 6 months time
- 1:13:06when well the other thing is apparently the film is terrible oh oh look I mean
- 1:13:13it looks [ __ ] awful but as a rule I don't watch movies that star Seth Rogan
- 1:13:18and James Franco so I probably wasn't going to go see this one either but I
- 1:13:24mean this they basically just like guaranteed everyone's going to want to
- 1:13:29see this now just because everyone like people who wouldn't even have known what
- 1:13:32it was now know about it because because this is like big news and not only that
- 1:13:38people are saying it gives Sony in a way it gives Sony uh the ability to do
- 1:13:44something that they've like move film Publishers have wanted to do for a long
- 1:13:49time which is um release it on all platforms at once because the cinemas
- 1:13:55this time the cinemas said no we don't want to put it out where normally they
- 1:13:59the reason that they don't do it all at the same time is to keep the cinemas
- 1:14:02happy yeah that's true so in this case it gives Sony the freedom to just do
- 1:14:07whatever they want with it it could be a bit of an experiment or or as someone
- 1:14:10tweeted I can't unfortunately I can't give credit because I don't recall who
- 1:14:13it was someone tweeted um Sony should just email it to themselves and then we
- 1:14:17can all watch [Laughter]
- 1:14:22it so yeah nice so anyway yeah that's um it's kind of a it's kind of a big deal I
- 1:14:28guess like they all caved and now this film's just not getting released yeah I
- 1:14:33got a shock that they caved I didn't think they would yeah you know what I
- 1:14:39think I think the movie was [ __ ] terrible and they knew it yeah Sony knew
- 1:14:45it and then [ __ ] we've already put out the trailer everyone knows it's got two
- 1:14:51of Hollywood's biggest stars in it everyone's going to go and see this
- 1:14:54thing and it is awful and then this
- 1:15:00happened and they went you know what
- 1:15:04we're not releasing it Merry
- 1:15:09Christmas yeah oh someone pointed out too I don't know how how true this is um
- 1:15:16well I mean as far as I'm aware North Korea has fairly limited Military
- 1:15:19capabilities um however Japan is a lot closer to them than than the US and Sony
- 1:15:23is based in Japan and pointed that out and I went okay that is
- 1:15:27true so I don't know whether that's a factor at all but I mean it was just an
- 1:15:32interesting point son pictures is not based in Japan in Hollywood California I isn't it
- 1:15:37the president of Sony said no we're not doing that
- 1:15:44could Sony pictures oh okay oh maybe I'm mistaken
- 1:15:49then I think Sony someone was having final say over the death scene
- 1:15:57that's true send it back to him the president going hey what do you think of
- 1:16:01this and he kept going no yeah I remember someone fire less
- 1:16:06skull oh Jesus evidently his head gets blown up right that right well not
- 1:16:12anymore it doesn't no well there you go we don't get to see
- 1:16:19a terrible film well allegedly terrible I guess we'll never know speaking of
- 1:16:22terrible films yes do we want to have a
- 1:16:27segment we can we can absolutely have a segment this is um Matt's horrifically
- 1:16:33horrible horror homnibus Christmas
- 1:16:35Edition that's horrifically horrible
- 1:16:40horror Christmas
- 1:16:45edition that on the end
- 1:16:47yeah um so this is a slight change of
- 1:16:52format because I've seen this film ah and I want to try and do this more often
- 1:16:57I've actually watched the film in question the premise of this um segment
- 1:17:02is I'm going to give out the name of the film and then um Luke and Dan have to
- 1:17:07try and guess the plot just generally of the film based on that name all right
- 1:17:13and um this is a Christmas editioned so the film this week it's a horror film
- 1:17:19they're always horror films because I like horror films this film is called
- 1:17:23Santa's SLE Santa's Slay all right Luke do you want
- 1:17:29to uh ask the first question yeah I've got a question I'd
- 1:17:35just like to maybe ask but start off with yeah sure may may as well uh does
- 1:17:39anyone get their breasts cut
- 1:17:42off no Noh unfortunately not I I need to
- 1:17:48I couldn't find a Christmas film where that happens I did want to F that dream
- 1:17:52for you yeah I did find a film once so it's called Christmas sleigh Santa
- 1:17:58sorry Santa slay forgot already Santa slay Santa slay Santa slay can I Sant
- 1:18:03slay my first question H is slay
- 1:18:08spelled s l e i g h or SL a
- 1:18:13y it's spelled SL y of course mhm had a
- 1:18:20had a strong feeling it might have been
