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  Speaker 1: The Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: There is Hey, that's right, love it man, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Trekcast Everybody, The Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I am Scott Strong Beard Bouchers and with me is
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Reyes. Morning, Good morning man. Are you being Uh
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of a rough start to the week. I've
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  Speaker 2: been on vacation all week, kind of a stagation. And yeah, Sunday, well,
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  Speaker 2: Sunday night, just uh, a few hours after the podcast,
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  Speaker 2: the power went out for two oh no, So yeah
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  Speaker 2: we had to you know, we've got a generator and
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  Speaker 2: you know, camping gear and right stuff like that, so
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  Speaker 2: we're we're we're pretty well prepared for longer power out.
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  Speaker 2: It just it's just really inconvenient having to plug in
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  Speaker 2: the refrigerator and run the extension cords. And we've got
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  Speaker 2: a gas fireplace that operates on a light switch and
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  Speaker 2: it works whether the power.
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  Speaker 3: Is on or not.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, talk about the science behind it. Yeah, it's yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so we got cold food, we've got warm people. We're good.
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  Speaker 2: It's just massively inconvenient.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that would be annoying.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise, it's just been kind of a chill, chill week.
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  Speaker 2: I spent most of the week watching Star Trek the
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  Speaker 2: Motion Picture.
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  Speaker 3: Right because it did so long. Yeah, yeah, that's watched
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  Speaker 3: the last Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's our big topic. We're we're talking about Star
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  Speaker 2: Trek the Motion Picture. Yeah, nineteen seventy nine classic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some things to say.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes, me too, for better or worse for better?
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  Speaker 4: Right right right. I I had a deep dive into
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  Speaker 4: it afterwards because I was like, what is going on
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  Speaker 4: with this movie?
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot to delve into.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there is, there actually is, So I can't wait
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  Speaker 4: to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: The movie that it was an episode that thought it
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  Speaker 2: was a movie.
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  Speaker 4: That yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll definitely jump into that for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And then yeah, before we get into that, we got
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  Speaker 2: some Star Trek news.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, let's get into that Star Trek news all right.
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  Speaker 4: So there's quite a bit of news and I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to get to it. Our first story comes to us
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  Speaker 4: from disgusting film, not disgusting, but discussing.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh, discussing film.
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  Speaker 4: Discussing film. Yes, I realized I kind of slurred my
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  Speaker 4: words there and I was like, letter, say.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know if you know, but this week,
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  Speaker 4: earlier this week, there was CinemaCon, and this is where
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  Speaker 4: all of the studios kind of present to the to
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  Speaker 4: the movie theater chains Hey, here's what we got coming
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  Speaker 4: down the pike. I would love for you to help
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  Speaker 4: promote it and put it in theaters and all that
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  Speaker 4: kind of stuff. And so every major studio did a presentation,
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  Speaker 4: Sony Disney and of course Paramount, right oh boy, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So the reason I bring this up is we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: go through kind of some of the highlights of Paramount.
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  Speaker 4: We won't go through everything, but of you the highlights,
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  Speaker 4: and then we'll talk about something on the back end
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  Speaker 4: of this.
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  Speaker 3: So okay.
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  Speaker 4: So Paramount they gave their presentation. They talked about how
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  Speaker 4: they're very excited for the upcoming mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning.
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  Speaker 4: There's gonna be a new Smurfs film. They I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if you saw the trailer, but they released the
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  Speaker 4: trailer for a remake of The Naked Gun like a reboot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it looks like it is a It is a reboot,
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  Speaker 4: not a remake, necessarily, because it looks like the original
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  Speaker 4: ones are still in that universe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like Qui gon Jen's dad.
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  Speaker 3: Was that's right, That's right, was lessen Niels. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: They also talked about Scream seven and a new Airbender
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  Speaker 4: or Avatar of the Last Airbender film, this time animated.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you ever got into that franchise.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, I did. It's pretty good. I like it,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, I'm looking.
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  Speaker 2: Forward to the Final Reckoning, the Mission Possible Final.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. Those are always solid movies there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, regardless how you feel about Tom Cruise, I think
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  Speaker 2: he's a bit of an overactor. I really can't. I
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  Speaker 2: can't stand him as a person, but I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you can't die that he's that It's okay movies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I am excited about those Mission Impossible films. I
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  Speaker 4: have a joke with my buddy that really all these
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  Speaker 4: movies are is uh Tom Cruise on his quest for death?
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  Speaker 3: Because you know, when you're yeah, when you're that rich,
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  Speaker 3: nothing is exciting.
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  Speaker 4: When you have the top tier of life, of everything,
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  Speaker 4: nothing is you know, So the only the only thrill
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  Speaker 4: he gets is trying to kill himself and so we get.
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  Speaker 2: To pay them getting email from the Church of Scientology.
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  Speaker 2: Oh weird, weird discuss Tom Cruise. Yeah, okay, I guess
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  Speaker 2: we're not allowed to talk about scientology.
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  Speaker 3: Then we're not. I'm not no, I'm not gonna talk.
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  Speaker 2: About scientology at all, Danielly, there, I can't hear you.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly, exactly exactly. Also, they talked about Sonic the Hedgehog four.
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  Speaker 4: They're gonna make a fourth one of those. Uh They're
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  Speaker 4: also going to make another teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant
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  Speaker 4: Mayhem two.
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  Speaker 3: Don't sure.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see the first one. I've I've seen I
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  Speaker 2: think just about every other uh tm n t property. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know if I've seen that.
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  Speaker 3: I saw the first one. I liked it. It's fine.
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  Speaker 3: It's not great, it's not terrible.
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  Speaker 2: It's c G I this is like computer animated or
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  Speaker 2: like animated animation or is this more like.
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  Speaker 3: D Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I think it is three D, but it looks almost
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  Speaker 4: two D in a way. It's it's an odd animation.
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  Speaker 4: They definitely came up with their own style, which is cool.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, But as long as the story is good, I
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  Speaker 2: mean really yeah animated, I can kind of look past anything.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's a there's a couple of underrated straight
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  Speaker 4: to DVD Ninja Turtle movies. There's the one Ninja Turtles
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  Speaker 4: Versus Batman.
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  Speaker 2: I saw it, I own it. I own that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a little collection.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, that one's really good. And then there's the
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  Speaker 4: Ninja Turtles Forever were they were? They break into the
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  Speaker 4: multi verse and they have other versions of the Turtles.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I don't know if I looked. I
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  Speaker 2: watched that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's pretty good too.
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  Speaker 2: Batman. Yeah, in uh, Ninja Turtles and uh Batman Batman
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  Speaker 2: versus Shredder that fight scene yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah that that fight was pretty great. Anyways, back
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  Speaker 4: to the paramount On presentation. So what what I thought
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  Speaker 4: was pretty interesting? And I don't know if you've noticed this,
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  Speaker 4: no mention of Star Trek at all. Yeah, Hey, we've
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  Speaker 4: got a movie in the works that we're protecting for
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  Speaker 4: you know, twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing not.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's where we're at with Star Trek and Paramounts.