- 1:18:23yeah so are we talking a renegade Santa or are we talking Santa having to save
- 1:18:29the day I mean this could go in either direction what do you reckon
- 1:18:33Luke I my bet would be a renegade Santa yeah it is along those lines yes
- 1:18:40I'm going to guess it's also set around Christmas yeah it
- 1:18:44is well I think you're probably right about that one think it's probably set around
- 1:18:51Christmas yep I just want to get a question right for once okay well take
- 1:18:58it away
- 1:19:02um I'm going to guess now think about the nature of Santa like what what what
- 1:19:08is Santa why would somebody like Santa exist he's got you know he's got some
- 1:19:13powers and abilities what's that about yeah well he's got his naughty list and
- 1:19:18his Nic he does we've all got those I mean those are objects not Powers but he
- 1:19:23does yeah be all right he knows who's on the
- 1:19:28[ __ ] list thanks man he does yep he has the power to read
- 1:19:34yep well who writes the list no he makes the lists he can write he can
- 1:19:40write he knows who's been bad or good he
- 1:19:43checks them twice y yep he's fastidious here's my question about this
- 1:19:50if he knows who's good and bad why does he need a list yeah
- 1:19:55well make sure why is he so why does he have so little confidence in his own
- 1:20:00omnipotence that he has to check the list not once but twice yeah even though
- 1:20:06he already knows and why
- 1:20:10assuming to find out who's naughty and nice
- 1:20:16yeah making a list made the list he's checking it twice he's going to find out
- 1:20:20he's he made the list he doesn't need to
- 1:20:22find out yeah yeah be good for goodness
- 1:20:27[Laughter] sake all right
- 1:20:34so [Music]
- 1:20:38um has maybe Santa just cracked and started to he's decided he's just going
- 1:20:43to kill the naughty children now not exactly no he
- 1:20:50um like like I said think about like what kind of a a being could be Santa a
- 1:20:56demon of some sort right well that's uh you know that's quite a premise if Santa
- 1:21:01was a demon uh would he be
- 1:21:04possessing anybody no no he's himself no
- 1:21:09he's himself but he he is perhaps possessed no he's no he's not he's not I
- 1:21:15think the demon thing may have been a red herring then no no you're [ __ ]
- 1:21:19with us now Matt no no no no no one gets possessed by a demon no nobody gets
- 1:21:25possessed by a demon Santa is a demon yes y right but a demon who doesn't want
- 1:21:32to possess anyone who just wants to kill he wants to kill every child on
- 1:21:36Christmas Eve no he does want to kill all of them does he
- 1:21:42want just the good ones then
- 1:21:48he's just a [ __ ] with who he's just a dick look he's out he's he's out for a
- 1:21:53bit of Revenge actually oh because if you think about it what a demon wouldn't
- 1:22:00do the kind of things that Santa does so have you think about that why would a
- 1:22:03demon do the kind of things that Santa does because he wasn't given any
- 1:22:08presentence himself as a child he be getting out of it he's
- 1:22:13pissed off about it a lot of coal has being taken
- 1:22:20away Dan is using up a lot of fossil fuels giv coal to every bad
- 1:22:26kid something about Rudolph's red nose no no where did Jesus come from answer
- 1:22:33me that oh whoa who okay getting getting esoteric now are we came from our Lord
- 1:22:39came from our Lord the Lord sent him to to Earth yeah he was he the Son of God
- 1:22:44and he was born at Christmas and so if you've got a demon also born at
- 1:22:48Christmas who I see where you I I I see where you're going Matt I see where
- 1:22:52you're going with this h so this is the son of the devil so he's
- 1:22:57not content just following Santa one house behind and just taking the Pres
- 1:23:01back no no he is Santa he is Santa he's Santa the son of Satan so
- 1:23:08what you're saying is that Santa is the Antichrist well yeah he's he's Satan's
- 1:23:13son he's there were two Immaculate conceptions right and he finally upset
- 1:23:18that he's not getting any credit cuz everyone's starting to celebrate Jesus's
- 1:23:22birthday no he shall I I mean this is this the complexities of this plot are going to
- 1:23:28be difficult to KN out so shall I shall I reveal the story why don't you take
- 1:23:32over Matt
- 1:23:36yeah thousand years ago Santa the son of
- 1:23:40Satan used to travel around and Slaughter children every Christmas that
- 1:23:46was his thing until one day an angel knew that he was a Gambling Man
- 1:23:52and um challenged him to a game of what's that game where you slide the
- 1:23:55little thing along the ice to try and get it closest to the hole without it