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  Speaker 4: So that's that's sad.
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  Speaker 2: My thought is I it seems like it's going well.
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  Speaker 2: Is sky Dance buying it or not? I don't remember they're.
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  Speaker 3: In the process. They're in the process.
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  Speaker 2: The process. Now, okay, because the other bid that I'll
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  Speaker 2: bid them wasn't legit and well.
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  Speaker 3: They don't know. They're they're going to court about.
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  Speaker 2: It, So okay, it does sky Dance. One would think
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  Speaker 2: sky Dance does want and like Star Trek because they've
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  Speaker 2: been involved with Star Trek before. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they produced a couple of films, so.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you would think so. But I wonder if
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  Speaker 2: whoever buys it wants to spin Star Trek off into
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  Speaker 2: like its own thing or I don't know, just make
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  Speaker 2: it son. I don't know, Star Trek Studios.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I also wonder at this point is
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  Speaker 4: Star Trek just better as a TV show and not movies.
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek is better as a TV show. It's not God,
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  Speaker 2: I just I just want to go to the movie
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  Speaker 2: theater and see, Yeah, Star Trek first contact all over again,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and who doesn't who doesn't? I mean, after
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  Speaker 2: that it just kind of went downhill. If they had
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  Speaker 2: the right people helming film, then yeah, do another film,
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  Speaker 2: don't do a streaming film. Actually, Star Trek has the
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  Speaker 2: balls to make it as a theatrical release.
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  Speaker 3: Right, so do it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Well then our next new story it comes
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  Speaker 4: to us from the Verge and I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: you saw this, but along with all the news that
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  Speaker 4: came out in CinemaCon, we did get a new trailer
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  Speaker 4: for Strange New Worlds season three.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was a trailer.
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  Speaker 4: I will play a little bit of it here while
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  Speaker 4: we talk about it. We'll see if we get a
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  Speaker 4: copyright strike on that, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So there seems to be a lot going on
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  Speaker 3: with it, a lot of a lot of wackiness. It
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  Speaker 3: looks like a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of like that looks like alid grid.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, which shouldn't be but whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But the time travel, Yeah, Paton Noswalt's in there, which
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  Speaker 4: I like that guy.
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  Speaker 3: So that makes me like yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: One thing I thought was interesting is at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the trailer they show us that it will be
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  Speaker 4: returning this summer, which is weird because we got a
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  Speaker 4: release date for Europe but not for America.
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  Speaker 2: That's so that's weird. What is do you know? I
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  Speaker 2: have the release date?
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  Speaker 4: Not not offhand, I want to say it's like August
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  Speaker 4: or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it says summer.
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  Speaker 4: And I looked it up the day that it's supposed
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  Speaker 4: to come out in August.
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  Speaker 3: What is what is the UK release date? Can you
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  Speaker 3: look that up?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, peace? No, what is it? Oh? April second
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  Speaker 3: is yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's this summer that.
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  Speaker 3: No April second would be like now, oh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh that's what they're okay, sorry, So I'm
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  Speaker 4: reading about all the previous release dates that have been
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  Speaker 4: blown through and April second was one of them. Really yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so we should be having strange worlds right now, but
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  Speaker 4: we don't.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But anyways, there there was a date release for the
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  Speaker 4: UK on Sky I think it is, and when I
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  Speaker 4: looked it up, that's a Friday. Okay, yeah, when I
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  Speaker 4: looked it up, that's a Friday. And so typically they
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  Speaker 4: released Star Trek on a Thursday, so I imagine the day
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  Speaker 4: before would be paramount, but we don't know that for
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  Speaker 4: sure yet. It almost feels like they're waiting to make
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  Speaker 4: the announcement somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Well okay, why wait, Usually that's a sign that something's
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  Speaker 2: not right.
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  Speaker 3: Mmm or like, I don't I don't think that.
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  Speaker 2: I think trying to generate buzz or yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what it is.
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  Speaker 4: I think because right now, because they're in such a
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  Speaker 4: holding pattern with Paramounts, any little bit of news that
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  Speaker 4: they can stretch out is promotion. Okay, okay, that's my thought, right,
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  Speaker 4: that's my hoping, you know, trying to look for the
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  Speaker 4: for the positive in this that that's kind of what
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking, right. Yeah, So like at a comic con
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  Speaker 4: or what is STLV maybe I don't know if that's
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  Speaker 4: in August, but somewhere along that timeframe, they could then announce,
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  Speaker 4: oh yeah, it's coming up next week or two weeks
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  Speaker 4: from now or three, you know, whatever it is at
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  Speaker 4: that point, and they get the blooing group, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: I just.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like all the Yeah, I get what what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing. I understand, you know, especially with what you
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  Speaker 2: just said about paramount and all that. Yeah, just it
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  Speaker 2: makes I think it makes the fans a little wary about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the future of Track. Can't they already announce
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  Speaker 2: season four?
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  Speaker 3: They announced they're shooting it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so it's.
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  Speaker 3: Been shot right now?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well then, yeah, I know that's not a cart
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  Speaker 2: anything either, but that's true.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. You can shoot a whole movies and just.
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  Speaker 4: Get rid of Yeah, all right, but whatever, we got
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  Speaker 4: a new teaser trailer, so that that's what did.
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  Speaker 2: You think about it? What Like, they they've got at
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  Speaker 2: least one episode where they're doing some sort of analog
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  Speaker 2: You saw him running like telephones, I mean yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: well the style it's holophones too, leads leads me to
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  Speaker 2: believe that it's it's some sort of fantasy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like, yeah, they've got this big goofy set
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  Speaker 4: with switches and.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like what sci fi looked like back in
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  Speaker 2: the fifties.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, fifties, sixties kind of era.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's hard for me to say because we
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  Speaker 4: don't know the context, right, Like, you can make anything
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  Speaker 4: look really bad or really good out of context.
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  Speaker 3: So so that's tough. It does feel like.
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  Speaker 2: They're like running cables like they're running yeah, tables around
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  Speaker 2: the ship, like they're running from the silods.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it feels like they're trying new stuff, like
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  Speaker 3: they said, you know, they definitely said, hey, we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: swing for the fences here. We're gonna take some big swings.
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  Speaker 2: Every once in a while, it's okay to bunt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for a base.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. What I do see is we're not getting strange
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  Speaker 4: new worlds as much as we're getting strange new outfits. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, yeah, and I want strange new worlds. I
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  Speaker 4: want to explore my exploring show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to explore my exploring show exactly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at, you know, But whatever,
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully it's good. I want to be.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I'm I'm hesitant and I want I want
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  Speaker 4: to be wrong about my hesitancy.
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  Speaker 3: But that's where I'm at with it right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Yeah, it's it's hard to talk about it
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  Speaker 2: without knowing more about it.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's that's the other thing. We don't know enough.
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  Speaker 4: So hopefully, hopefully you know it's good. But all right,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: our next new story comes to us from Gizmoto, and
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this, but they have
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  Speaker 4: announced Wave two of Nacell the Action figures, right, so
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  Speaker 4: we now know we now know more about Wave two.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna get a Generations Captain Kirk, so that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: I like it. And we also saw some of the accessories.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna get a horse in firewood and a stump Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: some eggs.
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  Speaker 3: A large browed if you ever leaded a large jar
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  Speaker 3: dilweed for your action figures?
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  Speaker 2: No, but okay, I what after I saw this movie
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  Speaker 2: back in ninety four, okay, I, and I started cooking
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  Speaker 2: on my own. I started looking up what is this
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: dill weed? What is this dill weed?
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  Speaker 1: So?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well what did.
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  Speaker 2: Kirk put it on? He put it on to carry
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  Speaker 2: an eggs. For the last twenty years, I have put
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  Speaker 2: dill on my eggs and everybody who have introduced it
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  Speaker 2: to love Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Really, yes, I won that.
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  Speaker 2: Go to the store. When you put salt and pepper
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  Speaker 2: on your eggs, scrambled, poach, hardball, doesn't matter, try dill
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  Speaker 2: on yours. It's delicious, okay, And it's all thanks to
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  Speaker 2: that Real Quick seed and generations I I.
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  Speaker 4: I like the idea though, that you're gonna get a
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  Speaker 4: Captain Kirk action figure with a horse and an axe
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  Speaker 4: so he can go into battle with he.
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  Speaker 2: Man with Prince out of Battle cat.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so that's that's kind of neat.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we did see some more figures that they've announced,
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  Speaker 4: So we're gonna get the Captain Kirk, We're gonna get
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  Speaker 4: a Captain Janeway from from the Year of Hell.
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  Speaker 3: Janeway is what they're saying.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna get the Sailor uniform wharph'n enterprise to Paul
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  Speaker 4: Sailor Uniform Jordy like the look of that one. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna get Valerius from the Undiscovered Country, Romulent Commander
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  Speaker 4: uh Carol Marcus from Rathacon.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna get a nog and that I'm excited about.
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  Speaker 4: And Bem from the animated series, which I I don't recognize.
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  Speaker 2: I have never seen. We're still We're still you know,
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  Speaker 2: like several months ago I said, I was one episode
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  Speaker 2: in the season two of yeah, or maybe two episodes
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  Speaker 2: of the season two of Star Trek the original series. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're not. We're now like three or four episodes into
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  Speaker 2: the seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, it's a it's a slow watch. Yeah yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, those who been clamoring for Bem at last,
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  Speaker 4: you will have your you will have your action.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder for Valarius, I wonder if they're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: a an alternate version of her.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because there's a.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know the story about how Geene Roddenberry got
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: super pissed at the actress. Yeah, it was a dog
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: detachable leg Oh, that that'd be perfect. No, Kim ConTroll
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: was caught. It was either Gene rowden Berry somebody. It
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: might have been our Benet. The director caught her on
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the bridge set take doing a nude photo shoot.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: What I didn't know this?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, Yeah, Kim Cantrell. She's other than Valais.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: She's famous for being one. Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Oh our other podcast.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yes that's right, the one we do on Saturdays.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: But which one of these figures are you most excited about? Uh?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I like the nog I like the kirk uh,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and I like the LaForge just because they're visually I
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: think interesting.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: You know, Wharf depending on what he comes. You know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Warf should come with a plank, Yes, a plank, Yeah,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and uh, Jordie should come with a he put but
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: not in the movie. He actually put binocular or a
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: monocular up to his advisor.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: He was looking at Oh dog Dog Green is sent.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Has anyone heard about the official star trek Lego sets.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: There's a flirting rumors at the beginning of the year,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: and then nothing.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I saw a picture somewhere, but Uh, yeah, there's been
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: mock ups people have like kind of given their ideas.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't know anything else new right now. It's
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: just the information came out at the beginning of the year.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I think they're scheduled to come out like right around
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Christmas time if they do come out, okay, so I imagine
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: we'll learn more in the summer.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Uh. I also want to know, Uh, war should come
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: with the blue barrel. Yes, oh, I should, yes, absolutely
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: should come with a blue barrel.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: And uh, let's see, Valera should come with like, you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: two other vulcan hands grab in her face, yeah, rape
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: mind meld oh geez. And Kirk should come with a
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: partial mangled bridge wrapped around.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Him, right right right yeah, And.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: And Paul should come with a a very like sweaty,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: horny trip character.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Just following her around everywhere, right right, yeah, all right,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: And uh then our last news story comes to us
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: from screen rants. This is pretty quick, but I thought
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: it was fun to share. So do you know who
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Todd McFarlane is. Name sounds familiar, Okay, So he's the
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: guy behind Spawn. He created spine yep, yep. He also
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: created the design for Venom. It's a comic book artist
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: also has a very successful toy company. But he recently
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: was asked and he gave his idea for the perfect
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: casting of Batman, especially with James Gunn going to have
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: his own Batman in the DCU as opposed to the
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Matt Reeves Batman. And you won't believe who he picked
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: who he thinks would be the perfect Batman. Oh boy,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: he picked Zachary Quinto. And he cited Zachary Quinto's as spot.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: He says, I'm not great with Hollywood names, but there's
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: an actor. He might be a little too old, but
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: he was spocking the Star Trek movies and he was
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: in Margin Call. That's Zachary Quinto.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Everybody who's shaking their head and going, that's the dumbest
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: thing I've ever heard, think back to the Spock Con
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: fight scene. Right, Zachary Quinto can hold his own in
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: a fight scene, right.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: And so Tom McFarland is dain is basically Zachary can
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: play somber really well. He can play serious really well.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: And those are two big traits you need for Batman.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And if he can get on the Tom Hardy like
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: diet and exercises to turn Tom Hardy from the I've
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Got a waistline of a fourteen year old girl shins
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: on and Star Trek Nemesis to reain.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Uh huh, then why not? Right right?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: See? I mean whenever we hear actors' names like this,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: we're like, oh, who would make a good Superman? Oh
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: so and so? Or who would make a good Batman? Oh,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Alan Richson or whoever you name. Ben Affleck, you know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: your initial shock or your initial like e, just because
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: you've never thought of it. I think you need to
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: sort of cast aside those those kind of doubts and
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: thoughts and just go back to some of the the
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: roles that they've had that were batman like. You know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: for as soon as you said Zachary Quinto, my first
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: thought was eh, and then I thought, hold on a second.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Zachary Quinto did that amazing fight scene and in the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Star Trek, you know, wrap the contra.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, he was pretty menacing as Siler in The Heroes,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: he was yep, so he can be intense.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: So I don't hate it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Hey, I love it, like I could see it, but
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: I don't it's not my first what's the guy's name again,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: it suggested this Todd McFarlane.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Todd McFarlane, yeh. And the reason why his name sounded
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: familiar he's been at one of the comic cons that
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I've been to.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah he Uh, he's kind of
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: popular up here where I live because he went to
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Eastern Washington University, which is kind of by Spokane.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so yeah, it's it's.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: The whole thing up here. But yeah, so there you go,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Todd McFarlane. Sam Zachary Quinto should be Batman, and uh,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: that's our news story.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Is my favorite for Batman is Alan Ritson.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I like him better as Aquaman, even though he
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: already played Aquaman.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: You know, if they actually cast recap, it's we've rarely
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: seen that though we're you know, people were like, all