- 1:23:59falling in ice [ __ ] bowling whatever
- 1:24:02that is yeah SK um no it's uh I watched this actually watched this with your
- 1:24:08girlfriend one night curling curling curing yeah so they got to get try and
- 1:24:14get the the little puck thing closest to the hole he bets him and he says if you
- 1:24:19uh if he if s Santa loses he has to be kind at Christmas for a thousand
- 1:24:25years oh and a thousand years up been doing a thousand years are up so and
- 1:24:32that's what this film is about and uh also the main character's grandfather is the
- 1:24:37Angel uh they don't really explain how that's how how that works the angel who
- 1:24:43went around impregnating everybody the no the angel that that challenged um
- 1:24:47Santa to the to the match and then so the Santa's after him basically gotcha
- 1:24:53okay
- 1:24:57he also kills uh the Jewish Baker in town with one of those elaborate Jewish
- 1:25:02candal Aras that I can't recall the name of you could have you could have uh
- 1:25:06manora you could have just said Baker Matt no it's important casually racist point
- 1:25:12out I see you're right the guy who makes the
- 1:25:18bagels gets killed by Santa and like it
- 1:25:21aanii yeah he does he
- 1:25:25does yeah so that's uh that's Santa's
- 1:25:29sle uh it's it's not a great film it was
- 1:25:34entertaining um I did like it it's got Fran drer in it for about five minutes
- 1:25:38oh young Fran drer or old FR drer uh old frer it's actually not that old this
- 1:25:44film um oh so that's what she's doing now schlock horror yeah yeah well and
- 1:25:50like I said she's only in for five minutes they probably tell you what's
- 1:25:53going to happen to her in the first five so that was their aist that they got on
- 1:25:57board yeah basically yeah but yeah I I I liked it if you like um goofy horror
- 1:26:03movies check it [Music] out I guess the only other thing that I
- 1:26:09would kind of want to discuss was the um the fact that George Lucas doesn't give
- 1:26:13a [ __ ] about any new Star Wars movies like he literally just doesn't [ __ ] care yeah is
- 1:26:20great well of yeah because the the fact that he I mean it's it's a bit disconcerting
- 1:26:26that he hasn't even watched this trailer although as we've discovered during the
- 1:26:31week A lot of people are boycotting the trailer for one reason or another
- 1:26:36um but it does mean that he's what people boycot involved well they're either trying to
- 1:26:43not ruin the surprise for themselves or they're just not trying to build it up
- 1:26:48so that they're managing expectations okay okay all because they've been hurt
- 1:26:55by Star Wars spin-offs in the past mhm yeah well I know we were all kind of
- 1:27:00worried when George Lucas was still going to be kept on as a
- 1:27:04consultant but now it's starting to seem like that's just a title certainly
- 1:27:08sounds like that may not be the case hey George we're still going to
- 1:27:12call this Star Wars and do our own thing is that okay sure whatever but can I
- 1:27:17just say though I mean look maybe I'm just overly I just disappoints yeah no
- 1:27:21exactly I'm I'm probably overly romanticizing the situation
- 1:27:27but thinker wait it in don't give a [ __ ]
- 1:27:32mate I haven't seen it didn't bother I'm not going to watch it don't care cuz I
- 1:27:38honest I like to think any anything that I created like like like music or you
- 1:27:43know one of you know one of our silly little films if somebody went on to take
- 1:27:47over the mantle right and this thing I created like if I cre saying if Disney
- 1:27:51bought apartment 32A yeah that's right and us as aan and they
- 1:27:57made third one yeah and then they said have you seen the trailer I would be
- 1:28:01like [ __ ] yeah I saw the trailer of course I can't believe he got Oscar
- 1:28:05Isaac's to star in it yes of course I saw the trailer this is a thing that I
- 1:28:12created that made me who I am today of course I watched it I demanded to see
- 1:28:17the trailer before you even put it online so I don't know if maybe he's
- 1:28:22just trying to play it down
- 1:29:00[Laughter]
- 1:29:24you watch your own film in a room with other people who are seeing it for the
- 1:29:27first time you can feel how other people
- 1:29:32oh I was judging you so hard the other week Dan watch film I could feel you
- 1:29:37judging me I could feel it but you know if a joke doesn't sit well you feel that
- 1:29:42you know and yeah I can only imagine what it would have been like to be in
- 1:29:47the screening room at the first cut and first cuts are always bad anyway but of
- 1:29:53a movie that at its best is not very
- 1:29:57good yeah and at its worst