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the new Flash would be Grant Gusta, right, but you
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: never see that.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: It just yeah, you know.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Where they go to the same a different franchise, but
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: same character. It's right, not done.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Often, it's not done often. I'm just saying, you know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: but all right, well let's uh, let's get to our
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: main topic. Commence, Yeah, motion picture fun will now commence.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: All right, So since we went through the uh, the
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Kelvin films. We're not going to go through the original films,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: and we start with Star Trek. The motion picture originally
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: released in nineteen seventy nine, before I was born.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: A year after I was born, so yeah.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a year before me, so pretty close.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Came out in December of seventy nine, so it
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: was kind of a Christmas.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Movie December seventh, nineteen seventy nine.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: It had a run time of one hundred and thirty
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: two minutes, with a budget of about forty four million.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Which at the time was the most expensive feature film.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Right right, So a little bit of background. I kind
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: of read up on this a little bit. So this
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: movie was made at a.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Time when originally they were looking to resurrect Star Trek,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: but as a TV show. They were going to do
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: what they called Star Trek Phase two. That was the
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: original plan. But then they saw the success of Star
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Wars and they said, well, we got a Star show.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Let's uh, we want we want Star show. We got
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: a Star show. We want some of that sweet sweet chedddar.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: So it's like trying to get a bunch of people
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: to a classical music concert after they've just seen a
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: really cool rock band concert, right.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Right, right right.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: So so as studio executives think, you know, hey, they
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: both have star in it. It's the same, we'll do that.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: And so they made they made a movie. They made
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: a movie, and it's a movie. They decided they decided
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: to uh because they were already working on Phase two.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: So they had a bunch of scripts written for that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: They took one of their favorites and decided to stretch
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: out a forty five minute script into a two and
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: a half hour movie basically, and and you feel that
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: as you watch.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: It very much. So there were script changes all The
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: last script change was about three and a half hours ago. Okay, yes,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: they they They were making script changes and set design
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: changes forever. In fact, the Vegure set, the main Vedure set,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: was so large that they were filming on one end
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: of it while simultaneously finishing up construction on the other end.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: So if you can imagine that they're filming actors acting
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: in the way actors do with film, in the way
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: cameras do, while people on the other end of the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: stage are pounding nails and everything together. So just crazy.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this this film got mixed reviews at the time.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Most fans were some liked it, some didn't. It was
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: definitely different, for sure. But we did see the whole
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: cast return, So that was neat the.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Let's see because a.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Lot of people didn't want to Some actors didn't want
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: to come back. Didn't want to come back because he
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: was having an issue with Paramount because they were used
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: in his likeness in advertising syndicated star trek Okay, so
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: you know, and uh, just a lot of people didn't
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: want to come back because they figured, you know, this
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: was done. And but Robert Wise and and some other people,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Robert rise was the director, convinced, you know, they were
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: able to convince ultimately that everybody should come back. A
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: few extra including a few extra people like Janis Rand,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the actress that plays Yoman Rand. She was actually not
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: doing so hot. I was dealing with a little bit
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: of addiction and I had some money problems, and William
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Shatner convinced Leonard Nimoy to help him get her a
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: role on the movie.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah, the movie. What would you say was the
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: plot of the film? We we start out with Kirk
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: is no longer in charge of the enterprise. Right, we
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: have we have a different captain the Decker it right, yeah, right,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: And it starts basically with uh, kirk, there there's been this,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: It's well okay.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: So it starts with there's this cloud in space.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: The Klingons went to go check it out, and and
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: they got attacked by the cloud and it instantly killed
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: three Klingon ships. Yes, and because of that, the Federation
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: is freaking out because this cloud is on its way to.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: The Earthling the lead Klingon played by Mark Leonard.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Right, So at the current trajectory, it's a few play
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: but it is coming and they don't know what it is.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: They cannot communicate with it, they cannot stop it. They
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: they need to figure it out. And so they're gonna
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: send the Enterprise because lo and behold, the Enterprise is
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: the only ship in the area.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: And so and because the Enterprises, and.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Because Decker is new to the Enterprise, because the Enterprise
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: is getting refit it's a completely new ship, they decide
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: they're gonna send her in charge of the Enterprise because
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: he has so much experience with the unknown. So he
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: basically bigfoots Captain Decker and he takes this takes the command,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: which is kind of a jerk move in my mind.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: But right, well, they had only been done with their
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: five Here's an interesting tidbit too, This movie takes place.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: This movie was came out ten years after the original
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: series was, right, but the movie takes place four years
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: after we last saw them, So the five year mission
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: had just gotten done, and then they spent eighteen months
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: refitting the Enterprise, and then it's supposed to be just
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: four years later, which is why they they used some
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: lighting techniques and some makeup techniques to make these actors
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: appear about the same age, right, And I even read
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: on IMDb that Kurt that William Shatton was wearing a
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: kirdle and you can actually see the lines of it
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: in some of the scenes. And then for the subsequent movies,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: they decided, okay, let's just make aging part of the story.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Let's just you know, do it in real time, right, right, So,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: so the Enterprise goes out, it's it's trying to investigate
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: the cloud they you know, Kirk very wisely decides, hey,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: we're not gonna do a red alert. We're not going
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: to have shields and photons you know, and torpedoes ready
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: to go. Let's just go and inspect it. Let's look
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: as passive as possible, and that seems to work, and
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: they're investigating this cloud. They find out that the cloud.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Is named Vegure.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Because it starts scanning them, it kills one of their
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: crew members, and then later somehow applicates that crew member
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: like a exact copy.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Is my understanding? U? Yeah, it's mechanism.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: They kept saying that over and over the movie. It's
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: a mechanism. It's a mechanism, yes, god seventy nine mechanism.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The first twelve times I watched this movie, it
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't real clear to me what yeah they were talking about, Like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: what do you mean it's a mechanism, Like, you know,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: if this movie had come out today, they would have explained, oh,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: they took Iliyah's you know, down to the DNA and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: memory and grams and trance and created a robot body
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: to blah blah. They didn't really explain that very clearly.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, and so.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Uh they end up our Vjur ends up creating a
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: perfect mechanism of the of the person that that Vedrire killed.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: And and it was a Dalton.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: It was a Dalton, And so that becomes the the
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: person they can talk to and ask future questions, and
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: so they are able to contact Veature and talk to
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Vegure and it ends up I mean spoilers if you
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: haven't seen this very old film, but it ends up.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Vegure is actually Voyager, one of the space pros we
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: sent out during the Space Race, and it was designed
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: to just accumulate information. And so that's why Vture was
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: going around just looking for information and had somehow fell
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: through what they estimated fell through a black hole, ended
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: up on the other side of the of the galaxy
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: and that meant a it meant a robot planet. So
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Cybertron right and the Transformers fixed it, fixed it up
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: and turned it into.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It to its own creator.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so yeah, Voyager six. Uh. In reality, in
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: real life, there was only two Voyager spacecraft that were
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: launched and the fifties or sixties. One of them, Voyager one,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: is actually the only man made object ever to reach
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: interstellar space.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Oh wow.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's been some other things in the news about
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: Voyager one or two. They've they've i mean, these things
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: are still operating after you know, sixty years.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't make them they used to.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Right, that's pretty it's pretty amazing. It takes an unbelievable
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: amount of time for a message to get sent back,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and they're running on on solar power and uh yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: in the sidebar, people should look up the Voyager one
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: and two missions of the pretty but yeah, this one's
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Voyager six.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: M hm.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, and Decker and Iliah were actually uh they
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: modeled Riker and Troy after them. So right, right, and
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: you know a lot of a lot of stuff, would
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: you know, would you Oh? Yeah, right, So a lot
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: of this, a lot of the things that they were
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: gonna make into the show. You know, this is gonna
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: be Star Trek Phase two, Like you said, a lot
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: of these elements would be carried over to Star Trek
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Connection Arnation, which would come out right eight years later.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: So basically they talk Vegure down and they're able to
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: find the original because you know, Voyager came from NASA
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: and at this point NASA is long dead agency and
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: so it took a while, but Starfleet Command is able
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: to figure out the response codes, because that's what Veger
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: is looking for, is the response code saying hey, you're back.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Homes don't don't kill anything anymore.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: And after three hundred years they happen to have those response.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Codes and somewhere yeah.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so they get the codes vatures like okay,
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: veach your phone.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Home and and and starts downloading all the information and accumulated.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: So we're good to go there. Yeah, I'm here, okay.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: So so yeah, so so that's how it ends that
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: everything's fine. They get all the information. It's explored for Starfleet.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: So now it's just giving them all their information and
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: we're done. Now, I guess like it's yeah, yeah, it's
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: it's definitely. There's a lot a lot of just really
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: long shots for no reason other than we spent a
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: lot of money on these models, so we're going to
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: get our money's worth, right.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: There was an excruciatingly long shot at the beginning of
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the reintroduction of the original refit Enterprise.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: And you know, I understand why they have to do that.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: They have to make it movie worthy. You know, the
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: original Enterprise would have looked ridiculous on the on the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: big screen, and that's why they did the same thing
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: in in in generations. They had to get rid of
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: the enterprise d because it's lines proportions. The models didn't
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: film well on on feature films, right, But you know,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't have really a problem with that. The soundtrack,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the main theme was from They reused that and start
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Trek Connect generation mm hmm. And another thing, buddy of
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: my good friend of mine, Gabe, sent me this something
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't know about. The sound they made for Vedure
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: was made by a blaster beam instrument.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Anybody should You should google that. It's it basically looks
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: like a sixteen foot long guitar, right and very cool,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: very cool. Yeah, that's what made that unique sound.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Majel Barrett also returned as Christine Chappel, so that was cool.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: And yeah, so that's cool.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: And that's one thing I was talking to my wife
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: about is that a cop I don't think that's a
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: common path to go from nurse to doctor.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: It is typically not, as far as I understand.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get why a layperson might think that,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: like you go from you know, like you should in
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: my mind, why why can't you just with more education
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: go from nurse to physician assistant to m D. But
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: they're they're different paths of medicine.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: From what I understand, it's more common to go to
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: physics physicians assistant to doctor.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: That that's more along the lines.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: If you're a nurse and you get more education, you
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: become a higher rated nurse.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I've got cousins. I've got cousins, a lot of cousins
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: that are nurses.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I think you can even get a doctorate in nursing.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I think you can too.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I think it's a different, Like it's
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: still medical related, but it's like a.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Different it's different.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Like the way I've had it explained is like doctors
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: are figuring out what the issues are. Nursings are like
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: figuring out how to alleviate symptoms. Right, right, So it's yeah,
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: it's a little bit different.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: But I could be wrong. If we're wrong, let us
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: know and that will take you.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: The Internet never never lets people.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: An internet is just passive. They never wanted to correct.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: They would never say anything like.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: No, they would never know. The Internet's fine, It's totally fine.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Another thing too, that's brought up in this film that
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: I thought was interesting. It starts out with uh or
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: at least where it introduced to Spock trying to do
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: the colinar where he's purging all of his motions to
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: be fully cling or fully vulcan. And uh so when
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: he returns to the ship, he's kind of a little
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: bit cold at first, he's like dressed in black. He's
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: a little bit Yeah, he's emospach.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Right, emospoch exactly, yeah, exactly.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: He warms up a little bit, but uh eventually, but
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: at first he's just very just does not care. He
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: even mentions too that that he can feel a presence
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: from Vigure and that Vegure is perfect logic, which then
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: you know, is kind of a nod to it's a
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: huge it's a robot.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I was just gonna look at some
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: of the uh uh purses. I'm gonna get this name right.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: She played Aliyah Pursis Cambata. She's an Indian actress from
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: uh Bombay. She was born in nineteen forty eight. Tragically,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: she died in nineteen ninety eight at the age of
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: forty nine. Oh wow, I thought she did a great job.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Not a lot of.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: What was her race again, Dalton's not a lot of
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Daltons that we've seen. We saw one in the Last
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Star Trek movie in section three.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we saw one on on section thirty one, and
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: apparently they make you very amorous.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's I like the word. Yeah. In fact, I
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: watched when I watched the movie last night, I also
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: watched all the deleted scenes, okay, because I you know,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I like you suffer for the people. And there's there's
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: a scene where somebody asked to Kay, somebody asked, Sulu
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: show Aliyah. Who's Sulu's at the helm? And Leah, I
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: guess is it ops? And I think Decker asked him,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I need you to show her the button sequence or whatever,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: and he kind of gets up and stumbles a little
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: bit as if he's Arousal Oh, okay, it's it's a
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: funny scene.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting. That's interesting.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: So yeah, good actress. Uh, you did a good job
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: on that. Yeah.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: What did you think of the movie? Did you enjoy it?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Did you not?
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: You know, it's it's funny because I was talking to
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: my wife last night about this. I'm watching all these
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: movies with a fresh pair of eyes. Yeah, and these
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: these fresh pair of eyes are that of a Star
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Trek podcaster, right right, Okay, So i I'm I'm taking
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: mental notes when Yeah, and I was I wouldn't before.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm also watching special features, some of which I
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: wouldn't watch before. I'm reading notes and things like that
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: going online. Yeah, I have an understanding a little bit
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: more of appreciation for what they were trying to do
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: and some of the constraints they were under, some of
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: the time constraints, and they were being rushed. And it
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: went from a you know, let's revive it to Star
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Trek phase two. Oh no, we want to make turn
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: this into a motion picture. Now we have to rewrate
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: the script and there's can be a lot of chefs
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: in the kitchen and you know. So I although the
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: movie was very very flawed and it was very very
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: slow paced, I really liked the story. I liked the
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: visual effects were I see And that's another thing. I
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: watched the Blu Ray version, which had updated visual effects.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: And so one of the things I was trying to
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: do is differentiate going, Oh I remember the original one.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: It looked like this, and now it looks like that.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: So they didn't like completely redo it. They didn't like
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Star War was it, you know where they added a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: bunch of extra stuff. What they allowed them to do
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: was go ahead and finish what your original plan was.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: So instead of Matt paintings, they made it digital and
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: so it looked a little better. Yeah.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: But I.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: You know, there's not a lot of Star Trek movies
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: that I don't like, right, I wouldn't. This is like
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: fifty to fifty for me.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on the lower tier maybe.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's definitely on the lower tier. But I
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: do appreciate what they were trying to do.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I watching it, I realized I'd never seen this
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: full full film. Oh really clips, Yeah, but I'd never
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: seen the whole thing by itself. Okay, And I watched
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: it without reading anything about it. I didn't know any
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: of the background. But I'm sitting there watching it, and
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: I'm going, this was an episode and they just stretched
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: it out very very clearly that and then I read
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: it that's exactly what it is.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt to me, and I mentioned this to
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: my wife last night, this feels like watching because it's
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: a long movie. This feels like watching three original series
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: episodes and one of them's good.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, and I felt like it was just yeah,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I felt like it was just one episode that they
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: stretched out that that's why, Like, if you took all
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: the long shots out of it, you're gonna drop already
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: half an hour out of this movie. Oh and that's
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: not that's not a joke. Like it is literally that
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: many long shots, right.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: The introduction of the enterprise is famously long. Yeah.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: I think it's like four or five minutes, which is
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of time movie.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: In movie time. That's that's four or five pages of script.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: The character credits are forever.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I got confused because on my Blu ray copy. Yeah,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I put Blu Ray in, I get through the menus,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: and I finally go to push play, and the screen
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: black ends and for a solid two minutes they play
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Star Trekish music. Yeah, and I thought there was something
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: wrong with my video.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Just as out so you experienced this too, Just as
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I was watching on my stream, Yeah, okay, just as
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I was about to like mess with the AV connection,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: my HDMI connection, the video popped out, like the paramount
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: floger came out. I'm like, I don't what the hell
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: was that?
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Guess they were trying to, you know, put us in
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: the mood.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: They were trying to pad the time. Man, I'm looking
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: at the Rotten Tomato scores. Critically, I had a fifty
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: two percent, so half and half liked it. With the
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: with the audience it was a forty two so even
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: less people liked it.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: And these are current you know, obviously, Yeah, it'll still
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: exist in nineteen seventy nine.
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: You know, as a hardcore Star Trek fan, I you know,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: it's it's nice to see Kirk. It's an enterprise and Scottie, right,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: and you know all all these people and familiar elements
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: hearing Starfleet that you know, but it's just really long.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Well, and I think what's very Jarry, especially for you
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: and me, is we just saw the Kelvin films, which
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: is nothing but non stop action, right, and it just
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: moves right.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: And then we're going to ye and amazing visuals.
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of nice scenes though. One that I
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: wanted to mention was the gathering scene at the beginning
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: of the film when he gets he's like assembled a crew. Yes,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: it's the first time in Star Trek history, and I
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: don't think there's been a lot of times since then
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: where it visually it looks like the entire crew like
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty two hundred people are actually in
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: that room, and those are all extras, and most of
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: them are just Star Trek fans.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: In fact, in the DV in the commentary, in the
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: one of the extra scenes, they do an interview with
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: five or six of the people that were actually they're
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: just regular people. They're just that were that were in that. Yeah,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: that extra scene. They just talked about you know, how'd
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you get on? How'd you get on? You know? So yeah, yeah, right,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: right exactly. So I thought that was that was cool
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: because normally when you hear like Captain Jane Waite assemble
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: the crew in cargo Bay one and there's like the
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: senior staff plus like three people.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, right right, So I did like that scene. Yeah,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I like that scene too. I like that there was
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: a couple of people clearly in makeup, you know, to
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: be Aliens.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: That was pretty cool. There's a there was an indoor
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: in there that I saw a few others, you know.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: I the sets were impressive, especially nowadays where a lot
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: of that would just be computer generated or or what
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: they used that the volume where the Holi deck is
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: amount calls it. So it was cool to see physical, giant,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: physical sets yea. You know the the Enterprise too, like
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: those sets too. They'd shut a lot. They've made a
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: lot of big sets for the Enterprise too.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, absolute, and that was very more visual.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Like the the engine room scene where you see the
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: conduit go down like several hundred feet. That set was
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: only forty feet forty feet long. And the way they
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: did that was they just forced perspective. They actually had
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: actors that were progressively shorter actors. Oh wow, down down
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: the set, so it looks like it's several hundred feet.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: It's only a forty foot set.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting. Yeah, that's very cool, you know.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: As far as you know filmmaking, right they had they
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: had a big budget, and some of the actors didn't
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: like the fact that it turned from a special It
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: turned from a care driven show to a special effects movie.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: A lot of the actors were concerned because there wasn't
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of It's not that we need a lot
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: of character development from Kirk because he's you know, he
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: just he just went from commanding the starship to be
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: behind a death for two and a half years. But
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of dialogue in the characters expressing
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: how they felt, expressing what they were going through.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: They were just stating facts and what's going on.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: And when I saw spot Kirk and McCoy sitting in
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: that room together at the beginning of the film, I thought,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: there is no chemistry between these three characters, right, No,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: and that's about Kirk McCoy, that's the big three. But
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: there was just wasn't And that's what they were the
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: actors were complaining about. There just wasn't any chemistry between
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: any of these actors who had chemistry before. And they
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: all said the same thing. They thought it was going
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: to be fun shooting together, you know, like a like
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: a reunion, and it just wasn't. Yeah, it's astonishing the
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Star Trek Star Trek the wrap up gun got made, or.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: That Star Trek has survived this long honestly, right. But yeah,
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: well I think I.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: Think that's pretty much everything we need to say about
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: the film. So we should probably get into listener feedback. Sure, Yeah,
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, because it's it's it's a movie against a cloud,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: and that didn't work for Green Lantern and it didn't
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: work for.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: All right, so let's get to listener feedback.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Listener feedback.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: All right, So I did post in in several social
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: media groups. I made a meme. Do I still have
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: it on here?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I do not?
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Basically, let me see if I can find it real quick.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Over here.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: I put a picture of Spock looking all emo and
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Jared Leto. Yeah, here it is, I will show it
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: right now, both wearing the black robes.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah who wore it?
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Better?
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Because they're both in black robes and sur president left
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: and just you know. In all the Star Trek groups
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: I posted it in, everyone.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: Seemed to go with Spock, so yeah better. Yeah, yeah,
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I I did think it was funny.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Somebody called me out there, like you put Jared Leto's
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: real name and then he put Lemarn's character name.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: That's because we don't care about Let's character.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: I almost wanted to say, if you can tell me
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: what movie that was from? Then you got me and
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: the carrier.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: It's it's from the uh from the Blade Runner remake
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: that he was in or reboot.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Oh I thought you were gonna say, like, wasn't he
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: in a Marvel something?
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: No, he was Joker though, That's right.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: See that's how forgettable he is.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, exactly yeah, we also did get a voicemail,
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: so before I forget, let's let's play that now, because
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: the last time we've forgotten, we played it really late,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: so we'll play that voicemail as well.
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: Hey guys, morning anyways, motion picture, good film. Give it
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: a three point five out of five. Patient issue, uniform,
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: excuse and color. Overall feels like an extended episode of Coos,
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: but pretty much that shot of the enterprise still the
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: best shot and all the series when it comes to ships.
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: Love it. Anyways. He's yeah, there we go.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: You know, he summed up our our entire trek cast
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: episode in one minute.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: Basically basically that's our little uh felt furry friend his return,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: so yeah it yeah. No, and if you want to
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: be turned into yeah, if you want to be turned
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: into an animated creature as well, leave us a voicemail.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Uh that would be at five.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: Seven zero six six one zero zero zero one five
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: seven zero six six one zero zero zero one, and yeah,
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: we'll play your voicemail, will turn will animate your voice
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: and it'll be fun.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: And that's just a Google voicemail. Nobody's gonna answer the phone.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: It's just no, nobody's gonna answer the just if you
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: just want to call and.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Say, hey, hi, I listened to the show. My name
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: is so and so. Don't leave your name.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if somebody does answer. Yeah.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: If somebody does answer, it's like the phone service in
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: john Wick. So you'll be excommunicado.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there is that, yeah exactly.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but all right, we've got Jazzmiz on the line,
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: so let's bring him in. Jazz Biz. How are you man?
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Good morning? Do you watch Star Trek the Motion Picture?
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Now? I watched War in Peace instead?
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Oh geez, another long.
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Have you ever seen Star Trek the Motion Picture?
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, yes, yes, I remember when I discovered that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Ratha Con was the sequel. Yeah, I was like, there's
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: another Star Trek movie out there. I never seen it
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: before because it was never replayed on HBO. Yeah, I
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: saw what I think it was in high school when
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: at first.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: William Shannoner was equally a surprise that Star Trek you
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: got me?
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well he said in an interview.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: After after this movie came out, He's like, well that
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: was it. It was a good run. But Star Trek
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: is dead.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well okay, if Phase two came out in the seventies.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Would Star Trek still be alive?
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, they had when I had back tendency to kill
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: kill franchises. Yeah, although Next Generation didn't kill Star Trek even.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Though everybody no but Ratha Colin, you know, kind of
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: retooling it, rebooting it.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: I think you would be along the lines of Lost
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: in Space. Yeah, like that series, right there was there
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: would have been a reboot movie in the nineties. Probably
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: there would be. There would be reboot attempts in TV,
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: like they did the Lost in Space Netflix show.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which both okay both the movie with Matt LeBlanc, Yeah,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: which has the best line of any sci fi movie
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: of all time, which is I thought was good. And
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: the monkey throws the switch.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just loved it.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Earlier in the movie he's complaining that a monkey could
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: fly the ship and they tell him to go and
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: he just kind of sits back in his chair and
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: the monkey was the stitch, right. I just thought I
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: loved it. I love battle block of that movie. Up
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: until the last third, I thought it was a really
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: really good movie.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I remember that movie is because the movie theater I
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: saw it in had a blown speaker that'll make yeah,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: that made it memorable. Remember that speaker just going off
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: and it's just like, man, this is ruining this movie.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: It was easy on the eyes.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: William Hurt.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Or whatever. Oh yeah, you proud about Gary Oldman.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Gary Oldman.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Fantastic he played the doctor. Yeah right, great actor.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: What did you think of the reboot series? They did?
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: What two? Two seasons?
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Three?
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I watched episode and I was out.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I only watched an episode.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Problem Netflix show was sometimes the pacing is really really slow. Yeah,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: and if the pacing's too long, like they get the hour,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: but they don't have to use the full hour, right, Yeah,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: yeah know, it's like sometimes you know, when you watch start,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: it's only forty two minutes.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: I've heard it's good.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Though, it is good, good, But with pacing, with episodic
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: stuff like that sometimes and they talk about this on
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: the Delta Flyers. When you have let's say you have
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: ten episodes in a season, then you have eight different
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: directors or ten different directors, the pacing can get changed dramatically,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: jarringly because you have one director that likes you know,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: fast in your face, and then the next day the
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: next episode is slow paced, and you know medical and
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: then the next episode is something completely different, So that
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: can be a problem sometimes.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I noticed that with most of these, like
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: these series that sometimes they're really fast and sometimes they're
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: just boring. And then I watch the first two episodes,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: then I'm out, yeah, and never finish it. So yeah,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: And of course, now you know with series like we've
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: got to wait two years to get the second season,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: so or.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: The third season, it's like, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: like almost three years between Strange from the World season
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: two and three.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, two and a half years. Yeah.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it seems so long. And you know,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: because I was thinking, I was like, is this season four?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: And I was like, no, this is season three.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: I read somewhere this will be the longest we've waited
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: for a cliffhanger, because it was I don't even remember.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: The Corner attacking.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, so the Corner attacks, I have no idea.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: They have to rewatched season two before.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're on that planet and the Corner attacking the planet,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: and so like some of them are down on the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: planet or I think it's a it's so, is.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: That what that shot was? I saw them, you know,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: shooting and I saw the Yeah it's flying.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it would be the to the Gliffhanger because
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: like the Enterprises out in space fighting some Gorn, there's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: Gorn on the planet and some of the crews down there,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: so it's split there either way, they're being attacked by
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: the Gord.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you one thing. Season three was definitely
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: not being shot before season two came out.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, remember you had the writer's strike. Yeah, writers,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: and we're.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Still probably back then, we're still probably dealing with a
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: little bit of tail into COVID and mm hmm.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Well that strike just it just set everything back and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: it's really hurt the theaters right now.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Mm hm oh.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: You know, Sam McCain was last week and they showed
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: you know, Superman and all these other shows.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: So, right, what'd you think of the Superman trailer?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: That's pretty cool and I'm ready for it. You know
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, what is the dog
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: doing that? I was like, a dog doesn't know you're hurt.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Also, Crypto, yeah dog will hop on you. Yeah. Crypto
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: in the comic books is a very bad boy. He's
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: is a very mischievous, like he's not like a chill dog.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: He gets into trouble, he choose things up. He's a tradition.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: He's a dog.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: He's a dog and a lot of Another thing that
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: the people had a problem with in the trailer Spoilerer,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: if you haven't seen the New Superman trailer, yeah, is
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: that Superman is being healed from his injuries. He's got
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: fourteen broken bones and several like lung and bladder and stuff,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: and he's and their solution is to get a concentrated
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: beam of sunlight, yellow sunlight, onto him. And Superman's response
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: is he's writhing in pain. And people are like, oh,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: so sunlight now hurts Superman. No, No, he's being fourteen
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: bones are being put back together in his internal organs
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: are regenerated.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be painful for anybody.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: He's probably not used to being in pain, right, right.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably not used to being in pain. And
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: when you have those kind of it's it's the healing
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: process that's painful, not the I mean, if he was normal,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: he could, you know, like go up and licked the sun.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't it wouldn't hurt him. But he's in he's
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: horribly damaged like the sun.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah big, I'm sorry, what was that?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: What was that?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Oh god, oh god.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: No, that's gonna be a meme.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is definitely gonna be a meme.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Wow, Scott, who had the stronger beard? McCoy or you?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, I gotta give it to McCoy. Oh my goodness.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: That that was a that was a strong you know
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: you mentioned beard. That was the one last thing in
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: my notes too. We were talking last night as we
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: were watching the movies, like it a hair piece. I'm like,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: pretty sure everybody's wearing it, Like, I definitely know William
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Shatner is wearing single hair Yeah right, I'm pretty sure
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: every Horror McCoy definitely, Uh, I think Memoy. I think
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: they all had hair pieces, even the Doubt was the
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: only one. In fact, she was a model, She was hot,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: She was a model, and she had uh she had
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Geene Roddenberry take out an insurance policy on her hair
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: in case it didn't grow back, which.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was really really smoking hot and she had.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: That was real naturally.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Often you have to shave it to get it that bald. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: every day, and most people are like, you know, you
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: could have wore a bald cap.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could always tell the bald caps, so that's true.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, you know, guys, it's easier to
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: shave her heads, but girls, you know, their hair means
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: a lot to them.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Did you guys mention the transporter accident on there?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, I forgot about that.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That that That is the most shocking scene member that.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with the script.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Still, it was just like I had to have a
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: way to get rid of the science officer. Yeah, and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: the navigator, Yeah, the doctor that died. No, it was
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: the it was a science officer. And then uh in
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: the script and not in the movie they said it
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: was the navigator. So it was the Vulcan science officer
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: that Kirk met before his meeting with Starfleet.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: It was, you know, how you could have fixed that
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: too and not have to murder characters. Just been like yeah,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: and when I took command of the ship, I told
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: Surf and I want these people said okay, yeah, yeah, but.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: It made it cooler because you're like, we never seen
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: a transporter accident like that.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: It was the most depressing thing I'd ever heard.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Was always like freaked out about him. Well, and and
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: and uh.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Kirk is like, Starfleet, do you have them? There's a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: short but very long pause. Well we got back. Didn't
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: live long. Fortunately. That set chills through my spose.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, So why didn't they just face him
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: and like put him out of his misery?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: Is this the only Star Trek movie where they don't
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: fire a phaser?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: That was another thing I was thinking, that phaser.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when they're talking.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Torpedo, Yes, I'm dim the world. That was given me
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: a headache.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: What cracks me up? As they bring in the director
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: that directed the Sound of Music to direct this sci
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: fi epic here.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Bob, why is director sound of Music? Yeah? I didn't
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: know that. Okay, yeah he's Oscar Winner.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you know, two different kind of genres.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: You almost need somebody that would do you like maybe
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: action or something.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: At the time mm hmm, I was like, yeah, he
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: didn't do this and the music and Citizen Kane he
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: did the editing for that.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean William Friedkin at the time, or
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: bring in uh, well, Lucas is too busy. Spielberg was
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: too busy.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: He also did the still and uh and Drameda Strain
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: so drama.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Man, that's a slow movie, but it's a good you know,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: kind of creepy like epidemic, you know, something's yeah.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: No, But I'm just saying he did have sci fi chops,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: so I get why they brought him in for sure.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he did.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Like and now I understand why the and Dramata Strain
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: was so slow.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: He had a lot of people that had his back,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: you know, Roddenberry and Chattner, and you know, I think
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: he did find as far as that, I don't have
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: any problem with the direction. When we get to Nemesis,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: then I will have some words to say about the
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: director because Stuart Baird or whatever the hell his name is,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Don't correct me, Stuart, piece of crap director.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: I can't stand that guy as a director.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Well he almost killed me Star Trek think about it.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, he killed the next gen movies. He
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: completely like And I'll tell this, you.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Know, I'll tell this story again in a few weeks.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: But I looked into Jonathan Frakes's eyes and I said,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: if you had directed Star Trek eight or Star Trek
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: nine and ten, they would be making Star Trek twenty
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: three right now, and he knew what I was talking about,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: and he looked at me and he just said, from
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: your mouth to God's ears.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah he knew, Yeah, he knew anyway. But anyways, all right.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Other than that, I have nothing to say about the man.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Any other thoughts on Star Trek's motion picture.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Just too long, you know, I didn't need like how
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: long did it take Spock to float to Vigure?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: So about four hours? Yeah, in movie time, I'm sure.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it took nineteen.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: And then there's a director's cut of this which makes
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: it longer. And I remember, you know, they're released a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago in the theater, and I always
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: see movies in the movie theater. Oh, sure, do you
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: want to see the motion picture? And I'm like, I do,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: But I know if she came with me, she wouldn't
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: ever see a Star Trek movie with me. Every again,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, let's set this one out and we'll
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: see Ratha Cohn or The Voyage Home or some of
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: the yeah.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: And Undiscovered Country Star Trek generations saw in the theater.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: And I never saw Undiscovered Country in the theater.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: So they don't replay that one. They always play Ratha
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: con Voyage Home or some of the next Gen movies.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: We never play Undiscovered Country because that's that's probably my
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: favorite Star Trek movie out there.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: I saw a lot of people were watching First Contact
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: yesterday for First Contact Day, so.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, uh, and I'm I'm looking forward to
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: First Contact for a number of reasons. But I did
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: a Star Trek movie rewatch about.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Three years ago, okay, when everybody was bored.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah we were. We weren't living. It was before the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: house was built, and you know, so we were watching
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: them once a week and then we stopped at we
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: watched Generations and then stopped. Within the last three or
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: four years, I've seen all the movies up to First Contact,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: which is my favorite. Next get right, So I'm looking
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this rewatch, And now that we've
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: gotten the motion picture out of the way, it's yeah,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit more. I mean, we still have to
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: do on the final Frontier.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I've seen in the movie probably the most
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: so in the tier so and the.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: One of the Star Trek movie I've probably seen the
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: most is it's probably a toss up between the Undiscovered Country,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: which I saw a lot.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Five and six because it was on HBO like all
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: the time where you played as a kid.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, my buddy, in fact, the same one that gave
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: me the tidbit about the soundtrack. Gabe. He used to
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: come over my house all the time when we were
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: younger and we would watch Discovered Country. We have other options,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: but it was like, yeah, let's just you know, yeah,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: if it ain't if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: So we just watch Undiscovered Country over and over.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Nice, I definitely remember. So I bet Dan will be
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: back next week for the episode.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Oh for for rather gone? Maybe Yeah.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I think he sat this one out and as a picture,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: I'll sleep in.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: He's like, I'm not watching.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: I can't really blame him.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right, well we should have We
• 1:11:42
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• 1:11:44
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• 1:11:51
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